Cowboys Break: What Went Wrong vs. PHI?

episode number seventy nine. Welcome to another edition of The Break, live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. And today we've got to talk about that game yesterday. Cowboys lose thirty seven nine in a game that in the first half seemed as though maybe the Cowboys were doing a lot of things right, specifically on the defensive side of the ball. But then after halftime the wheels fall off and and they end up being outscore thirty

to nothing in the second half alone. Tough day for the Cowboys and U and looking like a pretty perilous situation for them if playoffs are part of their goals for this year. Let's go around the table and let's just get some general thoughts of what you saw yesterday. And what you're thinking about this team right now, Nick, I'll start with you, Well, I just thought that, you know, for the second week in a row, it just looked like this team didn't make any adjustments in the second half.

And you know, they played pretty you know, a pretty good first half, but you didn't score any any touchdowns. Obviously, the offense is just really a problem, and you know you expect that when you're missing Tyron Smith and Zeke, but you know, you expect the coaching staff to be able to kind of rally the troops around a little bit more and scheme them in position to make more plays,

and they haven't done that. So and everyone would probably say similar things, But I thought, you know, coaching staff, I thought it could have done a much better job with this. Let's jump to you Amber. What what were your thoughts. Well, I'm still training to figure out, honestly, and this is it wouldn't make sense me to say I thought it would be worse when you see the score and the turnout have things you know obviously turned

out for them. But again, I thought the defense at the first in the first half, they did a lot better than I expected. And I'm sure everyone a lot better than what everyone expected without Sean Lee, so they had a chance there. Again, I don't know how. I can't figure out what it is that the offense isn't able to really do. Why can't Dak have a better connection with this receiver When it's not Dak messing up, it's the receiver messing up and vice versa and again.

And he said it last night, it's either if the running game is not going, the passing game is going. If the passing game is going, then the running game is not going. So they just have to figure out a way to just get better. And I don't know how it gets better from here. Dave, It's certainly not the first time the Cowboys have lost in the Dak Prescott era. It's not the first time they got in

their butts kicked in the Dak Prescott era. But I think that is really truly the first time where the Cowboys lost a game looked bad and Dak Prescott looked bad. I mean, he's not the only one. There's plenty of blame to go around. When you lose by what was thirty seven, so you were seven nine year by twenty eight points, there's plenty of blame to go around. But I said on Friday, he's going to have to have the best game of his career if they were going to win this game. And I think he had. I

know he had the worst. He had the worst game of his career last night. Yeah, no doubt. Statistically was the worst game of his career. He was eighteen to thirty one, fifty eight percent completion rate, only one hundred and forty five yards, which a lot of that came at least final drive drives, thirty to sixty of it came when the game was well decided. He had zero touchdowns, three interceptions quarterback creating a thirty point four It was not a good day for Dak Prescott. Here's a question

I have for you, guys. Do you think that it's at this point are you willing to concede that it maybe just too much to put on his shoulders without Ezekuel Elliott or do you still think that yesterday pressure was a major problem for him. He did get sacked four times. It didn't feel to me, just as an observer, it didn't feel to me as though he was getting an inordinate amount of pressure, especially early in the game when the game was more in you know, kind of

in the balance. But do you think that it was the pressure or do you think that that this offense really is about Ezequiel Elliott and they can't move the ball consistently without him. If you want to make an excuse that somebody wasn't there, that's fine. Tyrn Smith is the one because I'm charting it right now. They ran the ball for one hundred and twelve yards. They averaged four point one yards per carry. I'm in the first

half right now. I mean, when the game was close and they weren't moving the ball, they were still averaging four point seven five yards per carry like they were running the ball. So yeah, but here's here's a statutill throw it. What were they doing on first that's the big difference. I'll tell you the numbers on first down when they were running the ball, they were ten of twenty. They were ten for twenty six yards on first down

in the first half. In other words, in the early part of the game, when the offense needed to be moving the ball and getting points, they weren't doing anything on first down when they ran the ball. That puts them behind the chains, That puts an orderate amount of pressure because quarterbacks and put you behind the chains. That puts you not good enough in the chains. Like second and eight is not behind the chains. Behind the chain is second and twelve because you lost yards behind the chains.

But off schedule a second and eight, you're off schedule if your second to eight, if you're getting one two negative yards on first down, that's great you are you are behind the chain. If you're off schedule, that's not ideal. It was good enough, like that's what I'm saying, like it was good enough for what it's for them to punt. You're getting good enough production out of your running game

that your quarterbacks should be able to make plays. Like you're telling me if you're averaging if you're averaging two yards per carry, you're not on first That's what I'm talking about. That you're averaging two points per yard per carry on first downs. You're telling me that's good enough to be able to move this offense. I'm telling you that if you are averaging four point seven yards per carry over the course of the first half, that's great.

If it's second and eight, move the ball again, like complete a pass, don't have your receiver drop the ball. Don't throw a bubble screen that almost hits the dirt, which happened twice in this game. The running game was not good by any stretch of the imagination, not by the Cowboys standards. They ran for one hundred and twelve yards as a team against the best run defense in the league. That's more than good enough. That's more than

good enough. That's honest. That's probably what you well, not probably, that might be what you get if Zeke is in the game. We've seen them do that. We saw them run for a hundred yards as a team against the Cardinals. We saw him run for one oh seven against the Giants. Sometimes you're not going to run for one sixty and your quarterback has to be good enough to pick up the slack and normally, you know, against the Falcons you

get sacked eight times in the game. There are other factors, all things being equal, everything else was good enough at least to score more points than nine, to at least course in touchdowns. I don't know if you win the game, but I thought the running game was there enough for it to be balanced, for your passing game to be there. Quarterback didn't show up. The receivers didn't show up. I don't think you can pend this on not having Ezekiel Elliott not based on what I saw. I don't care.

If they were only averaging whatever yards in the first down, you should care because that's what starts to drive like that. These drives are stalling because yeah, they're doing some nice things, but then when it gets down to it in the thirty eight or forty yards, yeah, and let me finish just a second. They get thirty eight forty yard line and then it stops like that, everything stops right there, and then you do have to you're right, like Dad

needs help. There's no doubt about Dad needs help and he can't do it on his own. And we're seeing him from last year that who the real MVP is because he can't do this on his own. And you know those receivers aren't going to help him, like they didn't they failed their quarterback last nine. So I mean it was it was all in all. I thought that you're right about the average yards, but like when they really needed yards, they really needed to sustain it, that

they couldn't. So I just thought, all in all, they all kind of failed. Decent numbers overall for the running game, but I thought it was kind of hollow really because when they needed to run, they couldn't really get it going, and the passing game was not there. And don't get me wrong, the receivers were awful. I mean, Terrence Williams bad ball that turns into an interception in the first quarter. I think the first time we've seen that this year.

Player Dez and Dak typical just didn't look like they had their chemistry going. But like like I said, I like it sounds like y'all are trying to absolve Dak Prescott of playing like absolutely oh absolutely, that's what it sounds like. Absolutely not absolutely not. And what I'm I guess the point that I'm making is I don't think

at this point in Dak's career he's good enough. You said it should be good enough, He's not good enough at this point with the receivers that he has to be able to overcome every situation, I mean, being put consistently in situations where it's second and eight second and nine second and ten. I just don't think he's good enough yet to do that. If so, that's a little

disappointing because I think he is. I mean and he's played like he has he has played like he's that good before he has that, But that I don't think that's the second and second and eight, second and seven? What that's okay? Is it ideal? No? But is it like he's getting sacked? Is it like they have these awful holding penalties like we saw back in the you know, actually during the wind streak where they couldn't get out of their own way. If you're good quarterback, you should

be able to convert second and eight. I mean, like, that's not this like unconquerable mountain. But they didn't. That's my point. Yeah, they didn't. So my point is, okay, so what do you I'll ask the question then, so what do you blame it on the fact that they were in those situations and they weren't able to convert. If it wasn't on the fact that the quarterback just couldn't do it, then what was it? Bad quarterback play and bad just just a complete no show by the

wide receivers. That's what I put this, right. So, so if running game is doing that and the quarterback and receivers aren't able to overcome it, you've got a problem. Right, So the running game and again that's my point about Ezekiel Elliott. With Elliot's in there, you're not getting a lot of those second and eight second and nine second and tens when he's running the ball in first down. The average is much higher on first down. That's the difference.

And that's the point I wanted to to kind of illuminate and talk about, was is this more about Ezekiel Elliott and what he's able to do, particularly on first downs? I think that you know, we're sitting here arguing like is he important? Like is he Is there a big

drop off between Morris and there there is? I mean we all we all know that, and so yes, I do think that what we were seeing last year maybe some parts of this year that you know, Dak's getting a lot more help and the coverage is much different, I'm sure, and the passing game is easier to throw the ball to cold Beasley and Witten and those guys when when you have to, you know, be worried more about the running game. I mean, the real issue is is that there's not a single player on the offense

that scares the defense, not one player. Are you worried about this? Looks like the Carolina Panthers to me right now, like what they what they what they have and they have an athletic quarterback who at times can be accurate, but at times he can be kind of shaky. His receivers aren't that great. Running game is I'm talking about? This cowboy team is kind of suspect. There's times when it can look pretty good. There's times when it can look really bad. Last night it was really bad, you know.

To me, this is his year, his rookie year in the passing game. Like last year, we didn't really see him throwing the ball far or any of you know, he would play safe. They were relying on the running game. But last year the difference was he would play it safe. Short passes, Jason Witten, get Cole Beasley more involved, those guys, rely on those guys. This year, I feel like he's really experiencing his rookie year in the passing game and

he's not gonna be great. I mean, we still need to remember he's a second year guy and people are expecting him to ball out and be awesome at everything, and it's not like that. He just needs more practice. I didn't get a better connection with all these receivers

who are not helping him at all. Well, you guys at all surprised that in the it was in their first I'm sorry, the second series of the game, Cowboys get down to the Philadelphia twenty seven, it's i'm sorry, second and six from the Philadelphia twenty three, and that was the play where Dak keeps the ball on his own read runs for eleven yards gets them down to the Philadelphia twelve. Were you surprised that they didn't go back to that the entire rest of the game. I mean,

it was obviously effective. It's obviously a situation where you're trying to create some semblance of creativity in the offense. Where you surprised they didn't go back to that and use that a little bit more in this game? Yeah, I remember they ran that. I think it was a third and two they ran that, but he let Morris have it and he just got blown up in the back of it. Yeah. No, I mean, yeah, I didn't.

I didn't see half of what I thought i'd see in terms of misdirection, getting people on the move like they had. You know, they had one play that I vividly remember where they moved the pocket didn't work out, But like they've rant one time, you didn't see any boots waggles like we talked about last week, like using the tight ends, Like I know you need to keep the tight ends to help your protection. And for the

most part, it seemed like that work. But how about how about some delayed screens or some again boot action like we saw so many times last year where the tight end is a late option in the passing game once Dak rolls out like it you when you're not when you're not functioning at full capacity, when you don't have the ability to just line up and run, when you don't have Ezekiel Elliott, you'd think there could be

some more creativity. I didn't see any, I mean, and that sounds like the Cowboys, to be honest with You're like, we're gonna, we're gonna do our thing. We're gonna this is what we're good as, Like, well, you're good at it. When you have one of the best running backs in the league, you should probably recon city or your options

based on what we got here. And you know, they they've made a value and effort to try to get Dez Bryant the ball, like out in space, and you know, maybe three or four years ago he was beating people like that and he was one on one. But he's not doing that right now. I mean, I don't know if it was just last night, but I haven't seen him really do that all year, where you know, it's just like my guys better than your guy, and you know he's getting tackled, he's not breaking those tackles and

he's not really being that dynamic. Um, these fifty fifty balls are not fifty fifty. I mean that that would be a five hundred, you know, that would bet he's not catching him. I mean, I thought it was so telling. That was it? Was it the first possession after you know, after the long kick return, or it was early in the game. No, it was, yeah, the one the back shoulder ball. Was that the first possession that you know arguably you had interference? Oh? Yeah, that the first or

second possession. I'm trying to remember. I don't remember which it was. The second possession of the game. They were down seven three, they go back down there, they get to the Philadelphia nine yard line. Oh, the third and seven? Yeah, well and whatever, the third and Seven's one thing I thought the play before that was even more telling that Dez scored on that ball against Savior Rohads last year.

They threw it, you know, they love that play. He scored so many touchdowns on that play, and I just thought it seemed really telling that Ronald Derby tackled him by himself. I mean, Ronald Derby's a really good cornerback, but you expect as Bryant to break that tackle and

he probably scores if he does. At this point, there's really not much you can do about that, right, I mean, the way your team is constructed, Dez is the best you got at wide receiver, and what we're seeing right now is that you're getting really not a lot of consistent production from anyone else. It was, I mean so telling that I get Jason Witten to catch the ball in the first I think it was the first offensive play of the game, seven yards, and they didn't He

didn't get another ball the rest of the game. I mean, it's it's it's almost crazy to even think out that you got this tight end out here and you didn't find like, with your offense not even moving, you can't find another way to be able to get him more involved in the office and again, I know, I know without even having watched the tape that they probably kept their tight ends in an effort to help their offensive line.

But that doesn't mean you just have to abandon the concept of them in the passing game, Like it doesn't make sense to me. You know, what I did see a lot of times is when they did have a tight what they did they put a tight end on the side of Byron Bell and he just chipped him on its way out, which was fine. That's all you needed to do is just give him a little bit of help and then going to your route. And that's what they didn't do last week. It seem like they

did more of that this week. We'll talk a little bit about Byron Bell, but it seemed like he had a much better week than what Chaz Green had last year. Obviously statistically did. But I mean, when you think about it, I just don't I don't know how you don't get a guy like Jason Witten more involved in the offense, especially when it's struggling. That's an easy throw, right. It's almost like this is like a these are like just

the coaching staff can only make extreme decisions. Like it's like, well, Chad Green's gonna play left tackle for Tyrant Smith, and like, we'll help him a little bit, but not really we trust him out there. He's on an island just like Tyrant is. Well, that didn't work at all and they didn't really adjust to it during the course of that game. And so they come out here and we're like, well, we're giving the left tackle help. That's what we're gonna

help him on every single play. The tight end's gonna be there, the running back's gonna be there, We're gonna chip him. Just like there's no there's no malleability to the game planning, and it sure doesn't look that way. I mean, there's he threw thirty one passes, seventeen of them went to the rest of the team and fourteen go to Dez. I mean, fourteen targets to Dez totals sixty three yards. And that would be great if Dez was making great plays, right right, That's that's what you

see from a number one receiver. You give him a bunch of targets and they made great plays. It's just you're not getting the great plays, right, Yeah, he has. He really has no you know, yard type to the catch his average yesterday average with seven point nine. But I mean, you know he's not he's not breaking any tackles, he's doing anything. So it does have any egregious drops. One, I think he had a drop, Terrence had a drop, and Cole had a well I know I was gonna say.

I mean, Terrence obviously had his bobble, and then Cole Beasley dropped the first down. Yeah, I don't remember what down, that just third I think it was third down was one of Dak's best throws. An utter no show by everybody involved in the Dallas passing game. I mean, it was breathtakingly bad. And I'm like, maybe you're right. Maybe, and this is the twenty sixth ranked secondary in the NFL,

but maybe the Eagles change it up. Maybe they thought they'd be able to stop the Dallas running game without really over committing to it. Dak said after the game that it really didn't look any different than what he was expecting, which I'll take him at his word. But if that's the case, I mean, forcing that ball to Dez and double coverage on a I mean, I know it's third down, but that's why Dak Prescott has been so good he hasn't done stuff like that, like live

to fight another day if you have to. It's just it was everything about that was just incredibly a typical from what we've come to expect. I do wonder if part of that comes from, you know, him thinking, as we all thought, you got to take more of the load without Ezekiel Elliott out there, and maybe he tried to do a little too much because he felt like in order for the team to win, he had to do more in order to do it, rather than stay

within the offense. Y'all. It can disagree with me if you want to, and I mean, there's certainly there's certainly validity to your point that the first down running is not as good without Zeke. But I bet if you told them before the game that they were going to run for one hundred yards as a team, they would feel pretty good about what they'd be able to do.

I get all that. I think, to me, this is the exact same thing that happened to the Cowboys back in twenty fifteen, where you had a rusher who you look at his total numbers and you say they ran pretty good, but you watch the games and they were not able to run in situations where they needed to be able to run on first downs, short yardage like situations where they really need to be able to run

the ball. They were having a hard time running the ball. Yes, they would get some of those hollow yards and they break off a big run here there, twenty yards, fourteen yards here, but it was not a consistent thing, and they were not able to run in situations where they really needed to. And again I'm not saying you're wrong, but the thing that stands out to me is just the miscues in the passing game. Not being able to connect with Dez on a back shoulder ball again, like two,

how easy is it to throw a bubble screen? And like Dez was catching them off the carpet all night. Cole Beasley drops the third of what would have been a third down, Terrence Williams drops what turns into an interception that who knows how far that drive goes. Just that's what stands out to me as the real failures, right, especially like you go into these games without Ezekiel Elliott thinking this isn't gonna look as good as it would if Zeke was here. That's just a reality that you

got a face. But you know, it's not like Denver where you're running for point zero one yards per carry. Like, if you're getting movement, you're making them respect your ability to run. Alfred Morris said, what a long of I mean, dam he had a couple when he was as longest one Yeah, twenty two. Yeah, I mean no, it certainly isn't as dominant as it looks when Zeke and Tirner in there. But I thought it was good enough, and I think at least score a touchdown. Yeah. Honestly, I

think we're saying similar things. I think we're both pointing out two different flaws, and who knows which one had more of an effect on the game. I think they were both crippling to the offense, and I think both of them can't happen together. If one of those things happens and the other is really good, then you're okay. Like if he's only getting two yards on first down, but the passing game, like he says, doesn't have the miscus,

you're probably okay. And the same the other way. If the running game is much better than you don't have so many opportunities where you're going to have those miscus in the passing game. You just can't have both. We're gonna take our first break when we come back. Let's jump into this defense. They played a really as Amber said, played a really great first half and then the wheels just came off. We'll talk about that when we come

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It is the second second of the break flight from the day of the ABC Mortgage studios at the Star before we jumped back into Cowboys Versus Eagles. I didn't want to throw something out there. We just got some really bad news here this morning. Former Cowboy and Patriot wide receiver Terry glenn Um was killed apparently last night. Died last night at Parkland Memorial Hospital from a motor vehicle accident about ten twelve fifty two am this morning.

Glenn was a I mean, obviously pretty good receiver for the Cowboys. Uh probably, I would say the better part of his career was spent in New England, but was a good receiver for the Cowboys here for for several years. Nick, you've covered you covered him. Yeah. It was a good guy,

good good player. Yeah, he definitely was. Was a good player as a guy that parcels brought in and you know, as a parcels guy and you know ironically the um the famous quote in New England when he said, you know, if they want you to, you know, cook the dinner, you should at least be able to buy the groceries. Well, it was about Terry Glenn. I mean that was kind

of the issue there. I don't know if he really wanted him with the seventh overall pick, because it turned out he was a really good player for the Patriots and a guy that parcel became a parcels guy. He brought him in as a trade back in I think two thousand and three. He was a pretty good player there for Quincy Carter on that year they went to the playoffs and he and they paired him up I think with a Joey Galloway and then they were they

were pretty good there for a little while. Um, but you know he was he was still a fast guy, speed guy. I remember being in the training camp two thousand and seven and that the year was like, all right, we're almost coming into his own. You know this this could be Reno TiO, this could be a really good offense. And I remember right in front of me he was like, man, I heard a pop like something. You know, he kind of limped off. He's like he told the trainer heard

a pop. I don't know what happened. He didn't play again until the very last game of that season. He missed fifteen games and they played him in the playoffs. You know on that that interception Romo thrown in the indiends on against the Giants was actually going to Terry Glenn might have been the last game he played, I guess for the Cowboys, but didn't talk a lot, you know, it was kind of it was a little bit different guy. You know, he didn't talk much of the media. But

a super fast player, really good and really productive. Great hands, great hands, yeah, unbelievable hands, and uh he really he was. He was a dynamic player. But all that being said, that's just about the player. It's really sad about anybody you know in a situation like that. And saw forty three years old. Yeah, tough news. Tough news. That's funny. I mean, I'm just you and Iron Price think, yeah, well, yeah,

that's we were talking about it yesterday. You start getting up in age and you start people around you, you start hearing of debts of people that are younger than you, and it it certainly has a way of hitting home and you're letting you realize how fragile this thing called life really is. So I'll say the one thing about I remember he Shan Johnson talked about Terry Glynn. There are guys that would come in and run four two eight four three or whatever. You know. He's like, that's

that's all nice and good. But players, some receivers don't know how to play that way. They don't know how to play fast. You can run fast, I don't want to track somewhere, you know, but not not really when you get on the field with pads on, are you playing that way? And Terry Glenn could play he had aggressive speed. He had to be that. You just had to you know, you had to be you know, be scared of. And everyone knows my favorite play, the flea flicker.

The last time they've run it was to Terry Glenn against the Chiefs seventy one yard touchdown, drew bledsoe Terry Glenn. Time it worked that time, it should work most time. They haven't run a flea flicker in twelve years. I think, so wow, I really if they did, it kind of got blown up right now that they didn't have a big no I don't think they have. I really don't think. I know, they haven't been successful with it. All right, Well, Dad, thoughts and prayers out to Terry Glenn's family. Let's get

back to Cowboys versus Eagles. We didn't have a chance to talk about the defense very much in that first segment yesterday. They get zero sacks, they get zero forced fumble, zero fumble recoveries. They do have six quarterback hits. But you know, we talked about it all last week. When you're playing against Carson Wentz, he is a big body guy and hitting him is not good enough taking him down as a chore, And there were several times last night when Cowboys defenders got to him but did not

manage to even get close to getting him down. He'd move around and before you know it, he was away from them and being able to complete passes down field. Talk to me about how this defense performed overall, Well, I mean, obviously without Sean Lee, you know, it's tough, and they were doing a nice job in the first half the Like you said, I don't remember exactly when Hitchins went out of the game. I don't, yeah, and I honestly don't either. I just started noticing that Jalen

was out there more. It was third quarter and I was like, why are they still And they got Jalen out there with Grant. I was like, why is that happening? And then we couldn't find him on the sideline. Yeah, I think I think the Eagles made some adjustments. Obviously, they made adjustments and they realized where they could they could run the ball, and you know, they went in the third quarter, they really just started to gash them there. So, um, you know, it was it was a nice effort for

the for the Cowboys in the first half. I thought they were flying around on the ball and secondary did a nice job and they got off the field at times there in that second quarter. But uh, you know, ultimately the Eagles kind of realized what how they could they could move it, and you know it it was kind of like the Falcons game. You know, it was just kind of a slow death. But we wake up after sixty minutes. He's like, dang, let's a blow out. The last time that I'm seeing on here, I'm looking

at the stat sheet. Last time I see a play with Hitchens on It was the third and six from the Dallas eleven touchdown from Carson Wentz to Smith Tory Smith. It was eleven yard touchdown, and say it shows Anthony Hitchins as the defender that actually I guess made the tackle in the end zone. But but that was that's the last time I see him on the on the

injury port. So maybe it happened on that play or a play subsequent to that, but that's about the end that the was that the roughly about midway through the third quarter when they lost him. He ain't playing this week. Yeah, I saw him last night in the locker room. The way he was walking. If he plays this week, they got some really really good drugs, Like he was just walking like the way he was walking. Obviously it's a groin injury and he was barely kind of shuffling along.

It did not look good and it looked very painful. Dan Bailey's been gone for a month with a groin and Tyrn Smith has been out for two weeks with a groin. I know, no two injuries are created equal, but to think somebody can play on three and a half days from that, no way. But my main thing is, and you know, I'm maybe I'm an apologist for the defense in the sense that, like I just have a hard time just beating them up, knowing going in, first of all, they're not great to begin with, and they

also don't have their best player. I get it, no excuses all that, but it reminds me a lot of the Rams game in a sense that I mean, they gave you a window to do something, and that's about as much as I could ask for. I know, in a perfect world they're great all the time, and they hold the Eagles to ten offensive points like they did with the Chiefs. But I mean after the opening touchdown, the Eagles go five plays, four plays, three plays, three plays,

three plays, three plays. I mean that's six possessions in a row where they really didn't move the ball at all, and maybe if your offense is better, it allows you to build a lead, maybe even a double digit lead. Like I said, of course, the way the Eagles move the ball in the second half, maybe it looks a lot like the Rams game and it evaporates. But you at least could have given yourself a puncher's chance and missed opportunities, not missed opportunities by the offense. But then

Anthony Brown maybe catch that interception. Maybe what was that if if you make even a decent effort at intercepting that ball, you might score a touchdown. I mean, you know, you can't assume too much, but it certainly looked like he had the real estate to do it. Just missed opportunity. I mean, you could have gone You could have gone into halftime. They were up nine to seven at half. Ye could have gone into halftime up I mean at minimum sixteen seven, which is two possessions, or maybe even

twenty three. I mean again, six possessions in a row where you're over seven. Oh, because you missed way two. I mean that's fair based on what they looked like. But you would like to think as as solid as this offense has been for the majority of the season, you I mean six six there? Oh, hey, that is that's my recorder. I was wondering about that, Dave. Oh, I look like an idiot. Manage to get yourself on TV? And so as I knew, like I try to stay out from Jerry because you when if you behind Jerry,

you're gonna wind up on TV. But I just didn't have a choice. And you know, the worst feeling in the world is just you're trying to get into the scrum, and then the worst feeling in the world is to look up all of a sudden realize, oh I'm behind, Oh god, I'm gonna be on camera, and you know, and then you gotta sit there the whole time, like, look interested, don't look like you're looking at the wrong thing or thinking about the wrong thing. Just pay attention.

And somebody in the scrum said something that made me laugh last night, and I was like, that's gonna look great on TV. Like I'm just laughing while the owner of the team's talking about how terrible this game is or something. I don't know, right, but I mean six possessions in a row where one of the best offenses in the league wasn't doing anything. You Like, I said, maybe you don't win the game, but you'd like to think that you could have made some hay during that

stretch in the second quarter. Yep, Anthony Hitchins led the team with five tackles last night, and obviously now he's going to assume he's going to be out on Thursday. What do they do at this point, because I don't know if it doesn't sound like this is a situation where Lee is going to be prepared to come back by Thursday? Um, what do they do right now? Do you do you know that? Like? I don't know that. No, it sounded like it was going to be a longer

period of time than just this this game. But I don't know. Maybe maybe he is. You guys tell me I don't either. I just I don't know. Um, I'm not going to rule it out here on Monday morning before I've had a chance to hear anything. But I mean, it is a soft tissue injury. It doesn't seem likely. Maybe if they were playing Sunday, he'd have a better chance. But he missed two games with the injury before, right, Yeah, two games, and I mean he missed really, so he's

just missed a game and a half here. Yeah, it doesn't really look good. I guess it's not a good bet to think he'll be ready to go. So what do you do? Do they need to bring in guys or do they have enough bodies? And then it's just a matter of how do those bodies play? Well? They have play? Um without those two guys before, right, didn't

look very good? No, they didn't actually no, um, no, Green Bay the Rams, right, they didn't have Hitchens came back for Green Bay and Lee got hurt during the Cardinals game, so they didn't have either for the Rams, which you know that doesn't look good. I mean, I mean good defense obviously shut them down last night or yesterday seven fights against Minnesota. Theoretically they have the bodies, but I don't like how okay, I was gonna say, how in good conscience can you go into the game

with just that? But like, also, what do you do You're on a short week here, Like what is somebody who's not here going to do for you right now? I mean, really, well, you can have McFadden spot. I mean they could have that. I mean they were going there and just we were going there next day. Well, I mean that's a spot that that that could be open if they need to go good I guess I guess My point is, I mean, unless Luke Keekley's coming in, Like who's going to get ready in three and a

half days. I think Luke has a team right now. I know, yeah, and I'm aware of that, thank you, m Navarro Bowman. He's got a busy to still out that now they're a guy on the practice squad. I don't think they have. I mean, you only have ten. You only have ten spots on your practice squad. You can't have a linebacker. I don't believe they have a

linebacker on their practice squad. So so you're right, you'd have to go out and find somebody, bring them in, get them acclimated to be able to play on Thursday. It's a lot that's not smart at all when you have a guy that was retired twice, a guy that gets hurt a lot, and Sean Lee a guy that gets hurt pretty often, and Anthony Hitchins and a guy that's really nine hundred percent, and Jalen Smith and the practice I'm sorry, what do we got? Ty VI Johnson?

Oh yeah, he joined the team. That's it? Like, well, that's a pretty smart but they got a guy. They got a guy that at least has been here and kind of knows. Maybe what's I apologize? Yeah, I mean that would not make sense to have ten guys on your practice squad and really not have a lot of those positions covered. So I apologize. Trey Villon Johnson, Keith Smith, Ah, in an emergency situation. I'm sure they did that earlier

this year. They had him practiced there. But I mean so Jalen Durant, Justin Marshall, Lillard, Kyle Wilber, maybe Keith Smith. Am I forgetting anybody? Oh, Damien Wilson. I mean so I'm assuming pers only scored fifty four? Yes, yeah, what in all their offense, but which it's a lot of perntsuf. I don't care who are you playing and under what circumstances. That's a lot of points. In turn, he didn't he didn't. I don't know about the impact place. He didn't have

the sack or the near interception. But when Hitchens was still on the field, it sure seemed like Jalen Smith was playing one of his better games. Like he had a nice thump on a on an out route and he chased. I mean the guy got six or seven yards, but like he made that type of play where you're like, oh, this guy's got some range to come across the field and make a tackle. And then Anthony went out and the rest is history. And I mean that's just the

epitome of this Dallas defenses. And like you know, I called Chaz Green flex seal, like they're just held together by like duct tape. And all it takes is one thing, and it just kind of falls apart crazy parts. There's so many guys on the offense and defense that you could afford to lose and still be able to function. And the Cowboys have lost all the other guys, the guys that really you can't function without that their best players seem to be the players that they continuously are losing.

And again, that's just the nature of the NFL. Nobody feels sorry for you, It's just what happens in the NFL. And this is one of those years for the Cowboys. Nobody feels sorry for you. And you know, I'm echo I feel like I'm probably echoing a lot of fans here. I know what a phenomenal player Shan Lee is, and I think Anthony Hitchins is the most underrated player on the team. But it's amazing the difference between how solid they can look with that one guy on the field

and how utterly happen less they are. But doesn't that also tell you just how close how close margin yeah, between these teams, Like it's just it's not as big a difference as people want to believe. There are two or three teams in this league that are far below everybody else. There are two three teams that are far above everybody else. Everybody else. That margin is so so small.

You take out a significant player like Sean Lee, and then, by the way, take out another significant player like Tyren Smith, and then another significant player like Ezekiel Elliott, and guess what that's probably what you're gonna get is a much

different looking team than what you had before. The counter argument, of course, being that the Eagles appear to be humming and just fine without Jason Peters and Jordan Hicks, who they lost for the season during the course, and then they lost somebody else too, didn't they another really good sproles? That's who is which you know, and that type of stuff happens. The Cowboys lost Shawn Lee in twenty fourteen, and Rolando McClean stepped right up in his place. I mean,

there's there's big picture stuff you can talk about. I mean, you know, did this team really do enough work at linebacker in the offseason to like ensure themselves. It doesn't look that way. I Mean the counter argument that to that is, is it really fair to expect that not just I mean, Shaun Lee's got his injury history too, But Shawn Lee and Anthony Hitchins both now have been severely laid low by injuries. Jalen Smith hasn't gotten to

where they hope they would be. You could have foreseen a decent amount of this coming, but at some point, it's just a lot of stuff going Again. Here's the other thing to consider too, though you mentioned you know, they're a linebacker. The Eagles linebackers nowhere near being their best defensive player. Right if they lost Fletcher Cox, now we may be talking about a different defense. Then maybe

that's the problem here. I mean, I mean, how many teams lose their weak side linebacker and then just all hell breaks loose. I mean that that's the problem they they have, that they're too dependent on a guy that's not very dependable. And and then you know, you're right, the Eagles, they're they're badasses up front, you know, making Zach Martin looked bad at times, Travis Frederick and those guys like there. I mean, that's how good he is.

And the Cowboys best players is a weak side linebacker, and that you can't always the line that has a history of injuries. Yeah, yeah, So the structure of the defense maybe is not what it needs to be. And I mean, obviously they've tried to get some help there and defensive line, and they've made a lot of efforts to get some pass right and the defensive line is better this year. We've got to give him credit for that.

They didn't get the sacks yesterday. They've as a season, as a season has progressed, They've been as good as they've been in a long time. Along the defense in front. They have not been the weakness that was going to kill the team that everybody thought they would be. I'll give him that. Let's take our final break. We'll come back. We do need to talk a little bit about Darren McFadden. I know Nick's waiting to talk about that. We'll take some side. Really, we'll take some time to get into

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no adjustment needed. You don't have to adjust anything, you know, and that's kind of like a game plane. You just throw it out there. Whatever it is is the way it is, and you don't have to mess with it and think about it. And that's really the problem with this team, and we've seen the last two weeks they don't adjust. Well, that's what Tommy John gives you two and it's better when you're talking about underwear. You don't want to see adjustments. It's uncomfortable for everyone. Tommy John,

They've got great material, great fabric. You don't even think you're wearing underwear. At also shop ex Schools of Cowboys Underwear Tommy John dot com forward slash Cowboys for twenty percent off your first order. You never have to adjust. Good for underwear, no, no bo Good for football, bad for underwear. That's what I meant. Adjustment Is it good for oh oh? I thought you're saying not adjusting. Yes,

adjustments are good for football, bad for runner. I mean it would be nice to just kind of you know, those good high school teams. I have six players and they just says, well we do. We're not worried about it. Be nice? You can't. Can you want to talk about McFadden ahead? If you had another topic, we can we talk about that. I mean, and I agree, I'm not I'm not trying to defend anybody associated with that game, but you know that's the like, that's the big thing

is like they didn't make any adjustments. And they didn't and I'm not defending them, but like, what what could they have adjusted? Do y'all think? Like what did they not do that you would have liked to have seen? And again, like if it sounds like I'm defending them,

I'm not. It really it legitimately perplexes me too, because I sit there and I'm like, well, is there is there an adjustment that they can make that's gonna allow them to stop the number four rushing offense in the league from taking advantage of the fact that two of their best players are out. My justice would have been offensive. I think the Cowboys should have done different things. More

things were using a quarterback getting him moved around. I think that would have been a better option for them, and it would have I think netted them more production. Offensively, They got to be more creative when they don't have their best offensive player, or really they're two top offensive players, they got to be more creative. They are not good enough to just say we'll line up with the guys, next man up, and we'll just line up and do what we did before. You can't do that. They don't

have the ability. There is a fine line up. Yeah, next man up just means he's got to fill the spot. Now. The coaches need to figure out how to get that guy an opportunity because he's not as good as the guy whose place he's taken, or he'd be playing out there everything. And it's a it's not an indictment of the guy that has to do that to change the way you're playing, you know, like sorry, that's just the

nature of it. And yeah, there's a fine line between having confidence in your guys and to quote Garrett, putting them in the best position to succeed like they have him been putting guys in positions to succeed in my opinion, Yeah, but I mean, yeah, it's the word adjustment is thrown around so often, and I think it's important to like take a step back and think about that offensively, for sure, I don't know. I don't know what type of adjustments I make to fix this defense mid game. You know,

they honestly, in my opinion, I agree with Amber. They really kind of played above their heads the first half. I mean, and that's why the offense got to be looking at the game saying we squandered an opportunity because the defense gave them an opportunity if they could have gotten things going to be able to have a lead lead going into the half, so that when the Eagles came out and made the run, which we all knew

a run was gonna come. When they came out and made the run, maybe you already had enough points to where you could just kind of stave them off and give yourself a chance to win. They didn't take advantage of the opportunity was presented to them by the defense in the first half. Well, you know, Davey asked what kind of adjustment the should have made should I don't know. I'm not that far in advance to know what kind of adjustments should have been made. All I do know

is that they're not making any. When you see both teams come out in the second half and clearly perform completely different than they did in the first half and being able to kind of keep everything going. That's something that obviously we've seen the Cowboys they been struggling with that. And you guys want to talk about the defense, and I see everyone, you know, talk about defense and not

having Sean Lee and not having Anthony Hitchens. Now let's talk about the offense again, Like if you're not scoring points, you're not going anywhere. And this is just I'm just upset right now. I'm trying to filter myself and not kind of go all out. But again, I was somewhat pleased with what the offensive line was doing. And you within get to talk about Byron Bell. You guys, you Dave kept talking about that tape that would help Byron

you know, the duct tape or whatever. Yeah, it's called Chas Green that Iron Bell did that last night and he was able to handle that. And again, I don't know what's going on. They really too. That's funny really when you think about it, how good this offense was last year, how good this offense has been during most of the time this year. To say, in the last two games, again without Ezekuel Elliott, they have managed a grand total of sixteen offensive points and only one touchdown

in two games. That to me, and that's why I opened the show with the question, I think you have to start looking at the fact that Ezekiel Elliott makes that big of a difference for this offense until I see otherwise, and you say, can a running back really make that big of a difference? Nick, you talked about

a few weeks ago. We saw this happen a long time ago, back in the nineties where the Cowboys entered a season without em and Smith, and that offense was a good offense without him and Smith, they weren't winning, and he came back and then all of a sudden they go on a run. I think it can happen when you have a great running Okay, but who cares. I mean, it's over right now. He's not coming back

for a month, so like you can't worry. I mean, yes, he's great, he's he's it's you know, we've answered the question about last year, was it Dak or was it Zeke? Okay, question has been answered that is Dak better than wins? A question has been answered. We get it now, So now they got to figure out what, like you said earlier, this this offensive coordinator Scott Linahan, and this team needs

to figure out ways to get these guys involved. And it's not just throwing the ball over the deads and just say be a beast and beat the guy because you're not letting round Darby. You know he what is he five four? And you can't you can't make a play on him. And then they throw the ball up in the air and he just kind of chucks him out. You know. I mean, it's gonna be a big beast.

You gotta play like one. You know something that's interesting though, You mentioned Dak versus Wentz, and I think they flipped spots because last year Wentz didn't have the players around him in order for him to be successful. What did the Eagles go out this offseason? Due they went out and surrounded him with a bunch of weapons. You think about what they did not just in the off season.

Then they get to a couple of weeks ago and they go out and get JAYGII to add to their running like they have surrounded him with a ton of weapons, and the Cowboys, due to other things, have Zekiel it's not on the field, Tyrn's not on the field. You want to know why their left tackle is working. Is because they got receivers out there who can get open and as alshon Jeffrey Show yesterday, even when they're not open, you put a ball in the right spot, he'll get

it and score touchdown. How saying that we had a shovels with that, that could be a problem there in the press box, But that's my point is that they really they've surrounded him with enough playmakers to where it's not just about Carson Wentz anymore. He has skill, no doubt about it, but they've gotten some really good players around him. You kind of get the vibe from the coaching staff and the way that they've put this team together. Like there's definitely a vibe around the Cowboys. I think

that that they're the smartest guys in the room. You know, they're like, we get like, we we got this Rod Smith is he's he's good stuff. Gonna be surprised how good this guy is and yeah, and you're like, well, you know, yeah, we just get get me to that point. But but just like we've we've covered you know, we've

covered our bases. We're good. Whereas mean, while like the Eagles are doing this like obvious stuff, and you're like, it almost seems desperate that they're like just trying to accrue all of these guys to help Carson Wentz, Well, it turns out you need that stuff and if your frontline option goes down, uh, you know something, Alfred Morris rod Smith there McFadden like, it sounds like good, and I mean it sounds logical on the surface, but then

you get into the games and you see that you're mistaken. I mean, that's certainly what it looks like right now. I mean maybe those moves weren't as smart as they looked four or five months ago. Yeah, I mean we can get into I guess the McFadden part there. I mean people on Twitter were like, am I okay? But I mean yeah, I'm fine. I what I don't understand if you were Yeah, you're like, anyone heard about him? You know, anyone heard from him? I mean I talked

to McFadden on Friday or Thursday. He says he's had he's had a pretty good week of practice and he's excited about it. The issue is that the Cowboys keeps saying, we've got to get back to work. Guy, get to work. Because what Jason always says, well, if you're practicing a player who's done a nice job and it sounds like he's he is going to you know, he's a part of the game plan, and then you don't play him, then then you're he's taking reps away from somebody. I

mean rod Smith, great story. You know, Jalen's brother and he Oh, this guy's surprised, But really, what has he ever done to deserve this this type of opportunity? I mean he had I mean what has he done? He hasn't really done anything. He's getting an opportunity. He hasn't done anything with it in the two games so far, and it's just like, I mean, why wouldn't you want to go with a guy that can, that has he's been proven, and he's been proven like two years ago.

You know, he's not like he's just ten years ago. He's been proven. So I don't understand why you practice the guy you don't play him. You need something kind of spark in the running game, and you're not giving him the shot and you get him to rod Smith because maybe because but maybe it's because they feel like from what they've seen from Darren McFadden didn't have it anymore, right, and then cut him. Yeah, I get you just cut him.

But that's my thing about the running back position. That's why I would have preferred them to have instead of having two old backs who did it back in the day, get a little more of a get a young guy in there that at least has pride, legs and his hungry and let's see what he can do behind this offensive line that seems to work a lot of times in the NFL. You just throw a young guy out there and at least for a game or two, he can get you some good production and and you're like,

oh wow, where does this guy come from? That? So it happened with the Green Bay Packers earlier this year. There's a guy in Baltimore doing the same things. That's games like that does the kid from A and M'm on the practice squad, Trey Williams Just I mean, seriously, at this point, I'd rather have him in the game then and have somebody, you know, young with with with fresh legs. I mean, I mean, I just don't know what's happening with McFadden. But but it's one thing just

to not practice him. But he practiced more this week. He was doing some things to be involved, and then you know, I just don't think they're telling everything what's going on. I mean, does it come down to the difference between winning and losing? But but no, but it doesn't. It's certainly baffling though, Like and it doesn't. It doesn't make sense. I said that last. I mean, here, I was thinking they were keeping him fresh because they thought

Zeke would eventually have to serve this suspension. That's clearly not the case. And I why why is he on the roster if he's inactive in a game where Ezekiel Ellie's suspended, Like, it doesn't make sense. It's very bizarre, and you want to say, well, you know, maybe two games in five days. You know you're playing someone Thursday. They want him to have fresh on Thursday. I mean that sounded logical too, but I don't really believe it. Yeah, I mean it doesn't make sense. I mean, he got

one carry in Atlanta. Am I really supposed to believe he would have suddenly had thirty in this game and then he wouldn't be fresh for the Chargers. I don't think so. But I don't win the game Thursday, though. I mean, we're just gonna I'm gonna throw that out there right now. I wouldn't be remotely surprised, honestly, basically, like what I've learned back to Thanksgiving. There, it's upsets

every time on Thanksgiving, I hear you all. The only thing I keep about it is they put up fifty yesterday, And now you're telling me the top two linebackers, not just the top one linebacker, the top two linebackers are gonna be out of the game LT running for them. It's certainly not gone. But they got a pretty good runner over there, like yeah, and with the how the offense is playing, I mean I would be watching the game, Oh cool, the offense is in awesome, this is this

is it? This is it. Guy's okay. Next thing I know, I take a drink. Oh shoot, the offense is coming out. Here's the defense coming back in the field like it wasn't. In and out, in and out. That's you're saying. You're drinking up there water start. I was about to say it might not be a bad idea yesterday, and I didn't. It didn't affect me at all, um, But but I did hear like early on, like about an hour or

two after the game, which is still pretty early on. Um, both kegs in the press box like literally gone gone, like it was like all I have to look forward to after a game like that is the knowledge that I'm gonna be able to drink a beer on my way out of the stadium, and just kind of they were gone, all gone, all gone. Drinking. Drinking was happening earlier, Yeah, everybody, Yeah, they were pounding some bruise just one of those nights. Well,

yeah it was. And I don't know that your point really resonated with me right there, which Okay, I always knew how much ezekiel Elli had meant to this offense, and like his success and Dak's success went go hand in hand. But I have seen enough really amazingly good play from Dak Prescott that I never would have thought that it would look this bad without Zeke. I mean, I agree, like I said, I mean, two games in a row. Now, the running game hasn't been pretty, but

it's been there. They've gone over one hundred yards and both of their games without Zeke, and it's just that's the nature of this offensive line. Though they're good enough for you to get some you're gonna pop a couple plays here and there. Right, I've seen I've seen enough good decision making, improvisation, and I mean great throws, Like really, I mean, he's an accurate quarterback. He's made some fantastic throws in his career. I'm not saying he's all the

way there yet. He's certainly not Aaron Rodgers. But I've seen Dak play well enough often enough that I really am surprised by how bad it has looked these last two games, first of which I really have a hard time putting on him, but last night, I mean, I'm looking around for somebody else to blame, and I don't know where else to put it other than to think,

man Ezekiel Elliott really is a valuable valuable player. You know what's really sad is that it's like third and eight and at the or third and seven, maybe from the nine, and like when there's a time out in the field, like Dave tweets out, I don't really like the back shoulder fade, but I don't see any other play that would really work, you know, and you're thinking, Okay, well, you know that's why you don't. You're not paid to

do that. These people that are paid six figures to go do that, and they come out and they fell back shoulder fade a days, it goes out of bounds, and it's like, you know, if you think that, because you don't really see another play, and the Eagles probably are like, you know what, what's really gonna hurt us here other than a pass the desk? So let's make sure and stop that. I mean, yeah, that's kind of the sad part is is that we shouldn't be calling

plays like that. How about how about, like you know, like the NFL is a copycat league, get that that throwback to Brent Selik into the playbook. Where's that type of play? You know, and that's the type of thing. That's the type of thing I expected to see, Like get your tight ends involved in a like you know, maybe you're the third option, maybe you roll out on a delayed screen after a play action fake or something like,

you didn't see any of that. The lower the quality of your players, the way more creative you've got to be with what you do with But they don't appear to think that they don't, and they appear to think that they can line up and go. That's what happened in twenty fifteen, the same thing. You just keep banging your head on the wall and you're like, guess what, you've lost six in a row. Yeah, switch it up. All right, Thank you guys for joining us. We are

back tomorrow. We'll be at our normal time at nine thirty. We'll tell you guys, we'll start getting you ready actually, because this game's coming up fast. Well, good, look at the San Diego Charger offense versus the Cowboys defense. We'll do that tomorrow. Till then, for Nick, even Dave Helmet, amber Garcia, I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Rady. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club