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that happened in this game. But I'd like to go around the table and I'd like each of you to tell me what you think was the biggest reason why they lost yesterday's game. Let's start with you, Brian. We knew going into the game the run defense potentially could be a problem. I kind of felt like that that's what green Bay was committed to doing. I kind of feel like at the point in time when I went back and watched the All twenty two, felt like that they had a chance to end this game, win this

game with everything that happened to it. On the fourth and seven play, you know that green Bay converted that they got Watson scored a touchdown on right there, you get a stop on fourth and seven. The game's over balls right there basically at midfield, and you get a shot to just run that thing out. You've got green Bay probably demoralized a little bit having to come back on the field. But yeah, the run defense was going

to be a problem. And but that's the when you look at you look at like key plays in the game. You could talk about the fourth down play that Dallas had. But if somehow, some way you make a play, you know, Michael Parsons on the twist stunt gets a little wide and then all of a sudden, it gives Rogers the opportunity to step up and make that throw. You know, Michael Parsons makes that play a lot of times. You know it's a sack, it's a turnover, it's the game's

over at that right there. For all the things that happened to you, good and bad in that football game, you make one play on fourth and seven, You're gonna win that football game. And I think that's a little bit disappointing for something. If you said, give me one thing other than Cowboy run defense that kind of affected this game. Amber, Yeah, the run defense was definitely an issue, and it was you can clearly see that from yesterday's game.

But like Ryan said, it's hard to pinpoint something specific when you look at the game overall. And last week on Friday and even Thursday, I was talking about one of my biggest concerns going into this game, where penalties and how that could have my thought of it affecting the Cowboys in a bad way, and it absolutely did.

Despite all the mistakes that were made on the offensive side of the balls, the things, you know, the two interceptions, certain plays that you're like, why are they calling display right now? Despite all that, they were able to come back make it a game. And then you go into overtime, and I'm sure we're going to discuss those penalties, but damn, it's like, why does they have to come down to that.

I mean, you were able to tie the game against Aaron Rodgers comes back, the defense kind of bends in the fourth quarter, which was crazy to see the way that they were able to just run over all over the defense. But I would say it's just mistakes on offense, just not playing a clean game, some of the decision making, maybe Dad getting a little too comfortable and making some of those throws that he shouldn't have made, and it

just all came down to that. You could have started the game being ten seven and he didn't go that way. But I mean, there's no way to really predict what could have happened at that point on if they had kind of protected the ball better to start the game. Their quarterbacks better than yours by far, and that's the difference in the game to me. So yeah, that's it. I mean, he made no mistakes and that made a few mistakes, So that's the difference I think. I mean,

he can't beat this guy. I mean, they beat him twice, but you know it's ten years ago and fifteen years ago or something like that. I mean, he's way better than you, and then that's that's the problem. And he's not interested in playing a lot of games, but he was interested in that one apparently. Yeah, that's what's frustrating. If I'm the Packers, I'm probably more frustrated than the Cowboys, because if you got it, then give it every damn game.

You don't have it every game. Well, the difference I think is that they didn't ask as much of it him yesterday as they've typically asked of him. I think he was very clear yesterday. They went into that game saying he controlled the game. No, you know, he made the throws when he needed to make the throws. But guess what, he played a Cooper Rush kind of game. That's the interesting points about this. Like they were not

throwing the ball around the yard. They were run. They went in the game their first I think it was of the first fifteen plays they ran, twelve of them were rushing. Like they went into the game saying, Aaron, we will call you when we need you right now. And I'm talking about Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Jones, and Dylan We're gonna we're gonna give you guys the ball and

we're gonna let you run. It's it's it's funny. You've played two of Hall of Fame quarterbacks this year in Aaron Rodgers and then also Tom Brady, and neither one of them really had to have a great game for them to win by I mean, but to Nick's point, he's when Rogers had to make throws. He made throws. I mean, and and they and you know, and he he starts off the game throwing the ball to to Watson and Watson drops two and row and you're like going, Okay,

we've seen we've seen this act before. But he just kept throwing them the ball. And I think the Dallas secondary got a little compromised with what was happening with them with Bland and then you know, and also you know them having to make a lot of changes though in the secondary as well. I mean, it's just it was tough. I mean, it's just it's I always say it's about this team. It hates prosperity. It really hates prosperity.

It hates when you give them something that they can they can take advantage of and make a difference, and when they hate it when you do that. They like to make it as hard as possible to win these

football games. It's never easy with this bunch. You know, you get the turnover, I mean, tank with the brilliant I mean, they get the sack and the sack fumble, and like to Ambar's point, then you throw a ball, you give it right back and they score on that, you know, instead of instead of you kicking a field goal or you scoring a touchdown, they give it right back and it's like, okay, you know, well, hey, by the way, we're gonna have a couple of runs in here.

You know, we're gonna make a good run. You're Oh, by the way, we're gonna get called for holding here. Oh another thing. We're gonna run for nine yards. But we're not gonna line up on sides. You know, they hate prosperity. They just hate it when you give them something that's going to help them win the game. And that's the thing that's really the most frustrating. I mean,

the run defense stuff. We can get into all that because of and I'll just give you an example on the on the touchdown run, uh that that Aaron Jones had where it just looked like it with a wide open hole. They're running a twist stunt. They're running to twist. Bohannah goes out and it's supposed to be Fouler inside. Fouler doesn't go inside. They got they got the twist on the opposite side. They're gonna run the twist to the play side and they're gonna twist right into it.

And what happens. Fowler doesn't run the twist, and now it's a It's a huge gain for a touchdown. That's the kind of things that happens to this football team way way too often for them to be is as good as they are with record, right, crazy thing. It's like you're in Green Bay. You're going up against Aaron Rodgers. Yes it is Aaron Rodgers better than Dak Prescott, Yeah,

sure he is. But you got you get to the point where you got a fourteen point lead against them, that's going into the fourth quarter, and then still you manage And I don't think this game much to your point, Derek, I don't think this game was necessarily won by Aaron Rodgers and his arm. It was the running game where they just completely ran through the whole Cowboys defense. But

it's just insane to see how the game started. It was really slow, and then you get to that lead like that, and then just completely they tied, the game goes into overtime, then the crazy it happens. To Nick's point. To Nick's point, Rodgers was into this game. The fact on third down, fourth down there and he's yelling. He's yelling at this guy. And I know he yells the coach every once in a while, but you could tell

he wanted to win this football game. You could tell about the way that he was that he was playing and you know, and he stuck with it. I mean, he made some really really good throws in this game that they had they had to have, and you know that that's the difference. You know, the recipe for your quarterback throwing forty six times is never good, just never good. When it turns into that, it's just you know, it's

something bad, it's probably gonna happen. So how much blame do we give Kellen Moore Because it's one of the things that we talked about during that five game stretch where rushes your quarterback and you go four and one and everybody's saying, well, yeah, the reason why is because they're managing the game. With Cooper Rush, he only has to make a few plays a game, and they're running the ball. They're running the ball effectively, and they should

do the same thing when Dak comes back. However, yesterday said that was not a Cooper Rush kind of game. That was a game where we got our starter backs, so that means we're just going to air it out. There was never any reason for them to feel like they got they should get away from the run. They were running the ball effectively. How much blame do you

put on Kellen Moore? I put I put blame on the fourth downplay, And honestly, I felt like at the end when Mike McCarthy, he made me feel a little bit better about it because I was thinking that maybe McCarthy decided to go for it on fourth down and Kellen didn't have a play ready, you know, but Mike came out and said no. On second down. I told him we're going. Obviously, trying to kick a field goal that way was not good. Kicking off anything going that

direction was not good to be good enough. Though. The problem I have is, though, what play you called if if you're learning on third down that the officials are not going to call pass interference or anything like that on that third down play. I'm like, okay, I'm about to throw a bunch pick route on you here, I

mean and pick. I'm about to run pick routes. And if you're if you're going to swallow the whistle on this, I'm coming with a fourth down play or a play that's gonna get me this first down where but you know, to run trips and then try and really, I mean, the shallow cross was not there, the ball the curl inside wasn't there because Alexander, and then you kind of throw the ball to Pollard in the flat. You know, give me a play where, give me your best two

point play to get a first down. Give me something that make these officials like I say, run picks, get guys open, kind of wheel it. Do whatever you have to do. But for that call at that particular time in the game, I'm like, going that play had nothing. That play had absolutely nothing. And I agree with you about running the football. I do. I think putting Dak in Harm's way at times is not very good. But I also feel like though that have a really have a good play ready on fourth down and I don't

think they did in this particular case. You look at the numbers on DAC yesterday. He was twenty seven to forty six to fifty nine percent completion rate not good, two hundred and sixty five yards, three touchdowns, two interceptions. That I think is key in this quarterback grading was seventy eight point six. Nick. How much blame you put on DAK for that loss? Not as much as I put on Kellen More. I mean, that's that's the I mean, I don't the fourth down play. I agree that was bad,

but it's third down. For me. It's third and three with six twenty five to go. I mean, run the football. They are not stopping either one of those two backs. And I'm and I'm putting at the balls at the thirty five yard line. You're not kicking it at the thirty five. Would you kick it at the thirty two? Maybe? And you might kick it, And you might kick it at the thirty two with five minutes to play in the game and overtime as opposed to six to twenty five, run it, run it, and and I don't think they

get stopped. And you know, but the you know, the the officials, you hate you hate to blame officials, but you just want to see it consistent. If you're gonna call Connor William I'm sorry, Connor McGovern same thing, because you want to think about the holding. You're gonna call McGovern on that penalty in overtime. If you're calling that, okay, then then call it. If you're gonna just say and overtime, let him play, it's gotta be a it's got to be like a blood bath before I call anything. That's

why I would do it. But they don't do it that way. You're gonna call that, then you gotta call it with CD getting getting Oh he got interfered with. He got interfered with. And that's clearly that's why. Again, that's why you know, and I think Nick's right, run the ball, run the ball. You'd had success and not stopping that. You're not stopping that, you know. And that's the thing about it is that. But man, I mean, if at that fourth down play, it's like, fine, okay,

you did, You're not gonna give us one. I'm about to run a pick and I'm gonna see if you're gonna call offensive pass interference here when I spring ceedee lamb open for about twenty six yards here because I'm gonna run. I am going to make you have to make that call. You make that call. Now I'm losing my absolute mind. But you know I lost it. I just it. Yeah, But that's that's what happened with that. Well, the headsets broke. There's that just shows you how emotionless

game was for Mike McCarthy for shot. You know, I mean, and he and I don't. I think it was the frustration when he talked to Brad Sham pregame. You know, we played on one O five three. The fan he was he was a you know, it was a little

bit try go Brady. He just guarantee a win. You know, he was very much, very confident that his football team was going to go out there and play well and he was gonna get they were gonna vict That coaches have confidence all the time, but Mike was very much a after we get this win, you know, we're gonna go back and we're gonna you know. And I was like, oh, okay, so yeah, I think this. I think this one meant

a lot to him. And the fact that they didn't get it and they had some penalties on the back end of this thing, I think made him even more upset after the game. You can just if you listen to the press conference of him speaking, the way he was talking, even at one point his eyes were pretty shiny, you know, So there was a lot of emotion there

and you can absolutely see it. And going back to some you mentioned Celee Lamb, you guys were talking about him, and it reminded me of that one play that they have that they like put that play away. I don't want to hear whatever option routes happen in the middle of the field. You don't want to run anymore. Want to hear miscommunication being the word used after a game again,

like bringing Brough, Like what miscommunication? You practice this and and and I'm reacting this way because this isn't the first time we see this. So last week, Yeah, it happened two weeks weeks ago, Yeah exactly. Yeah, you had a week to fix it, and then it happens again. And then you use the word miscommunication, Well what the are you? What are you doing in during practice and there should not be a miscommunication. Well that's and that's

something to do with Dak's first interception. We we could we could have sat out there and watched them practice that play that they end with Schultz and CD getting kind of real close there, and when they run to play, there's no congestion there. Everything is spaced right. Everything you know it's and Dak makes that throw and it's like, okay, you know next period, you know everything it's it's it's

a successful play. It scores every time in practice. Yeah, and then when you run it into game, you're like going, wait a minute, the Titan gets a little short in the route. The receiver didn't get far enough. Wait a minute, there's guys standing there. Like when you practice that play, it's a touchdown every single time. But that's also where

that's quarterback. But that's why he makes that throw. That's why he makes that throw because every single time they practice that, it's a touchdown in practice, right, But that's also where he has to And maybe I don't understand the quarterback position in the NFL. I will a lot have never played NFL quarterback, but I would think that he is watching his receivers to know, Oh, wow, his short's coming up, his route is coming up a little show, Oh he got bumped there. Oh there's a ton of

congestion there. Maybe i't to go to a different receiver or maybe think about tucking and running or getting rid of the ball well one of those other options. See, but there was all that congestion there, there were receivers that were not where they were supposed to be. I still put it on the quarterback. You've got absolutely right, absolutely see and the and the previous play to that,

they try and run a screen. They fake a screen to the left, and it just goes to show you how fed up things get for the Cowboys when it comes to running. They got they got a chance on the screenplay, but they got Davis in there running the play and he gets all knocked around, and then Dak has to run the ball. So you know, you never know if that's if that's Pollard or is that Zeke? Is it a clean you know, is it a clean throw? And now we're not throwing an interception on the next play.

You know, it's like, you know, you're thinking, oh, they faked a screen. They get everybody to one side, but then the back who doesn't play all the time gets knocked around a little bit. So now Dak has to eat it. And what happens. Then third down he's making a force throw, you know, but you're you're not wrong about that and seeing it how he needs to see it. All right, It's like our first break and we come back.

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at the Star. This segment is brought to you by blockchain dot com. Let's talk about this defense having a good time right now the middle it's off, but get it together. We'll get it together. Blockchain is a good one. Yeah, they are allowed. The defense allowed two hundred and seven rush yards yesterday five point three average. And the interesting part is they ran almost double the amount of times to day through the ball. They had thirty nine rushes

in the game twenty passes, twenty past attempts. So the big question, why couldn't Dallas stop Aaron Jones and and dealing cleats? Well, by the way, there is a conversation we need to have about cleats, but we'll get to that in a moment. Why couldn't they stop to run? They? They they they're really struggling right now with their um. Dan's trying to do some things differently with He probably doesn't feel like he could play toe to toe with anybody right now and be okay, use as a run defense.

So what happens is he gets into some slant fronts. And when you get to slant fronts, you know, you're taking a gamble, you're risking. You're saying, Okay, we're gonna slant it to what we think is the strength of the you know, and and Isaiah Standbeck said it, I

thought pretty well in the show before Us. Whereas if you declare strength to the tight end and you slant the front towards the tight end and then the ball goes the other way, you're slanting away from that, and now you're leaving yourself in a situation where you're outnumbered um, they weren't particularly good. Again at the point of attack, when I talk about guys getting blocked one on one, Micah wasn't particularly good. And you know, folks, listen, I'm

Mike is a great player. He doesn't get hold every play. Michael Parsons on times on some of the runs will try and hero ball it and go backdoor. And you can't play run back door. You've got to play run front door. And I mean front door is as the ball is coming towards you. You cannot try and go behind the blocker and then go get the ball. The

backs won't allow you to do that. Now, maybe if you're playing against Indiana or Northwestern or people like that in the Big Ten, tied from the Lions, we chase down. You're not chasing that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Though, there's there's some scheme issues that they're really struggling with right now. And I mentioned about the touchdown run where you run a twist front and I mean cross the ends and the tackles, and you're trying to kind of

confuse blocking schemes. But if you don't get the twist to the side of the of the play and then it turns into Bohannah's wide, Fouler's wide. Now you have this gaping hole which which Jones was able to run in, and then they got the touchdown where he spends backwards and dives in the end zone. You know, there's there's times where two where you're in a situation where your ends get hooked, your linebacker gets suck. They're doing a great job. Teams are of getting their center up on

a linebacker, their guards up on a linebacker. They're getting cracks from tight ends. You know, they're not winning near enough. Mercedes Lewis, he's a big, big body tight end. He's cracking down. You're not getting off that block. You're not getting somebody over the top. You're having that soft corner. We've talked about that a bunch. Kelvin Joseph was much better trying to be a forced corner yesterday doing what

we've seen from Brown or even Diggs. You could go back and watch they all twenty two and watch Diggs retreat, retreat, retreat, to stay wide and then the ball go inside of him. You know, you have to be willing to step up and kind of force the run, and they're just not getting that nearly enough, but the slant front's hurting them. The fact that they don't get off blocks, and the fact that they're not playing the scheme right is far What Dan's calling leads to a team getting over two

hundred yards Russian on you. Yeah, I mean this team is I mean they gotta They're gonna have at the end of the year, probably five guys with five or six sacks. I mean, that's a lot. But the problem is is they're built to have sacks. They're not built to stop the run, right. I mean, what did Dorian's Armstrong do yesterday? Half a tackle? I mean, Fowler had a face mask, bastard, I don't think did a whole lot did nothing? I don't. I mean what did I mean?

Sam Williams made a sack, but I mean like in him and Parsons both they rushed the passer, but like to Brian's point, they don't like I think teams are gonna look at these guys and go, Okay, well he's not very big, so we're gonna have to run at them. And then if you keep running at them and it's third and three, then you prevent Michael from being Michael. It neutralizes him. Yeah, the fact that again he wasn't great playing the run yesterday either. A little of a

frustrating game. But to Nick's point, basham armstrong. These guys are not built to sit there and play toe to toast. I mean, so they have to move in order to but they can't get off the field because what happens teams are like, listen, you're just too light. You're too light up there. And if you're gonna you know, but if you're gonna scheme and then try and slant, like I said, slant it, but play it incorrectly, well we'll

take that chance. You know, we'll take a chance that you're gonna Okay, fine, you're gonna slant to the strength, we'll run the ball the other way. You're gonna you know, you think now you're gonna play it back to the weak side, Well we'll run it back to the strong side because we've got numbers over there. So yeah, they've they've got they've got some issues. Uh. You know, teams are saying a little bit too that they play so much nickel. You know, they they're a lighter, they play

a light front. I mean, not with numbers. They were committed to stop in the run yesterday at eight eight in the box. At times they just couldn't stop the run. You know. The packers are like, fine, you're you can put as many bodies as you want down there, But if you're not, if the eighth body is nearer the box is a digs, he's not gonna help you down there. You know, Brown, He's not gonna help you down there.

So that's an issue right out for them. That's a big, big issue that they they've got to I don't think there's any magical thing that's gonna you know, with Tank, the way that Tank plays, I mean, Tank has a feel for how to not let not get hooked. He's got to feel for how to cross face a block and get to the outside or stay there, or knife down inside and go tackle the ball from the backside.

You don't have anybody else that's playing like that. Now, Tank's not perfect all the time, because there's times where he will gamble inside and then the ball will go to the edge and now he's trapped trying to fight a block. But they they've they've got a lot of guys that are trying to play hero ball and run defense and it ain't gonna work. That ain't gonna work. You and I were talking a lot during the game,

from really from the beginning of the game on. It looks like there's a game where Michael's gonna be playing linebacker and you had a problem with that. What were your thoughts on him being at linebacker versus defensive and where he's been pretty much most of his career. But yeah, I have a problem with it. But but it sounds like teams know what's going on to you can't. That's not just the fix just to put him at defensive end, because it doesn't mean they're gonna throw it that it

is just gonna run the other way. So it's a it's a cat and mouse game because he's playing middle not middle linebacker. He's playing linebacker, and he's able to get involved with with the action and you hope that you make the tackles and it's third and long and then you can move them around. But if you just put him an end, like they'll they'll figure that out too, and they'll run to the other side or run run

the other side. That seems to be okay because I trust more than any other defensive end on this team. I trust DeMarcus Lawrence to be able to to to basically capture the edge. Yeah, Like that's one guy I trust to be able to do that consistently. I don't know if there's another one that I trust, not see enough to play defensive end. Yeah, that's why Mica or you would have played the defensive end in college and

he would have been drafted as an end. Where he is is he's a linebacker that has the ability to move on third and ten, third and eleven, what are you gonna do? Run it? Cool, run it and we'll probably stop you. But he rushes and that's a huge problem. But he are getting it. They're not getting in third and long. So once you guys are telling me, is there's no solution for this this season, not right now, not right man. The solution is if I don't think Dan,

like I said, wants to play anybody straight up. I think he's worried about that. Uh. To me, it's it's tough because now you could play a guy like Gholston, you know, at one end instead of see That's what I'm saying to me, He's he's a poor man's he's a poor man's Uh. Tank to me because he does not let you get to the outside. You know, he's gonna play off blocks. He's gonna play strong at the

point of attack. That's the thing. Bar also might help more with with that as well as a Bar because I've heard you talk about Bar being in more of a pass rusher. That's obviously what he did in Minnesota. Is he a guy though, that can play that edge in that way to where he's stout enough to be able to maintain the edge, He's He's man, It's a little fifty fifty for me. I'm just saying for me. I'm not trying to speak for an anybody at this table.

You know, because I've seen him. I've seen him get hooked. I've seen him get trapped inside. You know, they have guys that overrun plays too. They have guys like Micah and Laton, and those guys will be flying to get to the ball and the ball cuts back and then it's you know, now they got blockers on those guys and it's a it's a four and five yard game. So yeah, they you know, bash them, Armstrong, Fouler, those guys. I mean, there's there's some issues up there playing the

run because of the fact that they just can't. They don't hold up well enough. You know, if they get off blocks, yeah, that's fine, but they don't always get off blocks. That's that's the biggest issue. That's the thing I keep trying to figure out in my head because it seems so simple, but yet it's not. And when you watch the games, I mean, all I can think of is these linebackers needing help. But then you don't have people to give them the kind of help they need.

And at times, I mean, you should know what's coming, but sometimes I just feel like they get lost, as if every time or when they're gonna run the opposing team is gonna run the ball, they don't really know how to track the ball or where to go. Like they're always kind of fit. Yeah, and it's like, okay, you know it's coming, especially when they keep doing it at you so and I keep trying to think, how can you position these lines backer linebackers better and what

kind of help can you bring them? And I don't have I don't have really an answer other than what starts up front with the defensive line. Yeah, they they were in some situations where you know, with Bohannah see everybody's talking about, well, why have Bohannah and why have Hankins. It's not the inside part of the running game. It's not that's not the problem. That's not the problem. It's teams have figured out that they can work the ball to the edge. Do you saw how many times Derek

brought it up the first place? Again, they throw sideways. Basically, they're just tossing the ball to Jones. Go run to the edge, Go run to the edge. You know, they're trying to get it to the outside because you know, dealing with Hankins and dealing with Bohanna and guys like that, that's not easy. Those guys don't always get moved. You know, even you know Gallimore don't always get moved inside. It's what happens on the perimeter to you at the end

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dollars off. Welcome Back. Final segment of the Break Life Nest WBC more Studios at the Star present by Milla Like the Only Beer of the Dallas Cowboys. I do want to talk about this situation late in the game. This was an overtime Cowboys have We've talked about the third and three and then the fourth and three. Cowboys decided to go for it there on the fourth and three.

There's been some talk of people's sucking, second guessing the coaching coaching on that as to whether they should do that or give it a shot there at fifty three yards from the field goal. What were your thoughts? Wasn't gonna make it? Yeah, you guys were at the game. I just felt like anything going that direction kicking was not gonna be good. Okay, there's an invisible slip down there. Yeah,

just look it looked like kickoffs. Yeah, on a T kickoffs, it goes to the goal line when it's typically eight nine yards back. So that's probably a ten yard difference right there. On a tea. This is on regular grass ten yards and you don't even have to imagine it. All I have to do is look at the one Mason Crossby had and that was the last ever. Yeah, so it doesn't go that way. And you say before the game, you made a good point. You say it before the game, he was booming its like no problem,

which I said. I talked about it, you know, up in the press box and I said, I think I would have taken the wind, but in overtime and overtime and just take the win, and they get the ball to start it, and you gotta stop him. You gotta stop him from from scoring a touchdown. And they hadn't done it yet, so it was risky. It was risky.

But if you could stop them and they have to pun into that and then next thing you know, you're in fifteen twenty yards from kicking a field going winning it, so that if they lose, will be talking to the coach that doesn't deferge or start the game because he wants to take the ball and go out and make a statement. He's not doing that, like you're not. You're not taking the wind, and you're not you're not doing that by the way they have to change overtime rules.

It is ridiculous. Overtime rules are absolutely a joke, and they gotta they gotta say, it's almost like playing soccer for ninety minutes and then going to it de penalty kicks. It's a different game. It's a completely different condensed ten minutes. The point you're making it just for the benefit of those out there. Basically, you got different rules right now

in the regular seasons versus the post. True, that's stupid and another's you know, and I hope Stephen wasn't on that voted for that, But I mean, I think it's stupid. I mean, to change a rule for the playoffs and for the regular season, go go go find out in week seventeen, a week eighteen, how many playoff games are actually happening. And then you know, worth the end and tie all that kind of stuff, which that would have been the worst. I mean, I think I would have

felt worse with the tie. Yeah, but the point is both teams would get the ball. Yeah, and it's just a different it's reponsive touchdown. Yeah, I don't know, they played fifteen minutes and didn't score. I mean, I just I think it's a different I just don't like the way the game is. But it feels like they have

to change the way the game is played. But college rules, to be quite honest with you, when when college changed to their format where I sat there for seven overtimes at A and M and L. Now, the more I've watched it, the more I kind of like it. And I like it maybe more than the way the NFL does it because there is some intrigue to it, and it always is based upon you get a shot. I get a shot, and let's just battle it out until somebody falls, you know, And I kind of like that.

You know what, It'll be changed, though they'll have to do something. It will not the NFL has to change, but it definitely changes fantasy football if you did that. And I'm not saying no doubt, I'm not saying the Competition Committee worries about that, but they do worry about ratings. I mean, and there's your red zone channel. Yeah, fantasy football is that would try everything ratings. Yeah, but they think you could change the rules on your overtime points

and whatever it is. Yeah, all right, let's move on to the next thing I want to talk about. Did you think they should kick it. No, no, I just I was thinking about it about every I thought everybody said it. I'm sorry, No, no, I'm I'm totally okay with I could say I my play call would have been in that hindsight, I just saw it. But when I saw it afterwards, I said, that play didn't give you a chance to get the first down. That's that bothers me is that the one Tyler Smith's got beat

pretty bad. Him and both both the left guard and left tackle both got beat on that play. I wasn't good overtime for Connor. Nope. And can we know this is stupid and I think people would also get annoyed by this. But if you're going back to the penalties, if you're doing that, let's have you know overtime already. Shouldn't there be like why don't they come down to one person's decision? Like shouldn't it be able to some

kind of review happen here? I know this is a little ridiculous, but when you I mean it's it decides the game. Ultimately, you changed the game by these decisions. And when you hear even with what happened with Jalen Toilber, when you hear him saying I checked with the official and she didn't. He didn't, he didn't. No, No, he was lined up. I mean literally, I'm in the studio

was wondering that. I'm I'm yelling, yeah, I'm like back up, back up, back up, and I'm yelling in Zack's like what he goes he's off sides, he's off and then he looks back and they got him for motion because he's turning around looking at the official trying to talk. He did scoop back, but the ball was snapped. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, that's what they call five. You know. The interesting part was they actually called something different than the signal they

did this. But say to me, he was moving when the ball was snapped and it was a legal procedure. That's what I thought. But he immediately And the only reason I noticed is because the black line to scrimmat, they have a line like glind to gain and then where the ball is on the there's a black line on TV. He is past the black line. I'm going he's off sides. You know, not that it, you know, but you just look at the way he was aligned and he never and I'm thinking he was going to

adjust back. He never did. He just stood there and I'm like, he had this. This is why people ask, well, why doesn't Jalen Tilber play ken? We you go, can we get James Washington in the game? I mean, Siah, can we get James Washington like on the field to least start because right now, I mean he's doing just a little bit less. Well, you know, names we got Thanksgiving coming up, and we have to work out the schedule of his return, and we got to be careful

put him out there. This is ridiculous. He's been ready for four weeks. He's got he's got just as many catches as Jalen Tilbert does. And the special team stuff though, that's a bones fossil that just yeah, you know, you're not wrong, you're not wrong. But but what happens is bones walk Yeah, Bones walks down there and says, oh, this is what we need to do and all that. Honestly, that's the greatest game I've ever seen anybody play on special teams. Gifford, Yeah, he had a game less five

tack games. Yeah, I mean that's the fourth. I mean, you could rank fourth on the defense with five tackles. He did it all on Special teams. Plus he recovered a fumble which basically landed in his lap and he was there for that on that forced fumble with with good and I mean seriously, he could have been an NFC Special Teams Player of the Week if they win that game. Yeah, and he still could have. I guess, but man, I don't think I've ever seen five titles

in a game. How much do you guys think that that? Uh? I guess. The slipping that was happening last night, you had Duran Duran Bland. He slipped there, and in a situation where he was in coverage, you had Turp and seem like he was slipping all nights. Seemed like he was just on skates throughout the night. But the interesting part was coach talked about it all last week. They were they were making sure that the players knew you

gotta check out. I told you, I saw this white board, big white boar written at the game, make sure you test your cleats on the field. This was all pre game, So there's no reason why there should be a cleats talk. This is absolutely why, or one of the reasons why you should have had a bit of an advantage going into that game last night because you had a coach who, because of experience, could tell you things that maybe you

wouldn't get from another coach. They hadn't coached there for as many years as he had, and it sounds like he was coaching his team the right way. For whatever reason, it still ended up being a problem. How much of a problem was I mean, it was a couple of times definitely happened. And Here's what I don't know, because I don't watch a lot of their games. I mean, I mean, maybe you do have the right cleats, but does that necessarily mean that you you you never slip.

I mean, I don't know. I mean, I again, I don't know. I don't I don't think if you have everyone wears these these thick, you know, long cleats that nobody ever slips and falls. I mean it's really ironic though, the way, I mean, Theron Bland comes in the game and that's basically how they win the game because he falls and Lezard finally caught a pass, and you know,

that's it. That's the think he had changed this also, I mean to that point, because I was wondering the same thing, I'm like, hmm, I wonder, does my son slip more when he has the slip on socks. Not really, he slips less. But when you watch the Green Bay Packers the way they were playing, like you didn't see that happen. I don't, I don't remember, I don't recall. That's important that it happened to the Cowboys. So that's where he kind of leads you to wonder, Okay, what

what the heck was the problem here? Because you know how to shoose shoes were a problem. They didn't. I mean, okay, some players do list, but some players are so comfortable with their gear, like for a hundred years, for one hundred years, Jason Witton would never change his helmet, you know, he never. I mean some players that they play in shoes and they're comfortable with their shoes, and they're like,

I'll be fine with these shoes. They think I'm gonna be fine until they're out there on a third down critical play and they go sliding around and then there's a big catch. It ends the game. You know, that's that's you know, sometimes you just get so wrapped in like I'll be fine, I'll be fine, And I have a film They had a couple of guys that said, I'll be fine and probably just think when it comes to equipment and our part of the equipment, it shouldn't be up to the player, it should be up to

the team. Well, but I do think I do think part of that has to be kind of to Brian's point, what the player feels comfortable in, because you still want them to feel comfortable enough to be able to maneuver and do the things that they do and not be self conscious about the equipment. Right. So, and there are different guys. You see it all the time. Different guys wear different sized pads, different sized you know, kneepads and all this stuff, like it's all about how their bodies feel.

So I do think you want to have that be still a part of it. But I get your point. The coach made it clear, guys has something to be aware of, and that's what you do as a coach. Be aware, be aware, be aware. That was my experience. Whatever reason, some were not as aware and it may have cost them. Yeah, all right, appreciate you guys. Jones. We'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna figure out a little

bit of a big picture on what's happening here. Now Cowboys fall to third in the division, and now you start wondering about what's happening with the wildcard spots because some of these teams that maybe you kind of thought would be dead are now creeping back into this thing. We'll talk about that tomorrow. Till then, for Nick Eatman, Brian brought us Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This is

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