Cowboys Break: What Went Wrong vs. GB?

episode number fifty two. Welcome to another edition of The Break, live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star, and we got a lot, Man, we got so much to talk about today. The Cowboys lose. They are now two and three on the season. They lose a game to the Green Bay Packers that just I don't know, It just seems to be more of the same from the standpoint of how they match up against these Packers. We talked about it all last week, Dave, you and Nick.

I think I can't remember who exactly started saying that God was coming to town, but I will I won't call him God, but I will say the dude is about as close to that as you would get on a football field. Um, Aaron Rodgers just I mean, it's just amazing what he does with the football, especially in crunch time. Yeah, I think that was that was Nick that coined that, and it was kind of facetious, I

feel like. But uh no, Nick, facetious, I know, right, Uh but yeah, I mean that's that's the night, you know. I hate to say I told you so, but that's more or less how I saw that thing playing out. Sorry, uh yeah, I mean what else do you want? I mean, that's I'm unbelievable the things he can younger version. Yikes, that's terrifying. That's terrifying. No, you said it, right, I

mean you said that. I mean they probably should be scared of him, and and they they weren't as scared as they probably should have been because they, you know, at some point in the game, they still you gotta go stop him. And that's why I don't have any really any issues with how the game kind of played out from the Cowboys. I mean, he could have done a few plays here and there, but they went out and they put it on their defense to stop the guy for a minute, and they couldn't do it. I mean,

that's just as simple as that. I don't know why it's really we shouldn't over oversimplify it. They had the game, they went out there, they were to go nine minutes with the ball eight forty three on a drive, I mean one thirteen to go. What else can you ask for? Thirty or forty more seconds? That's running, I mean running

thirty or more, sorry, four seconds off the clock. It's a Monday morning, and we will get to I will say this to Get today afternoon, we're going to get We're going to get to those details, and I think they're worth discussing. Um. And I do want to give you a chance to kind of sound off, because I think you had picks all over this board. One of them obviously had to hit right. It's a good point. I mean, like, I'm glad you didn't let her sweet Oh, I'm not let lie that I was. I was talking

to her all about it yesterday. I'm not letting this lad on this, you know. I mean, I get that people are mad at the result of this game, and so am I. But at the same time, I'm like, are you really surprised with the outcome of this game? Now? I was telling Nick after towards the end of the game, right after the game. I think it was. I'm like, well, there's some positive side to it. He's like, what kind of positive can you find out of this? Wait? Wait, wait, wait, wait,

that's that's exactly not what I said. Yes, you did. You did say that. I absolutely didn't say that. We're about to do our first word and you said there's a lot of positives, and I did not say a lot. And I said, but just don't bring him up on the air because nobody wants to hear about him. I didn't. Okay, I think Derek gave me the floor to talk right now. Yeah, thank you very much. Misunderstood me with it. No, you did say that. I'm like, okay, whatever, Nick, But you know,

I the the positive things. Did you say some positive things there? I did? I did, and I think I agree. I actually agree with both of you guys. I think there are some positive things. I don't think fans really care about it. Oh, I know, I know. I mean, at the end of the day, they still lost. What game? What positives? What are we talking about? You want to

get to the positive. I think that what they did in the fourth quarter offensively, I look at that and say, maybe there is a sign that this offense is can actually start to run the ball. Now, what flips that on his head is the first three quarters they couldn't run the ball for anything. So you kind of wonder which was really the truth of the matter in that game.

But they certainly in the fourth quarter they got the running game going, and you would think that was a time in the game when the Packers should have been throwing everything at stopping the run, and they were able to run effectively. If the only positive I'm willing to concede from this entire game is that Dak is the dude, Like he's awesome. I'm really even you know, there's things you can criticize him for. There always are win or lose, but I'm not worried about like a sophomore slump or

whatever you want to criticize him for. I thought he played phenomenally, and I also don't care because they lost, so right, Yeah, that's that's exactly what I said, is, yes, there were some things that you can point to and say I liked this particular thing about that game, but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter because they lost the game. That's about as much as I'm

willing to concede though, like I don't. I don't care that they got the running game cranking in the fourth quart right, we all, I just said, it doesn't matter. It doesn't make a more consistent offense from the Cowboys, did you not? I thought it looked it was the same thing as last week. No, really, we got we got to see Jason wit and more involved would definitely, which definitely helped them. We got to see Cole basically involved two touchdowns from him. Yea, So we did see

them do different things that clearly helped him. They moved the ball on and off, they struggled to run, and they found it. They had more success, arguably in the second half than the first fourth quarter, even first three. It's yeah, I mean, I I get your point. I guess they were a little more consistent. I think the quality of the defense probably has a little bit to do with that. Um, I mean it. Yeah, it doesn't

change well, it doesn't change the result. And it wasn't drastically different enough that I'm that it really made me like sit forward in my seat. You know, it didn't. It didn't. It wasn't drastically different enough to where you think it means something of the future. Is that what you're kind of saying, Yes, right, all right, let's dive into some of the No, let's dive into some of the details, because I do think there were a lot of different details we need to hit in this game.

And I want to start first with with the coaching decision, because I think that's something that's probably being talked about by more fans, and even Jerry talked about it after the game. You got basically, it's a minute twenty four left in the fourth quarter, Cowboys have the ball, second and one on the Green Bay eleven, and they make the decision that they want to pass on that play. Now, obviously they throw the pass. It's incompletely stops the clock.

By the way, Green Bay still has a time out left. The thinking there is, if you run the ball, even if you don't get in the end zone there, you at least for screen Bay to take that final time out. Without that final time out on that last drive, it maybe changes what they're able to do. They were able to run the ball a couple of times, and one of the runs they actually needed a pretty good game. Maybe they don't do that if they don't have a timeout because they don't feel like they have enough time

to do it. I want to get your opinions around the table. What do you think of that coaching decision. Do you think it was a big blunder for them or do you think it really didn't matter at the end of the day. Let's start first with you, Nick. It mattered. It definitely mattered at the end of the day, you know. But at the time, I mean, you are trying to score. I mean, there's you can't get cute down there, so you have to score a touchdown one

hundred percent. Everyone knows that. And so you can we look back now and go, oh, the way it played out, the way Dak ran it in for you know, eleven yards or whatever. You're like, man, you sure would have liked to have thirty more seconds off the clock and their time out gone. So yeah, I don't know if I wouldn't of throwing it on second down, there's no way. First of all, it's not a high percentage pass. It's

just not anymore. I mean, it's not a play. It's a high percentage just to run the ball, get the first down and do that. So yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna sit there and crucify them because they have to score a touchdown and they scored a touchdown. So that's number one goal is to score touchdown and they did. And after what's his name dropped the ball Terrence Williams, they're gonna get to that too. That's one of those others.

But after that that huge play, if anyone says, you know what, they're gonna go seventeen plays, eighty four yards, they're gonna take off nine minutes of the clock and they're gonna leave Aaron Rodgers for a minute thirteen to go win the game. It's a lot, it's a lot of time, but still but you're like, a I'll take that, and they did it. So they went and scored. I don't know how you can really fault them. They scored,

all right, Amber, I mean, I agree with nick. I don't even want to get into days because it's gonna be a man here. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be heated. But I agree with nick I Again, if you see an opening, you're gonna run. You can't blame Dad. Now, I would have maybe done differently on the second down, but scoring the touchdown, and that's something that a lot of people have been talking about on Twitter and all that. Like he said after, can you guys hear me? I

can't hear myself anyware. Okay, sorry, guys. Like Dak said himself in the press conference, it's like their main goal is to score a touchdown. They can't play around. That's like playing with fire. That's what he said. You can't play around and get like Nick said, cute with it. And the defense, they get paid to do their job, so you would expect this defense to be able to get the job done, even though we know what this

defense is. And at the end of the day, you just you just have to kind of trust them a little bit and not put everything on the offense. But the hold, I'm just saying I want to make a distinction here because I want to be clear there are two different areas here that we're talking about. I specifically was talking about the play, the decision to throw the ball on second down, and you introduced also the idea

of maybe Da going down rather than scoring. I think those are two different things because one of them I think is kind of ridiculous. To even think that Dad should just go down to me is dumb because if you do that and then the next play, you get a penalty. Now you're back. Let's say you get a holding call. Go back and look at the Rams game when Frederick, they're on the goal line, gets a holding call,

Like it happens. You get a holding call, you're back at the eleven, and now you're putting in jeopardy your ability to score. So I don't think that's even a question. You score when you have an opportunity to score. What I'm specifically talking about here, though, is the decision that they wanted to throw on second down. I think that's one that is debatable. So on that one, do you think that that was a big deal or not? Well,

it clearly was. I mean I think Dad would have definitely helped cut down some you know, trimmed down some of that time that was left on the clock. But again, the coaching decision decisions that they make during game days, everyone can get into it and not agree, not fully

agree with what they decide on there. So it's I'm not I'm not gonna start talking crap about Jason Garrett, but some of their decisions, it's kind of like but at the same time, I'm not in his position, so we can judge all we want from the outside, but we don't really know what's happening down there and what they're going through. Dave nik a deep breath, let's go. First of all, I would I have not and would not advocate for Dak Prescott to take a knee on

an obvious touchdown run. I don't, I don't. That's not smart. Um Having said that, that was catastrophic failure of coaching decisions in the red zone in a situation like that, and one second down, yea, well, well the whole s the whole thing. But yeah, the second down throw for sure. Yeah, you a minute twenty four left. Even if you just run the ball into the line and try to get a first down, you can take that down to forty seconds. You could presumably get them to burn their time out

or not if they want to hold it. For Aaron Rodgers, that's fine. The clock needed to be under forty seconds when you scored that touchdown if you were going to win that game. And I even I posted the tweet last night on Twitter, Aaron Rodgers said his thought process when he saw how much time was left was I'm thinking touchdown. I'm thinking we're gonna win this game. We've

got the time, we've got the timeouts. Even if you take it down to forty seconds, you can probably force him to think field goal instead of touchdown, which changes everything even just again just by running the ball, and then you can still do your read option if you want to and try to score. But I don't understand why you're trying to pass right there. It's and I get it. I get it. The object is to score. But you are playing the guy that we just referred

to as God. And it's okay to keep that in mind. It's okay to think about that. It's okay to say I don't like this. For our defense, if we're giving this guy that much time, we have to burn more time. And Nick is right to a point that it's hard to ask for much more seventeen plays, eighty four yards, whatever it was in this situation against this guy. You

got to ask for more. You got to because we have a game worth of evidence in this on this particular afternoon, not to mention a month worth of other evidence that this defense probably is not up to the task. I'm sorry if that's harsh. I know you Amber said, you know you have to trust your defense at some point. Why, why would you in any circumstance want to trust these guys to stop one of the best to ever do it? Okay,

Dave ever do it? And sorry, one more one more point, which is, and you know this is hindsight if you want to call it Monday morning quarterbacking. I'm oh so serious when I say I'd rather lose that game twenty eight, twenty four trying to manipulate the clock and score on my terms rather than put that game on the defense against that quarterback. I'm dead serious because and you can attest to this because I was standing right next to you.

As soon as they scored that touchdown, I looked up at the clock and I said, yeah, they're gonna lose this game. And they did because they managed it that poorly. And it's it's not fair because that drive was a thing of beauty. And you would like to think that your defense is up to that challenge, but they're not. And you have to know that with every decision that you make down there, you have they had to win

that game by bleeding that clock. You can't just hope for the best against one of the best quarterbacks to ever play. You have to know your team. You have to knowing this defense. I don't think there's anything that we've seen that suggests that this defense is going to stop him, and that speaks, in my opinion, way more to who Aaron Rodgers is as a player. Absolutely defense is not I'll be the first person to tell you that I don't think the defense is as bad as

they probably get credit for. But they're not up to stopping Aaron Rodgers. It only made be three or four defenses exactly that in that scenario would stop Aaron rod You're the Seattle Seahawks by all means. Put it on your defense to get a stop, and you might be able to. But you might be able to. What have you seen from the Dallas Cowboys defense really anytime in the last five years that would give you confidence that

they're going to win? That I had none, and my lack of faith was justified as it clearly turned out. So let's say the Cowboys did kill some time but failed to scar a touch. Though I can live with that easier knowing you can, you can live with it. Everyone would be pissed right now, I would. People are pissed. No, no, but hold on, but hold on. I think there's you're assuming that by throwing the ball that that's going for a touchdown, and running would mean you're not going for

a touchdown. I think if you run the ball, you probably are still we don't know what would have happened, right You don't, You don't, But but all I'm saying is I think that I think if you would have lost trying to run the ball after by the way in that drive and really in the fourth quarter, you'd been running the ball right through them. I think if you lost the game at that point, there would be a certainly would be upset fans, But I think this

discussion would be different. The discussion would be your running game felled you at the end, it didn't do anything for the first three quarters, they got going in the fourth quarter, and then when you needed it in crunch time, it failed you. That would be the discussion. But I don't think it would be a discussion of mismanagement. And I think that's the discussion now, is that people are

saying they mismanaged that. Finally, what is the phrase? And I went back to this a lot last night, what is the phrase that Jason Garrett loves to use about his team hah, well, scratch crawl bye, say scratched. All of these things are true. He wants to put his players in the best position possible for them to succeed. He didn't do that yesterday. Whether it was his call, Scottlandhan's call, whatever, I believe. I said this. I've said this more times than I can count. The strength of

this team is their offense. They're only going to be as good as their offense and specifically their running game, which did take a while to get going, but was doing everything it wanted to by the end of that game. The strength of your team is not your defense. Against a regular team, Trevor Simeon looked great against these guys. Why are you putting them out there hoping that they can make it work against what I think is the best quarterback in the NFL right now. That's not putting

them in a position to succeed. That's putting them in a position to fail. And I get your point, and hindsight is always twenty twenty, but I would rather take my chances putting it on the strength of the team, the unit that's going to be the reason why the Cowboys are successful, rather than asking the defense to pick

up the slack. Okay, well, then if that's really true, then this is a huge problem that goes a lot deeper than this, because if your defense can't go and do it in a minute ago, Jason Garrett should not be faulted for putting given his team the lead with a minute thirteen to go, if the defense is not capable of doing it, then you've got the wrong coordinator, you've got the wrong personnel, you've got the wrong GM

or putting, you know, putting the players out there. I mean, what how many guys have to score touchdowns in the AFC to think, all right, why are we've got why do we have these players on the field if they can't stop them for a minute thirteen? That is a

valid argument. It's a completely valid argument. It's a different conversation though, because once you're inside the lines of this game and you know what you're dealing with, well, and let me let me back up to let me let me just to clarify here, they don't need a different GM. They got a GM. Let's let's make sure we say that the right way. But the decisions that they you know, we can talk about that later on because you know, look, at the inactive yesterday, and you can realize that they

they've made some pretty bad decisions back in March. But we'll talk about that at another time. But I just think that one of those details. Yeah, you've you've got I mean, I'm with you on second down. I mean, I don't I don't like to throw. I didn't I didn't like the throw. Then I didn't like it. I mean, I saw it all stems back to that, though. I'm I'm not criticizing dak for not going down on the

obvious touchdown right and joy that whole drive. You can say what you want about whatever went wrong, but there was only one play, in my opinion, that was a problem. That was a decision to throw the ball, and that decision I think changed the complexion of that game because it would have taken some time off the clock. It would have probably taken their last time out, and that changes what Aaron Rodgers would have been able to do.

It's quite possible Aaron Rodgers still could have driven the field one hundred or down because that's Aaron Rodgers, or kicked the field right. But the fact of the matter is you had to give your your I agree with you Dave. They had to give their team the best chance to win, and giving them the best chance to win mint taking it as taking that clock as far down as they possibly could. And to me, that's about

not throwing that pass on second and one. It's it's grading, it's graading on a curve, playing and simple and ideally, Yeah, your defense should be able to stop Aaron. You hope, so you would hope your defense with a minute and fourteen can do the job. But I knew that they couldn't. And I would argue seventy five percent of the people in the building saw that coming. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to think, oh, man, one, fourteen and a

time out, Aaron Rodgers, that's trouble. Who's that twelve? Yeah, who's that number twelve? Guy? He's pretty good. It's pretty good. So if I am just a you know, a slappy who stopped playing football in grade school, and I can figure that out, I'm I just it wasn't good enough. It was really good, and that's the unfair thing. It was really good, but it wasn't good enough from a play calling or an offensive standpoint, whatever you want to say.

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WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. Nicks just decided he's gonna sit out headphones having some got a headphone malfunction. All right, we're talking about the cowboys lost yesterday. They lose thirty five to thirty one to the Green Bay Panel got it there. Now they are now two and three, sitting in a third place in the division, the only team that they're better than right now from from one lost record of the OD five New York Giants. We'll

talk about all that tomorrow. Right now, we're dissecting this game and uh and everything that went wrong for the Cowboys yesterday too. Again, what TiO going to the Giants? I don't know. They got some issues. We're gonna talk about that tomorrow. But but the Cowboys have issues of their owns. Let's talk about the offense though, And I do think Dave, going back to what we were talking about in that first segment, I think Umber kind of started it off. I do think there were some positive things.

And you mentioned Dak Prescott. He was twenty five or thirty six yesterday, sixty nine percent completion percentage, which is much closer to what we saw him do last year. Two hundred and fifty one yards, three touchdowns, one pick, But that one pick I don't think was his fault. He could put the ball where he needed to put it. One hundred and five quarterback rating all in all, I think it was a really good day for him, and but for that last drive by Aaron Rodgers, today Dak

Prescott would be the talk of the town. Everybody would be saying how great of a game he played, But because it wasn't enough for a win, the talk of the town is Aaron Rodgers. He played like an absolute beast man. Jerry Jones actually said after the game he thought it might have been his best game of his career. And there's certainly a few that you could point to and argue, but like, it's certainly up there. You were

being nice. That was not his fault at all. That was Yeah, that was a bad play by Terrence Williams. That is not on Dak Prescott. He evaded pressure. He did. He did some more magician stuff. Whether it was rod Smith, whether it was Bryce Butler. He got, as Amber said, he got Beasley and Witten involved after a couple of weeks where they were struggling to be part of the offense.

He found he freaking. He found Keith Smith on a third and one just he was lights out, And uh, you know it's a testament to it's on the NFL's unfair. You can play that great and not get the win. Yeah, I mean, if the defense could make one play out there and get off the field and win the game, he's your best quarterback of the day. I mean, that's what I was thinking with one thirteen to go. But then I was like, well, you know, they could all change here if he go drives down and scores. But

I mean he was. I mean not not that Rogers was playing poorly before that, just he would have outplayed him. But it's actually it's and Green Bay ran the ball way better than I ever would have thought that would That was atrocious, But rookie's pretty good. Well yeah, they made him look good. Baron Jones um Rogers through for what like two twenty or something like that, Like it's he was not a typical Rogers day, but as soon

as he needed to he twenty one. Yeah, that means he was sitting at like what one sixty one he won seventy five he did not. It was not a big throwing day for him, but every time he needed it, it it was just like and three touchdowns. So I mean when it when it counted, he making the throws that need to be made, you know, yep, But I

I mean, yeah, the running game. The running game took some time to get going, but I mean, and you know, I think the second the first and second quarter against the Rams was kind of like, well, this is what the Dallas offense is supposed to be that, even though it ended forty seconds too soon, that fourth quarter drive was what you want the Cowboys to be. Shorten the game, methodical, not really looking for big plays. You're just finding the open man, moving the chains, gashing him with the run.

It's it's impressive to watch when it's clicking. Yep. Let's talk about and one other thing I will point out that I liked about his game, and really the game he's had the last couple of weeks. He's starting to find good opportunities to run. Yesterday had four rushes for thirty seven yards and the touchdown there for the go ahead.

And it's I think when he is when he's using his legs, and we've talked about this the last several weeks, when he's using his legs, and that doesn't mean running regularly, it means finding those moments in the game when the team needs it and when defenses have basically left the field wide open for him to be able to make a play. Using his legs in those moments makes a big difference for this team. We saw the same thing

on the reverse side yesterday for Rogers. Rogers only ran four times for thirty two yards, but they were thirty two major yards for them. And that's where I think quarterbacks can add something to their team, is just knowing that right moment to use their legs and letting that help their team move the ball. Not to mention, I think the play action and the boot, you know, that worked about as well as it has all year for him.

Yesterday he found witting on a couple of those where you know, the action before the play gets the tight end or the receiver moving in space before the play even really gets going, and just looked like he had more time on those throws than he has for most of the season. Let's talk about Ezekiel Elliott yesterday on

the first here was the interesting part. In the first three quarters of the game, he had sixteen carries for thirty one yards, had an average of one point nine yards per Carrie Nick, I remember I told you, like right when we were in the fourth quarter, I told you, did you realize these stats? And we both were amazed because it didn't seem like his average was that low. I know he hadn't broken the big one, but it

didn't seem like his average was that low. And then I think it was a play or two after that, here's the twenty five yard and that's when they got the running game going. In the fourth quarter, he had thirteen carries for eighty five yards. That's one quarter of work eighty five yards six point five average, which you think is more likely to be what we're seeing in

the future. Do you accept the fact that in the fourth quarter they finally found it and now you expect that to continue, or do you think that what you saw the first three quarters indicates the Cowboys are still having some significant issues when it comes to being able to sustain the running game. Well, I think it's a little bit of both. First of all, you've got to stay in the game and long enough so you could

run the ball in the fourth quarter. And so typically if you've got thirty nine yards going into the fourth quarter, you're not going to be in a position where you can keep running it. But that's just kind of the way the game unfolded. And I think it was just a case of them leaning on him, leaning on him. I don't think they figured it out as much as it is they they they just kind of kept kept it going, kept the grind, and he was able to

really turn out some some tough yards. I mean, it was some really tough running, um you know, and it's unfortunate that they lost it, but it had they won the game. You know, first of all, Skycam would get a game ball and and Corey Miller running the board up there it gets you know, and the fact that he was able to throw it out there, I mean

that that was a really great play. And also it's it's one thing to do it on the goal line because once you put it in a touchdown, but to do it on fourth and in inches like that, you could get the first down and it gets knocked down, right and it gets down, Yeah, it gets knocked out. So you got to have the armstring to do that, and the just the vision and and awareness of and I thought it was a great play that he did that.

But and he even said after the game, he's like I usually do they say, as a matter of fact, I think that may have been the only time in my career that I've ever done something like that. But he said, I had to get the first down and that was my way to get the first down. Awareness on his part. Another twenty one running back did that and he got cut for it. Yeah, and other things that was let's say, I don't know if it was

it was just that it was. I was just gotten to start and talking to If it would have been Randall, I might have gone. I might have gone the rest of my life without ever thinking about that again. But yeah, still think you do well, not not just not Joseph Randall, but Joseph Randall's like pension for sticking the ball out like that. It wasn't what you remember out of him. Not really, No, I remember a lot of other stuff. Uh, it's three time Tuesday, I mean is that Yeah, we

can talk about old Joe. Okay, I think everyone could have a story about his departments of gee. Um yeah, I agree with Nick. I mean, I'm starting to think they are what they are. Which it's it's again for the second week in a row. I'm flabbergasted that I'm not impressed by the running game because they ran for one hundred and sixty yards, but you know they have it in them to do it. And they can do it consistently at times, but I just I don't know that they can do it at will the way they

did last year. I mean, I think somebody put it out toward the beginning of the game last night that last last week or last year they were averaging five point five yards per carry on first down or something like that, and this year it's more like two and a half three. And yeah, like Nick said, they were still in the game, so they were in a position to run the ball in the fourth quarter. And that's great.

But typically if your offense is built around the run and you can't run the ball successfully for the first three quarters, that's going to spell trouble for you in a lot of games. So it's it's definitely it's not bad by any stretch of the imagination, but it still has to be a concern, I think. So transitioning to the next topic you want to talk about, Actually, I'm

just seeing the play on TV here. They showed the interception by Dak and the ball basically hitting Terrence Williams hands and bouncing off and then it's intercepted for a touchdown. What would you like to say about that? Well, I'll make the I'll make that point. The last one I was. I was thinking just now that how weird football can

be sometimes. I mean, in a game like this when when you think about, you know, one of their best, you know, offensive lineman is Travis Frederick, and two weeks in a row he's had a holding penalty done of this last one didn't really affect the outcome. They were still bit able to go. But still you're not expecting him to do those things. He's one of your best line minutes. From a technique standpoint, he gets none of the primty Jordan Lewis. He's your best cornerback on the

field right now. In my opinion, I don't care about the veteran. He is the best cornerback playing right now. He gives up the game winner. It seems a little bit unfair of that. It's also unfair the seventeen plays for eighty four yards is not enough. It's not long enough, you know, and you didn't take up enough time. It's also weird that the guy that's getting a body catcher drops a pass another one, and this one he's trying to catch with his hands. I mean, he can't do

it right. So we can talk about Terrence. I mean, yeah, that pass was a little bit behind him, but the past sometimes that's how the ball is supposed to be because if it's in front of him, then he gets helmet to the face, so it's supposed to turn his body that way, and he drops it and just plays volleyball with it. It's two weeks in a row now, and I don't know. I think he could have made it more of a play on the deep ball to

on that on that free play. Yeah, he's just it's just like just kind of waited for it to It's like, no, I want it here, I want it here for a touchdown. Okay, it doesn't always go like that stop turn, especially if you slow down and you get run into. That's a pass interference every time. But he just I don't know what it is. He's just not playing with confidence right now.

I'm not sure what's going on. He didn't talk after the game in this question on Twitter in regards to Terrence Williams, would you guys have wanted the Cowboys to not spend on money in free agency and spend it on Burry Church instead of him? Remind me of his contract because I don't remember it's a one year deal. It's not a big money no, no no, no, no, you're thinking of Bryce Butler. No Scott four seventeen point five

with nine point five guaranteed over the first two. I think what what happened there is Terrence Williams, his agent. They thought he was going to get a lot more more than this, and the Cowboys kind of thought that too. I think that they thought that just looking at the market value. The others all spring telling fans that he was probably gone. They thought it was in a range of six to seven and four for seventeen. You know, that's a little over four. So they looked at it

as a bargain. I said at the time, I would have taken Tarrell Prior's eight million one year eight million. I mean you could if you signed him a little bit more than one year, you wouldn't have been eight million. You could get Arl Prior in the five to six range. I would must jeff forget au Shan Jeffery. You know. Oh, he was on like a one year I remember it was a short term deal. Wasn't doing a lot? Not fourteen? Is it? I want to say one for ten, but I don't remember. Off the top of my head, one

for nine to five days. Do you think that? Do you think that was a bad decision, even though even though the number ended up being much smaller than most people thought it was going to be. For Terrence william do you think it was a decision? I mean, I you think it was a bad decision to resign him for that much money? Yeah. What I and I've said this thousand times, what I don't like about Terrence Williams

is the combination with him and Deaz. I mean, I think Terrence can be a good receiver for other teams other with with another number one a little bit more dynamic. I think pairing him up with a guy like Antonio Brown, Odell Beckham, that type of guy. I like him there. But him and Daz, you know, I feel like you're missing a lot of speed, and so I don't like those two combination. For that reason, I probably wouldn't have

done it. But I will say, to the point of the question, Barry Church signed a deal big enough in Jacksonville that I don't know that not signing Terrence would have would have given you the funds to keep him for whatever that's worth. Yeah, I said all along that I would have been perfectly fine, amicably parting ways with him and addressing that position in the draft. They didn't.

And the thing. The other thing is you don't have to keep him through the four years of his deal, but the way it's structured probably means he's here through twenty eighteen. So that's a that's a bed that they made, at least in the short term, for better or for worse. Yeah, And it's tough because you got Bryce who I mean, he's kind of he's a similar kind of player. He can be good at times, but Bryce can have his moments when he's inconsistent. I think that's the issue with Terrence.

Terrence can be good at times, but he's not consistent enough. He has too many moments when it's like he should have made that catch and he doesn't. And and so you've got two of those guys. One of him is on a four year deal, one's on a one your deal. And you probably ought to be, like you said, Dave, you probably ought to be looking into draft to see if you can get younger at that position. Maybe Noah

Brown steps up to become that guy for them. Well, let's not you know, forget they gotta They got decisions to make at the at the big spot too. With Dez. I mean DZ is supposed to get about twelve and a half million next year, so I mean that will be talked about at the end of this season, if not before that, about what they do at receiver. I'm not saying they're gonna. I mean, you can try to restructure if you want to, but that's only making in situation worse. So I mean they'll they'll have a lot

of decisions to make it receiver. And like Dave said, I don't know if Terrence Williams really will be one of them this year. I will say that, you know, I think people on Twitter argue for for Bryce to cut into Terrence's reps, you know, I mean, maybe give him a bump. I'd still be surprised to see if that happens. You know. Garrett's more of the positive reinforcement type of guy. He'll tell you that Terrence does a lot of stuff off the ball, like block and all

those good types of things. They're big fan block. I just remember the long run by Zeke. That's that's definitely it's definitely not lip service like he does. Bring those elements to the game. But I mean he's he's good for a bone headed mistake like that about once per game,

or well maybe once every other game. I mean it happens with some regularity to the point where you know, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna try as hard as I might have at one point to defend him to fans, because the you know, your resume is laid out for you right there. I was, you know, I was thinking about that last night, like even going back to like his rookie year. I remember in San Diego, I think he tried to stretch to turn a play into a

touchdown and it fumbled. It. Uh, the resume is lengthy at this point, but I would still be surprised, knowing this coaching staff, to see them do anything drastic. I think. I mean, you're second, third receiver. You know they're both out there, you need them both. I mean I don't I think Rice does kind of cut into terrences just reps. I mean you see him a lot in two receiver routes with Dez and that he's the option out there. So I think I think it's healthy, I mean a

healthy rotation there. I don't know the Switzer was providing anything for you right at a They did receiver, They did do a couple of they did a couple of ten personnel looks with Beasley and Switzer on the field at the same time. Yesterday. Nothing really came out of it, but kind of got me and a couple of times and they had to tight end off the field. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, And that was kind of surprising me. They didn't have a running back or tight end on

the field. Was all receivers. And I hadn't seen them do that before because primarily because I didn't think that they would take eighty two off the field. But they bet it was time with that. I bet it was like, yeah, I'm a little tired, I need to come off the field. I don't think that's the case. All right, let's take

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getting twenty percent off your first order. Tommy John. Thank you, Nick, appreciate that one. All right, let's get back in. Cowboys lose yesterday Lucid the Green Bay Packers thirty five thirty one. We've talked about a lot of different topics on this game. One other thing I did want to talk about. Nolan Carroll yesterday was inactive for the game. He has been out ever since he had the concussion, but there was I think most of us agreed that he was healthy

enough to play yesterday. Now, again, this is all with the caveat. We don't know that because there could be the possibility that the team still has not gotten a clearance for him. They won't. They haven't said that one way or the other. I don't think you guys may have heard something different. So I asked. I asked Garrett what carroll situation was, and he said he practice all week. And I specifically said, so he's out of the concussion protocol and he said, well, he's practiced fully all week.

He just repeated him, So he didn't really say yes or No, did anyone ask was he cleared to play? Well? I didn't get I didn't get down there in time to talk to Garrett at all last night. Yeah, because Jerry Jones talked for a half hour or so so about what stuff? I don't think so. And like I said last night, I'm reluctant. I'm reluctant to classify somebody as healthy when a head injury is involved. But he practiced full three days in a row, so it certainly

looks like he was a healthy scratch. I mean that's the appearance. And until we hear more as far as whether he has actually been clear to play or not, we can't say that for sure. Yeah, and I guess that. But that leads back to the question, assuming that he was healthy enough to play and he was inactive, does this signal something bigger about what the Cowboys think of him,

about what the Cowboys think of their rookies? I mean at this point with Cheeto Bay, I mean, he gets another hamstring injury in that game, So it doesn't seem like they certainly can can can afford to not have Carol because they don't know what they're gonna get from Cheetah, from week to week. If Cheeto had played four quarters and with six tackles and was completely healthy, then I'd

be way more willing to entertain this conversation. I see where you're trying to take it, But what are you gonna do with Nolan Carroll if one of your rookies that you're leaning on can't stay on the field. Be clear, it's Cheetah. That's the one way, yes, because the other one's on the field all the time, and he's playing quite well balling out. I don't even like Nicks. I don't even care that he gave up the game losing a matter of fact, he broke up the play just

before that. They went right back to it, and I'm sure Rodgers like this rookie. I'm gonna I'm gonna use this rookie a little bit. If you're if you're not impressed by what Jordan Lewis has done to the point, I think you're dumb. He's playing really good football, guid Nick, Can I get the just the first four letters of Carroll? Like? Can I just have that hat? How do you come up? I want it? I don't want the last three. That's

who I want it. I don't want Brendan Carr. Yeah, I don't iron horse, that's who I mean, we we all, I think all of us agreed at the time that if you were going to keep one guy from this secondary coming into this year, that you keep I mean I I I'm actually gonna have to change my tune on that, because, if I remember correctly, I was kind of like I think I was just more with the relax on the fans going nuts on losing some of these guys, especially Brandon Carr, which is ironic because everyone

hated this guy till he leaves, you know, and so I kind of thought, well, let's you know, let's wait and see, you know, how it goes. But um, it's not gone well. And Carl cars getting interceptions and what he got two interceptions too, Yeah, unless he got one yesterday and he still plays games. I mean that's kind of what he does. So, I mean, when you think about what you've done by signing Nolan Carroll, since since you signed him, he has had a d WI. He

has played pretty bad. At training camp. He played okay against the Giants receiver core that didn't have Odell Beckham, then he played pretty bad against Denver before he got knocked out of the game, this two or three game then comes back and they feel like Ben a been wickery and Cheeto and his hamstring and issues are still better than to have him on the field. So what we're doing here hadn't been a good start as a cowboy, hasn't.

Not no, not ideal, not ideal. But there's no recourse, as you were saying, like, right now you look at this and you're like, we we can't trust that Cheeto is going to be healthy. This hamstring has been consistently a consistent problem for him. And I'm gonna sound like Brian brought us for a second, and I apologize, but I think apologize the front office wanted these rookies to push him out of a job at training camp, and

injuries kept that from happening. And like I said, I mean, we could sit here and have this big hypothetical conversation about whether no One Carroll's worth a roster spot if everybody was healthy and you could trust that you had enough cornerbacks to get through a game, But right now

you don't. And to go back to Nick's next point from a couple of weeks ago, the more of this keeps happening with Cheeto, the more I'm just like, you just give this guy some time, stop trying to stop trying to nurse it back, you know, and get him out there as quickly as possible, and just give him the time he needs to recover, because he's already behind the eight ball as it is. He missed the second

half of training camp. He's played in, He's played in five quarters of football maybe, I mean the full Giants game got hurt on the second and last play of the game, was out by midway through the second quarter of the Denver game. And I mean how many plays was he in against against the Packers, like, I think probably the second quarter. I mean, it hasn't been a lengthy rookie season for him by any stretch, yea. And I mean at this point they do it. It's clear.

I think they have three cornerbacks that are better than Nolan Carroll. So if you if you can get Cheeto back and you feel I've been Wickerrea is okay, He's a guy. It gives you some depth. Then it does create a situation where it's like, how do you fit Carroll in? I think those other three guys, those top three guys I think are clearly better than Carol. Don't sell my guy Xavier Woods short either. He looked He'll drop down a nickel back to right exactly. So you've

got options, I guess, is the point. But that does get to do they make a bad decision or did they actually did it actually play out the way that they wanted to play out. He was a bridge guy, like you said, they wanted the rookies to take push him out of a job, And it seems like, at least in the case of Jordan Lewis and Xavier Woods, they have you could I mean, you could certainly argue that you made a bad decision in the sense that a guy that you gave ten million dollars to is

is having the season that he's having. But again, I mean you go back to that, and it's like, Okay, well, they needed a body, they needed a guy with some experience whatsoever, and it's certainly not somebody that they're married to having as a key component of their defense. So

I just look at it as whatever. I you know, I didn't overreact to the signing when it happened, and I'm certainly not overreacting the fact that he's not having a good year right now because the long term plan was for the rookies to be the guys anyway, So it certainly hasn't even lived up to whatever modest expectations you could have had. But I don't think that's the end of the world. All right, Let's get to some questions.

You guys give us a call or hit us on Twitter the numbers two one four, eight seven two twenty one oh two or hit us on Twitter at Cowboys Break. Let's start with a question from Twitter. With the bye week up on us, are we going to see a change in the secondary workout some free agents? Do you guys see them? I wouldn't be surprised. No, I definitely would expect them to bring in some guys just for workouts. But that just because they have the ability to do that,

that doesn't always mean that you sign them. You just want to see who's out there out there. Sometimes it's a favor to the agent too, because once you put you know, once you put a workout out there, it goes through the whole wire. So his name goes out. They'll do that. But who Okay, no one carell We just talked about him, But like, whose job are you

trying to take away in the secondary? Again, I don't think it's a matter of taking jobs away as much as it is seeing what's out there in the event you sustain more injury Cheeto, and right now, the cornerback position has been a position where you've had a lot of injuries so far. I think you would be smart to probably do some some reconnaissance on the offensive on offensive linemen that are out there. You know your tackle

has a back problem. You know that you've had injuries with Chaz Green and probably will continue to have injuries with Chaz Green. So you know, just looking to see what's out there in the event you get into the second half of the year and you start getting some injuries at some of these positions that make it to

where you need to bring in a guy. If you had four more games at the end of the season for Cheetoh, if he got to play four games at the end, would you think that that would be enough so we would go into his second year and go, Okay, he's got some good experience under his belt. Because but are you saying so that you'll have enough to cut n Carol? Is that I'm not talking about Carol. I'm talking about trying to talking about IR. I'm trying to

fix this problem. I got this hamstring problem. But I don't really want to want to just kill his rookie season either. Um, so I think if you think a month would be plenty, yeah, I mean him down. Yeah, there's two ways to look at it. You can say, you know, let's put him on IR. That's seven games because you get the buy a week. You put him on IR, now eight weeks to return, you're gonna miss

seven games. But you're having a cornerback inactive every week anyway, So why not just be him and then if he can come back in a month or so I was gonna I don't think you need to put him on I make him inactive. Well you got I mean, they have two weeks until they need they play another game, and then you can probably carry him as an inactive for two or three weeks after that. I'd still at this point be surprised if he's on it. Yeah, I just wonder, you wonder what the what the situation is

with the hamstring. I don't even know the same hamstrings before I didn't have it. You know that, like if for anybody that doesn't know losses. It's it's hard to get information after a loss because people are to find people, people are piecing the hell out of there. I mean, you know, the Garrett press conference lasts like five minutes. Dak talked for three minutes. But but I will see if the team was out of the locker room by

the time we got in there. And we talk about the guys that usually you know they're out immediately after a loss. Sometimes we do need to at least tip the cap to those that are willing to stand up and all the time. And Jason Witten right up there with him, Jason Zeke stood there, and Zeke last week and this I in there and and take the tough questions. Zeke deserves a lot of credit because the talking point

around him is that he's young and immature. But two weeks in a row, he stood right there and answered all you know whatever. Last week he wasn't a great conversation for him, like sure, yeah, And he stood there and he answered the question yesterday after the game, after giving up that game winner, Jordan Lewis, he stood there and he took the questions after not a great game.

Jalen Smith stood there, took the question. So there are some guys in this locker room that are stand up guys that are willing to stand up and do what I think is their responsibility and talk to the fans through the media even after they've lost or even after things haven't gone their way and have a good day. Yep, I agree. All right, Let's let's get another question. Should Mary New he call up more blitz packages to help his personnel? Um, you know he did call some blitzes

and and they don't They just don't get home. I mean, it's just I don't know in a situation like this, And I kind of said that to you on the field at the end of the game, like I would have blitzed him now a back shoulder fade. I don't think a blitz really matters about that. Um, I would have done a little bit more pressure at the end of the game there, because I would have just because how much a sack is, how important it is, because he knows he can't take a sack, he's gonna hold

onto the ball just a little bit less. So I think if you if you blitzed and pressured him there. But to the question in general, Um, I don't know. I don't know if the pass rush was how much

of a problem was it. I mean they kind of got after it a little bit like him, like irving on the nose, but that was when they they usually got after him when they had a four man front, and at that in that last drive, they're primarily doing three man front, and so I I personally feel like and that that goes back to just you know, if you when you're in those kind of situations, saying we're just gonna keep everything in front of us. I think with a quarterback like that, you keep coming at and

playing your bass defense. I do, and I know a lot of people may different. I just think I'd rather go down saying I played my defense that I know can get pressure and kind of cover, rather than saying we're just gonna throw everything back and not really worry about the pass rushes. I think more often than not, I really like the three man front cloggin cover idea, because I mean, he's gonna get rid of the ball quick, he's smart. You're probably not going to pressure him into

a huge mistake or a sack. Because of again, who you're playing. If you were playing Blake Bortles by all means, but you're not so I think I'd rather just concede. I'd rather just conceive that I'm not going to get to him and have as many guys trying to rally to the ball carrier as possible. But I don't feel

super strongly about it. I mean, yeah, but I think as you saw yesterday and as you'll probably see him most games where he's where you're playing a quarterback like that, like if you give them, if they've got time, I don't care how how many guys you got there back there trying to cloth things up. They're gonna find an open receiver because he's very good at buying extra time, and its receivers are very old good when he's buying extra time to be able to find a way to

get open. It's almost as if when you're playing a quarterback of that caliber, you should do everything possible to keep the ball out of him from having the ball last. That's I think Brian's gut feeling. Like we write up a review of how we thought the game win, and Brian was like, you just knew whoever had the ball last was gonna win. I was like, well, you had a chance to have the ball last, and you passed on it. I think that's an overstatement. I don't think

they had a chance to have the ball last. They had a chance to decrease the amount of time Rogers, whatever you want to say that that's true. That is true. They did have them. But we didn't even talk about that. Amazing him. You know, that was crazy, Like it's like the place stopped before it really stopped, Like everybody just stopped, and I'm like, because the ball still wive guys, let's

keep going. I don't know. I think I don't know how the stat crew and they got thrown issues over there, but I think that it should be a turnover the Packers. And then I think Travis Frederick should have got a turnover for stripping the ball getting it back, um, and you know, and then after that that something could have

happened there when he got the ball back. But um, it's I mean, I mean, okay, it's a lot of the thing, but it but when he when he got the ball there and he kind of just started running with it, I mean maybe if he could have pitched it and then they could have they could have got it over towards the Cowboys sideline. It was entertaining. I guess, I don't know. We were down on the field. It's

a lot of give me the mic. I mean, it's a lot of fun being down there in that environment, in those types of situations, but it really hinders how well you see what's going on, you know, because you're on eye level with these guys. But it was it

was pretty wild. Yeah, I don't know if they would have played it the same way, But what if that was Bryce streaking down the middle of the field instead of Beasley, you know, if if he could have Oh yeah, but but I I thought, just looking at it, I thought that the Beasley was gonna like, if he could have caught the ball that he was, he would have scored. But I think, no, I don't think he would. He wouldn't. But I do think then they have a shot. They can take one shot at the end zone. Yeah, like

a legitimate shot. Well, I'm okay, who cares about that? That was never gonna work. But I'm glad you mentioned that because this team had the ball at midfield with timeouts and what like eighteen seconds on the clock when Dak was sacked right before halftime and they just gave up against again, knowing that Aaron Rodgers was going to get the ball coming out of the third quarter. Maybe

you can throw a ball. You have a timeout, so maybe you can throw a ball to the middle of the field and kick along field goal or may just Aaron Rodgers have scored how many touchdowns on just bs hail mary's at the end of halves? I agree with you. Just try it. You like, in my mind, was it twenty one six at that point or twenty one twelve. It's twenty one twelve, I think to twelve at halftime. So you're up nine and I'm just assuming Aaron Rodgers is going to get them points coming out of halftime.

He's just he's gonna do it. Yeah, They're gonna have thirty thousand fans in the stands, and it's so, why isn't there more urgency to go try to get points on the board? Talking about throw a hail Mary, whatever that, But I throw along pass to get in positions for fuel. I'm fine with that part. They would have quickly called a time out. I think they could have gotten a play to maybe get them into field goal range and then get a shot. I can tell you why they

don't throw a hall Mary. It's because of Troy Aikman. Troy Aitman's who are Troytman's two prominent backups in the nineties, Jason Garrett, Who else? Wade Wilson? Where are they on the staff? Yeah, they hate it. Aikman hated the hail Mary because he says it killed your stats because you got you you would get an interception for no reason out there, So he didn't like throwing it. He rarely threw it. They don't like throwing it. Wade Wilson has

said before that they don't. They don't necessarily like to throw that play. I don't care about the stats, but they'll they'll do that so stupid. It is stupid. Well, and they're not gonna say that, but I don't. But I don't think the hell Mary. I don't even care about the hell Mary with I'm agree it's not the hell Mary. You had a shot with some time out do something over the middle. Just see what happened. He

can kick a fifty. I mean you would try it for sixty yeah, right going into the half, you would definitely try. Aaron Rodgers is it's it's October, so Aaron Rodgers is Michael Myers like he's just gonna get up and just keep coming with the big kitchen knife, and you have you just a kitchen knife. Yeah, you just gotta. You have to just almost play. Is it bad that I'm thinking of the defensive tackle from the two thousands back? I actually thought of both. I thought of both. There

you go, Yeah, Ken knows Kin sendo movies. Wow, you almost have to play. You have to be afraid of putting your defense on the field when you play this guy. I don't care who you have either, and they didn't in multiple occasions. Ken, It's been fifty nine minutes we've talked about Aaron Rodgers getting the ball to go win the game. You know, it's some scary thought, and you're just now playing that like that would have been perfect, which is coming up right? Yeah, That's why I happen.

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