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twenty one, Season seventeen, episode number sixty two. Welcome to the latest edition of the break Lock Nest of NBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. And I can see by the looking guys, I'm about to throw a wrench at day. I mean it, Nick, give me a sixty two. Yeah, I wasn't ready for it, and this is not a good one. The only guy I can think of is Brian Baldinger. Brian Baldinger played for the Cowboys. Yeah anywhere sixty two, the one that does the tape break. Yeah.

I had no idea he played for the Cowboys. Yeah, oh, no questioning, No, he did in the eighties. He was like their lineman sixty two. I'm probably like played, I don't know, eighty three, eighty four, eighty five. I just I know him from the stuff he does for NFL Network, But I didn't know that he would play for the Cowboys. Yeah he did. He didn't. I can't think he's any good. No, I mean not really. I don't think he played for

that long. You're right in the middle. Five years six yeah, five years with the Cowboys with the Cowboys, Yeah, eighty this is it's not a lot of sixty. This is a this is a Marco Rivera. Yeah, good job. Yeah, Parcels was all over that signing and that didn't work out. He hurt his back and hurt his back in his first week here. It was. Yeah, it was one of the bad ones. John Fitzgerald, Yeah he was a good player. Seventies. Yeah. I just picture like older fans just like, come on,

you don't know the answer. Yeah, but like currently, oh to sixty two is the guy. I'm just like, okay, he'll be cut like sixty sixty. There he's wearing sixty. All I could think it was Braylon Jones this year. I think the Houston, Houston Guard Center. I think he's still he's still here. I think he just thinks two's on the practice squad. The water Boy, a movie you

probably never seen. Okay, yeah, he wore sixty two. No, no, but he gets poked in the eye or something, or somebody said one the other team, and he was just like sixty two and he just goes and just like annihilates him. It's good. It's a good, good movie. No, not a good better than Hoosiers and Adam Sandler movie. What you told me Hoosiers is one. I should watch Hoosiers and water Boy. No, they're not the same. It's

a different type of thing. It's like, no one in no one's gone out and bought the water Boys soundtrack. You know who's your sound I'm sure people. Nick and all of his closest friends can quote Hoosiers from beginning to end. And he spends all of his time with the only two guys who have never seen it. It's okay, it's okay. It's an older it's an older movie. It's a it's a good movie. You know, it's funny, it's

a great movie. You know, we always are like two America's why why is it quite often Dave ends up in my America then in your America? Like it's kind of interesting. I saw this on Twitter last night. I was like, there was one of those moments. I was like, Dave's in my America for some reason. Like, I mean, look, I am, I can be very painfully white. Okay, I just want to make that clear, but really funny. I grew up in New Orleans, Louisiana, so I got a little bit of both. You know, I don't know, I

don't know what to say. You okay, are you okay? You got him with this thing, like, yeah, I wasn't ready for that one. I've said this a lot, and I have another friend that's that's this way, But Dave is one of the few people that I know him. I mean, I feel like I know a lot about some things like Cowboy jerseys or Super Bowls, final four is whatever. Dave is one of those people that knows a lot about a lot, and that is very very impressive.

I'm very well rounded. Yeah, I mean, if you could probably hang in there and talk politics with you today and stuff that's going on and all that, yeah, I've had some those, right, you know. And then but then he knows you know a lot of sports stuff too, rapp movies stuff, all that kind of stuff. The key to it literally, anytime I'm curious about something, I just go down to Wikipedia wormhole. I did it last night.

I found it doing the crossword puzzle and you were cheating. Well, I also I do a lot of crosswords too, But no, like I'll just I'll hear something be like I don't know anything about that, like some I saw a video the other day about some random like castle in Scotland and I was like, I've never heard of that. Where is that? Google it. Forty minutes later, I'm into like five different articles. Don't even remember why I googled it. I'd probably do that twice a day, you know, And

that's why. Yeah, well I shouldn't tell my boss that, but I don't as long as I'm doing it at work. Depends on the day. Maybe in the off season. You know. I almost was about to say something like that's a good thing. There's not. We're not playing like this. You know, great team, great game coming up. But you know what we get. We get a lot of people on Twitter that say to us, they appreciate this, Yeah, they liked this stuff. They like talking about college football. You know

what it is? Those are the people that have that essentially live with us and what I mean by that is they are with us every day throughout the season, in the off season. They've been doing this for years, so to them, it's just like sitting around with friends having conversation and just listening to the conversation. So it

works for them. It's the people that came in for the first time and like, let me check out this thing called the Cowboys break and then they hear us talking a minute six and we haven't said anything about for you guys, we apologize, you'll get you. The one thing we've said about the Cowboys so far is that we can't think of anybody who wore sixty two. By the way, Tony Tilbert or to Tilbert or for minute,

we're coming in with some names. No, he wore it in that Darren Woodson were forty five, Jason Witten were forty nine. Type thing like Okay, we don't know if you're gonna be a good player. We're gonna you're not gonna get a nineties yet. And then you start, you start bawling out, and and real quick I gotta figure out I didn't even know what movie I haven't seen that. Everybody was like, oh my god, you gotta we gotta

figure that out. Well, you haven't seen anything that came out before like nineteen seventy five, So I've never actually seen anything. I've never seen a movie in my life that it's older than me, right ever, really, I mean, that's that's incredible to me. Like never, I haven't seen any movie the easy one. I mean, you never seen a codfather never sends a horse gets cut off in the horse's head in the bed or something like that. That's all. That's all I know. Cassablanca, like the most

famous movie ever. I don't give a damn. Yeah, I know, Hey, you know what this stuff used to buy it? I'm gonna mark that was that? Is that the right movie that's gone with the winner? Yeah, this is all the same thing for him. But it's all the same thing that stuff used to bother me. And now I'm just like, move your life, man, life's too short from you. Everybody's got their own thing. I don't care if you've seen it, if you don't care, and we can just move on

with our lives. Yeah, all right, let's talk some Cowboys football. No, here's what we're gonna do. Actually, in the second segment here today we're gonna be joined by a former co host of The Break from a long time ago when we were still young man Nick, I think, yeah, we were really young, younger, much much younger. But Deal Wall is gonna be joined us. He now is a news anchor out in Kansas City, so we'll have her join We'll talk a little bit like Billboard worthy. Yeah like no,

like like literally like come and join us today. We're talking about whatever like she does the news, like the hard news. So yeah, we'll have her join us here in the second segment, and we're going to uh, I can't take a stroll down memory lane. She'll te U a little bit about what's happening now in Kansas City as well as we prepare for our trip out there this weekend. But before we get to that, though I did want to, I had a topic I wanted to

hit it. I think we're gonna have to take a little bit more time on so I'm gonna go to my secondary topic right now because I only got a few minutes before we go to our first break. I was interested yesterday that Jordan Lewis was a topic of discussion with a lot of the coaches who talked to McCarthy talked about him, Dan quinn talked about it, and they said things like he's competitive and aggressive. They said he's excellent quickness and tackling and that's important for a

slot guy. Said he was down for any challenge, way past scrappy was the part I really loved that. They said. My question for you guys is this year we've seen you know when you think about it, Antonio, I mean, I'm sorry. Anthony Brown has been really good at the opposite corner from Treyvon Diggs. You got Jordan Lewis was playing a really nice had a really nice game this week.

It's played pretty good this season. In a year like this, where the Cowboys went all in last year in the draft with cornerbacks, how much do you think it's setting back those guys and their ability to be able to get on the field and start trying to figure this thing out. Because these guys are playing so well and the likelihood is that at least one of them, maybe

both of them won't be back next year. That's a long question, a question, and I know that's one of your pet beeves, So I mean, my first thought, honestly was like I don't care like like because the fact that these guys are playing playing well. I mean, so I don't think it matters if Kelvin Joseph's getting set back or Nashan Ryde or whatever, just because you know, these other guys are playing well and and and that's they're they're they're making plays. I think it's a lot

of it has to do with the scheme. I think the past rush has been good. It's helping these guys that they're they're seeing the ball, everything's staying in front of them, they're making plays on the ball. I think Joseph would probably you know, he's not too far from getting out there and playing. I don't think it. He is getting some playing, he's getting he's getting some you know, second round, third round picks. You want them to contribute, you don't. You don't have to be on the field

right now. If it was your first round pick. You know, if they would have drafted Horn, you know, or certain and they weren't as good as Anthony Brown or Jordan Lewis, then that would be weird kind of and you know, but I don't think it's that big of a problem right now. I'd love the question because it makes me feel smart because you can go finding the tape as soon as as soon as Horn and Certan went off the board. This is what you were signing up for.

This is the likelihood. We said it all summer. I think it's gonna be hard for these guys to beat out three veterans who've done this for a long time, who the team has already invested in. And injury played a role in that. Kelvin was unavailable for a while.

But lo and behold, that's exactly what happened. And yeah, I'm not going to go as far as to say I don't care, but the train keeps rolling, like once the season starts develop especially if I mean, if you're bad and you know you're building for the future, that matters. But trying to accomplish something here, I don't have time to worry, especially especially if it's outside of a first round pick. I mean, Tristan Hill didn't do anything his

first year. Cheeto, Cheeto, Well, he got hurt. He got hurt. Cheeto and Jordan had limited roles as rookies. Injury was part of that too, but they it took them time to get on the field on a consistent basis. Um shoot. Obviously, Jalen and Randy are unique circumstances, but again, you're never guaranteed. The further back you go in the draft, your first round pick needs to be doing something. Everything else is

dependent on the circumstances. And for that matter, I don't even know Jordan and maybe don't have to go anywhere next year. They're on affordable contracts. Abe he's got one more year left on his deal. Jordan will have two. So I have no problem with it whatsoever. And sorry, Nick, I want to ask why, why? Why do you think? Yeah, why does this? Bob? Here's the thing. What I'm what I'm concerned about it. I don't know that honestly, there

is no real answer. You're right, once you get into the season, you play the best player, you don't worry about all that. But I do wonder if it affects their decision making once you get to the offseason, because in the A so they got to make a decision on those two guys, on on Jordan and on and on Brown, and they got to make a decision. And it's one of those things where it's like, I don't know, are these guys ready to step into that role? If we decide not to sign them, or why do you

have to make a decision to make a decision? You don't I thought one, neither one of them is out of contract. No, they both have signed three They signed the same deal. Yeah, Ab signed it in twenty twenty and Jordan signed it in twenty twenty one. So how long they have left on their due? Ab will have one more year when this season is over and Jordan will have to Okay, So which now is there something to be said for you could try to cut costs and get rid of those contracts to help you sign

the Randy's and the Schultzs and the Gallops. And maybe that's the way I'm thinking about it, is like you got a lot of decisions to make and you can't

keep everybody. So is that they become capsually? But the questions you can't make that decision if the other guys aren't playing enough for you to know what you have with them, right, Yeah, I just I can't bring myself to care about this because and again, their their average salary comes out to like four and a half five million a year, which would be great if you could get cheaper, but it's also not a big enough number to keep you from accomplishing other things. So it's just

not something I'm losing a lot of sleep about. I've said this before too, and not trying to write off Kelvin or Nishan, right, I'm actually I'm pleased with what they've both been able to do given the circumstances. Right, we knew he was super raw. He has a role which he hasn't been inactive this season, which is a win in my opinion. Kelvin, he's doing more and more. He's gotten to play defense in late game stages two

weeks in a row. He's been pretty impressive on special teams, honestly for a guy that didn't do it in college. So I feel good about them. But again, you just talk about draft capital, and the reason this came up is because LSU has a cornerback coming out named Derek Stingley. I was like, if for some reason he falls to where the Cowboys pick, I would draft him. I don't care. You worry about that stuff later when you have a high for Trump. It's a curious circumstance. He hasn't. He

hasn't played a complete season since twenty nineteen. Injuries and his tape wasn't all that good in twenty twenty. Nobody on LSU pas say twenty twenty for everybody was pretty well. But so these are just the types of things you think about where it's like, man, if if a guy like Derek Stingley's for some reason still hanging around, you pull the trigger on that. You pray that he's around. And so I my point is guard between between Kelvin and Right and the two veterans. They're not married to

any of those guys really in my opinion. I mean, you don't want to give up on a top fifty pick after one year, and they're not going to. But I just this just isn't a situation that stresses me. I think there's so much that's gonna have to happen this offseason with management of this ros roster, because you got guys that you weren't even necessarily expecting to be as good as they've been, Like jay Ron, curse that that now. I saw Brian just tweeting a little earlier.

He was saying like he made this comment, he just kind of said it off the cuff, like I don't know if the Cowboys can even afford him. I wasn't thinking like that, but I am now thinking, like, I wonder what it will cost, Like I wonder if there are teams out there. I wonder I wonder if they're teams out there that are willing to say, like, man,

we'll give him a pretty decent deal. And if you're they're willing to do that, like by the Cowboys, willing to match that with everything all the other deals that they're having to pay. Just remember about curse and and there's a lot of people out there, a lot of a lot of coaches that are stubborn and arrogant that look and they think that their system is the way it is and this guy fits it and this guy doesn't, which I think is crap. And we've seen over the

years that this stuff is crap. Tyron Tyron Matthew, I think is a perfect example of that. Just just go just go get a player, you know, go get a football player, and you figure it out, don't your Your system isn't that great. You know, I can see Belichick maybe can get away everything because the system has been proven to work. But you know, the Rod Marinelli's of

the world, and that that stuff still gets me. But there's a lot of coaches that probably wouldn't think Jerron Curse fits what they're trying to do because he's a unique player and you got to play him in a in a you know, different spot and it's working. Dan Quinn saw him and said, oh yeah, yeah, I got a spot for him and it's working. I'm saying every other team would figure it out just the same. He's not just the safety. You don't just put back there

as a safety. He's a safety linebacker. You got to have a good role for him. So I'm not saying everybody would just be jumping at him. Well. I will say this though, and dan Quinn, I think was the one that was talking about yesterday, was either him or McCarthy talking about how now you're seeing a lot of defenses at a one to play that big nickel. He feels that role really nicely and and there may not be a lot of guys out there in free agency who fill that role, and if more teams are one

could do it. That makes him a very, very valuable commodity. We used to get a rundown and if I had gotten one today, I would have been able to do a lot of research on the salary cap. I didn't. I didn't know we were getting into twenty twenty two. Today we're not. But it was just something my thought. No. But I just the reason I say that is something I think we all need to keep in mind is things feel very normal right now, and they are and

wonderfully so. And I love how it feels so good to be able to go out to restaurants and we go to these sporting events and COVID's still a thing, but we're not as worried about it as we used to be. But the league is still dealing with a cap crunch, like everybody is tied up under it. They're not going to make it all back this year. The TV money doesn't start to kick in for a few years. The reason I bring all this three the reason another

year to do with it. So I don't like there's not going to be as much money to go around, and I think teams loss all team everybody, and I think everybody's going to still kind of have their belt tightened. And I'm not trying to say that the Cowboys can hang on to all their players, but I do think that's going to affect the market where you're maybe not going to see as ridiculous an amount of just cash splashing on the first two eight days of free agency.

So I'm interested to see how all that plays out. And I've got to think it gives the Cowboys a favorable chance of being able to do what they want

to do. And I also think, and this is just a theory of mine, I actually think their ability to keep Dan Quinn here another year will help them with that because I think sure for some of these players, they may look at it like, man, I was able to do things with this defense coordinator I haven't done in my whole career jay Ron Curse, and so being able to resign him to stay with that defensive coordinator

may be valuable. Like they may be willing to say, hey, you know, I think I want to stay here, and even though I might getting offered, that's a little bit more over here as far as money is concerned. I think I will play better and I like the role I have here in Dallas better. I've been thinking about this too, and I actually, again going back to me being well rounded, this is the dumb stuff I do

in my day to day life. I'm on the elliptical this morning listening to my NFL podcast sort of getting ready for the day, and then I'm just start quizzing myself on like what jobs might come open this year. I came up with like six to eight. It doesn't really matter what they are. But you think about Kellen Moore and dan Quinn. One of them is this super nova, hot name, rising star. He's gonna have his pick, like Kellen Moore doesn't have to settle for a job just

because it's an opening, you know what I mean. And then dan Quinn is on the other side, He's like, well, I've already done this. I know what it's like to be a head coach. I know how unfun the wrong situation can be. And so maybe he's not as exciting as Kellen Moore because he's technically a retread that sounds mean. But he also, I think, has a chance to be

very selective. So again people get worried about Kellen Moore and Dan Quinn and it's like, these are two guys that might be a little more discerning than your average coordinators, and so I wonder if that gives the Cowboys a better chance to hold onto both of them as well. I don't know the answers to these questions, but these are just the things I think about that just begs

the question. And we got a few seconds before we go, But I want to ask real quick, if right now, if you had to guess, which one do you think is in high would be in higher demand? Kellen Moore it will be in I think he will be in higher demand because it's all about offense. It's all about your relationship with the quarterback calling the plays. That is the everybody wants. Sean mcvayh and Kyle Shanahan, that's what

every team wants. The Cowboys have it right now, and Kellen Moore has never failed before, so I think that makes him the one that will be in higher demand. But I also think there's something to be said for the guy who's done it before, who's learned a few lessons from his last stop, all that stuff. So I think there's some coaches. I think there's some teams that might look at it the other way and think dan Quinn could be a better fit for them because he

goes like they've said, he's done it before. And also, you know, when you look at what the Cowboys have, there are some people that think, well, get a coordinator or a young coordinator. If you got a dock, you got Zeke, you got the line, you got the receivers, Yeah, you can make that work. And he's making it work. But dan Quinn came in here and just totally kind of flipped one of the worst defenses we've ever seen, so, you know, and he's got the experience as well. He's

been in his Super Bowl before. Probably should have won that game. They didn't, but I don't think it was really because of him, whatever it is. I mean, he's been there, so I you know, Cowboys are going to be lucky to get one of the two of them back. I mean the fact that dan Quinn I think that's the point right there. He has done more with less dan Kellen Moore, And for me, if I were looking at it, I'd be like, the way he flipped this defense from what it was last year to what it

is this year. And then you can't count in the fact that he got his team to a super Bowl when he was a head coach. Yeah, they didn't win it, but as Jerry said this morning, he should be a super Bowl winning head coach like that was. There's no excuse for that. Ironically, Kyle Shanahan is like a darling in the NFL, and I put it more on him than dan Quinn. Dan Quinn's the head coach exactly right. All right, we're gonna take our first break and we

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and we got a very special guest for you guys. Man. This this young lady. I feel like every time I see her, I feel like I'm proud, like a dad would be proud of his daughter because I saw from when she was just a babe in this business to where she has grown now. And we'll get into some of that, but welcome to the show, Miss deal Wall, Welcome back to you. What up guys? I'm so excited to be here. Yeah, we miss having you around here. Yeah from the dungeon, the old dungeon, the dank dungeon

we used to be in. Yeah, it's very very different. We got Jerry spent some money on us a few years ago. So it's all good now. M Hey, real quick, what do you guys? What I want you to do is I want you to just kind of first tell people what's been going on in your life, because man, from where you were when you were here to where you are now, like everything has changed, everything has changed about your life. You've got a beautiful family, but talk

about where you like what else happened these last several years. Man, I was really blessed and fortunate to work for the Dallas Cowboys for three seasons. Some of the best times in my life, some of the best friends in my life. And then when I did news in Sherman, Texas, and I moved to Tyler, Texas, and then Kansas City came calling six and a half years ago, and so I'm at KSHB. We are the NBC affiliate in Kansas City, also the home of the Chiefs, and so it's been awesome. Man,

married two kids, I'm like a full fledged grown up. Now, yeah, you are. You are. And by the way, what the one thing you didn't talk about is you're also an author, like Nick is, Like you guys are both. Yeah? Really, yes, you know. So I decided to write a book after Oh, Nick, you forgot I think I did tell us about the book. Sorry.

So the book is called The Unhappiest One, and it's all these different people, places, and experiences in my life that have taught me really meaningful lessons about happiness and fulfilled and so my journey there at what used to be the ranch was a big part of that, and you guys helped me quite a bit, I would say,

except for Nick Derek. Yes, Nick. No. So when you're when you're in Kansas City and the Cowboys are playing, especially like a Sunday night game on NBC, Like, are you like full fledged Cowboys fan wearing I mean because I think I saw a picture with you wearing chiefs, So I don't know about that. First of all, let's roll this back, Okay. I am born and raised in the state of Texas. I'm a Cowboys fan, and I think everybody in the Kansas City metro knows that I

wear Cowboys gear every game day. This is a hard week for me. Thankfully it only happens once every four seasons. But our station is the home of the Chiefs, right, so I've gotten to see what it does for a city that is really thirsting for a championship get to bring one home. And so I will never root against the Chiefs. I want them to be successful. I want them to do well because it's great for the community I love and live in now. But I'm a Cowboys

fan forever, man, So how's that going to work this week? So? Who are you gonna be rooting for? Like, he's gonna be hard? Who are you gonna root for? Yeah? This is all on camera, all right, that's okay, you don't have to see it. For the Cowboys. I'm rooting for the Cowboys. I have to first of all, listen, the Chiefs have won a championship. They've been to the Super Bowl twice in the last two years. Okay, my team needs to shine against the Chiefs. I'm just I'm rooting

really hard for the Cowboys this week. Hey, I'll say this, nobody was more frustrated with Number nine ton I remember those days and then as Katon gates. This man gets to the booth, and I love Tony Romo on the call. I think he is amazing for CBS. However, You're right, I was totally frustrated, and I definitely can tell the difference in quarter quarterback play and leadership. I just I feel like number four makes you believe you can win. I say what you will, I will still die on

that hill. Nick, All right, Hey, I'm with which, by the way, I've heard like so much about you over the years. It's surreal to actually be talking to you so high, um Dave, meeting you via zoom all these years later, which you'll be at dinner with a Saturday. Oh fantastic. I can't I can't wait. I'm I'm punk, which, so I mean you already kind of touched on this, but it's been kind of frustrating up there by recent chief standards. Obviously they kind of got back on track

on Sunday. But I'm just curious what the vibe is like. Is it all sunshine and rainbows now that they beat the Raiders or what are we stepping into here? Come on that hill? You know what it is? Winning cares all right? I think the first weeks. I mean, the fans were pissed, the team was pissed. The Chiefs just didn't look like they were having fun and they were loose out there. And so they win a good division

matchup on Sunday night. They hate the Raiders, that's a huge rivalry for them, and so I think for them it's like that confidence boost, that shot in the arm. So you think about a team that was under fire from even the fan base here in the city to now it's like, well, you know, the last time the Chiefs were six and four, the year they went to the Super Bowl and won, Like winning cares all. And I think if you're if you've watched enough football, you

know that's the secret sauce. I talked to Nick Eatman that is last week, and it was like, watch, they're gonna get hot, right when the Cowboys come to town. How this is not a Sunday night game. Yeah, I have no idea. The biggest concern for the Chiefs. I mean, yeah, but I think the biggest concern for the Chiefs at this point is going to be, well when it comes to the Cowboys. The Chiefs know how to get out there and win, and they know how to get it done.

I think they're a team that's had a championship mentality for the past two seasons. This season maybe been him in the butt a little bit. And so I think they're ready to come out and really try to run the table because they're still in fourth place and really trying to push to get to the postseason and make another Super Bowl run. Yeah. And the thing is is Fox is doing doing this game, and you know they only get a couple of chances a year to get

the Chiefs and get Patrick Mahomes. And you know, I was going to ask you, d I saw a commercial the other day that didn't have Patrick Mahomes in it. It was weird. I mean, because he's in every other one. Have you met him? And he seems like even and this might change Sunday after, you know, Cowboys had to play him, but he seems like a guy you would just want to root for it. I mean, I like him, I like watching I like everything I see from him. Is he that guy? And if you have experiences, you know,

meeting him or interviewing him. Yeah, So I think I've met Patrick Mahomes once or twice, not a ton. I cover a little bit of sports. I mostly do news now, But he's a great guy. I mean, he's done some really really impactful things in the community through his foundation, opened some great all inclusive parks in the city and underserved areas. So like you can drive now through the inner city and see kids and families out playing. Right, he's on the cereal boxes. I mean, he's just all

over the place. Donated like twenty five thousand books to kids just a couple of weeks ago. So I definitely think he's also made investments in local teams. So he's part owner of the Kansas City Royal, his fiance part owner of the Kansas City Current, which is and I mean the women's soccer professional team is bringing the first dedicated stadium for a women's soccer team in the entire country to Kansas City. And so I think he's made

a lot of smart investments in the community. I think he's really made it known that he loves this city, in this community, and he wants to stay here. Keeps no slings, stay a lot of trouble. Like, he's just like a good dude. So it is hard, it is hard not to root for him and want to see him be successful. Plus. I mean he's from Texas. Yeah, which did y'all see what's happening in Kansas City this week of all weeks. No, they're opening water Burger put

from Patrick Mahomes Like, okay, that's been his initiative. He's like, we gotta get water Burgers. Change it up. We should be going to dinner at water Burgers. I don't know, man, you see the lions. You see the lions on the drive through. He's like, no, no, no, no. It was insane. It was insane. People were lining up at five six am and they didn't been opened until eleven. Hey. Hey, Battleburger is pretty good. I mean, I get it. Nothing

is worth waiting in that line. That's true power right there. I mean, you bring water Burgers in town. So deal, let me ask you this. I don't I think sometimes good No, no, no, you go ahead, Okay, I was gonna ask you. I know, being in Dallas, it's hard sometimes to know what people are saying in other cities about the Cowboys. What's the tone of the conversation in Kansas City about Dallas this year? Oh boy, everybody loves to hate the Cowboys. That's what's so crazy. I don't

really understand that. You know, I think every team has dreamed of taking down America's team. Right. They could be mad, they could be frustrated, whatever, but I think for them, they want this to be a statement game. So I know a lot of Chiefs fans here. Again no secret that I'm a Cowboys fan, and so my mentions and d ms, the Chiefs hadn't even got to zero on Sunday night on the clock before they were like, oh,

we can't wait, We're gonna tear the Cowgirls up. And I'm like, y'all, just let them settle it on the field, like, let them go out there and play. So I think, especially when, to be honest, the Cowboys look different than I've seen them look in my adult life on all

three phases of the game. And so I think, especially knowing that the Cowboys are riding a little bit high, playing really well, and executing at a high level, the Chiefs feel like they got the ship on their shoulder, and so does their fan base now since they've come

up against a little bit of adversity this season. So now I think they're like, oh, yeah, we're gonna prove that the Cowboys aren't who you think they are, and so I think for them, they want this to be a statement game, and so I think in order for the Cowboys to win, they got a come out and set the tone early. This is going to be a game that I think, shockingly, both offenses are potent can really beat you. But I think this is going to be a game where the defense is going to turn

the tide. Okay, So with regard to the fans that are in the city, are there is that one of those cities where there are a lot of Cowboys fans and do you expect them to be at the game this week? Do you expect to be a nice number of Cowboys fans in the stands? Or this one is it was this one of those stadiums where it's gonna be all Kansas City. They don't sell their tickets. It's just gonna be a hometown game. I think they're going to be a good number of Cowboys fans. But Chief's

Kingdom as they call it, is ready. Okay. I think this is one game that everybody wants to be at. The tickets for the Cowboys game, we're almost double the price of tickets for every other opponent on the schedule from the minute that the schedule was released. That's the Cowboys of FAI. Let's call it what it is, right, So, I think a lot of people want to be in

the stands. However, I'm actually doing a story today. I will be going out to interview some prominent cowboys fans towne who does a big radio show, one who has a huge Cowboys flag in his yard. The neighbors are living, so I mean, I definitely think the contingent here is loud and proud and excited because cowboys only come to town every eight seasons, so they're trying to make the most of it. That's awesome, all right, real quick, before we end the show, do you have a good Nick

Eatman's story from the time. If you don't, it's okay. But do you have a good story of Nick Eatman from back in the day when he was a young man? Oh my gosh, okay, so funny, Nick fly original breakers, right. Me and Nick used to sit next to each other in the studio, and one I was always nervous about what he would say, what he would do. Nick's goal every single show was to throw me off my game with terrible inside jokes, not all of them appropriate sounds

about right, say exactly exactly. But I will tell you nothing made Nick happier than to get me flustered so that he could again just annihilate me on the show. And nothing's changed. Man, I feel can't through you, guys, my big brothers. I'm I'm so proud to see the growth of the show. I'm glad you let me put you on social media ten years ago. Yeah right, yeah, you were responsible for us getting a Twitter account. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, I got a Dia story. Give me, give me a

Dia story. Yeah, no, no, no, this is this isn't on, This isn't a bad one. We we were hosting together of the Jerry Jones Show one year and we had tried to do some fun bits there, you know, for a certain segment. So one year we were in training camp in in uh San, Antonio, and so we decided that we were gonna learn the the you know, the ins and out of a field goal. A field goal.

So I got to work with Matt McBriar as the holder, and Dia got to work with Pete Latticer, who was a nice nice to Dia and snapping, and I thought I got the easiest part of it, you know, because I just got the hold and just spend it and Layson's out Dan, you know easy. She actually, in about thirty minutes, learned how to snap this thing perfectly. She was snapping, I was holding. We were gonna kick a field goal for David Bieler. That was what we were

gonna do. We had the cameras out, we were gonna do it, and so I go to the camera and I'm like, we just hied the game. We're gonna do it, and David Beeler comes up and he was like, what are we doing. We're not kicking this for real. It's like, yeah, you're gonna kick it. She snaps, I hold, you kick it. He was like, no, no, no, no, I'm not doing that kind of walks off, and then McBriar was like, kickers are weird, man. They don't want anyone else to

do it. So we had to change the whole segment and we did the lsu flip over the shoulder Beeler and so we were like, we went for two. We went for two. We never actually got to do it, but Dia the snap was perfect. I thought the hold was good. We didn't get the kick and kick it but it's okay. But she learned how to snap in thirty minutes. They get old days. Oh no, actually I have to throw in. One of my favorites was when we ran the forty. I'll remember that, Yes, I do

remember that. Oh yeah, yeah, whatever against josh Ellis. Who right, we can talk about that. I mean, and we couldn't do it today. Oh we definitely could. This used to be a way more fun show. Oh yeah, me Dash Derek ran the forty together and and uh, I don't know what happened. We're an alamodome and and you know I was a little thinner back then and long legs, and I think I got Derek and then so so then Derek like, let's let's do it again. So we did it again, and I might have jumped the gun

a little bit. Got to start on that one, a second one. And I don't know what happened behind this, but I know Josh Ellis came last lying and gotta he fell on the turf and all that DA beat him with with those shoes on right, somebody didn't have shop. Yeah, I was not running. I I got rest. Thank you so much for letting me come crash the boy. Oh my gosh. We are such family and such good times. I need your predictions for the game. I won't make one.

We can't be making predictions on that predict. It's gonna be loud. Yeah, I will tell you this. Cowboys will win. I'm just trying. I'm not ready to get my score yet, but Cowboys gonna win. Definitely gonna win. I'm not there yet. I told Nick cannot. Yeah, they need to if they're trying to make a push for the Super Bowl. Hey, thank you, Thank you guys. So much fun and I can't wait to welcome you to Casey. Yeah, we'll see you on Saturday night. Thanks. All right, we're gonna say

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get yours before they sell out. Visit geek dot com, the official ticketing provider of AT and T Stadium. How do you think that would be as a Christmas gift? Like if I gave all you guys a Christmas gift that we were going to WWE, would you like that? That's a hell of a gift. Those tickets are not. She asking would that be a good gift? Hell yeah, Nick, Yeah,

I guess. I mean if you like wrestling, and like, that's why I'm asking, would you last time WrestleMania was here, I saw Shane McMahon fly off the side of a thirty foot page. It was awesome. Yeah, I'm in. I'm in. Yeah, it'd be interesting. Okay, Yeah, we'll see what we can do for me. You know, I grew up a big wrestling fan growing up. Oh me too, But but now you know, I mean it's one of those things like I've gone, I've gone to WrestleMania, and I say, I've done.

You've been to wrestle Mania. I've been wrestling. Yeah, yeah, can I go? Five years ago? So I went, So it wouldn't it wouldn't be one of those things where I would you know, I was just waiting for like, honestly, I thought like maybe whole Coogan was going to come back. I thought there was a chance he might come back, or the Rock Robby, the guy holding up to Coco b weare sign and then Coco Cocobs the chic. You know, I'm do you remember Cocob? Where's a parrot that he had?

Remember the name of it was? No, I don't what was it? I think it was Frankie Frankie? Maybe does that not ringle bell? I don't know, Cocob not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying I don't remember that. Maybe not. That just sounds right to me. How about how about Mike McCarthy, which I asked him about, walked by talking about wrestling. I asked him, you know, he said, he goes back. He said, George to the animals steel remember

that used to like eat the turnbuckle. Oh, Mike McCarthy, There no doubt in my mind he was a pro wrestling guy at one point in his life. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Pretty much everybody was at some point in their lives. Yeah, you gotta win it? How long? Right? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Okay? You know, all right, here was we're gonna do. I want to talk a little bit. And this is a topic I brought up yesterday afternoon. This is kind of stuff for you guys out there listening that we do

in our office on a regular occasion. I just was kind of like, you think Dak's gonna be you think he's a legitimate MVP League MVP candidate and he is like he gave me his answer, and I asked Day the same question. He gave me his answer. I was like, bet, that's a show topic. So here we got a segment. Here we go. I'm gonna toss it up and I'm gonna let you guys go at it a little bit. Here is Dak Prescott a legit MVP candidate? Go ahead, Yes,

he's a legit candidate. I don't think he'll win. So maybe if I don't think he'll win, then I guess I don't think think he's a legit candidate because I don't think he's going to win. I just think there's other teams, other guys that are probably by the end of the year will probably be considered more of a one dimensional. They'll lead their team. They're the only guy that they've gotten by one dimensional saying, oh, just like an Aaron Rodgers or a maybe you mean a team

that everything they do is about him? Yeah, I got yeah, that's what And I just you know, I don't think the Minnesota game helped from that standpoint, they were able to win without him. Um, you know, and he's having a great season and he is the best player on the team. I'm not saying he's not. I just feel like at the end of the year, they'll probably be other guys that have a record right up there, and they'll they don't have as much help, they won't have

as many Pro Bowlers around him. So that's why I don't think he'll probably get that. I think I think either Dak Prescott or Kyler Murray's gonna win an FL MVP this year. I mean, and that's simplistic. We're only halfway through the season. Rogers is in there, Brady's in there, but you can already see it shaping up. And we talked about this yesterday. I'm stealing this straight from m Robert Mays, who does a wonderful job with The Athletic

Football Show. When you think about the narratives, I really think that that's important. I think that's really important. Um, he's never won it before. You got Brady, who's won it. I think three times. Rogers just won it. They don't They don't like that. They want new Dak Prescott is new. Dak Prescott is also playing amazing football. He's on pace for forty yards for touchdowns. He is the engine that makes this thing go. I also think this is weird to say, along with Brady and Rogers, he is the

most like developed passer in the NFL. Like how much of what the Cowboys do is predicated on Dak seeing what the defense is offering, changing it, sliding the protection, telling CD lamb, Hey they're bringing cover zero, this is what they're gonna do. Make for the back pylon. I'm just gonna chuck this thing to space and it's gonna come down in your lap. Like he's He's incredible. He is operating at a Peyton Manning type of level, which

people aren't. There's still people that aren't ready for that. Like there's still people that think of Dak as like read option, look for your first or second read or let Zeke take Like, no, we're so far past that. I think he is one of the three four best quarterbacks in the world right now at diagnosing what a defense is trying to do. Kyler Murray is just a phenomenal athlete. I think he's developing all of that as he goes, but he's got the athleticism that lets him

make all these crazy plays. He's also missed two games to injury, by the way, Cardinals won one of those, So I'm not I'm not trying to hear that eking past Minnesota discredits what Dak has done this year, especially if he keeps this up for eight more weeks. Like I said, you factor in all of that with what the Cowboys are doing, the brand power of the Cowboys. They haven't had an NFL mv PE sin simme at Smith right nineteen ninety three. He's if it's even debatable,

he's gonna win for the near the Star. The fact that it hasn't happened in twenty can go backward, that can go the other way too. There are a lot of people out there that hate the Star. Like that goes both ways, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but it's almost like a snowball effect though, And and the writers that vote on it don't hate the Star. The fans might. But and it's it's a new face. It's a new person kind of carrying you into this new era instead of Rogers who's won it a decade ago.

And Brady who's won it eons ago as as well as recently. So I just think it's if it's even close. I think he's got a fantastic chance to win it as long as he stays healthy. Honestly, Nick, let me ask you this, what do you think or is there something that Dad can do more of that you think would turn it in his favor? Well, I mean not

in his favor right now. I mean, I guess it all comes down to how you think things are going to finish, and I feel like, you know, I think the Cowboys are going to have some This is going to kind of go up and down a little bit. This schedule that's in front of them is still going to be daunting him, in my opinion, and I think this is the time of year where a lot of those decisions are made. So it all comes down to what the Cowboys are going to do here in the

next month. You know, they got five games in front of him, four of them on the road, So you know, he's if he if they go and they go four and one in that stretch, or maybe even three and two if it's the right games, then yeah, I think he has a chance to, like Dave said kind of put himself up there. I just have this feeling and maybe because I've never seen it. I think I've seen a lot of things before, um, other than an NFC Championship game in the tie and in an MVP, you know,

for the Cowboys. I I just can't visualize that happening, and I feel like the voters won't go for that. They'll probably look at the ballot and they'll think, come back Player of the Year. Oh, that's let's put back there. That's where I think it's going to happen. Oh, he already won that, unless he gets so many votes for MVP that they're like, all right, well let's give let's give it. Let's I can't think it's somebody sure, yeah, sure,

Joe Burst. I forgot to mention Matthew Stafford. And there's something to be said for the power of LA and the league is just force feeding us LA right now between the Super Bowl being there and Stafford and then they're adding these players. Yeah, maybe it's I was thinking about that when Dio was talking, like, and I laugh. I've been in this for eight years, so I get it, and I love Cowboy Nation, But like I vividly remember what it's like to be a fan of a non

Cowboy team and how annoying that is. Um, and so maybe it's kind of a taste of our own medicine where you're like, not enough about the Rams. Oh my god, well guess what, that's what thirty other teams think about the Cowboys. So um so yeah, but Stafford Kyler and I think Dak is right there, and like, if you put him in order right now, how do you think it? I mean, I'm biased, Like, and I've watched every snap of Dak's season, Kyler, Murray's incredible, the stuff that he

can do. Um, I mean, I'd go with Dak, but I'm I'm way too biased to offer an impartial opinion. Yeah, it's it's really interesting to me when you look at what Dak was as a colle it's quarterback to what he is now as an NFL quarterback. It's been such a remarkable change, Like he is not the runner that he was in college. I would even say at this point, Dak is among the very best proficient pocket passers in

the NFL. Like the way he sits back there, and you were talking about how he sits back there, figures out what's going on with the coverage, gets the ball to the right guy and is accurate, gets the ball where it needs to be in and some really sometimes some really interesting ways he has to get the ball in there. Like I'm just so impressed with how he has kind of changed his game from what it was to what it is now, and it is so good at it. You could do a whole show on this.

But it's interesting the way the league is structured. You got to find a quarterback quick because they're cheap on their rookie contracts. So guys are playing younger than ever and it's easier not to discredit them. But it's easier to play a quarterback than it was even ten years ago. Roethlisberger's on his last legs, Brady will eventually be done at some point. Rogers is what maybe Mannings are at. Both of the Mannings have retired, Romo's retired, like Rivers retired.

All these guys they got old and aged out, and now it's young guys who are good but are still learning how to play the position. Like a lot of these offenses are still I don't want to say they're like simplified, but you're still just kind of learning as you go and kind of scheming things up for guys who aren't all the way there. I mean, even Mahomes, who everybody agrees as the best quarterback in the league. He even said, like, I'm still just learning how to

read coverages. Remember when he said that like two years ago. And so it's weird to say, but Dak is in this weird. It's not weird. It's impressive, but he is. Like I said, he's like one of the two or three most accomplished passers, not pure quarterbacks, but just in terms of knowing what defenses are doing, know how to counteract it, all that stuff. It's weird to think because he's only twenty eight, but he's right up there in terms of just understanding how to play the position. All right,

that's a rap for us. We're going to be back tomorrow. We're gonna start getting into Cowboys versus Chiefs. Well, have Bucky Brooks join us. We'll talk about the Chiefs offense versus the Cowboys defense. Still in for Nick even to Dave helm and I am Derek Eagleton. This has been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.