Cowboys Break: Week 4 Crazy Predictions

Episode number four to self seven. Welcome to another edition of The Break, Live from the s WBC More Studios at the Star, talking Cowboys football you guys, as we do every day, and we're getting you guys ready for this upcoming game. Cowboys will take on the Rams, the Los Angeles Rams, this Sunday at noon here at at

and T Stadium. And so it's our job to day to make sure you guys are ready for that game and know all you need to know going into that game and give you the predictions that you need before we get to that game. So that's everybody doing this morning, doing great, Derek, good, outstanding, good, good, wonderful, wonderful. All right, we got a lot that we're gonna get into today. We'll talk about some different things on the game. Um,

we're gonna do a little game today. If see on. No, I think Camber has that ready for us, and I think Nick, I don't know. I think you have a story for us. Yeah, I got a story. You got a good story for us. Uh, debatable on that. You know, I don't ever like you don't tell bad stories. So, well, you have a story. It's a good one. Right, I'll tell you this. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell the story backwards today. Tell that should be interesting. Yeah, it's gonna

be interesting. Ends up being hate. When someone says that I got a good idea, you're like, hold on, let's we'll see. If you see, we'll see. All right. So let's let's get into the Cowboys and the Rams. Let's start first with some injury talk. Um, Dave, you have a look like you want to say something about injuries. So tell us what's going on with the injuries with the Cowboys. It's a very specific look. It's impressive that

you know that. I know. Um, well, I think the big thing for this game as Shaun Lee, and this is one of those situations I'm just gonna try my best to predict the future. I think he's gonna be ruled questionable on today's injury report. I would imagine he'll either be limited or did not participate, And I don't think we'll know for sure what he's gonna do until

ten thirty am on Sunday. You know, I would lean toward no, but he's an all pro and this isn't a serious, serious hamstring strain, so if he feels good on Sunday, they might let him go. I mean, there's really it's just like Odell Beckham, there's really no way to know for sure until he gets out there on Sunday and decides how he feels. So that's the big thing I think. I think everybody else on this team is going to be good to go. I know Cavon

Frazier popped up as limited yesterday. I don't think that's a big deal. Same thing with Jordan Lewis. I know they kind of limited him, but I think they feel good about his hamstring. Were you not at all? And I mean this question for all you guys, but were

you all? Were you guys at all concerned that Lewis was not on the injury on Wednesday but then popped up yesterday as limited or do you just think it was one of those things they had to walk through so he wasn't limited for a walkthrough, but yited for I think that's exactly it. Yeah, I think, I mean, you have to read between the lines a little bit, but I think it's more a case of all right, this is a full practice. We're not going to ask you to do the whole thing. But I get the

feeling that they expect him to play. Okay, yes, um you're right, Nick, Cheeto, Cheeto. I don't think will be ready for this game, but I sort of went into this week thinking that, so no one Carroll, though no one Carroll will be there, he'll be available. Um, so you'll have the majority of your defensive backs I think are ready to go. Stephen Paia is another guy, But again I think that's just his life right now. I don't think, you know, I think he's probably gonna be

limited most weeks and suit up on Sunday. I think the interesting thing for for Sean Lee and this team is what happens at linebacker. Do they did work out some guys? Do they sign anyone? Because if he doesn't go, now you're down and Hitchens is not going to play obviously, but Hitchens is getting better. There's a chance for Hitchens

maybe next week, maybe maybe the week after what I'm hearing. Yeah, but you know, if Lee doesn't play, now you're down to four linebackers on the roster that they can go. Beef beef, Yeah, beef. I don't know. I talk about Keith Smith, the fullback beefy, Keith Smith coming back on defense. I'm ready for it. I'm excited. I don't know if he's actually gonna play in the game. Stakes Ober here, that is beef, right, Kent. I mean, without without Sean Lee,

without Anthony Hitchins for this game, you're definitely limited. If Sean Lee can't go, you probably start. You start justin Durant at will you start, Jalen Smith at Mike Damien Wilson is your do everything, Sam Slash back up everywhere else. Kyle Wilber does what he can do. And then seriously, Keith Smith is probably your emergence Mary, you know Glass if ever, if something happens. Yeah, So my point was, I think that Shaun Lee could probably be active to

even if he's not. Now I know that that's kind of he's not the easiest guy to probably to sit like in that situation. But but I think you might. It might be something where he could play or at least be active, dress out and see see if he can go. He can go because you don't have it's not like you're you're sitting another guy for him. Now the guy you're sitting is like a defensive end or corner or something like that. He did say, And I

think I remembered you guys saying that. Sean said in the locker room earlier this week that the hamstring is one of those things where go either it fires or it doesn't. All right. It's not like, yeah, I can kind of do it. It's it's either it's firing or it's not. And if it's not, you just can't go. Here's a guy that decided not to play and with two million dollars sitting on the table and decided not to play because he couldn't go and uh, twenty fifteen

season finale. So I mean, if he can't go, he can't go, right, not the you know, it's not like a sore ankle, like you can't shoot it up with

a painkiller and go play through it. You can't run if your hamstrings not right, so so I don't know that if if that's the case, it would be hard to consider him the emergency, even if you know he would kind of like let him dress and then if it doesn't fire, it just doesn't fire in you, right, Keith Smith really is your only recourse unless you're gonna pull somebody up, right, which mark there's nobody to pull Martin Zaches of San Francisco forty nine ers they signed.

I guess I shouldn't have said pull up. You have to go and get somebody, which you have to go and find somebody in sign it's for Brinkley. Good luck with that. Yeah, it's Friday. I think it's too late to do that and expect what they're doing. So um seriously, can't didn't bust a drop on you right there if Sean If Sean Lee can't go, I think you go.

You go really light with four and then Keith Smith is there, right, they all stay out, just say it's the RAMS, dude, MS dude, not because that's not all right. Let's let's talk about it in active. I think there are three and this is gonna sound weird, but I do think there are only three this week that I feel like there are no question marks about, and I want to get your opinions. You may think they're more, but I think there are three. Cooper Rush, Jonathan Cooper,

Anthony Hitchins. I think we feel very certain that those three will not play this week. You got a running back debate you want to have or I kind of do? Okay, And here's the question I have about the running back position. I don't really want to do this or whatever it's worth about. Go ahead. I think that there is more that they can expect or want from their backup running back.

And the reason why I say that is because you do see on a lot of teams where even when you have a really good running back, the second guy comes in and when he gets an opportunity, he is able to give you a little something, a little something more than I think what we've seen from Alfred Morris here in these first couple of games. Do you guys

agree with that premise first of all? And if so, do you think there's another running back on this team that possibly could give them a little bit more as the backup running back than what they're getting right now from Alfred Morris. It's like a trick question here. I don't know. I'm just really I'm just asking because I think it's worth a discussion. Yeah, I think that the every team should play more than one running back. I

believe that he is as great as Zeke is. I think he needs a little bit of relief now and then whoever it is, So are you Are you happy with what you're getting right now from Outfred Morris in that role. No, he hasn't done anything, so no, you can't be happy with it. They didn't even play him last week, you know, you know, I feel I think McFadden would be a better for this role and would I would rather see him in there. But I do

even if it's Morris. I mean, whoever it is, I think I don't think Zeke should get every carry, get every rep. I mean, at least get a guy in there to block and just get him off the field something. I mean, he was stronger in the fourth quarter, but I still think that he needs a little bit of a break. But I would go McFadden if they do that. I don't know if they're gonna make change this week, but I would If you're not gonna play Morris at all. I think McFadden could give you a snap or two.

I don't care about this. I mean that they clearly like Morris more than McFadden, and they didn't even play him last week. Like what am I supposed to make of that? I don't even you picked him, You specifically picked him, put him up and put McFadden down, and then didn't play him. You gave Rod Smith one one touch or one snap. I don't know. I don't know what they're doing there. I'm tempted to believe right now that that they want to keep McFadden fresh if they

need him, if something happens with Zeke's legal issues. That's really because we still really don't know, because we don't um and there's gonna be a hearing on Monday, right or he's not a hearing or a decision. I don't know, No, not a decision. There's supposed to be a hearing. There's more developments to come, and everything they're doing a backup running back doesn't make sense to me. And I'm starting to think that they want to have McFadden fresh and

healthy if they need him. Otherwise, none of this makes sense. Your backup running back is one of two guys that didn't get into that game on Monday. That doesn't make any sense to me. Having said that, Zeke's an all pro, and I don't really care as the whole thing's dumb. This is matter to you, Amber, I mean, at this point, I just really believe that it they're relatively similar to each other with what they've done. I don't think one is really much better than the other one. So I'm

good with either one. Honestly, they can do whatever there. I haven't been doing whatever they want. So if a guy that's not Ezekiel Elliott, it's gonna line up in the backfield and do running back stuff. I want to see more of Ryan Switzer back there as a shotgun guy.

I thought that was interesting. Yeah, let me ask you this question, as they start to kind of go through this and this whole thing with injuries and kind of figure out who's active who's inactive, if they get into a pinch, would there ever be the consideration on your part, like as far as you guys see it, and maybe sit down both those older guys and keep Rods Smith up because Rods, especially if they're not going to play Alfred Morris you know, Rod Smith's gonna play special teams

take that extra spot and put it on another position, so at least you have an extra guy somewhere else where you may need it, because right now they're not. They didn't at least this last game, they didn't use that position. You're just asking for it though, that that is just asking it. That's when something bad happen. Thing face and then you don't have anyone, Well, you go with two. You go with two quarterbacks, right, I mean yeah,

So that's why. And that right there is why Kellen Moore is the guy that's active and not Cooper Rush because they want the guy that's actually played in the NFL to have to go in if he has to. But worst case scenario, you lost both those running backs in the game, you still got Keith Smith that could played him in that role at times. I mean, you still got other options if you got into it like

you just had to run somebody out there. Let's be honest, if Zeke goes down, the likelihood of your offense being able to run the way it needs to no matter who those other three of those other three guys is in there, it's probably not going to be the same, right, Yes, we need to be able to run the football. See, I think if Zeke were to go down, either Morris or McFadden would be fine if he was given twenty carries. That's all that's there. Don't think Rod would would be

Oh I don't know. I mean maybe, but if you don't have Morris or McFadden active, then you're talking about giving the ball either way. Keith or Rod. Those guys have combined for like three NFL carries. Yeah, so that just gets not the experience makes me a little queasy. Okay, but all right, Um, it's one thing to have a thousand yard rusher as inactive, but to have two. They wouldn't do that. I mean, they're keeping killing Moore a backup quarterback. You think, No, they're not gonna do that.

And not even with the running back position. If they're doing that with quarterback position, which I don't even want to get into, but you know how they are, they're gonna be over protective at quarterback. They're certainly not gonna do it at running back. All right, let's let's talk about the defensive end for the translation. Yeah, you got you got two guys and there's one that will probably

be inactive. Last week it was Charles Tapper. Any chance this week it's Taco Charlton or do you think they stick with keeping Tapper as the inactive guy? Taco. I don't think they're gonna sit Taco. He's the first round pick. He needs snaps to get better. Yeah, I don't think they'll do that. Yeah. I like it, can't can't pick it. You like Taco? I like it Taco. You think Taco got the happy fingers today? Yeah? I mean I think

so he gives you. I think he's more, he's more versaally, can play a little bit more if you needed to. He has done some stuff on the inside, and this is all about the development with him. I mean, he needs to keep playing. This is your first round pick. Who's better right this second? It's probably it's probably you think it's tappering. I don't think there's probably about it. I think Tapper is a better player, right Why, He's done more, He's got an NFL sack, He's done more

stuff in the two games that he's played. He's done more than Taco. Okay, I don't think he's clearly better, but it doesn't matter who's got more upside. I mean Tacco, I would have hope it has more upside, or you wouldn't have taken them where they did. So this isn't about who's going to start, and this is about who the backup is. I think you need to get that guy ready to play, keep him out there. I completely agree with you. I just think Tapper's better right now.

But that's what happens when you draft a guy in the first try. You're gonna make him active, You're gonna give him every chance to get better. Tapper did a nice job of getting up the line that I mean, was it who was it? Eli? Yeah? I mean Eli said okay, like he wasn't gonna take a hit. I mean it wasn't like it was like the greatest play ever. But he did a nice job of getting up the field. And he's but I don't know if he's clearly better.

Maybe he is. He's just done more than Tacco right now. Okay, Okay, I gotta get what you're saying, Nick, Like, yeah, you could say he's done more, he's got one more sack, but look at when you look at the body of body of work. I don't know if I agree that he's done more. I think they're about the same. And the discussion we just had about running back, I think it probably applies here to let's agree that there's not a spiritual difference. Let's let's do some blind taste testing.

Then if they were just both dudes and one of them wasn't a first round pick, who would sit just no, Again, I think it would be based on whoever the coaches thought had the biggest like Nick was saying, whoever has the biggest potential to grow from being act and right? Whoever you think has the bigger upside between the two. Well, and you can only have so many guys active of the game. Okay, if the guy starts playing in the first quarter, who has a better chance to get hurt

and get out of the game. I mean, who has a better chance? I mean, because I know this, every defensive end that was getting hurt, it wasn't Taco. He had a little bit of a back issue, but he practiced the next week, the next day he was like he was out there the whole time. You can't say that for Tapper, And so from a reliability standpoint, I mean, I think it's the edge would be Taco. I'm I'm

not trying to arguing about backups here. I'm not trying to hate on Taco Charlton because I think he's going to be a good player. I've defended him against people who think he's a bust already time and time again. But right now, I think Tapper is a better player, and there's nothing wrong with him being active because he's

a first round pick. If he's going to live up to his potential, he needs to play and get better and on and at the end of the day, even if Tapper is better right now, it's a negligible difference to them. I mean, you know, Tapper's not von Miller, so I think that's the point. Yeah, if he has to set, that's fine, because you've spent a twenty eighth overall pick on Taco. Okay, let's move on to the

cornerback position. The assumption is that at least one of these guys will be inactive Banaban, Wickery, um A Woozier or Carol. Which of those three do you assume is going to be inactive? Cheetah, Cheetah. And that's just because he's just not ready. The hamstring is just not ready. That's the vibe I get, and even if it is

sort of ready, you've got to eat. It was out like three weeks of training camp, and then he comes back, he plays a game and a half and he gets hurt, and I mean, I don't think they want him to just rush anything back into it. So okay, um, and then that leaves you one more spot. Yeah, we're at six. So so Cooper Rush are running back, Jonathan Cooper, Anthony Hitchens, Anthony Hitchins, Alls, Tap ARLs Tapper, and then in Cheetah receiver Cheeto. I mean, I think it has to be Brown. Yeah,

I mean it probably should be. I mean, in a nice play last week. But the thing about it is is that you know he had Terrence and he had Bryce Butler banged up. Uh, there haven't. I don't believe if they have Throw on the injury report this week, they're not really They're still practicing, so I didn't see him on the injury report. I think I just think six receivers is too many. I don't think you need that many in the game. Well, what about Sean Lee?

Are we just assuming he's gonna be good? That's the other option is that? But I don't know that they're going to know that until Sunday morning. Right, Sure, So let's assume for a second. If he is the one, then obviously he's your seventh inactive Brown. If he's not, then who's your guy? Probably Noah Brown if Sean Lee can go. But I'm I'm I'm gonna be bold and say I think Sean Lee's gonna sit this week. I we'll see. I might be wrong, but okay, Michael fifty,

I mean what else would Shaun Lee be? All Right, We're gonna go first break like DeMarcus Ware. Yeah. When we come back from our break, I have a couple of questions for you guys about the matchup. We'll get to a story from Nick. We'll get to CEO no in the third segment. We appreciate you guys. Jones will be right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. We the entertainment loving people demand the best unlimited wireless plan ever from ATNT. What else do you want? Are

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retailer nearest you. Back to the brink, Welcome back. It's the second segment of the show, live at the SWVC Mortgage Studios at the Star. All right, let's talk some cowboys rams. I have some questions I'm gonna throw out to you guys. You guys can answer these as you choose. I'm gonna give you a couple options for some of them, but you feel free to throw in whatever else you think might be relevant. First question, who will be the bigger challenge? Where the cowboys this weekend? Aaron Donald or

Todd Gurley? Wait? I didn't hear you what you say? I don't know they turn you off? Are you guys hearing her? I it sounds like your mic is off. Amber. That's okay, all right, Amber, said Gurley. I'll translate for Amber, since I speak Spanish. The best out of them there, you go. Good. Not that she's speaking Spanish. I think it's gonna be Aaron Donald Donald. They do a pretty good job against most backs, I mean, and when they tackled, when they tackled, it they're final. What was going on

in Denver. They didn't tackle well. They were getting to the football for the most part. But Donald's gonna be a tough one for him. Although your best tackler and best linebacker is a threat to not play in this game perfect, I mean, that's that's tricky. But I still I think Aaron Donald is one of the five best defenders in football right now. Like he's he's on that level, I really think, and like I'm in when I previewed

their defense yesterday. He can play everywhere. So it sounds sexy to say, like Donald versus Martin, like move him over on Chaz Green. Let him let Chaz Green deal with that. And that could be really problematic. I mean, you talk about offensive line being a problem, not being able to get your running game going, that could be a big time problem. So a guy of that caliber who can get into the backfield the way he can,

has a chance to mess up your whole offense. And you know, the defense has been really, really good through three weeks, but I still think of the offense as the reason why this team is going to win games. So I'm more worried about something disrupting the offense. Yeah, I think you made a stop point there because one of the reasons that Nick you talked about it the day after the game. One of the reasons why they had such a problem in Denver was because Sean Lee

had his worst game. I don't think that was a coincidence. And so you now play without Lee. How does that affect their ability to be able to stop the run because he is such a big part of your run defense. So I think that's something to be to be concerned about a little bit, because you are talking about a really good running back here, who is every game the season's gotten a little bit better than he did the week before. I think that's something definitely gonna be concerned about.

That's not a bad point. Then the difference is too, is I mean why the pick for Girley makes sense too, is that you're combating that with maybe an injured Shaun Lee, if if him at all. Aaron Donald is going to face the best guard in football this week. I mean, I mean Aaron Donald versus Zach Martin. You've got same draft, right, I mean you've got two picks apart. I think, yeah, maybe three. I mean these guys are you know, they're

the best at what they do. Right now, they got one of the young just dominating quick off the ball defensive tackle. And I thought about something else too last night. Actually, I was watching they got DeMarcus Ware doing all kinds of stuff on I guess it was NFL Network, And uh, he said, this, this four three defense, this three four D defense is really like a four to three. He's playing it like like Wade is playing this like a four to three. It's not really like a three or four. Really,

everybody's at the line. And I was like, well, Dave said that, and then William mc ginnis comes over and says, well, you know what, Yeah, you can try to play like the Broncos did, but not everyone has the personnel for that. It's just like that. We said that too, So we're gonna be on the NFL network next week. We're smart. They just listen to what we say and then they

turn it into a segment the Rams. The Rams do not have the secondary of the Broncos or even the even they don't have one of one cornerback caliber of those cornerbacks in down that's altitude won't be the same there at the state. It's some different we do not open the roofing. No, No, WHOA why it's not cool enough. It'd be like eighty degrees. Let's go. We don't need all that all right. Here's the next question. Sammy Watkins is a full go from from the concussion protocol. Does

he change your thoughts on Dallas's chances for success? Now Here are some of his numbers from the first two weeks of the season. Week one, he had five catches fifty eight yards. Week two, he had two catches for thirty yards. Here's the big one. Last week against San Francisco, he had six catches for one hundred and six yards and two touchdowns with a forty seven yard long catch, and his average was seventeen point seven yards per catch. Does that change anything about how you feel about the

Cowboys chances for success against this team? No, and I'll tell you why. Ye. Larry Fitzgerald caught fifteen passes for one hundred and fifty six yards and a touchdown. Arizona still didn't break twenty points. I think a big part of that is because they couldn't run the ball. So I still look at Todd Gurley. If Todd Gurley is doing his thing, then it's all that doesn't matter anyway. It's gonna be rough, I think, but this team can absorb passing games like that. That's what they did against

the Cardinals like there. I mean, this isn't the Broncos. They're probably gonna give up some chunk plays. They've given up. They've given up chunk passing plays in two of the three games so far, and they did it all last year. It's a matter of not allowing it to turn into touchdowns. So Sammy Watkins will probably have some decent production in this game, if I had to guess. But if you're doing a good job against early, that doesn't bother me. I think it's I think he's done a nice job

of coming in and being productive early. Usually when you get traded like that, you know at the time that he did. It takes a long time for these guys to kind of develop into that system. But they've done a good job with him quickly. He's been a factor. So um, But I don't I don't think it'll be a big issue. I mean, you know, they they've got some weapons. I mean, I'm always scared of the little speedy guys. I think if Austin is doing some things

that could be tough. Who else did you say? Cooper Cup Cup Robert Woods is the other guy they got from Mob Buffalo who's played pretty decent for him this year. But you know this solid, This is like the Falcons game from two years ago. You know, if DeVante Freman just went off and they couldn't stop him. So if girls like that where they're having a hard time, then everyone's gonna look good. Everyone's gonna get in the mix and and make plays. But I don't think that's gonna happen.

Sean Lee. I think Shanlee's gonna play. I really do. I think he will play in this game. I saw him yesterday on the field pretty good. I just looked at it like, okay, that's Thursday. I think you'll play. I mean, all pros played by a different set of rules from everybody else. Like h Like I said, you never want to bet against him? Yeah? And were you concerned about the secondary against a guy like Sammy Watkins? No? I think WHOA that really loud? That's good? Okay, Sorry, guys,

I just sound really really loud online. Anyways, I think they'll be fine. Um, I've all my prediction. I mean My guess is that this game is gonna rely on both offenses. Cowboys offense and the Rams offense. They're both gonna be pretty good. I just think they won't be good enough to the point to beat the Cowboys. But having him how he is right now, I'm not worried

about him. Okay, all right, final question. If Dallas loses this game, the thing that will have been the biggest problem will be one couldn't stop the run, Two couldn't run themselves, or three gave up too many big plays. If they lose this game, I'm going one like if I mean they couldn't stop Girly. If Gurly really goes off and I mean one hundred and twenty rushing yards, two touchdowns and then another you know, four or five receptions.

You know, if he's got one hundred and fifty all purpose yards and helps them get to twenty twenty seven thirty points something like that, I could see that being a hard hold to dig out of, especially if they get up on them early. That would surprise me because the Rams defense isn't overly impressive. But if it's another situation where they can just tee off on Dac and the run game isn't as as important as it is to the Cowboys if they aren't allowed to lean on

it that way, I could see that being a problem. Okay, I think it's the second one. I guess they can't run it because if they can't run, and it's gonna allow it's gonna allow the Rams to kind of do some things. They're gonna have good field position, the Rams are gonna be able to be, you know, more flexible in what they do in their play calling. I think if the Cowboys can't run, then that's where the issues are.

But if they run the football like I think they're gonna be able to run it, then I don't think Girley will even get you know, I don't think Girley will be a huge factor in the running game. He'll still be out there as a pass catcher. But I think it's all gonna be about the Cowboys run. If they don't run the football, then it's gonna open up other things. That's a tough one. I'm in between the first two. I believe it would be more tours Cowboys

not being able to run the ball. Girly. I'm kind of concerned, especially with the whole shanleee thing if he's not there and stuff. But at the same time, I'm like, ah, there's too much fuss around him, kind of expecting the Cowboys to be able to hopefully stop him. But I would say most likely would be because Zeke wasn't able to be as productive as we expect him to be.

I don't think it was a coincidence that the game of the Cowboys the worst game we've seen the Cowboys play in a year, and however many games, three games this season, happened in a game where they could not run the ball, And so I think that everything everything the Cowboys do results from how they run the ball. They can't run the ball. I don't think they pass as effectively. I don't think they play defense as effectively. I think running is what they do, and if they

can't do that, everything else suffers. And so I think in every game it's probably the same. That would probably be the same answer for me, unless proven otherwise. That would be the same answer for me, probably for every game that unless they can run the ball, all bets are off, because when we've seen them run it effectively, they tend to win. When we've seen them not run

it effectively. They struggle and a pretty convincing argument, and so I think that's really kind of what it comes down to this week and probably for a few weeks to come right. All right, Nick, it's all just before the show or in the first segment, you told us we're gonna tell us a story, and you actually told us you're gonna tell us a story backwards, which I don't really understand how that works, but I'm assuming you're about to let us convinced it's gonna work. All right,

So let's let's go back. This is um six years ago. Okay, this is beautiful. I love the music. Okay, So the monday you've got this is the monday after the game they played against the Rams. Okay, Jason Garretts walking in the hall, he sees one of these veteran scout Chris Hall has been around forever, seez Chris Hall and says, hey, Chris, I thought about you all day yesterday when what an

awesome game. Congratulations to the scout, and the scout was kind of taken back, gives him a high five and says, yeah, that was great, coach. Things. So that goes Sunday, we'll take reverse it back into Sunday. DeMarco Murray against the Rams. Two hundred and fifty three rushing yards against the Rams. It's just me and New because everyone else is on

the front. But yeah, right, two hundred and fifty three yards for DeMarco Murse set the Cowboys all time rushing record, I mean for a single game, ninety one yard touchdown. He was unbelievable and came out of nowhere, didn't even

start the game. So that takes the reason why Garrett had said that to Chris Hall as it goes back to the previous April as in the draft, because they had him rated up high as we need a high second round pick, and here they are early in the third round and he's the best guy on the board. But Jason's getting a little antsy because Stephen Ridley from LSUS there and maybe we take him, and he looks pretty good, and he's you know, Jason just can't make

a decision sometime. Well, Chris Hall is getting upset because it's like, this is why we have one hundred and thirty seven meetings. He's up there, he's the guy. Let's take him. We don't need to call Barry Switzer anymore. He's the guy, you know, let's take him. And the clock's running down. They're on the clock. Garrett turns, looks at Jason Garrett. I mean, he looks at Chris Hall and says, we're in the meadow Lands, January, first, fourth

and one on the goal line. Does he score? And Chris stands up and goes, listen, because this is twenty and eleven. They've just taken Tyron Smith. He's like, listen, you give him the damn ball. Run his ass behind the guy you just draft, and he'll score every time. And then Jason Garrett just turns in the card and says,

de Marco Murray and that's that's. There we go, and there we go, and it worked out and that was a big you know when you're a young scout like that, or he is a young scout, but he you know, any scout and you get a win like that. And then then Garrett remembers what six months later he scores. He's thinking about that guy that told him, you know, the NFL draft, that was a great story told backwards.

That was a good job. There you go. The NFL Draft is just the best because there's a story like that for every player, even the ones that don't turn out to be good. But it's even better when the guy actually turns out to be an All Pro and an Offensive Player of the Year. And it's really interesting when you start and I know you guys have heard

some of the footage. I know it was. There have been times when I've been able to kind of be a fly on the wall to hear some of the things that are being talked about inside the war room and how they they make, some of the picks that they make, and it's just to me, it's really fascinating just how some of this cut goes down. It's not as as clear cut as people think it is all the time. There's a lot of discussion that happens. There's a lot of people that are involved in those discussions.

Really fascinating. Let's shamelessly plug ourselves and our guy, Knt Garrison for a minute, who went and for the Dak humentory that we made, went and found that war room footage and he showed it to me, and it's like Jason Garrett talking about how Dak processes defenses and how he throws and all this type of stuff. And Kent was like, you think we can use this, and I

was like, would be better? No. Well, I was like, there's no way they're gonna let us use that, and Kent was like, I'm gonna ask anyway, and sure, now here we go made it into our movie and it

was freaking awesome. But that's the thing, Like you mentioned, Barry Switzer, but when in that draft, I remember I was actually I was in another part of the building and we were taping some stuff from the war room, and so I heard a part of that call when they talked to Barry Switzer about DeMarco Murray and him kind of tell them that you know, this guy's legit. You take him, you're gonna be happy with him, and just kind of selling them on it. But that's the thing.

There's so many opinions that happen that are given about players as they make a decisions. It's not as simple as like you know people think about their fantasy draft. They just think you look on your on your own little sheet and you say, okay, I'll take this guy. Yeah, it's a lot more than that that goes into it on draft day, not just all the stuff before which we all know, but on draft day, it's a lot

more complex than that. Yeah, because because this is the ultimate keeper League, right yeah, really, they stay with you. That's the reason that I just said that real quick, that story and how it pertains is that Zeke's gonna break that record this weekend. But that's really why I did that. So he's gonna go for two sixth Oh, we got a crazy prediction right now? What do you have, Dave? Oh? I just it's funny because that is the way a

lot of fans approach it is. They're like, we need a cornerback, look down the list of names, and like, little, who's our top guy at cornerback? Little? Do they know the guy that they're pounding on the table demanding the Cowboys draft has been off their board for like eight weeks for whatever reason. Right, Yeah, it's way more complicated than it looks. Absolutely all right, let's go ahead and

real quick take our final break. When we come back, we do have a game for you guys, see on No, we haven't done that in a while, so Amber has that set up for us. We'll also take some questions, so feel free to call us in numbers two one, four, eight seven two twenty one O two again. It is two one four eight seven two twenty one O two, or you can hit us on Twitter at Cowboys Break.

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something to say about it. I'm trying to see if we can just get through it. Tommy John read without it being a thing. Okay, I guess we did that time. We got through it without saying something else. All right, let's go. We're gonna have a game. And can you hear me? Okay what I was checking it? You're back on now? Yeah? Yeah, all right? Good? What do you have for us? Okay you guys ready see ready? The Marcus Lawrence and again these are all just random and

some of them are just kind of guessing. So anyways, the Marcus Lawrence keeps his sack sack streak going. Why is that funny when you say sack streak, we're talking about multiple sacks in a game. Well, I'm still thinking about Tommy John. Wow, I guess we didn't get mine out of the gutter. All right. He keeps his little streak going, Wow, this is just that's worse, all right, he keeps his streak of multiple multiple sacks per game. Is that what you're saying? Okay, all right, so I say, see, no,

see he gets I think he's gonna get one. But I don't know. I mean, no, no way, for a month. Only been one that's done it in the history, a month's worth. I don't know. It's one of one of those. It's one of the two. I don't know. I thought I remembered you saying that two in the press box when you're talking to remember which one. It's a hair thing, you know, realize all three of these guys have some much. Yeah, Demarker, DeMarcus Lawrence, he's got some hair. Gastinel Green, Gastel had longer.

I don't remember what, Oh it was the long the end dark here. Yeah, I'm going one sack, one sack, not too not too amber. We'll seek play like seek again. What is like Zeke. You didn't think he played like Zeke last week? We're talking about twenty sixteen, seek like, yes, he was, d Zeke, this is this is gonna be the best rushing day of the year so far. See see it's gonna look like it's gonna look good to see.

I'm with you on that. Hey, real quick, before you got the next question, what do you guys think of was Zeke? You said yesterday in the locker room about Yeah, when he's asked about you know, what do you say to people who who say you've you've lost a step? And he said, shut up? What do you guys think about that? Ah? I thought it was kind of funny, but I think, um, you know, the critics who say that he's got maturing to do, like, I mean, that doesn't paint him as like the most mature guy in

the world in my opinion. I mean, it's it's funny and I think it's harmless. But but at the same time, I think he's been hearing that a lot, right, seeing that a lot, and he gets to a point like it's hard to keep your mouth shut when people are coming at you. You know. Well, that's also my question, like, do you think it bothers him. Do you think that, yes, this bothers it? Yes, yeah. I can't believe I just

said yeah, yeah. I'm sure it does bother him. And I'm sure he's not gonna say it because I don't know. Maybe it sounds arrogant, but I'm sure it's frustrating not just balling out for one forty every week like he did last year. You know, like you get used to that. I hate questions like that. I don't even know who asked that, And I've gotten in trouble before by saying by saying that, you know, when I don't know who, and then you find out it was some one of

your friends. No, I find out it was other people. But I just don't like that. I don't like that question because it's like, you know, people are saying people like who, Like that's when Zeke should be like, who are you saying it? Are you saying? Are you calling me fat? Because they do that all the time, Like there's people that are saying that you've done this, or people are saying you guys quit on that. But are you saying he's fat? Right now? He's too fat? I

don't think he's fat for whatever. No, but I'm torn. I'm torn between thinking it's funny and wanting football players to say funny things and being like, come on, zee, you don't need that sound bite. But whatever. Oh well, well you know shut people up then too. That's another way to run by people and score. And I thought it was pretty interesting the game, the thirty yard run he had last week. When you think back to other times this last season, he breaks free, I mean he's

going to the house. I mean there's there's nobody that's gonna catch him. That's his mentality. He's his speed guy, and he's even though he looks big, he is big. He can run. But go back to that game, he was looking for cuts. He was looking for ways that he could he wasn't gonna get caught from behind it because he had he had the ability to go, but he didn't think he could get there, so then he

started making cuts and all that. That to me tells me that either that particular play he couldn't go all the way, or he doesn't feel like he's got the speed. Because the speed guy's getting the open field like that that they're they're gone. When they start looking around, then that they they're like, all right, I gotta cut here, and I gotta take angles away from people. But the

fast guys don't really worry about that. I'd like to look at that play kind of believe that, But I also think that there's a part of that that you might be missing that maybe he thought a guy had an angle. Yeah, I want to look at that. That's less about his own his own speed and more about I think this guy's got the angle on me, so let me try to make a move so I can, yeah, make as much out as I can. That run was like from inside their own twenty right. It was kind

of back on that side. Not a lot of players in the NFL. Tyreek Hill comes to mind, but there's not a lot of players in the NFL that are going to house the ball from eighty five yards away, like just but Zeke is one of those. Would you not last year you don't think he was that kind of guy. He had a couple of sixty yard yes, that's it wasn't like they were gonna catch him in the last ten or fifteen if it would have been

eighty five. From my memory, the one he had against Detroit, he had to dive into the end zone to get there in front of the guys. That one he had against Cincinnati, he ran straight up the middle and just ran everybody right train size hole down the middle of the field. And it was Yeah, but I'm talking about the speed of the secondary to close on him. It wasn't like he was way faster than they were. You're running that far, I think, Okay, I don't think I'm

gonna when you're running that far. I think as soon as maybe ten yards away, the guy that's falling Zeke or they're running, it's not gonna catch up. They usually give up when they're that far. I still, I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't think of him as a as like a ball. I just don't think of him as a burner, like that guy that's definitely always going to get away from the defense. He can do it and has done it on occasion. But that's not that's not the strength of his games. I

get your point. I mean, basically, what you're saying is he's not He's not that guy that's that His game is predicated on speed, right, It's like a combination of things, and he has good speed, but he's not like the game's not just predicated. The Cincinnati play, he literally took the ball, went right up the middle, didn't have to

change course or anything. This Arizona play, he's making a man missing the hole, he's cutting, he's you know this is obviously semantics, but yeah, probably and I canna score. I don't think of Twitter. I just pull up Zeke. Yeah, Cardinals thirty. And I don't think he's a step slower because he didn't score on that play. Yeah, I thought he could of they were and they were close. Twenty seven was closing in on him. I mean, I think he probably made the right decision breaking out to the outside.

You know, it's probably the right thing to do. All right, let's get the next question. He's fine. Do you guys think that they will run any wildcat plays with Switzer? No wildcat O, Your wildcat is back that. In my opinion, he is the guy. I mean, the wildcat started when you have quarterbacks that aren't very athletic and you need some kind of ways to trick it up. But when you have a quarterback who can run and throw, I mean that touchdown that he had was a wildcat type

of play. So I don't I could see some different types of plays with Switzer, but I don't know if it's necessarily wildcat. I say, no, I'm not trying yeah, no, sorry, not trying to take it. Is Whitnen's blocking becoming a liability, No, I don't call it a liability. Watch the touchdown, the one that Zeke's last touchdown that that was a really nice play by all three of those guys on the right side. Liability means he's hurting the team. I don't think he's blocking is hurting the team now, I don't.

I also, I'm not one that believes that that Jason Witten as a blocker is as good as Jason Witten the blocker five years ago. But I don't think he's a liability, not at all. He definite he had a play in that game where he let up on a block that resulted in not as good of a game that it could have been. Right, I don't think of him as a liability either. He's just a He's an all around good player. He's not Martellis Bennett in the run game like, He's not this just maller tight end

block right. And you know, over the time that I've been here, he's probably good for a flag or so every game or two. I mean, you know, you hear, you get he gets flagged on a somewhat regular basis, But you overlook those things because he's he is a damn good all around player. I certainly don't think of him as a liability at all. I think when guys get older in their career, they or not even older. I mean when they're trying to get off the ball so quick that that that's going to happen. I mean

you were trying to anticipate. Because he knows that he going up against defensive ends that are twenty four to twenty five years old. I mean, he's gotta take every half second he can. And you know, but von Miller does the same thing as far as like I gotta, I gotta do this and results in a flag, of results in a flag. But I think I think those penalties have gone up for Witten as the years have gone up here, it makes sense, But your makes liability, No,

not at all. I don't think. I think a liability is a way too strong word for that. Um. Like I said, I think I think they're plays. I mean, you go back to every game you can find plays where his blocking isn't the greatest and so, but I don't think it's when you look at the whole full picture of what he does and especially their ability to kind of that's the thing like when some guys come in the game, you pretty much know what they're gonna

be doing. You know, if ja if Hannah comes in the game, you know what he's going to be doing. The fact that Jason Witten is a versatile tight end that can block and catch passes and do both of them, well, I think that's what makes him special. So no way would end and there's still not many tight ends in the game that are getting open enough like as receivers, but then go to the line of scrimmage and play

that way, right. I think Kelsey's a good blocker, okay, think and I think that's what's kind of the same thing, the same thing as Jason though it's it's he's an okay blocker, But how many how many tight ends you put him on a defensive end and they're gonna really be able to block that guy, Like that's already a mismatch, right, Yeah, you did you watch the game late enough last night to hear Romo talking about Winton. Yeah, that was pretty cool about how good, like how he could have been

he was the beneficiary, Yeah, but he was. But he was talking about like how on third and eight He's like, I know this is an eight yard comeback route, but run it past the sticks. And Nance said he was like, yeah, Witten did that a few times, like yeah, understatement, yeah, romo. Um, I'm telling you every time. It was a good chance to watch and listen to him even more. And he's he's he's really good. I mean, he's just really good at what he's doing. I mean, this is this is

what he's supposed to be doing. I think. I mean, I'm not saying he's not. It wasn't a great quarterback, but I'm just saying at this stage, I think this is this is perfect for him. He actually like he really enjoys it too. Sorry, no, I was gonna say. I actually think when Saul sitting down, I'm talking twenty thirty years from now, he will be more remembered as a commentator than he will as a quarterback. And that says a lot because I mean, think about John Madden.

John Madden won a Super Bowl as a coach. I think most people today know him more for Madden the Game and for and as a commentator than they do with him as a coach. And that's what I that's the point I'm making is I think he will be so good at that that his legacy will be more around the fact that he was a really, really great commentator. Well yeah, but because that's what people you know, young people,

that's how young people relate to older players. You know, there's young people don't know anything about George Hollis really or Tom Landry yea, but no Lombardi because it's the trophy. And they know Madden because they play the game and maybe they've watched him in But Michael Irvin's on TV every day and right now, if you ask young people what they thought of Michael Irvin, they're probably gonna still think of him as a wide receiver more than they

think of him as a TV personality. Would you not say that's accurate or I think you might be the issue guy. I think you might be a little too close to properly comment on that. I think you think you think most people still young people think they don't think of him as a well a great wide receiver. Young and young people who aren't lifelong Dallas Cowboys fans probably not what Yeah, but that's what I guess. That's

the point. I'm not talking about just the average person on the street, because if you do that, then yeah, most people that are just average person think think of him and Smith as a gallon dancing with the stars. So I don't think it's that. I'm saying. If you're a football fan, if you're a Cowboys fan, how do you how do you relate to that? How do you know that guy? In Oakland Raiders fan? Do you think they still think of John Madden more as a coach than they do as a that's the game or as

the commentator? I think, I mean, keep like Michael Irvin. Kids who are going into college right now have no memory of Michael Irvin playing, so they probably think of him as a TV host who they know was a good wide receiver because he always talks about it and like Daz is his son and all that type of And that's the thing too, Tony talks about it a

lot on there. I think, you know, the Patriots are probably going to play the Chiefs and the AFC Championship Game, and that's where whoever's going to be an AFC champ that's where Tony. That's gonna be the biggest moment to me for for how people will be watching that game right there. And I do believe that they have the Super Bowl as well, but I'm not even counting that because no one listens to the commentator because they're at parties, so that that's probably not going to be as big

a moment. I mean, he'll have some opportunities in the playff super Bowls. I think NBC has is it? I thought it was CBS and maybe not, But either way, he'll be at the AFC Championship game. They don't have parties for that usually we're watching that. He'll have an opportunity to really show the world like how good he is and it's NBC. Is it okay? Next year? No? I don't remember what the question was about Romo. Oh it was about wow we got we got there from blocking? Yeah,

way to go. It's close enough right now. Yeah, it's only been one game. But has Demontre Moore made made any difference on the D line? I thought he was good, see, I mean he had a nice he had a nice takedown on Carson Palmer, seemed like you got some pressure. He's got the versatility to play some tackle if they need him to, which is important if first of all, because they're short there anyway, and also because Pie has been banged up. So see, I'll say everybody's overshadowed by

Malik into Marcus right now. But I don't think he's been bad. Yeah, I'll say, see, I mean he's done some things. You're right if you're not. If you're not getting sacks, it's easy to say, well, you're not doing anything. But but I'm sure he's been fine. Yeah, I don't think he's made an impact yet. I mean, yeah, he's been fine. I don't think he's made an impact yet. And quite frankly, I think and that may be because

my expectations. I expect him to make more of an impact as this season wears on he gets back in the flow of things, mainly because I expect those other two guys to take a lot more attention and that will create opportunities for him. And I think he's one of the few on this defensive line that can take advantage of a one a man to man matchup and be able to beat that guy and get to the quarterback. He had a couple of pressures and took down the

quarterback and his first game back from suspension. So I think that's pretty good. I mean, that's fine. I feel like I just feel like y'all are kind of selling. I'm sure right now. Honestly, to be honest with I just he goes back to a lot of other conversations we've had today. I guess this is kind of that day. But you know, I just I don't think it's a significant amount. I mean, I think he was okay. I thought he was fine. I didn't say it was a

significant amount. He's just the question was impact. I don't know if I say impact. So whatever, Derek, Yeah, Oh, I mean he's good. We're just haven't seen enough. See see Barron Jones plays Wait, Barron Jones better playing closer to the line of scrimmage. Hmm, I see. I'd certainly there's a big hesitation. Why the hesitation for everybody? The hesitation is because I haven't seen a lot of great plays at the line of scrimmage, But have you seen

a lot in the back end? He made He made a nice play on them on the would be touchdown in Denver and the guy got concussed. That was but and and I know he. I saw him with my own eyes make some great plays from center field at training camp. It has not translated to the regular season yet. But earlier in his career they were playing him around the line of scribbage a lot, and he tended. I thought he was playing pretty well in that kind of role. That's why they were putting up So so we've kind

of seen moments of both. That's what that was my hesitation at least. And I don't know that I've seen either one consistently or either one like this season in these three games. He is an all around, very talented guy who hasn't put it all together yet. Yeah, it's a good way to put it. I mean, that's a good way it is. Yeah, let's good to put it. Did you answer, um, are you playing? Ember loves to call Nick out. Let's call any one of them. I'm not just Nick. Yeah, I think he's probably better at

the line of scrimmage. But I mean who cares? I mean, who cares at third and three? I mean, like that part of the field, no one really cares. They care when it's forty yards down the field, and you didn't make the play, That's what I mean. And so yeah, I think he's better right here, but his job is to also be back here and be center field. So that's kind of the issue, That's what I mean. And this one is kind of a prediction type of thing. Well,

Todd Gurley fumble and the Cowboys RecA the turnover. Now, we have not talked about that all week. Well, Nick said, you know, Nick, Nick said, he came up with his story in the shower. He does his best thinking in the shower. I do my thinking when I walk my dog, and I was thinking about that while I was walking my dog this morning. They have what one takeaway this year? Jordan Lewis, Anthony Brown and Anthony Brown. You're right, I'm sorry they have two and Millie Collins at the one.

What a Millie Collins Denver? Oh? Oh so they have Okay, they have I guess they have three on the season. Won a game, right, but none in the last game. Oh yeah, yes, which I'm two. Marinelli's goal is forty and they're woefully they're woefully short right now. They I mean, that would be great, get some takeaways. I don't know if it's if Gurley is gonna fumble, but he's been

having some fumble issues this year. I know golf has been awesome, but pick this dude off, even if it's because you're he's throwing while he's getting hit or something that get a takeaway that would make me feel a lot better about your chances to win. Yeah, we don't have much time left, so let's get some quick predictions. Thanks for the game, member, Amber. Why don't we start with you give us your your prediction for this game?

Who wins? What's the score? I hate saying this again because I've been saying it almost every week about Switzer, but I'm just like waiting for him to just go for it. And you're just like it's like roulette, Like it's like red red red with it. Yeah, all right, that's yeah. I'm learning from the cowboys with some of these guys. That's what they call it, gambler's fallacy, for whatever that's worth. But staying on ten, they don't realize that the probabilities stay the same about it every single

time it resets. Yeah, learned that in math class. Well that's my my crazy little prediction, which I'm still waiting for it to happen. It's very simple. Switzer, first touchdown, He's just gonna grab that ball and run for it and then let me see it. Twenty eight, twenty three, thirty eight seventeen. Dallas, they just they're thirty eight seventeen. They're just gonna kick their ass. I'm gonna say one hundred and seventy five total yards for Zeke total, one

seventy five. He's gonna go off baying about one thirty. See, I've been sticking with Switzer, you've been sticking with one thirty five all purpose yards. They can win by three touchdowns. I think we're about to see the difference between the quality and cornerbacks that Dez Bryant has been facing. I think if you own him in fantasy, start him. I'm thinking eight catches, one twenty in a touchdown something like that.

I don't think it's gonna be quite as bad. But I think, honestly, the Cowboys I think are better across the board. The Rams have better defensive linemen, but I consider that a wash, and I think they're gonna crack thirty points this week, thirty one, thirty one, twenty ish, something like that. That's interesting. You guys took both things. I was gonna say, I was gonna say the running game.

I think this is a game. Talking about what you talked earlier in the week, Dave, about how aggressives this defense is. I think this is going to create some lanes for Zeke that he hasn't really seen yet this year, and I do think that. I think he's tired of hearing the talk, and I think he has I think this offensive line is tired of people kind of doubting them. I think this is a game where they will create those lanes. Zeke will exploit them. He'll have a big day.

I also agree that Dez is going to have a good day too, because he is not This is the first week where he is not facing a cornerback that is the caliber of the guys he's already faced. So I think it'll be a good week for him. I think the Cowboys win thirty one sixteen. I think they blow them out. I don't think it's going to be really that close by the time you get to the third and fourth quarter. All Right, guys, appreciate you joining us.

We'll be back on Monday. We'll tell you what went right and what went wrong for the Cowboys till then for Nick, even Dave hellmant amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagels and this has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.