Cowboys Break: Why They Lost

We're locking STUBC Morgage Studios at the Star and we gotta talk to you guys about this Cowboys loss. Cowboys loses Green Bay Packers thirty four twenty four in a game that I'm not even sure the score really reflects all the things that happened in this game, because there were a lot of different parts to the game that are worth discussing. And I think that's where I want

to start today. I think I want to go around the table, and I don't want everybody to tell me coming out of that game, what was the biggest storyline that stood out to you? Because I think there were, again, were a lot of storylines in this game. Let's start first with you, Nick, all right, story of the game, well, I get to write a column about it, so because I could just cheat off of that. But I think for the second straight game they've lost in the opening drive.

The opening drive lost the game for them, and that's that's where it stood. I mean, all these things that happened. If Cooper catches that ball, they're probably gonna go score. Maybe on that play changes the whole game. Same with missing Randall cop in the back of the end zone. You think it's a long game and it's gonna play out, and yes they could have, but as it turns out, I think that that was affected the game. I you're going to me, sure, absolutely. I agree with Nick to

a point. It really like as as much as a game that happened, or a play that happened four plays into it can affect the game. I mean, it's hard to move past just how big that was. Like it's probably a touchdown at the very least, Like the Cowboys are getting some points and then all of a sudden, Green Bay's basically in Cowboy territory. Just a ridiculous swing.

But at the same time, I mean, we're I just can't I can't sugarcoat or overlook Aaron Jones running the ball nineteen times for one hundred yards and catching seven passes for seventy five yards, like he did to them what we were worried Alvin Kamara might do. And I know Aaron Rodgers is a better quarterback than Teddy Bridgewater

and that's going to affect the way you play. But for them to very successfully limit Alvin Kamara's impact in the game a week before on the road and then for like all of that progress to go out the window was really really surprising, baffling. Like the linebackers looked lost, the defensive line looked like it couldn't get any push for the second week in a row against an offensive line, frighteningly bad defense for like the first two and a

half quarters of the game. Amber you know, and I know these teams, the Saints and the Packers have good players and they are able to do things. But at the same time, I feel like a lot of these errors are made by the Cowboys themselves, like they are kind of playing against themselves, making their own mistakes on their own and me saying what I'm about to say,

it's kind of crazy, especially after watching that game. But I am not as upset as I thought I would be, Like I truly feel one that the Cowboys are going to be able to turn things around and make it work. I am more upset at the fact that they played such a crappy game and now we have to talk about it all throughout the week and figure out, Okay, well, Kellen Moore, what the heck are you doing? Okay? Why

is a sequel? Eliot not running the well more? Which one of the things I did expect him to have a bigger presence in the game, And it's kind of surprising that we were five weeks into the season and I still feel like sometimes I forget about Zeke, Like I feel like I don't notice him on the field. And it's crazy to me when you speak about a team that has relied the amount of times that they did last year and now they're trying to rely on the passing game more so, that's kind of mind blowing

to me. But and the fact that we didn't really see Pollard he kind of disappeared as well. They didn't really use him as much. And this was a game that I thought the running game was going to be able to get going but it didn't, so I don't know, it's just a weird I feel just so weird about this team right now. It's like they're trying to figure themselves out and they just haven't clicked just yet. But

I know they will, all right. That was actually there's a lot of stuff there, and you guys hit all of it. That's why I wanted to take it that route, because there was so much in this game that you could take from it. And I think when we all look back on this five, six, seven, eight weeks from now, we probably all will have different reads on what we learned from this particular game, because I think there were a lot of things to learn. So let's unpack a

little bit of this. Let's start first with Dak Prescott. He goes twenty seven to forty four, sixty one percent completion rate, four hundred and sixty three yards, two touchdowns, three interceptions, and then eighty three point eight quarterback rating.

How do you guys in your minds reconcile that performance for Dak Because you look at the four hundred and sixty three yards and you're like, oh my god, that's huge, that's great, But then you also look at the three interceptions, two of which you probably put at least one you definitely put on him, probably two. You say he probably made some bad decisions. How do you reconcile this? I don't have to. He said he played a bad game,

like he threw three interceptions. He says like, I don't care about the yards, I don't care about the touchdowns. That's not gonna get it done. And I completely agree with him. I'm like, cool beings. Really, you mean they did a great job of fighting back into it. That can't happen. And I think anybody who follows my work or what I say knows what a big fan I am of Dak But I thought he played a bad game. The interception to Sullivan over the middle was I mean terrible.

It was a terrible decision. He didn't see him at all. I can't get over the pick he threw in the end zone to Cob that got waved off like there was absolutely nothing there, Just an unconscionable decision by a Pro Bowl quarterback. And you know the dropped picked to Cooper that we already talked about, that is a drop that is on Amari Cooper. At the same time, it was not a great ball, but considering that he was wide wide, wide open um, he didn't play a good game.

He had good stats, he didn't play a good game. That's fine, I mean, I agree with all that, all right. Sorry, it was like he was playing without thinking, Like he was just out there running around throwing the ball, making this without really fully thinking it out. Like I don't know, he was kind of relying more in luck maybe rather I don't even know the right word too. I think he pressed once he realized that the defense was going to I mean, the defense was getting their ass kicked.

I think he really pressed and said I'm going to have to do this, and you know, it helped a little bit, but he was uncharacteristic, but it didn't. It wasn't too long in the game did you realize that they're not going to beat Aaron Rodgers. They're not the only thing that slowed down Aaron Rodgers was the time. You know that once they you know, they started happening. Because if you really look at it, this was week two against the Redskins. I just told this to Rob.

This is the exact same game as the Redskins game. And no one thinks that the Redskin game was really close. They kind of had him, they controlled him. They came back and scored late one by ten, but really that they won. Same with the Packers, they're probably saying the same thing. We kicked their ass. Yeah, they came back, but we won by ten. We won, you know, And

that's really the same type of thing. Yeah, that's a I hadn't thought about that, but you're right, like the Redskins probably thought about that game like, oh, we got back into it, we bought. Anybody that watched that on the Cowboys side is like, no, that's not what happened, and that Yeah, And honestly, you know this, we worked for the Dallas Cowboys. We prefer when they win. That's all obvious. But they didn't deserve to win this game.

And honestly, like, in terms of like being fair, it's probably for the best that Dack through the pick to King and Maher missed the field goal, because like, they don't deserve for this to have been a thirty four to thirty one, Like, oh my god, they were so close.

That's also why those two moments are also the reason why I don't give them a ton of credit for fighting their way back in first of all, I don't give credit for just fighting you way again, because guess what that's like saying I take care of my kids, Like that's your responsibility. You don't get credit for doing what you're supposed to do. The point, though, is they didn't.

Those two moments that in that time when they were trying to fight their way back into the game told me that you still can't get out of your own way. And so it still was a microcosm of what they've done the rest of the game. Yeah, they had success, they moved ball, but they weren't able to get out of their own way. Even in the quote unquote comeback stage of the game, they were still making unforgivable mistakes. Yeah, it was a rough day, all right, So let's move on.

Let's talk about Zeke. You mentioned Zeke, and it's it's ironic that you mentioned him in that way because I was having a conversation with my wife last night and she kind of had a similar take, like where's Zeke, Like he got all this money. I was just expecting the Zeke that's gonna be like blowing up every week, and that's not what we've seen, particularly the last two weeks. Although when you look at the game yesterday, they actually were running the wall pretty well and really well actually

earlier in the game. He ends up with twelve carries for sixty two yards five point two yards per carry, and a touchdown. That all being said, I'm sorry you said. You even said in the press box that when we look back at this game, let's not look at this end of the first half. Member. Yes, I know, like we gotta take these two plays out because he like himself, he's like tomorrow we're gonna be talking about him, and like, remember at the end of the and how many plays

was it was three plays? I want to say three runs yet there and it was probably like maybe twenty five thirty yards, which is probably half of his production. He got twenty one yards on the final possession of the first time. Okay, so those are three carries, right too, I'm looking at two on the flight on the very last that's right, it was too, So two carries for

twenty one yards. Right. You look at that though, and I guess looking at it overall, looking at it overall, do you think the Cowboys are getting from Zeke what they need to get from him, or do you think that there are other factors. Obviously, the game got away from them. They had to get away from the running game. Last week. The offensive line just wasn't performing very well,

and I put a lot of that on them. How much is it those other factors and how much is it d put on deput on Zeke even before the score, like before the score got lopsided. Game starts, Zeke for two, Zeke for twelve, Zeke for twelve, Zeke for six, called back by a penalty, Zeke for seventeen, hauled back by holding. I mean, I understand, I understand how much money they gave the guy, and I guess you know you'd like to see a little bit more. They even they got

him involved in the passing game. He caught a great ball on that wheel route, which you know why on why you know why Aaron Jones is going seven for seventy five and Zeke can't do anything other than catch very basic looking screen passes. I don't know. I don't get why that's a thing. He I mean, and he showed you in this game that he can hurt defenses twenty yards down field, but they're not interested in doing

that for whatever reason. Um, But I don't know, how how much can you expect the running back to get you back into a game that you're trailing by seventeen in the second quarter. I don't put that on him. I thought he was running well when the game allowed for the running game to be part of it. Yeah, I don't really, I don't think. I wasn't talking about like, I'm not taking a shot at you. But but just to make sure it's not his performance as a player

is more as how the Cowboys are utilizing him. Do you think they're underutilizing Yes, it kind of looks to me like it's kind of of a second thought rather than him being the core of this offense. Now they're trying to rely more on the passing game Michael Gallup, but Mary Cooper and when you look at what he was able to do last year, regardless of the offensive line, how they're performing, Zeke is a type of player that can still make plays without the help of other people,

like he can do things on his own. And yesterday, well last night, when I started watching the highlights and back, I'm like, okay, well there was doing these things, you know, but it wasn't something that stands out as you would have expected. Especially with him coming in with a new contract. Yeah. The other thing I'll note real quick was Tony Pollard.

I actually was I'm kind of agreeing with you that they should have used him a little bit more because there was one series where they brought him in and they just kept feeding him the ball. He had four carries from nineteen yards a four point eight average, and it made me think, Okay, sometimes you kind of What it made me think is that overall the Cowboys should

be able to run the ball pretty effectively. They were already doing it early, as you just mentioned, Dave, earlier in the game with Zeke, when Paula came in, he was getting a nice flow going there. It just seemed to me like they had success running the ball with either one of them. They just couldn't do it anymore because the game gout. You know, I'm looking at the stats. I don't agree with the notion that they didn't get

Zeke involved. I'm just I'm looking at him and looking at the play by plays and like, where would it have been any different? I mean, a big, big play in the game was in the second drive. I mean they get down to the thirty seven yard line, they scrambled three yards a second and seven, and Zeke gets stopped for no game and then Dak takes a sack.

They don't get a field goal. You go back to all these possessions and they're running, and they're running well, seventeen yard run and then it gets called back and now they're behind the chains and they throw an interception and then you know, Pollard comes in. But then on the next drive, same Dak. You know, I mean, Zeke, he's running and he's doing well, and then they get another penalty and they lose ten yards and then they

ended up having to settle for fieldball. I mean, I think they were trying, like you keep saying, they just didn't get out of their own way. Yeah, I don't

want to criticize Kellamore too much. I mean, they have five hundred and fifty yards of offense, like he called a pretty good game, Like, yeah, I'm not trying to quibble about that, but I still like the Cowboys are just so rigid and I don't want to say vanilla, but for lack of a better word, like just looking at Green Bay, like you know, Jeronimo Allison, he's carrying

the ball out of the backfield Aaron Jones. His best catch of the game was essentially a slant, like they moved him out wide and put Jalen Smith on him and it was like a mismatch all day. He caught it over the middle. Remember I think it was in the third quarter. You got Marcedes Lewis catching screen passes and the Cowboys. It just feels like it's like this

is our running back. He runs the ball and you don't agree with because when you think about it, and you got you got Zeke wheeling out, you got Tavon Austin pop passing and that was great. You got an option on the goal line for two yards didn't work. But it was different. It was different. I mean I think we I think there were some different wrinkles and there some work, some didn't. I don't know if they have. Yeah,

I feel like, did he do anything. No, I know he missed a block that was important, but oh man, I think it was a run play where he ended up missing a block and got to end up with a tackling back and I have to go back and look at it. But I remember thinking because you had said during the game, so somebody who was asking something about jar when you say it, Kenny even block and and that's what kind of rang to me, like maybe

that was on the show. There was a show like are they you know, is witting like impeding his progress? I was like, well, was he a complete player that they're tied end aren't helping him right now? I mean that's just simple. Obviously Witten's not you know what he was obviously, and I mean he's still doing some things, but they don't have that guy that they want. They're trying to get it done with three people and they

really don't have it. I get you're right. I mean, like I said, they had six hundred yards of offense. I'm quibbling here. But at the same time, even you know, Tavon, he had the nice little pop pass run, but that's that's Tavon's role. They're like, this is our gadget guy. We're gonna do our gadget stuff with him, Whereas sometimes I feel like other offenses are more fluid in the sense that everybody can do a little bit of everything.

And yeah, it was it was refreshing to see Zeke catch that wheel route, But at the same time, I'm like, he can do these things, and yet it feels rare when he does them. Well, first and twenty five. I mean, that's what you call right, first and twenty five, you gotta have a twenty six yard pass. Absolutely. The thing about Tavon and having guys that the gadget players, the problem is is that no one will believe that it's going to happen if you don't put them out on

regular plays. And when he put them out on a regular place to get called for holding and wiping out a seventeen yard run for really no reason. Yeah, to do that because he didn't have the experience to go out there, and I mean he just kind of held. It didn't have to, you know, that's what happened. You can't just put him in the game when you want to do some fake stuff. So all right, let's go ahead and take our first break and we come back. I want to talk a little bit about this defense.

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the Break. Life in the SWBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, we're talking about the Cowboys loss yesterday. They moved to three and two on the season after a three and oh start. Look at some big picture stuff tomorrow and what that really means across the NFL and throughout the NFC East. But let's get back into the game. I want to talk about this defense, Dave. You mentioned it earlier.

Aaron Jones allowed to rush for nineteen nineteen carries for one hundred and seven yards, a five point six average, four rushing touchdowns. In addition to that, he had an additional seven receptions for seventy five yards, bringing his total number of yards for the game to one hundred and eighty two. Why couldn't they stop the run yesterday because they're worried about number twelve. I mean, he is everything. He is one of them. He's the one of the

greatest football players the NFL has ever seen. Aaron Rodgers and no more of this. Well, it doesn't have weapons. He makes weapons. He makes them great. You can't you can't tackle him, you can't get to him, and you're worried about everything that he's doing. He knows how to how to make it work. And you know, they had ten days to hear that they can't run the ball. They can't run the ball, and they figured out ways to run it, run it down by the goal line.

Their offensive line was really good. But it all starts with Aaron Rodgers. He is absolutely the closest thing to Luke Skywalker that the NFL has ever seen. In my opinion, It's funny because the Cowboys made so many mistakes in this game that it's easy to forget about the Jedi stuff Rodgers was doing. In the first and second quarter, he made three plays that are I mean, like maybe one other person in the world can do him, and

that's probably Pat Mahomes. But the little shovel pass when it looked like it was going to be a negative play, and when he stepped, I mean he escaped the pocket and I think it was Tanyan on the sideline just lofted it to him. And the thing about that was is that he doesn't see the blue line of scrimmage that we see, like that you see on the on the tape, you know, like when you're watching the game.

Obviously he doesn't have that, but it feels like he knows it, like you know, like he's running and he just kind of stops right at the last second because he's like, oh, I'm about to go over the line, like he just feels that and then makes that great throw. Even still, and like I said, I'm positive that the skill of the quarterback plays a role in that, Like you're gonna play that differently than you're gonna play Teddy Bridgewater most likely I get that, but still still they

got bullied. My main impression is Antoine Woods is a good football player, but he is not so good that he's going to magically fix this, which means they got they got some work to do. So where are the problems out? Which I think name a guy in the front seven? We go here, we go? Well, someone someone mentioned this to me and showed me a clip, and then I went back to watch several plays to see if it was true or not. But this whole what

the revs are doing. I know that's a whole another topic here, but if you notice what Green Bay's defensive line was doing the right tackle, he would wait for the center to kind of lift up his head and before he spiked the ball, he would just be doing a false start every single time, and he was never called. And you could go and I watched multiple plays and he would do it every single thing. He was He was backing out before the ball was actually flore and

he was never called. And I'm like, are you which side did you tell the left tackle, right, How did it make it get onto our show? There's some irony there because the point is the I'm saying it goes both ways, and I'm I'm sorry, and you're you know what. On the on the last like we were down on the field the last Packers possession, I noticed that. I was like, bulag is clearly early. But that's not why

the defensive line got pushed around. No, no, no, I'm not saying all day, I'm not saying that would have changed the game whatsoever. But it's still frustrated, especially when you get guys on your own old line that are maybe called for holding or this and that, and it's just any just when you see that the other team is not getting called for certain things that your team does get called on, it's frustrated. Well, when you guys were in middle school and Mark Colombo was playing here,

who's ironically the old high school? Oh eight college? Okay, okay, anyways, young Mark Colombo did that his entire career, His entire career was a half second early than the snap. He just was. I mean, I'm not saying that it's okay, but it just happens. I just i's the linebackers were terrible,

is what. I don't know what's going on with with the howling and the swiping and all that, but but it's not happening enough because they're not making enough plays and Jalen Smith and Layton vander Esh, I mean, let's call it like it is. When they played terrible the running, I mean, when they were not good against the Rams

in the playoffs. Antoine Woods wasn't there. But whatever, um they they're not when they're not on and they're getting bullied around, this defense isn't that good and so that's a that's a problem. Bullied aren't playing well. Confused. I mean they they lost contain yeah, six different times. And I mean the bye bye touchdown where Aaron Jones was waving at Byron Jones again, like the whole defense got sucked inside and it's an easy walk in. And that

happened more than once. Uh. And it happened inside as well, where guys were just not getting in their fits. Like you could you could see where the defense was flowing, and you could see right in the gap where somebody should have been and whether it was a linebacker of safety, nobody, nobody fit there. Malie Malie Collins is off to a good start this season, but he did not have a good game yesterday. Does Crawford come back stop? That's harsh? Didn't He made a play the first series, first series

of the game where it was Quinn. I really thought he was he was dealing with bologging getting off early. That was Lawrence was doing that. And Lawrence was fighting linebackers and tight ends all day too. Oh, he was doubled in triple teams. They several times they had a very good plan for how to deal with the pass rush. And honestly, like they had a very good plan. They have very good offensive tackles. They have a quarterback who can get rid of the ball. I know Rodgers likes

to hold it, but he can. And I still thought the pass rush was pretty good all things considered, Like there were several plays where they forced him to get rid of it. They sacked him twice, Like this wasn't twenty fourteen where Aaron Rodgers on one leg was just standing back there all day like they made him uncomfortable. It was. I mean, but the run defense is it just was? It was a killer. I will say this too.

There were also times in that game where where there they were actually max protect They would keep back, yeah, two extra guys in some instances just to be able to double both those guys on the outside, and they still were completing passes, which you would think in that kind of situation when you got more guys back there covering, you ought to be able to make a stop, and they just weren't. Again, that goes to the brilliance of the quarterback. When a receiver gets open and he can

just drop it right into a pinpoint accurate place. It doesn't matter if you've got guys around him, They're still going to complete the pass. And that's what they were doing now. And the frustrating thing is not only is this team lost two straight games, but they lost one last week with the team's best player on the sideline. This time they lost with the team's best skill player, you know, on the sideline with Davante Adams out. So it's you know, they're catching breaks, but they haven't taken.

When you allow fourteen points in the first quarter, I mean, yeah, that is hard to just come back from. Would you guys, would you guys take away the turnovers, nix that part of it, but would you take green Bay's offensive performance. Like, I'm You're going into a game against Green Bay and I tell you they're gonna go for three thirty five, are gonna run for one hundred and Rodgers is gonna throw for two thirty, gonna go three of twelve on

third down, They're gonna score thirty four points. You take that. The thirty four points is still a problem. Thirty four points is still a problem. But again, I mean consider the opposition, and I know Davante Adams isn't there, but but but I was saying last week, if you, I guess my point is, if you play a cleaner game I eat, don't lose the turnover battle three to nothing, then I problem. I'm like, yeah, I'll take that. I will take that performance and see where it gets me.

I just I don't think the Cowboys even going into the game, I didn't think the Cowboys gonna shoot out. If you're getting up in the thirty range, I think the Cowboys lose that kind of game because again, that means, in my opinion, that means that Aaron Rodgers would not have an opportunity with thirty seconds plus anything. At thirty seconds, I don't think they win that game because Aaron Rodgers figures out a way to get it done and win the game. So I just think, you know, a shootout

like that, I think is favoring him. But when more than if you keep them down to twenty points or sixteen points away. I'm being dumb right now because you can't take away the turnovers. But if you don't lose the turnover battle three nothing, then it's probably more like twenty four twenty seven points instead. Let me ask you this, do you think there was a point in the game, particularly in the first three quarters where the Packers, where

this defense was stopping the Packers. They didn't start stopping them until it was thirty winds right, And that's my point. So even if even if you didn't have the turnovers, they weren't stopping them. They were, yeah, the first job, but they really weren't stopping them most of the day. I think I said that yesterday. Actually, I was like, you forced two punts in the first half, Like that's a win against Aaron Rodgers as far as I'm concerned.

But your offense has to do something with it. And if they had remotely done anything with it, you're maybe talking seventeen fourteen or fourteen ten at halftime instead of seventeen nothing, and it's a completely different game, you know. And also you know they called a fumble and Layton picks it up and then they go back and you know that that was a really weird exchange there for

the officials and the rules and all that kind of stuff. That, um, you know, I think the Cowboys, you know, missed a big opportunity there because it looked like it was a fumble. Jerry Jones actually, like Jerry Jones gave Rogers credit for that, which I wasn't completely ready to do, but maybe you should. Is like, you know, he's that smart that he kind of made it look like a pass when maybe but

that's smart, man. Yeah. But the NFL needs to fix that problem because that was that's a rule thing that the NFL needs to go in and they need to be able. What do you mean by that, Well, they're they're trying to call it a fumble because they don't want to call it in complete on that so that if it looks close, they're going to call it a fumble and give the Cowboys a chance to get the fumble.

Then I can blow the whistle dead. I understand that the problem here is is that when they go back and reviewed it, they're obviously calling it a fumble, so they're not going to call it intentional grounding because they didn't call it a pass. They called it a fumble. But when they're reviewing it and they see that he throws it down like that and it doesn't get to the line of scrimmage, that that's in that that should

be intentional grounding. Let me ask you this though, and somebody brought this up because I initially agree with you that it should have been intentional grounding. Somebody brought this up on Twitter and made me think twice about that. Though. The fact that he got his hand hit has to batter for something, doesn't it, Because if he gets his hand hit, then the reason why it didn't get to the line of scrimmage is because he got his hand hit right, So it doesn't make it a fumble, still

makes an incomplete pass. But the fact that he was throwing and throwing in the direction of a of a receiver, I don't know if they would have called intentional grounding on that even if it was incomplete. Because of all that, I can't I can't bring myself to care about any of this when they did so much stupid stuff in very true. I mean, we haven't talked about the Garrett penalty. We're going there. Twenty total flags. I thought it was about as bad of a job refereeing a game as

I can remember seeing twenty total for the whole. Yeah, still don't care. I still don't care about any of that because most of the others about twenty eight, most of them, a lot of them got pulled, you know, to call yea. All right, let's take our final break, let's come back. I do want to talk about Jason Garrett and his moment yesterday, a moment that most fans probably were I don't know. Maybe they're excited to see what we'll talk about that when we come right back.

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kind of just lost it. And that's not something most people are used to seeing Jason, nor nobody's really used to seeing Jason doing it. Was Actually, I actually like to see that Jason Garrett. I actually have seen I've seen video of Jason being a lot more animated in some of his team meetings, and I've always said to a lot of people around here, I really want more opportunities to show that because I don't think fans really know the side of him that a lot of us

who've seen some of those videos. No, but that moment was was pretty good, but it did cost his team. Talk a little bit about what happened and what you guys found out after the game. I know there is a pool reporter that can go and talk to officials to find out clarity on certain calls. Talk to me about what you guys found. Abusive language was what the referee said, That's what it was. Jerry said about that. Yeah, yeah, what Jerry said. And there's there's a whole other part

of it too, which it did not It wasn't anyways. Yeah, I was, I would say it. I was just really hoping. I'm glad that he was referring to the ref who called it and not the female ref. Because that was the case, then we have a bigger problem on our hand. That's That's not what Jerry said at all. But I have some insight about some things that happened a little earlier than that that led to it. Overall, I thought, um, you know, it was Jason. There was his emotion, and

you know, I don't necessarily agree with that. I don't think the officials should have done that, but when you go back and look at what happened probably the hour before, that makes sense. Well, I was trying to let everyone get involved. Sorry I didn't seen you. Remember when I said it in the press box, I was like, this guy stopped the game to go and tell Jason to get back. Remember that he Jason was kind of down there like that. He stops the game and tells Jason

to get back. They were going at it beforehand, and then on the past interference that he was challenging. He was thinking about challenging with UM thirty eight and thirty brown. You could see on the broadcast he's like, then do it, throw it? Then throw it. He's like, he's like baiting Jason, like throw it. So he's like, you know, he's just kind of like mocking him. So he throws it, and then of course it doesn't happen. And that's what he was mad about because the way the rules are set up,

once you miss one challenge, you've only got two. So he has to waste this challenge when he says he clearly caught it in front of him, which I don't know how clear it was, but they said it was clear to them down there on the sideline. They I'm sure they had a nice view of it, and I don't think anybody else in that stadium definitely thought it was a catch. Well, you know why, you know why the moment we noticed it is when you see the black flakes popping up because he's dragging that second foot.

When you're on the sideline, you immediately see those little pebbles popping up, So for them, they probably probably away, which it also happened five feet away from the ref so right, that's my point. I get Garrett's frustrated, which you know, I thought that was stupid for years. I'm I'm a big college football fan. Their system is better. They just review, They review everything that's close. The only problem, and I firmly believe this. It makes the game drag

out forever college football games take foot. How fans care about it? That's my point the fight. The NFL cares. The NFL cares more about games being short and the broadcast windows. If the fans don't care, I just don't see the point. It's a it's a stupid system. It sucks that at Yeah, I mean, you got to throw a challenge flag to the gate. The referee's mistakes there again, the refs were atrocious yesterday for both sides. I like

college football system. And here's here's why that that really mattered because yeah, they got first and twenty five, they got twenty six. On the next play they went and scored. But that you know, the third interception when Gallup was going in gets his helmet pulled twice in one play, which is maybe a record. I mean, and Dak throws it shouldn't have thrown it whatever. But Garrett throws the challenge flag there and says, you missed PI big time

and they're gonna they're gonna overturn that one. And so now now you're sitting at midfield down fourteen the game. You know now that we really might have a game. But that's why all of those things kind of played in, which is bad. I guess Mickey made this point on talking I saw on Twitter, is if if the refs don't bungle that, then Garrett's still got a challenge on the gallop king pick and you could conceivably apparent ye could conceivably challenge that. They wouldn't have won new splash

because they don't overturn it. But you could have at least used it anything the previous thirty seconds, Like what were you doing in the previous three seconds of when I just say all that just now? But damn, I would you look at that? I was looking through. But what I said is they would get it. You don't think so, No, you don't think that the ref looking that that sees that, the him pulling him his head down twice and not going to call that. They haven't

have they overturned one call all year seven seven. Yeah, I haven't seen one in all the football I've watched some pretty egregious ones. I saw heading into the weekend's game, it was like twenty six, and they've they've done seven overturned. I think they would have done that one, especially after they just you know, screwed them and called a palmty. I think they would have given them that one. Yeah,

I don't think so. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen anything in all of the NFL football that I've watched this season that suggests that they would have done it, because I think they ref's care more about preserving their own egos and reputations than admitting when they're wrong. So I don't know, Sid, because everyone watches the TV and sees exactly what happened, so it's like, no, you're not. I mean, yeah, you're getting away within the game, but

you're still being called. I think the point of them, I think the point of them changing that rule this year was too overturn egregious situations. And I do think

you can make the argument that that was egregious. I kind of agree with Dave that it's got to be really egregious, like the chances that they overturn them a small because it has to be a situation where it's so egregious that they look at and they say, hey, this is so big that we have to overturn it because we don't want to have another situation like what happened with the psych If you bull ahead a guy's head down once in a play, yeah, if you do

it twice in the same play, then egregious egregies. Yeah, that's what that is. Yeah, But either way, the point is thrown either way. Either way, the point is it did affect Jason's ability to at least get it on record that this was a bad call and allowed them the opportunity to be able to correct it. And he didn't have that because the ref missed the call and

then he throws his flag. Maybe because on the Anthony Brown one, I think it's well maybe I think it's funny that you know, it was a third down, right, Anthony Brown, Yeah, no, that's first down, But it was

thirty nine yard penalty. I've seen. I've seen so many instances over the years of just watching football games where a player completely loses his cool gets a flag for unsportsmanlike conduct and it's you know, We're talking about it Monday as like the reason why they lost the game, and it just it's funny to me, like it speaks to how like stoic and even keeled Jason is with the clapping and the not getting fired up that like he cost his team, and like everybody was thrilled about it.

Everyone was like, finally, finally you act mad in a situation where it seems warranted and everybody else is mad. You ought to be mad too. But you know, if that had happened to a cornerback then we would be killing him right now. And I'm really glad that it was because he said something, because you know, I was in the press box. I was like this, you were living, well, no, you were living about the fact that he would throw

the flag. I thought he was. He was getting shown like he was mad that he kind of showed him up right, But yet his flag hit the scoreboard like he threw it as high as he possibly could to show, oh no, you didn't, you know, and throws it up there like that. But it was he must have called him something him. Yeah, it was a bolder m. I approved. I approved, Wait, you approve of what? Whatever? Gant said his face looked like the flag. I mean, he he was mad. He had that red emoji. Won it was.

It was a nice change of pace, like the fact that Jason doesn't get super emotional on the sideline doesn't bother me the way it bothers a lot of people. But it was still kind of fun to see him like he had reached his breaking point. Everybody just wants Bill Cower, you know, let's go. But I mean, Tony Dungee,

it worked, Tom Landry, it worked. I mean, you know, everyone's got their own way and get I guarantee you those guys when they were behind closed door, they got to get with their team when they need to get with their teams. And we saw it on that TV show a couple of years ago. Like if you watched All or Nothing, then you know Jason Garrett has a little more fire to them than what people want to give them credit for. You all right, quick show, that is that's what we will do. What we will do.

I still need to get into special teams. We'll talk about that tomorrow because there were some significant things from the special. We didn't even talk about Brett Maher we did not, but we will tomorrow. So it makes you tune in tomorrow at eleven forty five, our normal time until then for Nick Even, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been the Break live on Dallas

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