Cowboys Break: Who You Taking?

latest edition of The Break. We are presented by Geico and we were alive from the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. We got a lot to talk about today. Tomorrow we'll be the NFL Draft, and so we're gonna get you guys ready for that. We're gonna go through each position and talk about what the Cowboys could use and uh and where we think they may use some of their picks and um, and just go up the

whole thing. Get you guys ready. We'll by the end of the show, we will nail these guys down on who who they think the Cowboys will pick with their first pick and um, and make sure that you guys are ready for the draft tomorrow. All right, So first we didn't need to talk a little bit about Sean Lee yesterday he makes the announcement, or at least as the press conference where Sean made the formal announcement that

he is retiring from the NFL. My first question for you guys is just if you were going to wrap up Sean's career and like what your thoughts are in his career and what he meant to this team, what would it be. Let's start with you, Nick. He was a really good player. That's that's where I think he was. I mean, he could have been better had he played longer and been on the field more. He missed fifty

eight games. That's that's almost four years of games really, and so you know, he could have made more Pro Bowls probably, um, you know, and then then he would would be talking about you know, Ring of Honor and maybe more than that, but not likely. But I mean, just could have had more had he been on the field more. But when he was on the field, he

was one of the better linebackers they've ever had. I think, you know, Jason Witten gets a lot of credit for this, and rightfully so, but I just you know, Shan Lee is just you know, if you want to see how a professional football player operates, That's what I think of when I think of shan Lee. Just a consummate professional.

He gets a lot of credit for grinding tape, but um, you know, just the way he conducts himself in general, like all business, all business, and when he needs to be a surprisingly fun guy when he doesn't when it's not business time, but like you know, when when it's time to get down to business. I don't think there was anybody who was more about his business than shan Lee. Um. I think he one of the better players of the Jason Garrett era and would have been even better if

not for bad luck with injuries. Um, if I had to guess, yeah, like I don't. I don't think he makes the Ring of Honor, which is unfortunate because if he'd been healthier, I think he would have. Yeah, but like right right there on that borderline, and definitely from you know, the time that I've covered the team, which is twenty thirteen, I think, you know, twenty ten to now, I think he's one of the best handful of players that this team had when he was available. He is

pretty close to perfect in my eyes. In my eyes. I mean, he's exactly everything that you would want a player to be minus the injuries. Of course, everyone knows that that's what has affected him the most during his whole career. But other than that, I mean, god, just everything about him. I mean, he has leadership in him. He's a guy that you can truly see how much he cares about the team and how good of a

teammate he is. And he proved that when Leyton got here, and like to me, I was curious to see how that was gonna work out, but no, he did not feel like anything. He was there and he helped Layton and did not feel you know, a different story. But like, for example, what happened when Dad got here and Tony got hurt and kind of how that dynamic was very different as to what shan Lee's dynamic was when Layton got here and and Shanlee wasn't able to be on

the field. So I just I admire Shawn Lee and uh, and it really sucks because he's definitely a guy that puts in the work and it's just very unfortunate that he suffered through so many injuries. But he just you know that it wasn't because he didn't try. He tried his best when he gave everything he could. For sure, we say this a lot. I think the big thing, one of the biggest things that would surprise fans is how many guys in the NFL don't like love football.

You know, some of these guys it's a job or they're just really good at it. It's a means to an end, to you know, be you know, get what they want out of life. That's not shan Lee. That like Shan Lee is that guy who like eats breeze, sleeps football. It's all he wants to do. It's all he wants to talk about. Um. Not everybody in an NFL locker room is like that, but he definitely wants. Yeah,

my favorite Sean Lee story. I was trying to think about some you know, like, what's my Shawn Lee story other than when he uh walked up our stairs with us with you forgot about that? Yeah that was awesome. Um, well, I'll just say it. I mean it was Brian that brought us and he put his jersey on and walked up with the cake and I think he even said something he was like I heard it. Somebody's birthday. Yeah, like he can play along and all that, but but

I remember his rookie year. We did the back when we did the train from Oxnard down to San Diego for a preseason game, and um we he was his his rookie season and I was like, gonna do an interview with him, and the PR was trying to set up an interview with him, so I was like, Okay, I'll do it on the train. And so it's the day before the game and this his rookie year, and he's like, nah no, I can't do it. I have to watch tape. And I was like what, Like, what

is that like the day before the game? You know, you rookie year. And I thought, well, one of two things. Either he's already figured out how to get away from doing media interviews, or two he really is just that focused in doing stuff. And I think it's a combination of both. I think he kind of didn't love talking to the media, but he did it. But he also he was just a study er and that was happening since since day one. I wish more people were like

him on the team. His preferred cleats stopped being made like a long time ago, and he used to like him, and the equipment staff would like scour any website that sold sporting goods just so he could get this whatever. I don't even know the model, but like he had to have this cleat and so like anytime if he could get the equipment guys to find a pair on sale, or if he saw him somewhere like just buy him whatever. I don't care, Like I don't care how much they cost.

He just had to have that certain like the attention to detail, just the stuff that he thought about. I just it cracks me out. I would love to know if that was a shoe that was like back from the nineteen fifties or sixties, it was it was like a twenty eleven Air Max or so, I don't know if it wasn't. Yeah, I don't know what it was, but he he was like, I need I need my leads, and I'll do what I gotta do to get him.

It'd be such a great story though, if it was like these nineteen seventy pair of shoes, and because I kind of got yeah, you know that kind of thing, it would feel really great if that was it. Um, So, does this in your opinions change anything about how the Cowboys should be addressed, addressing the draft or even free agency as you head towards the summer. With the retirement of of Shan Lee from a linebacker standpoint, no, because I don't think he was really going to factor in

much anyways. But um, you need to get somebody in there. And I asked the question yesterday and I didn't really mean it to sound like Dak wasn't the leader. I'm really talking about more about defense. Who's your leader on defense? I mean, you know, is it d Law? I mean it needs to be because Sean Lee from a vocal standpoint, Tyron Crawford, Shaun Lee. They need to get some guys

with some leadership abilities in here. And it's hard to do that as a rookie, but you know, if you're if you're a good player, you can come in and do it. So I think I think that would be something that if it works out, they need to get some guys that have leadership qualities. I think whether fans like it or not, or whoever likes it or not, I think if you ask those guys in the locker room, I think they would probably say it's Tank and it's

Jayalen the two leaders of that defense. Wouldn't you say yeah, but throw in Layton? I thought it was interesting. I mean, Sean lifted off a bunch of guys when he was asked about leaders on the team last year. But he did say Trey von Dix, which I thought was interesting. He did, he said, I mean, he said Trey, but who who else would he be talking about? Yeah, I don't know, um, so I thought that was interesting, but yeah, I mean, thank jaal Layton. He did say, yeah, he

said a couple of names that kind of. I was like, Okay, it almost got to the point where if you didn't if you didn't mention, she didn't list you off, what are you might have been a problem. Well to answer. I thought about that a little bit because I've been sitting here this whole time, thinking that Sean was maybe waiting to see what they did in the draft, like, you know, if they get a top one hundred linebacker, sorry, it's not in the cards. If it doesn't work out

that way, sure we'd love to have you back. And I you know, I don't want to assume too much, but maybe it was really, you know, in the cowboy's minds, that was never really a thing. And I think, you know, Sean mentioned his you know, his loyalty to the organization. They did so much for him, They helped him through so many injuries. I bet he. I mean, if he was just determined to play, I have to believe that there would there's a deal out there for him somewhere.

But you know, and I don't want to speak for him, but maybe he'd know better to retire a cowboy and not worry about that, which I thought was pretty admirable, and he's done stuff like that throughout his career. But you know, with all due respect to him, not having him here, I don't think it affects too much. Linebacker was something they needed to worry about regardless of whether he was here. People have talked about him being a coach for a long time. Is that what you expect

to be next for him? I don't know it has to be. I mean, we just got done talking about him being so passionate about the game and loving the game so much, and I know he's hinted at it a few times before, and everyone has talked about it. I mean, I don't think there would be anyone that would be like, oh no, he would suck as a coach.

He seems like someone who would be a really, really good coach, and we've seen him when with his peers, you know, the way that he's out there on the field and he helps other people's other guys out on the field. So I think he would really be a great coach. But I'm glad that he didn't jump into saying he was gonna do that in yesterday's press conference, and that he did say that he's gonna take his

time and take some time away. So that's good that he's not like rushing into it, and it's good to hear from Jerry Jones that he's open to, you know, basically said that the doors are open and he's welcome back,

which Mike McCarthy's kind of said that as well. It was like it was sort of hidden in one of his answers, but he was like, you know, until a day where we see Sean in the building again or something like, you know, not didn't offer him a job during the press conference, but he's sort of alluded to the thought that that would be something he'd be open to.

But I agree with you. I was almost relieved to hear that Sean say like, I'm going to take some time and sort of decompress and close this chapter of my life, because that, I to be blunt, I don't I don't always think that's healthy when a guy just jumps right into it right away. You got a process.

You know, you were a football player for twenty five years and and and you know, Sean Lee is definitely sad about retiring, Like, take some time, just reflect, and it'll be there for you in a year or two years or whenever you want to do it. Well, they always say, like, you know, if you're if you're a player, you know you could go into coaching. It's like, man, those are some long hours there. You know, it's not just an easy thing. But for him, I mean he's

already been like that. He's been a guy that's that's been you know, studying the tape and film for hours upon hours, and so I don't think that would be a huge transition like it would be to other players. That's true. And I don't want to speak for Sean Lee, but like I can imagine his wife being like, really, like, you don't want to take any time before you go

into like having these eighteen hour days. Yeah, yeah, That's the hard part is you know, I would think for his family, they probably his wife would probably want him to take a little time, just to spend a little time, right, you know, after all these years of putting football first. Yeah, my only question would be, and it's it's tricky when you are a player. I mean, you're not a coach. You can be a leader and all that and try to lead by example, but if they don't follow, then

they don't follow. And that's what I would worry about a little bit, is that, Okay, well Layton maybe followed that path, doesn't seem like all the other linebackers did and did exactly what he did, and not just linebackers, the other defensive lineman and all that. So there's not a lot of people that we hear about that are doing what Sean Lee does. So if you're gonna be a coach, you just you hope you can get that message across him. Maybe it's easier as a coach than

than as a peer. Well, as a coach, you could hold him accountable, right, It's a little different as a player. It's hard to hold guys accountable, right, That's when you want the coach to hold them account. That's exactly right, all right, doesn't seem like it always happened. Well, I was there, I wasn't there, so I can't say that. But yeah, I would think that the coach should be

the one that's going to hold him accountable. Right, I don't think it's I don't it's I don't think you're I mean there's I think there's a leadership vacuum on that defense right now, and maybe Jalen and tent can step into it, you know, And you know, you think about Jason Witten talked a lot about that when his career was ending, of like, well, it's not my team anymore, even though I'm the sixteen year vet. You know, I

gotta let Dak and Zeke and not. I don't think there was any tension between Sean Lee and those guys, but just it's different when he's just gone, as opposed to still being on the team but having a lesser role. And maybe, you know, somebody there is gonna say I'm the guy now. I mean, DeMarcus Lawrence is one of the three longest tenured players. Who is it. It's well, you've lost your top three ten and tenured guys. It's Tyron, Zach and DeMarcus. I believe, like I mean, Tyren, Tyrn

still ancient. Tyrant is number one, still ancient. But I mean, like the guys from the twenty fourteen draft class are the longest tenured players here. Yeah, I know it may Iron twenty eleven. Yeah, and then Zach DeMarcus. I'd have to look to see who's after that. I think Randy was Nick. Randy's one of them. You're right game now, of course, yeah, no, yeah, I mean we're talking about years on the roster, are years years in the organization.

But because when you when you're talking about games played, I bet you Dak and Zeke are right in there in the top five. Yep, I would have Anthony Brown. Maybe it's weird, man, It's it's weird. It's a young team. It's a very young team. You think from that team, well, and then I'll just they lopped off all those guys that were hanging around, I mean, Chris Jones LP now, Sean Lee Crawford, Tyrone Crawford, like, yes, a lot of years. Tyrone is the which I started in April of twenty thirteen.

Tyrons the last guy on the team who was here before me. That makes me feel real weird. I know, I don't know. I don't want to hear it from y'all. I know, come again, I know I've seen a lot of them come and go. I get it, I get it. All right, you're getting old day, I know you are. I hate it. Where's the gray? Oh it's there if you look. And more my hair than my beard. But anyway, all right, we're gonna take our first break when we come back, We're gonna jump into draft talk. We're gonna

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Dallas Cowboys dot Com slash Draft Pick Challenge. Basically, just try to get as many picks right as you can. Here you go, all right, appreciate you joining us. We're back. It's our second segment of the Breakelock in SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star, presented by Geico. Let's jump into some draft talk. Here's what I want to do. I'm gonna have a series of question for you guys that we'll go through for each position. We're gonna start first

with the quarterback position. My first question for you is if you were to rate their need at this position, ten being it is absolutely necessary, one being don't need it, don't want it. Where would you rank the quarterback position? Davis are with you? Six? Yeah? I mean I think the two guys, the two main guys behind Dak have started to combined games. And you have Cooper Rush, who has been in the league for a long time and hasn't really had an opportunity. I want to say, an opportunity,

just hasn't shown anything. Um. I know, Garret Gilbert looked awesome against Pittsburgh, and it it doesn't convince me that you shouldn't You should always be trying to get better at quarterback. Mike McCarthy said that yesterday. Um, I think a J. McCarron is the best thing resembling a veteran option left on the free agent market. So okay, three. Then I was gonna say, or you said six, ten is being the ten? Is you really wanted? You need nine? Oh wow,

I thought six was only high. Yeah, gotta get one now if thy J. McCarron's your best quarterback, I mean basically since Alex Smiths retired, I mean most of the guys who have started games in the league are signed or retired. Yeah, I want somebody better than Denuci. I want to draft someone better than Denuci, and um, probably gonna keep Garret Gilbert. I'm probably gonna go with three quarterbacks if you're not getting a quarterback early though, or

you're gonna get anybody as better than Benji Ben d Nucci. Yeah, feel pretty certain on that. Yep. I would there are guys in this draft that you can get. Yeah better. I hate a dog Ben d Nucci. I mean, he did what he could behind a terrible offensive line, But Ben d Nucci was a fringe pick. I mean, seventh round, one of the last guys taken like, there are guys

with probably more natural ability. I think you could find and give me a guy that that's played, you know, in crowds that are more than like fifteen thousand, you know, for what I'm asking him to do right now. And don't throw the Tony Ramo thing at me, because I don't think the Cowboys are gonna let this guy sit for four years before he actually plays in a game. So I do think that the moment was so big for him on Setain, Why wouldn't it be Sunday Night

football against the Eagles. You've never played other than James Madison. No preseason games, um, you know, and and the Nucci might be better if you get some preseason games in there. But I think that you have a chance to get somebody. I would fifth round just seems like it's it's it'd be doable. He got ten picks, Yeah, I think you one Camber's earliest pick you'd use on a quarterback. Well, I feel like I'm completely opposite these two guys. I'm like,

I would put it out like three or two. As far as if we're specifically looking at the draft, if it was free agency, I would probably rate it higher for someone that has experienced but especially after we went down through looking at each draft every year and stuff. Once you start getting into that area of the draft, like Nick was saying, fifth round round there, I mean, it's like completely hit or miss. You just don't know.

So honestly, I'm I would rather spend that on a defensive player than on a quarterback, especially after signing Dak Prescot. And again, we don't know what could happen. We don't know if he can reinjure himself or any of that. But I'm okay with I'm not gonna say I'm okay, but I would rather see Garrett Gilbert than bring someone in from the draft and expect that guy to be any better than the previous guys that they brought him. Bendy Neucchi, Cooper Rush and so what are all these

other names? All really forgot? These other guys from the No no, no, from the past guys yeah later later I don't remember that either. I thought you meant the guys on the team. No, no, no no, I'm saying, like the Bendy new is a Cooper Rush, those types of guy, Mike, why, yeah, you just they you just forget about this who was draft pick. But I'm not sp it's not guaranteed to work here. Yeah, I mean we're two point zero who

started at Texas went to Smuch. Yeah, he's one of the guys on my list because the thing like, they there's no way they can touch a quarterback on the first two days they got four picks. They got too much other stuff to do Saturdays the day. So you're out on Kyle Trask, You're out on Kellen Mond, You're out on obviously the big guys, like those guys are all gonna be gone. So I think I'd rather take Ellinger than take Buscheks. That's honestly, Philippe. Franks would be

a good spot here for the Cowboys I got. I got no love for Arkansas, but I would like that pick a lot, I really would. And he's got Florida guy, he's both You're right, I don't I got a Florida either. The second fastest forty time among quarterbacks, which shocks me because I watched him play lest year. Which shocks me is that he actually made forty yards without falling down like Franks is. They's not smooth with the run, but he's big six what six six six, big guy. He's

got a cannon arm, good attitude, all that stuff. He's got all the intangibles. Yeah, he's not a great decision maker. Uh he likes to he's a he's kind of a yolo ball guy. But like that's why you sit behind pro quarterbacks and develop. Yeah. So, I mean, if they could get him in the fifth or sixth round, I'd be all four. I think we're all on the same I mean, fifth or six would be good. But she's not me, I said syphically. I am not on the

same page. I was about to say. Bis. She said if it didn't happen, it wouldn't lead off Sports Center that the Cowboys didn't draft a quarterback. Good point. So if it did, it probably would. So I mean, even if they don't get one, you're gonna get You're gonna pick up some free agent. So they're gonna get a rookie. We're not gonna finish this if we spend we just spent ten minutes on the quarterback, Well yeah, we'll move on to the next position. Let's go to running back.

What's the knee ten to one three? I put it. I just I only say that just in my opinion, Amber is going to disagree with this because she like, She's like, give me good players that will bank make the team better right now at every spot day three. You got six picks on day three. If you like the guy, pick him, doesn't matter. I don't care. Like, yeah, they got needs. But if a running back that shouldn't be there is there, draft him, I don't care. So I say three, you got Zeke, you got Tony and that.

And even if you're worried about Zeke's contract, he's here for two years. Tony's here for two years. This is not something you need to worry about right now. But if there's a player you like, do it. That's no. Yeah. See, Amber's like, what are you talking about? You guys are crazy. I mean this is on defense, not freaking offense. We just basically say, until we get to the defensive side

of the ball, leave them alone. You're like, I'm at I mean, okay, realistically, I'm looking at okay, this year, this specifically year, who's gonna be playing on the field. And I get it, we saw it last year, how many injuries happened and the crazy things that can happen. But at the same time you got Ezekiel Tony Polar. You know those guys are not getting off the field. For you to throw in a guy that you drafted in the fifth round or sixth round, it's whatever. So

I'm not I'd rather spend all those pick. I need every single pick on defense, mostly unless unless there is this tight end that we keep hearing about. I won't be that mad if that was to happen. But otherwise, everything else, I'm spending it on defense or an offensive line player. This is which I get it. I hear you, and I know a lot of people share that opinion. But like that's that's the great frustration of the two different fews of the draft. Like Bradley and I played defense.

They got him way after anybody thought they could. Last year, he didn't play like one. Once you get to Day three, all bets are off. Just take the best player. I don't care what position he plays. I mean, because odds are he's not going to get on the field anyway, even if he plays a position that you need. I'll guarantee you this. In assuming they take ten players, I guarantee you that they do not take more than six defensive players. It'll be six to four. If it's not

five to five, it won't be seven to three. Defense. I could see it. It just depends on how it falls. I don't know. I agree. I agree with you for the most part, though six to four maybe you never nobody's ever just like ten to nothing now or nine to one now, it'll be they'll take. I mean, I think you kind of do need to look at running back. So I'm gonna say like five there because really, yeah, because where do they fit? What will they fit right now? Well,

I mean, it depends what they can do. But I think you're gonna get a more well rounded player, not a specialty polar guy, a poor Man Zeke type of back. And uh, you know, I don't know's I'm not going way back in the draft, but I'm looking at a Marian Barber type guy in the fourth fifth round that that had to split carries and so that maybe he didn't get as much stats, but you know, for game or two he can do it and he'll show you some things. And you know, you like you love to

see those guys in preseason as well. Um, but but that might be what you have, Enrico Daddle. I mean I'm not not really sure, So I mean, I don't know. I'd say if I say that, I bet they draft a running back, but I don't think. Again, it's not like a huge need. Other things and we'll finish this. I know running back is not important, but you're not convincing an undrafted free agent to come here a running

back like how on Earth? So if you like, if you like a guy that's your Ben d Nucci, like your seventh round flyer, you better draft him if you want him to come down. Boys, Yeah, you're never gonna get to play, right, you'll be sitting. Come come to Dallas where you might not make the team, and even if you do, you'll never maybe you get to play special teams. Maybe you get to play special teas. All right,

let's watch the next position, wide receiver. What do we rank this assumptions we're all gonna be you know this is a okay. Let me just ask the question on a one to ten scale, where do you put the need at wide receiver? I put it. I put it out of six, probably because I'm in love with wide receivers. But again, you know, we talked about this for years with the offensive line, is like keep a strength of strength. Just keep drafting guys Michael Gallops in a contract year,

Cedric Wilson and Noah Browner in contract years. Like it looks amazing right now, but drafts are for four and five years, not one. And should it be the first round pick, probably not. Should it be the second round pick, probably not? But talk to you into your guy at one if he's there, absolutely me me. If Jalen Waddle or Jamar Chase is there, either one, you you you're not doing your job right if you're not at least talking about it again. Like again, this is not about

one year, it's about five. We don't know that they think that way. We don't, but I bet they do. I mean, I've been that. I refuse to believe they don't think that those guys are two of the ten or twelve best players in the draft in my opinion. Is it a huge need. No, But you can do a lot of fun stuff, Like if Jamar Chase was on this team, you could trade Michael gallup for a player or a pick or whatever, or you know, you could you could do something with a mari if you

wanted to. Like you always got to have an open mind, about this stuff. Do I think they'll do it? No? Do I think they should do it? No? But it's at least something you should talk about. Okay, here's the thought. I don't think I've actually said this in ever, but a speed guy, you know, receiver, that that would be something that I think that they should look at. This. Welcome to the two thousand and four version of Cowboys.

This team. Yeah, two thousand and four. I was telling you about a guy in Hester that maybe it would be right, But no, I just think that as good as the receivers are as great as they are and can be, there's not that go guy. They don't have that guy. And that's what Waddle would give you for sure. But you know, I'm looking at middle rounds of guys like that. So there's a guy like of you. The other day, there's guy in Auburn named Schwartz. That guy

was he was running track. He's soaked that I mean, somebody like that. And if you get later on in the round and those guys could run, obviously they got their warts in their game or whatever. But that's the one guy receiver that I'm gonna take. Is the guy that's that's in the four two, four three four three not gonna be a four two, but like four three four four round your boy, Schwartz. I know. I mean it was unofficial, but he was unofficially clocked at like

four two eight or something like that. I mean, I'm just saying, in a perfect world, they have two fourth they have two fourth round picks, one fifteen and one thirty eight, and in my perfect world, one of those would be a receiver. Yeah, not somebody that needs to play this year. But you know, Michael Gallup Insurance will call it yea yep, Amber, I don't know, man. I that's a hard one for me too, It says, because I get it, we look at the future and all that,

but I only care about now. And I say this every time. I only care about this year. And I know that Michael Gallup his contract is coming up and all that, so you're gonna need a receiver later on, but as of right now. And I know this is not how you draft. I get it. I get it, but I just can't help myself but to be like, I don't care about what happens next year. I just care about this year. Okay, So let's assume for a second that the people that are making the comparison of

Waddle to Tyreek Hill. Let's assume you could get Tyreek Hill at number ten in the first round. Are you willing to do that? No? Yes, draft him. Trade Michael gallup to somebody who's got a young cornerback that I can add to my roster, and let's party. And I can hear the people yelling at me, and I don't care. Right well, I mean that's a tricky one, it really is, because I mean you're still you need I mean defense, there's no doubt you need fixed defense. But I mean

you do have to look at the long term. You have to and and you know, you could piece some things together on defense. This team isn't very good at it that some teams are. Maybe Quinn is a lot better at it, but you know, you could. You could make the case at receiver like he's saying, You could make the case at offensive line and go, you're up here. There's special linement and you're probably gonna need one at one point, you know, But it just depends on who

who you think is special. And and that's I don't know. We have something on the website going later today called what would you do not what we think they are gonna do, certain and all that. What would you do? And this guy says Wattle and and and that's that's what he's saying. And I'm staying Michael Parson's Penn State. That's what I would do at number ten. If he's there, I'm taking him as these would be your these would

be your top guys. It's like you think would be there and you're assuming that the cornerbacks are on the board, you would take those two? Yeah, probably, yep. If those corners are taking him. Have you seen Jalen Wattle play? You are going to leave Sports Center people and you know, people get like, people get mad. There are ways you can solve these problems, like I mean, trade Michael Gallup or or signed Richard Sherman after the draft is over again.

And I think I think the world of Patrick Certan and J. C. Horne, and I think it'll be a good pick if that's who they pick tomorrow night. But I'm not I'm not gonna let being afraid of what happened last year hold me hostage from passing on a badass.

Are you not? If you get into that situation, yeah, maybe so the one thing I'll say is like, maybe part of my problem here with wide receiver is I keep thinking about the Detroit Lions years ago when they went first round wide receivers, what three years in a row, and yeah, Charles Roger, like, it's just it just there is a point where you can have too much of something because you just can't get the full value out of it and you cannot receiver a little you can

a little bit more receiver. You can have some fun with some of the passage. No, you cannot have some fun, not this year, have some fun another year. But you guys are you guys are frustrating me right now because I just refuse. I refuse to drest. Like if we're raising the Derek's fault, it's all thanks Derek's fault. It's not my fault. You started the draft show like after Thanksgiving, Like this is this is what happens when you get to this point, You're gonna you're gonna tell You're gonna

talk about why you should draft a punter. At some point, I mean, everything is gonna horn. We know it. Dave knows that, everybody knows it. But at this point, it's just it's like let's put some fun here also, like I know you believe it, it is fun. I just I just want people to think outside the box a

little bit more, that's all. And I can't I can't, um what's the word you shouldn't you like, we needed cornerback, but he we raided him an eight out of ten and this guy's an eleven out of ten, and so but we're we need the cornerback, Like that's not Jared said it yesterday. He didn't. He didn't tell us a lot, but he said yesterday. Don't be so stupid with your needs.

He said it, like he said with that, so you just wonder, now you got to figure out what their board isn't There are ways, there are ways you can fix these problems. And I don't think they'll draft Waddle, and at the end of the day, they probably shouldn't. But I just get frustrated when people are like, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Is like, no, adding great players to your team is not stupid and you

can work around it. Think about it like this, And I know this sounds kind of silly, but when you're playing fantasy football, okay, and you're drafting I know my strategy is always like, well, when it gets to the middle rounds, like I'm gonna start the run on the tight end. Well, tight ends now a different thing, but like I'm going to start the run on the defense or maybe the kicker or whatever because it's a little early. But guess what, I got the best one. I know

that just like a linebacker. You know, That's why I like about Parsons, I got the best one. Cornerback, You're probably gonna be able to say that too. You know you got the best one course end as well. So I mean there's if and I think we're not talking about linebacker being more of a need than corner really. I mean think about like corner, Oh we gotta have a corner out of a corner. Well, but I mean, if you had to start right now, you'd start Anthony

Brown and Jordan Lewis and trey Von Diggs. But at linebacker, you'd starting Jalen Smith and Leyton if he's healthy, and then you don't know who's the third guy. And I mean I think there's more and definitely got questions down the road at linebacker. So yeah, I think linebacker may be a bigger need all right, let's jump to the offensive line. Let's talk about it. I want to talk about it kind of as a boot, because I think that's where you kind of have to like look at

this position. Where would you rate the offensive line as far as need ten to one? For me, tackle is at it like an eight. I put the interior at like a five or six up fair, I like that eight. I was thinking eight and yeah eight five eight six. McCarthy said something interesting to me yesterday, which was like he was. He basically said, like I would guess with ten picks, we're gonna draft he said a lineman. But he was talking about the interiors. He was specifically talking

about like making adding competition for Tyler Beata. And I'm sitting there saying, well, you got Connor, you got Zach, you got the other Connor. Connor mcgovernment played center in college. Like it seems fine to me. But again, when you have ten picks, why not? But like from I hope I really hope one of these four top one hundred picks as a tackle. I really hope it is. I

would write, I mean about the same. I just we hear it every year where you're expecting all of Yren Smith to be healthy again, and then now you add Lalla Collins to the mix, and there's always an injury problem there. And I don't want to have just a good passing game. I need my running game to be able to work as well. And I think that was a big issue. I mean, clearly it was a big issue last year, but I think that part of it

was what was happening with the offensive line. So I need Ezekiel Elia to get back into form and get help from the old line. So I see it as a pretty high need. All right, let's jump to the tight end position, because this is one that's been talked about over and over and over again this season, mainly because at the top of the first round you've got a guy that appears by all most people's accounts to be a very special player. I'm talking a generational type

player in Kyle Pitts. First of all, where do you rate this as far as they need for the Cowboys? And then you can talk a little bit about are you willing to jump outside of that for someone that's supposedly going to be this great or projects to be this great in the NFL. It's really funny because I don't. I don't see tight end as a big one for need. I say three. I didn't put anything that low because like you can always find, you can always upgrade your talent,

I said three or four. Like tight end, it's such a hard position for guys to adjust to. It took Blake Jarwin some time. Dalton Schultz didn't really break out to his third year. It's very rare to see, especially like the further back you go, the steeper the learning curve. And so I like this current strategy of just adding guys in free agency, like Blake Bell did a good job. I like the Jeremy Sprinkle signing. You got Sean mccun still here, and then you got your two. If they

didn't draft one, I wouldn't even care. Yeah, but Kyle Pitts though, I mean yeah, I mean he's the guy. You can do it. You're drafted. You drafted because you're not drafting a tied end so much. You're drafting a just a freak player. And let's be honest, I mean, we know he's not really really a tied end. He's gonna be a mismatch. But I guess I'll ask you this because you guys looked at tape. Is he is

he putting his hand down and going up again? Defensive ends, I can get in the way, Like he's not Marty b but he can. He's better. He's a better blocker than he gets credit for it. I thought you were going to say better than Witten, which, well, he's better. He's probably he's better now than Witton was in the final years of his career. I don't know if he's better than prime Witten, but because he's a he's gonna be.

He can get on that'll get better. I would assume once gets he's six six, two fifty, he can get on the line, he can chip the end, he can help the tackle. He could probably. I wouldn't want to put him against an end one on one and hope that it's going to go well. But like he can do what he needs to do. Would you okay, I'll ask you this. Would you trade up for him eight? He's fall into eight? What are you giving up for that third? Probably one of your one of your dates? Yeah,

probably you're one of your thirds, just from ten to eight. No, not me and not me either, And that's I'm I'm not moving for anybody. There's not a player out there, I would move up. I sound like I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth, because well, I love Kyle Pitts. He wants He's my favorite player in the draft. But they need to make four picks in the top one hundred. They need guys that can come in and help, and they need a tight end. Isn't dire enough that

they should be getting rid of those resources? I agree if you did need a position like this, if you needed it, then yeah, I'd go get it. But I'm not trading up forward. But no, I agree. Would you? But would you take him at ten? With I? Would you? Would you know? No time would elapse that the one guy I would take like it would be nine fifty eight on the clock and it would go d D D ding d D ding ding. The Cowboys have made their pick. But but but wait, but wait, because there

is a team sitting it. I don't know sixteen, I don't even know what it looks like. But there is a team five or six picks back that just desperately would love him, and they don't play you all the time. So they're in the AFC and then they they call and they say, do I get there one next year. Yeah, next year's one, next year's one, And I mean, I don't think that. I don't know if you I don't think you could get next year's one. I think you would.

I don't know what. I don't know. I would say this if I was going to get next year's one. And by the way, there were at least three four guys still on the board that I want. I'm talking one of the two offensive linemen, just one of the two cornerbacks, who's gonna get picked if he's there and all the other guys. Yeah, I mean, that's you would have to at that point, you'd have to have all five quarterbacks that are projected as possibilities in that top five.

You would have to have at least two of those wide receivers a top five right and two offensive linemens. We said this about Lamb last year and it worked out, but there were two other great receivers. Pits is the only tight end. It's really hard to imagine a scenario where he falls that far. I think, starting at four and going until eight, I just I can't I can't see it. I can't seehim getting at it. But if he's there and they don't pick him, I might walk

off the set of the show. Honestly, like we're live broadcasting the draft. I'll be so upset if they pass on because and if they do, if they do pass on him, he'll be a giant or an eagle, and so have fun. Get ready, I do not want to see that. All right, We're gonna take our final break. When we come back, we'll talk about the defensive side of the ball, the area where Amber's really focused in, and she'll give us lots of really great insight on that. We'll do that when we come right back. This is

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with the defensive tackle position. Give me your your assessment of this as a need ten to one. The fun thing about defense is like your number should be high everywhere everywhere. I think, I put I put seven, I put seven eight on d tackle and I would only say they have bodies. That's the only thing. Like they

have enough bodies. At D tackle to play right now, not maybe you don't feel great about the talent level, but Tristan Hill, Nevill Gallimore, Antoine Woods and the two new guys Carlos Watkins and Brent Urban, like you can play with that, but I would love to add to it if they can. Yep, I agree anything, yep, I agree, and probably in the top with your top four picks. I think, I think that would be ideals. You know, that's where you got Gallimore line year, get Tristan Hill

the year before that, I don't remember. I mean, Antoine Woods wasn't drafted. I don't believe. That's the funny thing, Like people are like, we need to draft a D tackle. We've been ignoring it. I'm like, they drafted the one in the second and the third in back to back years. So that doesn't hold water in MALIEK. Collins in twenty sixteen, and I mean, you know they've drafted defensive tackles, just

not in the first round. I would yeah, Which that's it's frustrating because you know, the top one hundred picks or where all my focus is. Like I said, after that, you're just kind of throwing darts. But there's so many positions where you'd like to see them take a guy there, and you're like, I'd love to get a d tackle at ninety nine, but I'd love to get a you know, I'd love to get an offensive tackle at ninety nine. Two Like it's it's hard to figure out, all right,

jumped to the defensive end position. Where is it, Reik, and where would you think the Cowboys would consider it? This is the biggest bummer in this entire draft cycle, because if you're drafting in the top ten, you should have a shot at a badass, said Rusher. And it just doesn't seem like it's there this year. I put it at like I put it at seven. I think Tank and Randy's a good duo to Terrell. Basham's fine, and you know Dorrin's Armstrong. We talked about him a

couple of weeks ago. But especially you don't think they're going to be an upgrade disposition because anybody that you can always you can always upgrade the position to be better than Dorin's Armstrong, to upgrade it. I just don't think you know can Okay, there's not a Bosa or a Chase Young and I you know they wouldn't have

a shot at those guys anyway. But but typic like there's guys you're like, oh yeah, Like you remember the year they drafted Taco, there were like six ins, you know, Tack McKinley and Charles Harris and all these other guys that it just doesn't seem like it lines up, like it would be a reach in my opinion, if they drafted an addresser that high. But just remember that, you know in Seattle, and I guess you could say the

same in Atlanta. I mean this defense with dan Quinn, he's had some success with guys that weren't drafted super high. So you know, maybe in the first, second round, third round, I mean, they'll be looking at defensive end. You know, their priority will be be looking at ins, but it doesn't mean they'll be a good fit for it. This is a very not sexy eddress your class, but the need is there, and dan Quinn has a defensive line background, so like it shouldn't surprise anybody to see them draft one.

I'm still recovering from what they did with Tackle and the pig that they spent around him, So how do I just I don't see it happening. There's no one.

And of course I do not study the draft like any of you guys do, but there hasn't been a name or someone that I'm like excited for, or even in the later rounds, you know, someone that stands out, just like Dave mentioned, but just in general, this is a position where I would be semi okay if they find it a tackle, But then for a defensive end they look for someone undrafted or maybe during training camp once teams start cutting guys and kind of get a

better look at other players that could come in and at least at some depth and just be there and just compete, not really expecting expecting anyone to start, but at least just to check it out. But no one stands out, honestly, all right, linebacker, you put it nine? Nine? Is this the Is this the highest one you gave? Not as far as positions, No, we're gonna get to that. Yeah, okay, a nine. Yeah, I gotta I gotta get a linebacker.

I gotta get a good one, you know. I gotta get a guy in the top four picks that that's going to come in here and play. That's honest. If I had to and I've I've talked about this a lot, but if I had to pick a position that I really they need to get a corner in this top one hundred, and they need to find a linebacker. Those are like the two that I really think they need to hit. And you know, everything else you just kind of let it fall how it falls. But those are

the two. YEA, So Parsons, you guys would would you guys feel comfortable? No, Nick, you've already said it would feel comfortable at ten taking Parsons would, I wouldn't like it? It would what? Uh? Well? And that's the big debate is, in my opinion, if you're drafting a linebacker that high, he needs to be to rushed the passer and Parsons can, but he seems like a projection. He's raw, he didn't

play last year. His coverage needs some work, like he's not this elite coverage linebacker, at least not right now. And is he good enough at rushing the passer that that makes up for it? Basically? And how are you deploying all of that? Because a guy who rushes the passer who doesn't cover that well describes somebody that's already here. So yeah, I thought you were talking about somebody who was already so the and a lot of people say the comp for Michael Parsons is pre injury Jalen Smith,

which is awfully enticing. Yeah, but there's just pre injury that's that's really enticing. There's more valuable positions that like. I just think I think a lockdown corner who's good at his job is more valuable than that player in my opinion, at ten, if they trade back, I'd be happy to draft Michael Parsons, but not at ten. I want a linebacker within the first three picks that they have, and I rate linebacker at number ten as far as need I mean, right now, in my eyes, we got nothing.

There's a guy I want a bench. There is a guy that's injured and we don't know how he's gonna return as far as health why so other than that, we're kind of left with thou much there. So that's a ten for me, absolutely, I think a big thing too.

And I don't think Nick's crazy at all for liking Micah Parsons, but one of my favorite way for other things, but maybe not for that well, yeah, fair, but one of my favorite aspects of this draft is there seems to be a big sweet spot for linebackers on Day two, like starting at the end of the first and going until pick fifty or sixty. Like Nick Bolton out of Missouri is a guy I like a lot. Ohio State has a couple of guys, Baron Browning and Pete Werner LSU.

We've talked about Jabril Cox, who is very good in coverage. Alabama's Dylan Moses Zaven Collins out of Tulsa's more of a first round guy. But again maybe if you trade back. So I just think there's a variety of ways you can hit this without spending the tenth overall pick, which is another reason why I'm like, well, why draft Parsons

if I can get Baron Browning later? And do you see a huge as is there a big gap between Parsons and some of those guys you just names, And is that gap as big as say those top two cornerbacks and then the next set of guys. That's a really interesting question, I think. I mean, if Parsons is what everybody thinks he can be, then there probably is

a big gap. But again it's a projection whereas you know, I go back to Anthony Hitchins all the time, where which Baron Browning is a much better athlete than Anthony Hitchins. But like, just give me the plug and play guy who can do what I need him to do, who doesn't have to be a freak show. And that's and again I talk about this a lot. Trayvon Diggs was arguably would y'all say he was the best corner on this team? Last year? He struggled a lot, did he not? Yeah?

I mean I don't think he wasn't better than Cheeto, But you didn't play much, Okay, But point like, Trayvon Diggs, by all accounts, had a very successful season leads. But and that's that's what you're get. I think the learning curved cornerback is really steep, and if you're trying to improve that, I would I'd much rather just pull the trigger at ten than take my chances later. It's true,

all right, So we're talking about the quarterback position. My assumption is we all agree that is a top notch need for the Cowboys. And give me a few names, Dave, if we got beyond that first round. Obviously we all think that those guys are in the mix. But give me some names. He had a lower, second, third round picks that could be fits for the Cowboys at cornerback. Okay, um, well it's the Cowboys, so you got you gotta keep your eye on Caleb farl He was He was arguable,

he was arguably the best corner in this class. We'll see how far he falls. We know Jerry Jones is not afraid to pull the trigger on that type of guy. So he's What was the surgery that he had to have. He had a back surgery, but the list is pretty long. Honestly, it was similar. It's a similar back surgery to what Romo had in the middle of the season a couple of years ago or a few years ago. It wasn't like her needed disc surgery. It's like when they shave

off a little bit. Sounds terrible. They shaved off for shooting protrusion on his spine. That was like messing with his nerves. But like players have done that in the middle of the season and played so how alone, like I think Romo did. He came back and played a few if the report going around right now is that he played the entire twenty nineteen season and was all conference with sciatic nerve pain down his leg because he's that's not pleasant. I know. Can you cover hu Leo Jones?

That's what we need, not at this point in my life. But maybe he's he's gonna be. I think that. I think the world of Caleb Farley if he's healthy. But the rap sheet scares the crap out of me. Um, oh really that's a coward. Well, I'm talking the health rap sheet. I should say no, no, no no, no, no, no no no, I'm sorry, I meant the medical list. Um. There's two guys out of Georgia that I think you

should know, Eric Stoates Stokes and Tyson Campbell. I'd like to think one of them could be there at forty four if he ought to. Melafon Wu big Big. When I see big DBS with dan Quinn's history, I think of, you know, the guys in Seattle, so can't rule that out. Elijah Molden is a guy that I'm intrigued by because we know they don't like small guys. He's like five nine, five ten, but he's very intriguing. He could probably play safety, he could play in the slot. He came out of Washington,

which their track record with DBS speaks for itself. I would love to draft him, but I don't trust that the Cowboys would. But he's definitely a name that I think you should know. Keith Taylor also out of Washington. He's a later on guy, but he's like six two sixty three, so that's intriguing to me. But there are definitely guys you can find if you don't draft one of the big two. But I'd rather just get it

out of the way for the sake of time. Do the same thing for me for the safety position, because I think we all agree safety as an issue. I want to know where can you find where can you find the best safety in this draft? And then tell me a few other names. I put it at an eight. It's not a top heavy safety class. Travon mary got a TCU A is far and away seen as the best. He's probably a late first rounder. If they love him, maybe they trade up for And then there's a bunch

of Day two guys that intrigued me. Dan Quinn went to Oregon to scoutch Avon Holland that's probably like a round two guy. A name that I think you should know. Richie Grant out of UCF really impressed at the Senior Bowl. People love him. He's a ballhawk Jamar Johnson out of Indiana, And then again this is just me being stupid, but divine Diablo Virginia Tech. He's a six three two fifteen safety, linebacker,

hybrid guy. And I just keep thinking about the fact that Cam Chancellor went to Virginia Tech two and I'm like, maybe dan Quinn likes these big thumper, strong safety types. So those are the names that I wrote down. I think they should have a good shot at some guys on Day two if that's what they want to do. Okay, before we end this show, I want to go around the table and I want you guys to tell me and this is not what you think they're gonna do.

It is what you hope happens tomorrow night. With the first round pick, who do you who do you want the Cowboys to select with that pick? Nicholas Starring, I'd said Parson. I think he's a guy that comes right in and plays um a linebacker. If if they don't do that, and they they're hell been on a corner, I would take Horn. I like Horn over certain from what I've seen, I think he's he's a dog, and I think this team needs it. I think he's proved.

I think if you count the best players in the last ten years at Alabama, I think Certan is probably in the teams. I think at South Carolina, I think it's Clowney and then you know, maybe another guy, maybe Ken Law and Horn. I just think he doesn't have a lot of great guys around him, and he gets it done. And the fact that he went up against Pitts shows he's not afraid to do it. Parsons are Horn for me. Okay, amber Um, I don't you know. I mentioned I'd really want a linebacker, but I haven't.

I don't really know much about any of these linebackers on here, but the one guy that I would want it is Horn because aside from the talent that Nick just described, I liked his interview that he with the Cowboys. I don't just watching him and the things that he said and how he said it, you know, something about his personality and the way he responded to some questions

attracted me more towards to him. So I think he would be a good fit here, and the Cowboys obviously need a corner, so someone that can come in and step in right away, and I think he would be a guy. I wouldn't be mad at that, I know, and I stand by what I said, like I would they should at least consider drafting Waddle, Like if you won't even consider it, then you're not doing your job the right way. But I don't think that'll happen. At the end of the day, I don't really think it

should happen. I would draft I think it'll be Horner Certan. I think one of them will be there. I would draft Patrick Certan. He just strikes me as I think. I think people have fatigue with him because we've known he was going to be one of the best corners in the class since October and you know, he's been in every mock draft that entire time. I think people

are just bored of talking about him. But he showed up at Alabama, which is the pinnacle of college foot ball, and started from the get He was a three year starter for the true freshman. Impressive for Nick Saban. Nick Saban is a dB guru. I think he knows what he's looking at, and I know, you know, some of their corners haven't worked out. I don't care about that he's got the NFL, you know, bloodlines. He did it at a high level at the best program in the country.

I don't think it's a big deal that he's already played with Treyvon Diggs. But it doesn't hurt, Like, I mean, that's nice to have. And I just think he's the classic, Like his floor is so high, Like he might not ever be Champ Bailey, but I can't imagine him busting whereas I think, which I like jac Horn a lot, but I think there's a lot like there's a little bit more risk there. I'm not sure he's sure of a thing, So just give me the sure thing corner. Think he can step in and start right away and

be good for you, And I have no problems with that. Yeah, I'll tell you this. This is a draft. I really don't think the Cowboys can mess this up. If you look at those five quarterbacks, and let's assume all five of those quarterbacks go in the top nine, then basically the Cowboys have to choose the best person on their board, Pitts Horns or ten Slater and sewell, can you really mess that up? Like, I just don't think they can mess this up. Personally, I would like them to see

them take one of the two cornerbacks. But I will say this, if you take any one of those five, I feel happy coming out of the first round because I feel like the Cowboys will have addressed a need and in their opinion, they got the best player on the board at that time. So I take either of those five guys. I think Jerry would hope that there's only four quarterbacks taken and that there's a fifth one sitting there at see if you could trade up, so Jerry,

Jerry wants the phone to rank. He basically said that yesterday. That's when I get worried. And the reason why I get worried is because I want one of those five players. The likelihood that I trade down, especially if I'm trading down, say to fifteen, sixteen seventeen, the likely I'm gonna get one of those five players is now gone. I want one of those five players because I think one of those five players, Like I said, I think they will be good players from standpoint in need. They will also

be the best players available at that time. And I don't know if the guy you get later is going to be as good as those guys. That's what makes this all. I love the draft. I love the draft like some people roll their eyes out of it. I don't care because I'm sitting here like Patrick Certain would

be really great. But if you told me I could get Micah Parsons or maybe even jac Horne at fifteen and then have pick forty six from New England, Horn and Certain, there's no way I think they're there fifty. I could be you oversimplified. I think what it was going to be selected before the Cowboys. Personally it's possible, yeah, but that's a big risk. I'm not taking any risk after her last season. What we saw last season. You should not have the luxury of making any traits. You

need your pick, you need to stay. You want as many players to help as possible. Right, they're trying to know, yes, yes, I get so let's add another pick and still get a good guys. I don't like the risk of expecting a guy to still be available at a certain spot. Somebody to look at it. You can also say this team needs everybody and so there'll be a good one.

Don't rule this part out too. When you're talking about trading down, you don't have edge Rusher like up there high, but there's teams that might because they want an edge rusher so bad. Don't be surprised if the curveball in the top fifteen is a pass rusher that you're not expecting. We've seen it before. The Raiders did it whack with the third pick a few years ago. I mean, like this guy, like, whoa really? I mean, I remember way back when Freeny got picked, way back when Freenie got picked.

He was not a guy you. But pass rushers are valued higher. They might throw some a curve into this and I don't. You're not unique, and I'm not talking about you specifically, but people are like, he won't be there. They're like, he won't be there at sixteen. And then a guy that nobody's talking about, like Jalen Phillips goes in the top to Cleveland Farrell blew everybody like nobody saw that. It happens every year. You never and people

fall every year. I get that, So I tend to agree with you, but you never know once these because they all have That's one thing I love about it too, Like they all have such drastically of different opinions, Like the Cowboys hate a guy that's gonna get drafted in the top fifteen. They're like, okay, went in the first round, or you know, they'll tell us on Friday night that the guy they drafted at forty four was their eighteen player. So that's what makes it fun. So you never know

what's gonna happen to show. Okay, thank you, Ambers, just like give me can I get ten all pros? Just give me ten all pros and all on the defense? Yeah, all the deeps. All right, guys, appreciate you joining us. We'll be back next week. We'll tell you what happened with the draft. We'll give you a breakdown from our points of views on the picks the Cowboys. Will make make sure you check out all of our covers this weekend. We'll have the Draft Show going live. It'll start up

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