Talkin' Cowboys Break: Mistakes Doom Cowboys Again

be introduced first in this crew? Okay, we're going Kurt Daniels, Absolutely, Chart Daniels. I gotta say this needs to be called the Hanging with the Cowboys Breaker. There you go, that's hang Try considering two the members are here, that's coming in with the Talking Cowboys Break. And we've got Brian brought us over there. Wow, you had a boat tie on today. Yeah, it's I'm running for government office. I'd

appreciate your vote today. Early voting has begun. Voting, early voting, early voting often, I guess I appreciate little TV work today, Bill them and take a page out of your book well and filling in I guess for Mickey Spagnola, who's what the Cowboys doing his TV work today? Because you are a team player, right, I do my best? There, you go do my best. Man. We've gotten Nathaniel Newton in the house as well. Nate, how are you doing a great It's wrong, you'll have a boat tie. We

worked with it every Sunday, so I'm gonna try. Yeah, man, I'm just laughing because you can't believe how that finished in last night. So what you're about to say? Laugh? You get your workout in this morning, No, sir, I had to take White to the airport at three thirty, so okay thirty, Yeah, you had to catch a five o'clock flight, one of them, so you know, I hope to get it in. All right, man, let's go, Bill, let's go, let's go. So you had Jeff Code in

the house for the Pope game yesterday. Yeah, post, Yeah, did nice job. Did nice job, first time out of the box. So good to have him. Okay, okay, so now the elephant in the room. Yeah, what happened in Washington yesterday? All right, let's just start with a takeaway. Go around the horn here? What do you say? And go ahead? Round one one. Quickie little takeaway, They're just not the same team on the road. Yeah, and it's I guess it's execution and communication. They talked about that

coming into this week. Zeke said some things about we gotta communicate better and didn't see much difference. Yeah, I got a couple of things I could say, but I'm I'll focus in on bad day in the office for the offensive line, and I don't want to. I think I'm gonna steal my man's thunder next to me though. But I think overall they did a really poor job

of handling the Redskins front. You know, the power inside with with Pain and then also with Alan I think, and then you mix in what Kerrigan was able to do as a pass rusher. Smith. We talked about him. I know this is not one thing, but it's it's a culmination of things. If you think that Connor Williams played bad, you need to take a look at what happened with While Collins in this game too, And then also you need to take a look at what happened

with Tyrant Smith. And then you also need to take a look at what happened to Joe Looney, and then that'll give you a little idea of why this team's inability to a run the ball, be protect their quarterback is a major factor in what these road woes are happening right now. And Nate, you have a smile on your face. At least a president made it out of life. Yeah. Meeting Zach Martin, Yeah he was. He wasn't as guilty as the others that were charged. For four or five weeks,

all the president's men were charged. Yes, this was not a cover up. For four or five weeks, I've been saying that we are a decent team and uh, you know brought us in. Mickey challenged me with offensive line and I stn't know we should be able to function. Well yesterday they got off some nice passes, but in key moments everything brought us. Say it came true. Yeah everything offensive line, they need fixing, and they need fixing in a hurry. Yeah. This is something that you hang

your hat on. This is something at all coming out of Oxnard. When we were standing there on the field and those beautiful days, we're thinking, okay, this is me the one thing that you can say we're gonna be okay here and it has been it has been a struggle. There's been times, like you said, in the last couple of minutes of that game, you got enough protection. Now there was some leakage and some things that Dak had

to throw over the top of a little bit. But did they do anything different those less towards the end there to block up front? You know what they found these it's it's they when watching the tape of this game at three in the morning last night and it got in uh, the it was very clear that they that they were they were going to try their best, and they talked about communication and the Redskins plan was to try and force them to have to block twist stunts,

to have to block guys on the move. They were going to test Tyrn Smith and and Connor Williams ability to handle stunts that way. And the Redskins felt like that they could rush four and be okay and then play and then and what happened is when they started just rushing four in Dallas and then they were picking up the twist stunts. At the end of the game,

what did you see Prescott was running the ball. He was running to to you know, because there were there were things, there were a couple of times down the field late in that game where he could have made a you know, it had been a guts throw down the middle of the field to Blake Jarwin for a touchdowney Cole Beasley down the middle of the field went

on on those runs, a couple of those runs. But overall though, they're inability to run the football, that's what they that's their identity, right, that's what kind of that's what gets them going. And and the fact that the that the guys I mentioned up front to front seven really for the Redskins. You know, they dominated the Cowboys in that area. There was really no even some of the staple plays that they try. And I'm sorry for going on and on here, guys, but I'm rolling it. Yeah,

I'm just going No, we have an hour show. But there's some of the staples that they have with their their ability to pull guys and to get guys in space, and the Redskins took that away. They took that away with forced play by the safety. The linebackers did a nice job that Redskins were square along that defensive front. This is something I wanted to ask you, guys, and

maybe I'm diving off another topic. No, but did they I always felt for most of that game they were within one score, right, did they give up on the run too quick? I mean I think it was. No, No, it's it's a fair but it's he had fifteen carries and we talk about he needs to play touches. Yeah, it was one of those things. And and my my halftime adjustments. Don't you look down? No, no, no, no, no. He gonna explain to you. But I'm gonna give you the bottom line right ahead. I don't want I feel

like I'm the bottom line. Was preaching here, and I understand what you're saying. It comes to time in the game where you see, okay, you can see creases, but if you go back, you will see on first and second down when they tried to run the ball, there was nothing. Yeah, when when when you have nothing, it's not a give up. When you give up. You see a one yard game here, a three yard game here,

a four yard game here. But when you when you're two inside guys are getting dominated the center and left guard, and they're pushing guys back in the lap and Karragan Smith and Karagan it's setting the edge. I mean they're to the point where they're getting up feel a yard where does Zeke go? Yeah, and then you got changing games and swearing. Dur was committed to trying to come down there and help as much as he could. Yeah, that's that was the thing to me. I'm not looking

down my brother. I love you, man, but it's just I'm trying to go back in the game and see what you saw, my well, just because you always hear about you know, you wear them down five touches, they wore you down exactly. Okay, yeah they were at that point they're done. Well, that's yeah. Because and and it's it's funny because when when Lindsey Draper and I did our a little halftime minute, do we have one of the points I made and it just was really clear to me was that Dallas is going to have to

throw the ball to win this game. They're gonna have to be able to throw. And you know, it came down to when they did have the opportunity to make some plays, they didn't make nearly enough. You know, there wasn't that, there was no consistency there. And when we did, you know, you talk about throwing, but you have to protect. And that was that was really on the offensive line yesterday.

The inability to protect was was huge in that game because they did have some opportunities down the field, not just late, but they had some opportunities. Now. They had some drop balls, you know, and Hearns had to drop ball on a third and twelve I think there was or seven. Yea Thompson had to hit him right between the one and the five. You know, you can't. And they had some unfortunate breaks because Prescott, you know, at the end of the game, I think that things roll

different for them. Maybe they go for the win. If on that opening on that first play of the of when they got the ball at one oh nine, if he hits Beasley on that inside or out and you might remember, I mean you go back to your play by play sheets, it's one o nine and the fourth Dallas gets the ball back after using after you know, stopping them using two timeouts, and now they're on the move. They're going to get this ball and Beasley is open on the slant, and I think Tony Romo actually pointed

that out to everybody last night on the broadcast. But if he hits that and he's looking at Beasley instead, he tries to throw the ball inside to Dalton Schultz and then he gets tipped in the air by Pain. You know, but if he hits Beasley, maybe Dallas's attitude about going to win a football game changes right there, because Beasley he's gonna take the ball. Basically with the Dallas forty four and swearing your the safety's standing on

the Washington forty when this happens. But you know, and I know, Bill, I want to Glizma, but being being your history of what has happened, especially with the Texans, isn't that you're isn't that your make up from this point on that we're going to win the game. Well, he tried to go for it on fourth down and one and swearings your mad to play that caused a fumble. Yeah, but I'm saying, I mean, I give him credit for that.

I'm saying, going forward, Oh, going forward, when when he got when the game got to fifty two seconds and you had the ball on their side of the field, I'm going for I'm gonna try and win this game. I'm gonna try and win this game. And I know if there's people out there and say I brought us, what if he got sacked. What if he had this way he had that. No, you really had Washington on their heels. You were getting protection, you were able to you know, Colby Fabian Moreau gets hurt on the on

the great Beasley play on the sideline. Now they have no nickel corner to play Beasley. I'm wearing them out that way. I'm trying to make a couple place at least anything, I'm trying to get it a little closer. I'm trying to get a little closer for him to have. Okay, if you get closer, and if you have the five yard penalty. Okay, Now it's a thirty seven yard field goal, it's not a fifty two yard field goal. And let's let's take that sequence there, because with no no, this

is this is exactly where we need to go. People. People are talking about that last minute. Yeah, and the offensive philosophy there, right, Okay, fifty two seconds left first and ten of the forty six. That was after the completion to Beasley, right, Okay, completion to Beasley for nine right, So now you got second and one and the clock's ticking away nine seconds, yacking away, all right, Then they had the completion to Beasley. That got reviewed and they

wait to review it. They were about to clock it there right at twelve seconds is when they were clocking it kind of break and well, yeah, yeah, they were clocking it, and so it would have been third in one yeah, rather yeah, they did stop at the clock forum. Yeah, and they needed to look at that to make sure that Beasley had caught it. That was that was critical in that if he had not caught it, then the ball still back at the what the thirty seven yard

line taking a fifty five yard field goal whatever. So anyway, so they had two minutes. It's inside of two minutes, so they officially gonna look at it exactly. Yeah, you had no choice there, but but they did stop it, and that stops the clock. Yes, so now and it's gonna restart when ready, okay at twelve seconds, But you have time at that point to figure out, Okay, what

do we want to do? What's our strategy here with twelve seconds and we were in up going out, I mean, we was like, hey, let's try you're at the thirty one first and ten I was trying to win the game with fifty two seconds together. I was when Beasley went made the catch for nine yards. I'm thinking, Okay, I'm gonna go win this thing now. I'm you know, you got a time out still in your pocket, and so do you clock it there at after that completion? Well,

you're you're at you're at, Yeah, you're you're here. If you're second and one, you could you could have very well clocked in and say and then and then set up some other plays. I just you're third and one, yeah, third and one. See the issue that I have with that, You're at the thirty seven, which is a fifty five yard field goal, right. The issue I have with clock in it there is I'm not sure I'm in field goal range. You could have what if you burned your

time out right there? And I don't want to burn the time out. I want to I want to keep that time out. How about your quarterback having to play in his pocket that he can call it? You just run to play? Yeah? Yeah see that? Yeah, Well That's what I'm saying. You went, They went, They ran a play first intended fifty two seconds, and then they ran the next play at thirty nine seconds? Understand? Am I right about that? Twenty eight twenty eight seconds? Okay? It

was probably close top twenty eight. Okay, I was looking at the clocks. Yeah, I was looking at the clock on the on my on my play on the when I was watching the tape. But but let me tell you this though about that play, about the third, about the second and one played with Beasley across the middle. If he hits Beasley on the move instead of making Beasley have to adjust, that thing is going to go inside.

Now you're really thinking about winning a football game. But Prescott's feet are so bad on the play and his fading to his left. If he could have stood in there and just thrown that football and hit Beasley on the move, and we saw it happen to Carolina, you know, we saw him. He had an opportunity to really make Washington pay, and you could have made it an easier field goal, or you could have probably gone for the

win right there. For two and a half years, we have seen other teams come up in the same situation. We have seen for two and a half years in training camp, our coach go through these same scenarios y'all seen. If it would all this here, our quarterback should have been capable enough to handle that himself. Yeah, each step so all these scenarios, Dak should have been doing it and when it got fitted two seconds, they should have been going to the line, calling another play and running it.

But is that Dak's failure? Is that the coaching staff telling him? That's the coaching staff fail you. So so how do you? I mean, that's been there there, but why they've done it for since Garrett's been here? Just but you know what I said it before I said it on our show. I said it was broadest I've said it everywhere I've been. It comes a point in a quarterback's career where you have to go to your

coach and say, coach, I got it. Yeah, because if this is how it's gonna continue to be, we're being here many more. Mondays, We'll be here doing the same thing over and over. He firmed that the Skins on the wall yet to do that. Though, it don't matter

what do you coach him for. I'm just coach. And when you look at that drive, Skins, when you when you look at that driving at fifty nine seconds, that third and ten play, the completion to Beasley for eighteen, Yeah, that got him down to the Washington forty six forty six the next snap was at fifty two seconds second seven seconds plus you had a time out, okay, and so he handled it well there right, okay, and they

got the and they got the nine yard completion. Now where the time ticked off the clock was between It was between that play and the next play, the second and one play right where you're snapping at twenty eight seconds, right, So there was twenty four seconds it went off the clock. There. See, that's where I'm trying to either get the ball closer or I'm trying to win the game. I mean, you're really your option there was either be ready for a play like what Nate says, or do you clock it right?

And so now you're third and one. Yeah, but but it's two down territory anyway. You know, if it's third and one, I mean you're still okay at third and one, you still have the ability to throw the football. Yeah, oh sure, yeah, and I fourth and one you're gonna run it or yeah you get rid of training camp, okay. So then so then you at twenty eight you snap

it and you complete it to Beasley. And that was the reviewed play right well, six team SEC even if it wasn't reviewed to get in position to clock it. It was that play took sixteen seconds from twenty eight to twelve, which is which is sort of a product of having to use the middle of the field to to matriculate your way down the field. But again, he had the time out. Yeah, I mean, there's no reason for them not to. So now you're at twelve seconds, right, Okay,

Now you've had a timeout because they're reviewing. Right, okay, Now you've got time to figure out what do you want to do. And they opted at that point to run. They said that they were in field goal range. Let's get in the exact position that the kicker wants to be in to kick the field goal. That's I mean,

that was their thinking. Myself, I would have taken a shot with especially with a timeout, a shot to the end zone or ten yards down fields basically again, I mean again again, and as you alluded to earlier, that's the that's the problem when you look at this offensive line and that defensive line. But to that point, take a sack, But to that point you protected in the drive. We've lost two games for that same reason that we're sitting there discussing. Yeah, you're on the road. You gotta

play to win. You can't. You can't foot if with the interception or if for the tip pass. You. Yeah, I wasn't worried about them getting in the end zone. I was worried about them getting ten more yards for a closer field goal. Yeah, and they just didn't see even if they got closer, and then you get the unbelievable penalty that they got called maybe okay, it's five yards back. Fine, he can make a forty yard field goal. You know, best case scenario, you get a touch. Now,

that's what I was staying. Stay aggressive, That's what I was base case scenario. You stay aggressive. I'm telling you, we sit out there in training camp and we watch him stop. These guys old it that he walk over and he talked to him two minutes out of nowhere. Two minutes. You got a minute and ten seconds. Yeah, I got one time out. That's going down the field.

So here's that. Do it try out here, particularly down the field we get in a live game, Yeah, and we lose anywhere from sixteen to thirty five seconds with no place call. That is not right. That's that is not right. I don't disagree with anything you've said there. That that to me is that you know you you manage.

It reminds me so much of what happens when you know, with the games like with Green Bay last year, where you drive the ball eleven plays, you killed so many minutes off the clock, and then you get down the chance to finish the finish the drive. But what do you do? You mess around and you you had to kick a field goal and you give the ball, you know,

you just you, it's everything. The execution is correct, and then you get to a certain point and then you take the two stupid pills with a cup of gatorade and they just seem happy to with the long field goal. Yeah. Well, and again the real I think that the reason that they played at conservative there is they don't trust the offensive line. I think in twenty sixteen with that offensive line there more aggressive in that he trusts the offensive line to go for it on fourth and one in

his own end of the field. But you got, Bill, I understand what you're saying. But I'm not trying to bust on you. I'm just I'm just trying to the thing I can figure is the reason for the philosophy is but he had protection the whole I mean the last two series of the game, the one where Prescott went in, he was getting some protector. There was some leakage here and there, but they were making the score a touchdown. Yeah yeah, yeah, but that was on the

quarterback too. If you go back and what you're dealing okay, well, whether it's the offensive line, I see, that's what they're dealing with with this offense. I see now they're they're in a bad mess right now because you have but as an offensive coordinator, as offensive coordinator, and you in this game and you struggling as offensive line, and you struggling, I understand that, but the game dictates that you stand up at this time and do your job right. And

they were moving, they had them backed up. They was really you ask officive coordinator has to see that and continue to press on. Yeah you know, and I'll I'll keep going back to this. You cannot lose sixteen to thirty five seconds that I'm just standing there. Yeah, you can't people run three plays and that and that's on the quarterback or the coaching. That's on the coaching not believing in the quarterback. The line I'm believing, or the receivers.

But the only chance you have to win. And then and I know if in the States, something obvious, the only chance you have to win is with your offense. Well, and that that's something. I played it perfectly, using your timeouts and stopping them. Matter of fact, Sean Lee made a hell of a play. Yes, you get the ball back and you're thinking, yeah, exactly, you're thinking, okay, okay, here they go. They you know it played out perfectly. I mean, Jake Gruden tried to give you the game.

He tried, He tried to give you an opportunity. You didn't take it. You cannot tell me. And I don't take shots at Jason, but I can't stand to see you set up again and say how smart Dack is. How you believe in in this that the other? If you if you preaching what you believe in, you gotta believe when your back is against the wall at the highest moment, who do you turn the ball over too? Who do you turn the ball over to? Okay, let me let me just as an example, we'll say this

was Aaron Rodgers against the Cowboys last year. Oh no, he threw the end zone twice, but he took over yea with a minute thirteen left, and just to give you an idea, you're about to compare this offense there going No, I'm just comparing drive and how much time is elapsed in between plays, okay, and I want to find out for myself. I had no idea what the answer is here? Yeah, so I just looked it up. Their drive started at the twenty five yard line. The

minute thirteen left. He completed a fourteen yard pass to Davante Adams right. That took four seconds. Yeah, okay, they're at the thirty nine. Okay, I guess he got out of bounds. I'm not no, okay, fourteen yards to Martellis Bennett. Okay. The play started at one o nine. Their next play comes off at forty seven seconds, so it took thirteen

plus night. It took twenty two seconds in between plays there for Rogers to get the next play, to get them lined up and take the next play because Martellis was I remember he was tackled in bounds right, all right, at forty seven incomplete pass, so only two seconds came off. He at forty five seconds, they handed off to Aaron Jones. He went for fifteen yards right and he got out of bounds, So that play only took six seconds. Yea.

So now it's thirty nine seconds left, in complete pass thirty six gains left Aaron Jones left tackle for two yards and they call a time out after that. So now you're at twenty nine seconds field position. They're at the Dallas thirty. Now, okay, Rogers ran for eighteen yards at out of bounds and then got it in twenty one seconds left, and now he's throwing for the end

zone incomplete to Davante Adams and then touchdown. But the point is on the play that got the past completion that was in bounds it And this is a the school of thoughts should be for any team. It basically takes twenty two seconds to get them to get lined up and run another play. That's why teams clock it when they are in that position. Yeah, I think Dallas is I'm gonna say this again, I appreciate the history

Lesson by the way going. I just learned to see for myself how long I think Dallas's attitude about how they would have played this would have been different if at one o nine they would hit Beasley on the pass. I really do, and I put that on I put that on the I put that on the I put that on the quarterback there. Should it be different, though? Should it be different? Yeah, whether he hit him or not,

should it be different? Should I think that? I think that once you know, to me, if you hit that play, it's a chunk play. And now you're thinking, Okay, we maybe we got him on their heels a little bit here. Let's keep going like Nate wants to do. Let's keep going.

But the fact that you you you had an incomplete and then another incomplete and then you had a miracle catch at the For Prescott, I give him credit for the past there because he had Preston Smith was right in his face again Tyrn Smith gets beat on the play and he had to throw it over the top

of them. But I just feel like though their attitude about what they needed to do would have changed from like, hey, let's just go try and tie this thing up right now and may and maybe I know you're going down. I'm I'm believing they were trying to kick the field goal. I'm believing I think, yeah, the personally though, I'm thinking of fifty two seconds, let's go win this thing, all right.

I mean, Jason center after the game. That was but at one or nine, if you if you hit Beasley and he's in Redskin, Terry, I'm now, I'm I'm moving, I'm getting I'm gonna just keep going. I'm gonna try and go win this thing. This team, this team literally got beat at its own game. It rest. The Redskins are doing everything that you hope to have done during this game. They're doing everything exactly you seeing your blueprint workout for the other team. Well, guess what, you know

what they are on today. They got most of the momentum him, I gotta take this back. Okay, you get that momentum back. You got fifty two seconds. I got to win this. Yeah, I'm not going in the overtime and hope and pray that I get back at this position where I'm at now. Yeah, that's what we was hoping for. We're getting this overtime, then we're hoping we can get back on the thirty five. The one thing, the one thing he had to think about though, was

at his defense in the second half. I mean, Peterson was running the ball, but but he's got to think about you know, he's probably thinking, you know, wow, you know they can't make any big plays down the field, can they he's got I mean, he's probably thinking that he's gonna, he's gonna he's gonna get one shot in overtime to win the scene. But he's thinking, yeah, yeah, I mean he's thinking, I know, but it's crazy to think. That's what I'm saying. We have seen your life. Probably

we've seen this play out before. That's if I see it play out one way before, I'm like, you know what, I'm at least gonna give it a shot the other way. You've seen this flair where you thought you was gonna have a chance. I'm gonna put it in my defense defense hands. But your defense is beat up. Now Peterson has hit you from right out one hundred yards that you are beat up. You are tired. Yeah, it sounds like a team that doesn't trust their quarterback. I think

I can kiss you, man. I don't know. I just I don't think you trust the offensive line right now? Kiss you man? Are we taking breaks on this? I think for once, our receivers were better at catching the ball. For once, our quarterback turned it over twice. Yeah, our office of line did not play well. Now that's the recipe of the disaster, my brother, how about we take a break and we come back. I want to ask you what was the most important play in that game?

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the biggest play of the game. You got any thoughts? I got my thought, I'll take the low hanging fruit and say, decks fumble on the end of Okay, you got one. It's a good one. I mean, I've got like five in my head that I'm trying to think of that. You know, I've got one. Go ahead because Rea Curney. It always happened within the first two drives

of a Rod game. Dak Zeke or wide receiver would catch for a big playoff maybe twenty yards of us, and we'll always come up with a penalty or illegal formation of some kind and they would take the ball. From that point that team, the opposite team would take that ball and go down to score seven, and all of a sudden, we're in trouble. On the first drive of the game, Dak went for however many yards he ran,

and there was a hold on Tyrn Smith. Yeah, and it was And that created a third and sixteen and um in complete on a deep ball punt, and then Washington drove fifty two yards in six plays for the first touchdown. Yeah, and I walked into and I told Lindsey said their only offensive touchdown by that time. I say, Lizzy, I say that right there, crushed this. She said, it's early in the game. I said, okay, yeah. And from

that point on, we just took every other drive. We just messed up every other drive, either the sack penalty and even when we scored a touchdown, it was just it was just too much. We don't have the confidence as a team to believe that we can answer. We don't have that confidence because if we did, and I'm telling you, if we did, we would be cognizant of where we ad on the field and not make those mistakes. Is that a part of the communication problems? That our

penalties a result of the communication? No, because a single a single physical that's a physical thing. Because like on the road, we averaged eight penalties for sixty nine yards of game, at home we averaged four for thirty thirty one. That's a physical thing. That's a lack of confidence. Are you playing somebody that's more skilled than you? Yeah, I go back to because I think I think Fate would have dealt them a different hand. If I go back to the Beasley play at one oh nine, because I

think they designed that play. I think they designed that play to get him the ball. And Dad came off it and went back inside, and I Beasley was open. It was gonna be again. It was gonna be a big play, and it was gonna be a play that Beasley was gonna take. He was gonna run about another extra ten yards or so, and then they were gonna Now now you're driving. Now you're they're into the field with a time out and in your pocket and a

little momentium on your side right there. I think it was a big play that that that wasn't wasn't made that you know, should have been made because it was so open. It was so easy for him to make that throw. And he had time. Happened that he came off with somebody flash, No, he had he had time. And now I went back. I went back and looked at it, though, and he's just he's got the time. I mean, he's just he looks at it and then

he just and then he just quickly. I mean it's like he's like glancing then back inside and it's like he panicked on it. And I was I was sitting there going and you guys could go back and watch. I mean, if you want to come up, it up for you, and it's so it's so open that you're going They had to design it. And who is your best player to throw the ball to in that situation, It's Beasley. Throw it to him and let him get

inside of Washington's territory. But I'll tell you another play I thought was huge was the mentioned that Shawn Lee when he ran down Alex Smith when they were trying to kill the clock, Because that gave you a chance and either win it or tie it, and gave me a chance. Yeah, exactly, you Sean Lee. When I mean the coverage they were playing, just straight bass coverage. You know, they didn't have nickel on or anything like that. I mean they but they covered everybody and Alex Smith is

a good run. And I thought, when Alex Smith got near the corner, I'm like, Okay, this is gonna be close because because you got Byron Jones is driving too. But I'm hopeful that Byron Jones would have stuck his head in there and cocked him out of bounce before the sticks. But you never know with a cornerback what's

going to happen. But Shaun Lee running from where he ran to get to that that right there, that play gave you a chance to either tie the game or win the game because it gave you the ball back. And on the previous series, his play on the option, well, and I'll tell you that that was yeah, And you know what, Shaun Lee gets a lot of credit, but it was the DeMarcus Lawrence that made that play. DeMarcus Lawrence is playing his technique and then all of a

sudden he sees what's happened. Shaun Lee just happens to get up the field so fast that it forces Bibs to go back in the inside. But if you when you watch the play, it is it is. It is Lawrence playing down the line and then getting back to the outside quickly and then tripping him up. Because yeah, I I initially last night when I wrote my Scout's notebook, I thought it was Shaun Lee on the play the way I saw it on the TV. But then you go back, yeah, then you go back and watch the game.

It was DeMarcus Lawrence's ability to the way he played, and he had a hell of a game when it came. There's not many people, there's not many people that that the Cowboys run defense that were that were really good in that game. You know, I was expecting to be a little bit better than they were. But Adrian Pierson him credit. But the Marcus Lawrence there were four or five players where he was just they did not block him.

They trying them down the goal line. They try, and they try and get the ball the outside and he and he spins, I mean he feels, he feels Vernon Davis is going to block him, and he spins out of it, and Davids is lungdeon and he ends up right there on the ball. He led the team and combined tackles are just kind of rare. Yeah, he was. He he came to play yesterday. He really really came to play yesterday. We talk about we wasting, we wasting

time on on these on offensive young stars. We wasting time. Boy, We gotta we got a beast at that love defensive. We wasting time. Man. He does not get near enough credit for playing the run as well as he does. He is. He is a rare player when it comes to run, running, rushing the passer and playing in the run and my play important play, uh plays off. It's

the play right before yours. And it has to do basically with the same thing that you're talking about, which is the Connor Williams hold on the third on the third down play. It was the play just probably third seventeen on the third and third twelve, third and fourteen fourteen. But if but on that play that has a great throw to Beasley, they convert on third down. Okay, now they got a chance there, Yeah, and they can get going.

And it was but it was a product of you know, getting beat on a play, and you know, you it's a young guy, that right, Jonathan Allen, I mean, I mean, okay. The thing with me was the when you watch that play and they could talk about this because he's lived this that you know, when you get a guy and you're on there, you're bodying him, you know, just ride him with your body. You know, if you're going down on the nine times out of ten, if you're riding a guy, then getting too and yeah, you got your

hands on them, they're gonna call holding. But if you find a way to kind of ride them like you're riding a wave to the ground, officials don't. Now I'll tell you something though, These officials miss some calls. I'm not just saying there was a it was on one of the on one of Dak's sacks. They clearly Ryan I mean, I think it was Karrigan had hit. It

was Karrigan. He had his hand like he punches Collins in the face with his hand and but he keeps his hand and he's driving Colins back to the quarterback. And then he gets the sack on Dak. And you're thinking, Okay, that's a that's a play in the in the in space that normally officials see, you know, and I'll sell you another play. I'm here. I'm kind of bitching about

the officiating. But on the play that you were talking about, the one where Dak fumbles the ball, Thompson's on the outside, they're running double, they're running out and ups on both sides, and Dak's looking that way. Josh Norman hits. I mean contact physically cont tack blocks Thompson on the play fifteen yards down the field. Nine times out of ten that is going to be an illegal contact call. It's gonna

be five yards. You're gonna be automatic first down. But then maybe you don't have the sack and the fumble and all that stuff. You know, you get the ball, you get another first down. But you talk about officiating the way it affects the game. That's a call that's

made every every weekend in the National Football League. If you got a corner that's playing off and he kind of Norman's beat, Normans beat on the play and he collisions Thompson on the out and that affects the way that the you know, and now you get a sack fumble and it's a it's a big play, but a non call hands the face non call, uh, legal contact non call. You know, those are tough. Those are tough penalties that they're made, calls every day in the National

FOOTBA League that they weren't made in this game. You you just you have the play. Yeah, I understand playing yet, Yeah, and I'm not, but don't don't call it one thing going against what you're saying, bro. But what what what what amazes me is we I just looked at on the film where the sack on that You just have to play, man, You just have to play, and you have to believe it's your offense, is your offensive line, it's your quarterback. And I'm talking about the head coach

in the staff. You have to believe that you gonna that that that some of these players are going to get get done. And and it didn't get done because your players were either not efficient enough, are not aware of what the situation was. And I'm going back to he was not good enough, and I'm talking about Connor Williams because they had a guy, but I think a guy for the center and a guy over him. So if you turn the protection, he stayed in the right gap. That guy got up the field in the right gap.

That was the B gap. He and Connor knowing that if he had to sit on this guy, he didn't even it right. Yeah, you got a wide three. You have to sit out there. You have to take that chance that he's gonna get back inside and you can get him back with your powerhand. He did not even take the step experience. Yeah, sit back a little bit, father, and yeah, he gonna bull rush you, but yeah, he's gonna have to run over me. And if he has to run over me, and as long as I don't

grab him and I'm just flaming, I'm good. Yeah. But when you guys go back and watch the games, you're not noting I'm not trying to defend Connor Williams. Lyle Collins was worse. Lile Collins was. Yeah, but that played there is what bills say changed. No, no, and I understand, but I understand if you want to, if if everybody wants to say get rid of Connor Williams or replace Connors, right, you better go find out what happened at right tackle

that game yesterday, because that he got he got. I've never seen Lyle Collins get thrown around like he did yesterday. And he was hurried care again and then and then he was also. Yeah, they were they were working, they were working guys over. But he in the run game. I have never seen him play with the lie. I could balance that. This is his fourth year, the second year playing right tackle. Okay, but you know what, that's

a coaches thing. You You don't A kid cannot be twenty six, twenty seven years old, reaching the prime of his life and all of a sudden he regressing. This kid is actually regressing. Yeah, there's no question. So somebody but something something either in his head technically unsound. Well, he played, okay, I tell you this, he played well in the game last week against a pretty good defensive front. But then he turns around in this game. His techniques bad,

his feet are bad, his hands are bad. And it wasn't just like one time on the run blocking stuff. There's three or four times you go, man, that's just awful. And then you look at okay in the patty and the holding penalty. You know, like I was we were laughing last night, or like we were at the Houston Livestock rodeo, like we were bulldogging and stuff like that. You know, I mean, that's it's not you can't you

can't play like that. Also credit at the Redskins personnel people for making the decision here in the last couple of drafts to draft those Alabama gains. They were terrible against the run, thirty second in the league last year. No one also what they are facing twice a year in this division against what perceived as boy offensive line and an Eagles offensive line that's one of the best, and they knew that they had to improve their defensive line. And Jonathan Allen fell to them. The guy had a

bad shoulder. He was probably a top five player, probably the best defensive tackle on the board, and they get him at seventeen. Sometimes sometimes the draft gods smile on you. Some days they smile on you. Do we need to take another break or not? I think we're kid. I think we just probably need to keep talking, keep talking. Keep Okay, we're gonna keeping, but just keep going. Okay, you talked about guys making plays and on that. I

just have to ask on the on the sack fumble. Yeah, there's a shot of Gallup looked like he's breaking open. Is there just too much chaos in front of dak to me? When you people were saying, oh, you know, and I say, I I don't think he saw people say, No,

his eyes were over there. No. If you look at the if you look at the end zone copy that I get to the coach's tape, you could see that he was clearly looking to his right to Thompson and then he kind of comes back and then he goes back out to think he's gonna get it out the other way. But yeah, I mean, if it's to me, I'm the problem he runs into. If it's Herns out there running, I'm thinking Herns is not going to be

fast enough to run the out and up. I did complete a touchdown to Gallop though early in the game where he just outran the guy and he was he was he was clear, he was clear on the plane. If I'm throwing the ball down the field, I'm throwing it to Gallop every single time on the on the vertical run. See what happened. What happened, But he didn't see him. He came back to him too late, and Kerrigan had a run on him. Yeah, I just thought

maybe started. Yeah, see Kerrigan. What happened there was Karagan was being blocked by the tight end. So Kerrigan wasn't really being handled by an offensive tackle or a guard or anything. He was rushing, he was blocking being blocked by the tight end. And all of a sudden, when Dak started to hold the ball, well, that gave Kerrigan the opportunity. And then we've talked about with this with Ryan Kerrigan forever. He never quits, he never stops on

the play. He's gonna give you effort. And that's what he did. He just he Dak saw him flash and he tried to spin it and it was you know, he couldn't spin away. But and I could be totally wrong. That's fine. They twisted, right, they twisted. He saw that. Yeah. See people thought that he saw that. He felt that, and then when he finally got his eyes up to look at his receiver, he didn't see it because he saw the flash. Saw the flash. That's exactly he went off.

His body and mind went off, and instead of him clamping that ball and just maybe taking the two, he tried to, you know, throw this guy, throw the ball away. Zee. I give credit what credit is due. He don't get no credit there because he felt that twist, yeah, right in front of him. And then when he saw that flash. Everybody thinking he's looking at and receive. He looking at what's coming in him. He's looking at the rush. Yeah. Eye level was down. Yeah. Okay, this is a tweet

from Edward or here in the last few minutes. The controversial penalty on Cowboys LP Latticar was the result of Redskins special teams coach Ben Katwika I don't know how to pronounce his last name, noticing what he considered illegal movement of ball during preparation and bringing to Jay Gruden's attention. Gruden alerted game officials and encouraged them to watch for it. W oh I told him, but it was a constant chatter. I told I say, man, all night, they've been chattering,

but the all night. But the official who's responsible for the safety of the center. I mean, you're not allowed to line up and chuck the center. And all that is the is the side judge. The guy's last name is Pain. He is the one that did not make the call, and he is directly looking at the center. And I'll tell you one thing. There was a time when they kick another I don't know if there's a

field goal, extra point. LP takes the ball and moves it from one side, picks it up, moves it from one side all the way to the middle to get it set. I mean literally picks the ball up. And I went back and watched every field goal and extra point and I said, okay, is there a pattern here? And I'll tell you what. Sundberg the center for them. He takes the ball, he moves it up, he moves it back, and then he snaps it every time. So these these these centers have things that they go, mannerisms

that they go to. It's like a picture getting ready to pitch the baseball. But they but LP literally took his hand, picked up the ball to his left and moved it back to the center, then moved it up and then yeah, and the way and what drew what drew Alan and those guys off sides was LP puts the ball up on the nose and then when he's getting ready to put his guide hand on there, he tilts the ball down and that's what got them off side.

You know what got a offside? The coaches on the side, they were they remember you had Okay, there was a timeout right to review the Beasley play, right, Okay, I guarantee they're talking about because they knew that the Cowboys were getting in position to kick a field right and it was gonna be a long range field goal, right, Okay. I guarantee you that those officials, those coaches told the redskin players jump. See that's where I I because they don't.

They don't get the call. They don't You're right if they don't. If they don't jump, that the call because like I said, yeah, go ahead. And the other thing that it was the inside guy jumped first, right, and then the guy that came across right he jumped because the inside guy he didn't do it because of the of the ball. I thought maybe that Redman whose plays tackle flinched. I thought the initial okay, Redman flinched, and

that drew. He's the backup guy, I mean for us he I thought maybe he fled and drew because LP. The only thing LP did was he puts the ball in the nose and then when he's ready to snap it, he tilts it down. He just takes it. Yeah. Well, no, it's just his hands. It looked like to me it was one of those things. If they would have called Redmond, I would have said, that's close. I don't think any of that matter. I think what happened the officials ahead of time to watch for it, and then they coach

their play. This the whole game. They chirped this the whole game. If this situation arises, it's like you've been setting a corner up the old game and now here it is. Yeah, but there's they don't get the call unless they jump. You're right, because there was. Seriously, there was one time that lats are with his right hand, the ball is outside, he's in his stance. He picks up the ball and moves it to the middle. I mean literally picks it up, moves it to the middle

and sets it down. This is something LP is. He's a fidgety guy. But I watched I watched their center too, and he has been for fifteen years. Yeah, I mean yeah, Now there's times if this is a fourth and one, you're trying to draw them to get you know, you know that's a smart play. I mean, I've seen centers squeeze the ball. I've seen centers move it in their hand, you know, trying to get somebody to jump. But but the thing that bothered me was the official who's responsible

for the center did not make the call. It was the judge and it was actually the line judge on I believe it was on the Cowboys side of the field, which which the side of the field that the guy the players jump from right right. And I promise you they got a guy full guys to sitting over there with doing the same show that we did, saying well,

how smart were it is? But it's something that LP always if you can, I promise you we go back and watch every snap he's ever had he picks the ball, and go back and watch all centers around the National Football League. Again. I went back and watched Sunburg. The center for them sounds like we got out coached well. And then the other the other key on that is to have more than one player jump yeah, because that

leads the official to believe that something to see. That's why I thought Redmond I thought, that's why I thought Redmond might have moved a little bit. And that's where I was kind of thinking, oh cheez, that's what happened there. But there was no ins LP did not need the Cowboys did not need the extra five yards at that point. But they have been nice that he was good from forty seven earlier in the game. See that was saying his range if fifty two gets a little more, does

get a little dicey. And that's why we were kind of talking about do you get you run one more played, you run a play to try and get him seven or eight more yards. And then if it is and if there is a penalty, okay, it's a forty two yard field goal now. But my point on that is, if the risk was not worth the reward of the five yards, if LP was trying to douce, yeah, I

don't think was trying to do anything. I don't think, but let's say, like in the official's mind, he was Yeah, okay, manipulating the rules exactly, and but he there was the risk was too great for him to do that. I didn't see anything different than any matter of fact. A matter of fact, again, there was one he had that where he literally picked up the ball was outside his when he was he picks up the ball and moves it physically picks it up and moves it to get

into position. But Edward just text right tweet that they they had this already put in play, right they so so thank you for clearing that up. Because great speculation by you guys. But it's right there. It's right there, and they did it at the right time. Is it like right there? It's like it's like measuring the pine tar bat right, Yeah, it's right there. Too much curve. If I'm a coach and I get a call like that in a game, I'm gonna take credit for it.

Yeah it's right there, me and you on the same page. But I take it a step further and saying why do you practice all these different scenarios? Sure, I'm with it, and get in the game with Yeah, Yeah, I'm with you. You can't Why practice games are two? I think this guy, that's another another three another three or point or less lost for this guy right when he likes sixteen and fifteen and now he's had two, he's had a win

seventeen two losses. So yeah, he's right at seventeen seventeen three point games head coach three points or less, he's seventeen seventeen. I want to believe it is record. I just gotta that's kind of like that's him, all right, Rosy, next time we go to the Rover, Yeah, seventeen seventeen, that's what he is again. And this this situation, Philadelphia, be your next time. Okay, when we go in a row in this situation arises us full guys gonna be thinking,

what go win it? Okay, I would always I'm always for they go win it. I'm gonna go win it, guy. There's a lot of people that are thinking that same thing. I'm gonna go win it. Guy. Well, the coach went forth on fourth and one? He did? I give him credit for that. Yeah, he did, first or second quarters. I'll tell you what if Dak Prescott wasn't really upright when he goes. If Dak Prescott's kind of hunchdown and we went watched it, he goes into that line really upright, mean,

they got some serious push on that right side. It would it wouldn't matter because he would have gone on for twenty yards on his own. Rady would have gotten called back on that drive anyway. All right, are we done with this edition of Hanging with the Talking Cowboys? Right? Yeah? Absolutely, Well that was fun. That was a quick hour. Yeah, thank you. So we will be back on a regular schedule tomorrow tomorrow, okay, and the team arriving back later

today from Washington, DC and good Field trip today. All right, we'll talk at you again tomorrow. See you guys,