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on a good show? Yeah? No, damn. Absolutely did miss you? Really? I missed you, guys, Yeah, I missed you. You really don't pull punches ever. Yeah. The average age of the show, do you know what a joke is? Yeah? The average age of my show is one hundred and five and this one is a lot less than absolutely absolutely all right. I wanted to get into the some of the guys that people people are asking about. One of them is Shaun Lee. He's been doing some work today. How is

that looking for this weekend? I know, obviously it's kind of soon to tell, but as far as the things that you've been able to see out on the field and what he's been able to do so far, only practiced yesterday, is at practice again today. We always say, you know, you're the earlier in the week you're available, the better it is for your prospects of being available. So I feel kind of confident that he might be

able to go. And what we've we've gone back and forth about what that means for the linebacker position and how they platoon all those guys. But I'm kind of leaning toward thinking he might be active. You know, usually you have like a situation where you got to buy week. I mean, you wouldn't think that you would play, but no one shan Lee and seeing what he's seeing out there on the field, with these two guys playing like they are, I think he wants to get back there

as well. So he said it all along. If I'm healthy, I'm going to play, regardless the bias. Yeah, I think that it was very clear that Jason Garrett came out the other day, I think it was Monday, and was talking about there's only so many of these games, you know, there's only so many of these opportunities, And I think that was a really good hint that Sean was going to try and work his way through. I know on our periscope yesterday I said he's going to come and

play and start, and I don't. I don't feel that any different today than I did, you know, so I'm going I'm gonna say that he's gonna be part of this rotation. He's likely gonna he's gonna start him and Jalen Smith, and then they're gonna find ways to get him, Laton vander Esh, those guys all through are going to rotate.

And I think at the end of the day, it's gonna be really good for Sean Lee because in the fourth quarter, when you need him in a game to come out and make a play, maybe to chase down a quarterback, to chase a ball, to knock a ball down fourth down, whatever he has to do, you'll have a fresh or Seawan Lee playing that way, and I think that's a good thing. I just want to stop and consider the fact that Dallas Cowboys might have have

too many good linebackers, Like, what the hell happened? That's amazing. I can't even believe those words came out of my mouth, but it's true. You know what they've said. Problem they took a chance they took a chance though, really on one of them, on Jalen Smith. Helly, it took a huge chance on Jalen Smith. And you know, and point the finger at me as not wanting anything to do

with Jalen Smith. But now you have a situation where you're saying, well, you know, everybody's thinking they drafted Layton vander esh to possibly play for Jalen Smith. It's not Jalen Smith. It's not like it's Sean Lee. But now, okay, they got through the time. I'm surprised, and I asked this question on our show the day. I am surprised how smoothly this this without Sean Lee has gone. And there's a lot of work up turnabout communication. I think

that's talking. On the offense, it seems to be a problem, but on defense they haven't given a big place. They haven't. You know, I'm I'm sitting there screaming for for you know, go out and get that guy from Seattle, go out and get her Thomas, because I was worried about Sean Lee being out of the lineup. Then all of a sudden, like who's going to hold this thing together? But a rookie and a third year player are really holding this

thing together. Plus you got what's going on up front with their rotation of their pass rush and their defensive line. So you know, count me as being not very smart thinking about what Jalen Smith could do. You know, I had some questions about Layton Vanderish some, but you know, they were smart. They knew what they needed to do to get through this, no doubt about it. Now you mentioned the line, and as far as some of these guys, Molly Collins, he's finally in full practice, it seems ready

to go. Obviously played last game. Now as far as DeMarcus Lawrence, he's still showing up as limited with the whole shoulder injury. Is this turning something into maybe that it's kind of concerning or just one of those things that you know, he's a tough guy. That's some kind of injury that he can keep playing through. He's gonna play. Yeah, but no, yes, both because it's not going away. He's got a tear in his labor, I mean yeah, which is yeah, it's absolutely concerning. I think we talked about

that on Monday or Tuesday. It is just that I have no doubt he's gonna fight through it, but he fought through it. He fought through a shoulder issue in twenty sixteen and it's severely limited his ability. So I'm not ready to say that we're going to see a severe drop off. He's still been you know, even he's been he's impacted these last two games. He hasn't had

the sacks, but he's been there. So I'm not ready to say he's gonna disappear, but it seems like something he's gonna He's gonna be fighting it all year, and I think that, you know, it sucks for him, Okay. And then the last guy I want to talk about, Cheeto Cheetah ba Wooziah is still struggling there with the ankle injury limited how I mean, based on what we saw,

Jordan Lewis kind of stepping in. Are you feeling kind of okay with Okay, let's just leave Cheeta off to the side, let him recover with the amount of time he needs, and you're okay with Jordan. I think it's this front seven is playing so well right now, especially the linebackers. But the front seven is playing well. And I'm not trying to discredit what Jordan Lewis has done or even Cheeto and Byron is playing great. But I do think that they're playing so well together up front

that they're allowing these guys to step in. Jordan can come in, he can make plays, he can pick up a fumble, he can do some good things. Um, I think they're gonna need Cheeto obviously, from they're gonna have. They're gonna go against them, the Matt Ryans and Carson Wentz and all those guys. But I think right now it's it's it's it's going well and the confidence of Jordan Lewis it seems to be a raised that's a

good thing too. I think when Cheeto is one hundred percent he comes back into the mix, it's probably a good thing right now. Yeah, I think they were worried about I mean, I met person. I was worried about them losing Jordan Lewis. I really was like I was losing them him mentally, like being being having the fire in his gut to continue to play. You know, Chris Rushard.

It might have been the best thing in the world ever for Byron Jones, for Chris Richard to come in, because he saw something in him that nobody else had seen. In him, so hey play him at right corner. But what else did he do? He said, well, you know what, I would rather play with Anthony Brown than I would with Jordan Lewis. And so all of a sudden, now and you know, here's Jordan Lewis. He played fourteen games

for it. I think he made seven starts for you last year, and all of a sudden, now he's your fourth best corner, you know, and that that was a big, big switch for him to have to But I think this game, you know, they threw him in the dime package into against Detroit and he got beat, you know, on that play, and that's going to happen. But then they didn't play him the rest of the time. You're thinking, okay, well here we go. They're not going to play him anymore.

But you know, he got a lot of work last week practicing because the woozier, as you said, Ambro was not ready to go. And so he's he played with some confidence in practice, played with some confidence in the game, and it looks like that he's back to the guy that we kind of saw a little bit last year and not this guy that's kind of wandering around without a rudder out in the water somewhere, just waiting to hit land. And what helps him, I think is kind

of his personality, to his attitude. You know, he's not an example the Orlando's can Drake type of behavior locker rooms, though. I'm glad. I'm sure we're all glad to see that he was able to step in and take advantage of those reps. Now, Dave, let's get into the Redskins defense. Now. Oh, we're gonna do that right now. Okay, you always like you. It's I like how you mix it up. I never know, I never know when you're gonna spring that all. You

gotta go on the fly. You did it at the top of the show one time, and you waited for the first break one time. But yeah, okay, we can do that right. Well, we have time, we have a little time before we go into break. Nick is gonna step out for a little bit, so let's just start off with the interview the owner. That's probably more important than talking to us, maybe, Okay, no, yeah, let's get

into it. Um. It's funny because it's a different scheme, but the Cowboys and the Redskins just remind me so much of each other. Like, this looks familiar to me looking at them, So it's a three four defense. I don't think I really buy that. They look just as much four three as three four. To me, Ryan Karragan and Preston Smith played down just as much as they

play up. And this is a big front. Like we talked last week about how athletic the Jags are, and obviously all NFL players are athletic, but this is this is size. That's the last thing I was just looking at before you threw it over to me is Durron Payne and Jonathan Allen are the centerpiece of this thing.

These first round picks they've taken the last two years six three three twenty and sixty three three hundred, and they move with alarming athleticism, like Jonathan Allen and Durn Payne routinely make plays at the numbers even though they're freaking gigantic. And then you got Preston Smith who's six five to eighty and Ryan Karragan is the smallest guy at six four two sixties. So this is gonna be a lot of beef for the Cowboys off pensive line

to handle. And behind them again, you say three four, but Kerrigan and Preston Smith are basically ends. I don't really consider them linebackers. So you've got much like Jalen Smith and Layton Vanderesh or Shawn Lee. You got two middle linebackers behind that front that make every tackle that they miss in Mason Foster and Zach Brown. Yep, I don't think that there is Again, I don't think they're as freakishly athletic as Jalen or Vanderesh, but they appreciate

I appreciate this positive reinforcement. Um. They they're instinctive players though like they make tackles, they diagnose plays like I said, they don't. They don't jump off the screen at you the way Jalen Smith does in my opinion, but they're always where they're supposed to be. Um, if you had to rate them compared to what the Cowboys have faced so far, they're not as I struggle to say, they're not as good. They're not as athletic as you say.

You're saying the front seven or just front seven. That's a good question. That is a really good that's a good dick, and I'm gonna answer that when he gets all right, let me let me just go down the line. Um, I don't think they're as good as Carolina. I don't think they're they're better than New York, especially when you consider that Olivier Vernon didn't play in that game. They're better than the Seahawks current incarnation probably debatable. Um. Week four,

they're better than Detroit overall. I think they're probably better than Houston. And I know it's all about the pass rushers. That's where I think it's very similar. Yeah, that's where I think we I think we were really you know, you think they're better than Jacksonville just the front. No, Yeah, I don't think they're better than Jacksonville. Are you saying there like Houston because of the size. I'm saying because of the size, and I'm saying because the slinky play,

And I mean, I'm talking about the linebackers. What gave the Cowboys trouble in that Houston game. It was that guys at number ninety kind of moving around and doing different things. But that's kind of I don't see that guy here. Oh, Preston Smith can be that guy. Preston Smith. I think Preston Smith is one of their most underrated players.

I heard you say that yesterday. Yeah, I think he is one of the most underrated players and a number ninety four, and you watch him play, and these guys had the Billy where And this is why I asked Jason Garrett this question today Dave and the walk off about the three four and the four to three. You know, you know, we all want them to do more read option. We want them to let Dak run the ball. Is there going to be a difference for this offense to

have to play against up front? That is, you know, in three to four in scheme, but you know, but they show some four three tendencies, you know, is it different? It's different from having to block outside linebackers standing up than it is having to block defensive ends that are down. And so that's where I'm kind of thinking, which will will Houston excuse me to say, well, well, well, well Washington, look at what Hughes did scheme wise, and try and

affect the Cowboys running game that way. My counter to that is and that you know, you go back and watch the film of this, and you know, the New Orleans Saints absolutely demolished this defense rolling the ball. Though No, I basically I don't care about that because the Cowboys aren't going to play that way Drew Brees. They don't. But shockingly, the Carolina Panthers, if they don't get in a seventeen nothing hole right out of the gate in that game, they Yes, they had some success running stuff

the Cowboys like to do. Yes, kid, that's where I'm seeing, you know. I think that that if you're you know, if you're if you're Greg Manuski, who's the defensive coordinator for Washington, I think you have to look at games where people were able to control Dallas from running the football. I think that's the kind of the thought that, now, do you have the personnel to do that? I think Washington does have the personnel to play with the heavy

the heavy techniques inside, I would agree. I think they have the length and the and the power on the outside with the with the two outside linebackers. And now it's gonna come down can those inside linebackers as great players? Can they make plays if you're running the ball. I just if I'm if I'm a Newski, I am not letting Dallas run this football and I'm not letting Cole Beasley beat me throwing the ball. But to that point, we saw the read option. Yeah, plenty of success against

the Jags. Yes, we saw Carolina do it to these guys too, right, And I mean, I think Dak Prescott needs to be ready to take a beating in this game because I think he's gonna have to. Are we okay with that? We all we all made a determination. I know, I do stuff with a show with her and we're like, hey, yes, yes, yes, you know what I mean. If you've you know, it's it's too for this offense to move. They're gonna have to have Dak play that way. Yes, they cannot. You're you're you're you're

playing with him. Just throwing the football is not the is not gonna win you this game. Between between Alan and Payne and then the linebackers there, like, yeah, I completely think that they can limit Zeke and what they're thinking about four point one to carry there. And they're

sixth in the league in rushing defense too. Yeah, I think that they have what it takes to stop them from just ramming the ball down the which is why, yeah, Dak's there's gonna have to be an element of misdirection and Dak being willing to keep the ball to keep them off back Carolina was a great precursor to what they're gonna see this week. In my opinion, Yes, you know, if you talk about like I believe New England is playing the Bears. They played the Bears, right, Yeah, they

played Kansas City last week. So you sometimes you get schemes that carry over the week the week. Really Yeah, that's a good point, and so I think you're gonna get a carry over schemes. They get to talk football when I'm on your show, and so you know, it's but it's scheme to scheme, you know what I'm saying. So if if Greg Manuski again, he's gonna look at that film and say, Okay, how did Carolina hurt us? How did they hurt us running the football? And you're right, though,

that's seventeen and nothing. Lead was huge because it made Carolina pretty one dimensional. Yeah, they had to get away from they had to get away from everything. But you know, look what Dallas has done, say, the last four week meetings they've had even I mean last year the two games weren't even close, and they weren't even close, especially

the one here. Yeah, So I mean I just kind of think that, you know, but there was no Travis Frederick, and you know, it's just there's some things that kind of make you a little bit nervous about this offense. Let me ask you this. I mean, I cheated because I edit your matchup story every week, so I know, I know that you think that they're going to take or try to take Cole Beasley away, which why wouldn't they after what Cole Beasley did? And I think there's

precedent for it. I thought it was really funny that I think Jerry it was Jerry Jones that kind of compared what Beasley did against the Jags to what Witten has been for this offense. Right, well, the Redskins spent all day last Sunday taking Greg Olsen out of Carolina's offense. God opened up a couple of times if they missed him on some overthrown cam cam missed him, but basically every time he went down field, he had a guy there. He had a safety over the top or a linebacker

trail in the play. And I would imagine it's going to be something similar for Cole Beasley. Which my question is, I assume Cole Beasley is going to have his work cut out for him. Do you think that somebody else in this offense can make plays against this secondary because I know that break, We're gonna take this question too. I think you got an answer for this one too. Well. When we come back, we'll answer that question and keep

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my John Dear Dealer dot com. Slash Football Back to the Break. All right, we are back, Dave. Do you want to ask that question again? Ah? Yeah, I can do that. Um. So we talked about the Redskins. Are I would assume probably going to try to double Cole Beasley? I would think that's going to happen. Yeah. Do you think somebody else in this passing game can hurt them for doing that? Which is not something we've really seen. No, through six weeks and we have not. We have not.

He wants wants No, No, I'm interested. Well, I mean, honestly, there hasn't been anyone to give you that or make you think that way as of right now. And the only guy that would come to mind is Michael Gallup. As far as other than him, there has not been anyone else that has received as many opportunities, I would say, or as many chances to make something out of it. But even then he hasn't been great. We've seen flashes of him making plays and catching the ball. We know

he can do that. He just hasn't done it often enough, so I don't think he can really be affected that. I would like to believe that. I would like to believe that she's right. And my my, you know, you can't have Colbes with nine catches and then everybody else with one. I mean that this that I mean even though they won the game that way, they won the game because their ability to run the football. Yeah, you know, Dak Prescott sped in with eighty yards and then you

got another hundred from Zeke. Anytime chipping in, anytime eighty yards is chipping in? Well you don't. Yeah, not every week you're gonna think your quarterback's gonna run for eighty yards. But now I agree with m bar and I'm trying to figure out, though, Okay, who else do you do you get Jeff Swain involved? Does he become now a guy And I'm not just talking about the waggles and the boots and things like that. I'm talking about do you try and get him into the passing game with

us some of this? We saw him catch the out the other day. You know, it was a big play. Nice, you know, he's got an ability to kind of not kind of he gets himself open, but do you find ways to implement him more in the offense with and so you can get Beasley and Gallop and then Swain and then now you're throwing the screens and stuff to the outside or the or the passes you try and get to Zeke. I genuinely don't care. It just needs to be somebody, somebody Well, okay, oh you're not well,

you guys are not wrong at all. Fabian Moreau is there in their nickel corner. Yes, so you guy, you really like u CLA, you would have you know, he's Beasley's guy, and they're gonna do what they can to help him, whether it's a linebacker or a safety. I don't think Dj Sweringer is that he loves to hit. Not that guy aggressive. He's not a great guy. I don't really think Monte Nicholson is that impressive either. Yeah, but they're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna they're gonna think

he is. Yeah, They're gonna the Redskins are gonna say, Okay, well he's good enough to help, you know, And I maybe he is. Yeah, And I think it's gonna be more involvably with the linebackers because Beasley's where's the damage that Beasley's been can do in the middle of the field, the middle of the field underneath. You have to find ways. Now this team plays a ton of his own defense. I wonder if they're going to do that against the Cowboys and give Beasley free access in these routes because

if they do that, he will wear them out. There's no question about that. What and you about Quentin Dunbar earlier this week too, He's I wrote, he's over he's overly aggressive, way over. Get right for the double moves there or even whatever like play action or anything you can do to deceive him. I think it works. So basically my point is, and even uh, he's a good player. But Devin Funchius gave Josh Norman some work last week, like this isn't amazing. Yeah, this is where it's gonna

come down to. Because that's why I thought Houston was more like this team, because good defensive front, questions in the secondary, you know, yeah, that's where you know what did Dallas do? They didn't protect well enough in the Houston game, and you and they weren't able to take advantage of the secondary. But you think that the Redskins are just as good as the Texans. I think up front, Yeah, I think up front they present. They don't have the

pass rusher, but but they don't rush. They don't rush the passer. They've only got They have twelve sacks on there, and they didn't get a ton of pressure on Cam New. But you hold the ball. This guy holds the ball a little bit. Maybe he shouldn't. Yeah, well, here here's

a friend question for you guys. And after hearing how the Redskins defense is, and I believe that part of the Cowboys success offensively comes from the ability to use different elements, whether it's Dak running the ball or giving the ball to see throwing passes. What is something that they're going to have to rely the most in this specific game facing this defense. Because you talked about them kind of limiting the running game a little bit, and

then we talked about the passes and stuff. What would be the one thing that you could trust them to actually do and be successful at in this game? Well, you know Stephen Jones was talking about I just talked to Stephen. He said the biggest play of the game in his mind was a deep ball to Tavon Austin that was incomplete. Yeah, he thought that play was just taking a shot. So I asked him, I said, all right, now, Tavon's not going to be here this week, what or

maybe in a few weeks. And he said, Deonte Thompson is we got to utilize his speed. We've got to get his speed involved. Didn't mean get him involved, get his speed involved. Also he said Bryce might be a part of that as well. But but I just think that being said of what he said, I think we have to he said, we have to continue to take shots down the field, whether or not you're completing those passes or not, which then goes back to your question. They got to run the football, of course, but how

to do that, how to back him off? How to get these aggressive guys to bite. I think they're going to see some deep balls, even if they're completed or not. He's good playing and that's scenario. Who do you trust more at this point, Deonta Thompson or Bryce Bowler, Although we haven't seen year. That's a good question. It is a great question. But you know what I'll throw out a third guy in there. But I'm throwing galloping. Yeah, yeah,

what's the thing with Gallup? I mean, the one thing that we've seen with Gallup is he might be running, run and running, then all of sudden you see at the very end there's that separation. Where Gallup has had a little bit of some problems. Is the seeing the ball over his head. You know, when he's having to fight track it a flight of the ball. So you know when they put the ball on him like they did in San Francisco, man, you can you can have

some big plays there. But and he mentioned him as well like that that he's a long strider, and I think I think, I think that, Yeah, I think Michael Gallop has to be I think Michael Gallup has to be a guy if he if he has seven targets and forum or catches, I'm okay with that because I know, and there's gonna be a day we ate seven targets

on the year. Well, that's what I'm saying though. That's where that's where if I asked if I was sitting in the box with Scott Linahan, I would say thirteen, you know, I mean, I'd click over if I's Jason Garrett. I'm saying, you know, hey, you got something for thirteen there, you got something for him. You know you got something. I would just keep reminding him that. You know, this guy has that kind of ability. We saw what he was able to mean, he if he comes down with

that ball in the end zone. I mean that ball was looked like it was going over his head and he goes up there and gets it and he everything, he did everything right but his foot coming down and hitting the back of his other foot. But that's because he hung in the air for like five seconds to catch it. Yeah, you know you can't. You can't coach that stuff. It sounds like wishful thinking because we haven't

seen it on any kind of consistent basis. But yeah, like they need somebody needs to win out by the numbers, like on a consistent basis to the point, because we think they're gonna take Cole Beasley away and we think they have the personnel to stop Seeke. So what I mean,

what do you do otherwise? See that's where I was kind of like hitting a little bit about Jeff Swain, you know, and maybe okay, it turns into simple passes to just swin that's what it takes seven or eight yard and then he you know, we've seen him when he's got the balls in And I'm not just talking about the waggles and the boots we were moving the pocket. I'm talking about fine ways to hit him and let him, you know, eight yards. I don't I don't want to

play second in two right there. I don't want to compare. I don't want to compare Jeff Swain to Jordan Read because Reads one of them. When he's healthy, he's one of the best Titans in football. But like half the stuff they do with him is just him sitting down in the zone. I mean, you know, the classic Jason Witton stuff, right, Alex Smith loves to check it down.

That's fine, Yeah, that's fine with me. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know they gotta because I just I straight up, they're not gonna let Cole Beasley do what he did last week. There's I don't think he can. There's too much beef on this defense to think Zeke is gonna, you know, just power his way to this. Yeah, and unless you can pass enough to back them off. Yeah, some of the plays they made last week in the game, that's what was the play they went to Gallup that

was third and nine. I mean they had a lot of third and nine or third and whatever plays they had to make in that game. Yeah, So I don't know if you want to continually live that way because they hadn't been very good on third down but for last week right around forty one percent. So but I

just don't I just don't see. There was a question that was posed, Um, I guess through the website and the fans that are watching the show right now, is Cole Beasley the biggest the Cowboys biggest threatnin voted non voted yes. So did they did they have a Oh, I have it too. So they don't have an answer, though, I mean I agree in the passing game or on offense. In the passing game, I would guess because common sense

says Zeke is your biggest threat. But at first I had looked when I looked at the numbers, I thought that eight nine. I said yes, and I was like, very very I was gonna be very surprised after just one game by people saying that. But clearly Cole is one of those guys and one of those elements that could really help the Cowboys offense get moving and we saw it in two sixteen. I want to see it this week. I want to see it after nine catches.

I want to see him come back. And yeah, that would be amazing because because they're gonna try to stop him. You know, he had one catch the week before, but because that's what I'm still wondering if he can do and they really want to focus on him and you I mean, because teams want to focus on Antonio Brown. Yeah, he still makes plays. Yeah, focus, I'm not trying to compare him. I'm just saying, well, they try to shut him down and that you know he's in a on

track year. That would be a hell of a chase statement for his next contract. Garrett always talks about this. He's always this, if they want to take you out of a game, they'll take you out of a game. But that's where to Ambar's question, that's okay, who else? Who else is gonna step? Yeah? Yeah? Who who else is going to get nine targets and make seven catches?

You know who if if Cole Beasley gets two catches, but you know, Michael Gallup or Thompson or whoever catches seven balls and it turns into you know, near one hundred yard day, then then you're gonna make people have

to back off covering Cole Beasley. I think I've probably brought it up on this show before, but I just have this vivid memory of OTA's and Gary Brown was like, Yeah, we know we're gonna be dealing with stack boxes, but we've got we've got some guys here and we know that they feel disrespected and when they start winning things on the outside, that'll change. Well, yeah, we're halfway through the season and that has not happened yet. No, and it needs to if this offense is going to achieve

any type of consistency. Well let's take our final break. But in the meantime, a few guys are listening to vote in on this next question, which wide receiver needs to be the most involved? Just tune in on Cowboys on Dallas Cowboys dot com. There on the podcast and make or vote and we'll discuss the answers when we come back. While the player can look good on paper, it's one he's out on the field that you really find out what he's made of. That's why the Cowboys

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to be on the field with America's team. Find steps and hats in the pro shop or at Stetson dot Com. Today, back to the break, we are back on the final segment of the break. The voting actually happens through the Cowboys app, so if you don't have it downloaded and be part of this show with your voting. So the question was which wide receiver needs to be the most involved? Who would you guess fans voted for. Oh, they've got to vote for Gallup. I believe Michael Gallop. Michael Gallup,

which takes on the lead with fifty two percent. Oh that's interesting. But now we have Alan Hearns at forty percent. I'd be all right too. I would feel I'd have an easier time defending Hearns if I mean, he probably should have had a touchdown last week by Oh, Bryce,

I've gotten tired of trying to right now. Yeah, I've gotten tired of trying to promote him because every time I think that he's going to be a part of the operation, something happens to close Yeah, he's standing behind Alan Hearns telling you why the receiver shouldn't get pretty game cheer leader. He got a lot of FaceTime and yeah, the game of the day. I wouldn't mind seeing Hearns get more involved. I said, I said last week that good stuff happens when you throw it to him more

often than not. All I mean, like I said, I mean, Dak gave him a pretty well placed ball that he might have had for a touchdown if he hadn't lost it in the lights the other day. But other than that, though, I mean, Terrence Williams am I A. I don't I don't think I'll ever fully understand how that, I mean, why was wrong about him? Yeah, you and me both way wrong about him? After Terrence uh Tavon Austin is a guy that I've been screaming needs to be more involved,

and now he's unavailable. So who's left but gallup as he Detay Thompson Stevens something there. He's a great guy and he's got a valuable skill set. But like he he's never intrigued me the way that he intrigued other Can I ask a question, okay, if say that you talked about Austin if he, in fact is in eight week injury, you know, or needs to go in I R who would you rather have up in that spot? Would you rather have Brown comeback? Or Lance Lenore? Noah Brown?

This is the Noah Brown fan club over here on this side of the table, So really, yes, Well I don't know about a Brown oh those two. Yes, for sure. I've seen way more out of him. I don't know why. I've just I've never been a big Lance guy. He's done nothing but catch balls and make touchdowns and done everything. I just I don't know. I just feel like everyone when though, when when is it that you see that happening? Though? Summer? Okay, exactly exact when we're all in Oxnard, Noah Brown. That's

I'm saying. I would love to fight for Lance Lenore, But it's hard to fight when you know you're saying you see him, You're like, this guy might make some plays and then all of a sudden, the lights come on and you're like, where do you go? You know, it's like you don't Anderson, he kind of came in why not? He came in Layton training camp and just kind of made a play every time he got he got the chance. I think it's gonna come down to

personally Lance. I don't think they're gonna I think if they had to make a switch, they would go with Brown. I think Brown has a body. They brought back Bryce Butler instead of elevating Lance Lenore. That's really all you need to know Noah Brown. You know, but one point, people want des back so much like how many times did you confuse Noah Brown for Deaz last year? They look the same and with their ridiculous insistence on you know,

running crackback blocks with their receivers against defensive ends. Noah Brown can actually do that. He did it all last year, so he can help you in the run game. And he's got that you know, freaky box out physical body type. I who knows if he'll actually be as good as I think he could be. Probably not. Can he come back? He can practice today? I think they're gonna wait, No, he's not out there today. No, they're gonna wait and

see if what's up with Austin. But he can't play until week after week eight, right, some week nine whatever week, So that's this is seven bye week is eight, So he wouldn't be able to play until after the Titans game. That's a guy that I definitely want to see on the field and give it a chance at least. But it might be it might be the like I said, I've tried to think about, Okay, what does this team need? It needs a like a big body guy to go get the football. I mean that's I mean, you know,

we've seen they're not good. They didn't do anything with Austin. That's one of those ones are gonna look back on and someone's gonna go. Amber made us answer this yesterday, Brian, you weren't here, would you go get a Mark Cooper? You know I've hearn that Mark Cooper doesn't like football. I heard you say that on twit. Yeah, and and that's coming from some Raider guys. So I mean, we'll see. I don't know. I mean, I I know John Gruden is trying to get rid of Reggie McKenzie too. He's

trying to get rid of all his players. Heard of that about other guys. I've heard that about Tacco when he first got here. I don't even know where I heard it from, but I heard it. Guys who don't like football can still be good if no, no, there's no question, but the thing that would make you think, you know, okay, maybe a change in scenery would be good for the guy. But okay, do you what do you give up? Do you're gonna give up your one? And that's what they're gonna ask you for, give up

your two. I would give up a two. I would not up a one and give up anything. Now, see, you want to see brown player, right, Hey, why not? I'm just saying at this point, it's not like I don't think a player like him, she's about to make a really good she's about to make a good point here,

would actually make a huge change on this offer. Could they Could a player like that, a player like that thrive in this current the way they throw the football, And that's I'm not I think that's the direction you were. I'm thinking that that's the direction pretty much. Yeah, you don't like football, or you've done something to let people think that you don't. Yeah, this isn't a great place, a great offense for it. There's gonna be some games

where you get one or two catches. Look at yeah, Alan Hurns, Alan Hearns get stepped up and said, listen, stop pointing the finger. At me. You know, there's other problems on this team. There's there's very few receivers that I'm convinced that they would like elevate this thing, just with the way the Cowboys play football, with the way they've protected and the way that has played in most

of the sames. But what would would a big time receiver be able to thrive in this Yesterday, go around the room and pick a guy you want to have on this team, and he went with Thomas for I don't even and I picked him, I just says des Kent says death. That's what Kent says, Dez. I don't. Oh you didn't hear you did's headphones on? Sorry you don't. I forgot. Who would you go, Brian? If I could go pick somebody, Yeah, I think I would. I would probably go with Thomas from the Saints myself. I would.

I mean, I I like watching him play, I really do. I think he just one of those guys that just can go. Now people say the guy in Atlanta, okay guy, and you know to guy guy in Pittsburgh. At the risk of just repeating the conversation we already had yesterday, but don't you I mean Okay, maybe Amari Cooper can't help the offense. But like for a second or third round pick, don't you think that's a small enough price to be worth it. Oh sure, there's no question it's

worth it. But is it worth it because is it gonna work out? But that's it gonna work out? Because is you get this thing broke because the receiver or is it broke because the scheme? Everything right, everything with with you know, the safety. You knew that he could come in, Oh yeah, play in this system and it was a position of need and he could go in and help these guys. But I don't know about a second rounder for that's for him. I wouldn't and that's why I wouldn't give up a first rounder. But a

second rounder. I mean, I'm gonna risk that on a Jalen Smith or Randy Gregory anyway, and maybe it'll work out. But you get twenty six games out of him bare minimum, or he plays well enough that you extend him your second round pick is worth twelve million dollars. That's true. Actually, I'm not comparing the two because there are obviously two different players. But it's like when you look at a guy like Tavon Austin and all the things that we

talked about him previous to starting playing games. Here, it's like, Okay, you have this guy with these kind of talents and the Cowboys still havn't really used him in a positive way. Are you actually profiting out of it? And I don't think that's a fair comparison. It's not, But I'm just saying, can the Cowboys really utilize a guy like him and take advantage of it? I don't know. You would like to think so, but I don't have a ton of confidence.

Right here's a different question, and I wanted We're running out of time here, but I thought it was pretty interesting. Brian, you talked about Shaun Lee coming back and being a starter this weekend. Here's a question from John through our Twitter account. When fifty returns, how about Shawn Lee as a third quarter defensive adjustment instead of a starter that would preserve his health and give opposing offenses fits. You

think Sean Lee could stand there, sit there for thirty minutes. Yeah, it's like, but you know, and and yeah, actually he runs on the field and pushes the guy just got the second half and half? Was that there a closer named Lee. Yeah, yeahs Bill Lee Lee Smith, Lee Smith.

But regardless of Shaun Lee and what he would want to do and all that, just seeing him as the player that he is, is this something that I would actually sound good to you in doing no hamstrings, hamstring issues, that's you stand there, you sit there for three quarters. Whatever the point he's making, there's something there. It's just not that plan exactly. Yes, utilize him in a different way where you know, and maybe he doesn't start, maybe he's a he's a third down guy, not fourth quarter.

But but you know, the Nickel package and stuff. I think he's onto something. I wouldn't wait that long in the game. You want to get these guys in the flow of the game. I mean Lee's best thirty five plays, that's what I need. All right, Let's not forget his last game he played. He had like eleven tackles in the fifth quarter of the game. I mean, he was on. He was unbelievable. So get those guys out there. I mean, I three guys can can play that condition. This is

a I just talked to Stephen Jones. He said, this is an outstanding problem. That absolutely Oh and we all agree with that we love, all these linebackers that we got going on right now. All right, Well, that is all the time we have for today. Thank you so much, Brian for sure joining us awesome forty five minutes show for Nickimman, David Hellman. I am Amburgarcia. This has been

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