Cowboys Break: Who Do You Keep Now?

We are lacking st WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. Got Nick Amber and Dave with me. We're talking to Cowboys football here with you guys for the next hour. A lot to get into. Cowboys get a big win. I guess if you can call a preseason game a big win. But they do blow the pants off of Houston Texans thirty four to nothing. We're gonna talk a little bit about that, talk about some of the standout players.

We're also going to go back through a list that I threw out to you guys on Friday about some of the some of the bubble guys, some of the battles that were happening, and see if in any of those there were guys. How they played this week weekend if that affected any of those battles in your perspective. Uh. Let's start first, though, with a little bit of blanket coverage. We haven't done this in a while. I have a few statements for you. Still training camp, still training camp.

I have a few statements for you guys, and I'll let you guys fill in the blank. Let's start with the first statement. Dallas has dallass looked pretty good during the preseason, extremely polished versus Houston with teams limiting their starters. What I take from the Dallas performances is blank. Start with you, Amber, um do whisper over there? We say it again, just that last sentence part again. What I'd say from the Dallas performance is okay, performance a performances.

I'm sorry because I'm looking at this from the standpoint of this game and the last game preseason. What I take from their performances is um, I mean, I don't know, I don't know. I'm excited. I like what I see, that's for sure. I like what I see. I like the different elements that they have, the different guys. Seeing Tony Pollard, the things that he's been able to do so far, but I'm hesitating to get super excited about it, you know, because you know what the Cowboys tend to

do to us with those feelings. So I'm just very cautious with that. But I'm really excited and I feel positive about Kellen Moore and what he's able He's been able to accomplish so far. I feel that he hasn't shown us everything, so that's good, and with what we've seen so far, I expect the regular season to be even more once he lets it all go and shows us everything that he's got. I'm excited, Dave sweet sweet relief, okay,

and a variety of ways. But most importantly, you know, we got through the meat of the preseason with no significant injuries and starters played in all the games. Nobody got hurt. I think, keep an eye on Taco Charlton's ankle injury, but I don't. You know, we're not classifying that as a season altering injuries. So they did that. On top of that, the offense and defense both looked about as strong as you could expect them too. In

exhibition games. You know, Dak looked good eleven and fourteen for one O nine and a touchdown led scoring drives on three of his four possessions. The running backs that played in place of Zeke looked good. The defense gave up one touchdown and it came after a muff point put him on a short field. You could call it dominant.

I don't want to, because it's fake football. But they looked really good, Like just in general, like all of the concerns that you had about the preseason heading into it, none of them turned out to be a big deal, with injury being at the top of that list. So I feel relieved. Nick. Yeah, I think that. You know,

Jason Garrett loves to say next man up. I haven't always thought it was it's the best philosophy to use sometimes, but I understand the premise of it, and I think if you watch the preseason and realize where the key players were out right behind them, those guys have done well. I think Michael Gallup has done a really nice job. He is a solid number two. I think Tony Pollard did a nice job in Zeke's absence. I think Xavier's to a Philo showed why he needs to be on

this team. And Zack Martin's absence, I think that the defensive events, all of them Hyder and Dorian's Armstrong. All these guys, Taco have done a nice job. With d Law Crawford out so and Byron Jones, I think Cheeto has done a nice job, and Anthony Brown and Lewis and those so those guys have stepped up. Sean Lee's been out for a while, and Joe Thomas has done

a good job. So you're seeing depth on this team, okay, statement reports There are reports that Byron Jones will be possibly elevated off the pup as early as today with limited practices before the first game and good cornerback play from other cornerbacks on the team. I planned to play him blank during the first game, Dave um hard to answer that, because we haven't mean practicesn't until five or thirty,

so I haven't seen him do anything. I doubt, you know, even if he's out there, if he's off pup, like, he's not just going to mix into team right away. So I'll say sparingly if at all, because again that's that's two practices this week and three next week, like

you're practicing for the Giants starting next week. So that is a short curve for a guy who hasn't done anything all offseason, at least not football, And then the guys that have played in his place have been great, and the Giants also have a terrible receiving course, so everything just lined up. But you don't have to go crazy trying to get him onto the field for that game. So if I play him at all, it is in a very small package of place. Nick, what I wonder

about that? And I agree with everything he said. What I wonder and we don't know this. What depending on how the roster shakes out is can they afford to do that? Can they afford to play him just a small amount of plays? What does it mean for your special teams? What do the other positions look like? Did they keep five corners to CJ. Goodwin, maybe have to play a lumba? Does he make the team Mike Jackson?

So a lot of question marks there. I think though, if they don't have a lot of depth at corner that he might have to play a little bit more. But you're not going to rush him back out, So you might see a cornerback make this team for Week one or two that might not be here once he's fully healthy. Amber I'm trying to think how that really affects the guys that they decide to keep. I'm assuming they would keep six corners, right maybe probably especially that

we all are hoping for. I would think if they don't, though, But with his progress, I mean, I just don't see that necessarily affecting the corners that they decide to keep, Especially with him coming back, I just think that it gives them the relief of kind of easing him in, not just for the Giants, I mean, even the first three games, you still have some wiggle room where you don't have to force him to come back, and you

feel confident enough with the guys that you have. So I think there, he's at a really good spot right now. I think CJ. Goodwin's interception was probably went a long way because that shows that now you know, he could play some corner. If you have to put him in the game, he could play some corner. So maybe they don't have to take Alumba or Mike Jackson on the team. I don't. I don't know where those guys fit right now on the team. Maybe they do not both of them.

Mike Jackson's drafted Alumba did really well. In practice, but I think they'd be afraid to put both of them on the field in a real game. All right, let's age. Let's expand out and hit an NFL topic here. During the game versus the Houston Texans, we heard that Andrew Luck was retiring two weeks before the season begins. In my opinion, you're speaking for yourself. In my opinion, his decision is blank, nick um surprising. But you know, I don't know everything that was going on with him and

all the injuries, but I'll say this. You know I can relate because you know he had that calf injury, and that calf injury is tough. So you know he retired from the NFL football. Okay, you know calf injuries are really terrible. But there's a lot of injuries that that he's gone through, and I guess just mentally it warmed down. I don't know, it's surprising that that he he's done, But do I think he's thrown his last pass? No, Now they come back, they'll kind of go with I'll

come back. Just for reference, Nick was playing fantasy football to the same season back. Oh, that would have been really bad. Yeah, he heard his calf and I still don't think it's ill that it still looks a little gnarly, but hey, you know, it is what it is. It's it's uh that is an underrated injury, and that's one. And he's a guy that's getting treatment and probably doing the right offessional treatment And I probably got no treatment.

You got no money, no one anything completely worth boy, you should see the bills that I've got low it's oh man, it's at least a grand just and we have great insurance here too. Um, his decision is his decision. I think that at the end of the day, you got to look out for what's good for yourself mentally, physically.

You none of us really know what is going on in his personal life, so I think and I saw you defend his case and you know, go on a Twitter war with it was just kind of a explanation, no, And it was good because fans, uh, they tend to think that it's just about the game, and it's not. We're all humans. He's human and whatever his decision is to do that, whether or not this was the right timing to do so, we don't know what he's going through, so you have to respect it and let him do

what he needs to do. Figure it out. I mean, the timing sucks for them, really really bad, but it is what it is. That's the big thing for me too, is like a lot of people who think they, you know, they have this great argument about why luck as a scumbag is like, well, the timing couldn't be worse. It's like, it's not like this guy decided to retire in May and waited until now, Like he's been rehabbing this injury.

I don't follow the Colts as closely as I do the Cowboys, but the way I understand it is it went from a calf injury to an ankle injury, like it got worse and spread to a different part of his body. Yeah, Nick understands say, and after everything he's been through with, like the broken ribs and the shoulder that knocked him out for a year, and he's taken a beating, I don't think he was sitting there and was like, well, I'm gonna retire on August twenty fourth,

but I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna he would probably after his fifteenth week of rehab in his fourth year in a row of needing to rehab something He's just like, I am exhausted and miserable and I just can't do this anymore. And I'll say this, if this is a factor in some of the fans, you know, angst about it, and and I've said it every year. If you're dumb enough to do a stupid fantasy football league that early, that's on you. That's on you. Always wait till after that.

There's no reason to do it. Yeah, you get itchy and you get excited by wanted to do it. Okay, Well, somebody's out there drafted both him and Millar Miller, Lamar Miller probably on their on their team, and that's just dumb. You got away. There's no point to do it in preseason game. And I know people are busy. It's hard to get twelve people on the same night. Sorry, you just have to have to or you're gonna risk this

kind of stuff as part of it. The other thing I was gonna say, Oh, and you know, as far as getting screwed over because your quarterback retires, goes like the Colts have are probably one of five teams that has an experienced competence starting backup quarterback like Jacoby Brissette is not Andrew Luck, but he's a pretty good player, so all things considered, I just don't buy that, Like, yeah, I mean, it's it's his decision, let and ultimately it's

up to the team to figure that part out. I mean, that's the nature of any business. You haven't employees, and employees have responsibility to themselves and when they make a decision, it's up to the organization to be prepared to be able to handle that and to adjust to it. And that's that's not just NFL players, that's every business in America.

Because all you guys out there listening that have jobs, if you decided tomorrow you found a better opportunity for you and your family, you're gonna walk away and that company is going to be left having to figure out how to hold how to figure that out. Not to put our laundry on the air, but we lost a pretty important teammate the day before training The last three years, we've lost a very import point member of our team

just before training camp. And it's a part of it, Like you can't tell that person no, you need to stick around for the good of the team. They're worried about themselves, and that's okay. Gotta do what's certainly okay, all right, we're gonna take our first break. When we come back, let's talk a little bit about this game. We're gonna talk about some standout players, and then we'll talk about some of the bubble guys and how this game may have affected their chances of being able to

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Today's the second to last day and tomorrow's and also throughout this other little tidbit this evening, if you happen to be out at the practice, Uh, who's that? I think it's in. Brian and Lindsay are gonna be out on the plaza doing the show. It's gonna start, Dave, you can go out for that. I that this is the first time hearing kid. I wouldn't put it past myself to do that today. Yeah, I'd be like Dave, hurry out, um, but no, it's gonna start up about

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win thirty four nothing over the Houston Texans. Let's start first before we get to some of those bubble guys that I want to go back and recap. I do want to get some opinions from you guys on four players that are top line starter guys and how they performed in this game. Let's start first with Dak Prescott. He was two of five twenty two yards, had a nice touchdown pass. What do you think of Dak this week?

And really tell me what you think of Dak? Kind Of as a whole package of the three preseason games, dedn't didn't get a lot of action in either of them individually, but when you put them all together, what do you think of his preseason? Well, then they moved the ball and I think every every time, and they did have a three and out, I guess in that

first drive against Houston. But for the most part I thought he did it was efficient, and you know, you got to remember that there's no Zeke, there's no Tyrn Smith for some of those games, Sack Martin and all of them, and you know in Amari Cooper, I don't think played any of them as well. So he did a nice job just kind of moving the ball and doing with you know, the best with what he had. Yeah,

I thought he looked fantastic, honestly, and you know that's coming. Sorry. Sorry, it looked like both of y'all were kind of often space like thinking about this. Maybe you went down a trail and I was. I was one hundred percent here. I was just waiting to see if she was going to talk first. Um, thank you. I thought I thought he looked fantastic, you know, and he had he had

some consistencies in California. I said that he's up and down practice player, but he really he translates it to the game so well, because yeah, I mean they went three and out to start the Houston game. It looked like him and Gallup miscommunicated on the first throw of the night. You know, he threw what looked like maybe was supposed to be a comeback and Gallup rand a post. But h one hundred and eighty eight yards of offense on four possessions when Dak was in there eleven and fourteen. Yeah,

I mean he had four possessions two hundred yards. Basically, they moved the ball three out of the four times touchdown, field goal, two touchdowns in a field goal. Excuse me. They ran for five yards a carry while he was the quarterback. He spread the ball around. He got it to Pollard, he got it to Witt, and he got it to Gallop. He got it to everybody in between. Like, I don't know what else you could want from him.

Based on I think thirty plays, that's that was the snap count for the preseason, and they looked pretty damn good. Thank you, Amber. Tell me about Michael Gallop. He had a touchdown catch in this game. It's been really good in training camp too. I would say he's probably been among the top five players throughout training camp. What do you think of him? Not only in this game, but I guess throughout the preseason. I think he makes his game look effortless, and that's something that you want in

a receiver. You don't see him struggling. He's able to open up that catch that he had right there. I didn't think that was gonna be a catch and he just it wasn't that you need to throw him the ball right in his hint. He's a kind of receiver that's able to grab the ball and get it. And as far as Dak, I mean, I love the connection that he's been having with all his players. He looks like he has he has regained that confidence on the field. Whatever John Kidna has been doing with him, it's working

and he looks good. What's unfortunate is the first mistake he did on the game. In the game, you start hearing people, Oh and he's asking for forty million, you know. So we'll see how much money he ends up getting at the end of the day. But right now I think that that I feel pretty good with the passing game and the development that he's been having with the receivers. Lets me want to talk about Malie Collins, he had

the big hit that ended Lamar Lamar season. What do you think of him right now just as a as a player and going into this year from everything you've seen again a top five guy during training camp. But we've never wondered about his talent. He's always had talent. He's always flashed. Do you think there's something different about this year. Yeah, he's borderline unblockable right now, and that's that's what's different. He's been a really good player, but

right but he's just been so disruptive. I mean that that was kind of nasty, the way he just kind of got through and just you know, I only think Lamar Miller even knew, didn't expect that there to be a defensive tackle there to knock him off his feet like that. So he's been that way all camp. I mean, he's probably been the best player, most consistent of training camp, all year, all camp, and right now he's I mean, he was disruptive in Hawaii. They couldn't block him the

other night. You know, I just hope he can stay healthy. That's that's been the thing with him his whole career. You know, even he had a great rookie year. He was still dealing with a foot that he broke in June. He's had issues with his feet and his legs, his knees like all all through his career, and obviously it's hindered him. If he can stay healthy. It's all. It's right there on tape for you to go look at.

Like he was unbelievable the other night. He was living in their backfield for however many snaps he got, it probably wasn't more than ten. He was as good as jj Watt was on the other side, really, and jj Watt was living back there too. Almost it's a contract year for him, Like you can't understand how big it is, Like he could be playing for a huge payday either here or somewhere else if he can stay healthy, and

lord knows what it could mean for this defense. If he is a six to twelve sack type of three technique, like we haven't really seen that here since Jason Hatcher had his blow up year, which coincidentally enough was in a contract year. So I do think that stuff matters, and like a man, if he can translate it to three healthy months, there's no telling what it could mean

for him and for this defense. Tony Pollard. You know what's crazy about sorry about him is that despite the success he's been having so far, he's not allowing that to get into his head. And it's weird because I know he doesn't necessarily want to be talking to the media. He thinks that he's going to be criticized. I'm like, dude, criticize like you've been having a great training camp. You know,

you've been doing so well. But I think that that's a good thing coming from him, that he keeps you grounded and keeps him kind of focused on what he needs to do instead of allowing this success to get into his head and maybe messing up his game a little bit. I think he's the most low key player on this team. Like even like we talk all the time about how Tyrant Smith's not a big talker, MALIEK. Collins is more low key than that. I'm not one hundred percent sure I know what its voice sounds like.

And I've covered his entire And then the minute that Dak and his agent and the Cowboys shake hands and take the picture and with the jersey and all that stuff, whenever that deal's done, they're gonna be back on the phone. Before too long because he's he also represents Malik, so you know they'll be trying to maybe get a deal done with him. But the way Malik is is playing right now, he seems like he could be He would

be a top ten free agent guy next year. I think if if, if he didn't get draft, if he did get signed, and yet he has the potential to be one of those like kind of out of nowhere major free agents, a lot like Jason Hatcher. I mean, he's younger than Hatcher was because Hatcher signed a deal here too, But yeah, I mean he could. He could get really good money if he can put together like a Pro Bowl caliber season. Talk to me about Tony Pollard.

He had a six six rushing yard I mean sorry, six receptions for twenty six rushing yards four point three average. What do you think of him? Somebody, somebody stopped me from acting a fool here. Somebody go first, because I don't want to do this, like I don't want to be the guy that buys the preseason hype. But man,

he's fun. He looks so damn impressive and he looks like he gets it and you know, back him during the drifts like well, they can't ask this guy to run through the tackles, and then he's rockets up the

depth chart of training camp. And it's like I said that last night, somebody asked me on Twitter's like the reason, in my opinion, at least the reason Darius Jackson and Mike Weber kind of fell by the wayside, in my opinion, is a week into training camp, they're like, all right, let's bring Pollard along and we'll see where this goes.

And maybe he can do this and maybe he can do that, but we've got these other guys we want to see too, And like by the time the Blue White scrimmage rolled around, it was like, never mind, we're good, Like we're fine, especially if Zeke comes back. Like we don't need just i mean, no offense to those guys, but a guy just for the sake of having a guy, because Tony Pollard can do all of that, and every

time he gets an opportunity, he's shown that ability. I will say, when the starting Houston defense was in it looked a little bit tougher for him. I mean he was averaging like one yard per carry on the you know, while JJ Watt was in there. But he's got patience, he's got explosiveness. That twenty yard run he had where he basically sort of tap danced in the hole until

something came open, I mean that was beautiful. Yeah, And the screen pass that was called back for the Jason Witten's blocking the back, I mean, I thought he did a nice job there of you talked to about the patience of kind of waiting for the blockers to come and then you know, to get past them and then

you know, using the angles. And I really think if there wasn't a penalty, I think they would have had to replay that and see did he actually get into the you know and touch the pilon looked like he did. You know, it might have been a touchdown play. But I do think Jason Witten his blocks were the legal and there was like knocked out two guys there, so I don't know if he would have scored without it. I'm I'm not ready to, Like, I don't want to be the guy that's like they don't need Zeke because

I know how good Zeke is. But like watching this dude, I'm like mixing a little Alfred Morris with what this guy's doing, and like I'm intrigued, like mixing Zeke with what Yeah, I know, Yeah, I'm not trying to fire the guy. I'm just saying like I'm I'm intrigued, Like he looks so much better than I would have even thought. And that was I mean, Steven Jones compared him to Alvin Kamara the day they drafted him. But saying it

and doing it is different, and he looks impressive. Jimsy a different a different feel like he doesn't have that bulkiness that Zeke has and he's not gonna be able to push against those defenders and get those extra yards. But I feel he looks light, like he moves around

with something like a little feather like. I don't know if I'm not doing a very good job describing this, but you know, he's able to move around and make those cuts like Nick said, and it's just you get a little taste of what Zeke can do for you in a way. You know they're using him in the passing game, they're using in the running game, so but it's just at a different level. And to see him this early in the stage that he's at, it's it's so encouraging that he's able to do all these things

this early on. Yeah, that's one of the things that I've been talking about that can be the risk for Zeke here if he decides he wants to try missing a game. The risk here is that Tony Pollard actually looks pretty good and can give them something. And again, he's not gonna be Zeke, nor does he necessarily have to. I made this point to somebody online a little bit earlier, and I think it's actually something a topic we're going

to bring up maybe later this week. You know, what do you think is going to be the best thing that the Cowboys do this season? I am starting more and more to believe it's going to be defense. And if it is defense, then you may not need Zeke to carry the same load that he once had to

carry for this team. Having a guy like Pollard that can hit some home runs for you, even if he's not as consistently the guy that just basically bulls through people some of the runs that you see from Zeke, you may still get what you need out of this running game just to be good enough, and good enough I mean good enough to still be a legitimate playoff team. And then you see where it goes in the playoffs. So my only point is I'm not ready to buy

the hype, like you said in the preseason. What I do think though, is it does create a little bit more intrigue with this whole Zeke thing and how long he's willing to hold out to next point. And y'all know me, like I'm a contrarian for I'm the worst. I know that about myself. Like as much as part of me wants to see that, like I kind of

want to see what it would look like. Just how good can Tony Pollard and Alfred Morispy, Like how much do they really need Zeke at the same time everything you just said, how much better would it be if it was Zeke and Pollard, No doubt. Let's just not mess around with it. Bring get the band back together.

And we've seen Zeke you know, in fourth down and you know, in the fourth quarters and overtime and that play against Green Bay where he had to you know, get the ball out there too, you know for a first down. Those are the things that after you know, getting pounded on for four quarters, he still is able to do that. And you don't know, really a Pollard can do that and get you know, take these big hits,

keep going. He's got an ankle problem, but he's still fighting through it the whole game, carrying guys on his back. Let's see how that. Um, you know, if that's what in every down back is supposed to do and he hasn't been able to prove as it. If he can do that or he can't, yeah, I will throw out this. Though a lot of people try to give the comparison to Alvin Kamara, you can look over there in Carolina and see a guy like this who's carrying the loaf

for his team and Christian McCaffrey. He's a smaller guy, but he can catch out of the backfield, he can make him do a lot of dynamic different things, and he is their primary back. So this is not unheard of in the NFL for a guy with this body type to be the every down type guy. Again, you're not gonna believe it until you see it, but I do think there's enough there right now that gets you intrigued right big time. All right, let's go ahead and

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regular season. Looking good. At this preseason though, let's talk about some of the bubble guys what not than just I know how Dallas b Houston. It's like the greatest thing in your life. No, it's not, don't I would hope necessarily, I would hope. Nobody in Derek's life is like giving him grief about a preseason. They do, though there's a little bit of talk. It's not bad though.

I just texted my cousin. He's like, we're really close and he's a big Texans fan and uh and so I just kind of texted him in the third quarter like seriously, like, I know it's the preseason, but it is it kind of that's the kind of relationship we have because I guarantee if it was happening to us, Oh, of course he'd hit me up and been like, seriously, y'all could have stayed in Dallas, but this is well the worst thing for Houston because not only did they

get trounced by the Cowboys, but they lost their starting running back. I mean, the only thing the good that it came out of that night is that they've got two games against the Colts that might be easier than they were going to be, right maybe. Yeah, And on the flip side, I mean that's what he said. He said, well, at the winner of this division just needs to go eight and eight basically like this is. It got pretty

bad tonight. But I mean, rightfully, so if if the Cowboys were losing thirty four to nothing, no matter what the game was, fans would be losing their minds. Yeah, you know, whether it's preseason or not. I think fans just don't like the idea of getting trounced like that. Just pride should take over at some point, just like we're gonna win the fight. If we're not gonna win, right, you could take a step back. No, Like, nobody should ever lose their minds about anything that happens in a

prese game except for injuries. R which is my whole point. Well, they had a little bit of that too. No, no, no, if I was a Houston fan, I would be I would, well, I'd be pissed because my starting running back was heard, not because they lost thirty four to nothing, right, just insult to injury. Right, Yeah, all right, let's go through some of these guys that were on the bubble and uh, as we laid it out Friday, I basically gave you an either or um and let you guys then tell

me who you think had the inside track. And what I want to know now is based on what you saw this Saturday, who do you think as the inside track? All right, let's start with the safety position. Donovan Wilson versus Cavon Frazier. Don's on the team, Yeah, I mean, and that doesn't mean Cavon won't be we go five, you think they'll go five? Noyon's gonna have to be Darian Thompson. So you don't think Darian Thompson. No, that's where they had he that's the battle now, the interception.

But Donovan Wilson, plus the fact that he's been playing great and he's around the ball, he's on the team. For Cavan to make the team is is he's going to have to be better than Dari and Thompson. And I don't know if that's you told me last week, Daron, Well, I just changed very quickly. I disagree with you. The point of what I meant was, I don't know. If I don't know, I if I guess, I don't think

Cavon's gonna make this team. If he makes the team, it's because for some reason, somebody makes an executive decision that they're going to keep five safeties because I think the other four are basically set in stone and kind of pity, and so maybe Cavon can play his way on because he's so valuable on special teams, or he's

a valuable character guy. I don't know, but he's him and whoever else you want to throw in there, I local whatever, Like they're going to have to convince somebody that they have to have five safeties, which they haven't been doing recently. You have better corners, so I mean, that wouldn't make sense, and you're you're stuck in a situation where you probably want to keep six corners, which

is don't see five safeties on this team. But I know, like Woods, Heath, Thompson and Wilson, like I'm very comfortable, like write that down, all right, So let's talk about those corners Donovan Olumba versus Mike Jackson Amber. You know what I'm struggling with here. It's easy to evaluate someone based on recent memory of the past week or so.

But what, okay question for you guys, when you guys evaluate these guys, do you base it up on what's happened recently or just overall since we start a training camp both? Right? Yeah, because I think Devin Smith is a good example of more recent is probably a part of the equation than just the whole body of work. But I think all of it gets factory, at least for me because look at it because more recently it's

also been more games. I mean, because you could say John v. Johnson has been pretty good on the course of the whole summer, but the last couple of games, last couple of weeks, he's dropped off. So I would say recently is gets weighed in here full body of work with a bias toward what happened recently. That's the way I think of it. Yeah, Yeah, that's what that being said. What do you think about the cornerbacks? Yeah? What are you trying to get to the fact that

you're leaning more toward Alumba because of that, I think so. Yeah, But again that's that's just kind of the struggle I'm having to, like, Okay, do I base it on upon like recent excitement or just be fair and lay it all out and see the progression of everything how it's

been evolving. But I mean, right now where I stand at, I think Colomba for me, I would argue Alumba has been better on both counts, Like he's clearly been better down the stretch, but I like overall and Mike Jackson had some nice practices in California, but like you take the whole five weeks that we've been doing this, I think Alumba has been better overall too. Yeah, I don't. I don't think Alumba's actually going against Mike Jackson anymore.

I really think he's going up against another position. The end of that piece, one of those it's at the end of the roster and you're trying to decide between six corners or do you keep you know, six receivers maybe And when you get to that part, yeah, I will. I'm working on something about the practice squad, just like real quick before you get to that. Just to clarify, Nick are you saying you think Mike Jackson's already on this team and Alma he's off the team, and you

think Alma's the guy that's kind of their teetering. I think between him in another position, do they keep six corners or do they keep you know, five, because the fifth corner of C. J. Goodwin, who is a great special teams player, and he had a nice play on defense at night, and if he doesn't get that interception, Donovan Wilson gets it, so maybe maybe, but he was

right there. Anything like with Mike, you know, for me recently, when I watch him and he'll he'll make a good play or something or do something good, and I'm like, oh, yeah, he's I forgot about him. He's still here. So that's where things started getting tricky, Like you gotta be able to keep on everyone's eyes and not just make flashing plays here and there. Okay, Dave, sorry, you're I just I'm writing a story. I went back and looked at

every week one practice squad of Jason Garrett's career. I'm going to write about it for later in the week, Okay, But Mike Jackson fits the type of guy that winds up on their practice squad all the time, Like they're pretty reliably have a draft pick on their practice squad, Like you can go all the way back to a QUASUSU U wantsa if you want to, we can talk about Borrow Boscarborough last year. They do it all the time.

And Day three pick who has the traits they like, who didn't have as good of a camp as they would prefer. Makes a lot of sense. All right, let's move on. Let's go to this one got really interesting. It was already very interesting, but tackle Charlton versus Joe Jackson versus Jalen Jelks. All of them had moments in that game where they made plays. All of them have been guys that we've discussed on this show as being,

you know, standout guys at times. What do you think about that position and where the Cowboys are versus where they're where they're going. We already know Tank, Quinn, Crawford, Armstrong. We all feel pretty good going to be on this. Keep in mind, Quinn doesn't count towards the fifty three. Got it especially then? I mean it matters because it changes it changes the name of who makes the team. So I mean Taco played his way onto the team. As far as I'm considering concerned, Yeah, he was great.

Uh he's shown like he's been trending in the right direction all camp and then you know those were those were starters out there. I know Houston's a line is kind of a mess, but he wasn't doing that against Scrubs at eight sax well and sorry sack and then going to get the football, you know, I mean even said it, he goes I caused it. I should have gone and go get it. I mean that's what he look at it. Yeah, and I mean everybody touched it once, but I mean he went in there and and made it.

I think that was a great hustle play. And then for him to come back from the injury and still come back into the game make another play on a receiver down the field or running back down the field, I thought that was a great one. I also really loved his I loved his attitude after the game. He's like this, this doesn't mean I haven't done anything. And if they want me to play the fourth game, I will, like I know what it is. I know what's going on. Basically, like,

good for you for not shying away from it. I don't know if he will play, especially since he hurt his ankle, but I appreciate him at least saying that. I just you take a hit if you cut him because of the money, Like they're still guarantees on his deal, and you definitely don't want the embarrassment of having him go be good for somebody else. And on top of that, he's been pretty good. So I just think all that combines to put him on the team. You mentioned what

he said after the game. Over the last two or three weeks, I've actually grown kind of like him. Before I was kind of ambivalent, Like it wasn't like I disliked him, but I just was kind of like, he's just taco. But what he said in the locker room after I was at the San Francisco game, I think he was, and then what he said after this game, it just he just has a spirit about him. In my opinion, that's just kind of like, look, man, I

know everybody ain't on my side. I know everybody isn't necessarily any on the preface that by saying there are a lot of times you hear guys that talk like that, when they're saying things like everybody's against me, and you can hear the bitterness in them. Yeah, I don't hear that at all from him. It's just more like, I know, man, and I'm a first round pick that comes with the territory, and it's just my job to change that. It's my job to go out there and do my very best.

And to me, I just kind of like that attitude it. I like that spirit about it. I think a lot of people over on the football side of the building would tell you that some of the biggest stuff in his way is maturity and mindset, and it seems like he might be turning that corner, which is encouraging, you know what I like and based on the things how we hear him talk and express himself as to like, you know, it is what it is type of deal. Regardless of that, he showed that he does care because

I was on the sideline there. He got her on that first When he got her on that plate, he came out, the doctors are looking at his foot. You know, he shows that he's in pain a little bit. He's telling him like, no, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. He was the one who made the decision to go back out there. He went back out there, he did what he did. Then he gets hurt again, and now it's to the point where he's not able to put pressure, like put pressure on the foot, and he was limping

around now. But I like seeing his drive and willingness to be on the field and being mindful that he is and you know you might not be here and he's aware of that. And he showed competitiveness. How do you say that competitivenessness? Yeah? There, you like it? All right, We're gonna go ahead and finish it up for today. We have a few more of these we're gonna hit. We'll come back tomorrow and we'll hit some more of these. Make sure you stay tuned with Hanging with the Boys.

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