The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, Let's go. Are you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and Bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Tuesday, January third, twenty twenty three, Season eighteen, episode number ninety nine. Welcome
to the latest edition of The Break. We're life from s WBC Mortgage Studios at the start, presented by Middle of Light, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys a day. We're gonna get you guys ready for the final week of the season. But before we do that, I do need to very quickly. I just wanted to be able to say our prayers are with Damar Hamlin safety for
the Buffalo Bills. We know, I'm sure most of us, I'm sure everyone at this point has seen or heard would happen to him last night during the Monday night game. Sad situation, obviously, but we will be praying for this young man. Hopefully all works out for him and all works out for his family, because I'm sure this is a tough situation and a tough time for his family as well as they are waiting to see how he progresses through this. So I wanted to go ahead and
get that out there. And I know if you guys had anything to say on it, but I'm sure it was something that we all watched and probably were horrified by, as I'm sure everybody out there listening. His family just released a statement. What was the statement? On behalf of our family. We want to express our sincere gratitude to the love and support shown to Damar during this challenging time. We were deeply moved by the prayers, the kind words,
the donation from fans around the country. We won't all. I want to acknowledge the dedication of first responders and healthcare professionals the University of Cincinnati Medical Center who have provided exceptional care to DeMar. We feel blessed to be part of the Buffalo Bills organization and to have their support. We'd also like to thank Coach Taylor and the Bengals for everything they've done. Your generosity and compassion means the world to us. Please keep DeMar in your prayers well,
release an update as soon as we have them. It's from the Hamlin family. Awesome. It's it's eleven o'clock this morning for us. You know. I know a lot of people listen at all times, and so there may be some more updates as the day goes on, but it is eleven o'clock where we are. I'll say this, and I don't if I speak if I'm not speaking for you guys, because you guys might have a different opinion, and I know a lot of other people have opinions too. I think the NFL did a remarkable job in what
they did yesterday. And that's just my opinion based off of what we know. We all kind of know the same thing of what we hear, but and not only that, but you know, kind of for what we do from a media standpoint, those people at ESPN, I thought they they they did a great job as well, you know, watching the game's very very difficult situation to sit there and talk when nothing else in the world matters, but what's going on here and you don't know anything about it.
And I thought, you know, from from Scott Van Pelt obviously and Ryan Clark, very passionate about it, Booker McFarland, Adam Schefter, Susie Kolber. I mean, of course, Joe Buck and Eightman as well. I mean, it's it's tough. It's tough to do that and keep going and keep going different analogous assaulters. I'm sorry for leaving out her because she was right there on the scene and you know, and I heard a lot of people say, well, why are we still watching this? Why don't they switch it to?
You know? And I'm like, this is what news is. Yeah, when when when tragedy hits, I mean, you sit there and you watch the news, and those and the best ones just have to keep going and keep figuring out different ways to say the same thing over and over. And basically what you're saying is I don't know that situation doing the best they can. And frankly and my
wife said the same thing. We were watching it and she's like, I don't know why they won't just get away from this, And I said, the reason why, and the reason why I don't want them to is because in moments like this, I know there's no update yet, but I want somebody to make me understand this, like paint the picture for me, because we're all sitting here with bated breath, trying to figure out what's going to happen, How is this young man doing right and so, And
that's the situation. Whenever you get into a situation, when there's a trying time. I think we all as people, as humans, we want to be communal. We want to be able to get with other people who are experiencing the same thing and be able to kind of figure this all out. And that's why what they did last night was so important. And I thought, as you mentioned all those names, they did a phenomenal job of painting the picture for us and keeping us as up to
date as they could under some really tough circumstances. Well, and the people of the first responders that were there that performed CPR on him, the quickness for that to happen, because we've seen the injuries when they have and granted, some of the guys on the floor are still kind of moving around, but we've seen times where it takes a minute for someone to get out there and do something where you're still wondering what is it. Are they really hurt or just kind of trying to get back
up or whatever. But for his heart to have stopped those crucial seconds, like the way they that, how quickly they acted, it's amazing and definitely praying for him. And it's just it was it was very difficult to see something like that happen. Yeah, I was. We were watching the game too, and I told my wife, I said, the way that they ran onto the field, the way that those those trainers ran onto the field, that's unusual. And now, what we didn't see until later, if you
saw the replays, is how he actually felt. Because if you just watch the collision, you hear it. I mean, it was so violent, and then then you watch it and then and then, but not till the replays that they never showed again. You had to watch that on social media. But the way he felt that that's what scared. Yeah, And I didn't see that. All I saw all I saw in them. It was just the way that they rushed there, and it's like, this seems a little weird.
And then he kind of, you know, doing something else to come back. They're still there and you're like and then it's this wide angle. But I'll let me say one more thing about the about the NFL and a lot of people are saying, well, they took an hour to make a decision. You don't know that it took an hour for them to announce it. You don't know if it took an hour for them to make that decision.
And also you're talking about billion dollars decisions here. I mean, like, I get it's not as important as the life, but when you there's a lot of factors involved here, and I don't know if it took one hour to say we're not playing. I have no idea about the five minute thing. I don't know if that's a real deal or not. Well, I'll tell you this, Troy Vincent came out and made a statement and said there was never a decision made back at the league about this five
minute thing. He said that would be insensitive and that's not who we are. And I'll tell you this just from the personal interactions I've had with Troy Vincent, he an honorable man. If he tells me that, I trust it, because I trust him and know him to be an honorable man from at least the interactions that I've had with him. But I agree with you, like, that's also the thing about our society, and it's sometimes it can be a little unfair, I think, but it's a human nature.
Something happens, and everybody wants to take it out on someone or something, there has to be an object for it. And and last night and last night it happened. There were a few targets last night, and some of them brought it on themselves. I'm not gonna get into all that, but there were some targets last night, and I think that's what happens. Yeah, we're gonna skip past that one. But but that's part of it. Like I think, when people are in those moments, you're looking for somebody to
take it out on. And and that to me is human nature. It's just a part of it. So don't be that object, Like, don't turn yourself into that target, because that's it's very it's very much just part of human nature for people to want to take it out on someone. I had a few drafts writing something that I'm like, I'm not doing this. I'm not I'm not I'm not going there. I mean, it's stupid. I mean,
there's there's all because we don't really know everything. You know, you don't really know, but man, there was a lot of there's a lot of arm waving going on. I thought last night, well, I'll tell you this, and I think this is something I've learned from working here. Be careful when you just run out to say anything good
or bad. You just have to be very very careful because you don't if you don't know the facts, or if you think you know the facts but you're not quite sure, just it's better to say nothing and just kind of leave it and let it all play out, because it will. It will all play out. You don't have to be first to be the one out there saying whatever. You just need to just let it play out. But all that being said, we are praying for Damar Hamlin.
I've been praying for him some since last night. I'm a believer in prayer, and I believe that, you know, we'll keep praying for this young man and all will work out and we'll see how it goes. But amazing also, by the way, to see the amount of support he's
gone he has. His charity, Yeah, that's basically he started when he was trying to get into the NFL to donate toys for when the pandemic started, to give kids toys for Christmas, and his goal was twenty five hundred dollars and now is up to like three million dollars, over three million dollars. Just amazing. Everyone just donating five bucks, ten bucks, so everything helps, and it's amazing to see
the amount of support he's been getting. Yeah, you know, you're trying to figure out all what happened here, and there's there's cardiologists that are coming out and doing videos about and they're talking about you know, heartbeats and if you're hit at the right time. Um, you know, being on the radio, having to do some more research about this, potentially talking about it as this subject. It happens in hockey when hockey players get hit in the chest with
the puck. Matter of fact, an amateur player I was doing reading a story about you know, him getting hit and you know, similar what happened last night. You see a shot to the chest and then cardiologists talking about did you catch it just at the right time between heartbeats and then it sets you off into a cardiac situation, and so you know that's something that again, you know my experience, the University of Cincinnati one of the best
trauma trauma places ever. When you start to talk about things like this, so you know, you talked about being at the right time. I remember Gil Haskell when he got hurt on the sidelines with Green Bay and they're talking about head trauma, being in Dallas, the care that he was able to get. Um, you know, if there's any type of silver lining, it was trainers going onto the field, people understanding the situation, not panic, and being
able to do their jobs. Uh you know, I mean, heck, let's be honest here, you had a situation here in your weight room two years ago, but you lost somebody, you know, but trainers trying to save you know, And that's that's the thing that that's you know, you you you're thankful for that. They're people that can come in and do these things and maybe make the situation a little bit better until they can get him to further.
But the universe is Cincinnati's outstanding, and I'm sure that they're they're doing everything in their in their power to to to get him back to quick as health as they can. Absolutely. All right, So here's we're gonna do. We're gonna take our first break really quickly here. When we come back, we're gonna talk some Cowboys football. We gotta talk about some playoffs. Get a game for you too. It's some's some you got a game for meday. Let's do it all right, So we're gonna have when we
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the Cowboys could possible from. Just brought to you by somebody. Ah, this is brought to you by blockchain dot Com. Thank you, Brian, thank you. All right, the playoff scenarios, they're three different players. Thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. That's why we got the four of us. Somebody should remember me preferably, but yeah, it works when when I don't and you can jump in there right. So here are the three scenarios.
The first, Currently, the Cowboys are in the fifth seed, and if Philadelphia should win this weekend versus the Giants or if Dallas should lose this weekend at Washington, everything stays the same for the Cowboys. They are still the number five seed and they will be traveling to Tampa Bay to take on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Now here's scenario two. If Dallas should win and Philadelphia loses, and San Francisco wins versus Arizona, Dallas moves to the number
two seed. Then they will face either in this order based upon the who wins this weekend, Green Bay, Seattle, or Detroit. All those all those opponents would then come to Dallas or one of those opponents would come to Dallas to play the Cowboys. Scenario three, if Dallas wins, Philadelphia loses, and San Francisco loses, Cowboys then moving to the number one seed. They will then have a buy in week one and then from there see what happens.
A question for you guys is what do you think is more likely this weekend the five and that's the most likely scenario that Philly will win. Then they'll they'll beat the Giants. I don't know who the Giants are playing. I know what their coach said, but we'll see what happens. You believe that, I don't know. I kind of do. I don't know. I think he's trying to build a different culture. And I'll tell you why. It goes all over back to week one for me, he went his
first coaching gig, first job with the Giants. In Week one. They're playing in Tennessee, and what does he do. He goes for a two point conversion in the win. I think that, you know, this is a team that hasn't been to the playoffs. I think since twenty sixteen. A lot of bad football all going on there. This is just my thought about him and you. You'd be absolutely right, Nick. I'm just trying to play the other side of it. I'm not trying to say no, you don't know what
the hell you're talking about. I'm just I'm just saying to me, sometimes these coaches. The Giants were in the game in two thousand and seven where they played, and I know it's way back, but we liked in Cowboys fans, we'd like to go way back in history and try and correlate to two things. The Giants did a game
against New England. It was they were undefeated at the time in two thousand and seven, and they played the game to Coughlin, played the game to try and win, and then it mid nothing for the Giants, by the way, Yeah yeah, and they and they almost won the game. They lost like thirty eight thirty five, And you're sitting there thinking, and so it's like, okay, you know, it's a game that the Giants tried to play. They tried
to win. What happened to him, His fate ran them through the playoffs, It ran them through Tampa, Dallas, Green Bay, and then they got to play the Patriots again and won the game. If you go back and look and they listen to them talk about that particular game, they will tell you that Super Bowl. They will tell you the fact that they played them and tried to win the game the last week of the season helped them win. Now, they got some huge breaks along the way, don't you know.
But you know, to me, they're locked into the sixth seed no matter what. So you know, if you want to rest, that's their priority, prerogative to do that. Yeah, yeah, But they also to for somebody that's trying to build culture in a program and they got rolled by the Eagles, you know, a couple of weeks ago. Even if they try to play I think they could be Yeah, well they let's play it well to me? To me, then, to me, I think you're going to get a different
Jalen Hurts for the playoffs. That se joint is something that they can't medicate. And if they want to go into a game plan of trying to win a game with him running for eighty yards in that game, that might be a mistake. That might be a mistake for them. So to me, if you could say Jalen and he's throwing the ball well this year, he's throwing the ball well enough, I think there's a ton of pressure on
the Eagles right now. They should have had this and clinch three weeks ago and they couldn't get it done. So to me, if I'm the Giants, I play it, I try. You know what, let's go for it. Let's see if we could beat these guys. It proved our record, give us a little bit more momentum. They haven't been playing great. The Giants haven't been playing great, So you know, for them to get the victory this last week, maybe get another one. And I'm not just seeing it as
a cowboy homer. I'm just thinking about from a giant's perspective of their coaching staff looking at their team and saying, you know what, this would be a good opportunity to build a couple and go back to back at some games and go figure out how to win a game at you know, Minnesota or San Francisco, wherever they have to go. I think sometimes when you see I mean, I do find it hard to believe or to think that Philly would lose this weekend. But do you feel
like they were gonna lose to the Saints. No? But but I know I get it. They say, we've seen it, we've seen it where when the other team that's quote unquote the less talented team, it's playing for something that doesn't really matter that much. You know, they're just going out there having fun, playing trying to not get hurt. Sometimes they win, like those teams can't win against opponents like the Eagles right now, And man, you have no idea.
I talk about prayer, that's another prayer, that's another prayer, because oh my god, oh my god, how good? How good? With that freaking be? Because I am telling you I don't hate. Hate is a very strong word, but sports there's something to hate. I would say Eagles fan are kind of making a good run for it. Man. God, That's why I've been hating Twitter lately because I cannot get an Eagles fan off my timeline one way or another.
So something crazy for like this crazy because three weeks ago, I don't think any of us ever imagine this scenario to even be a possibility for the Cowboys. So that's amazing. And I think the Cowboys are gonna go out to Washington and I think they're they're gonna play a good game. Washington's gonna give them some some hard times there, but
I think that they're capable of winning against Washington. And I do think, weirdly enough that the Giants, regardless of their situation, they're gonna go out there and we'll make it competitive for the eat. Nick's probably gonna be right that you know about this though. Nick's probably gonna be right that the Philadelphia is gonna just smash the child has been like they will. But because that's I still think they're a pretty good team. When they're all healthy.
Now they're not all healthy, But I still think that they've been good enough. I think that they'll win that game. But and even if they don't, what I mean, are we sure the Cowboys are gonna go win this game Washington now and they're out of it, and see, I
don't know what Washington does. Maybe they I mean, maybe they'll play their better quarterback where they benched that is, I honestly don't know why they thought it was a better idea to go back to Carson Wentz unless they felt like that what Carson Wentz did in that blowout loss to San Francisco gave them hope that he could come back. And when they put him in when they
were getting blown out, his numbers were not terrible. And maybe they fooled the coaching staff and Ron Rivera there that like, listen, you know what our guy, Heineke's turning over the ball. Carson didn't look bad against the forty nine ers. You know that that would be if if he came out and said that, then I would better understand. I'm just speculating right now. I am totally speculating because Carson Wentz in the blowout loss maybe because there's no pressure,
maybe he didn't have to bring anybody back. Maybe it was just one of those things they just called San Francisco's defense. San Francisco was yeah, exactly. But he showed enough, he showed enough throwing the ball that maybe that Ron Rivera and Scott Turner and those guys over there said, man, he wasn't bad against a really good San Francis School defense. But nobody's thinking about, well, the game was in hand.
You know, maybe they've given him some stuff. I would believe that if you, if you got him all in a room and ask him, I believe that's what they would probably tell you. Here's the thing I think, going back to the Eagles, I think Jalen Hurts, We're gonna find out a lot about what's going on with this Eagles team because we'll first have to find out will
he play with Minshew in there. I don't think they're necessarily the better team Giants, But if he plays, the question becomes how much does this this injured shoulder on his throwing arm of effects ability to throw? Yeah, because one thing, and you can people can say what they want to say about Jalen Hurts and is throwing ability. He's been throwing the ball well this he has, he's been putting it on the on the money, and he's been taking advantage of those wide receiver options he's got
out there. If he can't do that at the same level that he's been doing it earlier this season, they go back to being who they were last year. And last year I don't think they were as good of a team as the best team in the NFL, and their record says they are now. So we're about to find out something about the Eagles. I think this week again, Yeah, and that's where to me, I actually think this. If I had to handicap it, I would say it's more likely Dallas ends up in the number seed, number two seed.
This week. I think Dallas wins. I think Philadelphia doesn't win, and I think Arizona, I think San Francisco does win, and I think Dallas ends up in the second seed, and then they end up playing Aaron Rodgers. And my question for you, that's actually gonna be the next question, but I knew you were gonna say that. But the next question is which you think is a better matchup for Dallas having to go for you today? Sorry, having to go to Jampa Bay or being at home against
Green Bay Green Bay. I mean, I mean, the thing is is that And I got to ask this on the radio the other day too. It's not you can't just separate it like that. This isn't a bowl game where you just say which matchup do you want? It's what it means. It means you go to the five and you go and try to beat Tom Brady, which you've never won before. Then you definitely have to go on the road. A well, not definitely, but you probably have to go on the road again. If you're in
the number two seed. You gotta beat a guy that you have beaten before and you lost in overtime too on a you know, on a game you should have won at their place. You gotta beat him and then you then you're definitely gonna be at home again. So I mean, it's not so much the matchup. To me, I get the matchup, But to me it's the it's the it's what it means. I'll take the number two with Green Bay all day long, even though he's he's top,
he's he's tough with so's Tom Brady. But if you want to project does it matter at all who that second that second round matchup would be, because the likelihood is, if you win that first one against Tampa Bay, if you're the fifth seed, the next round you gotta go to Philadelphia. If you win that one at home against Green Bay, likelihood is next round you gotta have San Francisco comes. Does that matter to you? There's the side of you that that I love the fact that there
wouldn't be San Francisco. It would be it would be the three. It wouldn't be sanc Oh, I'm sorry, San Francisco be the one. You're right, Yeah, yeah, it would
be it would be the dance in Minnesota. That's that's what that's Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's your If you're a cowboy fan and you want to think about if you want to think about knocking San Francisco or Philly out, you honestly don't want to play Green Bay because they're the seven seed and you let them go and knock out the two seed, which you know, whoever that is, you let a knock out that in San Francisco, Like, yeah, yeah,
if you're the five, it's gonna be Green Bay. Maybe what time is that game they're the night game, which is an interesting thing. Good did you did you know? You know the scenario there? Right? So basically set Seattle, Yeah, Seattle, they have a three o'clock game. Yeah. So it's it's one of situations where I let me get this right. If Seattle wins, then they still aren't in. If Detroit, Detroit then has to beat Green Bay in order for them to in order for Seattle to get in. So
that means Detroit's playing for nothing at seven o'clock. If if Seattle wins, they're just playing, and the question becomes, are they gonna play it? Give it everything to go out there and beat a Green Bay? Yeah? Right, that's the interesting part, right, that's the interesting part. See. So it's it's there's some a little bit of Seattle's a little bit Seattle has. Seattle has no reason to cry
right now for anything. They were owing four against the NFC South, they lost to Carolina Atlanta, they lost to the weakest division in the National Football League. They were owing four. So don't don't give me any well, they're playing this, they're playing that kind of yeah for me. When you look at those two opponents, Green Bay in Tampa, you talk about Tom Brady. I feel that I would rather take my chances against Tom Brady. But what concerns
me is being on the road and the Cowboys. Out of the four losses, three of those came on the road, so they've show them too. And yeah, exactly, yeah, I've only lost one at home and then three came Oh wait yeah, but these last two years, it's been pretty close to the point where you, okay, you feel that you can beat him. Now beyond that, my biggest concern and something that I'm kind of scared of, is how different the Cowboys defense currently looks compared to when they
faced Tom Brady and when they faced Aaron Rodgers. So the issues that you're having defensively, I'm that's okay. Part of me thinks I have We've gotten very close and it's competitive enough to where they can beat them. But can the actual like the current Cowboys defense do enough to go up against those two quarterbacks. I don't think you could really stop Green Bay's running game. I don't know if you could stop Tampa's wide receivers. That's how you That's how I'm a judging this thing. I agree,
And let's also flip it swip that. I do think Tampa Bay's defense is markedly better than Green Bay's defense. You can move the ball, I think on Green Bay exactly. So you're going to you play Green Bay, Hey, it's just gonna be a shootout similar to what it was, and you got to come out on top. You play Tampa Bay, their offense probably is going to be clicking because they're starting to figure it out, and their defense
is gonna be hard. Yeah, there's a lot more of a challenge I think having to go to Tampa Bay, I don't care what their record is than having Green
Bay coming. The problem is if it's a close game and it comes down to the last drive, you're pretty much ft because you know, you really are, you know, because if even if you like okay, you don't get that third down and you have to pun and there's a minute too and we've seen clock management issues here and leaving time and leaving timeouts and all that stuff like that. You know, it's hey, listen this either way, I'm gonna take my chances playing at home. Yeah, I'm
just gonna take I'm eight and one at home. I'm gonna take my chances playing at home this year that's what I'm gonna do. I mean, the best situation would be you know, I mean, well, the best situation will be number one. If the Raiders would have you know, won that game, that would have changed everything. But you know, I mean, what if who's to say that the Detroit doesn't beat him? I mean, Detroit's playing well. I mean I don't see it. No one, no one expects that,
no one sees it. And it could be Seattle too, I mean could be. That would be the best situation. If you're not number one, it's to be number two and Seattle comes to town, you're ideal. But because you know what I told myself last year, wasn't ever going to do that again because I really cheered for the forty nine ers to win that game so they could come play Dallas, and that was a bad move. So who knows. Who knows if you'd be sitting there next to me and going, you know, Smith hasn't thrown any
completion and circle. By the way, He's had some games this year where you're like, man is this you know, Smith like, he's played well this year. And they definitely can run the ball, and they got receivers, they can
run the wall. Well, yeah, I was just thinking of Green Bay getting in the tournament at seven and just knocking off all those teams and then somehow you find a way, if hind enough to keep winning, to play them, and to play them at home in the champions But you get the game at you know, you get the game at home. You might get your early games at home.
But because you're five and they're seven, that maybe you get the chance to host a game, yeah, the championship game, because they're knocking guys off for you and you're you're playing the Giants. And about this scenario. So you're you're the five, you know, the five seed, and seven the Green Bay gets in. As the seven goes and beats San Francisco seven verses two and then six verses three,
the Giants go and beat Minnesota. Yeah, they had them on the ropes the other Now San Francisco goes to Philly and the Giants come to Dallas in a six five game. Yep, yeah, let's go. Yeah, that's your hope. We're seeing the Giants, a team that you've beaten handily took two times come to your place in the playoffs. But I'll take that again. They they they've they've dominated the Giants in both games. Score wasn't as I mean, the game wasn't close as a score. I'll take my
chances with the Giants again in the playoffs. You have to over anything else. Yeah, over the rest of the Yeah, because you look at the rest of the field and you don't like him against Philadelphia this weekend. No, that's what I'm saying, Like, that's my point. I don't. I don't respect them to the point where I don't. I don't think they're gonna go beat Philly. I really don't. I think Philly will figure it out. Philly's too good
to Philadelphia's offense is gonna look dramatically different. Now is that quarterback? They can't medicate that that that sc joint, that that ac joint. You can medicate that thing. You can't medicate his whole game, which is his ability to run too. That's what I'm saying, take that away exactly, you take you take fifty to one hundred yards away from them running. Yea, Dallas played without them. Dallas played without him in the game, they played without him, and
where they get three yards to carry? Yeah, who's gonna win MVP in the league is it? Is it? I mean, I don't know. Jalen hurts, we should should get some votes now, I mean he's gonna get votes. He should get more votes now. I mean this is what this is what true value when you look at I think he should. Quite frankly, I think he should because I do think Michael it starts wrong, Michael was wrong. Yeah. I mean when you just when you think about what what happens, I like, maybe he does come back and
they win the game and they play. I mean, you get a chance to really see the value. And Brian, you said it a while ago. I don't know if you said it on the air, but I remember you said it way back in like middle of the November. You're like, how good the Eagles are. You're like, oh, we'll see. It'll see what happens if they lost their quarterback for five weeks? Yeah, could they win the same And right now they're not not? You know, so I think I think you got to give McCarthy a little
bit more credit. That's what we were talking about Coach of the Year thing, because I have no love for Nick SERIANTI at all. Well, I mean on the radio, we would say it's a punchable face. I could see him giving it to the Giants guy. Yeah, how about Jackson Doug Peterson, I actually think he should win, to be honest with you, Jacksonville. When you think about what the Giants were last year to what they and they
didn't change a lot of that personnel. To me, the Giants, I think, I think it's clear day ball as you're you're coach, That's why it's gonna What about what about? What about Shanahan and San Francisco? I mean, well, that's a team that's lost their quarterback can continue with its win. They haven't lost with brought Purdy at quarterback. I don't believe debo and Debos hasn't hasn't been playing. So yeah, that's a well built team and it and knows what
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Get your tickets SeatGeek dot Com Welcome back. Final segment of The Break Life from the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Brian got a game four? I do, I do? I do? Anna bar Garcia, You're ready? Everything good, everything? All right? What do you got? What do you got? How about this one to start today for you? You can have you can have this guy back for sure for the playoffs, Layton vander esh or Tyler Battish who you're taking? Mm Layton, I think the defense needs it
a lot more. I think, well, hold on now, I gotta think of like a whole game with Jason Peters in there. Okay, all right, I thought it was huh h are we playing? You're in the You're in the playoffs. I know, I know. But that's that's a tough one. That's a really it's a really tough question because I think who your playing definitely matters there with on defense. You play San Francisco, I mean I definitely would want uh Layton vander Esh out there in San Francisco run
that football. That's a tough one. I mean that's what you do. Yeah, stop it, you know, but but huh, that's the thing. It's like, I don't. We haven't seen the game where you have Jason Peters going in the whole goal game. Are we sure that we'd have to do that? I mean, you got Matt Farniac that's starting up his window now. Can you use him? Can you use him at guard? Maybe? Could you use him at center? Maybe?
I don't be honest as my answer, because I can Daman Clark and they can figure it out a little bit. I'm going to be hotish. I never thought i'd say it, but I'm going to be hotest I'm not. I want my I need my defense to get back to what they were earlier this season. And to me, that means I gotta get LV back and I gotta get Hankins back, because it has to start with me being able to stop the run, and those two components, to me, are
the biggest factors in stopping the run. If you can do that, then it creates a lot less pressure on that secondary because that's what would you rather have Hankins and Daman Clark Because if you get it Hankins back, then you would yourather have Moan Clark or would you rather have Farniyac and Jayson Peter. I mean, I don't know. Frankly, I look at it like what I'm doing is I'm limiting both Clark and bar They will now have some split reps. I got lv In there, lv In there
more than either one of them, in my opinion. So for me, I look at it and say, I just want to limit that a little bit. I don't need both of them out there most of the game, you know, I just I just look at it like I need my defense back, and I need my rush defense back more than anything else, and I need those two players now, you know, the secondary still need to help. So I'm with you. I think I would rather just have lat
In back. But the thing that concerns me is we're I do feel that the Cowboys offense is starting to click. They're starting to show really really good moments and thin and things working. So it concerns me if it changed like that, even though it worked like they and Connor mc govern credit to him, he did a really really good job going in like that and Jason Peters coming in, um, but even then, does that change like that for whole game kind of throws things off. What would you choose, Brian?
I would take the defender myself, I would take I would you're gonna have to play some defense in these playoff games, I think I would take the defender. By the way, I'm hearing very positive things. It's gonna be tight on Tyler Bodish by the way, for the playoffs. For the playoff game, Yeah, it's gonna be tight. From what I heard. They're going to do the best they can, but it's gonna be tight. So keep an eye on that one. Nick. You can run the football, or you
can create turnovers continue to create turnovers. Which one's you going with? You have one? You can run the football or you can continue to create turnovers. I will say I will right now because they are so random kind of they're on the other side of the ball and it's and you're about to answer, You're like, oh, that's the hold on. Yeah, the stress giving turnovers. I slipped twice. But I'll take the turnovers because I know they can move the football throwing, and you know, if I got turnovers,
then I'm already I'm already down there. It should be I'll take turnovers. Derek. I agree with that because I look at these opponents you got, and yeah, you're gonna want to run the ball. But ultimately, if you're not throwing the ball effectively, you're not winning those games anyway, and you're probably gonna need some turnovers. So yeah, tell me, give me the turnovers, and I'll be okay and we'll
make it work. By the way, that doesn't mean I can't get polet out in the flats and throw the ball to him, or get him down field and throw the ball to him and get the same kind of production out of him, just in a different way. So yeah, give me, give me the give me the turnovers, and I agree. I think I would rather get the turnoversum, because that means you're keeping the opponent from scoring you know less. But the thing is, you talk about the
offense being able to win games throwing the ball. We haven't seen it off it happened. What I'm losing track of time. I know one game for sure where they just weren't really was this just this list the way Philly was a game you just really didn't run great. You didn't run great in this pass game. Then two
games so then okay, they're making me. But but I'm still cautious, you know, because it's not something like a tendency that we've seen them consistently be successful at where they still win a game without running the ball as much, and we've known we've seen it before where they just they need that kind of balance. So but anyways, turnovers, let me ask you this question. Is part of what we saw in with the run game in the last two games and then also seeing explosion in the passing game.
Is it one of those things where well defenses are choosing, let's say, in these last two games, to say we were going to commit extra resources to stopping the run, they then exposed themselves to being beat in the air. Like is that what we're seeing or is this just they just can't run the ball? I think that. I think the last two teams you played have been really good in run defense. I don't think it's I mean,
just watching them play that extra resource, they're good. I think you get some I think I think you get some learning stuff going on at left guard, I's gonna get right guard and right tackle. I think those guys are trying to figure out each other and how they fit in the combo blocks and you know, and where they need to be. I think like the center when he's doesn't get up on the second level, you really
don't run the ball all that well. You know, on the on the back side, your guy, your left tackle gets compressed at times in the running game, so there's a lot going on. You take steal out of there, you lose that continuity that you had on that right side, and now you're dealing with a lot. I mean, the one thing you kind of figured out is we can run the ball to the right side and be okay. And now you're a little bit of iffy because the left, the right guard, and the right tackle haven't had a
lot of work together doing this. So I think, and I think you're playing teams that me personally, let me run the ball. I'm gonna let me run the all guy because I think that helps Dac and ultimately I think it helps Dac throw the ball. Is what I saw I would look at it. We have time for one more sure, okay, uh, Derek, has t Y Hilton already shown you enough to take more snaps away from Noah Brown? Yeah? Yeah, yes, come on, Brian, come on
with a better question than that. Your third question. I actually thought you're gonna go a gallop there, but that would have been a harder question. But Noah, Yes, absolutely, do you take do you take snaps away from Gallup? I'm considering it. I'll change that for my show today. Thanks, Derek, appreciate that I might. I might even say that I want them on the field about the same amount of time. I don't know that I have a preference one over the other, but I definitely want him. I want him
having being more part of this offense, no doubt about it. Yeah. You know the part about that is is that you just think of the receiver aspect of like him. Let's go back to the Noah Brown thing, like t Y Hilton or Noah Brown. Brown's one of your game or to actually, and this is not a knock on Noah Brown, right, And I'm not after him knowing I did not, but I think he went after the game quick answer. Yeah, but that's it is right. You're thinking of him catching
the football over the middle third and five. But when Noah Brown is out there, what they can do from his I mean there's plays that they that they switched to a run that they would do that they can do that better with Noah Brown than you can with t Y Hilton. So I mean it's kind of why do you have twelve personnels and things like that, because you can just be a little bit more versatile with it. So I again, I don't know Brown has. He's won some games, cost some games, but but for the most part,
he's been a solid player. I think he gives you more versatility than people think because of what he could do blocking on the edge. Well here's the part, and I agree with that part, But the other part you didn't factor in was it's not just a third and five. It's what he can give you down the field that Noah Brown can't give you, right, So, so I think you can play that game back and forth. There are certain things you can get from each one of them
that maybe the other person can't. But the way I look at at t Y and the reason why I want him on the field more is not only for picking up those those yards that can get me the first downs. I want defenses having to think about where is he on the field every single play, because if they're having to think about that, that's less time that they can really devote in resources they can really devote to trying to stop CD. That opens up the entire passing game, and that to me is where I feel
that t Y add something. I know, it just doesn't one word answer real quick here, just one word answer and bar more playoff pressure on Dan Quinn or Kellen Moore. M uh okay, you made up for the last questions. That's a good one. Oh thank you. Yeah, I didn't feel so good about ninety seconds ago. I would change though,
I would. I think I would maybe change Kellen Moore for Mike McCarthy a little bit because because of some of those decisions that you mentioned earlier, you know, those timeout decisions, lasts going forward, some of those decisions, I think it comes down to Mike McCarthy and what he's doing. It's not just Kellen Moore. I think. I think that I think you left it out because it's a given. I mean, like Mike McCarthy right as a that he's he's on a hot seat to win a playoff, to
win this playoff game. Sure, both those two coordinators maybe have a chance to get the jobs head coaching jobs. All that I mean, I think I think from those two, I would say Kellen Moore a little bit more pressure. Last year, they did a decent job against the forty nine ers on defense, but they did not they did not start the game. Well, they were bad on offense to start the game. So I would say Kellen Moore
from that standpoint, yeah, I agree with you. I think Kellen Moore just because I think the defense, for whatever reason, the defense has gotten a little bit of a pass even when they haven't been great. An offense will never
get a pass. Now, Like you can have a game where like we've we've talked about it, like these can have a bad series at to begin a game and get behind, and then the rest of the game they're flawless, and everybody will still point back if they lose, they will still point back to the offense and say they got off to a slow start. Yeah, it's like you can't you can't win on the offense side unless you
score every time you get the ball. There's gonna be people that are gonna say that they have a problem when the season comes to an end. Even then, and for those that look at just stats and forget about how the game actually went and the things that happen and there in the frustrations and all that. On paper, Kellen Moore has done a really, really good job for
the Cowboys and the offense offensively. So I think that taking all the things that happened in the game out and all that, Like if you are going for a job, and I mean they look at what you do too. It's not like you just look at a rescue mail. You got this many, this much shreker or this wrecker for being the offensive coordinator. But I'm starting to change my tune a little bit on give pressure on dan and Quinn and how things are kind of going the wrong way for him right now. I mean, you think
about it what you just said about Kellen Moore. He had the number one offense in the league last year. I don't know what his current stats are, but I'm guessing he's top five this year. Like any offensive coordinator that's doing that over two years, that's pretty impressive. But you listen to the commentary about Kellen Moore and you would think he's not a very good offensive coordinator. Right That's where I'm like, he can't win, Like it's that's
a no win situation. And so he's always, in my opinion, he's always going to get more criticism than dan Quinn will. And maybe that's because of what dan Quinn's come in and done with this defense overall, you don't really put it as every game, you're not really kind of judging him every game. But Kellen Moore is getting judged every play almost by what he does and doesn't do, So I agree. All right, appreciate you guys. Jones. We'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna jump into this final game Cowboys
versus Commanders. To then for Nick Eatman. Brian brought us Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagelton. This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
