Cowboys Break: What Went Right Against Detroit?

Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, October first, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen, episode number If you welcome to another edition of The Break, live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star, and we're ready to talk to the Cowboys football. Cowboys get a big win yesterday. They moved to two and two with a win over the Detroit Lions twenty six, twenty four, a game that came down to the wire. Dak Prescott had a game winning drive, Brett Maher had a game

winning field goal. Everything in that game seemed to look up for the Cowboys. So we're gonna paint that rosy picture for you today. I'm sure dave some things that the Cowboys can improve on. Just it fits with the personality, right, I mean, you tend to be one that kind of brings brings realism back to moments when we kind of get a little bit ahead of ourselves, right, I want to argue with you, but yeah, you're right, all right,

good ahead. So we're gonna talk about that, and we'll talk about what went right and wrong for the Cowboys, and then we'll get into Nick's five plays that you should not overlook. And these are the plays that were otherwise not necessarily grand in and of themselves. But what happened as a result of those plays or did not happen to happen as a result of those plays, and why they were significant to the game and the outcome.

So we'll do all that throughout the show. Let's first jump right in, and as we do every Monday, I want to hear from each of you, guys, what's the storyline of this game. What's the thing do you walk away from this game thinking that you know better about this team. We'll start first with Dave. I don't think I know anything about this team that I didn't already know. My main storyline coming out of today is good or yesterday.

Good things can happen when you make a dedicated effort to put the ball in the hands of your absolute best player. Obviously, Ezekiel Elliott did whatever he wanted to on the ground. He's also as involved as he's ever been in the passing game. Another screen passed to the house to get things going, and then shocker of shockers throw to the ball, throwing the ball down the field to set up the game winning field goal. He can do those types of things. He doesn't get the chance

often enough. I was very happy to see that. And then you know, Dak Prescott played like a good quarterback. He played like the guy that we've seen him play like for what twenty five games over the course of his rookie year and part of last year. We hadn't seen it to this point, and it's encouraging because I don't think he has to do that much differently to be that guy. You know, it's one game, but it

was really encouraging to see that again. I think I said yesterday, this is that's what I expected Dallas offense to look like in the preseason. Not a you know, not this like world beating passing game, but you got enough complimentary players to make plays centered around the fact that Ezekiel Elliott is an All Pro, best in the league caliber talent. That's what it looked like amber. It

was encouraging. Okay, fine, sorry, jeez, let's all chill out for a second ever speaking now, no um Well, not to take away um seek greatness, but he was playing against one of the worst run defenses. But even then, so basically what I'm trying to say, I'm not surprised that he had the kind of success that he had. One of the things that I enjoyed like watching was Dak Prescott being able to make those throws and even though he didn't make all of them, still it's good

to see him attempt making them. And again he is able to make certain throws. But just being able to watch the confidence and just to be able to feel okay with like risking it and throwing the pass. That was exciting to see. And I want to keep seeing that. Sean Lee. They didn't have Sean Lee. They did a nice job without him. They won a game without Sean vander Esch looked like he was a good edition there. He looks like he kept telling me that throughout the game.

You were like, man, that kids playing, Yeah, but they'll they'll they'll get give him more tackles than what I'm four or five or six. Whatever they gave him, he'll give him more than that. He I thought he had a lot more than that. DeMarcus Lawrence. They didn't get any good They didn't get a lot of pass rush, but he actually did. I mean, he had three sacks and he had some big plays, but they did. I don't think they got a lot of pass rush, but it certainly looked like with him. They won a game.

Without him, their defense was if he at times, but they were able to win. We're gonna get into all those topics. I think the first one I want to start with is Ezekiel Elliott. Obviously, he was the player of the game for the Cowboys yesterday, and without his effort, I don't know that they win that game. He was the first player in the n IFL this season to

have over two hundred yards from scrimmage. He had He had a total of two hundred and forty yards total from scrimmage, first to do with the NFL this season. That's the third of his career, which ties him for the lead since twenty and sixteen of any player to have three in three total games where he's at over two hundred yards total yardage. What was the difference yesterday. Was it the offensive line? Was it just as Amber alluded to. Was it that you're playing a team that

the run defense just isn't very good. Was it that the play calling maybe helped him because they were throwing the ball down feel a little bit more yesterday? What do you think it was? It really helps z yesterday be able to have the stellar day that he did. I think ahead it was the best coaching, you know, job that we've seen so far from this team. I mean, they get killed all the time when they lose. They did a really nice job with a lot of things

during the game. Yeah, down there late in the game, they almost lost it by not giving him the ball maybe more, But I thought for the most part, they call it a good game, and you know, no one wants to hear this, but they managed the game well too. Jason Garrett, I mean he managed the game. We only talked about it on losses, but they did a nice job of doing just enough leading the clock to the point where, you know, not getting in a hurry after Zeke play. I thought the coaching staff should get a

little bit of credit for this one combination. I mean, you know, worst run defense in the league. I don't think you can look past that, which is funny because Dak had, you know, this nice day against the best past defense in the league. I think three games is not a great sample size to determine who's the best. Three games is a pretty good sample size to determine if you're the worst. You know what I mean. I mean if everybody you play can run for one sixty

to one night. And by the way, these were not premier running backs that were doing this them other than this week. It wasn't like they were facing girly Isaiah Crowell, Sony Michelle and Matt Breida in San Francisco. So yeah, absolutely, I think you absolutely, you absolutely have to look at that. Actually you gotta look at that. But having said that, I mean the commitment. I mean, he got the twenty

five carries. People were clamoring for him. But to go back to my point, you know, sixteen rushes in Seattle's not the reason why they lost. You know, if you're run, if you run for one sixty, you should be able to win in the NFL. I still believe that. I'll say it again, I'm so happy that he got involved

in the passing game. A quote from from Dak really stood out to me after the game because he's like, well, we saw, we saw Zeke matched up one on one with a linebacker and I'll take that match up every day. Well can we see it more then? Yeah? Because you can. You can create that. Yeah, like you should be able to. And that's you know again, did create that? Huh? They did create? Yea what I'm saying. But that's but truth,

Like they can create. I know. That's the thing. And we're gonna talk about five plays, but what's not on there is the play before the thirty yard is it? Thirty yard passed to Zeke the last one of the thirty eight? Yeah, that one. The play before that, Zeke lines up in the slot, does nothing, just kind of does like a two yard out, turns around nothing. There's a pass over the middle, almost intercepted. Next play, same spot,

he just runs by the guy. So that was a nice job of kind of setting that up a little bit and go all right, we're gonna put Zeke out there. He's not gonna do anything. And then he goes and they win the game. Wait, and that's awesome, which, as usual, I haven't had time to rewatch the game. I plan

on doing that. But that's these are things that you're all pro running backs should be doing on a weekly basis, and that's I don't He doesn't need to run the ball thirty times to win, but he needs to touch the ball somewhere around twenty five thirty times, receiving, running all that good stuff. He's that type of back and with the other talent in the skill positions on this offense, he has to be He needs to be this type

of engine for this team to be good. That being said, yesterday, after the game, he looked like he was beat up pretty good, and so it begs the question, as everybody expects and wants to see more of him because they feel like that's the necessary thing you have to do. Is it practical to assume that the Cowboys can give him thirty touches per game or is he gonna endo and him actually be able to make it through a season,

Because he did not look good after that game. He was he was limping pretty good, and it seemed like that was something that happened to him early in the game, so obviously didn't affect his production, but over sixteen weeks, that's a lot of pounding. It was surprising. I mean, you've never seen that with Zeke, where you know, he was coming in and out of the game, he was limping. That's not something that we're used to. But he's twenty four. I'm okay right now. I think he can handle it.

Especially he hasn't been getting that kind of workload the first three weeks either, so well, you know, and we don't need to talk about what they're gonna do after this season, but you know, there's been some talk about giving him a new contract at the end of this year. Do you want to take this three years and make it, you know, five more years on top of that, make him an eight year type player And if that happens, then that's something you need to kind of think about

on the long haul. Now, there has been some talk about getting him for five years and just see what happens after that, almost running him into the ground, which is you know, we had an argument about this on our show. I think back a training camp. I don't think you were on that. Nate was on that Nate. It was me and Nate against you, I believe, right, Yeah,

you know which way did it line up? Nick? Nick is trying to preserve him, and me and Nate were like, he's twenty five or four year old running back, let's go, let's do this. I mean, there's gotta be a combination of you know, both in the middle, but you know, to be limping like that and still run the you know down the field and make that play. That was probably his Dak's best throw though of the game, don't you think. I mean, because this isn't like hearns or

gallop that is, that's what they do. They go up and make plays that have to be right there. For if it's a running back, you kind of have to put it right there. But see, I think you have a really good backup in rod Smith that you're able to give Zeke a little bit of rest and helping out where you don't have to rely on Zeek and

put all the weight just on him. You can balance it out just enough for just perfectly to where you're giving him a bit of rest but at the same time getting a good amount of production from rod Smith. It's twenty five to six in the carries, but most teams are a lot of teams are going to do that in the more of a twenty to eleven twenty to ten range. Do you do you want that at

a rod Smith and Zeke? Because I wis fans would say no. I will say this though, if if I'm getting though, if I'm getting a few more touches for Zeke in the passing game, I'm okay with that because I feel like right now they're underutilizing him in the passing game. So if they give him a few more touches that happen in the passing game and they take a few of those carries that he would normally have

and give them a rod Smith, I'm all good. I agree, And you would like to think he will likely take less of a pounding as a receiver as a runner, which yeah, I mean, this is an awesome start. And you can't expect them to have eighty eight in a touchdown in the passing game every week, but four to six receptions for forty to sixty yards per week is and can be doable. Like that's every other elite running back in the league does that, um, And so I hope that this is a trend that continues. You know.

I he had a lot of different stats, a lot of milestone yesterday. Like you said, first one to get two hundred yards in a game. But you know, I thought, in Cowboy's history, one hundred and fifty yards, that's a that's a really good day. It's not like unbelievable. It's a good day. One hundred and fifty yards, seventy five receiving, one hundred and fifty rushing, seventy five receiving, and it's never been it's never been done before. I thought that really. Yeah, yeah,

I thought that was a good one. Herschel Walker and even Emmett, you know, to have a few screens and stuff like that door set, you know, but for one fifty you're doing your job as a runner. But then also Emmy had eighty eight. It's amazing, So I thought that was a stat that was pretty interesting. Yeah, it's

absolutely phenomenal. And that's I mean, as many crazy days as he's had, it says a lot that he's never done something like that, But I look, but also just talks about how much they haven't utilized him in the passing game, which they should. And I don't mean this as disrespect because honestly, I thought there were so many unsung heroes in the passing game. I'm I want to write something about given the small sample size of opportunities that he's had, I think the world of the small

role that Alan Hearns is playing right now. Like it seems like every catch he makes is contested and it converts a first down. It doesn't look I mean, he's got eighty one receiving yards on the season. It's not like he's heading for the Pro Bowl. But point being, with these types of players in the passing game, I think you need that. And that's what we've talked about this whole time is Zeke needs to be playing like this for this offense to function, which that probably says

something else about you know when you do well. We knew that, no, exactly, That's how he was built. It was built like that. Yes, right, yes, you have something now. I was just gonna say, I looked it up from the Cowboys sister, and you should look up NFL and just see where that would have been. You know, I'm sure it's happened. I'm assuming Marshall Falk has done Probably that was a regular stat line. LT's probably done that. Yeah, yeah,

that's true. All right, Um, let's talk a little bit about a Dak Prescott and just by the by the way, a little side note for you guys that are in the Dallas area this afternoon, Dak will actually be out here at the Star and available for fans to come out, take pictures, get autographs. He's going to be promoting his new Dak collections, which all the proceeds will go to the Faith Finished Fight Foundation that he has in support

of breast cancer awareness. So he'll be out here from four to five thirty this afternoon if you're in the area and want to come by. But talking about how he played yesterday, he was seventeen of twenty seven, sixty three percent completion rate, two hundred and fifty five yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions, quarterback rating of one hundred and eighteen point six, And I thought, really the highlight of his day in my opinion, was the three downfield throws

he had. And the reason why was not so much because obviously one of me connected on that was a that was a really big play for them in the game to gallop and obviously the game the play to probably win the game to Zeke downfield. But I was just as impressed with a throw he threw Tavon in the end zone because all three of those throws not only their downfield, but they were throws that were right on the money. Even to throw the Tavon Tavon probably should have caught that, it would have been a bit

of a tough catch. But he put all those throws right where they needed to be, right on the money, And to me, that was that started to change my opinion a little bit on what I started to think about Dak from the standpoint of his ability to really be able to be accurate down feel how do you guys feel about his performance and about the ability to get the ball downfield yesterday? I don't think the question has ever been can he do it? I think it's more how constant can he be with it? And we've

seen this before. I'm not surprised to see these kinds of throws from him because I've seen that happen. The point is how constant can you be? How much longer can you keep doing this for? And to me yesterday, I'm excited And I was getting a lot of fans on Twitter last night just talking so much crap still like there's always someone wanting to talk crap of all everything, But quit talking crap, enjoy this win. Dad, did good. He made throws. The receivers have some fall and not

catching the ball like the table On one. But that was perfect. That basically landed almost in table On sentence. I don't know if it was perfect, but it's it looked perfect. It needs it's well and that. I mean, it's in tight coverage. It's dac it's it's not Aaron Rodgers. That's not I mean, he's not gonna just drop it in a bucket from forty yards out there. I mean, that's not the right receiver to be running that past in my opinion, because he's too little the ball by

the time the ball gets down to him. Anybody's go up and get that ball. I mean you're five eight, so by the time it comes down into your hands. Yeah, all pro cornerback like Darius Slay is gonna knock it out like that. To me, that's not the right play. Great pass, but that's a very low percentage pack. I'd rather throw the ball up to. Rico didn't really knock it out. I mean he put his hand in there. Put his hand, I mean he got in between the player and the ball. He did, and he got it.

Also one hundred and seventy five pound player, you know who I mean, just that's not Tavon. Austin's thing is to go deep and make that type of contest, to play his plays open field and stuff like that. Good good throw, you know where it needed to be. But that they thought they could still win on sleigh and he did a nice job of getting back in there. I think the encouraging thing for me and also baffling is we didn't see Dak do a single thing that

he's never done before. You know, he took what he threw. The ball to Zeke that set up the game winner might be the best throw of his career. It's certainly, it's certainly in the conversation. But the ball to Tavon was I mean, it was where it needed to be. It was a good throw. It wasn't like this just unbelievable dime. Same thing goes for the gallot ball, like he can be accurate on those throws. He's gallot ball. You didn't think that was a perfect throw. I mean

he put it right where he had to get it. It It was a good throw. Like it's not leading Sports Center, That's all I'm trying. It was a good throw. I think to me, maybe calling it perfect comes from the fact that we don't see many of this which throws happening from Dak that Aaron Rodgers perfect, And of course not that goes back perfect. That goes back to my point.

Like Dak's you know, he's got to take three or four of these per game, and you need him to hit on probably half of him, and he did yesterday. But did you okay the Zeke throw, but the gallop throw? Was it something you've never seen him do before? Not necessarily, but like Amber said, I don't think I've done it seen with consistency after these last ten, eleven, twelve games. That's that's the thing that yesterday I felt like for all three of those downfield throws, to me, he placed

the ball right where he needed to place it. Now, again, some of them aren't going to always those those are hard passes to complete, but especially when the receivers and in all three of those instances, except for maybe the Zeke one, they were they didn't have a lot of separation. I mean, it had to be right on point. And that's why I love the gallop throw because although you say it wasn't like this miraculous throw. It was right where it had to be and the defender was only

a step behind him. So if it was not placed right in the perfect position, I don't know that he can come up with that catch. I thought his two best plays though, were an incomplete pass in a nine

yard throw to Beasley. You know, I thought those that passed to Beasley and it's one of those five plays that we talked about, but it's that was a great play for by him because he had the patience to wait for Beasley to get open and then he had to just revert into some maybe some old baseball playing days and just sidearm that thing in there like that. I thought that was a great throw. That's the kind of stuff this, these these deep balls. This is what

we see in Patton Go. That's kind of what they do. Get the ball, throw it, but when things break down, what can you do in the pocket like that? I completely sorry, go ahead and I just say that to me. The nine yard throw to Beasley to set up fourth and one, I thought that was really big. I completely I couldn't agree more. And the deep ball is in a crucial element of football. You gotta be able to hit him and more importantly, you got to take the shots.

Like they didn't throw down field once against Seattle. They didn't even try. That's worth mentioning and criticizing. But like it's four or five throws a game. I don't care about that remotely as much as I care about that setting up the fourth and one to convert. And then uh yeah, how about second and eleven where it looked like it might be going south and he finds Beasley for nineteen yards, Like having the the poise to hang in there and make those types of throw like, that's

what keeps this offense moving, not these deep shots. Again, it's important, there's a place for it, but to make those types of decisions. And then yeah, I mean, I can't believe we got almost twenty minutes into the show and we haven't talked about that throwaway. I mean, the game's over if he doesn't get that ball, and even if he just falls on it, the game's still probably over because now it's second or third and which is twenty something, which is what I think they teach you

to do. You know, it's fallowing the ball down there. We've been used to watching Tony Romo's years, so we don't assume that we assume you pick it up and you try to make a play second and three from the Dallas thirty two. Dak recovers at the nineteen. So if he just falls on the ball, you're talking about like second and third and seventh done, you have to call time out, which they're pinning there. They're pinning their years back on the third down, you're just gonna have

to throw up a prayer instead. You know, I hesitate to compare it to Romo because Romo did some crazy stuff in situation. Saint Louis is what comes to mind, But I mean the wherewithal the game's over if he doesn't play that exactly the way he did, and for him to have the poise to do it was incredible. Let's take our first break. When we come back, I

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the Detroit Lions. We've talked about the offense quite a bit. Let's move over to the defensive side of the ball and I'll start first with the quarterback Matthew Stafford. He was twenty four thirty eighty percent completion rate. That's a really really great number. Three hundred and seven yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions, one hundred and thirty one point five quarterback rating. All in all a good day. You look at his

three top wide receivers. Golden Tate had eight catches one hundred and thirty two yards, two touchdowns, Kenny Galladay had four catches for seventy four yards, and then Marvin Jones had three for fifty six. All in all, the passing game for the Lions worked yesterday. That was that was a part that really worked. And my question for you guys is what did you think of that relative to the Cowboys secondary where so far this year we haven't really seen them get carved up quite like this, but

they were having some struggles yesterday. Ben but don't break is what they try to play. They broke a few times, but you know, they the Lions made themselves, I think one dimensional. You know, they had a thirty two yard run early in the game and carry on Johnson and it looked like the Okay, it's gonna be tough. That was their first played again. Yeah, this is gonna be something. You know, Now, Stafford's gonna have some help here, and

they didn't. They didn't utilize that as much. I mean only got nine carries overall, and so I think that, you know, they were somewhat one dimensional and when they got they got down there, and that the Cowboys did a nice job of just picking their spots and getting some timely sacks. I mean, it was just it was just one of those shootouts, not like high scoring shootouts, but it was one of those games where you know, the quarterback who has the ball ass is gonna win.

And the Cowboys were probably fortunate that that touchdown came with two seventeen to go and not under the two minute warning. That's yeah, I mean we say that. That's my biggest pet peeve, like the Cowboys leave the opposing quarterback too much time. The Lions did it yesterday. I don't know. It seems ridiculous that carry On Johnson only had had nine carries, But I mean, I thought the run defense did a good job of really buckling down after I mean thirty two yards on the first play.

The next one goes for four, then negative one, then one, then three, which no, no disrespect to him. I don't know why they're trying to make la Garrett blunt a thing when they have Carrie on Johnson, like I mean, unless it's like the goal line. I like that guy a lot, but I don't know when Maybe they just when you have that match, a favorable matchup like that. I mean, they were doing whatever they wanted to through the air, so maybe they could have tried to wear

the defense down little bit more running it. But it's hard to argue against the numbers that they put up, which ironically, I thought Cheeto and Byron both played really well. Yep, and begs the question who didn't everybody else? Everybody? I think this kind of defense works against this kind of quarterback and this kind of passing game. Only when your own offense he's able to help you out. I think they can do enough to kind of stop it in

a way. Obviously they're still going to allow certain points, but it only helps you win when your office is also scoring points and helping you keep the game moving. But we'll see how long this offense can play like this, and if they keep playing better and helping out the defense, I think the team can be really good, good enough to get where we all want them to be at. So are you concerned about the defense at this point?

Or was this the result of maybe just a really good passing offense they ran into and and they didn't get I don't want to because I don't want to overstate this. It wasn't like they got destroyed. In my opinion, I thought the defense played okay. It just wasn't as good as what they've played maybe in some other games this season. But I thought they played okay. What do you guys think from a standpoint of just relatively speaking and big picture speaking about this defense, Well, I think

that they're they're pretty good. They are pretty good, and they've got some some playmakers there, especially with DeMarcus DeMarcus Lawrence. UM, we'll see. I mean, today is the first day that um, David Irvinge can come back. I'm not sure exactly what his role is going to be or if if he's even going to be on the roster this week. I believe they have a one week they do, you have a one week exemption. If they feel like he's not ready, they can wait a week and so they don't have

to make a move. They just he did have him in the building and start getting macclimated. And that's important because of what happened to Antoine Woods. He's hurt and I don't know if he'll be able to play next week. He was injury, calf injury and a big guy like that as a calf injury, that's he's ruled out of the game. It could be somewhat, you know, somewhat serious enough for he might not play. I think Jerry even

said he won't play next week. He said he doesn't know if he'll be available, doesn't know if so, well for Jerry to say that, right and to say that, to get Irving on the team, you're gonna have to cut someone. So who do you cut? And knowing that you have to not only replace Woods, you know, I got a lot of it. Does it does Woods? But it does beg the question or Terrence Williams did not play this he was not active this week, did not practice at the end of last week, and this was

not injury related. By Butler also got a grand total of no snap. No, I get it. But I'm just saying that the fact that that all came about at the end of last week and going into the game on Sunday, does that beg the question that maybe there's something afoot there? Maybe? Sure, it sounds good, an easy move, right, I'm just saying it's logical at that point. Right, Well, we've covered this extensively, haven't we am. I don't know logical. Actually,

it's not practical either. Right now, just to cut him, let's see what happens. Remember he counts about three million right now. If you cut him, he counts five. There's no reason to do that, Capri. You do unless you're gonna you're not wrong, you're not wrong. Then make a trade for who I mean, let's we can go. We can going into what we've been talking about for the last They could you know, they could flip a seventh round pick or something like that over to uh him.

We're gonna talk about that tomorrow actually, because I do want to kind of wrap this whole safety thing up. Dave show me some numbers a day that just kind of blow your mind. But we're gonna talk about that tomorrow. Let's save the whole safety conversation. Well, all right, let's say if you want to. But I mean, I was gonna say, do I have to say it because the safeties didn't look good yesterday? No, we I want to talk about our safety. That was actually gonna be the

next direction I went. But I'm talking about the other stuff. You appear to have two cornerbacks who can play on the boundary and do a good job. I'm I don't know the numbers. I know Cheeto gave up some catches. I defy you to tell me what he could have done better in most of those situations. Those are all covered well Byron Jones, you know ESPN. I'm not saying that they're the end all be all. I think we

probably know this team much better than they do. But they gave him the most improved Player in the Year in the League award through a quarter of the season Byron Yes, So I can't argue that these two corners are playing really well. I don't know about literally anybody else in the secondary. I've long been a defender of Jeff Heath. I think it is well worth pointing out that he's dealing with about four different injuries right now, but he was still on the field. I mean, if

you yesterday was not a good day. If you can get on the field, I can't completely. I mean, I get it. Everybody's fighting through injuries. I understand that, but he had I mean, he was named the starter at the start of last season, and I think that was probably his worst game in that time stretch where he was named a starter. I mean, the play on the sideline on Tait's first touchdown is on. I mean, it

sounds who's the sideline? Right? It sounds stupid, like you know, we're like, oh, I could have made that play, Like, no, you couldn't. You're not in the NFL. If a lot of people probably could have made that play, Like you just have to shove him out of bounds. Not a great day. I mean, what do you want to what do you want me to say? Amber, Like, we've been talking about these safeties since March y. It looks troubling this. I always say Rod Marinelli's defenses are so good at

not giving up chunk touchdowns. They don't do it very often. Well, that's three in two games. That's not good. That's a troubling trend. I really told you the safety doesn't really matter clearly, I mean not at all. So that's how I mean, that's how eighteen yard completions turn into forty

five yard touchdowns straight up. Well, we'll save the conversation on what they can do to try to address that till tomorrow, because I think there's there's definitely some conversation we had there about what they could have done versus what's available to them now. But let's move on. Let's talk about de Marcus Lawrence. Yesterday he had eight tackles, He led the team in tackles at least at the

initial outset, and then had three sacks. He is playing phenomenally this year again after the second year, and it's just to me, it's just amazing. Talk about DeMarcus Lawrence and what he's providing for this defensive to Well, I mean they didn't, like I said, I don't think they had a ton of pass for rush yesterday, but he did. I mean, he had an unbelievable game. I think he

didn't have a lot of help. I think Tyrone Crawford played well from the middle, but you know, we're not seeing really a lot out of Gregory Tacos okay, So for him to be able to kind of do it all by himself yesterday, I thought that was what was really big. I mean, he's I would throw Tyrone in there too. I just thought he played also too. He had a really good game hidden hidden stats, you know, when you played defensive tackle. I think he was disruptive,

But I agree with the overall point. I mean, hey, I'm guilty. I jumped on that Randy Gregory hype train super hard in the preseas season and I'm so surprised, Like I keep watching and it's like he completely disappeared. And before coming into the regular season, we were talking about him like, oh my god, this beast guy is just gonna come in here and kill every quarterback. Hey you no, we I mean we go, we go based on what we see against this team, like, well, he's

beating Tyron Smith regularly, That's that's amazing. Well, Tyron Smith has not had the best first month of his career, so it's all stuff to keep in mind. Um yeah, I mean I think Taco has been fine. Tyrone had a good game, but DeMarcus Lawrence is insane. I actually I asked Jerry Jones last night. I was like, I was like, are you starting to think about the fact at all that you're probably gonna have to talk about some pretty big numbers with him soon? And Jerry was like, well,

his number's pretty big right now. And I was like, you're right, And in the back of my in my head, I was like, it's gonna be bigger. It's gonna be bigger. It's gonna be bigger. So it's I mean, five and a half sacks, he leads the league. He's got twenty in his last twenty games. Not to get too far into that, but the good thing about that when he says that his number is really big right now it's seventeen million, it's because that's that's important, because it's sitting

there on the cap. And next year, like his cap number, it'll say they signed him to this monster. It won't be seventeen million, you know, so you have it now you're absorbing it. It'll be less than that and you'll still get a really big number. I agree, and I hope you're right. It's only week four. We'll see, but I hope, I hope they don't try to play tag with him again. No, get it, well, you saw it. You saw it happened there in with the Rams. I mean they did that how many times, like two or

three years. Yeah, and that was the best defensive player in the league. That's what I'm in the league when they I mean, whether it's fair or not, whether he's as good as a player or not. When it comes time to talk contract with the Marcus Lawrence, he's looking like he's going to have the resume to ask for Leo macmoney and it's up to the Cowboys if they want to pay that. I mean, he's done everything that you've wanted a franchise player to be. I mean, like

he signed it immediately. He's not playing around. He didn't he didn't know, he didn't make it make an issue out of it. He's still a leader. He doesn't look like he's just sitting on a one year deal. He doesn't. I mean, he's he's upset about losing. I mean, he wants to win um and I just think it's it's he's done in everything right. He's playing under he's playing well, I think that they reward him. They only only need it,

but he's deserved it. Talk about leadership, just the way he kind of pulls that hole, oh yeah, defensive line together and and creates that bond, creates that that camaraderie, creates whatever it is that makes teams work. True, Like he is really you can see you can see his leadership. You really can't. Yeah, and that you're right about that. I mean, how else would we be interviewing Daniel Ross and stuff like that. I mean, like, but they're they're

in the group. You know, they're in the club. So like he's put him in there and he's and he made sure, hey change your number here, or do this, let's be all together. I mean, he's done it. But the best part is he's going out and getting three sacks on that there we go, and that that's the first stop. But we've seen guys that have produced and not they weren't those kind of leaders like they could

produce and you could say, follow me, Marcus. I mean, DeMarcus wasn't that kind of right, was a great player, extremely great gay, He wasn't that kind of leader you right, I would even say and I don't mean this as a knock at all, but like Jason Witten and Sean Lee, they're they're tremendous leaders, they have tremendous passion, but it still feels like different, Like it's like there's a respect there,

but they're kind of older and stuffy in a way. Like, you know, like DeMarcus Lawrence is one of the guys. He's he is fun, he's one of the guys. He is you know, he's a guy that Antoine Woods, who's you know, barely made the team as an undrafted guy, Like he feels just as comfortable with him as Taco, who's a first round pick. I think it's a fun, different sort of leadership to see from what we've been

used to with guys like Witten. That's interesting that you say that, because do you think DeMarcus Lawrence really wants Taco to have like six or seven sacks? Eight sacks? Be really good? Yeah? I did too, I think so do you think it never wanted Gavin escobardt or Facano mean just keep going down the list. I mean it's a different dynamic, you know, obviously because you can only have one well, no, you can have more than one. Tight end on the field. But yeah, yeah, they do

actually love that. Yeah, yeah, it's but those are the best kind of leaders when they put themselves within the group and not a little step above you. And DeMarcus he's amazing, pure entertainment on the field off the field, and he has a kind of energy that is absolutely contagious. There's no way that you're around him and you're not better. He's yea quote, yes, oh yeah, which the quote DeMarcus Lawrence does not care if there's a camera in his

face or not. No, he doesn't. Somebody, you know, we were talking to him and somebody was like, are you keeping track? He the Lions have given up three sacks this season? He had three, so we're like, you know, are you keeping tracktoring the course of the game, Like, oh, that's two, that's three, And he's like, I don't pay attention to that. I know when I drag a person's in the dirt. Except he doesn't censor himself. He never does.

He never does. He's been rhymes with my name. Yeah, he's you know, they drafted him thirty fourth overall, he's pretty much been good from the minute they got him. He got hurt as a rookie, playoff sacks as a rookie, had eight sacks when he had Greg Hardy helped him out in his second year, played through injuries. But like so he's been good this whole time. But like it's

he is a revelation on what he has become. Like I I don't know that I ever expected him to be like a cornerstone type of player, but that's certainly what he is. And it's not even just the defensive line. I mean, he takes ownership with that defense. Yeah, last night in the locker room, latent vander Esch was over giving an interview. Of course, there was a bunch of media, so Tyrone Crawford's given him, giving him a lot of flak about the fact that there's a bunch of people

around him. And then him comes to Marcus. He runs over there and gets behind him and he's like, way to go, young fella. You know, it's just kind of that you could tell there was a certain level of respect that Leyton had for DeMarcus when he was standing there beside him, because the question actually that he just answered was about DeMarcus and how much DeMarcus helps the rest of the defense. But there's just you. I mean, you nailed it. You can tell that the rest of

that defense, how much they rest. It's not just for the cameras, because we've seen situations where it's kind of like, yeah, he's our leader, and then the cameras are off in the eyes kind of roll. Right, you've seen that before. I think it's really genuine. These guys really respect him like that, and he plays like that, and so they command He commands that respect, right. All right, So let's take our final break. Let's come back. We're gonna get into the five plays of the game that you should

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It'll like, let your mind be free. You know, it's not so probably Okay, all right, all right, let's get back into it. We gotta talk about these five plays. Nick, that's my sheet, leave it alone. Let's talk about these five plays. Let's see if Nick can remember the five plays, you can remember the score of the Texans from two thousand and two seineteen to ten. See, one of these days, we're gonna have a challenge on this show. We're going to just throw dates out at Nick, like Cowboys on

this day. Make sure they're not in the last three years because I don't know. And we'll let Nick just say the score and amazed fans. It's amazing. Go ahead, all right. So five plays. These were the five plays yesterday that you should not miss because they had a bigger impact on the game than you may have fought at the time. Let's start with the first one. Lions failed to pin Cowboys deep. Nick tell us what happened. Well, it was the first drive of the game for the

for the Lions. They got down inside the fifty, punted, looked like they got the ball down on the one yard line, and then I don't know exactly the player's name, but his toe was right there on the end touchback. How the significant is that cowboy was getting nine yards on the next dray And if and if they're conservative at the twenty, they're gonna be conservative at the one. They're gonna be punting out of that and instead of the Lions getting the next posession of the thirty, they

probably get it in midfield. That's that's a field goal at least right there, just those inches right there, So I thought that was a big one. Yep, that's a huge room, all right. Next one dlog gets to Stafford before half. They're driving right before halftime, and they you know, they weren't like the forty five yard line. They got a minute thirteen to go and a nine yard sack there just changed the whole, you know, outlook for what

the Lions were trying to do. They had an easy chance to go down and get a field goal and they needed fifteen twenty more yards. By doing that, now you wonder did the Cowboys want to be aggressive to get the ball back? It just kind of set them on their heels a little bit. I thought that was they needed a defensive stop big time there. That's one

of the interesting things here too, is DeMarcus Lawrence. It's not just sacks, it's sacks in moments and games kindly need them Like that was always one of the big Knox people would have for DeMarcus. He get these sacks and it was like, was it really changed the game? Were you really? Were you getting sacks when you needed them? M I kind of disagreed a little bit at the time because I thought there were some games where he made some of those. But I think DeMarcus Lawrence, you

see that quite a bit. When you need a sack, need a plus a guy that goes and get you one deftly. Let's talk about Dak finds Beasley near the end zone, you know, third and ten on the twelve yard line, and he's got some pressure and he's side arms to Beasley, and Beasley did a nice job too of stretching it out everything. He's got to get nine yards and get close to that. They don't kick, they kick a field goal there. For sure. It's I think

it's twenty to seventeen. I believe it's the school. No, no no, no, no, it's it's actually thirteen to ten at that point, and they're definitely gonna kick a field goal to make it

sixteen to ten if they don't get that. But fourth and one on the two different different possession for sure, Jarwin's fumble recovery actually should have been on there too, because that was a huge fumble recovery because yes, you don't get the touchdown, but if the Lions would have got it at the touchback, so that was actually a big player there, huge all right, and Lions penalty leads to field goal. It was right, it was twenty to seventeen Cowboys. It was that drive that everyone you know

hates when they got down on the goal line. But third and seven. I think, like at the forty five, I've throwed a gallop incomplete, the Lions lined off, lined up offside, Eli Harold. Now it's third and two. What are you gonna do with it? Zeke? First down, they drive. Of course they don't get the touchdown, but they still get a field goal and take some time off the clock. It would have been a different game because then if you don't get that field goal, I mean you're down

by four if the Lion score. So that one was big, and then the fifth one was we already talked about. It was just don't forget how important it was for Dak to pick up that fumble, roll out there and may keep it at third and three. I said this yesterday, but it really. I mean, football is so amazing because I mean, spend eight months talking about it and then it boils down to like sixty five snaps on a Sunday.

And if deshan Hand comes up from that play a little bit differently and sees the ball, or if it just bounces differently hitting the ground, it not I mean not only anything. Game's over. Cowboys are one in three. We're talking about how they ignored Ezekiel Elliott on the four yard line against the worst run defense in the league, which is still stupid. By the way, that's because they won through Rico and through it to Rico against I'm

not against either. I'm against it in the sense that if the guy can only come into the game in one scenario and the defense knows what's coming, is it really that useful. He played, Yeah, he played more no, no no, no, But I'm talking about specifically when you throw the fade to him, like I just see you're telegraphing it. That had some great throws. That one was not. That one was fastball that I mean, you're not going to hit the scoreboards it up there, And honestly, they got what

they wanted. They got him isolated on a smaller player. That's what they're trying to do on that play. So the fact is the play call was the right play call. The problem was they didn't connect on it. And that to me, when you don't connect on that kind of play, to me, that's about the fact that you obviously haven't done that enough. That should be muscle memory. That kind of play needs to be muscle memory to where I know when I throw it to the end zone, to

this guy, because he's bigger than the other guy. I know exactly where to place it. He knows exactly where it's gonna be. He can go up, he can secure the ball touchdown. Like to me, that's just about practicing that more because they got what they wanted out of the play. I can't go there with you, which you know, I even what I've heard people talk about it, like the end of Super Bowl forty nine. You know, the

Mike the Malcolm Butler pick. The Seahawks should have run clearly, But you can even convince me like an NFL defense that's geared up for that call is going to stop it every time. I understand it's hard, but four yard line, worst run defense in the league. Second down, second down, second Yeah, let's exactly. I refuse to believe it's not as easy as just running it three times. You will score. Even if it takes till fourth down, you will score. I'm not at all saying that I prefer to throw

it to Rico over running the ball. What I'm saying, though, is I don't think and this could have come in another point in the game. My point is that when you get in that situation, if you've get that. If you get that matchup where you can isolate Rico with a smaller guy, that's still a good play call. Now, yeah, you're right. If you're lined up there at the four the way that game was going against this rush defense, run the ball all day. I get second, run the

ball all day. But they're gonna be teams that are better running defenses where I think that played a Rico becomes a viable option if they can get to the point where it is a run in practice, not nutcutting time. To mean that second and four, that when he rolled out and threw as I called it, a mini hall Mary, I mean to swam any hill Mary gallop. They're all in. I mean, like, what why that play? That's the one

I don't like. Third and four your higher percentage. I mean, letting the guy go up there and get a rebound. That's what we should have done, Like get up there so we can get a rebound. But second and four, that one, that play was bad, And you're right, if they don't win that game, that's exactly what that's what

we're reading. That's what we would have talked about for the first half hour instead of waiting until there's ten minutes left in the show, which but again, that's it's so I mean, it's it's agonizing, but it's so much fun because literally, if Dak doesn't feel that ball the way he's supposed to, we're talking hot seat, we're talking play calling, we're talking like, oh, Dak was better, but

it still wasn't good enough. You know, the sky would hundred percent be falling on the third d or no, after the fumble recovery by Jarwin, now it's first and goal on the one yard line, two yard line. You know they actually went they took Rico out of the game, put in Cameron Fleming as a backup tackle to be, you know, your third tight end, and then they throw it to Swim for the touchdown. So you know that it's not always Rico down. There is the third tight

end that Cameron Fleming was the third tight end. Funny this is I feel like this is something you would say, but I just think it's funny, Like Jeff Swaims scored his first career touchdown, but all three of the tight ends had a shot at their first career touchdown because I thought Jarwin scored on the fumble and then obviously Rico had a chance at that fade. So just you did not like that rule. You're like, that's a dumb rule. It is a dumb it's a stupid run and get it.

I understand, like, you know, you know, I think about the Jimmy Graham play that what was that like twenty ten, yeah or twenty eleven. Yeah. I can understand the point, but like, I don't know, it's just it seems arbitry, like if it's fumbled backward then it's legal, but if it's fumbled forward then it's dead and blah blah, like that's stupid. I can just see like for instance, the Super Bowl, I don't even know if that was fourth down,

probably wasn't. I'm talking about the Rams and Titans where that guy catches a slant and he's going for the end zone and he's tackled and it's like, fumble it into the end zone. Then it's like you know what I mean, of course, why why can't you just do

that on third down? Well? Because but the thing about is if it's a if it's a Ford fumble, then that's if he's passed a line of scrimmage, that's equivalent to an illegal pass, right, Well, yeah, I mean that's my point, Like, that's that's probably why the rule is But that's what I I say, that's probably why the rule is in place, probably and yeah, because I mean it can swing it like that Saints Cowboys game is crazy. The Saints gained like forty yards on a fumble. But

but if that's third down, it's a touchdown by Jarwin. Yeah. But it's just it's weird that, you know, like you should be able to go back and review like, Okay, did he do it on purpose? No? All right? I mean if you can review a football move, why can't you review that like it's popped up in the I mean talk about how bad you know, we're talking about how Zeke last week had a really good performance, but he had the miscuse. Yeah, you know that could have

been that could have been disastrous. It could have been disastrous. One other thing I did want to hit on. We talked a little bit about Sean Lee. The linebackers though yesterday I thought played really well between Jalen Smith and Layton vander Esh. I think Jalen had seven seven tackles, Layton had six. They seem to be moving around the field really well. It didn't seem like there were a lot of ill effects from not having Sean Lee there.

But when you think about the grant the overall perspective, we don't think the defense played as well yesterday as they half Pitt played before. Do you think that maybe there is a part of that is because they didn't have Shaun Lee on the field. Yeah, absolutely, you don't have an All Pro player. I mean there's only two All pros on this defense, and Shaun Lee is one

of them. So yeah, it's not good. And you know, they went away from the run, as Nick pointed out, but they were I mean they averaged five yards per carry, so it certainly it was not an amazing effort. I Oh, like I judge linebackers just in the flow of the game by like are you active, are you near the ball? Do you look like you're flowing to it and you're not lost? And that's Jalen and Layton both looked good

from that standpoint. I'm positive there were some mistackles and some plays they'll want back, but at least not does sink like not the disaster we've seen in the past. When wasn't it It was an encouraging sign. It wasn't

perfect by any stretch of the imagination. There was a point in the game, I think it was right before halftime, a little short pass the theoretic riddick in the left flat, and he had some blockers and vander esh did a nice job of getting he kind of knife through all of them and just made the tackle for two yards. I mean, that was one that looked like he's gonna get blocked and then it's gonna be twenty thirty yards.

That was a really big tackle in the game. And that showed those instincts of Sean leelike to be able to kind of slither here and bend here and get here, and it was a very Shan Lee esque play. Well, that was a that was a big way that That's one that's like and I think I even tweeted this like if this is the you know, this is the

floor and he's gonna get better, Like this is pretty good. Yeah, And you combine that with Jalen and how he's playing, you might have yourself something that you're working with here at linebacker, which which which is I think important? Like when you start thinking about the future of this defense, if you can get those corners to continue to develop, and those two linebackers continue to develop, and by some chance you happen to go out and get a safety.

You might actually be working with something here. Derwin Derwin James. It's a pretty good defense. That's a pretty good Derwin James is lighting it up, he is. But I can't hate on the pick. Layton looks pretty damn good all things considered. Ye and you and honest, honestly, if you didn't make that pick, you might be sitting here today saying Cowboys need a linebacker bad because it may have been one of those situations where you don't have which

we knew, Yeah, we knew. At some point there's probably a good chance that Sean was going to miss a game or two or whatever. And at that point, if that would have happened, then they may not have had the results where the linebackers played really well. The linebackers could have been the problem yesterday. You also whatever day, probably wouldn't have Michael Gallup, which he's not lighting the

world on fire. But the arrow, is there any third round guard that's doing well starting as a rookie, because that's where it comes down, is like, well, because the right You're right, Gallup's not really making a big difference at receiver. I don't really know. I don't know how will Hernandez is doing for the Giants. I mean they're one in three round, right, yeah, well that's what Connor Williams is, right. But I'm trying to oh third, third round because because I know what I wanted to do

with me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fifty I got you. Yeah. But the other thing, too, is when you think about Gallop, like, to me, that pick is not a pick for this year. When you take a wide receiver in the third round, your expectation is not that he's going to come in and immediately light it for you. He's taking a couple. I don't think so for me. I think wide receivers one of the hardest positions to adapt to in the NFL.

I expect to see him contributing a lot more next year, and buy a third year, that's when I expect to see him be a guy win. With the Bronco game the fifty one forty eight October twenty thirteen, about a fifth, fifth game, fifth game or six if I remember correctly, Terrence Williams kind of had a slower start. He was the third round receiver, didn't do a lot. Actually, it's

funny to think about that. He I don't know if blew up is the right word, but he had a pretty nice day in San Diego that year, which was the fourth game, but he fumbled trying to turn a first down into a touchdown and it didn't like sink the game because they were already down by two possessions. But it was just a bone headed But it came back against Denver, and yeah, and that's kind of led

to a decent rookie year for him. So yeah, Gallup might be I'm not And I think when receivers typically have a pretty good rookie year or a good year rookie year, typically they got a great goal on the opposite side of them. He doesn't really have that here. Like, I'm not, I'm not what he's been brought in with. I'm not down on Michael Gallup at all, but I am a little um I don't even want to say disappointed.

But I thought he'd be better. I thought he'd be better quicker, but by no means closing them still, Babe, he still needs too mature. Yesterday in the locker room. I saw, yeah it look just look at his little face. It's like it was so cute and so such like a kid. And yesterday in the locker room, I was watching that. We're in a corner him and Tabon Austin. Tabon was was helping him put on a bow tie, and it was the cutest thing ever, like just on their own. And I'm like, oh my god, look at this.

Look at it. So clearly there's some some growth there that needs to be happening on and off the field, but it's gonna be there. These guys. I wish you guys are watching right there, see Nick nothing a job. These guys are. I mean, there's some of the best athletes in the world. They can do things without thinking about it that I could never do. But like every now and then you'll see something funny like that where you're like, oh, you don't know how to tie a tie? No,

you give most of them a time. Have you ever noticed go in the locker room everybody and having free tide, just like they are not taking a loose and they take it off like they're keeping it tied so they can easily put it back. And I'm like, all right, Maybe my life's not just the complete disaster I think it was. You know, I'm like I'm doing okay, right, all right, guys, appreciate you joining us. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll get into some big picture talk. Like I said,

we're definitely talking safety tomorrow. Not just safety on this team, but safety around the league and what the Cowboys maybe should have done in the off season, looking at some of the guys around the league and how they're performing. Interesting conversation with that when we come come back tomorrow. Till then for Nick even Dave Hellma Ambergarcia on Derek Eagles from This has been The Break live on Dallas

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