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be a lot of fun. Derek is having fun on his phone over there. Dave looks ready to go with his counting report for the La Rams offense, which we'll get into later in the show. I wanted to start right off the bat with the guys that were not at practice, did not do anything, and the question marks are still around Xavier Sophilo, Cole Beastley, Blake Jarwin and even Austin. What do you guys know about these four guys?

Great so far, it's a great question question marks about David Irvy No, No, the list is not then, yeah, no question marks not today, yesterday. He was kind of okay, go ahead. The list has grown a little bit. Um Cole Beasley, Noah Brown, Blake Jarwin, Malik Collins all missed practice, David irn Well Brown, Davi Sua Philo was out there. I wonder how much he's going to participate though none of these he dinged his ankle. All of these, well, the only one I don't know the answer to is

Noah Brown. Every I mean, uh, Cole dinged his ankle, Um Suaphilo obviously with the ankle, Malik with the ankle. Jarwin all all ankles, a lot of ankles. So Jarwin, did jar get hurt in the game, Yes, very near the end. You know what you can blame um Courtney. Yeah, she want to tell everybody who Courtney is. Yeah, she's

in the one of our social social media. Um. She's down the field and I think like she was trying to move out of the way and Jarwin caught a pass and he had to like, you know, kind of his foot kind of role. He was trying to get out of the way. So he was trying to a boy hitting her and that's how I rolled his ankle. I think. So it happened on the sideline and not blaming her it's a pretty strong accusation. That is a pretty strong accusation. Now what is that anyways, happened on

the sideline, but he played most of the game. I mean yeah, but then again, I'm tired of doing that because I've done that before he finished the game. He'll be fine seven days. That didn't always happen. Out of these who who's still the most concerning one as far as the injury itself, So, Philo, until you get him back, I would think, is still a concern that he can't he come back? You know, I think, yeah, well from I mean Malie Collins kind of need him, you do.

Against one of the best running backs in football, So that's something to watch. Again. You know, it's it's Wednesday in Cowboys world, so it's early, but that's definitely something to watch. He was not out there. I'll say this about Maleak. It was a game earlier this year that Zack Martin left and had to come back and play, but Collins did it as well. It was at Philadelphia. Maybe it seemed like it was one of those road games where the guy had to leave and he came

back and finished the game. Collins has done that too. He has shown the ability to play with injury, so I feel okay that he will come back. Beasley's kind of concerning too, because he didn't look one hundred percent running around those It's a reoccurring one, and you've got Herns definitely out, So they're already they're already down receivers, which they signed. Noah Brown is now part of the active roster. Alan Hearns is uninjured reserve. And they say

that again, who's a part of the actor? I said, Noah Brown did, Yeah, I'm sorry, I met Lanceloor is on the active roster. Um they signed a kid I already forgot his name. They signed a receiver to the practice squad in addition, um something Bradley Michael Michael Bradley. He's a soccer player. I mean, the good thing there is that you still got Cooper, he still got gallop. Like those are your two I think most important wide receipts. Not even close. Brandon Riley. I'm sorry he's on the

practice squad now. But but the part you have to remember is that those guys aren't necessary the guys you use in the slot. So you really are counting on Beasley Tavon to be the guys that can can do that for you, and and and even Hearns. Herns was a guy that you could you could play in the spot as well. So Lance, Lance, I know, next thing I want to hear that. I mean, we'll see Lance. Yeah, that's low key, low key, a pretty big deal. I

mean Beasley, you know, he finished the game. But the next point, especially with what you got to do as a slot receiver, bomb ankle is not a great injury for that guy. So he makes his money off the fact that he's quick and he can get in and out of breaks quickly. It it's hard to do that when your ankle's not right. As Lance scored a touchdown this year, not in the regular season, preseason where um la San Francisco, San Francisco, where already play his best ball.

Really nice catch too, brand Camp. Yeah, it's yes, Hallie. If that's the crazy thing though, like we talked about yesterday, some of those guys that are good at practice and it just kind of doesn't reflect into the season the regular season. He's one of those guys who has been really good with Dad during the off season and just doesn't really translate. If Beasley can't go Lancenor's got the next best skill set for what you want him to do.

Probably what guy? Yeah, all right, well, Derek's face kind of says a lot right there, but I'm not gonna say it. Can't should have done it? Close up on here,

let's go. All right, it's week nineteen. Well, a lot of talks going back to call here we go, A lot of talks about Dak Prescott and this has been an ongoing theme um for him this year, questions surrounding him, And I just wanted to bring up this whole comment that Troy Aikman had on the ticket saying in regards to Dak, he said he texted Dak and saying first postseason when of many, and then he went on to saying that he really believes that Dak is going to

be the Cowboys quarterback for a long time and he's going to find himself winning a lot of football games in January going forward. So I wanted to get your thoughts and reactions to what this type of common means coming from someone like in January. Yes, yes, okay, um wow, My eyebrows perked up when I read that. Yes, absolutely good.

When I read that, though, I mean I kind of sometimes I take those things in January this year, Yeah, I kind of, I kind of kind I kind of take those things as that's just what giants came with December thirtieth dance. Sorry, right first your bubble. Yeah, No, I think I kind of take those things as that's what you say as the Cowboys former quarterback. I would expect Roger would say the same thing again, especially as long as once you see the writing on the wall

that this is a quarterback. Whether he's great or good doesn't matter. If he's in that range, then you kind of give him that pad on the back dead. Okay, the mantle is now yours, young man, go do with it what you I mean, we heard the same thing once Romo kind of got into that that area where then they started being like, Okay, Romo, this is your thing. We think you're gonna be good. Go be great. Right. So I just that doesn't surprise me. I surprise me

at all. I disagree because I think two different things. One, all the respect in the world for Rogers Stabach, but I mean, like he's he's I think of him as like the fatherly figure of these current Cowboys players. Yeah, he's he's not in the media, he's retired, he's he's so far making money. He's printing money, printing money. Yeah,

good for him. Yeah, he's but he's so far removed that he's like, I don't really have a stake in this other than I want the Cowboys to do well and I support I mean, he was very supportive of Romo. Obviously he's going to be supportive of Dak. And then there's Michael Irvin, another guy who's like, he's just he's the team cheerleader. He's on like he's just he's Cowboys. He's the team cheerleader. And that's good too, and I

like it. Troy Aikman is somewhere in the middle, Like he obviously has he's has a stake in the Cowboys. He's invested in their success. He's also a prominent member of the media. And if you've ever listened to him, I think he takes his impartiality and his objectivity and be and doing his homework seriously. So I think that means more coming from him, because I don't think he would more than it would from some of those other guys. Yeah, but I do think that he still is at it

at the core. And again this was on local radio. I think here in Dallas, right, I think he still does though you know he he has I think he still has a vested interest in this team doing well. And I think he sees a riding on the wall that this is a good quarterback. Who knows if he'll be great, but he's a good quarterback and so but that's kind of my point is saying that he's gonna win many games in Jailanuary means he's going to be great. You don't win a lot of playoff games if you're

not great. And so for Troy to say it, I mean, do you call what do you call the guy that came right before Troy great? He won a whole bunch in January? What Danny White? Oh I thought I said before. I'm saying in this franchise, winning in January doesn't always mean great. It means you're pretty good. If you're not winning in late January early February, that's when you become great in this franchise as a quarterback, you're splitting hairs

many wins in January. No, I don't want, definitely don't want to go down to Danny White debate Danny White wasn't great. Danny White was exactly that's exactly right. But it's a different era now. I mean Danny White was hand you know, handed over a pretty good football team with no salary cap and just go right that that he didn't elevate the franchise. So I don't ever say

that he was better than Romo. Ever, Um, I agree with Dave, you know, and I was going to kind of mention that part about them aman where he falls in the stallback and Michael Irvan and you know, Dion and him, and where everybody just goes in different spots. Irvan's on a different stratosphere. But but I agree. I mean, when aateman says that, you know, aateman knows he's going to be the quarterback for the future here. And when you're doing that, you're gonna win some games. What's many?

I don't I don't know, but I mean you can win. He can win two more, I guess in January this year. I mean, I'll say this if you know what it would have raised my brows for you to say it's something like I think this guy's guy would have takes to win a Super Bowl. Now, that raises by brows. I'm like, okay, but when you say he's gonna win mini games in January, I don't know what that really means.

Like just remember still just hearing it from ache Man, it's like some type of okay reassurance in you or like it makes you feel a tiny bit better, does a tiny bit okay, But just remember where we are on not everyone is even convinced right now that he is the quarterback of the future. So who wouldn't be convinced at this point? Check your mentions? No, no, no no, no, no, I'm talking about makes calls. You know. I'm saying who

wouldn't be convinced because he's basically said as much. So it doesn't matter not We're not talking about like the reality situation. We're talking about in people's minds. Yeah. So I'm just saying that there's a lot of people not

convinced daksh should be the quarterback of this team. And Troy Aikman, the guy that has won more Super Bowls than any other quarterback in franchise history, is saying that he believes not only will he be the quarterback for a long time, but he's going to be successful in winning games in the playoffs. I think that's something to be said for that. Also, which we're this is semantics and I don't care, but having that a headline on our on our website, we're talking if you're going to

win many games in January. You can only play three in January at a given time. So if you're winning many, that's over years though. Okay, even still in that first round. If you're winning, if you've got more than like five career wins in January, it means you've probably played in a couple of NFC title games and a Super Bowl or two. Yeah, I mean Aaron Rodgers on Aaron Rodgers only has nine playoff wins. Honestly on a I think we're just kind of like, I'm not saying that it's

not relevant that he says it. My whole point is just it didn't shock me, Like to me, you're usually the optimist one. No, I'm saying over here, No, I

think y'all, miss, I'm not saying that that. I'm just saying it doesn't shock me that he says that, And I don't necessarily get any solace out of him saying it, because again, I would expect that what I've seen so far, I would expect that Dak Prescott's going to be the number one the quarterback here for a long time and number two that he's going to have some success in January.

How much success, that's the golden question. Because if he's winning Wildcard weekend, you know, five times, four times in his career, but never gets beyond that, that's gonna be a failure in this franchise. So you know, and I thought it was a firm statement when he didn't need to say something that firm that's all. It's a failure. Yeah. No, I think in this franchise he will be that will

be looked at like Tony Romo. People look at him as a really good quarterback, but you talk to fans, and fans still think that when it comes down to would he'd never won enough for them to put him in the category of being a great quarterback here. Right. Yeah,

I guess the word failure is a little strong. I mean because to me, a guy that just kind of wins in the NFC, I mean wins the wildcard maybe divisional round division because we still haven't we still have any right Well, I mean, I'm basically what I'm trying to say, is that, like, you know, it's Philip Rivers, a Hall of Fame quarterback, and I don't know. I mean, that's kind of what his whole career. That's a tough thing. Yeah, but it's a tough thing to do. I get the

Chargers in the Cowboys on way different levels on expectations. Yeah, maybe they shouldn't be, but you know, but the thing is that it takes about what's happened so far. Yeah, but but fans there are expectations are based off of what they remember righting up, and that's not the reality that that it is right now. I mean, you know, whether the Cowboys have three playoff wins in nine years, I don't even know where that would rank in in all the teams. I would say maybe in the middle.

Probably in the middle, I would guess, you know, because you got some teams that are going to get three in January, you know what I mean, New England gets three a year. Sometimes it's probably mid too, Like I would put it probably in the low seven, low twenties. I was gonna say, like about the eighteen nineteen, somewhere between seventeen and twenty two. I bet the last ten years. Yeah, how many playoffs win? I mean just off the top, I mean like New England comes to mind, Seattle comes.

Anybody makes the playoffs is getting three? I mean, I mean makes the Super Bowls. That's three, just in at you. They made earlier too, Yeah, at least two. All right, let's go ahead and take our first break. When we come back, we'll get into the whole Rams offense. And also, if you wanna, here's some answers to whatever questions you may have. Hit us on Twitter at Cowboys break. If you're like me and you love I mean, if you

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dot com. Slash football Back to the Break. We are back man horrible around our breaks. We have some fun conversations. I just want to talk about that I want to talk about that. I don't want to talk about I really want to talk about No, I don't, I don't. All right, go ahead, number two, Okay, getting back into Brett Maher. Yeah, we're gonna talk about them. Yeah, go all right, La Rams. The Cowboys are facing them this weekend. That team right there finished the season thirteen and three,

first in the NFC West. They are coming off a bye week, and now the Cowboys have to face them true their home, which is Cowboys to say my home as well, yeah, I'll allow it. What it is, my home. Cowboys show up, all right, So now we're gonna ask, we'll see, let's figure out what they got on the

offense and how the Cowboys can possibly attack them. I just think it's a this is a fun This is gonna be a fun little experiment between riding the wave and just being good because I think, you know, the Rams are objectively one of the two or three best teams in the league. They finished thirteen and three, but they went two and two over the final month of the season, so and they got a week off, you know, like it reminds me of twenty sixteen with the Cowboys, Like,

oh we don't have any momentum all that stuff. Wait huh was that Wait? No, okay, that was way It sounded like, waituh, you will be well surprise. But uh but I mean, you know, how's that? You know, Cowboys have been playing playoff games basically for six weeks. You've heard all those cliches, So who's gonna be hotter? And I'm curious because this is a really really really good offense. Um, But they're not. They're not doing anything recently that scares

the Bejesus out of me. Now They're not well, they're they're not. They went two and two, They had two really ugly losses to Philly in Chicago. They bounced back with two big wins against Arizona and San Francisco, who are among the worst teams in the lat Those teams yet Todd Gurley hasn't played since December sixteenth, was an issue? Yeah, yeah, And I mean Sean McVay expects him to play, But like,

that's it's certainly something you got to think about. They asked Jason Garrett about that in the press conference today. Is you know, hasn't played in a month? Does that matter? Garrett wrote it off, But I think it probably does, maybe a little bit. Um so. I mean, gosh, the Rams have been the story of the season. Their second in the league in offense, their fifth in passing yards, their third in rushing yards, their second in scoring. You

name it, they do it. Gurley is probably gonna win Offensive Player of the Year if I had to guess, He's got what twenty one touchdowns total, seventeen rushing. Um A guy in Kansas City that might say, whoa, whoa, that's he might. He might win MVP. He might. But I agree, now you're right, Freeze might get the sympathy vote there. We will see he hasn't deserved it. Eat. It really annoys me that we won't know until February fifth, but it's a different conversation. Um So, Yeah, obviously this

offense is awesome. Sean McVeigh gets all the credit in the world. Uh, everything flows through Todd Gurley. In my opinion, this team leads the league in play action percentage. They play fake on thirty five percent of their snaps. I think that's a big part of why Jared Goff has

been so much better since Sean mcvayh took over. Uh, you know, big on misdirection and buying him time, giving him a clean pocket, giving him, you know, I don't want to take anything away from him, he's a first overall pick in the draft, but giving him easy reads to make, which um, I think is big and very something that's easy to do when you have a threat

like Todd Gurley in the back field with you. So that's the big thing for me is can the Cowboys stop the run, which they are very good at their fifth and run defense, but also can they be disciplined and avoid getting sucked up by these play fakes because the Rams are going to do all that time. I mean, they do all the stuff that I love to see that I want Tavon Austin to do. Like they fake the jet sweep, they give it to their receivers. They

do some type of action on almost every snap. But then in addition to that, they'll just missdirect the whole play, like they'll send the line left in the quarterback right or vice versa. They do a lot of the bootleg and naked stuff that Dak Prescott's good at. I just there's some element of play faking on almost everything they do. And that's the big thing for me is being disciplined. I do think I think they've taken a step back since Cooper Cup got hurt. He missed the first eight

weeks of the season. He is He's a white wide receiver, so I feel like people miss I seriously. I feel like people miscast him and they're like, oh, he's a white receiver, Like, oh, he's like they're Cole Beasley. No he's not. He's well, he can run, he can play inside, he can play outside. He's big. He he reminds me, and this is high praise, but he reminds me of Michael Thomas, Like that's that's who he is. And my

like it was a big loss for them. His catch radius is similar his he can line up inside and outside like that. Like he's not Cole Beasley, He's nothing like that. And I think it's been bad for them since he's been gone because he's so versatile and he opens things up. Robert Woods and Brandon Cooks. I feel stupid saying this. They both have eighty catches and eleven hundred yards twelve total touchdowns. Like they're definitely dangerous. Cooks

is really really fast. Woods has had a career renaissance since he got to the Rams from Buffalo, But like I don't know, famous last words, like, these guys don't frighten me the way that other receivers the Cowboys played against not not in my opinion, And I think, like the thing that frightens you is that Sean mcvay's he's good at scheming things open, he's good at play design and and Todd Gurley makes you have to respect that

to the point where they get favorable looks. But like, you know, Mike Evans is better than them, Odell Beckham is better than them, Mike Thomas is, but you know, like it's he's he's not a Julio Jones that can do this stuff on his own. In my opinion, he kind of reminds me of a guy like Isaac Bruce from Back's Yeah. But the reason why But the reason why I say that is because he was one of those guys that I don't think at any point in his career you were like, oh my god, he's one

of the top three wide receivers in the league. But he's a guy that any given game can go off on you. And I mean even on his team a lot of for a lot of years, Tory Holt was considered to be the better of the two. Isaac Bruce to me was a very very quality will And I think that's the same thing right by Woods. Nobody ever says Isaac Bruce or Hold or Warner. But it was the combination of all of them with with Marshall Falk,

you know. And I think that's the key being Marshall fall. Yeah, but with the play action, I mean it with because of Gurley and all that play action, and then it makes Woods a better receiver, and it makes the speed absolutely and that's they're gonna get favorable looks and that's what makes them dangerous. I And all I'm trying to say is I don't think they are take over the game type of talents like in Antonio Brown, which I mean,

obviously he's the best receiver in football. So they're actually pretty mediocre in the red zone, which is shocking because Todd Gurley has something like eleven red zone touchdowns, Like it seems like you know, we've been saying all year, like, well, the Rams figured it out. If it's a Gurley in the red zone. They only score fifty seven percent of the time in the red zone, which is eighteenth in the league, and it's been a problem for them in

the games that they've lost. They lost to Philly in part because they couldn't score touchdowns when they got down there. They only scored twenty three in that game. You know, I'd be interested in knowing, And I'm not saying you have to know right now, but I'd be interested. You might believe you I'm well, just ask no, ask the question. Well,

the question is gonna be. I wonder if where they rank in the league as far as touchdowns outside the red zone, Like, how often are they getting where they're not even in the red zone. They're scoring from thirty, they're scoring from forty. They have those long touchdowns, so it's not even clearly, doesn't even matter. They're scoring a bunch of points. Our line of thinking is the same, But you're not. You're close, but you're not quite there.

You're right. The thing is is this is insane. They get to the red zone forty four percent of the time they have the ball. Oh, every other drive, every other drive they get to the red zone, which is best in the league by like a significant I was going to say, is there anybody even close? I think the next best team is like thirty seven percent. They get to the red zone forty cent of the time. Every other time they touch the ball they get inside

the opponent's twenty yard line. So even if they suck in the red zone, it doesn't matter because they get down there so much. They still wind up with a lot of points and a lot of opportunities to score. A lot of this has to do with the defense that they have, and they get thirty turnovers, which is we'll talk about that tomorrow. That ranks third in the league. I guarantee a lot of those are turnovers that are down in the red zone. And they've had some starting

field position, probably favorable, which helps that. I'm not saying that they don't they're not good at driving, No, that's a good point. Defense is helping them, Yeah, get the ball in short field sometimes. But you know, I feel like we I definitely highlighted every week. But that's that's what the Cowboys do well, is red zone defense. That's really their calling card. Like they don't force a lot of takeaways, at least not in the grand scheme of

the league. They don't. You know, they don't you know, you're not going they're not getting three and out all the time, and they buckled down in the red zone. So they're probably gonna have to do it this week, I would guess. I would guess the Rams are going to be down there a few times. And it's just about how you respond to that forty four. I mean when I read that, I was, yeah, I'm glad that reads the names. I wonder where that ranks, like in

the history of the NFL. That seems extraordinarily high. But shoot, shoot, shoot, I really think this all comes down to Todd Gurley shocking analysis. I know, um great stuff, I know, just really hard hitting stuff. But he hasn't played since the sixteenth, Since since December second, he's got twenty three carries for seventy six yards, which is kind of amazing when you think about he's still finished what second or third in the league in rushing. I mean, he was right there

in the mix. What exactly was his injury? I know it was to his knee, but was it a spring like not. I don't think he tore. I think it was like a sprained MCL or something like that. I don't have the specifics. I'm sorry, m but he I mean it has been he has sort of been shut down since December, which has been fine for them because they you know, they were already in the playoffs on December second. Probably, um, but obviously they want to run

the ball. They're really good or running the ball. They average a hundred three yards a game, so and and the Cowboys pride themselves on their run defense, so obviously it's big in that regard. But again, that's the Rams. That's like, their whole reason for being is to play fake, set up girly and use that to give Golf time and space to work with. And if they can't do it, I don't. I don't trust him, straight up. I don't trust golf to put the team on his back, so

to speak. All right, well, here's a question from Twitter. Were you done? Sorry? Well, I think this will be interesting for Derek. I think we've talked about it at times over the season, but you know, we talk about all the you know, jumbo personnel and twelve personnel. The Rams have run ninety six percent of their offensive plays out of eleven personnel, like which Sean McVay is just like, Nope, this is what we're good at and this is what

we're gonna do. And I just think that's refreshing. So you know, Tyler Higbee and Gerald Everett are their tight ends and they'll have a role to play. But like it's all about there. It's Robert Woods, Brandon Cooks, and now that cup has gone, it's Josh Reynolds, second year player out of a he's there, he's there, deep guy, he averages like sixteen yards per catch. It's those three guys in Gurley, and you're probably they're not going to

vary it other than that. So in other words, Sean Lee probably is not going to get a lot of snaps this week either, because they're probably not. They're probably gonna be a nickel pretty much the entire game, nicol and maybe even some dime depending on how they want to do it. But yeah, yes, you're right. So all right, well let's go ahead and take our final break, and when we come back, we'll hit up all these questions. Now, you guys are sending us at Cowboys break on Twitter.

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your first order. It's the difference between regular game playoff. I got a question for you, guys. I can't remember. Um, is this the stadium where we had to walk? Okay, so Tommy John, right, it is that state? I think, oh my god, remember that all the way up? Yeah? You don't, well, you don't. You guys went the wrong way because there's stairs on the outside of the facade that you have to take up. But you don't have to do that. There's an e stands like we went

through the stands, yes, and walked all. I had to pause at one point, clearly pause, take a break. Okay. I caught you one time when you actually felt backwards like it was a lot. You don't half that way? Okay, good? Yeah, all right, Well you talked about Girly. We know what he can do. So here's a question between these two guys. If you were a defensive coordinator, which of these two scares you the most of what they can do on

the field for this upcoming Girly or who Zike? Oh, that is an not an easy question to answer because of the style that they play. And if you had big guys up front, if that was the kind of defense you had, playing like a four to three and you had, I would I would think it would be, you know, harder to go up against Girly because of the but you if you had the speedy linebackers and stuff like that. But because Zeke is tough in between the tackles, Girly kind of gets you all over the place.

But to answer the question, I would say, probably Girly would be a little tougher. I think it's Girly and I think it's mainly but it's the scheme. It's a scheme that he plays in. I think they accentuate his strengths a little bit better than the Cowboys do. I've said that a million times, and I mean Zeke had seventy two catches or seventy seven catches, and he's been amazing. I still I think there's ways to utilize him even better.

I all you know, against the Cowboys. I think about how they sent Gurley down the seam and split the safeties and turn that game on its head. You know, what was that? Like a fifty five yard touchdown or forty yard touchdown? You don't see Zeke doesn't do stuff like that, And I know for a fact it's not like his It's not that he can't, right, it's the scheme and the coaching and so yeah, I think Girly is the answer. But I don't think it's because he's

definitively better than Zeke. I think if you flip these two guys, yes, would Zeke in LA. He'd be doing the same stuff one hundred percent. So I think these are evenly matched running backs. I think they have a lot of the same similar, similar traits and characteristics. So I don't really see that there's a bus. It's more of how they use. It's how they use. You said you think Zeke would do that in LA. You didn't finish. Do you think, yes, I think Girl could do the

exact same things as Zeke does here, I really do. Sure, I'm not, and I'm not sure. I don't watch him play as much. I know he's dynamic, and I know people, a lot of people play fantasy football, and so therefore he is great to have there. I get it. But sometimes you can forget that on third and one when the play isn't there, but your legs just bulldozed your way to the first down, or at least not a little dude. I'm not saying he is. I'm just saying I don't. He's not like I don't, I don't see.

I think they are both. I think they both have the same combination of speed, ability to catch, um, ability to to to to run and run strong like I've seen I've seen girly bows some guys. Okay, I've eard in one. Who are you giving the ball to? But you said you don't. You haven't watched him a lot, so you wouldn't really know, like you would not have a fair comparison between these two guys of what they can do in that sense. Why you asked the question? Then, Okay,

it wasn't that specific. We moved on to another part of it. But I think I think that they could both do the other one's job perfectly. I think, yeah, it's you're you're splitting hairs, and I mean that's not what you want to hear in this hot take society. But like they're both pretty damn good. Sorry, well, I think the good way to look at it is what you said, just looking at how each team is them

and what scheme they use. That's a better way as far as you being let's say, quote unquote what this person ask a defensive coordinator, then you would care more about what they are doing. And you know it's and I'm not The Cowboys are not as good on offense as the Rams are, obviously, but it has not been in the time that Zeke's been here, even when their offense was much better. It's not their m to zip up and down the field either. That's not the way

they want to play. So all right, here's another question, and we'll get into the Rams defense and what they're doing tomorrow. But do you guys think that the Cowboys should put Cooper in the slot in some place versus the Rams? I like moving Cooper all around, I mean, and I think he can do it. I think anything

you ask him to do, he can probably do it. So, especially if you've got some issues now where you're worried about the health and how much you're going to be able to use guys like Cole and Tavon and obviously hearns being out. I actually think that the more you can do with him to move him around so teams can't get a beat on him being in one spot is better. And so yeah, I would definitely do that if I were making the decisions. Well, the thing is that you have to worry about is are you making

your offense better by doing it? Because you know when he's on the outside, you know pretty much where Cole is going to be or Austin. You know if they're going to out there as as slot guys, those they're not really that great on the outside, especially Beasley. So by whatever you gain by putting Cooper in there, are you giving something up by Beasley on the outside. Yeah, I think the thing to consider there is how is the defense going to play you if you move him

into the slot. Are they going to travel a guy with him or are you now going to get their third best cornerback if you put him in the slot. And if that's the case, it doesn't matter who you put on the outside. The fact is he's getting a favorable matchup, especially if they're gonna play man against him like that. So it's all a chess game, right. You're trying to doing what you're doing and you're seeing how they're responding to it, and then you're making adjuns offense.

That's the thing about having Beasley is that you know you kind of know where he's going to be, at least where he's gonna start out in the middle of the field. But uh, you know, Tavon's not really that way because Tavon's got the speed. We've seen a couple of times, not a lot, but we've seen that he goes vertical. I have a feeling he's gonna ask for some of those this game, he's ready, he's gonna be

I'm hoping this is that game. You know, I've been saying all year, there's gonna be a game at some point you're gonna look back at and it's gonna be like, yeah, that was the Tavon game, because that's why you get him. He's not don't say it's not gonna be every week like he's not that kind of player. But my hope is that there's gonna be one or two times in a season where you're like, that was a game where they won that game because of Tavon Austin, and we

saw flashes of it last week. That's the kind of difference he can make on especially on special teams. He can make a difference because he can take a play that now is just gonna be a fair catch in some instances, and he turns that into a touchdown. So that's what I think they need from him, is they need those kind of catalytic plays a story if he it's a for a touchdown in this game. Amazing. All right?

Do you guys think that the Cowboys will blitz on third down kind of similar to what they did against Seattle? That's different because Carson Is or Penny or whoever they got is not girly. And that's what when you have backs like that that catch out of the backfield, it's tougher to blitz because they do have Okay, sin seven guys watch this. I just dumped it over their head. They like, they like the screen, right, so they do. It's a different type of you know, different type of

situation for sure. Um we say it all the time. Third down, Yeah, you blitz twice in a row and then on the third one, you don't you play a prevent defense. I mean, you're just trying to confuse golf. As good as he is, as talented he is, as

Dave said, he's still young. He's a young quarterback. I'm interested though It's funny, um, you know NFL all NFL players like they there's a one sentence scouting report that every fan can regurgitate, you know, and the line to this point in Goff's careers that if you get in his face, he's gonna fold. Like that's the perception at least.

Jason Garrett said today that the thing that stood out to him the most during his college evaluation is how well he delivers the ball under pressure, Like he's not afraid to step up into a rush and throw a really pretty ball. And though obviously those two things contradict each other pretty well. So you know what, we've seen Goff once really in a meaningful game. So I'm interested to see which of the two of those is true, because, like I mean, I said, I don't trust him. I

you know, Dak Prescott has fifteen fourth quarter comebacks. How many does Jared Goff have? And obviously a lot of that's because they're comfortably ahead by the fourth quarter. Get in the red zone. That happened sometimes. I mean, Jake Plumber used to do it all the time. I mean, I don't know if you even yeah, I remember Jake. I'm just saying the Snake, those guy Andy Dalton, Matthew Stafford, they have a lot of comebacks because they're the ones

that are put their team down. Yeah, you know of a back end, Tom, but I sorry, the captain of comeback. Sometimes it happens. But that's that's a fair point. But I mean Drew Brees and Russell Wilson have spent a lot of their careers comfortably ahead too, but they have track records of coming through when they need, you know. So I'm not saying Jared Goff can't do it, but

I am not familiar with that. And so I'm curious if if the Cowboys can make a game of this and smack him around a little bit, is he up to that challenge. I don't know, I really don't. I mean, you think about a guy like Aaron Rodgers. He's made a living off the fact that you get to that one thirty seven left in the game, they get the ball, they're down about three, and he's gonna win. Like know,

nothing about that, and that's saying like that's so. Yeah, you could say that they have a little part in it, but there is still something to just knowing when you get the ball with a little bit of time left and you're down, if you got a quarterback that can

deliver it matters matters in the NFL. And that's I don't want to get I don't want to give too much away because I'm writing about it later this week, but like I just this is a real fun matchup in terms of narratives, because I mean the narrative for a year and a half is that Sean McVay has revolutionized the world of football, and you know, the world, every world he's gonna solve. He's gonna solve the crisis, the Middle East and everything like all that. He's gonna everything.

But if he loses this game, then he's twenty four and five, twenty four and eight in the regular season with two one and duns in the playoffs. Liked when he had a buy, yeah, he was, he didn't have this year when he's had a by both of his teams that were so good in the regular season, that got home games that wouldn't move, whereas I mean, and I mean to be you know im, I want to be objective. You can say the same thing about Jason Garrett.

If he wins this game, he's the guy that got the Cowboys back to the game that they hadn't been to in twenty years. And if he loses, then he's owned three in the divisional round the same and he's a choke artist and that that's not me saying that that's on their line. For these teams outside and just to win huge. Do you think it would be more excited about their team winning Tavon Austin or Wade Phillips.

I mean, they will dance differently after the game. I would like to think Wade, I would think about it. I would like to think that Wade Phillips has kind of made it peace with what happened here, Like if he's still been one been fired from like targets around he won to he won a super Bowl with with one of the cowboys best players, Like if he's still that No, I get that part, it's been there's been

some time. But that guy over there, Jason Garrett, is the guy was on his dead Oh sure, and now all of a sudden when it went down, he got to be the head. It's still fresh for Tavon. Don't get me wrong, Well, Wade, is that years of kind of dealing with that is I'm sure part of part of Wade will always be happy to beat the Cowboys, But like Tavon, it had definitely a different kind of

statisfact action. But I would go with the coaching. I would say Tavon because it just hasn't even been a year since they shipped them away, and he's, you know, he's a first round pick pick that hasn't lived up this first time. He's getting way. Does this every try to prove what I've every week? Wait time too, yeah, yeahs a oh dang, we're done. We are done, and we ran out of time. We'll be back tomorrow, though. We'll keep answering some of y'all's questions that and thank

you guys for sending those in. And Dave will give us counting report on the Rams defense tomorrow. So Donald, he's good, good play all right for a long time. For Derek got Nicki, David Helmet, and Bergarcia. This has been the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas cowboys dot com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club