Cowboys Break: Who Makes The Pro Bowl?

have Nick and Dave grinding it away. You're damn right, you do right? Bahamas? Where is Yeah, he's at the Bahamas. We're down here fighting for our lives. Seven and six ball club trying to find a way into the playoffs, and Derek's just taking a run around Central Park somewhere. Yeah, that's he was real excited to take a run around Central Park. That's what he wanted to do. That's what he's in New York. He says he's in meetings, but he was touring. I think there was a statue of

liberty stuff like that. Selfies. Bum. We'll find out. He'll be back tomorrow with us. I think Today's episodes episode maybe eighty nine, something like that. We're good and really accurate. Yeah, we'll just go it's not here. So the number of people that care what episode it is it's down to zero. He tweeted on me about it this morning, wanting to make sure I got it right and you didn't even read it. No, he was asking me what episode numbers it?

Who cares? Say? If you want to tell people what episode number it is, maybe you come do your job right. There's probably people out there that know that because the other day when we played this horrible drop from me um, I got a lot of people that replied back with their theory of what it was. Yeah. Good, it's so most of the people, the majority people think that I was referring to Ron Leary. Yeah, but I still don't think that was a problem though he didn't have one.

That's why his pants would fall down. So why would you have said that it's a decent point, that's a that's good point. Crack reporter there can't get him on all. I still think it's DeMarco. I do too. I don't think I would have said that about an offensive lineman, but maybe maybe, And that's you know, like, who's butter

Learry or Collins. Why do you think he's better? And maybe I said that, but remember now, Douglas had this drop for a while and he's been saving it, so this seems like it's got some Douglas has a good memory. He might he might know, like he might just be able to be like, oh, yeah, you're talking about DeMarco. Yeah, because he's got it. It makes me laugh every time. All Right, Okay, guys, does Dave have a drop? I mean, do we have anything like that on Dave? I mean,

the one that knows You've said a thousand things. The one Douglas always like to pull out on me was do I look like I suck? Well, you just created one right when you were when you're not on Hanging with the Boys or on air anymore, rated all the Dave drops. That's okay. Well, I'm glad. I'm glad we got that discussion in. So let's find out big picture. Now, what's gonna happen? Nick, what's so funny? Dave knows? I do know, and I'm just choosing not to acknowledge it.

I asked him to recreate a drop, and he just created one, right then. Okay, let's keep going, move forward, Come on, bust R. Big picture. What's happening now? Obviously we already know that the Cowboys must win all the remaining games in order to attempt to make it into the playoffs. What's going on in the division? Well, in the division divisions? Obviously the Eagles have clinged. Yes, they have their title. And now the biggest thing that comes to to for me when it comes to the division

is where the Packers gonna finish? Like, are they gonna finish second in their division? Because I'm sure once again the Cowboys are gonna finish second probably and have to face him. Theoretically, I'm looking at the standings right well, Lions the theoretically, I guess they could still finish first. Like the Vikings are ten and three, they have a three and one division record, the Packers are two and two.

They still there's a lot of division games still to play there, so I don't think you see them runner the table. You see Aaron Rodgers definitely starting that well, I know he can come off of these They have not released that information yet, Like McCarthy had a big press conference yesterday where they were basically like, yeah, we don't know yet. We're still evaluating him. You know, we need an answer soon, obviously, because we got to start

practicing and stuff. But can't. What was that stat you told me on the plane about Rogers is one and seven at overtime in his career and Brett Huntley's two and oh, it's awesome. That's awesome. He's gonna come back, start the game. They're gonna go to overtime. They were like, hey, Aaron, uh, we're going to the bullpen here. Uh. Hunley's two and oh, you don't really have success here, that's I mean, that goes over. Well, he wins it in regulation. He didn't

need overtime most of the time. Doubt it. How do we know that Rogers I'm talking about right now? No, we do know it. Yeah, yeah, Lois knows it. We know what we were right there. Um, just one game, you know. It's funny like that, like the one game, one play one you want that run the ball and don't score right there and take off the time. How I mean, it's so funny how it's just one game at the time, and then we got twelve more. But now you fast forward to now and you're sitting at

seven and six. If you were at eight and five and you had a win over the Packers, Well, obviously they're out of it. The Packers would have been out probably. Um. You know what's wild to me? I made this point the other or yesterday. You don't even have to be eight and five if you if you go if you go into the six game, Zekes Spension and you're like, you're gonna go three and three, but you flip those results so that you beat Atlanta and you lose to Oakland.

Let's say you're still seven Kansas City. Yeah, you trade the Kansas City Atlantic game. Well that was but yeah, or you know you you you beat Yeah, just say Oakland, what was the other win besides they've won two games. Yeah, you flip Bakland in Atlanta. You're still seven and six. But you're feeling way better about yourself record, a lot better about yourself than you do right now. So that's I mean, that's the nature of the NFL. But to your point, Amber, Cowboys can't win the East. They we

said yesterday. I think the official statistic is four percent, and a lot of people have tweeted me about that, and I get it. It's a little misleading because if you win all three of your games, that percentage shoots way up. But that's part of you know, it's five to thirty eight. It's the company that predicts the election all the time. Um, But that's part of it. Is the odds that they win all three of their games

and get the breaks they need. Sit somewhere about. It's like when you're playing fantasy and they maybe it's on like Yahoo or something, it says the you got ninety percent chance of winning, and the next thing and it goes down to seventy five because someone scored a touchdown. Is for Levion Bell to have a forty yard touchdown, right, and then you're like, what happened here? So that would obviously change if they if they can get this win.

I mean, this is this is the game. I mean, this is the one where I think that you know it's gonna be. It will be a tough game for the Cowboys and it's a tough place to play, and I mean they haven't won a regular season game appear, I mean this is a misleading staff, but they haven't won a regular season game in Oakland in twenty two years,

but they've only played there like twice. I would guess, yeah, because something weird happened and I don't know why, but something weird happened in the two thousand and nine I think, I actually, I do know the answer to that, which

something to do with baseball. No, when the Rams played in Saint Louis, there was some kind of rule that teams weren't allowed to go to Seattle in Oaklands in the same year or something like that, and so a whole bunch of stuff got shuffled around to keep teams from having to take you know, so many long long

road trips. I got you. It affected the Cowboys. The Cowboys I mean because because they played Kansas City in two thousand and nine and with the miles ofsting game and then twenty thirteen and Oakland played in two thousand and nine and thirteen at home. Both of those games were Thanksgiving Day games. So it somehow they haven't played in Oakland since two thousand and five, A great game, by the way. Well, no, I was gonna say, it's

very difficult. It's gonna be Oh hell, I mean, it's past their control at this I mean, it's been past their control. If they win all the games, you can really control what the other teams. That's right, You're right. At this point, they do not control their own destiny. I don't think you would say that. No, no, because if everyone, if it falls right, that you need all these brands. But I guess you know not yet. But I mean I'm sure if he gets down to it.

I think if they win this game, you know, I think if if they win this game and they win and they go and beat Seattle, I would I would imagine that if I still think they're gonna get in at ten at six. If if this scenario has well, it's gonna be fun because it's I mean, this is why the NFL sets the schedule up this way like this. The schedule is just backloaded with games that are going

to determine this. I mean, Panthers play the Packers this week, The Saints play the Falcons again, the Seahawks play the Rams. So I mean you're talking three or four games that are going to directly the lie. I think the Lions play the Bears. That's not really very sexy, but but they'll lose, maybe the Lions. The Lions want to lose. I want to lose every game. Just teams don't always

I don't take them seriously. I don't either. Sorry, Detroit Lions fans that might be listening, but um, but yeah, so I mean this stuff is all, oh no, I'm sorry, Lanta plays Tampa, right, and then sheet had that sheet schedule. It's okay, okay, Um, we're talking about Seattle. You know what the thing with Seattle is, they're they're pretty much taken care of right from the Cowboys standpoint. They lost that one game, lost the game they need to and so so now if the Cowboys went out, Seattle is

not really not really worried about Seattle. No, because if this, if the Cowboys beat the Seahawks, that would drop them to six losses and you have head to head as long as you went out. Yeah that In fact, you know, everyone keeps talking about Atlanta, how you have to get two games up on Atlanta. But I've said, I feel

like I've said this a thousand times. If you can get into a three way tie, and let's say Seattle is one of them, Atlanta Seattle, and I don't know did they play if they play that, Blanta and Seattle did play plan to win? I don't remember a lot better Seattle won. I don't remember if the time, because I'm telling the Cowboys are going to have a pretty good record in a division. They're gonna be eight and four in the conference, and that that's gonna help them.

There's not There's gonna be some teams with with a record worse than that. Yeah, those two losses in the AFC are gonna come out to be pretty good, it really. I mean look at us just talking like it's gonna be ten and six, like without a doubts you have to to even entertain the thought of making the playoffs. Yeah, I mean, if I had to bet on it right now, I don't. I don't know that I think that they'll get there. I don't know that I think that they'll

win all three of these games. But like I said yesterday, you only have to win one before the whole dynamic changes. I mean, this is a completely different team with Ezekiel ellis right, And that's that's what I think that we're forgetting. Sometimes we're kind of we got, you know, knee deep into this funk of November, and that's like this team's not very good, and well, right, that team wasn't very good.

The team that didn't have Zeke didn't. I mean, we know who are the three best, the three most valuable players on the team are, Like, we know who they are now, there's no doubt that Zeke, it's Tyrans Sean Lee and you don't have them in Atlanta get thrashed. Yep, you don't. Tyr did not come back in Philly, right, No, how many games do they lose with Zeke here? I don't know'll be It'll be tough even with him coming back. I mean, the one thing that this team hasn't been

good at this season is consistency. It's hard to see them winning out all this game back to back, back to back if they haven't been able to be consistent all season. I agree with that. Yeah, but you know they did. They had everybody when they got their doors blown off in Denver. That's true, had everybody. That's true. That's the one game, and you can go back to many years and just this one game. That's just it makes no sense. There's nothing about that game that makes

any sense at all. The Denver Denver sucks. They're a really bad football team. Forty nine, I think, yeah, And I don't know what it was about the game. I'm gonna be a believer in that. I'm gonna believer. I mean, what else is lame on? The lame it on the lightning delay, I don't know. I mean, blame it on the rain. We always so it is. We always joke about like like eighty yards is a bad day for Ezekiel Elliott and he had eight that day, eight eight yards.

But no, I mean like it's a it's a good point amber and that's you know, they think that they they did get they did win three in a row. They did, and they also lost three in a row. Streaky. I mean, you can't but that. The thing that scares me going into this Oakland game is you can't just throw that out because that's the team. I mean, I know they have Sean Lee. I know they have Sean Lee and that makes a difference. And Hitchins they're defeated.

They are four no when they both play. But you know, I don't know how much stock do you put in to two convincing wins against teams New York? Was it became a good win? I don't know if convincing is the right word. Like convincing you should probably dominate from beginning to end and that's definitely not what happened in New York on Sunday. I just I just think it's

it goes just another example. Just don't beat yourself. Just just you know, make sure that you take care of the ball, take care of what you need to do, and by the end of the game, you should be winning these games. Now, they don't have another team on the schedule like that though. There's not anybody that you're just heading shoulders better than talent wise, That's what and that's the thing that bothers me. Yeah, I mean, you're going on the road to play and like I said,

I think I said this yesterday too. Like Oakland is probably even more disappointed with the way their season has gone than the Cowboys are because they didn't have the suspension or any of that type of stuff. They got their MVP caliber quarterback back, and it's just been bad for them. I mean, they're six and seven, they're five and six in the AFC, which is not the AFC's week. It looks like they're two and three in the division and the division isn't as strong as it looked when

the season started. But I mean they still have Beast mode cars still there. I don't know what's going on with Cooper, but Jared Cook, who Cowboys fans should remember, is there like this is this is a better team than the two that the Cowboys have beaten the last two weeks. You know, in last night's game, if it proved anything, it just shows that, you know, the teams that are that are still fighting, that are hungry. How about that? How about my guide? How about that Amber?

Can you believe that? Can you believe what happened last night? Nope? I cannot is You're just speechless. You don't even want to talk about how about that Jay, Jay freaking Cutler, like probably one of the best three games of his career. Honestly, can you think about it? Yeah, outdueled Tom Brady. Their defense just beat him up. Yeah, hey your guy Xavien Howard. Nice day. All right. Well, now we that we've discussed all that, it would be very, very tough for the Cowboys,

but the possibility is still out there. So I'm it's it's a tough it's a tough hill to climb, and it's a total cliche, but like it really is as easy as just thinking about this Oakland game, Like you really can't get day by day. I mean at least week by week. You don't have to go Wednesday, Thursday,

Friday like Garrett likes to do. But like, if you can win this game, then there's every reason to hope that the last two weeks will look nothing like what we've seen over the last six you know, like I mean, if you can just compartmentalize it and not worry about it. And the other nice thing I thought about this too. I think the Falcons play on Monday night this week, but you're playing Sunday nights, so you'll get to sit back and watch and see, you know, all these other

games as they happen. So like by the time the Cowboys kick off on Sunday night this week, you'll have a pretty good idea of who has helped you and who hasn't. So can you please ask Jason Garrett that in the press conference? So, coach, you're getting ready on Sunday, like you think like you'll kind of have an eye on the TVs. Well, the players know what that we're just gonna take it day by day. That would go over well, oh man, he's gonna give you, yeah, he'll

give you that smile. I think he'd give you. They don't know how to calculated all of our decisions are Hey, whatever, that might be awkward. Did you see Belichick's post game last night? Yes, that was brutal. Yep, I'm glad I don't have to deal with that every week. Yeah, that was just But but I think my point to that is is that you know, the Dolphins are still alive, right, yeah, theoretically, I mean, they'll hanging in there. They're they're there somewhere.

So Oakland is still hanging in there. I mean, that's the thing. And that's what the Cowboys are still are hanging in there. That that's why these these games are tough. I mean, the playoffs have have begun for some of these teams, Miami being one of them, the Cowboys or another. Oakland now is another one. And you know, Seattle might begin to that mode too, where it's going to be a desperate game. That Christmas Eve game is gonna be fun.

I mean there's only there's oh first of all, yeah, but okay, the Eagles have clinched their playoff spot, and I guess maybe the Falcons probably I mean, sorry, the Vikings feel pretty good that they're going to make the playoffs everybody else. It's like, I mean, that's the same. They're nine and four and they have no breathing room whatsoever. There's no way that the Eagles will be clinched anything, right,

Definitely not true. They can clinch hall. They can at least clinch a bye this week, if not home field throughout this week. Yeah, how because they are eleven and three, eleven and two. They're eleven and two. Yeah, they're be

twelve and two. I don't know, but you think that they if they win, they get at least to buy I know, because yeah, because then the only team that can be better than them is Minnesota with three losses, because and that loss to the that loss to the Chiefs is big for them, right, because that means they don't they're in pretty I mean all right, they're not in great shape because they don't have their quarterback, but they're in pretty good shape as far as making the

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do you guys think will make the Pro Bowl? You know, there have been years where it's been that funny joke where they finished what six, they had six wins, four wins. A few years ago they had just four wins. Yeah, I think they had six Pro bowlers on that team. Did. Yeah, there's been some where they they've had more Pro Bowlers than they had victories. Um, this year, there's seven wins, probably gonna be ten. I mean, that's that's pretty much what we were predicting, right, I'm not ready to go

seven and ten. They won't have that many Pro Bowlers though, yeah, I would be. So I'm looking sorry, go ahead, I'm just saying I'm looking at the I'm kind of just jotting some names down here, some guys that definitely are gonna make it, and then all right, mother, I'm curious, like and that's I don't mean this in a mean way, but just the way this season's gone, Like there's a lot of Okay, for instance, Sean Lees played at a Pro Bowl level, but probably for not enough games to

make it. The same thing goes for Ezekiel Elliott. So like what I like, who do you think is a lock? I think DeMarcus Lawrence is a lock. Yes, it's fourteen and a half sacks, and even though his little tirade the other day, I don't think that's going to affect him. Really, he laws a lock. He's leading the league in sacks. That's pretty much the only real lock. As I'm looking at the I want to sounding like you had a few lockdown already, not not lock locks. But I'm not

gonna dismiss Zeke. I mean, okay, he's got he's fourth in the NFC and rushing so probably depends on what he does in the last Well, no, it doesn't because voting ends this week. Never mind, right, I mean, and j Ji E's fifth, but a lot of those came from the Dolphins. Yeah, so Carl Tho hides behind him, blunts behind him, Freeman so I mean in front of him, Gurley Howard from the Bears, Ingram from New Orleans, Kamara, I'm talking about just well, I mean, but yeah, that's true.

I mean, he's a running back and he's got six hundred and eight rushing yards. But he's got a lot more all purpose yards than that. I would bet he makes it too. Yeah, he probably, he probably will. But I mean, Zeke's at seven eighty three, he's been sitting there and he maybe get two thousand. How many how many touchdowns does he have? Seven? I mean that's tied

for third in the conference. I mean, so his numbers are going to be good enough, especially if he can have a couple of nice games here, and especially because you know one of those guys will probably go to the super Bowl if yeah, sould bezy, So he could be. So just don't dismiss him. I'm not writing him off. But here's a couple more that are pretty good locks. I think Zach Martin, Okay, I mean he's he's gonna make it probably every year that he breathes. And then

Travis Frederick. Yeah, I mean those two right there. So I think those three are in Tyrn Smith. See that's and again I don't mean it in a mean way, but that I mean, that's that's almost like a reputation thing like once you once you get in once or twice, then the snowball just starts rolling and you're a known name and everybody knows how good you are. And don't get me wrong, I mean games as he missed two two. I think he missed two games, but even I mean

one of them, like records were broken. It's a good point. So well, this shows like just how good he is. That's like the old argument though that like you know, Peyton Manning should have been twenty eleven NFL MVP, Like has he missed? I know he didn't play a game, but I mean I think you can miss what's the cutoff of games you could miss and still be a pro bowler. I would guess like three or four one I missed two and one of them his value was

definitely on display. Yeah, So I mean that's what I'm gonna move him back up to the lock his lockdown. I think I think the three of them and and they're great players, don't get me wrong, But like I said, like once the snowball gets rolling, and once you're kind of established as like no names in the NFL, it's it's easier to make it in. Now on the on the plane the other day, or remember it's on the bus. I don't remember. We were talking about this um and quarterback.

Now three you have to be probably in the top six maybe to even be considered this and I'm looking at the quarterbacks some point here here we go, Um, he's really not in the top six of the NFC because you know, somebody's gonna go to the Super Bowl. Well, one of the guys is out, now, Wentz, Wentz, We'll he'll still make the Pro Bowl. He'll be an out. I mean he won't go. He won't go. So he's out. So as long as the Eagles don't go to the Super Bowl, that means somebody else in this group of

Breeze and Golf and Keenum is Russell Wilson. Maybe Russell Wilson is definitely gonna make the Pro Bowl. But you know, you gotta remember you have a couple of guys like that, and then Aaron Rodgers probably won't play in the game. If even if he gets picked, I don't think he would. I don't think he would make it anyway. So so I think I think right now, if you just had to pick three guys from the NFC and go ahead

and pick four, because Wentz will not make it. So I'm thinking what Russell Wilson Breeze Golf sounds about right based Keenum, Keenum, Stafford, Ryan Cam I mean you could throw any of them in there. That's I mean, let's be perfectly on it. Like and I said, I mean Dax's numbers were incredible at about the midpoint of October, I thought, I thought he was having a really great season.

But since the Zeke suspension, I'm not trying to argue too hard that I think he should be in the Pro Bowl based on the way this all this has gone. You're saying, as my man Rod Smith said, don't be surprised. Never well, never bet against the Cowboys to get guys in the Pro Bowl anyway. I mean, that's that much is Obviously, he's a fun he's a fun player to watch.

And you know, if if you get to the point where he's an alternate and you want to put him in, I could see that that that helps the NFL the guy like Dak Prescott goes in there. Sure, I've seen it, so wouldn't would definitely dismiss him. Now, you just said we had like seven the year they won four games? Right, Oh wait, hold on, hold on, or you get into other names. Okay, I'm gonna I think you're gonna go down a different road here. So just just a second,

all right, you gonna name another player? I was going to hold on just just like so. Back in the summer, we do this thing called twenty questions. Twenty questions. You guys should be familiar with this. We you know, basically, we do it so we can have some content while everyone's going on vacation. Twenty questions. Each day we pick a topic. One of the questions was which player in twenty seventeen will make his first Pro Bowl? So, oh, first Pro Bowl? So I went down. I remember what

my answer was. Okay, I don't think I don't think it is bad. I think it's probably No. He wasn't on the list there, all right. So Rob for he played the game and he said, Lyell Collins, it's not a bad guests not a bad one I thought, I said yesterday, I think he's playing really well. He is playing really well. I don't know if it's at a Pro Bowl level. I don't know if they'll they'll put three or four in there, but maybe Brian stayed with the same last name and went with Malik Collins ye,

which at the time looked really good. And yep, he was one of the two or three players we just kind of missed on from training camp. Just say, man, he's gonna have a great year. He just hasn't. He's had a bum foot trying a little bit. Yeah, really think about it. When's the last time Malique has really made a play anything? Oh? Yeah, no, I know positive not like but off side. I don't remember the last time he like really flashed. And it might have been

the summer um. Remember when in the in the break when I was like, what am I doing? Yeah? I picked Jeff Heath, I said, one way or another. I thought he would be kind of a special teams guy. Hey, he's leading the team and picks man. Yeah, don't be so hard on yourself. But he not making the Pro Bowl m because even the Cowboy fans don't like him. See that's the thing. I mean, you got to have your own fan base like him, and then they do not. You picked Chris Jones. Oh I see, I thought I

picked MALIEK. Collins. I guess I changed my mind. Jones, All right, way to go me. That's the one player that other than DeMarcus Lawrence, that's the one player that absolutely deserves to make if I could, if I could because DeMarcus Lawrence is gonna get paid out the wazoo no matter what, Like he'll be Okay. If I could like stand on the table for anybody, it would be Chris Jones. He has had the most consistently awesome season of anybody on this team. He's been absolutely unbelievable. Yeah

he is. He is amazing. He can put the ball anywhere he wants it. And I was talking to some people yesterday and they were saying the pre game, he was like, this is unbelievable. This this wind. It says that there's like a ten mile an hour wind and it's like it's all over the place, Like I have no idea where the ball is going to go, and

neither did Dan Bailey. And then, you know, so I think maybe that it made me felt a little bit better about Bailey, just knowing that Chris Jones was kind of the same way, just just just in the pre game, they were just trying to figure out what they were doing and they never got a good gauge on it. So it's not an easy place to kick or the

ray thing that you picked him. I mean, when you're looking at thoughts about who would make the pro Bowl punting isn't the one quolt that you even think of right away if you want to, if you didn't eliminate a lot of players by saying it's got to be your first, it's true, but okay, yeah, yeah, that's true, if you want to look behind the curtain. I feel like me and Brian probably both were thinking Malie Collins, and I was like, all right, well, you're you're the

offensive defensive line guy. Anyway, you do that and then I'll come up with somebody else because it would be boring if we picked the same. Yeah, but but that's Chris. I remember saying all summer that I thought Malik would lead the team in sacks, and he's just got one, I think, and DeMarcus is leading the NFL. I never,

in my wildest dreams, I never Maliks. Whatever he's got, they took half of it, remember away from yeah, from Lawrence in that first game, but I said it was it was gonna be um David Irving, That's who I said. Even with four games. Well, for a while he was

on page to do that and he just stopped. But I feel bad like the special teams guys, like my heart goes out for them because like we're I mean, we're sitting here like, well, maybe Deck will get in because the quarterback goes to the super Bowl and these other quarterbacks pull out, Like you can be the eighth best quarterback and still make it. Not if you're a

kicker or a punter get in. They take one from each team and then or from each conference and unless you were, unless that guy goes to the super Bowl. Like I've never heard of a kicker or a punter pulling out so like, I mean, Chris Jones has been arguably, you know, one of the two or three best hunters in the NFL for for several years now, and it seems like he's never even come close. So um, And that's the like I said, like these guys get in

on you know, reputation. And that's not to say that that you're not good, but people aren't really analyzing punter stats to see like who's really the best? You know what I mean? You know where he ranks in the NFL and in average probably way down if I had to guess, twenty sixth yep, But what about like net and net though that's uh, he's ninth, that's still not as good. As I thought it would be. Yeah, but

it's just it's the ability. Well, I'll say this, inside the twenty he's leading, he's got twenty nine um that that second place. So that's and I get That's my point is, you know people look at like, well, what's his average? How many yards per punt is he averaging? What's how how much are they were like watch watch the games and see where he's pinning these teams and

see how many punt returns he's given up. I mean, how many how many guys have returned punts more than like a couple steps against Chris Jones this year, and how many times has he penned the opposition down. That's that's that's the thing right there. The way, when you look at return yards, that's where the Cowboys are first in the NFL. I mean the guy so if you look at just leading leading punter ranked first, some guy named Kern from Tennessee, I don't know his first name.

He's top on the last air net, punting forty five point five. But they've given up two hundred and fifty eight return yards. Remember Switzer had an eighty three yard return on one run. So Chris Jones fifty five yards return on the season on the season, So if you mean usually you get one or two breakdown, then you give up a fifty yard or let's say he's averaging for a game and he's played thirteen games, So what's the math on that helped me out, Well, he's punted

the ball fifty four times and there's been fifty five yards. Okay, there you go. That's that's the sat right there. That's unbelievable. And I hope that people that doing this, you know, look at the voting, can kind to think of it that way. He really has been I hope, I hope people are paying attention. He deserves it. And it's like, if I had to guess, he probably won't get it because only one punter gets to go. But he deserves it. Yeah, another go ahead and go ahead. Another player that we

thought might have been in that list. I remember we talked about guys that might make it. Uh they're either going to be Jones or or Collins, and Byron Jones's name was mentioned, especially after training camp. We thought, man, he's gonna have a great year. You know that lying around has not happened. Even with the defensive touchdown I think we've been able to see that he's not. I would be I would be relatively surprised if a defender other than d Law makes the Pro Bowl. I don't.

I mean maybe even like while I thought An is Irving gonna just play so well that you have to get him on there, is that wise? But the other um I said this in the mail back today, I think if if he had been healthy for the first month of the season, I think it's hi. He wasn't. So it's one more big punt return out of Switzer and then you'll find yourself doing that. Oh well, unfortunately, voting will be closed by the time he does that. Well did he even fit on the plane? You mean

h whoa, Okay, that's good. No, he's good. I mean, you get one more part return like that or kick return I've seen. I mean, they'll put rikies in there. You remember Johnny Knox? Oh wait, you mean you mean in the Pro Bowl because you don't even have to go back that far because he conducted it last year. I mean turn Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do remember Johnny Knox. It's a shame that he got hurt. Yeah, all right, well, remember this is the last week to vote.

So if you guys want to vote for your favorite Cowboy to make the Pro Bowl, go ahead and do so. And we're gonna be answering some questions from Twitter. Here's the first one, speaking of Byron Jones just a moment ago. Is it time to give Caven Frazier the starting job over Byron Jones based on the way he tackles and makes place. I'm a little worried about that. I still haven't seen a lot of plays where Frasier's in the

back end. He's got it all covered. And I mean, yeah, they they you know, they have a few breakdowns back there. Um at the very least. I like the fact that Byron is athletic enough to yeah, rush to those plays. Yeah, and he you know, he's not amazing, but I think he's better in I would say he's better in covers in Cavon right now. And that's the thing we talked about this I think was it was Washington where he really balled out, right Cavon, Yep, Yeah, it's it's Yesisco too.

Let's let's just get through the season. You know, like you got three more of these games you're scrapping to try to make the playoffs. Like all hands are clearly on deck. I mean, you've got rookies all across your secondary, you're rotating your safeties. Uh, like this now is not the time for like sweeping changes where all of a sudden, Iron Jones isn't playing, you know, like your your safety play clearly hasn't been up to snuff for most of

the season. Worry about that in the offseason. Like, I'm not trying to bench people right now. I'm trying like everybody that can help needs to help, right They did rotate the Washington game, you know, Um, yeah, two weeks ago, they did rotate those. But they that's probabout as far as yeah, well and they did. I talked to Cavon about that after this Giant's game. They apparently they were on the same plan like every two series or so, like he got in about the same amount, didn't flash

quite as much. But either way, But that's my point, like, rotate them, if you want to rotate them, get your guys in there. But like these these you know, people want to see these sweeping changes where Cavon's out there all the time and Byron's never out there. I don't think that's happening. You know, Cavon was benched. I mean at one point this year, like inactive for a game. Remember that, I mean back two or three, and I think he came back against San Francisco maybe and and

had like a really big play. It was like, you know, don't do that again. So you know, I don't know if he's ready to take on starting job. I agree with you, Dave. I think he needs to just just do what they're doing and then we'll get to the offseason and figure it out and figure out if maybe Byron Jones, this is the position he needs to be playing. I think you've got about four I mean, all of your safeties are they're good enough to be out there,

They're not good enough to be your starter. And that's just the situation that they're in right now. And get get through the season with what you got and figure it out from there. I don't see anybody in free agency. I don't see the Cowboys signing any defensive back in free agency less unless they let unless they were to cut Scandrick, which I don't really see that happened. We looked at this contract. It just you're not going to find a better value out there than what you have

with scandricks. So yeah, I don't. I don't see that happening. And there with so many young guys with the corners and rookies, I'm amy corners and safeties that are that are rookies this year. I just don't. I don't see you would add somebody to the mix like that. You might draft someone, but not. All right, let's go ahead and take our final break. You can call us at two one four eight seven two twenty one oh two or hit us on Twitter at Cowboys Break. We'll be back.

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their body. And apparently Tommy John gives you that. You guys, tell me about it pretty much? Did It doesn't sound like we need to Yeah, you know what, it's that time. I was really gonna just talk about adjustments. You know, we've had to adjust on here without you know, Derek leading the way, and I think you've done a nice job there. And sometimes you have to adjust on in the game, but you don't really want to adjust down below the waist because it's awkward for everyone and when

once you do it, you can't take it back. So Tommy John just has their own beautifully. Um, I don't want to go that way. All Let's just say Tommy John is the best under where there is there's no adjustment needed. You can get it on Tommy john dot com board slash Cowboys for twenty percent off your first order Tommy John dot com Forward Slash Cowboys. I censored myself. You don't want to talk about the quick draw thing today. That was yesterday now it was the quick draw fly. Okay, okay,

that's fine. I don't want to access. I don't want to talk about it either. See access, Freedom, briefe, comfortness all you need to have down there if you're a man. So okay, thank you, Nick, She's not wrong, thank you. All right, And then we were talking about Orlando Skean Drake and we all agree that he will probably still be here next year based on his contract and all that. So here's another question from Twitter. Do you guys think that he has a chance to lose his starting job

to one of these rookies? Wow, well, he definitely has a chance. You know what, happens. The good question is a really good question. I don't think he I think if you're going to do that, you should cut him. I don't. I don't think he'll lose the job. Who's better? I mean, these guys don't play better than him. Yeah, it'll be it'll be a close, good competition, just just you're out there and compete. He'll probably win. If he stays healthy, he'll he'll probably usually does mean he's but

but I tell you what, what will help him. There's questions like that and stories like that. He'll hear one thing and then he'll he'll yell at all the media that everyone's saying, and everyone's saying that they you know, and hell, those chips on his shoulders. That's that's what Michael Jordan did. So I'm not comparing Orlando Scanner to Michael Jordan. But like you know, competitors and athletes use stuff like that to motivate him. You just hear one thing and you just go with it. I don't think

he will be replacing it, not this year. I don't think those rookies are that are good enough to do that, not at his job. Put it that way, Um, I'll believe he's not out there when I see it, I mean he's been well. I also think there's three three corners on the team. You pretty much play three in which three are going to be better than It was so awesome on Sunday when the Cowboys announced their starting lineup and it was nicol like that was their starting lineup.

They only had two linebackers, and I was like, yeah, good this I'm talking about PR. I'm like, thank you for calling it what it is, and like, we don't need to worry about who's starting at SAM when we know that three corners are going to be out. Yeah, yeah, okay, guys. So the Cowboys will be resuming their practice today. Do you guys expect David Irving to practice? Today will be more of a walkthrough. Tomorrow will be the regular practice that you will see, but it will do some things today.

I would imagine all expecting him to be back this week. Yes, I do expect him to be just a guess, but I think I think one thing we have noticed about concussion, well this is his second week too. Yeah, he'll be back, but I think that when you start to just see what happens on that first day, I think if he's out on Wednesday, I don't. I don't think he'll be. I don't think. No, you're you're The first day is big for stuff like that. This is his second week though.

Yeah no, But that's what I'm saying even more even more so for sure. But like with concussions, like I don't you don't like gradually work your way back. You're either back or you're not. You're not good, you know what I mean? Like, like I brought this up before, like Zach Martin was pulled out of the what was it the Chargers game and then but the first day of practice for the Redskins, he was at least limited. He didn't do everything, but like he wasn't he went

out to practice, you know twelve weeks ago. Well there's that too. And about this Brian, we kind of talked about him yesterday, but not so much. Um. He didn't have a great beginning of the game, but then eventually made some place. Do you guys think that now he's about to be on the right track and finally, you know, get on that consistency to start being the desk that has been wanting to see. I don't know, man, I

it's interesting. You go back and watch that game and it's it's evident, especially like down in the red zone. It's obvious that like defenses still respect what he can do, especially one like the Giants that is missing cornerbacks. I mean, he was doubled in the red zone a good portion of the day. Ironically, one of the times they didn't double him, he broke a tackle from Brandon Dixon and took it fifty yards to the house. It was it was good to make see him make a play like that.

I just that the drop. The drop really left a bad taste in my mouth, just because and I'm you know, I know that Dak could have thrown a better ball and maybe it's a touchdown if he does. But that's that's his specialty, is going up and getting the ball in the air like that and snatching it over a dB and have it hit it. I mean, it just went right through his hands. It's just like that. He's that's his calling card, and it was a bummer to

see him miss that play. Where do you think in the NFC, Because we talked about Pro Bowl earlier, where do you We didn't really mention him at all, But where do you think he ranks in receptions in the NFC, had a guess twelfth lower, Well, I would go lower among wide receivers, just wide receivers. How many does he have? It's sixty one. He's eighth, eighth. That's shocking to me. I mean, he says tenth, but he's got two running backs ahead of him. So where's the ranking? Yards? Yards

though the other one, and that's what's interesting. Yards. He's fourteenth, and that's usually flip side. That just goes to show his eleven point seven average. That's not an elite player right there. That's sorry, that's not an elite number. Eleven point seven. That's got to be the lowest of his entire career. Yeah, I mean that was what Witten was having for years. Is eleven? Wittens down now to eight point eight. But a number one receiver should probably be

averaging between fourteen and seventeen. Well, right, let's just let's go to it. Then, let's see what the old you know, pull up ab for me. I am NFL receiving leaders number one. Antonio Brown, did you guess that one? Yeah? Fifteen point two. There you go. Julio Jones is fifteen point nine. There you go. Fourteen is Hopkins. Fourteen point five is Adam Delon having a hell of a year. Allan forgot his first name for the Chargers, Keenan. Yeah,

Jordan Lewis didn't forget thirteen point eight. Dez is eleven point seven. I mean, you know, there are guys like Golden t eight ten point eight, Larry Fitzgerald is ten point six. So I mean it's around that number. But for Dez, who doesn't get a ton of catches, that's where you expect the average to be a little bit bigger. He just hasn't had those trunk plays like he had Sunday in that game. I want to say, so he had fifty He finished with fifty last year and he

missed three games. So fifty catches I believe. So sixty six touchdowns, that's a pretty good number there. And you know, when you it's when you think about Antonio Brown has nine, it's it's okay when when has a one hundred and ninety yard games. I'm just saying from a touchdown stand, Polo Jones has three, I mean touchdowns. Oh yeah, it's good. It's just that he needs he needs to get more

of those big plays. That's I mean that seemed basically, what you're telling me is the old Clarence Hill adage of I mean, statistics can lie to you. Oh yeah, basically. I mean if you watch, if you've watched all thirteen of these games intently, you know you know what the situation is. Ye, I don't believe so no, I think we lost you. You want to use mine. I was just gonna say, oh, stats do lie huh, oh, here we go. You're really bringing something up from week two?

That what's happening right now? Oh damn it? Not giving you my mic? That's funny, and she's like, hold on, hold on, I want this. I was just gonna say, whoa, I totally forgot what what was that first half? Second half? That back is better in the Yeah, we are. We are past that, which because I think we were both wrong. I don't know, there's a stretch there when he was pretty bad in both halfs. Yeah. So but now he's back to being he's back to being great again. Yeah,

and he was. I mean that's what I wrote my column that I said he was great. He was, he was, No, he waste in that game. He just needs some help. I mean, like all quarterbacks do. But he doesn't need a ton Just give him a little bit of help and he can he can be great. Again, those guys did a lot of the work. But is it is okay to admit that your second year quarterback needs good players around him to be successful, Like it's all right that he can't just create everything on his own the

way Aaron Rodgers or Russell. But I watched that play with with Brian the eighty one year touchdown, and I mean, he did a really nice job of just of of seeing, oh man, the middle is pretty open and it's gonna be wide open if I can just put rod Smith over here. And now there's no one there, and he takes ball and he says, I'm looking over here, but I'm not looking. I'm just giving rod Smith enough time to get open. And to that point, you know, we

can criticize him, and he deserves criticism. But the safety shaded to Dez Bryant on that Like he had his eyes all over Dez on that play and open it up for right. So that's and that's the thing about Dez that the game, you know, um two weeks ago against Washington where he had the touchdown, then he had the PI in the end zone. He dropped the touchdown, but he was absolutely behind the guy. He burned him

off the line of scrimmage. Then he made another play where he said, get off me, brother, or get off me, big boy, or get off me. Yeah. Yeah, you want to say it that, you know, I was. I was watching the NFL network, NFL Chris Rose whatever his name, Yeah, and they're watching the highlights and he makes the catch and he just ye up in here. He says, get off me. You know. I was like, that's close, it's not go omb I want to say. He did that to Patrick Robinson six or so years ago against the Saints.

Oh yeah, when he had those two touchdowns in both like fifty two yard touchdowns. Yeah, yep. No, he he needs to get back to that. And I think with with all players, it could be a confidence could be up and down. I know you would you think, well, Dez never loses confidence. It doesn't look like he does. But I was watching him on the sideline after that, after that drop, and I mean he was so upset

with himself. I mean, he that's a Dez Bryant play, and I'm so it's good to see him come back and still he still gets that that that double coverage from the you know, from the defense he does and again back to back. These are probably his best two games of the season. So if he can keep that going, Seahawks are depleted in the secondary. It's Oakland. Oakland fired their defensive coordinator. They have be awesome. Oh do they? Oh? No, I know that was a decade ago. Can you believe that? Yeah,

I don't know. I don't know who their corners are. Um, well, they drafted the kid out of Ohio State, but he's on I R. I've been drafting from Houston like four or five years ago. That didn't work out. Yeah, I think that sounds familiar. At their defense isn't anything. Well, we're gonna find all this out tomorrow, you're right, or actually Thursday when you do the defense stuff. You're right, We're gonna get Derek back tomorrow. But then Derek's gonna

be gone again, so we can't again. Yes, great, right, it's football. Football players play football during football season, and football analysts analyze football hosts whatever. All right, guys, we talked about free agency and all that. Do you guys feel that or do you guys expect the Cowboys to be a little more active during this upcoming free agency. I think they do exactly what you've been doing every you just let those players come to you, start mail.

Start emailing me your angry emails now so we can get it out of the way. I mean, don't I mean DeMarcus Lawrence. They'll find something to do with him. David Irving in that regard, yeah, I mean demarking guys, David Irving, Zach Martin, maybe bring back. I mean, I think Anthony Hitchins is going to wind up out of their price range. But maybe who were I mean, you know, Rice Butler and do anything for you? Is that moving

anybody's needle? That type of stuff. But for the fourth year in a row, I'm not expecting them to be making splash signings. I don't think they have the cap space to do that on top of the work they have to do with their own players, and I don't think they want to. Well, they need to do better.

I mean, like, I understand that the priority wasn't high and they didn't spend a ton of money, but there's no way that they thought Demontre Moore, Stephen Paya and Nolan Carroll and then there's a fourth guy, miss a Byron Bell. Those four guys would not be playing for you suree of them off the team, one of them doesn't play. Yeah, I mean they could, they could better, especially when when you when this is a team where injuries and suspensions have hurt the depth and they didn't

have it that those type of pickups. I mean, they could have used a cornerback, a veteran cornerback to be better than Nolan Carroll. Absolutely so. They they don't put a lot of resources in but the last two years they have not done well. They've said Ric Thornton has not on this team. Those three guys that just mentioned aren't on this team. They need to step that up

a little bit. I mean, I'm interested though, like we're kind of running out of time, but it's interesting to think, like, you know, you go into it, they didn't do enough. Nolan Carroll didn't really factor this season. But by the time this season's over, won't you feel you're not gonna feel good about your playmate in the aspect of playmaking, But like top to bottom, you feel all right about

your depth in the secondary, don't you. I mean, going into twenty eighteen, you'll have all your rookies who will have a year of experience. Anthony Brown hasn't had a great year, but he's got another year. You expect Orlando Scandrick to be around. Whatever you feel about them. All of your safeties will still be there, and so you know, to have that depth chart and then maybe add a draft pick on top of it. I think secondaries is fine.

That yeah, it doesn't bother me. Linebacker situations a little bit of a different story. I'd like to see. I'd like to see them maybe add a defensive tackle somehow, which I mean they tried that, mind. I mean no, I would say a nose, big sloppy guy, big trash canful of dirt, daddy, a big trash canful of dirt, which they tried that with Cedric Thornton and again, and oh he's too athletic. I want you want a bigger,

batter guy. I want someone that said, you know, he ran a five eight forty and it's not bad for being three hundred and forty pounds. Okay, that's what I want. You want Vince Wilfork and a track star turned football player to play widers. Yeah, Hey, Nike, this is Mike McCord. We're gonna need a six ax here for this, for this new guy we drafted. Thank you. But this equipment manager,

head equipment manager, right, huh? Get it right? Well? I thought when you say equipment manager, but I I guess my point is he's the equipment manager trying to think, trying to think of places where you could realistically add talent and do a better job of it. I mean, yeah, no specific like in free agency, because that's where you got to start before you get to the draft. Probably offensive line. Maybe I don't think that's a bad idea. Maybe it like a better tell. But they tried. I

mean it's not like they didn't try. It went Byron Bell, we forgot. I mean, talk about signing your own. Jonathan Cooper is a guy they probably need to talk to or figure figure out how they feel about that. What about running back? Yeah, you like the draft? Well, Rod's Rod. Rod's under contract for another year and I'm like, Rod, I'm bring on, bring on the draft. Give me a third or fourth round pick. Add that in there with Zeken. You guys were saying the other day that this was

a deep class already. I mean, I'm not up to enough like Brian and danar But that's what you want to draft another one? Absolutely, yeah, no doubt about it. I mean because he look at look what uh you watched the game Kenyan Drake. They found him in the fifth or sixth round? What does he have? What do you mean, like, what's what skill set would he he's he's a baller, he's a he's like Kamara. He can runs and as a receiver. He does everything. He does everything.

He's the guy in the in the NFC, the NFC, in the National Championship. Yes, they just took the kick off and said, I'm just gonna come over here and They're just gonna go over there and I'm sing hundred yards and win the game. That's him theoretically win the game. But yeah they didn't. Right, um tomorrow, let's go back on that list. I know we're out of time, but that list you name three or four players about Wow, they're you know, this has been kind of a crappy

season because these three guys are out. You went back and tweeted it out and you did a whole list of players, Oh, injured players, players that are not playing for their teams. Unbelieving let's look at that list and let's kind of see like what their team did because of it. I mean, I know that there's some guys that are key players, some are the marquee players of the team. But yeah, it looks like just by what you had. When you lose your top player, things don't

go well for you. Not great, not great. Bob, all right, guys, this is all that time we have for today. Thank you so much for tuning in for Nick Emit, Dave Hellman, and remember Garcia. This has been the Break on Kyallas Cowboys dot Com. Say It Radio Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.