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Cowboys Break: Turning the Page

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The crew put the final touches on the Vikings' loss before directing the focus on the Lions and their injury issues on offense.

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The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break. Yeah, and so much for that. It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. What's up, guys. I guess I'm gonna host this thing. No one else will. Amber Garcia is here, David Helman is here, I'm here, Derek is not, but he might

be here in a little bit. But it's Wednesday. A lot of stuff happening here, and it's five and four football team always gonna happen like that. Yeah, we're eventful. We're gonna talk about storylines. We're gonna talk about the Lions. You had to do some research on that pad too, is a good way to phrase that. We're gonna talk about the weather because it is cold out there. It's that's it. That's all we're gonna talk about there. Okay, So all right, are we doing here? Well, Amber's watching

the show on Paris. Actually clicked on the app. Well I didn't accidentally click. I clicked on the app and then it automatically plays the podcast. So I had my volume all the way up. Sorry for that. I did that during Jason Garrett's press conference today. You're fine, don't worry about it. Speaking of the press conference, Yeah, what are the storylines coming out of that? Oh man? That it was an interesting morning at the old Jason Garrett

press conference? Are we looking back or forward? Both? Um? I mean, first of all, I get you know, if Derek was here, he'd want to go through the injuries, and there's a lot of them. That was a big part of it. Um Zach mar and Lyle Collins, Connor Williams are not practicing today. We knew about Connor, um Zach and Lyle or you know, that's stuff they've been dealing with all year. Uh, they're not out there. The first team line right now is Tyrant Smith, Zavier Suphilo,

Travis Frederick, Joe Looney and Brandon Knight. I doubt that'll be the first team offensive line on Sunday. But it's not fun when you see that. Mary Cooper is not practicing, Michael Bennett is absent today, and I don't know why Garrett didn't mention that at his pressor or at his walk off. I don't know if it's injury related. I don't know if he's got something personal going on. It is his birthday, although typically that's you know, that's not

usually a reason. Yeah, that's not a thing. Um, So I don't know. We'll we'll try to get to the bottom of that. Um. I think that's everybody of consequence. Cam Fleming is back, Um, but yeah, there there was a lot of it was a lot. Wait a second, Cam Fleming is back doing what he's back at practice? Why isn't he starting it at right tackle over Brandon Knight. I guess Brandon Knight did a good job. I don't know. Good to know. Um, do you feel bad about what

you were saying about Connor the other day? It was on Monday, like he willed the guy to get hurt. No, he didn't. But maybe that was the reason why he was playing that way. Oh maybe, I mean, if that's if that did, I mean, if that's what the issue is. But either way then I don't feel bad because they need to upgrade there. This isn't dak to Cooper Rush. This is Connor Williams to his davers to a Filow, a guy that most people would say is equal, maybe

even better, and if anything, he's stronger. He's a guard Connor Williams. There's still a debate whether or not that's his natural position. There's never been a debate on to a philo, And I think that's what this team needs, is some strength. So if he was hurt and not playing, well, okay, well you're gonna get back. I figured it out. But dampers like, I hope you're proud of yourself, and get a lot of people on Twitter, like one guy even said to me, and you did you, Tanya? Tanya Harding,

Jeff Glouley, the guy like that's uncalled for. Why did they say that? That's because it's fun and it's Twitter and you can say stuff like that. The joke there, it's not really a joke. Oh I get it now. I'm a decent bit younger than you. I needed a minute to you know, I didn't live. I was alive when that happened, but I don't remember it. Sorry, So what did Jason Garrett talking? I mean, wasn't talking about that.

We we analyzed the fair punt, the fair catch punt thing with Tavon Austin as if it were the Zibbruder film. I do get that historical reference. I mean, we broke it down from every angle. You know, whose fault was it for not communicating? And how far apart was Jason Garrett and his special team's coordinator Keith O'Quinn, and just like, like, you know, what exactly did you say or not say? And like I understand like they could have picked up twelve to fifteen extra yards and it would have given

them a much better chance to win that game. But I mean, I don't know. Garrett on Monday, he was like, we miscommunicated, We didn't do a good job with that. I guess maybe I think there was some concern that he threw Tavon Austin under the bus. I honestly never got that impression from what he said. I didn't he said, we didn't. We gave him the opportunity to do that. We didn't to do He get get some yards if you want, make sure you can go north and south,

do not waste any time going east and west. And if you have to fair catch it, you can fair catch it. And I think there's some people that believe that's what he heard yeah, I think there were some wires crossed and he you know, you said this, or maybe the fair catch stood out to him the most. But again, I don't know to still be beating it into the ground on a Wednesday afternoon, to me, he's overkill.

It was it was bad. It was a bad sequence from the coaching staff, Tavon, everybody all the way around. And I think what the storyline is, what the narrative people want to to bring up here, is that there's some dissension in the locker room between the coaching staff and miscommunication and all that stuff. But you know, I think things get miscommunicated all the time. I mean, when you have, you know, thirty seconds on between each play

to figure this out, that's what ye Garrett. And you know what, I criticized Garrett a lot, and and he has. He's been contentious in the past whenever something like that kind of gets harped on. He kind of he owned it today. He was like, he's like, I don't really want to talk about the Minnesota game, but here we go. Let's break this whole thing down. He did it at the press conference and then at the walk off, which

is not televised. He did it all over again, Like he went through every angle of it and basically was like, if it sounded like I threw Tavon under the bus, that wasn't my intention at all. It was on us, Like it was you know, it's on Keith, It's on me. Everything falls on me. I take responsibility for it. We didn't communicate it well enough. He also, you know, not to like let him off the hook, but he was like, we miscommunicated a dozen things during the Eagles game three

weeks ago, and we won by twenty seven points. So that's kind of the nature of football as these things get hyper analyzed in the wake of a loss, and rightfully so, there's only sixteen of these things, so you know, it makes sense to second guess things that lead to you losing a game. I get that. I've recently started to listen to listen to podcasts, just one of them being Oprah. Oh okay, all right, I'm fascinated to see

where this is going. Yeah. So, no, I was listening to one on my drive in today and there's one where she just goes on about this quote that really stood out to her throughout her life when she first heard it. When you know better, you do better. And then I started thinking about you know, you start applying it to your own life, and I'm like, these Cowboys,

you should know better by now. You know, you're heading into week eleven, and the things, the way that you're handling this team, you get and it baffles me because you got a whole team of coaches, assistant coaches, assistant to the assistant, and you got all these guys that this is what they do week after week, day by day and study the game, look at other teams, look

at the opponent. They go in have these meetings and talk about it and then go and communicated to the players and spend all this time looking at film, And it's just like, should you not know better by now? But what are you saying? Though? No? Better to do? What? Though?

What did they not do better? Communicate? Well, one of them being in this scenario for example, Okay, there's a communication communication factor, but then when you go out and go look at a game after game and the struggles and the issues that they're currently having that should not be happening as far as okay, play calling per se.

Play calling has been an issue surrounding the Cowboys and has been recently started to be talked about because of what happened in this previous game and the calls that they should have made. It's like, you should know better by now, you should know what works for your team. You should know what to do rather than keep making those same mistakes that we keep seeing week after week. In a way, you might not agree, but that's my own personal opinion, and that's how I see it, and

that's what I think. I disagree because of the Zeke part. I mean, it's like, you should know better to give the ball to Zeke. The only thing we do know is Zeke's one of the best running backs in the NFL and he has been, so I don't I don't know what you should know not to give him the ball there now, you should know how to adjust. You should know that if you're watching this game and you're giving the ball to Zeke and Zeke is not able to run the ball, what do you do at that point?

They did. They adjusted this week. They took out Connor Williams and put in Zas. Whether or not he was hurt or not, they did. They made that adn't happened during the game. Okay, that just due to an injury, but I'm picking up what you're putting down. Maybe not across the board, but I mean, that is the most maddening thing about this team is like, I don't know, they keep doing the same stuff that leads to where we are right now. I mean, which again I don't

have an answer for how to fix it. I wish I did, but like, can you stop falling into these holes in the first quarter? Can you come out and play better? Can you come out and play better? Like, I don't have it in front of me, but they're like they're getting outscored by an astronomical margin in the first quarter and kicking people's butts from the second to the fourth. Shouts out to Bobby Belt for that stat. I saw it on your thirty seven first quarter fifty

five to thirty seven, twenty points. Yeah, seventy one to forty eight the Cowboys in the second half, in the second half of the second quarter, I mean, third quarter, they're up sixty five to forty one, and the fourth quarter seventy eight to twenty six. That's they're killing people the rest of the way. It's the first quarter. It's they're absolutely killing people. In three of the four quarters. But when you start behind the eight ball, it affects

everything else that you do. And I'll say it for the eighteenth time and then we can move on from the Minnesota game. But I don't begrudge them trying to get two yards with Ezekiel Elliott in crunch time. That makes a lot of sense. It's all of the first down runs that got us to that point that I still can't wrap my mind around. Do you feel, based on all the games that we've seen so far, when they start out a game, do you feel that, week after week, maybe you've seen them trying to do something

different than what they've been doing in the past. Or do they do you think that they just go out there and kind of do basically the same thing that we've been seeing every week. It looks awfully similar to me. I mean, nothing jumps out at me that makes me think that they've really tried to get outside of their comfort zone in any particular week. So that's my problem. It's like you come in watch the film, you see what didn't work, so you should know better and go

next week and try something completely different. I think, which you can agree with this or you can't. You don't have. You don't have to agree with this, but I'm telling you what I think that they think, which the the third down call to Zeke that got blown up is a perfect example where you know, Connor Williams, he didn't stay on his block long enough before he moved to the second level d lineman swam, swam moved right past him,

blows up Zeke in the backfield. I think they watch that play and they say, if he just holds his block half a second longer, that'll work. Like that that would have worked if he had just done that right, And so we're just going to practice harder and emphasize harder making that work and then it'll work. Instead of being like, oh that really didn't work, maybe we should try something completely different, you know what I mean. Like I think Jason Garrett looks at everything bad from the

course of a game, all games. He's just like, we're just we're a fraction of an inch away from that having worked, and then we wouldn't be talking about this, Whereas I don't know that that's how everybody would approach the situation. And we talk about coaches being adaptable and malleable and varying things up from week to week, and I think Jason Garrett is more like we're so close to just being able to do it our way, the

right way, you know. Well, And I said this yesterday, and it's just it's weird that like, if you get beat bad, like twenty eight to seven, then you can talk about how all these things are really bad. But I don't know what we would be talking about, nothing about this if they could get twelve more yards, of course, and so yeah, I mean it was a great football game back and forth. They didn't win the game, but we wouldn't have monumental problems if they got twelve yards.

I just don't think that that is the biggest difference here. I don't. I don't think that now we need to talk about this guy is following because they didn't win this game. If they got beat bad, then that's one thing. But I think the issue comes down when you start

seeing a trend, and this has become a trend. Look starts, yeah, and obviously that comes and bites you in the butt at the end of the game, Like it's hard to kind of keep up when you start out that way and the other team, even though they cut up caught up before the halftime and they were able to manage, you know, balance out the board a little bit. But even then, it's just like when you when the issue for me is it's a trend. It's not just a

one game thing. Yeah, and I mean slow starts is a big part of it, but just I mean, and you can't pinpoint into one person. I think the Vikings game, I said this right after the game, It's like it was the biggest example of coaching failures this year in my opinion, because like you go back to you know, go back to the Saints game. You know, Dak missus Cobb in the end zone, Cob drops a big pass on third down, like more player oriented problems, Green Bay interceptions,

defense forgot how to defend the run. Regardless, I think the trend is not being able to figure out how to win games against good teams. And I mean, at this point, the Cowboys are out of bad teams to beat, with the exception of a game against Washington in Week seventeen. So the Lions, you know, I'm not waiting about that. We can talk about that. The Lions are not a bad football team. They might be forced to be bad if Matthew Stafford can't play. I mean that obviously drastically

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on GWS once score, September twenty nineteen. Back to the break, all right, we're turning the page of the Vikings game. Going straight to the Lions should be fun. Up in Detroit. Have you ever been to Detroit? You've been once? Yeah, the Megatron game Derek's coming back talk about Detroit. Why does it look pissed off? Because because he was being a manager a director, he's got a deal with stuff. You better put a smile on your face now, Derek, all right, we're talking about the Lions. Now we were

the Lions, Detroit Lions. No more talking about fair catching and fourth and two or third and two and running the ball and trends and Oprah and all this stuff we've been talking about. Yeah, don't you missed it. Don't let's keep going. She brought that to the table. I don't only agree with it. Whatever, Sorry, I don't care if you agree or at all. Well, I've opish on the show. She does not care what any of us think.

I just think everyone has their own opinion. That's fine as long as we're walking out of this room respecting each other at school and we do and we do, yes, we do. Okay, we have a loving show starting with the Lions. Here the storylines love story the Lions really quick. Matthew Stafford injury. The NFL wants to figure out why they didn't tell people earlier, so they're kind of investigating that. That doesn't really matter to the fans. What they're talking

about now, as is he gonna play? Is he week to week, day to day? It's got like broken bones in his back. That's never really good. But we've seen with Romo that sounds a little bit worse than it really is. But is it not sure if he's going, Yeah, I mean broken bones in your back and you miss one game that seems like it would put you out forever. And then I ascribed to the whole Day philosophy on this that NFL players are crazy, like, yeah, broken bones

your back is that is a bad injury. That is sorry, keep going all right? And if he doesn't doesn't play, then Jeff Driscoll, who's not been very good in his career, but he played last week, played Okay, I guess against the Bears. They lost. They don't have any running backs. It's another storyline. Carry on. Johnson, Trey Carson are out. They're gonna go with probably j. D. McKissick, Ty Johnson to run the ball. Dave will tell you a little

bit more about them. Kenney galla Day is leading the NFL and touchdown it catches off eight right ahead of the Cooper. Very good receiver, big guy. I'd like to throw the ball to him in the red zone. Had one. He set four in the last three games. And then another storyline that doesn't really affect the game, but something that the Lions are definitely dealing with is the death of a former receiver, Charles Rogers number two overall pick.

One of the greatest commercials in NFL history when he was coming into the league, him and ray Lewis, but never really panned out at all. If you're gonna call him a bust, he certainly was. He just didn't, you know, number two overall pick and just didn't never pan out. But you know, a member of the Lions organization, and when you look at a lot of things that they're dealing with, you'll see a moment of silence, I'm sure, and then game it's just sad. You know, off the

field issues injuries got up to him. But you draft a guy number two overall, you expect him to kind of change your franchise and they don't always pan out. The guy next to him, Andre Johnson, draft the third. It's one of the best players in the history of the Houston Texans. That's what they wanted Charles Rogers to be. But that's just a storyline that Lions are dealing with that's not going to affect the game. That's it. That's

what I got. Good stuff. It's a good storylines going on this weekend in this game, and most of them, most of them that are specific to the game, seem like they should work out well for the Cowboys. Dave, your turn talk to us about this Lions offense and what the Cowboys can expect to call them. It's good. You didn't say they're a good football team. You said they're not a bad football They're not a bad football team.

I mean, they start off the season and we thought they might be actually a lot better than their records as they are now. This is a team that, uh beat the Chargers, beat the Eagles, went right to the wire with the Kansas City Chiefs back in September were robbed by the Packers with the referees to be specific, if y'all remember that, I think it was it was that. Was that a Monday night game or they were robbed

in that Green Bay Games beat the Giants fairly comfortably. Uh, And I'm not they're not They're not great, but they were having a sneaky good season. Matthew Stafford probably having the best year of his career up until this injury. Uh,

playing really fantastically. Which I was going to argue with you about the broken bones in the back, and then I thought back to fourteen, Romo broke his back in the you know, fourth quarter of that Redskins game, didn't play against the Cardinals, and was back for the Jags game the next week after that, So he played there. Great, they kicked the Jags butt. I mean, yeah, yeah, football players are nuts. Tyler Tyler Lockett was hospitalized for two

two days after perusings like the other days. Yeah, it's insane. Which so I'm like, I'm kind of regretting this because I was like, all right, I'm gonna watch the Driscoll game because there's no way Stafford comes back. Maybe he does, though I just kind of convinced myself that he might. But either way, you should. You know all about Matthew Stafford,

Like he's played the Cowboys a dozen times. For my money, he's like one A or one B in terms of just the most rawly talented quarterbacks in the league, like him and Rogers both, Like I'm just talking about talent arm talent the mobility and the different the ability to throw from all sorts of different angles, Like there's no throw he can't make. I actually I was kind of I was thinking about this yesterday. I was like, man, I feel like there's some similarities to him in Romo.

Obviously not you know, one was number one overall and one was undrafted. Not so much that, but like they both wear nine. They were both like the only good thing going about their franchise for a number of years. Probably didn't get as much credit as they deserved for how good they were, not a lot of playoff success to show for it. And now the parallel doesn't quite

line up because the Lions aren't that good. But like they were having a good season and he was having the best season of his career, and now injuries are catching up to him, which is a bummer. Anyway, I just thought that was mildly interesting. If Jeff Driscoll plays, I think it gives the Cowboys a hell of an opportunity to win this game because he's just he's limited. The stats say that he played pretty well. I think he threw for two sixty and a touchdown. But you

want to talk about dink and dunk Man like. The Lions had to game plan to hide him from the Bears basically a lot of rollouts, a lot of one read plays like whether it's a bubble screen or a bootleg to a guy coming across the field or thrown into the flat. The only time I saw him move past the first progression was like when the play broke down. He was also the Lions leading rusher in that game with thirty seven yards, so I believe is he a

rushing quarterback or is he just they didn't have. He's the classic, like more athletic than you want to give him credit for, but he is not Daniel Jones kind of guy. Yeah, maybe I think Jones is probably a little more athletic, but yeah, I mean, he can pick up fifteen yards if you leave him on accounted for, but you're not game planning for him to run the ball. But the Bears didn't respect their run carry on Johnson's out.

Ty Johnson actually got concussed three plays into that game, so odds are if he can't come back, it'll be McKissick and then Paul Perkins, who used to be the Giants, a guy the Cowboys were interested in a few years ago. They have two really good tight ends, TJ. Hockinson, obviously big time draft pick, and then Jesse James who they got from Pittsburgh, who's a pretty sneaky good player. I like that they're both they're both big enough to play in line, but they're both athletic enough to flex off

and they both do it. So like Will Hackinson, it's better. I mean Hockinson, he's insane. He's like the best all around tight end to come out of college and in a decent bit of time he's I love his game. I think he's already been concussed like two or three times this year, which is yeah, he needs to watch out for that. Um he does, He's no, he's I mean, he's taken some hard hits this year. But it's scary because they both will line up in like bunch formations

with these receivers who were already big. Marvin Jones is six two gala days six four two fifteen, very big dudes. Um, But so they'll use these guys in bunches with their receivers and it's just a lot of big bodies for guys to have to defend. Um. Their right tackle is concussed two. Actually, as long as we're talking about old Cowboys, Dan Skipper is now a Lion. He might remember him. Arkansas, Yeah, Arkansas razor back. He's six ten, won a Super Bowl

with the Pats as a practice squad player. He's bounced around the league, so he might have to play in this game, depending on the health of their offensive line. Um, how many concussions have you mentioned already? Yeah? No, this is a banged up team, That's my god. The Lions are They would be pretty good if they could keep all their guys on the field, but they just they just can't. All these guys that you're mentioning, are most of them considered to be out for the Cowboys game?

And we don't know just what you based on how much they've been out so far, would you expect it or you think it's kind of up in the air on all I mean, other than Stafford, we're mainly talking about concussions, and I'm always leery about Yeah, it's hard to predict that. Um, what did I I think they're going to They're gonna they're gonna try to use screen passes in this game, assuming Stafford doesn't play, because it's yeah.

I mean, the Cowboys clearly haven't shown that they can stop it consistently, and it is a bona fide guaranteed way to create an easy throw for your quarterback. So I Amondola does him. He's up there now. By the way, Amendola does they do them with the running backs. I expect to see that. The one thing I will say though, in this last game, I think part of the issue with the Cowboys stopping those screen passes it was they

weren't tackling well. And I think part of that is because you had such talented guys catch those screen passes. They may not have that because they've had so many guys out. Maybe the hell because it looks like it looks like the Cowboys were in the right spot a lot of times. They just as as evidence by the fact that they had that there was one hundred and forty four yards after the catch. I mean, they just

didn't make the tackle. So hopefully that means this week maybe they make after the catch or sorry, after contact okay, because I was like they should have after contact, Yeah, after contract, after content, which is a huge number. We talked about it, Yester. It's a huge numb It is funny to me. Um sounds Sounds from the sideline from the Vikings game came out last night. Have y'all had

a chance to watch it. It's not as much fun to watch when they lose, but but Marinelli was on there, and I mean it was funny to watch because he was like on the sideline, like boots and screens, it's all they're doing, like, let's tighten it up. And obviously that didn't happen. But so then I'm watching the Lions game and it's boots and screens because you have a deceivingly athletic quarterback who's limited in what he can see. I mean, it worked well enough all things considered, Like

this was not a pretty game to watch. The Lions scored thirteen points. Driscoll averaged five point eight yards per attempt. I mean, the epitome of dink and dunk. I think he maybe had two completions of longer than you know, fifteen yards probably. I think I think I actually wrote that down in the storylines about McKissick. I think it's six catches for nineteen yards. Yeah, so that that didn't work as well as the Dalvin Cook you know, no, no,

it didn't, it didn't work well. But it again it's like it's what can you do when your quarterback is this limited? Because again I wrote this down, I really I don't think he went past his second read in the whole game, like I mean, just and you can just tell the way some of these routes were drawn up. It was like, he's clearly looking for the this guy immediately. But let's also say this too, because he'll be better, not only at home, will probably be better, but also

if he does play. He didn't find out that he was starting until Sunday morning. Sure you get a whole you know, that's a really good point. You get a comfortable than he was and that Yeah, and you know the Bears they're not a great team, but they do have they got a nice defense, nice defense, and they hit hard. Obviously everyone's can cuss, so you know, but but they get up the field and they got arguably the best pass rusher in the game. I expect, I mean,

I expect to see boots and screens. I Galladay and Jones are super underrated. But I wonder how much Driscoll can take advantage of that, which is, I mean, everything changes as stat if Stafford plays, he's got I mean, he can put the ball anywhere he wants to, and he also, you know, he can find those guys and it's more of a three dimensional passing attack when he plays um. One thing that I watched that really pissed me off, understandably, like the Bears didn't honor their run

game at all. They used their fullback a lot. I got his name right here. I'm sorry, it's Bowden, Nick Bawden. Excuse me. He was out there, which eleven snaps. I know that's not a lot, but it's fifteen percent of

the offense. And the reason it pissed me off is I was like, every time, every time that it was like a short yardage or an obvious run, they put him out there and they're not going for chunks, but there he's blowing guys up and helping the running back pick up the necessary yardage, like they picked up a few second, third and shorts in this game. And so that made me think, I was like, this guy's on the field way more than I can remember Olah Wally being on the field. So I actually went and looked

it up. He played thirteen percent of the snaps, which is more than ola Wally has played. Since Week one. Olah Wally's snap count this season is sixteen. Against the Giants, he had he was pretty active in that game, had a pretty big role. Got me really excited. He ran a wheel route, YadA YadA. Since then, eight snaps, nine snaps, six snaps, two snaps, five snaps, ten snaps, six snaps,

five snaps. Let me ask you this though, um, which I'm going on that has nothing to do with the Lions, but I but it's classic Cowboys to insist, insist that they need a fullback and never use them. Right, You're so what you're upset about is not necessarily they're not using him, is that they have him and they're not using him, right, Yeah, I mean, which I'm not like,

I don't want Jamais Olawala to be cut. I have nothing against him, but I'm like, it's it's like Garrett's thing that they have to have a fullback, but they don't do anything with him. I mean, he's that's that's the thing. He's not. He's not that guy. He's not

that guy. But Kellen Moore showed us in Week one what he could do with them, Like he was active in that game and did stuff and it wasn't anything crazy, but they have done nothing to build on that, and it's just it kind of encapsulates some of my frustrations with the team that they're just like, well, we we can't. I mean, what do you want us to do? Take Zeke off the field? No, he's a fullback. You don't

have to take Zeek off the field. Just use him at the same time, you like, do something with him, same same thing as Tony Pollard. It's like they can find eleven snaps for their guy, but but you can't find ten fifteen percent of the snaps for your other guys beside Zeke. I don't believe it. Yeah, he's just aggravating. We wanna take our final break when we come back.

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now at saget dot com. There's only about sixteens that have a chance to play in that game. You have no confidence in my boys. They gotta win there. You can be throwing science around Oklahoma, Texas, Baylor. Really, I think it's it's three team to I think now that that means something crazy can't happen. But I think it's really three teams at this point. Kind of think it's Oklahoma Baylor in Texas at this point. The Big Twelve needs to steal a couple of teams from somebody else

and get into some divisions. Because I had that conversation, I actually would love for Arkansas to just kind of slide on over there. I would love for Nebraska to slide back. I think just the history of those brands I think would add something. I'm down for Nebraska to come back, but Arkansas is not given up the SEC bag. There's I mean, I know it would be smart of them helping them, it's just still too much my help

walk away from Yeah, I guess that's true. I'm just tired of I don't like this Big Twelve title game being a rematch every year because everybody plays everybody like, well there, I think they're gonna do that anyway, And to be honest with it, I actually like that. I don't know. I don't want to get to I'm sorry. I apologize to everyone I started three. There is the Big Twelve Championship and hopefully, hopefully if you will be there, if you're an ou or a Baylor fan. I would

and I would get some tickets. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I don't know about Baylor. We'll see, Okay, we will see they win Saturday against Oklahoma and there, yes, they're going to them. If they lose, though, Texas just steps right on. Let's go baby, all right, let's get back to this. You hated them a week ago. You're like, I'm over them. Hey, you should know as much as

anybody as well as he does. I do. Like, you can love your team and hate your team, like, there's a fine line between love and hate when it comes to team. Bring it right back to the Cowboys, because if they go up and just kick Detroit's ass on Sunday, then everybody will be happy again. You'll ultimately never walk away from them, No, but you can hate them while you're there, like you'll hate the bad moments it happens. It's yeah, and I've said this several times on this show.

You don't choose who you root for. It chooses you. You You don't choose to be a Cowboys fan the cowboy. You have become a Cowboys fan because your parents were and they passed it down or whatever. It is that Drew. But now you're in, You're sucked in and you don't get to pick anymore. Well I'm not, I'm burning all my stuff. No, you're a Cowboy fan, you know, as mad as they make you, as frustrating as it might get. It's like, well, there's still next Sunday. Right, there's still

next Saturday. Right, there's a tweet I think about all the time that's like, no, no, no, I'm not a fan. I hate them a lot. Actually, I just want them to win more than anything. And there's a difference, and I'm like, yeah, that hits home. That hits home with me. All right, let's I didn't have a question for you, Dave. I was talking. I was you were talking about how big the wide receivers are in Detroit and talking about you in their tight ends and how they'll they'll slide

out at times. Are you at all concerned about it? And this is kind of to the group watching these defensive backs for the Cowboys play when they've played against bigger wide receivers. What have you seen and does that give you some level of concern going up against a receiver group that looks like everybody seems to be big other than the A Mondola. Yeah, yeah, of course it's concerning. I mean it gives me flashbacks to DeVante Parker, who I was down on going into that game, and you know,

the Cowboys won that game thirty one to six. But he definitely had some success against Cheeto A Woozier. There's no way around that. Obviously, Cheeto got picked on in this Vikings game big time, and they didn't yeah, the tight end, they didn't even have feeling. These are big receivers, you know. I feel fine about Byron Jones. I mean he's only six one, but he's so long and athletic and can jump and all that good stuff. So I like that I have seen, you know, I like him

as a person. I haven't seen anything from Cheeto that gives me confidence that he can handle his half of that. And then you know, you can say what you want about Jordan Lewis, but he is shorter than average and these are big receivers with which you know, not so much Amndola. I'm saying, you know, for the people that want to move him outside, I don't know how much you want to do that in this particular matchup. You know, we've done talking about those receivers. Moving on, I know

only said we'd turned the page a little bit. But going back to the to the Vikings game, the last play of the game, well, I mean, they don't have anybody that can really go down there and make a play and jump up and des like the ball. So the two things that Byron Jones can do. He can run and he can jump. That's why he got drafted in the first round because he just killed it at the combine. He's a good cover guy, but he can run and he can jump. So why not maybe put

him in on offense on the hail Mary's play. Can't catch the ball. I don't know if I want you to catch the ball. You just wanted to be able to bat it. I want you to be I want your hands to be up there trying to do something. Maybe he can catch it, maybe he bats it down. But did you see the guy that got it from the Vikings. That dude was huge and he went out and made the interception. I'm just saying you don't have a guy that can go up there and make it.

I'm not saying he would make the catch. Are you taking out to put him in? I don't know who anybody like, was there a tight end? Was Lake Jarwin down there? I don't remember, to be honest, I don't really remember either, but anybody I mean Cobb, Yeah, my question is just Cobb really helping a jump ball kind of situation that has caught one for Aaron Rodgers, but who hasn't It seems to do that all the time. I think he did catch one in the back of

the kind of snuck behind him. All. Yeah, in that scenario, you're sending Byron out there to jump over everybody, he won't catch it, so he's tipping it up and just giving the play more life for somebody else to come down with it. You know he's gonna be down there, because that's one thing that I'm surprised that they didn't blitz like Sean Payton did against the Saints. They actually kind of let that play happen. Yeah, you know he would be down there. You know, it's just a scrum

at that point. But I mean, giving me my best athletes, I don't have that guy. I just I know I know he can he not catch though. This isn't the situation of Scandrid that he makes fun of himself about it. Can he not catch? He literally it was the bye week Layton vander Esh went to watch his cousin play for his old high school team. Kid had four picks and Layton was bragging on him on Instagram. Byron commented on the photo and was like, can he teach me

something about that? Like yeah, haha, but he's not dropping balls. I thought there's a reason why he plays corners. Somebody at somebody at training camp, maybe they were talking to you Amber or somebody. Maybe it was Lindsay. They were interviewing. I think Xavier woulds and it was sort of like, you know, rank ranked the DBS by catching ability, like who's going to get the most picks, and you know

everybody thinks they're the best. So I think Xavier was like, yeah, me and Jay lose really good too, blah blah blah, and somebody and were like who's the worst, and like no, hesit, Oh my god. Byron like, of course it's Byron. He can't catch. He can't. I mean just I like the thought process because he can get up over everybody. But I mean I would rather have a guy who I trust to catch the ball. I'll say this, and I just think it's to be the one he would catch.

I mean, you know what it would need. It would be so innovative, an outside box for Jason Garrett that I'd be here for it anyway, Like did you see it? Kind of it went many viral on Monday night, the Niners. I think it was Mark Marky's goodwin or they had a somebody who's super fast lined up even with the punter in the backfield on a fourth down and played Gunner from twenty yards behind the line of scrimmage and

like nobody blocked him because nobody does that. And he blew the guy up, like he tackled him right when he caught the ball, and it was super cool. And I was like, that's the level of creativity exactly because he can't get jammed off the right, yeah, exactly, exactly fast enough to make up the distance and you got all those things. He was sprinter guy, Yeah, yeah, Olympic sprinter. So do something fun and outside the box. Yeah. But you know, honestly, that's where I was going. Even more

than than seeing maybe putting Byron back there. I'd like them to try maybe what Kansas City did to them on that At the end of that half where they kind of throw the ball underneath and let your guy in the open field try to see what he can do. All the defenders are back. So if you're telling me,

you give Tavon same thing happened with the punt. By the way, you give Tavon twenty thirty yards of momentum before anybody's gonna get to him, and he's got blockers in front of him, I think you got a better shot of maybe converting that than you just throwing it into the air and saying, in this sea of humanity, one of the cowboys is gonna come down with it. Yeah.

I don't see why more teams aren't taking their fastest guy, the most elusive guy that they would use to return punts and putting them in that kind of situation and seeing what happens. I think you got a better shot at that than Hail Mary's unless you're in Rodgers. I basically refuse to believe that Tavon Austin is not a useful football player. I don't know if he's. No. Everybody's gonna argue with you on that. I think that's an

accurate statement. I'm just saying based on his career and like, nobody's been able to find us like a consistent use for him. And I don't think he's like this great well rounded receiver. I don't want him. You know, they tried to use him as one of their three primary receivers for the first few weeks of twenty eighteen. Don't

like that. But he he's worth giving some touches to. Yeah, I mean, he had the longest run of the night the other night, but you don't see that, like, and it's just I wish there was more creativity in this offense sometimes. All Right, we appreciate you, guys, Joan us. We're back tomorrow the normal time. Sorry, Dave Hellman and Bergarcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on

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