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another edition of The Break. You are the host of the show. I know, so an important day for you. Yes, it is an important day for me. Butcher that so rude to the good bros out there of Omega sci Fi is wow out that absolutely so. I can do it. No, you can't do it. Don't do it. It's funny how there's a big difference between when Amber doesn't. Yeah, I do it. I say my idea that Nick has warned me not to ever do that in front of you.
I took a picture of Dave doing it at training camp on Thursday night one time, and then on Friday I showed Derek and he just like straight, just Rick Flair just punched you, yeah, backhanded in the chest, and you're like, what's that for? You like that picture and you oh yeah, yeah. Dave was kind of like, yeah, I deserve that. Well. I got a great reminder of what day it was because Keith Smith is in your illustrious fraternity. He was posting about it all over social
media today. I saw his picture from my assum of this this Probate show when he was kind of yeah, yeah, the facial expressions y'all do with It's great. Y'all are awesome, We are all right, Thank you guys for joining us. We got another great show for you. Guys lined up, we're gonna talk about cowboys. Get you ready for Cowboys versus Eagles? I guess you guys ready for cowboys? What
about it? Just one hand, No, don't play with me today, serious, hey, and this is a different that was a different night. I was gonna say, I remember you picked up a guy and body slammed him on a truck. But that wasn't because of that wasn't that we were just kind of playing around. Yeah, body slammed people all the time
when I'm just having fun. Yeah, except for the funny part was there's there was two people in the whole parking lot, and those two guys happened to be this guy's truck, and he was like, and we did Dennis truck too. That was I felt bad, Yeah, really bad, sorry in there because I wasn't the one body slamming or getting body slammed. I was just white observer. Why Jennithori and White like what they have to do with
anything providing context on texts. All right, let's talk about Cowboys versus Eagles before we do that, though, we do need to talk about some injuries. Um yesterday, pretty much the same guys that didn't practice on Wednesday didn't practice again yesterday, except for Dez Bryant, who was full yesterday, which we said in during the show yesterday, if he's you know, if he's gonna if hectices the next day, it really was just kind of a day for them to let him kind of heal a little bit more.
But Dan Bailey, Jeff he Sean Lee, Tyren Smith all did not practice due to their injuries. Of those four, do you expect that any of them will be ready to play comes Sunday? If any of them play, it'll be tyrant, and that's I think you can rule Dan out. I think you can rule Sean out. Who's the third one besides Jeff, I think you can rule Jeff out.
I think Xavier Woods is going to start at safety this week, and then that just leaves Tyrn, which keep an eye on practice today, and even if he doesn't practice, that's I mean, when you know Tyron Smith like that's that doesn't necessarily mean he won't play. I know there are reports out there yesterday that he was out, and he might be, but I think that's premature. I think today is going to have a lot to do with
how they feel about him. So what you're hearing is that it's not it's not a foregone conclusion that Tyrn's out at this point, as the reports are saying yesterday. It still is a we're waiting to see how he responds yesterday. In the end, again to the will find out about three o'clock today, because they'll you think they'll list him as out on a Friday if he I mean that they've never done that before ever. I don't think. I mean they ruled Tyron out on Saturday last week.
I guess talking about Tyranyo. Yes, no, but they kind of had to last week. I mean, once he's not on the plane, right, it's gonna filter out anyway. That was Saturday, Yeah, right, But I'm no, I think they they'll probably rule Dan out. They'll probably rule maybe they'll rule Jeff and Sean out. But Tyrn, I would be surprised if he's ruled one way or the other today.
I would think they'd want to hold that as tight as they could all the way up till game time, and that like usually I roll my eyes at that stuff, Like they know right now that Sean Lee's not gonna play, and they'll they'll list him as questionable today whatever. I don't think he'll play. I think they know he won't play, Tyrn. I legitimately believe that they'll try to hold that open as far as ninety minutes before kickoff. Like he's an
all pro, he's a tough guy. He can If there's anybody that can fight through it all the way up until when they have to rule him out, it's probably him. And there certainly is a chance that you give him today and tomorrow, and it is a night game on Sunday, right, you give him that amount of time, maybe he does start to respond to whatever you know, battery of treatment they're giving him and feels like maybe by Sunday night he's able to go. Who knows, But I agree with you.
I think you kind of wait and see rather than just closing the book on it. Today. He is a true wait and see. Like ninety percent of injuries, you kind of have an idea. But he's yeah, he's up in the air, all right. So let's run through inactive's really quickly. We've got Dan Bailey shan Lee. As you said you think that they're probably out. I would assume assume that's accurate. Jeff Heath, I would assume is accurate.
But in the event he wasn't with Cheeto Baby the guy that would again be inactive as he was last week. Or do you think at this point they're definitely gonna make him active? I think with I wonder because Wickery, Rod Marinelli and you gotta keep this stuff in mind too. Rob Marinelli said yesterday that Cheeto has been working at safety because that where they need the numbers. Right, So if Jeff can go, Cheeto hasn't been playing corner all week.
And I mean you know he could probably do it, but you've been prepping him to play safety, and so maybe he would be the guy that sits if Jeff can play. That's just a spitball from me, but it seems like it would make sense. Like you, I mean, and Ben Wicker, He's obviously been playing corner. Why would you throw a guy out there who hasn't been practicing at corner and who hasn't played in six weeks, you know, in a situation like that, if Jeff can go, but
I don't think Jeff will go. So I think Xavier Woods is your starting safety and Cheeto will be more of a safety in this game to help fill that loss. Okay, so then you've got Chaz Green or Tyron Smith. My assumption is that if Tyron is active, Chad's going to probably be the guy that finds himself being inactive, and I would assume that's probably gonna be the way that
it is the rest of the season. You guys agree, We'll see how Byron Bell plays, but yeah, probably, and then unless you have other injuries where you know, I think Chazz is like your backup tackle guard on game day. But yeah, I think for the most part, whoever this third tackle is is going to be inactive, so it looks like he's the third tackle now unless it's Tyron Smith, of course, so I would say Tying or Chazz like
you had it. You guys like the move of Byron Bell being the start of this week if they if reports are accurate, it's hard to argue against it. Like I mean, I don't feel great about it, but I do something. Yeah, you have to change, I don't. You just can't throw that out there again like that. And I think I said earlier in the week that that is much about the I'm sorry, Chazz probably can't play worse, but that doesn't mean he deserves a chance to prove
me right or wrong. You know, I mean does getting Chazz Like you said, you just can't roll that back out. Do you think that's also in part because just like we all saw it, the players saw it, and from a level of yeah, the players just knowing that, Look, you gotta step it up or you can't be out there. You have to make a move, if not for just the right move for your locker room. Yeah, the offense had no shot. They knew it. They talked about it. You talked about it on the bus going back to
the airport. I mean they're they're talking about it, you know, and how they couldn't function on offense at all. You have to make some kind of change, and you think that that's going to be better than him just working on his technique. I wonder, I hadn't really thought about that. But you know, during the season, our view of the team is so much more restricted. Like at camp, we get to watch practice from like eight feet away. You can hear the things they're saying to each other. You
can some of them pretty viold, right. Well, I mean, like it's normal at training camp if somebody's struggling, like you'll hear guys be like, get this bum off the field, get the next guy on here. And that's the Jason Witten words like yes, not no, that's hardcore dude. Well
and that's the nice way of saying it. Like I left out some words, but like I want, like I wonder if that's happening at practice here, like we don't get to see the real meat of practice and even the parts of practice we do get to see where one hundred two hundred feet away up in the stands, you know, So see I get the impression that does change when you get to the season, because when you're in a training camp, it's a lot of guys, A
lot of guys are gonna get cut. Almost half the guys out there are not going to be with the team. Then I kind of feel like personally, I feel like once you get to that fifty three, Yeah, it tightens in a lot more and there's a lot it's almost
us against the world. So you don't want to be rate him too much because you know he still has to go out there and play for your team on Sundays, right, And like training camp is all about training camp is all about trying to get better too, Whereas like, no, I mean, you're in you're in it, and there's not a whole lot you can do other than just hope for the best. But I wonder, like, I like, if he's struggling that bad in practice, I wonder what those conversations.
I think it's it's pretty evident. I mean, just go back. That's just the nature. It's not just the Cowboys, it's the nature of the league. I mean the safety a corner gets beat on a touchdown, he turns and points to the safety. The safety's pointing at him. I mean, it's not it's not my fault. Wasn't my ass on the line. The receivers are saying, well, I did my job, I ran my route. I mean, they're all they're all
in sea ya mode every time. So I think that they're all if they have a chance to point a finger at somebody else and or you know, change this or fix this so I can do my job. I think they do it. I don't think it matters if there's ninety on the roster of fifty three. Well, one of the things I've heard all week from different guys Jason Witten, Travis Frederick, Byron Bell talking about Evan Dak Prescott just talking about Chas Green, is that he needs
to work on his confidence. And that's the one word I keep hearing from everyone in regards to him. How much of that do you guys? Believe that it is his confidence and he just needs to improve in that area in order to be able to play better. That sounds good, but look like he's getting benched, so that's not going to help the confidence in going down. And yes, yesterday he said he's like, I'm a pretty confident guy. I know what I can do. I just need to
keep going out there and do better. I think that's the first step, right. I mean, if you don't have confidence, and everything else becomes kind of irrelevant, right, So I think that's yes, that's important. At the end of the day, though, even if you have confidence, if you don't have the skill, if you don't have the technique, you're just gonna be a confident guy keeps getting well. But sometimes confident can
get you in trouble. I mean, that's that's it can if you're like, okay, let's for instance, in this case, there he is out there, like I can get that guy. I can. I can get him, you know, he can line up way out there, but no problem because I can still. I did it in high school. I used to get that, you know. And then all of a sudden, the technique is lazy and he tries to get over there and his feet aren't quick enough. Then his confidence that he can block anybody or do anything can get
you in trouble. It's like that guy. It's like that guy at the bar that's confident that he can whip everyone's ass and he can't, and then he ends up on the ground, right because waking up three minutes later, right what happened. He was pretty confident though, and he let his mouth do the talking. Yeah, But I don't think the confidence in the definitely in the bar case. I don't think the confidence in the case of the
left tackle is what gets him in trouble. In that what got him in trouble is that he didn't have the technique to back it up. Confidence is fine, but if your technique is bad, if your skill is bad, then you're still not going to be good. And that's what I don't I don't think there's ever a problem
with having confidence. I think the problem becomes you just don't have the right technique of the right skill to be able to back up that kind like it's like Ryan Switzer thinking that he can get around the corner on a punt and just takes it wide and goes like eight yards back because he's confident that he's a better example, That's what I mean. Sometimes the confidence because you've done it before, but even though it was in high school on a Friday night and not here against
guys that are like now just doing others. That's kind of what I mean is that his confidence is that yeah, I know what I can do. It's like, well, you really haven't proven it. I don't know how you can still be confident in a situation like this. I gave up six sacks to one guy. I couldn't be confident. But he's got to get that back because even if he has a skill as a technique and has no confidence, then I think he's probably doomed to feel I think if you don't have often is, I don't think you
can be successful. I don't the next time. I think he plays as the preseason maybe and maybe rightfully so you can get it back then. Yeah, all right, let's let's finish out this list of inactives. I think Daniel Ross, Justin march Lillett, and Blake Jarwin are the three you
would guess. Do you think that because of there are two questions there, do you think that, with the linebacker situation as it is, that maybe Justin march lillet makes it to the active roster and or Blake Jarwin kind of the same thing you have right now, Um Swaying that's listed as question I mean not questionable, but when he's been limited in practice, do you think maybe that
pushes jarr went up to the active roster. I guess theoretically, um, you know, Jeff could could be downgraded today, but typically if you're practicing at the start of the week, that's a good sign that you're going to be available. So I assume it'll be Jarwin down. And yeah, the linebacker problems her, I mean that's something to consider. But you got Jalen, you got Durant, you got Hitch, you got Wilson wilbur I was gonna say, don't forget Wilbur So.
I mean that's still only five linebackers though, I mean, assuming Lee's gonna sit, but you need more. They've played with it. Yeah, And I also like, where else are you gonna get this other inactive from? I mean, you could maybe sit too defensive linemen. You're inactive Bailey Lee h I'm thinking I'm gonna be optimistic Green Heath, Ross,
march Lillard, and Jarlin. My only other idea, like, if you absolutely feel like you have to sit, I mean, if you absolutely feel like you need march Lillard up, you could sit Lewis Neil too if you wanted to, then you only go in. Actually Neil Neil might be the one that sits because again, going back to that conversation, you want a one technique like how many I mean, and and I think that was part of the problems last week. I mean, there's so many problems it's hard
to point too. You didn't have enough one technique. I don't know. I don't active like and he like the opportunities that he got. He was pretty good, which is why I think it would be weird if they sat him, but you got Richard ash And then I know MALIEK. Collins is playing one, but he's not like a true one technique, So and he has an injury right now Ross and well he's yeah, he's played through that for
three weeks. But still, I mean, yeah, Ross could be that guy if you absolutely feel like you need it. I don't think. I don't think the lack of true one technique as a as a in the Grand scheme, maybe that would help, but that I don't think that's why they lost it. I mean, if you needed a spot, you can always go with Noah Brown, you know, but
I don't like that idea. With Dez's knee being what it is though, I don't know, but I don't He's been on the injury report now often then he hasn't been the last few weeks, I know, I mean, and they're starting to. I mean, Noah Brown is in there as especially around the goal line. He's gonna get a touchdown at some point here. Is that gonna be your
bold prediction? He ain't go at all? That got another way, he really might in a game like this where it could be kind of high scoring and you kind of need some different kind of touchdowns, some different scoring options. I got a different I'm just trying to figure out that other prediction yet an offensive tackle, Sean Lee, Jeff Heath, Dan Bailey, Justin March, Lillard, Blake Jarwin, Daniel Ross, and
a defensive tackle. I'll say, yeah, I think that's probably that's where your in actors are probably gonna come from. All right, Um, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna ahead and take our break a little bit early. We're gonna come back. Amber has a game for us. See oh no, and we'll do then when we come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. It can be hard to find the right resource for learning about important
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break lick from the s WBC Mortgage studios. At the start, talking Cowboys versus Eagles, We've got a game of SEU know that we're about to play and then later in the show, we're gonna get some crazy predictions and predictions for the game, so it make sure you stay tuned for that. Amber. Okay, you guys ready Yep, Dallas goes back to scoring at least thirty points. See, Um, I'm
gonna I'm gonna go no on this one. I'm gonna go no. I am too, I'm gonna go no. If they win this game, they're gonna have to do it holding Philadelphia down a bit. I don't think they're gonna outscore Philadelphia. Part of my prediction. I can't. I can't, in good conscience, having watched them score a touchdown against Atlanta say that they're gonna put up thirty on one of the league's best defenses that is awesome at making people one dimensional. I'm not saying they can't win this game, right.
It won't be about outscoring the thirty points. I don't think so. Yeah. Okay, Mike Nugent does not miss any field goal or extra points see for no other reason than just belief. Now, see if he can hit four or five in the driving rain, and he probably feels bad about the one he missed on on days, Here's what you do with anything, does he'll be better, because he'll be better. Here's what I'm gonna say, no, is because like all those misses last year for extra points,
that's a mental thing. I was I was hoping that he stayed on a nice run of actually making makeable field goals. As soon as he misses one that's makable. Now I get worried because I wonder if it becomes a mental thing for him as the extra points were last year. He's becoming an iron man. He has hit it's the iron twice. Out of all that space, there's
like two small points that you probably shouldn't it. And anyway, all those guys that practice spend all this time throwing the ball forty yards to try to hit it and hit hit the upright and that's a cool little game. Yeah, he does it in the game twice. So I have to say, I'm I'm worried about where he goes from here. Maybe maybe he gets them back on a roll and
he's hitting them all I hope. So I just know that that was the part I was worried about with him coming in was that last year it seemed like there was a mental issue with him kicking those extra points, And I didn't want him to get into a rut like that here, and I saw him a little bit worried. One isn't a rut before we move You're right, but it does worry me a little bit. It should. Dan Bailey's the best kicker in the NFL. Like you, I mean,
you shouldn't feel good about it, but you never know. Yeah, what's that? Look? He is the best. Um, she's got a Dan Bailey poster at her desk. She's a fan. Oh I thought she's sucking about her her show today. Oh yeah, he is coming into the studio to playing no Moss. Okay, before we move on with the others, c no, no. This is a question from Twitter talking
about Mike Nugent. If he does not have a good, perfect game this time, do you guys expect any changes to happen if he had been while we wait for Dan Bailey. When you say changes, are they, I assume they're saying go out and get another kick if he has, If he hasn't missed like he did last week, it'll be something that gets talked about. Maybe even they'll bring some guys in for sure, Like do they care about
hurting his confidence. He's a temporary kicker anyway, Like he's a rent a kicker, like if he if he misses from thirty eight again, or if he misses an extra point or even has some ugly looking extra points. I would. But the problem is everybody is out there right now probably has the same warts, right Oh no, yeah, Like you're not gonna find Dan Bailey out there, but what like whatever, Like you're costing me games and I'm not invested in you, in you just gotta get rid of
you and try to know the guy. That's what happened, Like we don't We don't know about that life, or at least we haven't in recent years because Bailey's been they cannot know about that life exactly. So seeing that life, if you don't have a kicker, like it's not unusual for this stuff to happen multiple times in the seasons, just so I would. Yeah, Okay, Cowboys hold the Eagles under one hundred and fifty yards rushing without Lee on the field, under one hundred and fifty yards rushing. No,
they're averaging that they're average in the two games. Lead was out against Saint Louis and Green Bay was one sixty four. They gave up one sixty and one sixty eight in those games. You can say what you want about Ty Gurley. The Packers are not a good running team. They're not, and they ran for one sixty. The Eagles are a good running team, like they got great backs and a decent line and a quarterback who can keep
defenses honest, I want to say see. And the reason why I want to say see is because I think that I think that their issues when Lee was off the field, I think were more related to the fact that Jalen had to be on the field. I don't expect Jalen to be on the field as much as he's been on the field in those games, and I so and so because of that, I want to say that I think there are other parts of this defense that are really good. And I think those parts with
a good veteran linebacker like Justin Durant. I'm not saying great now, He's not Sean Lee, but a good veteran linebacker taking those snaps versus Jalen taking those snaps, I feel a lot better about that. So I think they can play much better than giving up one hundred and fifty yards rushing. So I'm gonna say, see on it, Nick, see Nicks just like see seeing. No kind of forgot the question. They need hit one hundred and fifty yards. Yeah,
one hundred fifty Cowboys, they won't get there. They won't get it. They need hit yards. They need hitch to have the game of his life. They do, Okay, Dak will throw over two hundred and fifty yards see see see as easy Cowboys. Defense will force at least two turnovers. They gonna win. If they're gonna win, they're gonna need they will force two turnovers. I'm not sure it'll be the defense getting both special teams. Special teams will get one. But yeah, I see two turnovers. Um how many two
takeaway games? And they did it against Washington, and they did against San Francisco. That did they do it against? Um? What was the third win? And they know they got one against Kansas City. One thing I do think I remembered seeing you may have seen the step WinCE has had seven fumbles. I don't know that they're all lost, but seven fumbles I think that I don't know that off the top of my head. I need to go
back and look that up. I want to say, I saw that he has seven fumbles this year, which that helps because you and I think it was the defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli. I think he said an interview earlier this week also he talked about the fact that it's facing a quarterback like this, actually you have a better shot of getting the ball out of his hand than you do taking him down because he's so big and strong.
And you look at these defensive ends that the Cowboys have, you look at what David Irving has been able to do. That's one thing that they seemed pretty proficient is getting to the quarterback. They've gotten some strip sacks this year, so I think that may be a good opportunity for them, is if you can get there, you can get the ball out of his hand. That's better than than taking him down last year and right in front of us on a sack. Unbelievable that it didn't and he couldn't
he couldn't get the ball out. And of course those defensive linemen are stronger than Scandred, much bigger, much stronger. Yeah, I'll say, I'll say, see, I don't like Xavier Woods is out there. He's a future Hall of Famer. Uh, defensive line. Yeah, you get some pressure. He's getting ready for the hall. See all right, See okay, Darren my fat and plays and comes out of that game with everyone positively talking about him. No, no, everyone, no, no,
he'll play that nick no one rush. You can have one hundred and fifty yards and Rod Smith's not gonna positively be talking. You know what. Um, I don't think he's gonna get a lot of playing time. He's gonna play. Yeah, he'll make a difference. Well, I'm gonna make a difference. I don't know he's gonna play better than he's I mean he'll do something. He'll do some positive things. Two carries for two yards instead of one for Yeah, that's im provement. No, no, it'll be fine. He'll be the
best running back of the three. Oh wow, that's of this group. Still, this ragtag group of guys. They got out there, still gave him one game. They don't like him. Okay, but what you're saying, what you're saying, assuming that this week they've decided and they do like him and they're gonna give him more opportunity. He's just I don't see that he'll be he'll be the best of the three, Okay, all right, bold was not really it'd be bold if he was playing with me with Zeke out there, But like,
who is the best? I'm not even arguing with you, Like, Okay, if you want to argue that Darren McFadden is the most talented of the three, that's fine. I'm just thinking about like the coaching staff has to put him out there right right. Last week they decided to put him out there for one play. It was a negative yard, and they're like, okay, dar back, back back, Okay. So I just don't see, if he's out there, how's a
good run? They put him back in? They should? I mean, of course that you say that once Alfred Morris finally got it going last week, I didn't get so I don't. I don't know what they're trying to do. I don't know what they view as good running bags and good stats and all that. I don't know. I think he'll play fairly well. I mean they're having to figure it out, that's I mean, if you want to be fair about it, they're having to figure this out there. They are used
to Zeke for the last year and a half. They throw one guy out there I'm buying it, and like you don't think you have to figure out kind of what each guy's role is gonna be and not a simple their head for ten months figure that out in practice. You don't know how the guy's gonna run to you
get him into live action. You know, they don't hit, they don't tackle, like, you don't know what it's going to be like until you get him into live action and start seeing how's this guy gonna perform in these situations. I think a lot of people in this building believe Rod Smith was going to have a breakout game last week. Guess what he did not. So I'm just saying, like they have to figure this thing out. Maybe we should be talking less about their rushing attack and talking more
about rushing a dak. You know what I mean? You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, I see what you did. I think he's gonna lead the team again because he's gonna leave all the stretch. But crappy Joe, Okay, thank you say if all the crappy jokes the kids got these drops for over here, you don't understand the joy I felt in my heart when I realized that joke was on the table so that's fine. How long did you sit there with that thirty forty seconds and you
were just like it was like, stop talking, Derek stopped talking. Derek, let me say my joke. Yeah, it's fine. I'm happy. That's just pitiful. I'm happy about it. It's pitiful. I'm happy about it. All right. Next question. All right, this one kind of ties up to while we were talking about, Well it does tied up. Eagles run defense give up most rushing yards of all season against the Cowboys. No, I don't know that number as a team. I know they gave up to an individual rusher, Kareem Hunt, I
think has the highest number at eighty one. I want to say it is. So they're probably over one hundred a little bit. They will probably right in one hundred. I bet they'll get They'll flirt with a hundred as a team if I had to guess, yeah, oh god, that's almost double what they're allowing. Though they'll be okay, eighty eighty as a team. I don't know, so you don't think they get over They'll get a hundred. As
a team. They'll get a hundred, that's my prediction. Dak will have to get fifty then I'm yeah, I'm gonna Switcher is gonna get twenty three on a reverse, reverse and fumble and then Switzer not done bar fair point. That was mean, fair point. He's ld, he's hurt for the Rams. You miss him. Yeah, he's a nice guy. No, you miss him on the field. Not really, all right? I miss him in the locker rooms. That's fine, I'm saying, like, nice guy. Yeah, he's right, But I don't they miss
walking around. Man, I'm tired today, lands come on, quit telling me you're tired. Stop it. Okay. If the Coboys lose this game, is their season over? No. I wrote extensively about that last night. I really I don't. I don't see this as like a must have game. And I know it's in the division, and I know it's in it affects your conference record, which is important for
wildcard purposes. But five and five with six games to play, three really manageable opponents coming up after this, Yeah, I mean and and two of those are also division games. Let's okay, this is what I wrote last night. You don't have to win this game, but if you don't win it, you absolutely have to win all three of
the next ones. You have to beat the Chargers, the Redskins, and the Giants to make up for losing to this and if you do that, if you do that, you're eight and five with a three and one record, No four and one record in the division, because that would just leave the the Eagles. At the end, you'd be four and one in the division, eight and five overall. I'm not saying that it gets you into the playoffs, but it puts you in a pretty good heading in
in the final. But that at that point, though you're four and one record in the division, that doesn't really help you. No not. I mean you're not gonna win the that's this game is only must win if winning in the division is still a goal of yours, which for me, I put that to bed. That's not happening. Well, I'll say this, if they lose this week, I don't I don't just say they gotta win the next year.
I think they have to win out in order to get in the playoffs, because I think at that point you lose this game, I think tie breaks are pretty much done for you. I don't think you're gonna win very many tie breaks with the teams that are right there in the mix or above you, and so you're gonna have to I think ten and six is going to be that break point of here's where your tie breaks are going to come into play. So I think you have to be eleven and five if you're not
gonna be in the tie breaks scenario. And that I think means again, if you lose this week, that means you gotta win out and work you're ten and six with Seattle. I mean your point is well made, and I think ten and six will get you in. It might not. I think if you lose this week, I don't think ten and six gets you in. But see, here's here's the thing. And like I said, like your logic is there. I've run the simulations on the playoff predictors. There's a very good chance you could finish ten and
six and not make the playoffs. But there's still almost half the season left. Like you're looking at it thinking, well, Caroline is not gonna lose again, the Saints aren't gonna lose again. Nobody else is gonna get hurt. Like ten and six might not get you into the playoffs if nothing else happens to twist the season and the odds
that that happens with seven weeks left, they're slim. But you're also assuming then if you're saying that, then nothing else happens to the Cowboys too, all right, what I'm saying, what I'm saying is everything being that every team's gonna have turbulence or whatever, and if everybody stays on a similar trajectory or has a little dip up or down, the Cowboys are still in a position where those teams are like, right now there are what there are six, seven, eight, nine,
There are nine teams above the Cowboys right now. You lose this game, you're not getting tie breaks at that point, like you're not You're not getting tie breaks unless you win out. This game doesn't matter to tie breaks. It does when you start looking at the conference record, Yes, four and four, yet and head to head, you've already lost the two of the teams that are in that mix. So all but again again going back to that point,
and obviously you can't predict what's gonna happen. What's gonna happen. I hear what you're saying, But like Atlanta still has two games against the Saints, absolutely still have a game against the Panthers, absolute, Panthers and Saints still have to play. The Seahawks haven't played the Rams again, like there's so much stuff that is yet to happen. My only point is if you're sitting at five and five, you can't
rule this. You like the season, that's all right. All I'm saying is you're saying that, yes, they will be they will they will lose some games. These teams are not gonna win out absolutely, But that's also my point is not only not gonna win out, like a couple of them are probably about to have losing the Stan.
Let me finish the point. I think what you're missing though, is that that's why I'm saying the Cowboys have to win out, because if the Cowboys keep winning and losing some games, just like all those other teams are gonna win and lose some games, they're gonna be right there where they are right now, with nine teams ahead of them. That's my point. It's too early in the season to say ten and six won't get you and in the playoffs.
That's really the only point I'm trying to make, and it's a very real possibility that that happens, But you just can't assume that right now. You just can't. There's too many things again you have to happen. There is
no there's no assumption happening. I'm saying just in my opinion, if you don't win out, I think it's gonna be extremely difficult to get in based upon the guys they are ahead of you, the teams ahead of you right now, and knowing that they're gonna win some, you're gonna lose something, win and lose some. Two. I will say, like, if you don't beat the Eagles, you're out of breathing room, like you're at like, like I said, you have to
win the next three. You probably have to beat the Raiders like you really your margin for error goes away if you don't win this game. Can I ask a question here? Yeah, it's two thousand and two. This is when they realigned it to eight four team divisions. Thirty five teams have finished ten and six. How many of those do you think have made the playoffs? I would guess thirty three, I would guess twenty three. I know the same. The Bucks missed the playoffs at ten and six,
thirty thirty out of thirty five thirty five. And this has since win this is two thousand and two when the current format, Yeah, like the way they do it right now. I mean that's I didn't really know what to expect there. I thought I didn't think it'd be as high as that would be, like twenty twenties five or twenty six out of it. I know the Bucks, the Bucks missed at ten and six a while back. Um, Patriots famously missed, which is unbelievable. Castles the quarterback. That's
a bat. That's that's the worst kind of season where you go eleven to five and you're sitting at home. The Falcons win eleven sweek five last year and they
were the two seed and made the Super Bowl. That's crazy, Um, and especially when after they did that with their backup quarterback, it's it's un Yeah, it's unusual for ten and six to not be good enough to get you into the play, which is what Like, I can't sit here and say it's gonna happen, But I'm just not going to be surprised if we see some balancing out like I just will,
we'll see. I agree with Dave on that one. And you know, if you do go ten and six, I say you lose the Eagles and you go ten and six. You need Oakland or San Diego to be that loss for sure. Yeah, you can't lose. You definitely can't lose any more NFC games. Yeah, I mean, I just I think, no, this is this is to me, this is as dire a game as you've had this season so far. So yeah, that's how it goes as you move along. The Chargers game is that game for me? Like this, it's an
AFC game. You can but you do need to get the wins though you don't have any time. Yes, I get that, but if you have to choose between Eagles and and Chargers, Eagles is way more important than Charges. Yeah, but you're not going to win the Eagles game, so so you're already basically that's the point here is that you've already concede it. You're not winning this weekend. I mean, anything is possible, but how can how could I pick the Cowboys to win this game based on what we
know right now? Other than hope really like yap, present me with the logical argument why it makes sense and I'll go along with you anyway? Sorry? All right? So what was it C or not? No? This is not a must win game. Yes see all right, Cowboys, oh line does not give up more than two sacks if Tyrant is not playing, if he's not playing, if he's not playing, they they don't or they do give up
two or more. Don't give up more than two. No, you know, I will say this like it's so like you want to be like, oh no, they're gonna get killed, but like it's NFL football, like they all game they have game planned away around this and then they'll play better. Like I would be stunned if you see another eight sack day. But yes, I agree with that. I think I think two, but I'm thinking three four yea two yeah, so I don't think it's under two. If Tyrant plays,
it's big donut. Though you think so zero, I still think yes. I mean if Cox or somebody like you're getting through and they'll get probably they'll get a couple. I mean I think no matter if you're if your offensive line was at full strength without Zeke, I think you still give up a couple of sacks. Probably. Yeah, this is without not any fun. All right, Cowboys. Wide receivers do not drop any major what do you call like important player? All every single one of them is
critical at this point, isn't it. It really is a mate, like not necessarily, I mean yes, say all right, but first down slant in the first quarter would would have been seven yards. That's not a hip. You're already down by fourteen, Okay, But I'm just saying. I'm just saying
early in the game though. Now there's a difference between like game changing since I got I started covering football, though, like I've really you know, Garrett talks about this all the time, Nick does it too, Like it's so true though, like you're just watching as a fan, and I'm not saying fans aren't capable of seeing this, but you're just watching, drinking a beer, talking to your friends. There's like sixty or seventy plays, you know, like they don't all seem
that important, you know. But then like when you break it down, when you're watching the game and looking at the box score, you're like, you get nine possessions a game, some of them only lasts like three or four plays, Like a drop in the first it's huge, Like maybe it's at the thirty five. Maybe that's the difference between pinning them on their one at the punt or giving them the ball on the thirty five, or maybe it's a difference between points and not like any drop in
a pro football game is a big deal. It is the reason why I love that article that Nick does, the five plays that you missed, because there are plays like that that nobody thinks about that matters so much in the game. But they're because they're not at the big moments. People forget. And I get a lot of help from fans, like on Twitter, every time somebody drops a pass or turnover or penalty or something. Five plays.
Put that in. Put that in your article. And what I think fans forget sometime is, yeah, a key drop over the middle that would have been a touchdown, Like, I'll put that in, and then they don't realize that they just marched, you know, ten plays in a row, finished, the drive still scored. Nothing really changed. It's it doesn't It didn't affect it like you think it did. So but sometimes okay, So the answer the question, will there
be a drop? No drops, No drops, game changing, game changing drop, no drops this week, because the passion game is gonna have to have it. Yeah, I don't see any game gonna be clicking you see des going off this week. Did y'all watch Antonio Brown last night? Yeah, oh my god, ten for one forty four. You see his catch, he had like a Dez catch. Yeah, yeah, I had him in both fantasy leagues. That you're such a loser, I do. You can't just appreciate beautiful thing
football for the sake. Hey, you can do both. You can do both. If you were playing against Antonio Brown like that, you could be like Brown. No, I would have thrown something at my crap and as soon as somebody brought it up, I would have probably punched him. So unless you had him on your fantasy yeah is yes, I do have him off fantasy and that you have him, yes, yeah,
on both teams. Yeah, so it's good night. What are you gonna say if Dez is gonna would be a nice night for him to remind everybody that he's pretty good. That's my point, Like, we haven't seen when's the last time we saw that kind of game from Daz where it's just like this year man was just killing like everyone play after play, you know, Green Bay be nice? Yeah, use it, yep. Yeah, he does play well against the Eagles traditionally. Denny and that one of the teams he
usually has me Bradley. Now, Bradley Fletcher, where are you, Bradley Fletcher? Come back? That makes sense. It all makes sense now, yeah, I'd forgotten about him. Yeah, okay, all right, let's go and take our final break. When we come back, let's get some questions. Two one four eight seven two twenty one on two is our number again, It's two one four eight seven two twenty one O two And you can also hit us on Twitter at Cowboys Break.
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for that read. Appreciate you man. You don't know how much I'm holding back. But let's get never hold back, Amber always go all in great something I live by, get hr calling me to their office. Now, thanks, all right, all right, let's get some Uh what what are you doing? Nick? I was just pointing there's witten. Oh yeah, thank you. Um, let's get some questions the numbers two, one, four, eight seven two twenty one h two. We got a call from Joe and Maryland. Joe, what up? How's it going? Guys?
Firstance wanted to say thank you for educating us on sometime annoying fans, especially I'm one of them on Twitter. Um. I My question was, um, says Brian, So if he continues down this road, what do you guys think we could possibly get for him? I say the Cowboys would have trade him. Do you think we could get as low as a third or fourth or in? My second thing I wanted to say is it's more of a
statement for everyone calling in asking about Dak Prescott. I think they should be thankful that we landed a special kid. And as long as we have number four suiting up on Sunday, I will never count this team out. I don't care if we're playing in New England Patriots sixteen games. Thank you, guys. I'll listen, all right. Thanks he Paul, He's absolutely right about that. With a quarterback, if you got a quarterback in this league, you got a shot every single week. If you don't, then you don't be
happy that you have a quarterback. Yeah, and I think you know, we talked about it after the game, and I know Jason Garrett actually agreed with it. But but it's games like you know, built parcelves. Just say it all the time, Games like that Bronco one back in Week two where you know, even though the score was it was ugly, it was an ugly game from start to finish, though, but he showed his team, he showed his coaches, he showed his fan base, you know, kind
of he's not giving up. I mean, he's not gonna stop. Um. You know, the question the other day to Garrett, why why was he still in the game, you know, and he said, it's a sixty minute game. I mean, Dak Prescott is still gonna play. I mean, in fact, I remember looking at him wondering if he was going in. It was like forty seconds to go in the game, and he's like clapping his hands like I got two more throws, and like Nick was like, why is he clapping right now? Not not in a bad way, but no,
Nick I even said it that way. I was actually surprised. But that's that's what he is. He's gonna keep going. And and he said it in his press conference. You know, he doesn't necessarily pay attention to what the score is at at the moment. Like every play it said, brand new play, and you just trying to keep your focus and scoring and keep going competing. Yeah. So yeah, he put the team on his back. He actually I he said that earlier this week. First of all, it's one
of the best videos ever. Thank you Kendeo. It's the Greg Jennings Madden video. If you've seen it. If you haven't seen it, I'll show that was ray Lewis talking though, right, No, that was a dude playing Madden on his TV. I'll show it to you. I can't believe you've never seen it. It's hilarious. He had like I love Dak. He's great, he's a competitor, he's playing awesome. He has not, I think, really had a game where he truly put the team
on his back. And I mean most of that's because Ezekiel Elliott has been there beside him for the vast majority of his career. I mean, even you can think back to the playoff game, you can think back to the Steelers game. In all those instances, he still had
Zeke carrying a huge proportion of that workload. And I think if they're gonna beat the Eagles, it's going to be because he puts the team on his back and literally runs for fifty yards in a touchdown and throws for another three hundred or something like He's I think this will have to be the best game of his career if they're gonna You think he's capable at this point where he is in this development, Yes, I mean I said yesterday, he's He's not fully developed as a
polished passer who can manipulate defenses. But between his athleticism, his strength, and his accuracy, his good decision making all that stuff, he's capable of doing that, even if he's not a finished product as a purer passer. Do you think they need to change up the offensive bit? And what I mean by that do a lot more of the zone reads and stuff like that that can really utilize those skills that you just talked about. Is that change?
Is that changing up the offense? I mean that stuff's there, No, No, No. What I mean by that is changing up the amount of times that they will use that. Like in a game, they may use zone read once or twice, like this is not a regular part of their offense. Do you think that maybe in a game like this that is a game that's important. I know you say it's not at all, but it's a very important. But this one
is a very important game. But in a game like that, do you think that, especially when you've got so many different parts, do you think that maybe it's time to kind of change a proportion with which you do certain things to maybe utilize him a little more in the things that he does really well that are unique gills for him. If anything needs well, whatever you need to change to fix your protection, that's first. And so if
Tyron's could help. If Tyron's not playing, then I imagine the offense will look different to help account for that, Like we talked about yesterday, more tight ends. I would run some more play action a lot like what we talked about the Eagles do with wins, like get him on the move at the outset of the play, especially if Tyron's not playing, take protection out of it and just have him moving away from the faults and the protection to begin with. You know, some of that stuff
we've it's it's not new stuff. It's not like it's not there. But the waggles and the boots and the tight end actions and the you know, get a guy moving underneath to kind of like an easy outlet and things like that. So none of it's new stuff that we haven't seen before, but it's stuff that maybe you haven't seen as much of this season that I think they could go back to to help him out. For sure, Um, did you have anything? Well not. I mean one thing I think they can do to help him and is
get the book. You don't have to wait until you know it's right before the half or you're down by three touchdowns to get Jason Witten involved. I mean, I think that's the easiest throw there is. I think it's one that's always there and it moves the chains. I mean, it may not be the most exciting play in football, but it definitely moves, you know, anything that flips it over to one for that chain guy over there. That's
good play. Let's let's keep it rolling. And I think that they need to do that more, and that'll be part of my crazy prediction this week. I just I feel guilty because we didn't actually answer the caller's real question. Des is like he hasn't been having a great season, he's getting older. I get all that. The odds of dealing a contract like that are slim and not like, I don't think I think you could get a third round pick for Dez if it didn't and if it
didn't entail taking on that contract. But it does. But even even with all that's being said that people are saying about Dez, I still I am not ready to see this team without No. I had a long conversation about this because I listed somebody asked me for my biggest draft needs and I said, receiver was somewhere around number five and they said, you know, I think it's more like number one. And I was like, I get
what you're saying. The receivers have been underwhelming, but if everything else is working the way it's supposed to, if your defense is better, you can win with these receivers you have, Like this was the same crew that with thirteen and three. No, you're probably missing like a dynamic playmaker. Dez doesn't look like the guy he used to be. But if Ezekiel Elliott's here and the defense is good and all that stuff's working the way it's supposed to,
I don't think you need that. And I don't think they want to play that way in the first place. So I do view wide receivers something they need to think about. I don't think it's something that immediately needs to happen, like people are suggesting trading or cutting or restructuring Dez. I'd be legitimately surprised to see any of that type of stuff happen in twenty eighteen, right. I think those are conversations you start having in twenty nineteen
and beyond him and Terrence both. I think it's easier to get away from those deals after the twenty eighteen season if you still still feel like you want to. But I wouldn't. I don't think you need to do anything drastic with any of those guys, and I don't
think they will. And also you have to remember too, whenever whoever writes and though somebody will put it out there and they'll put the figure of how much the Cowboys will save if they cut him, I think it's around eight million maybe, and then you could be twelve
million if you did it after June first. Just remember this that you have to factor in what do they do, like they gotta get somebody, Yeah, and so it won't be they won't save that much because they're gonna have to go in free agency and get some guy that's probably underperforming. Then you have to go and you spend a high draft picked on it as well. So and that's you have to he has to be replaced. If you're gonna take him off the books, fine, but you
better put somebody one or two guys on there. And well, the conversation I had, and this was somebody who knows what he's talking about, that I was having this conversation with it. He was like, I was like, well, what do you do if you get rid of him, We'll
go draft his replacement. I'm like, if you're like, wouldn't you rather spend the you know, a first or second round draft pick on the position that really needs it, like safety or linebacker or wherever you want to spend it, you're creating a problem for yourself that you don't have to answer right now by taking Daz off this team. Like, sure, okay, he has not been as good as what we remember when he signed that extension, but he's still a perfectly good,
functioning top option at wide receiver. And you're creating a problem that you don't have by trying to take him off the team, and like those who say you want to just go out and just draft that receiver, the problem. The likelihood of a receiver coming in as a rookie and being placed in the number one position and being successful in the first year of first two years is probably relatively well. And then that's another year of you not addressing your exactly problems, which that fans have been
complaining about forever. When you're not gonna get any relief, where's our problem? On top of the fact you're not addressing the other needs, would have a chance if he went somewhere else, he'd have a chance to have a Randy Moss like effect for another team, because what can happen is is that, okay, he's not performing like a number one guy, that he's getting paid. So then let's say he gets a new contract, goes to another team, gets paid like a number two. He won't be performing
like a number two. Though he'll be performing. You put pair him up with someone else it was a great quarterback, he'll be performing, you know, unbelievably, and then you're like, dang, why'd you let him go? So it's one of those things he's not a bad player at all he's having. He probably has a bad contract for what he's doing. And wide receiver is a spot that troubles me in the long term. But twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen, that's not something that I think you need to spend drastic
not the way you play like. That's not That's not the way they want to play as having receivers that are gonna every week be putting up huge numbers. It's just not what they do. All right, let's ahead and get into our our final part here. Let's find out what our predictions are for this game. We're gonna start with you Amber, give me your prediction for the game. I think that everything really points to the Eagles winning this game, but I will call it. Feeling pretty positive
and just in a good mood, so I'm gonna go. Um. You know, you never know how well. The NFL is very unpredictable, and when you think you are supposed to win a game, you don't. So that I think that could happen this weekend. The Cowboys could win this game. Twenty three twenty one. I read a quote this morning, diamonds are created under pressure. I think Dak will be a Diamond this weekend. He's gonna have a great game. What a line. Uh, there we go. That's it. That's
all I have to say. Oh, it sounds like a good Hey. I agree with Amber in the sense that I think I think Dak is going to do his best Superman impression on Sunday. He has to. I mean, the Eagle secondary isn't good. Their run defense is so not only can he take advantage of the run defense in the misdirection sense and the scrambling sense, but also just throwing. Like I think he's going to have his first three hundred yard game of the season again more because he has to. But I just I don't I
don't think it's I don't think it's enough. I mean, I mean, we don't know if Tyrant's gonna play. We know Sean Lee's probably not gonna play. I think the world of Xavier Woods. But that you know, you got a rookie in your secondary as well, Um, you're missing your Pro Bowl kicker. And this is this is probably the most complete team in the league, or has been at least to this point in the year. Um, I think they're gonna have a hard time running the ball.
Which is not a recipe for success that we've seen. I think they're gonna have a hard time stopping the run without Lee, which again is a recipe for disaster. Um, so it'll be close, like it's a division game. The Cowboys are a good team, but I think they're just fighting against too much stuff right now. I'm thinking twenty eight, twenty four Eagles, something like that, thirty one thirty Eagles. Whitten has ten catches? Damn how many? But how many catches does he have by the time you get to
the final two drives of the game. I don't care. He's gonna have ten catches, all right. Um. I actually think this is one of those weeks. I agree with you, and I think things happen in the NFL that you don't expect, and I think that's this is the right recipe. However, I just I have a hard time at this point seeing anything that I can look at and say, yeah, that's how they can win this game. And it's mainly because the guys that they have missing. I think both
these teams are full strength. Even give phillyback the guys that they've lost, both these teams are full strength. I still think the Cowboys are the better team. I think with the injuries the Cowboys have specifically right now and the suspension that they have, I think it takes away too much of the best of what they do. I think it's the best of what they do defensively, it's the best of what they do offensively, both on the line and the guy in the backfield. So I just
don't see a scenario of how they do it. Doesn't mean that doesn't mean I won't be surprised if they figure out a way to do it and we're all back here Monday light. That's the NFL, right But right now I just have a hard time finance. So I think the Eagles end up winning twenty six twenty four
a close game. I think the Cowboys give it a very valid effort, and I think they actually jump out to a lead because I think the Eagles been sitting around for two week so letting everybody pat him on the back and see how great they are, and they watched the whole division lose last week and feeling pretty good about themselves, and typically that can take a team
out and make them be a little flat. But at the end of the day, I still think they got more firepower than the Cowboys have right now, if the Cowboys find a way to win this game, I'll quote, tweet and retweet all of the mean stuff y'all want to throw at me for picking her own Like that's fine, Like, well, let's talk about about picking like you got it. You gotta pick based upon well and that's like I want them to prove it to me that they can do
it without these guys. People take it personally. I feel like when I pick against the Cowboys, like I'm just doing my best to tell you what i think is going to happen with the information that I have, So it's nothing personal, right, all right, We appreciate you joining us. We'll be back Monday. We'll tell you what went right and what went wrong for the Cowboys and till then. For Nick Eaton, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia, I'm Derek Eagleson.
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