Talkin' Cowboys Break: Cowboys Acquire Amari Cooper

Nick Eatman, Flyboy, David Hellman and thank you. Appreciate that jacket over there, Maverick, Yeah, Iceman, Mickey Spagnola over there as well. Brian brought us goose can't help. Oh, I love it, I love it. I love it. Football death always right. I love you, Brian. You back upstairs breaking down tape of miss six lighter or something like that. I meant Merlin beat Merlin. Yeah you stink. Ye. That's well. This guy doesn't stick, right, No, he doesn't stack. Okay,

let's let's break it all. You said potential number one. I was like, hed better be, better be for a first round pick, right, yeah, this guy can play, play a little bit. Yeah no, And I went through all the games of twenty eighteen, he got a concussion in London, took a hit right across the middle and it knocked

him into the protocol. And then I went back and watched every single game he played in twenty seventeen, the whole season, every ball thrown to him, and people are going to talk about this as a guy that is inconsistent with his hands. What I found looking at this player is he is very capable of making a circus catch. I mean that is something he can absolutely do. He can he can go anywhere you want on the field.

The drops that I found that heat the problems with his drops, there were a couple of them in the in the red zone where there was a contested ball with a defender. I felt like I had a really good position on him. And in there where a couple others where he was on the move where he was like going to try and run before he had caught the football. And he is a guy that will take the ball north and south in a hurry. So when they throw it to him, he's going to play on

the move. Like I said, they use him in a lot of different levels. He was making plays on all the different levels, and so you know that's something that you have to think about. Okay, is he just gonna line up play as the X. No. I think you could play this guy a bunch of different spots. But this guy is clearly a number one wide receiver when you watch him play. He has got those traits and he's got the ability and he's got the ability to

make plays down the field. I mean you, if you want to watch a game of him playing last year, watch the Kansas City game, you know, when they were playing in the game in Oakland, and he was outstanding in that game. So he's a guy, big body guy as far as you know, a guy getting down the field. The targets to him, stuff like that, he can body up, he can go get it, he can high point. There's

a lot of really positive things about this guy. So will defensive coordinators think the same thing and pay attention to him to draw some they will basically coverage off the line of scrimmage. They will. And that's why I said potential number one, because you got to have that right. No, No, that you don't make this trade if you don't think this guy's a number one wide receiver and he is a number one wide receiver. He's got he has got that, he's got those those traits. The needle to double him.

I think that you I think that they will have to find ways to dub them because the questions will be, though, can you get him the football enough? That's gonna be the questions you have and you're gonna are you gonna make people to get respected? You have to get the football to him. But that's but he is capable of running every single route you want. He's capable of playing in the red zone. He has got that ability. When he gets down in the goal line and he and

he's got to finish, he will finish. That's the type of player he is. And I think that's where I'm at Brian thinking about this is there's there's a lot to break down with the trade itself and the player and the needed receiver. But y'all agreement with me that just this entire thing, all levels of it, is about Dak Prescott. Well, I don't know. I mean, I thought you were going to go somewhere else. Yeah, I thought was too. Where did you think I was gonna? That

sounds great? Number One? How good does he have to be to be sitting here in April twenty eighth for the first round or whatever, and be like this sucks, Like how good does he have to be to kind of justify that. That's my only issue And I'm letting history get to me here because I was all on board where Joey Galloway didn't work out. I was pretty on board with Roy Williams didn't work out. And I know everything is different. I just think, God, that is too much, too much for a guy that we think

is pretty good. I just wonder if that if if he's gonna really work here with Dak and all the other issues. I like, the two one just seems high for me. That's a good point, by the way, to bring up this is the third time this century the Cowboys have traded at least a first round pick for a wide receiver mid season. Joey Galloway in two thousand

two first round picks. This cost less than that, and Roy Williams, I believe Mick it was a first, a third, and swapping late round picks six and then they got a seventh back. Yeah, but yeah, history is playing into maybe the reaction to this thing. It's like, Okay, it's gonna be worth it this time, and I think I'm already I think I'm already making peace with that, to be honest with you, because Marie Cooper's twenty four years old. Yeah,

he's six months older than Calvin Ridley. Yeah, so he is a young guy who's already seasoned in the NFL. He's under contract for at least a season and a half. Now nine games season, twenty five games, you get him twenty five games. Average that out, you're gonna pay him a minute, so like seven million, it comes out. Well, his base salary for this year was four it was four eleven. Just a reset for guys people that don't know about this guy, who don't know a ton about him.

Number four overall pick in twenty fifteen by the Raiders out of Alabama. Decorated college career. As Dave said, he's on his fourth season and you can lock in his you will walk in his fifth year option, so you have him for the rest of this year and next at least, which Yeah, fifty year options guaranteed, Yes, guaranteed, So they pick up to guarantee. Yeah, you can read negotiated, but they're looking at it as a two year deal for fourteen point four million, cheaper than Sammy Watkins. Yeah,

which is right to go. If you think about paying it, paying a wide receiver. They were trying to dish out big money. Yeah, I suppose, Yeah, yeah, I think I'm at peace with the price. I mean, if you're gonna do it, okay, And Amari Cooper is probably better than whatever you're going to find in the draft. I mean, yeah, just go, just go through the history of the NFL draft. Just go through the last three years of the NFL draft. Think about the receivers that have been selecting this draft.

I see, you've got a nicely I do. How about Kevin White, DeVante Parker, Nelson Aguilar, Rashard Perriman, Corey Coleman, Will Fuller, Josh Dotson, Lakon Treadwell, Corey Davis, Mike Williams, John Ross. It's an indictment on college football. It's an indictment on people trying to pick wide receivers that aren't worth a crap. Well, they look at what they did in college and look at numbers, and they're not real routes in college that's run into spots and stopping and

catching the ball. This guy, I mean, I can say we were on treadwell. I mean that that's probably one of the guys on the draft show that maybe the one of the one guy that we were probably the most wrong about. Yeah, I would agree with that and in with this case, assuming that this year is not an indication of him falling off the cliff. Yeah, he's an accomplished receiver where you got to go through the growing pains. If you draft a wide receiver, catch ready

may go, put him out there and play. That's what they question. The only question I have. I don't have a problem with giving up the pick. I really don't know, absolutely not, absolutely not. I'm trying to do all I can to help my quarterback. But but the quarterback helped himself. That's the biggest question we have to ask. And that that's kind of where I'm at. That's where I was going a minute ago. Is this this whole thing is about the future of Dak. Press got him for what

two more years? Well, you could probably a fourth year in a franchise year if you have to. This trade changes my line of thinking a lot with what was what was trending with Dac. I mean even as recently as like three weeks ago, I said on our show. I was like, well, play this thing out. This is like an audition and if if Dak's not good enough, you can always draft a guy. Well you can't do that in twenty nineteen. Now, yeah, unless you draft Drew Brees and the second Sure, if you get lucky as

hell and strike gold. Probably not yet lucky with the fourth round guy, didn't you they're not? Yeah, which, and now half the fan base is trying to get rid of him, like he's not this, Yeah, he's not the unilateral let's not worry about the fan base. Well you get my point. Yes, I understand you're not. You are not completely sold that you have the answer at quarterback. But the calcure are going in and like there's I mean, Dak is the guy for the time being, is what

this trade tells. So does this guy help Dak? Absolutely? He does. You know you know about that. I was looking at a receiver. I was looking at the things I like about him? Is what you said, North, going North. He's got nineteen touchdowns and eleven of them or thirty yards or more. He's got an eighty nine yard or this is just last year, and he's got a sixty eight in that game. You're talking about Kansas City forty

five and a thirty eight. He's got eleven over thirty yards and Dez Bryant seventy seventy five touchdowns, the Cowboys all time leader, and he played eight years, nine years, eight years. He had nineteen at those touchdowns, nineteen touchdowns of thirty or more. Different player, different receiver, But just saying this is the type of guy that's different. Eleven in three years and some change here and nineteen for Dez Bryant. So is he gonna go up and make

plays like him? I don't know, but all I'm I'm saying is that he is a different type of guy, and I think that's the kind of guy that that Dak needs. We saw it yesterday, you know they needed, still need to do it more. In my opinion, Is he gonna help Dak or is he gonna help Zeke? Maybe both? Is he gonna help Michael Gallup cann he helped the offensive line? Yeah, there you go. That's a

bigger question. Well that's for another show. I know we're talking about this, and we've said this about no matter who's playing receiver, all the pieces have to work for you to get the downfield passing game going, and this does start up front, and the protection upfront was not good in the game yesterday, overall until really the last couple series. I felt like, anyone what I want to know? And he's looked at the table and I'll just ask you.

When when the ball's in the air and there's four hands at least right there is, they're all gonna go in his two hands. I mean that he's gonna go get it. They don't have anyone that does, No, they don't. They don't have anybody that make it, can make contested catches consistent problem again yesterday. Absolutely well, the only guy they can make catches outside his catch radius is Beasley.

That's true. Everybody else gotta be right. He's amazing. That third down catch he made to keep the drive going. That was incredible. They didn't believe he caught it. No, hell no, just to me. I again, wait, wait, which one one off the ground? Yeah? Oh no, I'm talking. I'm the one off the ground. And I know we're talking Cooper here, but the one off the ground. I was sitting next to Rob and they're like, they're reviewing it,

and I'm like, I hope it's incomplete. This will help the two Cowboys if this is incomplete because they only got six yards and it took twenty four seconds to do it. I will give me my six yards back and I'll take twenty four seconds. I can get better than that. And and Beasley's over there like I caught it. I caught it, and I'm like, dangn it would be nice if he didn't, but he didn't, and I think

that kind of hurt him. Actually, Okay, here's a question that kind of got brought up a second ago, and I saw it on Twitter as we were promoting this podcast. Is he better? Is it? Marii Cooper better than Dez Bryant is right now in his career at least what Dez was last year. Absolutely, it sounds like he runs better. Yeah, he's His ability to get down the field is a lot different than dezs. But I mean, you're talking about guys that are violent players though with the ball in

their hand, and he'll go get this. This got a high point. The problem makes say people say, oh, it's twelve percent drops, he's got bad hands. Said seriously, I watched every single pass thrown to him the last two years, and there was probably one or two where I go, oh, that's just a flat drop. That's just a bad flat drop. And then I'm looking at other ones and I'm going, Okay, well, he's trying to run here. He's trying to He's trying to take the ball and get up the field as

quickly as he can. You know, And if you watch the Tennessee game opening day of last year, he had that there was a couple in the red zone he probably should have come down with as far as you know contested balls. But I this this guy right here, he is not anything. He is. He is so much different than anything they have right now. You know, you can compare him to Dez and I just did it earlier and y'all did too. But is it more than that?

This is what I don't know that, Maky. You always say this about free agents and you and you're not wrong, but you say, why are they available? Why is he out there? Is it? Is it more than this? You know the desk could still play. We know that. And there's a reason why the count guy open hates his teams. He hates his team. He's unloading players, he hates his team.

That's right. He losing up for Vegan. Yeah, he's he's well, no, he just he he knows he has to build his team and he doesn't and he's not He's not like this guy John Gruden is doing it his way. Yeah, he hates his team and like three first round picks, Yeah he's got two, he's got two. Why doesn't like this guy? He did? His attitude is he would rather have his type of receiver and this guy evidently is not his type receiver. He hates his team, he really does.

Here's so the numbers have fallen off this last year and a half. Yeah, big time first offenses. Okay, that's why I went back and watch saw two thousand and seventeen, and I guarantee if you go back and watch two thousand and sixteen and before that, I mean they found ways to get him the foot ball. Well for two years, I mean, a quarterback has not been nearly as consistent as he's needed to be. Doesn't that concern, like what you're saying right now, doesn't that concern? No? Why it doesn't.

It sounds like you're talking about the Cowboys, what the quarterback? Yes, it's sound like I guess that's my point And that's why I'm bringing it back to Dak Prescott again because my thing is, and you can't possibly hope to answer this. It's a season long type of question. But is he gonna make this offense noticeably better? That's really I do think he will? You think that? I do think tomorrow? Yes, yes,

as soon as he yes, I do. They have no listen to yourselves talk No, I guys, watch what they put out there at wide receiver. I hear you. I hear what you're saying. I know you are. You just gonna sit there and it just you want some numbers on that real quick now, I know you have the stat nick. They're twenty ninth and passing offense right now, one hundred and eighty three yards per game. Cole is their top target, thirty three catches, three hundred fifty yards,

a couple of touchdowns. Then their leading receivers are Zeke and tight end Jeff Swam and the combination of Alan Hearns, Deonte Thompson, Tavon Austin who's injured right now, who they brought in. Is this committee combined thirty two catches, three nine yards and three touchdowns. And again, I mean the snaps are split up, but this committee, it hasn't worked out consistently so far. Beasley has been the key guy and Gallup is coming on. But yeah, they need some

juice in this thing. I think it's pretty obvious, right And the only reason I asked about it coming is he gonna help this team right now? Is the fact that you know, I think we all know that this is if Jason Garrett, if they don't get in the playoffs. In my opinion, I mean, I think everyone agrees that he's not gonna be the coach next year, and I

think he might have to do better than that. So to be taken right, it is and they needed that win and they're not out of it because as I said yesterday, I don't think Washing is gonna run away with anything. But I just wonder. You see guys that don't go to training camp and it's gonna take a little bit of time to adjust. Roy Williams got here, it took a little bit of time to adjust. I just wonder is he ready to come in and will he help right now to make a difference where can

this team make the playoffs or not? I meancause if Jason Garrett, he's got to be excited about that. They're they're they're going all in. They're not going with the future. I mean, they're trying to help him right now to get this team in the playoffs. Like I said, I'm at peace with the price. I really am. Especially, I mean, he's he's He's the best receiver on this team right now,

there's no question about it. But maybe I'm maybe I'm scarred, maybe I have PTSD from twenty seventeen, but we had a pretty high opinion of Dez going into that season. Like all this talk that he had dropped off and lost it was not the narrative going into that season. He was pretty good in twenty sixteen. He was a part of that. All this he's approaching thirty. Yeah, you just you just traded for a twenty four year old player.

I hope you're right, and I think Cooper is better than Dez was, But I hope that we're not about to watch seven games of them trying to get this guy the ball and they just can't quite click. If they can't get him, if they can't get him the ball, then this is on the front office. This is clearly on the front office, because they obviously think that he can come in and help them win football games on a division. It needs to be taken. I think it's unfair to compare him to Roy Williams. By the way

Roy was done, He couldn't that's white. Detroit unloaded him. The Cowboys were just silly enough to pay that pay. And then they immediately it's on the front office. They immediately handed him a forty five million dollars deal too. And each was the other part he Roy couldn't run and separate, not at all that point when they got it. No, this guy is a different player. This guy is a

much different player than what than anything they've got. And unfortunately for Galloway and I know I made a joke last week about no more first round pick trades for wide receivers. But Galloway got hurt the first game and the Mickey we spruit it up. But the first year, the first year, yeah, price, now we don't about it. And you didn't give him a quarterback the second year. Yeah, I mean it was we was killed to have Dak

Prescott trying to throw him the ball. It was, yeah, it was a trade for for eight man to throw the ball to him, and it didn't like maybe the same maybe maybe to your point of what you just said. If it's a trade for Dak and it doesn't work out, well, that's that's again on the front off well and then giving giving Dak every opportunity here to kind of see what he can do. May you need better receivers, but

then we're gonna give you that. That's my main takeaway is you know, like, even like I said a month ago, I don't think I was completely sold that Dak would be definitely the starter next year. And maybe that was naive on my point, but there's no doubt in my mind now, like they're they're gonna give him the weapons,

they're gonna see how he can do. Uh, they got rid of their first round pick, so they can't draft a quarterback now and yeah, and then you talk about franchise tag in twenty nineteen, Like this trade just makes me feel like Dak Prescott's I'm gonna take my chances with this guy in Gallop and Beasley. Yeah, I mean, and at least at least it's not at least the hell of a lot better on paper yeah today than it did yesterday. And not only any paper, but that

piece of paper right there. Yeah, that piece of paper right there has changed my opinion a little bit. Well, I'm not trying to influence anybody, but I'm just saying that if you if you want it, if you want to sit down and say, okay, they're gonna draft, even if they go eight and eight and you're picking what fourteenth?

Is that? Right? And then I know, I know our buddy Stephen Thomas out there listening probably right now, and he's gonna fight me on Well, it's four it's it's years of control, Brian, it's cheaper money, and it is with your team. It is it is. Yeah, and I understand that you could draft a guy in six months that you'll have control over for five years. Well, and then I go, oh, let me handle let me hand in that card for did you go back another year?

Is it even worse? No, it's actually really good because it's Odell Beckham and DeAndre Hopkins and those types of Okay, but so you can find that, you can find those. But I'm just saying, if you look at the last three years sure of a draft, yeah, No, I mean the list for itself. But let's not pretend like you can't find great but if you go back four years,

like you're saying, don't you have Cooper in there too? Yeah? Absolutely, Yeah, that's kind of you know, it's like, yeah, they're they're there, and he's one of them. He's been pretty I just feel like that now you know, you you take this chance now for this. I just I mean, I'm thinking about I'm thinking about the division. I'm thinking about how to try and help the quarterback. And again, guys, maybe it'll all come down to the quarterback can't help himself.

But you're right and that this is a bold move. Halfway through the season, they're three and four. It's not a good record if Philly makes this move, or New England or whatever. But I mean, and and it's you know, let's see, let's see how it works. Let's see again if Philly makes this move, everybody's oh, God, brought us Dallas can't do anything like this? Well I can't they do? You know? Did you make this move? And now everybody's scared? And wasn't there a was there a we're flying back

as this is breaking and we're doing our homework on it. Uh? Is there a report the Philly was in on this second round? Pick. Okay, so you know you're keeping him away from them too. By the way, they're three and four, Redskins are four and two. But there's the Cowboys still have six division games to control their own destiny. To help this offense anyway you can for game four more,

you're right out of six, Yes, thank you. It worries and divisions there after watching Alex Smith yesterday, you think none doing this? Oh, Adrian Peterson played pretty damn yes he did, and they scored thirteen points. Nick doesn't buy it. He ran for ninety nine person. It was Alex. He ran for ninety nine years. That's the hope right there, is that Alex Smith stays in there and keeps doing

dumb things. And and I understand he won the game, congratulations, but he you know, he it was Christmas and he had a present for you going here. I'm gonna run out of bounds. Yeah, and that Jake Grun tried to give you one two at the end. Yeah. Um, But you know, I I'm gonna be what's it, who's from fire Round? Joe? Joe? Can I be Joe from firemund real? Yes? Well, if you're gonna give a first round pick for Maray Cooper, why wouldn't you give a third round pick or a

fourth round pick for Josh Gordon? Drugs? Painting the you know what drugs are we right, he's down to his last strike in the NFL and he basically you give it, you give it one or two for him, and it's and he's and he's one. You know, I'm just saying, just a fifth round Trump, just trump the Patriots. I mean, but it's hard to beat that. Drugs. Drugs. There were reports before this got done that Marie Cooper didn't love football.

That was like, there's people saying that this the guy doesn't like football, and well they did it, so I don't buy that. Yeah, there are guys with gold jackets that didn't like football. I wouldn't. I think I would, oh absolutely, And it wouldn't stop anything. It wouldn't stop me at all. I'd rather have h Sanders'd rather have Josh Gordon for a fifth I think do this deal for a one. I think the Cowboys will well, I think there's a ring of honor player for the Cowboys

that didn't love football. Oh, who's that? I just said? A ring of honor player? Oh? A player? Yeah, okay in the Ring of honor. Maybe not there yet, maybe he'll be, maybe he's there. I don't know the implier um implications. I mean, I'm still trying to wrap my head around this thing, and I don't I don't dislike it, and I'm, like I said, I'm at peace with the price, but I'm skeptical that it's gonna make this. You just want to continue to watch what's going on out there? No,

but is anybody tired of that yet? I'm super tired, serious, because you know what you guys tired? Let me let me tired, very tired of it. Yeah. I basically what I'm saying is I'm not convinced that this move in the middle of the season. I'm trying. I'm doing whatever I can not to be tired. And is it because it's the middle of the season, Meaning what, well, you just said this move in the middle of the season. Are you worry that it's gonna take them too long? Yeah?

There's get going and here's where you get going. And like the problems with this offense have looked so widespread and bad that like I don't really buy this, just like we're just one receiver away from and just looking great. I don't know if if you could have traded a one for something else, what would you've gone and got. I don't want to trade a one. If you could have traded a one for something else, what could you've got?

This is probably the best possible scenario. Patrick Peterson, you know, you mentioned that on the plane, Mick, and I was like, does Patrick Peterson make this team? You don't. What I wonder is if you called around to other teams and they were they were every thing we weren't going to

do that, we wouldn't have done. No. But I'm just saying, if you were going just to say we're gonna trade a number one, we're gonna trade a first round pick for a number one receiver or any receiver first round pick, if you called everybody in the league, I mean, where Marie Cooper be the best one? I mean, would there be some guys that are like, we'll get rid of one,

trade Digs or I mean somebody I don't know. I wonder, but twenty four years old, with with that kind of a body and that kind of you know, skins on the wall, already nineteen career touchdowns, I believe. I mean there's some things to like. And and this isn't just about the next ten games. This is about or nine games. It's not about that maybe ten. I'm putting them in the playoffs. Um I think that that. Yeah, No, I mean they have a chance. Like you said, they gotta

win this division, and they could still do that. But I wonder if this is thing like, let's come here, let's figure this thing out. But he's gonna be twenty five next year. Who knows what the staff is gonna look like, quarterback, all that stuff. We got a young, polished receiver that we need to tweak a little bit and give him some help. By the way, in the interim, there are reports he suffered a concussion Week six, seat Seattle in London. I watched it. He doesn't even know.

Let's going. Raiders were off last week. Okay, so William Dynamite drop in there we go. H so, so gotta pass a physical to get Yeah, well they're off this week gets double by. I'm just saying, still saying, there's a chance to get your pick back because they haven't turned They hadn't turned the trade in yet. They turned it in before three o'clock. They have agreed to this trade.

Yes they have. I think fans are that are listening now should be a little bit more excited about it, because here's a guy that not only put some stats out there receivers that are out there, but he loves the draft and loves picks and in first round pick and is willing to say, you know what, this guy will help your team. He helps him right now. He'll probably be better than anybody you're taking next year. I don't think it's I don't think it's a stretch to say.

And like I said, we haven't gotten into the draft study, but I got a show Thursday. We do. I gotta get to work on that. But this is not this is not This star leaden receiver class like Amari Cooper is absolutely better than whatever you're going to get in this draft. And he's not that much older, so you

will to play. In the front office, we're looking at that saying, okay, what are our options in a you make a deal like this when you own the team and you're the general manager, Well, sure, absolutely, because you know there's guys that you know and it's right or wrong, but that's the type you know, that's a bold deal. To do. And there's not many general managers who would make this trade just because of job security. But I think he's trying to make his football team better. I

think he's like us. I think he's like me. I think he's tired of watching what's going on at wide receiver. He can't knock him. You can't knock him for trying. But I guess, and really I guess. My main point is and again to say it for the fifth time, like I don't know that this is this is gonna matter. You're worried about Dak getting him the ball, just Dak has to play better, Dak has to be better. Is so what happened to him? Okay, yeah, I've been the

first twenty four games were a mirage. I mean they certainly look like it right now. Okay, but what's changed that defaultive coordinators all summer long just figure it out? And in my opinion that I said, all right, we are gonna make him beat us on the outside. We're gonna take away easy throws for him, and we you know, when we want to kind of clamp down the middle, we're gonna we're gonna just make him to go make a play and Dez was making some but not many.

He maybe he needs more. He needs a guy that teams are really scared of. So why didn't they do that after his rookie year because the first eight games last year they were scoring twenty eight points a game and he was carrying this team on his back. This offensive line is they can't hang their hat on the start quarterbacks. They can't hang their hat on this offensive line right now. They gave up four sacks, nine quarterback hits and four penalties yesterday, especially on the road, and

you're quarterback. There was the best quarterback on the field. Yeah, I don't think the quarterback lost that game. I think the fact of the matter is, no, he does he see everything. No he doesn't. That's not his game. But the fact is that we have thought this offensive line is elade or the best or one of the top five wars. It's not even close. And you know the other thing too, is whether Dez was on this team

this year or not. Whoever you got a receiver, we've seen it when Zeke isn't Zeke and he's not productive and he's got fifteen carries for thirty four yards in this game. They're not gonna win. They just don't. They have to get something out of Zeke and it's not all on him if he's getting hit in the backfield most time. How about the last two road games he's got thirty five carries for eighty eight yards. That's not even three yards a carry. Oh, it's it's a quarterback,

far be it? Yes? Yes, actually, yes, that there's there's part of that too, the fact that he can't throw him out. He can't throw him out Jacksonville take Place. Maybe they suck. I don't know. Maybe they say they were the frauds emphatically. You might be right. I think that they like they're stubborn, that they played their game and and they didn't expect these guys to beat them, and it kind of snowball there. I mean, their defense played pretty well, but I mean they were they were cocky.

They said, you know, we're gonna put Tyler Patman on. You know that took a half to figure that out. That wouldn't work. What I don't understand is why we see this back and forth stuff with the like the play calling, with the stuff that really works, and like Dak you know, he's running and he's throwing deep against the Giants and then Seattle. We just don't see it.

And then they come back against Jacksonville. He's running more than he's ever had, and they throw some deep balls, even if they don't complete all of them, they throw some, and then come back this weekend. We don't really see it except for the Gallop touchdown. But I mean, I don't think Washington played, you know, like read option every time and took that away. I just don't think that they're they're playing Dak the way that he should be playing.

Washington kick their ass up front. Up front, there was a lot I mean, there was a lot of square bodies up there and a lot of guys that didn't ever got turned and they never could get the point of attack. That cleaned up Maybe that that and they played and they played a lot of five man front. Yeah, that the linebackers were on the line of scrimmage. They were not going to let you capture that edge. His team needs a lot of things and they need a

tight end too. Oh god, that's we talked about in the pregame show yesterday, that that's what those guys are all. How bad is he hurt by the way he got a bruise, a very bad bruise knee. It's swelled up and he got hit on the knee. So it didn't sound like it was a It didn't sound like a ligament when I talked to him in the locker room. Yeah. Uh, he walked. Just just by seeing him walking around, he was on the trip. Yeah, Cowboys took that trip today.

There are some to the finished my point. I was sounding kind of big National Museum of African American History and culture. They took that scheduled trip. Great trip, by the way. We were happy to be part of that. Um. Yeah, so that's another question. I didn't let me throw that something else about that too before people are trying to be them up for that. A lot of that came

from the players as well. I mean, this is something that you know, with the bye week that they were coming into this game and going to Washington, and this was an idea by some of the players, and I think the Cowboys you know that they saw they thought it was a good idea as well. Uh, this is a sport of life in football. Yeah, I really I haven't seen even a smidge of like negative feedback about it.

I'll give you one. I couldn't believe it. Some guy with his home video camera goes up to Sean Lee and asked him about the trip, what was the museum like? And then he asked him, do you think that Jerry Jones did this to side up to Donald Trump? Boy? And I looked at him, and Sean just kept walking. He didn't answer. I go, you're shameless, and he just kind of walked. So I'm guessing he was working for one of those people. Did spend TNZ or something? You

just gave him twenty seconds airtime? Well he doesn't, he doesn't know. He didn't look smart enough to listen to us fair enough, all right. I just thought it was cheap. Well yeah, okay, sure because the other people, if you saw, everybody was kind of like they were, hey, it's the cowboys. Some lady was out there yelling so and she was I don't know if she was foreign or what, but she's, oh, it's America's team, and she kept going on. And I thought it was funny, right, But they kind of appreciated

seeing them there, appreciate if you win some more. Except for them. We got off the bus and the Redskins fans that were across the Street shirt. Yeah, bragging rights for a week. Yeah, they do. They'll see him again later this year. But they got Amari Cooper now in the fold to help himunt. We think it's an agreed upon trade. Un physicals, any physicals. It's right, it's accurate, it is Yet they do, especially coming especially coming off a concussion. Yeah, any final thoughts, I know we're gonna

hit this probably in twelve hours or so. Okay with what they just did, Yeah, I am I you know, could they have not done it for a second? Clearly not. I don't think so. I don't think so. I think that you had to find a way to you know, if if Philadelphia was involved, and you know other teams, and I know the guy, the guy who reported about Philadelphia involved, he's got a connection there. So they would

rather get their second than the Cowboys second. They would rather he would rather have They would rather probably have your your first or second, for sure. But I mean when they read the Cowboys are sitting there at three and four and no one thinks much of them, and they're the defending Super Bowl champs, wouldn't you take the Cowboys second? If everything was equal, They're they're they're thinking

that their their second might be worse than yours. They should have probably taken Philadelphia's, but you offered the war. Maybe they gave him a second and something else, or also that's how you leverage people. He said, well, we already got this offer for a second from Philly, So no,

I mean he's got to think happened. Yeah, absolutely well and maybe yeah, and maybe the fact that it was a division rival that has pulled off trades that has helped them in the past, maybe that spurred the Cowboys to another level of action, like we're not no, we're not gonna let this be a gy E two point zero. Maybe I purely well, just know that that trade went down in the museum and David and I kind of saw it. I think that was I mean, you never

actually think that that's what's happening. I mean I've seen Stephen Jones and Will McClay field a million phone calls. Yeah, I mean, well fielding a call and it's like, well,

it could be no any phone call. I think Mick is right, like literally like seventy five percent of the team is off dueing one thing, and like Mickey hung behind because he had a one oh five three hit and I'm reading, you know, some plaques about something or other, and all of a sudden, I just see Stephen Jones over in the corner on looking taking a very serious phone call. I was like, what are the tour guides will shoot us? You gotta catch up, you gotta catch up.

And it's like okay. Then I cut up, and then I was a little too loud, and Jerry looked at me and he goes, oh, okay, Yeah, he didn't tell Stephen to cop quiet. At the end of the day, I'm I'm fine with this. I get what you're saying. You gotta you gotta do something, because what's we'll do what I'm trying. I'm you know what, I'm trying to win this division. I really am. I'm trying to figure out some way if I'm the head coach and you know, and Nick's talking about potential change and all that, and

I've talked about potential change this. You're not alone on that raft. But I think that if you know, if I'm the coach, I'm thinking, Okay, how can I make this thing better? Can I get a player? You know? And if it doesn't work out for him, then that's not his problem anymore. He's just got to figure out how to take Amari Cooper and make him work in this offense. Did you watch the games from this year?

I watched this year's all the games he's played this year until the time he got concussed, and then I watched every single catch he made and every ball throwed him in twenty seventeen. So what was the deal? I mean, he only had like twenty catches. Yeah, they but the things that were to me, the Raiders with John in their offense, they're not that quarterback. There's something not right with that quarterback right now throwing the ball. I mean, he clearly was missing him on some throws, and I'm

thinking he's open, dude, hit him. You know. But if you go back and look at you go back and look at what he did in seventeen, different offensive coordinator and all that, it's it's remarkable how much difference the guy. Look, how different stats look a lot like the Cowboys, you know, like the just their team. I mean one catch, ten catches, yeah, two catches, eight catches, one catch. I mean, it's just kind of back and forth. It's his first two years

he had over a thousand yards receiving. He's Crow Bowl guy. He hired in fifty five catches. He is so capable in the history of the NFL have done that. And eleven two thousand yards in your first two years, that was your stat. Yeah, we're waiting. Yeah, I mean that's pretty good. I mean the nine nine players ever that that have started to yet now now it's like, well,

does he still have it? I mean because that on Hearn has had a thousand yard year as well a couple of years ago, and he doesn't look like that, especially when you're running out of bounds on this guy right here though, the way he runs routes, the way he gets down the field, him going to get the football.

And I want to give the Fun Office credit to for, you know, saying, you know what, we tried something, it didn't work, it's not working, and we're gonna do something about it while we still have a chance to win this division. It could be easy for them to say, because they made those decisions, Yeah, sit on your hands and go eight, Nate and see how that goes, and we'll we'll just keep working with it. Yeah, And they've decided this it's not working as presently constructed. They got

tired of looking at it. One more from Joe from Fliermund, Why don't he just get does he wouldn't cost you anything? Yeah, I've heard that. I think there was a concern that he he might not be able to play anymore, well five years younger as well. It's kind of well, I don't know, but no one else has signed him, That's true. Mickey's kind of implier too. Every now and then, you know,

it just kind of sort of the top. So if this guy comes in day one, top three receivers, gallop, gallop, and let's go bat and it shouldn't be anybody else unless you know what sangre Law. I don't care what you're saying. Coach those three up and let's go play ball. Let's figure out what's going on with this offensive line to run the footballbody a little bit better, please, somebody's probably going to be out the door now. I mean they got to make a roster move to do that. Um,

but you didn't. Your guy got a good maybe put on arm fore arm? Yeah, yeah, possibly, But I mean, do you need seven receivers first? Not? No, I mean Bright Bryce Butler makes sense, but Thompson, Thompson or Butler would be my vote, but you know I would. Hey, by the way, they're not throwing with the ball to Bryce except for one time a game, you know, so sort of if you count the Hill, just kind of move on from him, then all right we're ready to

move on. Yeah, all right, tomorrow's another day. Yeah. Check out Bryan Scotting report on Amari Cooper. I gotta get this up going right on Monday night Football to night. Ye yeah, Monday. Uh, Giants and Falcons enjoy that, Mickey. I will rather hit there's no baseball to watch. Hit my thumb with a hammer, then watch that. Oh my god. Atlanta can't stop anybody, can't they No, they give up twenty eight points and like walking out for the national anthem.

They can't stop anybody's people play fans. But but then again they're offense. You can't stop their offense. That'll be fun. Yeah, but it's the Giants. Yeah, let them train wreck. You know what. I love you, Brian, you know what. To win this division, that need the Giants to actually a little bit. I mean you need them to kind of put a fight every now and again. Maybe they could beat Washington. Were they the ones that got beat by the sixty three yards field goal. No, it was giants

who who lost. Oh that's right, it wasn't a lot of giants. Yeah, so they're they're like one game away. If they win tonight, they'd be giants have really only they've only gotten steamrolled by again. You could could call the Dallas game of steam rolling and then quit Philly kick there. But but they've been in most of their games. Jacksonville to get their head out of their rearing London next week, Yeah, some Eagles, Yeah, Eagles there. It's that

point of the year. It's division scoreboard watching Cowboys make a big move in principle to get a guy that can help him ount down the stretch. So the Eagles. The Cowboys have the Eagles after they come back from London. After Tennessee. Oh, after Tennessee. Okay, Tennessee's off this week too, by the way, Well that's fair, okay, all right, let me wrap it up, big golf, all right, let's wrap it up. I'd like fair stuff, all right. Cool. Thank

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