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The final show before Saturday’s game in San Francisco discusses the players that will be on the field and what to expect from the rookies and other young players.

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The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break. Yeah, And so much for that. It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Good morning, guys or lunchtime. Why are you shaking your head already? Nick? Seriously, if you don't like it, you

can get up and walk away, very simple. All right there. I mean, no one's forced to be here, you know, yeah, I know, it's just shaking his head. As soon as he started speaking, he started shaking. He says, But all right, well, today is a traveled for the Cowboys. We are all headed to San Francisco for the first preseason game, which is tomorrow. But in the meantime, I think we're we have some things to discuss prior to I mean, it's not a I wish we didn't have this show today,

but we do. Honestly, what a great way to get people hyped up to listen to today's podcast. All right, well, let's start off with the news. Robert Quinn he fractured his hand earlier this week, we thought, oh well, let's see how long he's out. The what they said, the doctors and all that said he should be ready to go for Week one. Then yesterday the news comes out that the NFL has suspended Robert Quinn for two games, and that came as a surprise for some of us.

Some other people maybe have started hearing about that for a while, But just wanted to get your thoughts on what this means for the Cowboys and what they're trying to do at defensive end. All. See, we still have DeMarcus Lawrence recovering from the surgery, you got Tyrone Crawford from the hip injury. Then you have m. Randy Gregory. That's another one, Randy Gregory, who you still don't know what's happening with him. He's suspended indefinitely. So what's going

on here with this position? And what do you think this change? How does this change the game for the Cowboys? Of the ten, eleven, twelve, whatever the number is Pro bowlers on this roster, how many how many of them do you feel great about for Week one? Right now? That was my question yesterday yesterday's show, Right and it seemed like across the table, everybody is kind of like, yeah,

I'm good. Well, but real quick, I feel the same way. Yeah, I really do, like I feel fine, But it is it is funny that what Travis Frederick kind of a question mark Zach Martin dealing with the back, DeMarcus Lawrence hasn't practiced, Byron Jones hasn't practiced, Robert Quinn has now suspended. So yeah, I get it. Running back isn't here. The running back it's not here. While yeah, the receiver's not practicing.

There's there's a lot. But my point is, my point is that there is a lot of just not being here. And I'm I get your point, Dave, that you think most of these guys will will still be there once the games actually start. I'm just a believer in. I do think whether you play him in the preseason or not, I do think there's a reason why you do these practices. You start building the chemistry, you start building the because

I mean, this is a new offensive coordinator. He's trying to figure out how he's gonna call this thing and what things work and what things don't. And you take a guy out and put another guy in and it changes sometimes the dynamic of how something works. And so I just look at all that and I think that this is going to be one of those years where the Cowboys and you've seen this, You've probably seen this before with individual players or with a team, but things

don't really start clicking until week three or four. You'll see that a lot of times with veteran teams because a lot of them don't do a lot during the preseason, and so the first couple of weeks it doesn't seem like it's really flowing, it doesn't seem like it's really clicking. I think the Cowboys might be in for a little

bit of that. Good thing for them. They're playing a couple of teams at the beginning of the season that are not as tough as some of the teams are going to play a little later, at least on paper, as far as what we've what we think of those teams, and so maybe the Cowboys can withstand it. But I don't. I don't. I don't like the fact that these guys are all missing right now because I think it's important. I just think the vast majority of these dominoes will

fall into place before September eighth. Obviously Quinn will not. Can we know he's out for two games? Question mark on Tyrone? Yeah yeah, And but the vast majority of these big name players I think will be where they're supposed to be, which is the field for the Giants game. So I'm still not that worried about it. I don't think the Quinn situation. You know, he hasn't looked that great out here. I mean, it's early, he's a veteran, He's going up against Tyron Smith. It's kind of hard

to look great. But I do think that they were counting on him to be a guy that could, you know, provide some stabil in an experience to that position, even on the opposite side of of d Law. So, but there's nothing that they haven't done before. I mean, this team has got plenty of defensive guys that gets suspended for the first couple of games seventeen since seventeens, that includes multi multiple offenders and all that stuff. But since

win what year fourteen? Rolando multiple times, nine, Randy multiple times, Scandric Irving multiple times, Marcus DeMarcus, gregor um Hardy, did Henry Melton have one too? I don't. It's there's a lot. I don't know. I don't think Henry Melton did, but it's a lot. It's too many. But that's just the defense. Well, Robert Quinn's situation, it's kind of interesting because once you see what his agent put out as an estatement of what happened, it was about to medication that he takes

for seizures, and something happened in the pharmacy. There was some kind of cross contamination from another medication and there was a percentage of it that got in there that popped up that is used to cover up of substance enhance him and abuse or whatever it's called. And there's a battle there of how things went down. And then saying that the NFL has said they believed he was innocent. Yeah,

they still suspended him two times. Now. I've seen a lot of people asking on Twitter about this and asking if he is innocent, why doesn't he challenge it and try to five for maybe just one game suspension or no games at all. Do you guys know how this possibly can work or what happened. Has challenged it, He has appealed it. This was in April. He's appealed that

usually it's a four game. I think they've reduced it already to a two games, so this is kind of it's unprecedented really that it's a two game suspension, so which when we heard about it, that was our first thought. Yeah, mainly it can't be for PDS because that's always four and then he got two. So that tells you they

already reduced what they normally don't reduce. Similar to the Scandrick thing, I think yeah, because and we talked about that, it was you know, they changed the policy not to include his you know what was in his test, and he got it reduced. That's the thing. They do a great job of keeping this stuff under wraps because you know, we just heard about it yesterday. Pretty much everybody just heard about it yesterday except for Robert Quinn and his people.

They've been going back and forth with the league about this since April. They took the time his legal team, like you know, subpoenat or whatever the records for this pharmacy to look at this stuff, so that gives you an idea of how long they've been doing this. So I think it's pretty set it too. Can have a long conversation about the league's policies and their standard of doing businesses and how inconsistent it is. It's not going to change a whole lot between now and when Robert

Quinn has to serve his suspension. Unfortunately. All right, well, let's move on and start talking about tomorrow's game, which people are excited. One of the main questions that come to us when we start having preseason games is what kind of starters are you gonna be playing? So who do you expect to see playing in this game? As far as the starter if you are healthy, I think you'll see just about everybody, not for a long time, probably a series or you know, a set number of plays,

eight to ten plays. But you know, we get to watch the walkthroughs. We're privileged in that regard. And it sure looked like a lot of starters were getting some last minute work last night when they came out here. So that seems to be Jerry's dak. I don't think we won't see Zach Martin. We won't see Amari Cooper. I don't even know if they're gonna go to Santa Clara.

I'm Amari Cooper's definitely not who you're five linemen to start the game, Tyron Smith, Connor Williams, Travis Frederick, Xavier Suaphilo, and Lyle Collins. I think the whole starting offense minus Amari Zach and shocked well Zeek obviously, and then m and then Witten. I don't think Witten's gonna play. I'll be shocked if Travis Frederick plays. Yeah, Okay, I mean, do you think you'll play faced off? I think the starters will get eight to ten snaps. I'd be great.

I just would be surprised that they I mean, he just did one on one the other day for like like this week. I believe for the first time Travis Frederick himself is the one that said one on one is stupid and doesn't really apply to centers though, like he was like, I hate that drill. I don't encounter those situations in football ever, so I don't like doing it. So the center's usually double in on somebody. It's rare that he's got just a guy that's kind of isolating

him in space. So I think, I I mean, I'll we're gonna sit next to each other. I'll own up to it if I'm wrong. But I think the vast majority of the starting offense is now serious. I think that'd be great. I just would just the way they've handled the Frederick thing, it would it would surprise me if he if he was out there, But I guess we'll find out. It won't find out right here. It won't be a lot that would be my guests, but

baby steps. The point is you just get to see some of these guys just get It's it's more of just them getting a taste a little bit. You're not you're there at least as the Cowboys will get it. They're evaluating those guys that are gonna be coming in after them, like they know what these guys are. They're just giving them a little taste to kind of get him in the flow a little bit. It's not it's not gonna be much and the first preseason game, so

I hope Travis does get some time. I think it's important for him to do that, and it's probably important for them to see some tape of him doing the real thing. And you know, they said before practices even started that he had the full go. They didn't need to be cautious with him. Obviously you want to be if you need to be, but things you got two more preseason games where those vets will play, and they'll play substantially in the third game. So this game, again,

just give him a little taste. I want to see if he can handle a possession before I worry about making him play staff. Yeah. Right, the earlier you can find out, I guess, the better, you know, I think. So, yeah, that's good. Then, So okay, let's go around the table and tell me who would be a guy that you are wanting to keep your eye on on tomorrow's game.

Nick Um, I'll say Jalen Joel because because you said the whole camp and we're writing a piece about that later today and I haven't written mine yet, But Jalen Jelks Uh, he's gonna especially with all the defensive end question marks that we have. I think that that he'll get an opportunity to play in the like second quarter and then into the third. So guys, when you when you have starters that are banged out, those guys have to play early and then they're gonna play extensive. So

I see a lot of seventy for Jalen Jelks. I want to see if he can get around the end and use you know, create some havoc those long arms. That's my guy. I'm right there with you. I would say another defensive end. Dorn's armstrong, and I think he's gonna get a ton of playing time. He'll maybe the guys start out, probably he's gonna start, and he'll probably when the other started to start coming out, He's probably

gonna stay in a little while longer. Um, so you may get to see maybe a half of Dorn's armstrong. I want to see how he matches up against other competition and the guys out here, because out here he's looked really good. In my opinion, Again, a defensive end doesn't have to win every time. Defensive end wins one time per game throughout a season, he's gonna be a pro bowler. So I want to see if he can do that. Can you get a win? Can you get

one win this week? And I'll tell me a lot about what I'm thinking or what I'm seeing out here and how it translates to an actual game against other competition. These games, like we just said, you know, even if we see the starters, it won't be much. This is where you want to watch the middle and back into the depth chart for sure, because they're going to have to do most of the heavy lifting. You inspired me

on this one, Derek. I want to watch Dalton Schultz because Witten might not play at all, and if he doesn't, Blake Jarwin's not going to play the whole game. I think, you know, he's not this established vet, but I think he's earned that where he doesn't have to play all sixty minutes of this game. So I would have expect Dalton Schultz to get a long look, you know, a few quarters at least. Then we'll see just how far he's come. No better time to see if you're a

good blocker than going against real competition. And we know how much they like to run twelfth personnel, which is one of it. One running back, two tight ends, which means that even with the starters, he's ill be gonna be out there something. Yeah, I would agree. Now, who would be a guy that you think might surprise all of us? M oh, I know I'll kind of gift too, because I like to throw them together, father and son, Mike and Joe Jackson. Okay, I'm just saying like I

just and I probably maybe maybe I've been a little hot. No, I don't think so. I think Nick's just been a little lower than everybody else on Michael, like you you said, Mike, you think Mike Jackson has been okay. I think he's actually been pretty good. It wasn't like you, No, I'm talking about he's got really long arms. I don't really

I think, I know. I think Mike Jackson and Joe Jackson I think have been pretty good out here, and I'm interested again to see them against other competitions because both of them are guys that, yeah, you liked their draft picks, but they're not guaranteed a spot. But I think they're right there on that cusp. If they can make some plays in this kind of game and surprise you with them with one big play, then it kind of pushes them up into that realm of yeah, they

gotta make the scene. They need to make this team right. So those are two guys I think could surprise you. They do it every day out here, so I assume one of them will do it in the game. Either John Vey Johnson or Jalen Guyden is going to get behind somebody. Is John Vay surprise at this point, he won't be for us, but I guess for fans out there. I mean, yeah, it will be if this is Jake

it to a game. If this is your first look at the Cowboys and he brings in some forty fifty sixty yard catch, Yeah, I think that'll catch people's eye. Eric Rodgers, Yeah no, you don't. Neither do fans. Fourteen He was great out here. Oxnard for never did it in a game. He never did anything, and I think he plays in the Arena League now. But but John Vay has been He's been way more involved than any guy I can remember. Like we talk about those kind of guys all the time. Those guys usually are doing

that against second, third team guys. John Vay has been out here running with the ones a lot. Here's the thing, though, is well, we'll see. He might get to run with the ones for all I know, but he's gonna it's gonna hinder him too, because he's gonna be playing with the second and third offense, like it's gonna be Mike White running for his life because Jake Campos is trace Jason after the defensive end, like preseason football gets ugly in the second half because you got guys that aren't

that good. So if he can do it, but with a lesser cast than you know. That being said, it happens all the time. The offensive line can't block anybody

in the second and third, you know, second half. But it's not like Michael Strahan's living on the on the Cowboys side of the ball, Like it's not like he gets eight, eight to ten sacks, you know, yeah, yeah, But I think we've also noticed though that that well, I don't know, I mean, I just think it's I just think it's the Cowboys offensive line has been so bad. I don't remember a bunch of defensive ents just getting three to four sacks in the second half. Like, wow,

he's good. Which also, you know, as much as we as much as we talk about them not making the team, like you'd like to think that the Mitch Hyatts of the world could maybe hold their own against you know, back into the depth chart competition. That's the one thing Colombo said right after the draft. I remember asking him about, yeah, you got some good guys in free agency there and

the college free agents. He was like, well, when we get to the preseason games, we're now going to be able to block a little bit in the second half. That was his first statement so we'll see. Now Brandon Knight is he's banged up the field, not going to play. So it's high at and that is like the only guy they got now high at night. They had to sign Poy's gone. I know that they signed him, but now he's gone. They had to sign a guy from

Michigan who's got like his name three names. I can't remember. The guy they signed on like Wednesday is going to play on Saturday. Welcome to the NFL. That's fun. So we'll see. But if one of those receivers takes it to the game, I think it qualifies as a surprise. William William called him off the bus guy. Yeah he did the tackle. Oh yeah, he's like what is he like six seven or something. I pride myself like, if you're on the team, I know your name. I pride

myself on that. And I can't remember four Juwan Bushell Beatty, I think something like that. Who would be your guy that might surprise here? Um, I was gonna say one of the receivers guiding, and uh, John Vy mainly guiding because he's struggled a little bit more, I guess than John Vey. But um, Reggie Davis too. You know, in in that group, he's gonna get some some playing time

there wide receiver. So who's gonna surprise me? I think Davis would surprise me if he actually it, took it to the field and played well, what nothing, I'm just laughing,

So he would actually kind of surprise me. I think so, because I think Reggie Davis is the guy that is we've seen a lot of, not John Vy, because John Vey's got speed, then we don't really see that all ton, But Reggie Davis the practice squad from a year ago and now you know an he weighs one hundred and thirty seven pounds and he comes out here and you know, and we'll see. But if he can continue to make plays,

I think that would be surprising. I'll give you another one that might surprise me a little bit because I've seen kind of this. There have been moments out here where he's flashed, but it hasn't been consistent a receiver as Cedric Wilson like. There have been some days where he's had some big plays and then he'll just kind of disappear. You don't see anything from him for a couple of days, and all of a sudden he'll flash, So it wouldn't it would be kind of surprising that

he would do it. But but you've seen flashes of it. So I think that's a guy that maybe might get into a game like this and and all of a sudden hit you for a big play and you're like, oh, Cedric Wilson's now in the mix, right, I could tell who's gonna be surprised in the press box. The whole whole press box will be surprised. The Cowboys go down, score touchdown, and they make the extra point and everyone but he's gonna get all the kicks. I believe in

this game. I hope. So I really don't want to have to go through a week a kick or talk if he misses. Overall, maher hasn't been terrible, but he hasn't been he I know, it's just the way you say it. Overall, no, But but think about it like this.

This is just same way in a game. If if the guy has been twenty of twenty four for a season and he missed, two of his kicks were in overtime and they lost the game, another one was right at the regulation that didn't force overtime, and another one was just a thirty seven yard or you'd be like, yeah, pretty good. But when we really needed you the most, and that's what he's done out here when it's time,

that's who he's been. That's who he's been. They that's that's probably a problem with for being so good to get up there, because if they stay back at the forty and it's a fifty seven yard or money, it's it's and it's five points for your fantasy league, which it's important. Tough to it's tough to gauge. It's it's tough to decide how I feel about him because he routinely he's five of six, six of seven, seven of eight,

like he's missing one kick per day. And if I told you that those were all from forty five plus, you'd probably feel all right about it. But there's the thirty two yarder and the forty yarder and the twenty eight yards, so just for kicks. I threw this question out on Twitter yesterday. It was an overwhelming response. It really was an overwhelming response. But I want to hear what you guys have to say. I went back and

I looked last year. If you just look at some of the statistics, he was at eighty percent for the season last year. Another guy, Brandon McManus, who I think kicks for the Broncos, he was also eighty percent, but they're two completely that type of kickers. Mc manus was one hundred percent from forty nine and under. He had not missed a kick all season last year from forty nine and under. However, from fifty plus he was only

two of seven. You can look at at Maher. Maher was I think twenty three of twenty nine for everything under forty nine, but he was six of seven from fifty plus. Which do you prefer? You prefer the guy that's money under fifty, but you get beyond fifty and you probably aren't gonna make the kick, or a guy that beyond fifty he's pretty money, like he can get

you those really long kicks, but not horrible. But he's not gonna be He's gonna have some moments under forty nine that are gonna be like, how do you miss that kick? Which one do you go with? Give mean the guy that's automatic from short range, because if you had a guy that couldn't hit it from long range, maybe Jason Garrett would be more aggressive in that part of the field anyway, and you wouldn't be settling for fifty and fifty three yard field goals in the first place. Nick, Yeah,

I agree with that. I agree with the guy. I want to know when it's a thirty seven yard or he's gonna make it. You know. Now, he kicks outdoors and it can be kind of swirly win. But then again, you would think you'd be better with the you know, with the altitude like that to get to kick it straight and it goes eighty yards. Yeah, but you could, you know, a lot of you can make the case of my heart kicks most of his games indoors. Yeah,

I don't know. I think the guy that kicks it that's inside the forty nine yards that can make it more. I like that guy more because you're right, play calling would affect all that. Yeah, what do you think, I mean, give me six points and then one point, let's score some touchdown? All right? Well, no, I was gonna say.

Actually somebody was mentioning that they were like, look that with this offense, point with this offense, to give me the guy that I know is gonna make it under forty nine because like, like you, I think it was why don't you guys set this you get to the those long kicks, go for it on fourth down, like you've got a good enough offense where if you got a fourth and one, fourth and two, maybe even man take a shot, go for it because you know your

kick is probably not gonna make it from that distance, rather than settling when you get to the forty something yard line and then trying to just make a long field goal fourth and two on the forty with a percentage that you're gonna get it, and then if you kick it from the forty seven and miss, and then they got the ball at the forty seven yard line, I think the percentage of making it fourth and two is better than making a fifty seven yard field goal

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the kicker, physician brand Maher and all of that. Now there is another kicker out there that I've seen a lot of fans mentioned and ask about this guy is forty four years old and he made twenty out of twenty one kicks last year with the Falcons and then he was like go this offseason. Matt Bryant a name that has been floating around when he comes to this team and the Cowboys possibly bringing him in. Thoughts on this,

this opinion that fans have on this guy. Fifteen years ago, they brought him in for a workout here with Parcels and he was he was old then. He was, you know, a journeyman at twenty nine, thirty year old kicker, and he didn't get the job then, and I was shocked that he's been doing it for fifteen more years. Uh yeah, he's I mean he kicks same situation for the Falcons. I mean, you know, in me half his games are pretty much indoors and if he could do that for Atlanta,

it's probably better here. Can we miss one field goal last year? I don't know, that's what I'm taking that. Yeah, I'm taking you at your word on that. Actually there's another one. A bunch of people message us about it last night. The Ravens have a backup in their camp named Carrie Vedvik. He hit from the team, by the way, that's well, that's why I'm just bringing it up, joke.

He hit from fifty five, five and twenty six. And you know, typically I roll my eyes at trade rumors, but if you've got a good second kicker, because we know Justin Tucker is amazing, you're probably gonna trade him when it comes time to make roster cuts. So something to keep an eye on. I'm I'm totally content to wait until we get back from the West Coast to worry about that. Let's see Brett Maher kick in two games.

He'll have two games to kick a bunch of kicks, and if this is still really troubling, there will be options as you get closer to the season. I think the question is is what is troubling? And that's because Dan Bailey and the Dan Bailey that they had for a period of about three to four years was one arguably one of the best in the history of the NFL, and so they've been So what is because is what Maher is doing now? Isn't that what the rest of the league is doing other than Tucker? And maybe I

did that study too, where they were last year. Last year he was ranked twenty fourth in the league as far as this field goal percent eighty at eighty percent, that's twenty fourth and there were eight kickers. There were eight kickers, so that would be a quarte I'm sorry about a quarter of the league that was above ninety percent. So it's not even like he is if you rate him relative to other kickers in the league, that he is still right there around that and we just have

a war perspective because we just watch him. It's not that he is. He's in the lower part of the league, lower quarter of the league when it comes to this field goal percent. Troubling to me is if the same pattern continues where stuff inside of forty yards is either dicey or no good, and you have no confidence that a kick that's going being taken from the twenty five

or in is not a safe bet. The interesting I'm glad you brought that up though, because like we all felt fine about Dan Bailey last year, and they were the ones that were troubled because they get to see the person more than the player, and that is what gives me confidence about Brett Maher is that they see the person and they like the person, at least last time I checked in that way, which kicker matters, the person matters, absolutely, Like, that's the part that and explain

to people why you said it. I don't and I don't say person like he's a nice guy. That's not what I mean. I mean, he's confident, he's not down on himself. He's got a good attitude. He believes in himself, and he's right. That situation is don't kill right in the mind, which is what you hear about kickers so

much that their head cases. Well, apparently last year, I mean Bailey, his confidence had had changed to the point after the year before they got to the preseason and in the games and he wanted to kick with the same operation. You know, LP, Chris Jones kick it and LP's not going to play the whole game. And they got another snapper for that until Bailey kind of wanted to have those kicks there, and so that became kind of an issue. And Mahr even now Maha apparently is

more of them. Just put the ball down, Yeah, just don't give me the laces. I don't care who snapped it whole day. Just put the ball down and I'll kick it and so they do love that part of him, but at the end of the day, it's gotta they gotta make it. And so for again me seeing less of the person than they do, I want to watch to see if he's shaky from inside the twenty five yard line, because that's that's the trouble. And that booming

leg has got to get more touchbacks too. It did well earlier on, but then it seems like it's the you know, and it happens with weather and with the wind and stuff like that, you don't get as many touchbacks. But I felt like that kind of that he wore down a little bit um last year having to take all of the kicks and the punts. Don't don't forget last year Maha punted in preseason games. As now his

role is different. Let's see hand. Okay, I know the answer to this question, but I got the question on Twitter from a couple of people, So I think it's worth you guys at least explaining why the answer will be what I think it's gonna be. Why wouldn't the Cowboys in a situation like this where you have a kicker who is really really good from fifty plus, Why wouldn't the Cowboys at least consider the option of having

two kickers on their team? Why? Because they they don't think it's that much of a of an issue to waste the whole roster spot because there's no guarantee that this guy's gonna make it over any money putting on. I mean, I don't know how much they make. But you're like, don't think the money, but you're spending an extra spot and extra stuff. I know the money wouldn't be a whole ton of issue or anything, but that's

just extra resources. But the money would be the same as whatever or less and maybe what you're paying for another position. My question like, is it worth it? Is it worth it? It's a good idea if one of those guys punts, If one of those guys, yeah, and I think teams have done that where you're the long kickers, not fifty three, but you can't have more than two. You're saying you, but you can't have more than two kickers because of just the way your roster's mate. It's

not so much the fifty three, it's the forty sixty six. Man, it's tough to have three guys that I mean, you have four guys that don't do anything. You have a snapper, punter, big kicker, a short kicker. That was the answer I was hoping you would give, because that's the answer. I think that really is the legitimate I think four members of your team that are that play what twelve percent

of the snaps in a game? Right? Yeah? I mean, although, well, and that's actually that is a really good point because I'm sitting here thinking like, well, what if they carry a third quarterback? Is that really? But but he's got a third quarterbacks not ever dressed for a game. And that's the point. It's like you're you're trying to figure out if, unless you got a lot of injuries, gett into forty six. Sometimes it's pretty tough, right, And do you have the luxury of being able to make a

kicker one of those guys? I second kicker? I say this in Jess, but like not really and no I do, but or just fake kicking? Oh darn what if? I mean, just just go up to his room tonight and say, Jeff Heath, get to work on if we're yes man. I laughed at him. He's like, I'm not joking, but like they're like, just work on it every day after practice from now until the season starts, and let's just see how good he is and if he can handle it. He makes you think he can do what he was

around the league. To do it on a day to day basis better than I'm not asking him to hit from forty five. I'm asking him to hit extra points and chip shots. I get that, But my point still is, for they're still kickers in the NFL that all they do is kick, and they are at that range, so

you're expecting him to do that. I'm not fully serious, but okay, part of me, part of me if he worked on it every day for the next month, I wonder how good he'd be because he he woke up and didn't know he was going to kick in San Francisco and did pretty damn well on like six hours notice pretty good. He was so pretty good, Which is that's actually the easy part. It's the kickers when they

start thinking all the time, and probably easy. He's sitting on the bus riding to the game thinking, I hope they don't call me at five yards to win the game, like I don't want to. But what you know, do you think, kicker if it's if it's twenty to seventeen and the offense is driving, I mean, obviously they want

they want to win the game. I know they want to win the game, but like, do they want like like in overtime, you know, like overtime you kick the field goal or you score to they like, it depends.

But that's the point. If you got a kicker who is who wants them to score touchdown, most likely he's not your He's not gonna be a good kicker because with any of these positions out here, the best players they want the ball, they want the opportunity to make the play in the critical moment because that's just what they do. They're like, I'm so great at this. I want the opportunity show everybody how great I had from

everything I've heard. Maher's that kind of guy. Even coming off a miss, He's like giving me back out there, nail it, yeah, right, Which is I say this all the time. But that's how I'm not wired that way. And that's how I know I'm not because if it was me, I'd be like, come on, Zeke, just bust this thing. Man just over there just rooting hard. You got the towel out, get this thing in crowded, dude, and don't put this thing on my shoulders. I don't

want that. But that's also I mean, that just tells you what kind of special mentality it takes to play at this level. And you talk about any athlete, I mean, basketball is probably even more so because it's only five guys on the court. You see their faces and you're taking that last second shot, Like, think about the mentality you have to have to say, give me the ball to win the game with everybody watching me, and I'm on a center stage and I'm the guy, so self

doubt is not in their vocabulary. And I'm just like, how because that's all I do. All right, Well, let's keep answering some of these fans questions. One of them is asking, are we gonna how much of Kellen Moore's playbook are we gonna get to see in tomorrow's game? Probably not as much as you want to if I had to guess. And they don't tell us what they're gonna run. But it's preseason. They don't even game plan, like they don't you know, there's no intricate plan for this.

And they also they script. There's a difference between scripting and game plan right, and then on top of that, there's no way in hell they want to put meaningful stuff on tape for other teams to look at when the season rolls around. So which, by the way, right now, no team has really reliable footage on what he likes to call, So why give them that when you get to go into a season and be able to catch everybody by a surprise because they don't have any films.

I think about that one. I think about that when I videotape every snap of practice. I'm like knowing the resources that NFL teams put into these things. There's probably guys around the league watching my grainy cell phone. No, but the difference is the difference is you're just taking an isolated play. They still don't know in a certain situation, what does he like to do? What is his propensity

to do in this situation. That's where they're gonna have an advantage, at least for the first part of the season. It tests third and six at the twenty think they do. I think they probably would have shut us down if it was that. I think I think it'll look very vanilla. Yeah, who do you think will lead the team? In receiving yards Cooper, Cob or Gallop. I thought it was for the game Cooper's. Now we're doing random thing Cooper, Cooper, Cooper's Oh, Cob, Well, Cole might not play either. I

don't know, no in this season. Oh I'm sorry. Yards yards better read Cooper? After all that about to see about to get If this contra is gonna get done, it better be cool. I think it'll be Cooper. I'm I mean, eighty eighty two hundred catches, eleven hundred yards something like, can I change your questions? I'm like, between

Cob and Gallop, who has more yards? I actually somebody asked me about that because I've been raving about Michael Gallup and somebody was like, well, you know, when you think is season's gonna look like I'm I'm like, it's still probably not gonna just like boggle the mind. Because of the way this team is constructed. They're run heavy. I assume they're gonna have an all pro running back

who will also catch a bunch of passes. And then you've got Cobb and Witten who are gonna be ready made targets for Dak right which Cobb that made mean volume for Cobb, whereas in you know Gallup's gonna be He's gonna make some big plays. Eighty four they say, again, thirty eight catches. That would be disappointing after what we've seen out here because he only had I think thirty eight was his exact tally last year, thirty nine. I'm gonna buy into the hype enough to say that I

think he can hit fifty. I don't know if they're gonna throw that. I know that's the problem. That's all. That's why I think Nick's number is actually good. You tell me he's gonna get five hundred yards off of thirty eight catches and four or five touchdowns, And if Cooper's doing what we think he's gonna do, and you got Zeke and you got Pollard and you got like there's with that, I think that's a really good season for him based on how this af's run. That's kind

of a Harper type. Really your best, your best hope for Gallup. That's that line is fine, but up the touchdowns and he should have had more last year. We couldn't connect with Dak six seven. If he brings in a few, yeah, like forty five catches for seven six something and but but like seven touchdowns? Yeah, that's very yeah, great, well, yes, that leads into this next question, is right there will the Colways having more passing touchdowns than rushing touchdowns? Yeah?

They most I mean better if they don't, most teams have that. Yeah, but what well, Actually, that's the thing is, Zeke didn't have that many rushing touchdowns last year. What do you have? Six? And I think Dak had six? Well, they have an issues because I mean sucked in the red zone. Yeah, I mean, so is that cleared up by Frederick where he does have that kind of I mean,

but Dak also quarterbacks have twenty something touchdowns? Right, thirty is the new Yeah, like so just see if he had twenty five, I mean in it had the record of twenty five of the right, Yeah, but I mean yeah, it'll be passing even it'll be passing. All right. Let's take our final break, and when we come back, we'll keep answering some of these questions for the upcoming twenty nineteen season. While the player could look good on paper, it's when he's out on the field that you really

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you rate acts deep throws? At this point, you're saying, like on a one to ten skill, irrelevant, irrelevant out here because he can do him all he wants to out here and get him in the games. Because we've seen out of him. I know that why we're here practicing and hoping that it translates. But with Dak everything is totally different. It's got to translate to a game. Sometimes he doesn't even take what he's doing out here

and he plays way better. So it's it's I don't mean that it's a big deal because you just said Gallup should have more touchdowns last year because they didn't connect that as much, but I think that what he does out here. He had a great throw to Cob the other day, but I just want to see that in the game. I guess you could say that about everybody, but with Dak, I think it's pretty proven that he plays and practices differently. He does, and it's hard to

decide how. I feel like, if you charted up every single throw he's made over thirty yards at this camp, he's probably right around fifty percent. Like it hasn't been It hasn't been that consistent and looked like that last year. The thing is is, you know, if but he throws ten a day out here and in games it's like two.

And the key is to can he find a way to be consistent when it matters, because he did leave throws on the field and no quarterback is going to make them all Like you can go like I'm a jerk about it. I tweet every time, like every time Brady misses a throw like that, I tweet about it because every quarterback misses him. But Dak needs to be

better at being more consistent. I'll ask you this question, Dave on that one of the things I've noticed out here, and it hasn't happened a lot, but there have been two or three times I've noticed it where you had a guy who was wide open. I'm talking two or three steps on the next closest defender and and Dak missed him. Does Dak concern you, because I do think there's some quarterbacks the NFL, you give them that kind of situation, they not miss. Yes, And that's that's one

thing when you're missing when there's tight coverage. There's another thing when you're missing when there's a wide Oh maybe maybe it plays into the gamer verse. Practice thing is like when it's easy, it's a bigger struggle because and some of Dak's best throws are against like the best coverage. You go look at the throw he made to Gallop in the playoffs last year. Obviously we beat in the Beadsley throw to death. Um, he's made some really insane

throws against great coverage. But yeah, I'd be lying here too. He has yeah, right, And and that's why just mentioned to Cobb right down the seam was it was gorgeous and the coverage was good. He made another one to Gallop in the corner. I got it on video. Michael Jackson had great position in great coverage and it just didn't matter. I'm kind of worried a little bit about the guys going up and really just snatching it like Dees style. I don't think we have a lot of

that on this team. I think you have Cooper and not a whole lot else in terms of guys, I haven't seen Cooper do it a lot. Just I'm talking about me versus you, and I'm my hands are gonna get it in yours aren't. Well. I think the difference is. I think the difference is, in my opinion at least, I think these receivers are better route runners, so they don't have that opperty. They're not in that situation as much.

Des wasn't a guy that that notoriously got a whole lot of separation, so he had to play that kind of game. These guys they're getting separation so so they don't necessarily have to play that game very Marmo wasn't a great deep ball thrower. He could never really get that ball out there where Dez wouldn't have to stop and come back and make it so and that's kind of the same way sometimes that happens, you know, you have to stop and you have to kind of go

fight for it. And I just wonder how well these guys are going to go, you know, grab the ball when it's up there like that. It's it's tough. I mean, I think you made the point. Maybe it's different for running backs, but in the compete period back to back days, you know, he missed olawally and came back the next day and miss Pollard, Like those misses give you pause, like that's not good. And so we'll see how it translates. I mean, I have faith that he'll he'll up his

play in the games, because he always does. But you'd like to see more consistency, and not to sound like hot take guy, but especially if you're gonna pay him a bunch of money, you'd like to see more consistently. I love I love the accuracy. The accuracy I've seen on a lot of his throws. Absolutely so, So that's the part that I'm like, So I don't I don't really think of it as his deep ball has not

been as because like I think he's a gamer. I think he's always he's always shown us he's better in games, and he is in practice, and the fact that I see improvement in practice says to me he will also improve in the game. The other thing takes the logical you know, transference. If you're probably gonna throw it that far down field two to five times a game, depending on the defense, you're gonna throw the crossing routes and the slants and the posts a lot more. And that

has looked better. And especially, I'll say it again, the reason I feel so good about Randall cob Cobb is because Dak consistently hits him in a manner that allows him to get yack yep, And that's what it's all about. And if he's better at that than Colby's his replaced who's who he's replacing. If he's consistently hitting those ten to eighteen yard throws like he has been, then I'll take what I can get with the deep ball, because that's that's not this team's game anyway. This isn't the

bomb away offense. Saint the Saint the Chief. It would be fun to follow Pat Mahomes, but we don't have him, so you can still follow him well professionally. Yeah, so ye, Well, let's switch up the conversation a little bit. Do you think that Lenihan letting getting let go had anything to do with Witten's return? You're just trying to start missing. Hey, these are fans sending any questions. What do you want

me to do? No, I don't because Witten Witten has Witten pumped out the same stat line for twelve years under like multiple different coordinators and multiple different ideas. I think Witten was miserable in his old job and realized he still could play and still wanted to play. He would have returned regardless. I mean, I think the question is valid. I think they. I think the phrasing of it might have been flipped around. He said Lenihan, what Lenihan getting let go had anything to do with Jason

coming back? I think I think Jason returning he probably the fact that Kellen Moore was the was the coordinator, and what he likes from from Kellen and liked him there. I don't know if it was like if Lenahan's here, I'm not coming back, but it's like I liked I can see what Kellen's gonna do, and I like. I think I think ten and six and seven and one in the final eight games with Mari he's the reason why he was like, which, okay, but and if somehow

which that that would have that's never gonna happen. But if somehow Lenahan had, if everything had just stayed the same, you still think Quentin would have come back. I do. I do too, Yeah, probably think so. Yeah, I think combination. But you were right, You're right. It's I think it's I think it's what you said at the end there. It's about the fact that how this team was playing at the end. Um. I think Jason probably looked at that and said, you know, what I could bring is

a tight end. If they had that during that stretch, I think they could have gone farther. So I think I can actually add something, and I think this is a really good team. And I think that's why he wanted to come back. On top of the fact he was, like you said, probably not having the greatest time. They're watching the game and talking about it versus playing. His future wasn't there. I mean, we all we all know it. Some some people are good at some things and some aren't.

As we talked about today in other areas, don't go there. Well, this is supposed to be my restpe I get away from all the management stuff, right. I mean, like I said at the beginning, you can get up and go whenever you want. It still applies. We still have like eight minutes left now with talking about him. Do you think that he would be able to make the Pro Bowl this year? No? Yes, But here's I mean. I'm not trying to throw shade, but the Pro Bowl doesn't

mean what it always meant. You're gonna have dropouts, You're gonna have injuries. Like you see it all the time, Guys who were probably eighth in the pecking order wind up going to the Pro Bowl. And I think Witten's probably gonna play enough snaps to catch anywhere between fifty and seventy balls for six hundred yards, and if he throws some touchdowns in the mix. Add that to the fact that he's a future Hall of Famer, Hell yeah,

he could go to the Pro Bowl. I'm thinking about the guys that right now I think are gonna be the best tight ends in the NFC. ERTs Kittle comes to mind. Catches. Yeah, but I'm saying when I can start thinking about it from that standpoint, But again, I think Jason's as far as just production is concerned. I think Jason's gonna be farther down the list he is, And and these guys that are gonna have some of the production, It's not like they aren't guys that art.

Like Kittle. When he first popped on the scene, nobody everybody's like, who's this great Kittle guy? But now George Jordan there's no point. But the point now is that people are starting to kind of take notice of them. They started really catching on, Like, this guy's a pretty good tight end this year. He's not gonna surprise anybody. If he has that kind of production, He's gonna be a Pro Bowl caliber guy. Kittle ERTs Ingram, who am I forgetting? Rudolph is still doing stuff? You got the

new kid in Detroit? Howkin? Maybe that could happen. Who's um god? Who's in New Orleans? Now? They signed a guy I didn't they sign? Oh, they signed Jared Coke. That's who it was. And he's a pretty good tight end from standpoint of numbers with a good quarterback. Ingram, so who you said? Yeah, Ingram? Here's the thing though, like they ain't going to the super Bowl, but good point one, Like one of those dudes will probably be

in the Super Bowl. Hell, maybe it'll be witting. For that matter, one of those dudes will be in the Super Bowl. One of them is gonna freaking, you know, suffer a deep bone bruise in Week sixteen and be like, nah, I don't want to go to the Pro Bowl, And all of a sudden, the seventh best tight end in the NFC will be in the Pro Bowl, like it happens every year. Yeah, So yes, I think it's possible, alight. Not not because he'll be one of the two or three best tight ends in the league, but because of

the way structure. Yeah, with the suspensions that are looming, does that give us an opportunity to look at bubble players a little bit longer, especially, and there's no position that has more bubbleness to it than the defensive line, which has a It is a very If everybody was there that's on this little depth chart right there, I was, I was being tried the defensive side. Every one of those guys was ready and ready to play, they would be a very tough cut. I mean that's who you got.

Sixteen guys there would Crawford, Taco, Malik Covington, all those guys you think are gonna be there, DeMarcus, that's that? Then what Tristan Hill, He'll make it. What's that legendary clip of Romo the day Quincy got cut when he's like and cutting me today? Yeah? Well, I bet Taco Charlton felt some semblance of that when he heard about Robert Quinn. Yeah. I mean, like Daniel Ross has played

been here for two years. It was pretty good at times last year and then he met had some inactive moments. But he looks like a bigger guy, like he gained fifteen to twenty pounds. I mean, but no one even talks about him even being in the rotation because they got Covington, they got they drafted Hill. Yeah, and that he wanted to be here. He contributed last year. He was why part of that? Why is is a guy?

I thought about bringing up as far as like a surprise on Saturday Night because you would imagine he's going to play a decent amount. He's flashed some stuff here. I wouldn't be surprised if he bowls over a guard or two on Saturday Night. Sixteen Layman, can they keep eleven? They can they have before? It's rare. I think in fourteen. They it's hard to cut five. Thento Walker, I just feel like every time I think they're every time I think they're only gonna keeps, every time I think they're

gonna go along, they keep like eight. Like one year they kept eight and I was flabbergasted. So, I mean, we still have the guy getting carted off the field in one of these games with you know, my ankle's brain or something that he's out for a little while. I know it happens, but I'm just sayings happen. These things trickled it. I mean that they work themselves out well with that, the whole suspension things and some of these guys not being available for the beginning of the season.

How much does that effect maybe what they're trying to do with the roster of maybe keeping somebody else at another position, but now they're having to carry more at that position on the D line. Well with the with the suspension, the Quinn thing, I mean, it's not good that he's suspended, but it helps them because he doesn't

count toward their roster. Now, let me ask you this, though it's just from a procedural standpoint, though, do they have to get down do they have to have him on the roster when they first get to fifty three, and then they can move him, which means they still have to have that spot, or can they immediately move him to doesn't spend it list, like ninety guys, you gotta get to fifty three. You got thirty seven cuts, right, yeah, thirty seven cuts. You gotta cut thirty three. This guy

goes to injured reserve. He's out for the season. These three guys. This guy goes to suspension list. You don't have to, So there's no point where you have to make a decision about the roster because of him. Now you basically keep an extra guy until he's all suspension. Quinn immediately has the suspended. I don't think so, I need to check this curious he had he he immediately goes to reserve suspended at like four h one eastern

on in August thirty. First. That's a good thing for the Cowboys at the point of just whether and whether it's Taco, whether it's Ross, whether it's Daniel Wise Liken get one of those guys will get that spot, most likely for two weeks and then something somebody gets hurt in a different position and right, and they stay around, so it's good. Yeah, you hold on as long as you can. This team knows how to handle suspension on

the experience. Well, yeah, watch the suspension thing. It won't work against him because obviously they'd love to have Randy back. But if Randy were to come back, then that's a spot you don't have, all of a sudden Week three, you'll come back. We'll see who knows you're still keeping well,

might Apple and Crawford. So there's a lot that's still kind of I'm undetermined, between the possibility of a suspension and the fact that he's on pup Like I'm yeah, I want to know what's going on with Tyrone one way or the other. Yeah, exactly. All right, Well, I think that's all the time we have for today. We'll be traveling later on over to San Francisco. Nick, maybe remember we're going to San Jose. All right, it's right there.

But do you want to go ahead and promote the broadcasting where it's gonna be televised or while you guys do for the game. Yeah, yeah, sure, absolutely, what we're gonna do this this year. Actually, the NFL has changed some of the rules and they are allowing us to stream the game live on our mobile app and our in our website, but only for people in our local viewing market. So if you're in the local viewing market, you can watch it on the app or the mobile.

You can watch on the app or our website live while the games in progress. For those of you outside of the market, what we will do is the same thing we did last year. You need to get to Connected TV app. You can get it on Roku, you can get on Apple TV, and you can get it on Amazon Fire. But if you have that, the morning following the game, we will have the game available on our Connected TV app. It's called Cowboys Now um, and

you'll be able to watch it from there. And and obviously that makes a little more sense for the preseason because you don't care as much about the outcome as much as you want to see different players, UM. So you can go back and watch that the following morning. So Sunday morning, h this week, you will be able to watch that game on Connected TV. Thank you Derek, thank you Nick, thank you Dave for presents. Jack. Go

see you guys on Monday. We'll be back then and hopefully you got to watch this game and we get to see some players gonna shine out there when the lights come on. Thank you so much. This has been Cowboys Break on what is It? What's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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