Cowboys Break: Week 15 Predictions

edition of The Break. We are live at the SWBC more Get Studios at the Star talking a little Cowboys football of how's everybody feeling this morning? Great? Good of you to join us, Derek, Yeah, yeah, good, I forgot you were part of this show. Was still work here? Yeah? I do still work here? How are you? And? Uh? Jay King? And I'm ready to Eagleton? Don't you know who I am? Is that me? Really? Yeah? You don't sound like I was about to say. Do you really

think I'd do that kind of stuff? Like? Do you know who I am? I bet you've said that before. I've never said that before. I don't think that much of myself like that. How are you? Nick? I'm good. Good, Thanks for asking. No one gave you a hard time about missing the show yesterday because they didn't really notice or care. That's not I've had something to do with being here for the first two that's true. Yeah, good point, good point. You only missed one day, that is big

a deal. But this week you're at forty plus, Like only one of the four people here takes the time to like keep track of what day, what episode it is, and like you know all that, you know, have your own sign off and your own greeting and all that. If you're gonna do it, do it with flair man. Okay, you know, all right, let's tuck some Cowboys football. How many pieces of flair? Thirty three, thirty seven? It's pretty good. Catch me up on injuries, what's going on with those

uh those inside? Okay, Um, you did not participation for three you know yesterday when we did the show with Brian and I've had a good feeling yesterday that David Irving would practice, and he did not. He did not. So that's really that's that's what I'm looking at as far as like really interesting developments. I think I feel like the writing is probably on the Wall that Orlando Scandrick's not quite ready, especially given that the secondary has

played well, no sense in rushing him back. James Hannah upgraded to limited lyle Collins and Tyrn Smith both did something yesterday, so uh, you know, Bryce Butler, same thing. Like you kind of get the feeling that everything's sort of rounding into shape except for your starting defensive tackle. Have you guys talked to anybody about the concussion Eddie sustained? And I mean it seems to be kind of lingering a bit. It's now into the second week. I know,

all concussions are different. I'm dealing with that at home right now. The concussions are different and and they don't always progress the same way. They're not always the same way. Obviously. Rico Gathers, who we saw getting a concussion back can training camp, ended up in ir and still is not

practicing fully with the team or whatever. So have you guys talk to anybody Is this one of those that's just like, is it always just a situation where you wait and see or they thinking that maybe this is a worse concussion than than others that they've seen. Have you heard anything that suggests, you know, what his status really is like long term here. I think the only thing we've really heard was that he was making progress, But that doesn't mean anything if it was started out

really really bad. So I'm sure Rico's made progress. So you know, I got the I got the sense that he would probably play this week earlier this week. I don't feel that way anymore, right because he's not practicing. That's exactly how I felt. I kind of mean, you know, I mean, here's a guy that takes him, you know, pretty much a nude picture of himself and puts it

on Instagram, you know, when he's not concussed. And so it's what I'm saying, is is that never taking a nude picture of yourself and put it on Instagram, you're saying you have I'm just asking, like he made it something like that was such a weird a MySpace thing. You did it on MySpace, but never on Instagram. I'm just saying, it's kind of crazy. He's a different cat,

that's okay. Trying to figure out if he's concussed or not might not be the easiest thing to do, and that may be the problem here that they're like, we don't have a good base. We don't really know. I wonder if I mean, you know, it's the guy that was looking for his nipple ring at practice lost. He's a different cat. There's no doubt I like David like you. I just don't like David Irving. I don't like you like he's the best he is. But I wonder, you know,

there's no I mean, he played with a concussion. That's what he did. I mean he did. It's not like he took a knock and exited and got evaluated like he And that's the other part to it, too, is that I guess you didn't see a moment in the game when, like you know, sometimes you see a guy you we saw Rico get hit and and we were like, oh wow, that was a major hit. And and so it didn't surprise anybody. I don't think now, as long

as he's been I was probably still surprising. But but he didn't surprise anybody that that was something that was gonna take a while. I don't remember that moment in again in the game when David Irving, like when I saw a hit and I was like, oh wow, no, well problem, I guess, Well my point was gonna be, is you know, didn't. I didn't. I saw him delivered to somebody else. I didn't see him take the hit. Was there a like that? Yes, he landed on his back in that game, and I mean he he had

a hard time getting off the field. I thought he was gonna be out right then, but he did come back. But I know exactly that was that the one in the Washington It was in the Washington game. Yeah, yeah, it was in the Washington game because he came back later and hit Cousins and then knocked him into Lawrence earlier in that game. So this was before the hit on, This was before the sack. Yeah, okay, yeah, this is

I mean not Rogers. Isn't good. I mean, obviously we know this isn't a good situation because but he did the play that I think happened on he he got kind of flipped around and he landed up on his neck and back, and he had a hard time getting

off the field. But but I my point was, I wonder if they're being even more cautious, because, like I said, it's not like you took the hit and then immediately went into evaluation and you were done like he played with it, which is I would assume even more dangerous. So maybe they're using an abundance of caution in light of that because he played the rest of a football game, and that could also signal you can't trust the players.

It's a great point because if they if they if he went on the sideline and didn't really tell anybody and they didn't notice, they didn't see the hit to say maybe there's something wrong or whatever the case might be, if they were relying on his word and he just was like, I'm good, I can go, Yeah, then maybe they're kind of like, guy, we need to have more testing and not really listen to the player on this one. This time yesterday, I felt pretty good that he would play,

and I'm guessing I'm leaning more towards not now. Okay, So that's that's the big one for me. So obviously Scandrick has had I mean the with the back problems. He probably is not I wouldn't assume is gonna play at this point. Talking about Bryce Butler, he's got the foot injury. Last week when he popped up on the injury or where we were kind of like, well, we don't know what's going to happen. Now it's into a

second week. Is this a little more serious than to maybe what we assumed initially, Yes, because I know he wants to do anything and everything to play in this game. He wants to play against his former team, the team that drafted him, in an area that he's really familiar with.

I mean he you know, well, I say that he's from you know, college in California, not really up there, but he went, you know, he obviously played for the Raiders, and so he wants wants to play in this game and even said he was fine missing last week's game if he could play this week. But I think he's getting caught up in a couple of other things. I

don't think it's just the situation of his foot. I think that it maybe Noah Brown is close enough to take in some of those snaps that you put the injury on top of that, but that wouldn't keep him out of practice. Then I wouldn't keep him out of practice, but it might keep being active, Yeah, which is important for him because he's on a one year deal and after this year he's got to go out into free

agency and try to find another deal. And when he's missing games with her not being able to put David type of thing. Yeah, you know, I mean they want to they want to put these He already missed some games too, so yeah, I think that factors into these guys telling trainers that they're good. I got him good, I'm good. Yeah. The thing about a receiver is it's different than a concussion. You got a foot injury for a receiver. You you know, if you're not very fast,

everybody can see it. Yeah, and that's his thing. He is. He speed, speed guy. That's what he brings to the table. Speed pretty much theoretically not not speed enough for Nick, but a speed guy. Nonetheless. Well, it's still the point now that if you use saying Bolt doesn't come in here with a cowboy helmet, I just don't care. And it's just not it's not fast enough. When we were at the Giants um, I asked him on the bus.

I don't know if you heard the conversation, Nick, but he basically said that he was feeling around ninety five percent whatever that means, but basically insinuating that he talking about Bryce Ryce health wise. Yeah, because I asked him, he said the same injury. You know, back from training him, He's like yeah, and he kind of explained me, it's like certain, however, he steps on the foot and maybe

bothers him a little bit in a way. But he was saying from the way, it sounded like he's feeling close to being, you know, one, and to me surprising to see that he hasn't practiced yet. Were you nice to him, like when this conversation happened, Like, were you like asking about him? Were you like, why aren't you playing whist boy? Like I can picture that very clear? Like her, like her literally just like insulting, Yeah, just like you're gonna play or you a coward? I asked him, Hey,

how are you doing? Because I could see him in his face like he he is not, you know, very happy right now. So I asked her, Hey, so you were right Dan, Okay, yeah, I'm happy. That's just wondering. Wow, it was on the bus with a bunch of players. I don't think he's just gonna call him out. That's a good Yeah. I don't know, Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. She is kind of fearless. All right,

let's talk about inactives. I think we all kind of agree based upon that conversation that Butler Irving and Scandrick will likely be inactive this week. Going beyond that, you basically have one, two, three, four, five, maybe six players that you need to get four more four more of them onto onto the inactive list. Let me throw out the names and then you tell me the four that you'd like to see that you think will be there. Dayton Jones, Chaz Green, Justin march Lillard or Justin Durant

or both. If you choose Trey Williams and Blake Jarwin, who are your four? Well, let's start with Trey Williams real quick. Yes, he will be inactive this week. However, the Cowboys got to figure something out there because their third running back is inactive. Now next week, Sekiel Elliott will join the party, and uh, maybe he looks like this, maybe he doesn't, but he he will be the third.

I mean, they won't be the third running back, but they won't keep I mean they'll they'll probably have three active. I don't think Alfred Moore they even have one like Willy will They cut Trey william Oh I would imagine, yeah, I would guess. But but my issue is is that he's the third running back. He's inactive that won't happen next week. You know, next week Alfred Morris will be active, so will Rod Smith? Of course, Well, I think that's

an interest. I think that's a question. I don't know if I think that's a that's a for sure, can't be a question. You cannot bring this guy back wherever he's been, what he's doing. He can't just come in and say you're the guy. You got to have Alfred Morris active. Well, but if you had Rod Smith active? Is that? Is that not enough? Just the two of them? I don't think now, don't get me wrong. If you've got spots like this week, I think inactives are kind

of an afterthought. But but let's assume that everybody's healthy. Yeah, we have five shows. I guess next week the thought can we just focus on having a good Friday? Okay, sorry, your third running back is going to be inactive, but next week that might not be as easy. So tray tray William w us next Wednesday. I agree with with Nicholas for whatever that's work. I don't care what you agree with. Wow, Okay, I didn't care. Cool, thanks, not worth? Sorry,

I gotta feeling sorry. I'll just turn this rest of the show. Um, okay, Oh, go ahead, finish your statement. Zeke's been gone for six weeks. You can't guarantee you know what kind of condition he's in or trust that he's just ready to rip off twenty eight carries his first week back. I think it's the Seahawks against yeah, against a very good defense, even with the injuries they have. Um, so yeah, I wouldn't sit. Maybe you sit Morris for the Eagles if if you know, if Zeke looks good

or whatever, But I would. I would have through running backs active for that game. So going back to this week's game, Trey Williams, Trey Williams, you think is that is in sidem down? So give me three more guys? Who was three? Lake? Darwin? How you down to two? Jarwin and pick pick your linebacker? Probably one of the two. You don't put both one probably you know, well you

don't need to put both. Okay, I would probably, I mean i'd probably sit to rant because March Lillard can play special teams and you've got all your other linebackers healthy. Got eight one more between Dayton Jones and she Wait, I thought you said we only needed three. We needed four more. We had three stand Irving Bryce. You were too busy trying to si. This guy's going to the Pro Bowl, right, I knew you were going to do this. Sp uh. Someday he will stop it. I guarantee will

Dave go. Um crap? What what were my options? I'm sorry, Dayton, you down to Dayton Jones or Chaz Green. I think your finals well all right, I think that I think they felt good about what Dayton Jones did last week, so I'll be well, oh um, what about oh damn. You probably don't want to sit Daniel Ross either, not if Irving's not playing. If irvings plan, I think he's gotta be act. They didn't they sit him. They said

him last week against the Giants though didn't. Yeah, he was, I would say, Daniel Ross, okay, let me ask you this question, though, playing a team that has a running back the caliber of the running back you're gonna face this weekend, do you think maybe you need that extra defensive tackle. I think I'm way more worried about how my linebackers are playing than my defensive tacks. Got it funny the way you say sign back because you already got,

but you're already gonna have on. I'm saying, like Daniel Ross, isn't the difference between whether or not Marshawn Lynch has a good day. That's what I'm trying to say. All Right, So I would probably sit Daniel Ross, and you'd keep Dayton Jones and you'd keep Jazz Green active just because it's I mean, they've they've been practicing, or they both

were a practice yesterday. They've both played really well, but it still seems smart to have an insurance policy other than I don't I mean, if they're both gimpy, might why not both? Yeah? I worked well so far. Just just remember this when I said Blake Darwin James Hannah has Yeah, there's something worth keeping an eye on. And he's been he was limited yes your day day, so he's you know, he's progressing. He miss wins the limited. We'll see what happens today. And he's coming off his

best catch of his entire career. So I think everyone probably play. I'm trying to figure out if that's true. I don't know. I mean, we had a hard time coming up with another one that was like that was a great kid. I'm not saying it wasn't I'm just that might be the best catch that any guy's made for this team this year. Like, just that was very good catch easily. Still. Yeah that was six years ago. Yeah, that was six years ago. I mean, no one's putting that on the T shirt. Six years ago. It seems

like a long time. It does seem like a long time ago. Yeah, that's how seasons go, though. Ye think about those games back in September, they feel like they were two seasons ago. Like that feel like a long December. No, no, Counting Crows, this isn't. Yeah, you don't strike me as a Counting Crows fan. Nah, I don't even know who that is. Yeah, you do shut out, seriously, I don't. I don't know who that is. Who is that cool? Whatever? Are? We'll put on some Marvin Gay. It's fine. There you go.

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and warranty limitations applies. So do you love for details? Back to the break, sluckle back, Got to be Different Break? Never heard of? Never heard a Long December by Accounting Crows. Sure, I don't understand why that bothers him so much. Like it's like one of those songs that it's just ubiquitous in American life, Like you can't get away from it obviously. So because I've never heard I mean, I don't know.

It's one thing to say that I've you you don't like it or whatever, but like if you've really never heard it, I've really never heard it. Like seriously, I've never heard it before. Crazy to me, and I listen to a lot of music. I just never heard that never. I'm trying to think of a like you know, it's whatever, stoy go away. It's the second time of the day you told me to go away. Don't like this? What you just don't like that kind of music? What kind

of music is that? What are you trying to say? See, Ken's got it pulled up on the boarders. How popular. I've never heard the song, and I'm surprised. I'm just never, Like you said, if it's one of those songs, just see it, everyone, just hear. How have we not played this on any of our seasons? Because every name December has been a long December? Like why has it been? Like the music too slow to be on anything that

we would do. It's pretty slow. It's a great songs, okay, and I'm not right now, I'm not convinced it's a great song. What is a great song? What is a great song? I took this thing. I took this thing off the rails. Go everybody, everybody, great song, Um, your next pit Bull? Great song? Sexual Healing. It's a great song. Okay, this I got nothing to say to that. That is a great song. Amber a great song. You want to hear my favorite American song? Okay, I'm pretty dirty? Oh no,

the worse than sexual Healing? Uh? Put it down on me? Oh who's that? I'm not gonna sing it. I like the way I don't know what you yeah, I like the way you grind with Yeah, there we go. When I really thought this was a good idea, really started. Its Usually I can't just say something from the COOMBI at Kings and let's move on what I listened to. It's usually Nick that takes this show off, So I apologize for he did. He started all of that. That's true. Yeah,

and Jual Healing is a great song. It is a great so when you and your great song is what he just let us hear it. It's not his favorite. No, Well, I don't know. I mean, there's Drake and I love. I mean, I like Marvin gay Back Black all time favorites. So I don't know. That's too that's too intense for me. Okay, you started all this and you're not gonna give one. Oh, I know what you're gonna say, say it? What is it Amarillo by Morning or no, no juice? I was

gonna say. I would say, probably though, this is how we do it. This is how we do it. And I love that song. And I was in college. But when we got to meet him and I got to talk to him and asked him, what does this is how we do it? Really mean? And his answer was awesome. So I just I like it. He's just talking about it doesn't matter what you're doing whether you're singing songs, playing football, being on a show, whatever, here's the standard that you need to go buy. This is how we

do it. I like it. So I've always loved that song, honestly, Like having never heard a Long December by Counting Crows is like saying I've never heard this is how we do It by Montell Jordan, Like it's really yeah, it's on the same level. It's on a very similar has heard this is how we do it? Like, and she's thirteen, we should But that song that can't just play it to me has the greatest lyrics of all time, the

greatest rap lyric of all time. Right there? That that part right there, Well, Brenda has Got a Baby's pretty good too. But Brenda's got a Baby heard a Right, That's where the conversation is done. In the nine It's unbelievable, which is crazy. Yeah, you're so obsessed with the nineties you've never heard like one of the biggest hits of the nineties. That's crazy. Yeah, But I was listening to

up let's talk about let's talk about football. Let yeah, let's get back to it all right, so we h. I had a couple of questions I wanted to throw to you guys. I guess the big question that half of you guys is when you look at this team, and you guys have been on shows all week, so you kind of have a better idea of this than I do. But you look at this Raiders team offensively, defensively, special teams, what thing do you think is the biggest would be the biggest concern? Think you got from the

Cowboys standpoint as you faced this team. Let's start with you, Dave Um. The Raiders pass rush is really the only thing about their defense that worries me a whole bunch, and Marshawn Lynch is the only component of their offense that really scares me either, which I feel weird saying that, because I mean Derek Carr somewhere is he's a good quarterback. I mean he was in the MVP conversation. He's had his moments this year, but it just hasn't been there

this season for them. Their receivers are either gimpy or not good. We don't know if a Marie Cooper is going to play in this game. It's on I look at it, and other than Amari Cooper, who we established early in the week when you were actually here, is like he's one game away from having just like the most atrocious year, like he blew up against Kansas City

and other than that, it's nothing. And then you got Jared Cook and then there's nobody else on that Allen Crabtree has been a better receiver since he's been with Oakland and has moments when he's had really great games. Right, all he's just I mean, I know, I mean, as soon as you say it, then Lewis blew the hell up. As soon as I said I thought he was manageable. But like, there's nobody on this team. He's not Keena Keena. Now I'm not going in no, of course not. I'm

not going into this game just being like crab Tree, right, whoa, whoa? Hey, Like I just I don't see it. This has a feeling though, about that Falcons game, where you know you're like, what's wrong with the Falcons? What's wrong with Matt Ryan he's the MVP, what's wrong with car And then it's like yeah, and then here it is like playing at home,

there's nothing wrong with it. I just think those those breakdowns defensively, you know, they they happen every now and again, there's just and and Eli missed this guy in the first or second quarter there, I can't remember. They had one drive wide open. He just missed it. And you just don't expect these these guys to miss those. But but it's happening, and we're leaving these guys just wide open. And I will I mean, car doesn't take a lot of sacks. I think he said like twenty one on

the years. He's top he's top ten. Uh, It's I thought they were. I thought they were farther down in Sex anyway. But they have the line to protect him, which I mean, so you gotta cover well, you gotta cover longer. That's that's something worth watching. But honestly, I think if you can stop their running game, if you can keep Marshawn Lynch from blowing up, and I think

they can like he has. I mean, their golfense just has not lived up to the expectation that it had in the preseason obviously, and I think if you stop their run, I just don't see them being like I just don't see them putting up like thirty points. I just would be surprised by that. Amber. What could serge you moth most. I absolutely agree with Dave. I'm just glad that Shaun Lee and Anthony Hitchens are going to

be able to be on the field. Hopefully Shaun Lee there's no reoccurring trouble there with his hamstring that we are able to see him most of the time being on the field. And I really loved everything I saw from him last game, and it's absolutely amazing the way he plays and how he tackles and how he manages he controls the whole defense. So I'm just glad he's there because is my main concern would be mister Lynch all right, Nick, I don't know, never been a big,

like big fan of him, of his game. Really, No, not really, I mean, I mean, big strong running back. I don't know what it is. I mean, I don't think he's that great right now. I think they can bottle him up, I really do. I don't. He doesn't concern me as much as the other guys. You know, I kind of know what you're talking about because I'm kind of the same way. I think he's a volume runner, Like if you let if they keep giving him the ball, if they get in games where they can keep giving

him the ball. As the game goes on, he'll wear you down a little bit more like he reminds me of um Eddie George a little bit like Eddie George is not a kind of guy that you were afraid of him taking it eighty yards at the beginning of the game. Eddie George is just so big and so physical that as the game wore on, if they were still in a position where they could run it. If he gets the thirty carries in a game, or twenty eight carries in a game, good luck, you're probably not

gonna win that. Yeah. So that's the kind of back that Marshawn. So don't get me wrong, he's a really good running back. But I think it's a different like. You don't fear him the way you fear back in the day, the way you would have feared a Marshall fallk, you know, because it's just it's different kind of guys. It's not he's not that guy that necessarily just destroys you from start to fat. But you look at their offense, who from who else from their offense would you actually

think stands out more? Great point question? I still believe it, But that just because you're the best doesn't mean well, the question leading player from Yale, if you have to choose from the group, the question was what concerns you? Right, she doesn't get there. God, I remember that this is what concerns me, just from the offense or just overall. As I say at the beginning of the question offense defenses, I wasn't paying attention on um Khalil Mackal he's the best.

He's the best defensive player on the team. He's one of the best in the league. And you know, I the cat always have great tackles, there's no doubt about it, and they're playing well. But I think his versatility and what they do, and then the fact Bruce Irvans got a lot of sex on the other side. It's a pretty good one two punch, so he's obviously getting a lot of a lot of help on his side. Yeah, but I think and I Cowboys don't do that a

ton of then we give a lot of help. So I'm gonna be anxious to see where Khalil Mack is. He's the guy you guys have probably sit this early in the week when I wasn't here, but probably Lil Mack is. He typically on one side of the other or does he filip around. He's he's a right or left end primarily, He's gonna be primarily on Lyle's side. How do you feel about that matchup? I mean, it makes some money. I feel I feel good, but I mean Lyle, Lyle, I feel like he's earned the benefit

of the doubt. I think one it would be silly not to try to give him some help. I mean it would it would. I think it would be foolish just to be like, well, yeah he's got it, he's good. But I feel like he has earned some confidence. Lyle has no doubt about it. But all it, I mean, all it takes this one, you know what I mean. I mean, this could be the matchup. This is just not good for him for whatever reason, maybe like Max got a better first step, or he's more powerful than

other guys. You know. I thought it was really interesting. Actually I wrote I wrote a story about Lyle yesterday and was talking to him about it, and it makes sense. But he was just talking about, like, now, the biggest thing that he's had to learn this year is patience, because play and tackles so much different than being a guard, like and you watch Lyle Collins play like he wants to maul people, Like he just wants to come off

the line and destroy you. And you can't necessarily do that when you play tackle, Like you have to understand that they have to come through you, they have to get around you. And I mean, like, you know, even something as simple as just getting in the way might be what you have to do on a given play, Like it's not all just about demolishing the guy in front of you, which is what he got so used to as a guard. So he said he's learned a lot about that, you know, over the course of the season.

I think his direct quote was, it's a night and day difference from you know, September to now, which I think bears out when you watch play playing a lot better than people are talking about it, Like nobody's really talking about it because there's been so many other issues. Still getting tweets and emails from people that are like, they need to do this so that he can move

back to guard. I'm like, why they've made the transition. Yeah, they've made the transition at this point, and I'm excited to see where it goes from here, Like if they can get Zach's resigned to a deal, and you can keep this line together for another two years, you know, until somebody else comes up, and then you have to start wondering or tiring, gets to the point where you got to start winning. Whatever might happen. But for two years solid, if you got the same offensive line, whatever

happens at guard, I think you're whatever. Let's just assume whether he's here or whether they go out and have to get somebody else. If you got those four pieces altogether for there for a couple of years, I think you're really working with something. I really do. I agree with you. I agree as well. I think he's played very well. I think I love that answer about him learning how to play tackle, you know, different than guard. It's almost like full back to running back, where you

just attack mode, where you have to be patient. And you know, if anyone knows about being patient, here's a guy that was expected. I know y'all well talked about it yesterday on the show about where he would have gone if if he didn't have the incident. The top fifteen it was a non instant top ten, Yeah, and then then you getting undrafted. Now, I think he would have been drafted, had his agent didn't come out and say, do not draft us. We're not playing, I mean, don't

take us a sixth seventh round. Still can't believe that worked. I know, like once you get to like the fourth or fifth round and I'm just like, screw it. I mean, I'll take take a shot sixth round. Why not take a shot? Right? Exactly, Like six round picks don't make it through training camp every year because you can pay him whatever you want to pay him. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

I mean well, I mean even if but you know what, though, it's better for the k it was better for him to not because when you get drafted, they give you a rookie pool that it wouldn't have been that high for him to be like a fifth or sixth round pick. But can't you always go back and do a restructure on the deal, right? It can only restructure after three years. Third year, Well that's oh that is for draft picks. Yeah, no,

I mean it's just for draft picks. I mean, not if you can restructure like an undrafted guy or or something like that. Actually really smart what his agent did. Yeah, oh, but in fact he got away with the fact that it worked is I mean if he had, if they had gone through with their threat, he would have sat out for a whole year, wouldn't have been able to go back to college, would have just had to work out for a year and hope for the best the next year. That's not and I don't think he would

have done that. I really don't. They came out after the draft and we're like, we were bluffing, like they said that, especially if you have if he got drafted by team that actually he could see himself like he has an opportunity to get a job, you know, unbelievable play by him and his agent, unbelievable play by Jerry Jones and get him here. And it's I feel like it's unusual for stuff like that to pan out as

well as it has. But like it's I mean, it's been great because the money he got this year after his second year, they wouldn't have been able to do that if he was a fifth, sixth round pick, right, So it's worked out for everybody. Yeah, it was a big, big coup of the Cowboys to be able to secure his services. They just fell into the right spot at the right time, and then Jerry was able to close the deal, So salesman, here you go. Um, here's another

question I have for you, guys. Um, after what happened last week with Rod Smith and the number of yards and the way he played last week, do you think the Cowboys should consider the possibility of using him in a different role and not necessarily making him the primary back. I don't. They don't do that kind of stuff. But would you do more than just give him third down duties? Would you maybe get him in there starting in the I know usually they'll flip out in the third series

of the game, but would you do more? Would you maybe go two series for Morris, two series for Smith too, smooth series for Morris or something more like that to give him a little bit more of an opportunity. Yep, I think, I think a little bit, but but not you know. I mean, remember he went eighty one yards because the Giants really were just caught in a really

bad defense. I mean, I don't think he was out of the game right and I if he doesn't have that play right there, then I don't think we're talking all because his numbers are just totally inflated. That he made the play would give him credit there, But I would put him in there a little bit more. I mean, I think his more impressive plays were not that touchdown or even the second one. I think is the run that right before Beasley's play was great, the blitz pickup.

He's doing a lot. He just does a lot of things well. So for that reason, yes, I would play him a little bit more than Morris, But I I don't know how much more i'd like that rotation there. I agree with I like this rotation a lot better, though, I know, right how much? Do you also a factor

in that? If you look at kind of how things are going to go beyond this, you would think that Rod Smith probably has a better chance of being here longer term and I'm talking about next year, yeah, than maybe Alfred Morris getting him more opportunities because when Zeke comes back, his opportunity is going to be extremely limited. Would you want to give him more opportunities here because you think that there's promise and you want to kind

of just get him in more. I mean I would give yeah, I would give him more touches, and I would lean towards trying to have the carries split fairly evenly. But like, I don't I don't care about what it means for the future. I mean, what's you know, training camp next year, Like he's not going to be any better or worse because he got ten more carries in December, and I don't care about that. But I mean, he's under contract in twenty eighteen, he's I mean, so you

don't have to worry about that. And I think he's as it stands right now, he's probably not a hard guy to hold onto in the future. So I mean, I'm I said this earlier on one of our other platforms. I don't even remember which one at this point, but Zeke Rod and a draft pick is what I want the running back room to look like next year. That's

my And that's nothing against Alfred Morris. It's just smart football in my opinion, Like why whatever you have to give Alfred Morris, he's you know, he's nearing that thirty mark, which is bad for running backs. Younger younger, always younger. So and Rod has shown he has now delivered on that potential that we've talked so much about, Like you've seen that he can do it, even if the numbers are a little bit inflated. I feel good about his potential.

I think Alfred Moore is setting himself up for maybe another contract with a team I'd say like a Jacksonville or somebody, or maybe the Rams or somebody with a young back that's the star. Alfred has proven one thing he can he can sit back and and he you know, he doesn't he doesn't cause any issues or anything. He waits for his turn. He's been in the you know, ultimate professional and he's a good you know, he's been a good player. He surprised me a little bit with

with what he's been able to do. Um I said all along, I thought they should have gone with McFadden. I don't know if I was proven wrong, but but they know that in the in the practice so and and a lot of that had to do with Rod Smith. They wanted to get Rod and more involved. They thought he was more of a future. I don't know what position Rod Smith is, which is a good thing. What is he? I mean think he's not a running back or something other than a running back. I just don't

know what he really is. I mean, he's a he's a running back, but he's a gigantic running Yeah. But I remember remember back in the day they don't know this, but back now just dismissing us. Now you you have a maybe a shot Larry Centers. Yeah, yeah, from the Arizona Cardinals. Right now. The name sounds familiar, but I mean I don't I don't have I mean, he was a fullback, but he wasn't because he caught Pastor Anderson. Yeah, I mean it's something like that. It's fullback, running back.

I mean, I just don't know what he is. But you don't have to define it. Just put him out there and let him make plays, because because if you're having a hard time defining it, the other teams having a hard time figuring out who to put on him. See. But I don't I think he is clearly a tailback running back. I don't think he's a fullback. Clearly a tailback. When he goes out and has an eighty one yard pass where he dukes the safety and goes I mean,

that's a running back. That's a running backs due what well, I don't understand what you think. That's a receiver or you cam on a receiver. I don't know what he is. That's not a fullback for sure. So I think I think his his characteristics and what we've seen him do to me clearly puts him in the category of a running back. In my opinion, I don't think when they had to put him at fullback, I didn't think he was great there. No, So so I don't know. Yeah,

so I don't think. I don't. I don't think there's another position where he fits more than me until next week. Yeah, I don't think there's a better place for him than running back. I don't think it's receiver. I don't think it's fullback. I think running backs where he belongs. You know, I don't know. I mean, I hear what you're saying. I just don't think he's a traditional running back. Either doesn't matter. He's a good player. We just want the right kind of guy on the team. All right, let's

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I want to watch the game. You're like, unpack your stuff, get it out and get it. I gotta have room for this. That's a bad wife. So you don't have a bad wife. I have, damn. So you're saying I don't need a wife, I'm saying, got it? And you would be unpacked if you had one like you saying, but for different reasons. No, you just need a good wife. I'm working on it, all right. Let's keep that working. Are you that that? Just? This show is so off the rails, and it's spend a lot of December, and

as it's called the drought season. That's what stop some sexual now we do it. I just want to name all of the songs we had. I just want to talk about Cowboys football, all right. Then I'll get some questions in the numbers two one four eight seven two twenty one O two. Again it's two one four eight seven two twenty one O two. We have a phone call from Michael and Arizona. Michael, what up, Hey? What's going on? Happy Friday? Might Pete? Hey? What up? Hey? Man?

You know how Rod we're talking about Rob Smith like as a running back catching out of the backfield. What do you think, Bruce arians how he would you utilize him? You think he would utilize him like um David Johnson would like if we could, if the Cowboys could use him like called David Johnson is utilize down here? Thank you guys, all right, all right, thanks, I'd rather do that with Ezekiel Elliott than Rods. I mean, that's something

we're going all the way back to the offseason. Is you know, I wish the Cowboys would get their running backs more involved in the passing game, and we've seen what they can do. Is I would I believe the two longest receiving touchdowns of the season are both from running backs. Are they not Zeke and San Francisco and Rod in New York? Yeah, they have that type of ability. Rod has to do it. It's the longest reception of the season by any player in the league. There you go.

I mean there's only the four more guys that went. I mean there's some nineties. We're just worth mentioning that a six three running back got to the house on an And I know the Giants blitzed, but still like this is the NFL, Like you get caught and well, you know the other thing to think about here, and I don't know this for fact. I just I was talking to a guy that's an Ohio State guy, and he said, back when he was in college, he was

a four or five guy. Like this is not a guy that even though you think he's big, you don't consider him to be a speed guy, right, But this is a guy coming out of high school's very very highly recruited. I think he was a five star recruit and was a four or five runner, So this is not a slow running back. We were down on the field and I was it was on the other end coming toward us, and it got to about the thirty

yard line before I realized it was Rod Smith. I thought Noah Brown was taking it to the house when his first I just didn't. I've never really seen that play where the running back slants over the middle like that. I hadn't seen him do that, so I thought I was probably a receiver. I've seen it from plenty of other teams. Yeah, the Cowboys, which goes back to my point, do it more often, and I've seen the Saints do

it a lot, and they do that a lot. Those receivers, Terrence and Dez, they actually, I mean they helped with that. I mean they were down there, they were getting this was a personal protector. They were getting in the way dead. The reason that play worked is because Dez was bracketed, which you know, you go back and watch. We can say all you want about how Dez has struggled, but like defenses still pay attention to after that fifty years. If you notice after his touchdown in that game, they

started doubling him quite a bit more. You started seeing them put the safety just basically right on top of him, and so there were two guys just sitting on top of Dez for a lot of the rest of that game, which I think does open up open upout. But that's what we've been wanting from DESN. Make those kind of plays and force them to say. That's what g omb does. Forces the safety get off, brother, get off? Yeah, brother?

All right, buddy, let's get a question from Twitter. Other than the center and guards, what other ways of scheme wise are there to block the linebacker. The concern is the Raiders linebacker Bowman thinking that he's going to be a nightmare for the Cowboys. Yeah, you're talking beef, beef thirty one. It's beef thirty one, but he wears forty one. But yeah, you want to see more beef. Keith Smith, Yeah,

just sent him up there. And then that touchdown that Rod Smith had the run, I thought, I mean, there was a lot of good blocks on that play, but Keith Smith, I mean comes in who really blocked two guys. He's he can handle it. I mean what I can return. Guy, you gotta be crazy to play that position. You got to have a little bit of that in you. Yeah, he's kind of liked it, like he doesn't care. He doesn't need to throw his body out there. And I

think that's what makes him really good. That's really affective. I know the question said other than the Garden Center, but like Travis Frederick, that's what it is. Earned your contract. I'm not saying I mean he's a great player. I don't say it that way like he hasn't been darning it. But this is gonna be a tough one and go get him. Yep. All right, let's get a call from Nolan in California. Nolan, what up? Hey, what's up? Guys?

Thank you for taking my call. I just wanted to say a day two Amber, I've seen you out at training camp and you actually hooked me up with the T shirt on the sidelines, so I just wanted to appreciate that. Oh, no problem, you're welcomes. Yeah. My question is for this week, for this game against the Raiders. I know Marshawn Lynch, you know you guys have been

talking about him. We need to stop that run. Do you guys think that he's gonna be that effective or do you think it's just gonna be the old Raiders we've seen all year and play the way they've been playing. So I'm gonna hang up and listen. Thank you. You know when you're six and seven. It I don't know how they've been playing all year, and it sounds like they've They've played some games where they've played well, and then they struggle, and then there's just like the Cowboys

being How have the Cowboys been playing all year? It's some really good games or some bad games. So I don't know what that means. I know that he doesn't have a ton of he doesn't have a lot of one hundred yard games. I believe he just had his first one two weeks ago. But he has scored a touchdown in the last three games. He's I mean, it's starting to look more like Beasts mode than it did

earlier in the year. I worry like people are misconstruing what I'm saying, Like I don't think Marshawn Lynch is going to take over this game like the by the expectation that you have for him. He's not having this amazing season, like I think he's got one hundred and twenty five carries for something like six or seven hundred yards, like he's averaging like fifty a game. But I think he has the potential to do that if you don't

do your job right. And like I said, it's not so much that he just scares the crap out of me, but of the options on this offense, especially if a Marie Cooper's not playing, he's the one I'm worried about the most, and he's the one that I think can open up their offense for everything else. Like if if he's not having success, I think you can limit these Raider receivers. I just don't. They don't do a lot

for me. Yeah. I know this is not the answer that people want to hear, and quite frankly, it doesn't make for great radio when you do this, But in this instance, I think it's uniquely it makes the most sense when you're talking about these two teams in particular, to say we really don't know, and no one really does. Both these teams are so highly inconsistent this season that this could be a game where the Raiders offense gets off. This could be a game with the Raiders offense is

completely shut down. It could be a game with the Cowboys offense completely gets off, and it's a game with the Cowboys offense is completely shut down. So it both these teams have been jeckelan high through parts of the season, and I don't know that there's anybody that has a really good handle on which team is going to show up for which team this week. So I don't know that. I don't know that I feel really comfortable confident in saying that their offense will be great or their offense

will suck. You know, Like we said with Crabtree earlier, he's not a great receiver, But it wouldn't surprise me if he came in here and had several big catches and went over a hundred yards, that wouldn't surprise me. Just based upon what I've seen this season, that would surprise me. It wouldn't surprise me at all. I don't know,

I don't know. I hear what you're saying, though, these are the two most disappointing and inconsistent teams based on what the preseason expectations were in the league and the way they've played. Like I know, we've watched all these Cowboys games and it's just like you can't get a real handle on them. I can't can't get a real handle on when they're going to really show up and play great versus when they're not. That's where it becomes very difficult to try to And you've got two teams

like that in this instance, you just don't know. I just don't think it's hard. All right, let's take a let's take a quiet question from Twitter. Well, we've talked about being predictable before a while back. Do you guys think that the reason as to why wide receivers are not able to have the success they should be having is it because the offense has become too predictable for the opposing defenses? You know what, there's something to be said for the pro We do what we do, you know,

this is what we do. We go out there, we don't worry about the other team. We worry about ourselves. And there are teams with twenty members, you know, and they're coaching you know, staffs that that are looking at this kind of stuff, the quality control, and so yeah, I think there's something to be said for that that they are they when you kind of stick to your guns and you kind of focus on yourself, you get other people focusing on you as well. And I do

think that they are somewhat predictable. We sit in the press box and we we have a good idea of what some plays are going to be. We talked based on personnel, based off personnel, based off of just well this is going to be, you know, and Brian, we don't sit with Brian. I'm not sure Brian does it almost every other play. Yeah, so one thing, Well, there's other teams that are probably that can can see it too.

Have you guys noticed though, and we just talked about that one play to Rod Smith, there have been, it seems to me, in the last week or so, there have been some moments when it seems like they've tried some things that they haven't been used to, that they haven't done it customarily this season. Have you guys noticed the same thing or is that just like one play and otherwise they've just done basically the same thing. I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but like,

do you have an example? I mean, I thought of some other things last week I can't remember right off hand, but it seemed like there were a couple other plays that it was similar where they did something a little different than they normally would do. Oh was it the the catch by Beasley where they ran a M I can't remember. I can't remember. I'll need to go back and look. Lenahan's pretty reliable to add like two or three wrinkles to a game plan while keeping it largely familiar.

Maybe did they do like they faked the reverse? I think in this in this past game, maybe with Dez. Yeah, yes, it's you know, I mean they've run the play, just not necessarily. Those guys, they there's there's a two or three wrinkles every week, but like it looks familiar, and I mean that's their big thing. I think we talked about that a week or two ago. It's where it's like, well, are you committed to your identity or are you just stubborn?

And I think that that's a hard line to ride, And I agree with Nick that a lot of times they fall more on the stubborn side of things, which which I think it's been the narrative most of the season. I'm really more talking about in the last game or so have they Has there been anything else that made you kind of say, well, maybe they are trying something a little different. Maybe not nothing that, you know, a fleeing that really would work. Saw it last night. Nothing

that really jumped. Which it's funny because you know, and you know they made the play. It's awesome, it's great. Uh, you know, we haven't seen a lot of the past of the running back, like like Rod Smith was like, I never get that ball in practice. Like He's like, I was shocked. And if you go they did a miked up feature. Gary Brown was like, I think he asked Dak. He was like, why did you throw it to Rod? Like obviously it's good, but we like, that's crazy,

but it happened. What did you see? So even when they do something new, yeah, maybe not so much, you know, like Dak just did Yeah, Dak was like, I gotta do something here, right he is spitting the trash can and he made it and he knew he was on Is that right? Yeah? Did he say that I haven't

seen it? Yeah? He I thought this is everybody has seen this by now because it was on a Showtime miked up feature and all that he's sitting with Lenahan and he's got gum which is nasty, and he like spits it into the trash that don't know Nick anyways, but he makes it and he's like, I'm on, coach, I'm on it right in the track, you know. And of course lenahanded with his you know, with Lenahan personality, was like, oh, did you good? He's like, yeah, I'm on,

I'm hitting it today. I'm feeling good today. So okay, that was it? Cool. It's funny. The little thing I was gonna say, whatever, Well, what would have been interesting is is what if he would have missed? Does he go pick it up? Like the coke? Me out, coach? I don't know, me out, I'm feeling it. No. I remember I'm talking about last year when he when he got through something on the cup and he did he had to go pick it up. But are you gonna go, yeah,

you go pick up up. Definitely don't want to leave gum on the ground because somebody's gonna step on. Just just not chew it. He looks so bothered he does. I don't know why. I don't know. It's really there's so many other things that are more disgusting than that. Anyway, Amber. Oh, actually, we got another phone call. We got a call. I'm gonna tie in Georgia. Tye it, that's it, tie us up, Hey, ty Sorry, Hey, how y'all doing good? Are you? I just want to say I really enjoy your show and

appreciate all the hard work y'all put into it. Thank thank you. We appreciate you listening. All right. I've got a frustration and it's a question I hope y'all can answer. I get so frustrated when I hear people like Anthony Hitchens or DeMarcus Lawrence they're getting to a contract state and we've we've brought them up and they're great talent, and we know what they are, and then they tell us we can't afford them. What can we do to get to the point where we can afford them? Thanks,

and I'll hang up. Let's be clear, I've never heard the Cowboys. Well I shouldn't say never. There have been very few instances where the Cowboys couldn't afford a player that they really really want it. Yeah, And so when you hear anybody say well they can't afford them and they walk, then it's because the Cowboys didn't value them at whatever that amount was, that they were able to walk. That's a really good point, and I'm guilty of that. I say stuff like they can't afford him all the time,

and that's not really what I mean. What I mean is a guy like Anthony Hitchins, and this is this is spitballing. We I can't predict to a certainty how it's going to play out. But when you say they can't afford him, it means Anthony Hitchins is probably going to command a price that they're not willing to pay when you're thinking about the rest of your salary cap and thinking about where they value him with what else they have on the roster, and all I mean, they

could absolutely afford him. If if they were just hell been that Anthony Hitchins was going to be a cowboy for life, they could absolutely afford him. They could have afforded Barry Church. But Jacksonville comes in with thirty million guaranteed, and you look and say, well, we're not gonna be able to give Zach that extension. If we do that, We're not gonna be able to franchise somebody next year.

If we do that, it's all And that's that is the day of the NFL is allocating your salary cap, your top fifty one contracts, making it all makes sense not just for twenty eighteen, but for the four years beyond that. So they I mean, they could absolutely afford these guys. It's just a matter of what do you prioritize. That's why I think we would all agree one way or another. It's a foregone conclusion that DeMarcus Lawrence is on this team next year, whether he's tagged or extended.

If they let him go after Jerry's been talking about this war Daddy and talking about getting a pass rusher for for whatever amount of time they let him walk for whatever price, I think I would be shocked. Problem, I would be shocked. I'll be shocked if they don't resign Hitchens. Really yeah, really on the team. Thank you have to. I think Dave said it best yesterday or

two days ago. I guess you just can't. It was yesterday I was listening you said you just can't go win too next year with Shaun Lee and Jalen Smith. You can't do it well. But it hasn't given you anything to show that he can stay healthy all the time. Jalen Smith hasn't showed that he isn't ready to be the Jalen Smith he was in college. Anthony Hitchens, I think you need him, But wouldn't the draft be your your answer there? Rather than paying whenever that price it

was with Wilbur like it was with Damien and Wilson. No, you have to draft higher. You got to get a better quality player. So would you not? Would you not? Would you not invest the first round pick in a linebacker at this point? I think you got other issues. If I'm gonna do that, I'd rather resign. Anthony Hitchins, I hear it. It's it's gonna. I think the price matter than done. I get it. I think the price matters. Do it now? Okay, try now see what happened. I

don't know why he would do that either. Predictions. I think the Cowboys win by twenty twenty seventy seven. Oh, holy cow, Trent, seventy seven. This is their time, believe in it. That's what i's twenty four twenty. I do think they find a way to win. I don't know why. I just I mean, take your pick, neither one of you. I don't like you said. I don't know what to expect from either of these times. Okay, twenty seventeen Cowboys, some cool pick by a corner rookie, he'll score a

touch them, all right. I think Cowboys win thirty one twenty. I think they get back into the thirty. So, like I think offensively, the Cowboys are gonna I think they're gonna they're gonna figure it out against this defense, and I think they'll score some points. Um, I think they're gonna They're probably got more confidence than they've had in a long time offensively, uh with since certainly since Zeke has been out, I think they're starting to kind of

fill it offensively. So I don't think it. I just don't think this this run is over yet, and they may not make it to the playoffs, but I think the next few games are gonna matter, all right, they run away with it. I hope you're right. Appreciate you guys joining us. We will be back Monday. Monday will tell you what wouldn't right now? Who else is gonna be back day? Zeke will be back in the building. We'll definitely have some stuff around Zeke when he returns

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