Cowboys Break: Toughest Test Yet?

The Break. Left in the SWBC Mortgage studios at the start, Nick, we got a little time today, so give me a thirty one. Oh let's go with Roy Williams, your boy, your boy Roy, George Teague maybe, and there's a lot Brock Marion Byron Jones, Rock Marry. That was when I first got first got to the calbum. It would just be Byron for men. I can't Who's who were Who's wearing thirty one? Right? Treyvon Diggs work for like an hour training camp and before he moved to Yeah, I

think twenty seven. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I think thirty one's open right now. No, Kennedy, I'm sorry, sorry, breaking breaking news sorry, hey he got some playing time last week. Uh yeah, yeah, I love that response. No, I was honestly thinking of like in the eighties and like a thirty one. I don't know, Binny Barnes maybe played back at the seventies. He was in the seven like a basketball player. Yeah, he's in Binny Barnes. No, no, boy,

he played football. He was a corner, all right, thirty one? Yeah, all right, Well thanks for that, Nick Thomas Everett. Let's jump into, uh to what some of our topics for the day. Remember, we got Bucky Brooks coming up in the second segment from men IF Network. He's going to talk to us about this Carolina defense. Man, I'm a little worried about this, and we're gonna talk to them about it and get some some feedback from him on

what we think of this defense. What do you just just I mean, yeah, you watch, You'll probably watch like seven plays and you're like, you know of them. Stop. I'm not saying they're not good, but I mean we know, we know. I get worried. I just said it yesterday, like I got PTSD as you just you just I'm all over the map. It's not even that you get worried, like you just you ride the wave like you either think that the Cowboys will never lose again or that

like everything is gonna be bad. Oh by the way, and by the way, I could be like that an hour apart. That's what I'm saying. It's not even that in weeks. I already our apart. I already said this an hour apart. You were like to work on that story, man, and then like fifteen minutes later you were like, trouble.

I bet you we're in trouble. I was like, there if they're not in trouble in the press box, if there was a there was a camera that showed like both of us, we would probably annoy so many people because we don't just say, like, man, that was a bad play by so and so. We kind of take it to him. Is he is he? Does he need to be cut? Like? Is he good? Like you know, like we just take this hole going to the Pro Bowl? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we go all the way in. I think people would

relate to y'all because that's how fans watch the games. Maybe, so I think people would be annoyed by me because I'm just sitting there and like I look over I'm like, yep, y'all are talking cool. I'm gonna you can watch the game. Y'all can be quiet if you want to. I know, probably got some chats going on with your LSU buddies and stuff like that. Like you're always cranking away on something, but that might be just tweeting. It's usually Twitter or

pulling up the stats. I but you gotta remember, my friends aren't Cowboy fans, so I mean they might I'll get text people that are like, what the hell, Dave and Mari's on my fantasy team, He's not doing it. I'm like, shut up, I don't care. Like I'm like, I can do something. Yeah, I'm at work right now. I barely care about my fantasy team. You know, they're going like Joe Burrows, Joe Burrows when Yeah, when Cincinnati or Ls who are playing, it's a different story for sure.

You know. Actually tonight, I'm sorry I saw that too, and I was and beals, I'm really excited about football right now, just because you know it's that time of the year. But I'm like, I'm having a hard time getting up for this one. I would speak. This happened right before Mike McCarthy's press conference. Somebody was like, yeah, maybe I'll do that tonight. It's not like anybody wants to watch Jacks Bengals. And I was like, speak for yourself,

Joey b and Jamar I'm in. I'm there. They're tweeting the game. They're white uniforms, might be the best in the league. Bengal, Oh, they're pretty They're pretty nice, dude, they are awesome. I'm not talking about the Jags, no, I mean, and they're fine, but now I don't know the Bengals. They got it. The arrow's definitely going up right now. I mean for them. I know we don't play them and we're not supposed to be talking about them, but well, you know, one of the interesting things, I'll

tie it back to the Cowboys. I just read this morning Cheeta Woozya, who was signed by them in the offseason, cornerback now starting for them. He has the lowest completion percentage against him when he's been targeted in the entire NFL through three different and it made me wonder like, and I don't remember. You guys know way more and keep up with this a lot more than I do. But what was the deal. What did he gets signed

for in Cincinnati? It was like load of mid twenties, Like three years, I want to say, three years twenty two million dollars or like double deal for a cornerback, starting corner. That is a good price for a starting caliber corner. Yeah, for sure. But they had no room for him because they were gonna draft one of these two guys. Yeah, you know they were gonna draft one. But but but how would you feel right now if he was on the up It was three years twenty one

point seven I was close. Yeah, how would you feel right now if he was opposite Diggs? Would you feel better about that than you do with Anthony Brown? No, you gotta like Yetta. Remember, like there was no way any of those two corners weren't going to be there for the Cowboys in their mind, like they're gonna get a corner here, they're gonna take one of these things. They thought they were getting one first round. It's gonna be we're gonna have one of those guys with Diggs,

and we're gonna be often run. The way the Cowboys have played this is perfect. Yeah, Anthony Brown's not amazing. Jordan Lewis is fine. That's that's okay because they didn't invest in them to be guys that. This is not Jalen Smith where you're like, what are we gonna do with this contract? Ye, Like, the minute Kelvin Joseph steps up or if he even if he doesn't like, you

can just keep drafting that. And you can either let Anthony Brown's already this is the second year of his extension, so he's already only got one year left after this year. And by the way, the guarantees are done, you can move on from that whenever you want to. You can move on from Anthony Brown or Jordan right now. And the cap hit is negligible by NFL standards, so they're serviceable. They're good enough for now. They're bridge players. That's Brian

brought us. Where are you at, buddy, You're building a bridge with this player waiting for these young guys. It's unfortunate Kelvin. It's unfortunate that Kelvin Joseph isn't ready right now. But the way they played this is great. And by the way, drafting Kelvin Joseph in the second round doesn't stop them from drafting a cornerback in the first round. Next year, if that's how it falls. It's so I

thought about that too. But I've got another position that I'm like, well, I'm not saying they need to draft a corner in the first round, but offensive line, like center, Like like I'm and I'm thinking, you know, like if you're if you're picking thirty seconds, you can, um you just threw that out now. It just kind of right. Hey, they've picked thirty second before, and I think it was the year they got Frederick and they got a center. But I'm just saying they weren't in the game. But yeah,

they got thirty They'll be in the twenties. I mean, this is a good football I think. I mean they'll be They'll be in the twenties. That's where you can get you can get superior talent and value at a position like that. So we'll see. Be honest, he's gotta get you gotta get better. They're gonna ride with him here, I think, you know, and I don't know if he

played poorly. I know a couple of plays where he didn't. Well, we'll do in the in the final segment, we actually going to spend some time on the offensive line because I really want to talk about a couple of different guys in that offensive line and the other part to this, and we'll talk a little bit to Bucky about this.

This may be the best if you go across the line, this may be the best line that they will face to this point, at least how they're playing this year, because I know the Bucks are still the Bucks, and their defense last year was probably the best in the league, among the best in the league for sure, But thinking about how they're playing this year, this may be a This is definitely a very talented offensive line, I mean defense line they'll be facing. So I want to seek

out how those guys are going to relate there. Um. I did have one question. We were talking about the cornerbacks and with regards to Treyvon digs. We had a question from Twitter from Randall Walker. He said, with Treyvon shadowing receivers, now can he also cover them when he's lined up in the slot. What have you guys seen as far as when he's traveling, how much does he move around? Does he go into the slot or does

he pretty much stay on the outside. That's a really good question, and I feel like I've seen him think I've seen him in there too. But you know, all it all depends on who you're playing and what do they do, you know. Um, but I know Keenan Allen is a line up everywhere type of guy. I don't know if he actually you know what. After the game we got Treyvon Diggs against the Chargers and I asked

him about that. He said, yeah, he pretty much went with him every snap except for a couple of times when we went into zone and some coverages on third down. I'm not sure if that meant slot or not. I mean, I think he can't. He can do it. He can go in there, you know. Again, I say it a thousand times, but you know, when he moves around, a lot of people are moving around too, So you got to give credit to, you know, the whole defense for adjusting as well. Yeah, I hate to I'm just gonna

keep bitching about game pass. It's awful. My tape study is not where I want it to be right now. I will get better as the season goes. I was gonna say, I can't remember him being in the slot a ton, but I have all the confidence in the world that he could if they needed him too, So that makes sense. Yeah, Keenan Allen does that. I would play him wherever I felt like he needed to be.

I don't care where it is. Sometimes it's a domino effect of it too, and I always go back to you know, I think I think Dez Bryant made Cole Beasley's career because des was limited in the slot. He couldn't play the slot, Beasley couldn't play on the outside. So Beasley always had a role in the slot because Dez was always going to be on the outside. I always have cornerbacks like Jordan Lewis that they don't think

they really want to put on the outside. So therefore, you know, you want to if you put digs inside, then who goes to the outside, and that where might be a mismatch that they don't want to get into. So that's why I don't think it's not that he couldn't. I think it's probably because some other inside guys aren't as good on the outside. Worth there you go. Wow, that's a lot good. Yeah, it's a good pull by Beam. Yeah, thank you, sir, get it our producer, Chris Beam, thank

you for that information. But yeah, that that says a lot about his ability. Eight And that was a website or be him just charts this. He might chart it as he's as he shoots slot with watching it with one eye here. Yeah, so they've probably played a little bit more somewhere, Like I'm guessing they've probably played like one hundred and twenty snaps. One was fifty four last week. So what's I mean, that's a little that's like somewhere in the teens in terms of nine snaps. One hundred

short enough. I was gonna stay with like fifty, you know, one thing. One ninety feels like a lot for three games one twenty eight in the slot and hold on one second either. But so it's it's not a huge percentage it did, I mean twenty eight, but it means he can. The point is it can, And that's I think what the question was is can he truly follow a guy if they wanted him too, for the entire game, no matter where he goes, And I think he can.

I would not limit him if I like, if that's what the game plan called for, I'm cool with it. I just again, if that means Jordan Lewis is lining up on the outside, that that might be more of a problem than letting letting Digs just not take the star receiver when he goes inside. Jordan. We've seen Jordan Lewis, I mean, wasn't a ton of plays, but we've seen him stay with guys like Kamar for a little bit.

Jordan Lewis is a good player quick and he's one, you know, weird play away from We're talking about him all week. If he that ball popped right now, he came quick. It was that was that wasn't really a drop. But if he catches at walks into the end zone, it's not a drop. And I'm I'm not trying to trash talk Jordan, but that's what I was talking about. People are like, oh, yeah, the Digs, the Digs pick against Tampa, whatever, that's a bobble ball, right, not guaranteed

to make those plays. We haven't seen Dallas cornerbacks make those plays. I think the bounce on Jordan was tougher than the bounce to Diggs. Came a lot faster. Yeah, Diggs's play was a little bit easier to make. But I'm not taking for granted that a Dallas cornerback can make that play because we just haven't seen it often. Jordan, I mean Diggs never played offense. I mean, Jordan, has Diggs played receiver at Bama? No? You mean, oh yeah, mister,

but the jet sweep extraordinary? Yeah? Yeah, you remember that. Ye I'm telling you, if they ever needed, if they ever needed something like that, I think Diggs could play receiver. I think for sure. I mean, like now, they why why they don't stay over there? They don't. They don't like the best receiver. They don't need it. I don't think he would be. You know, he's not better than like too much. I'm not. I'm not. I'm saying, but like you got enough injuries where you need an extra

Maybe he's got great hands. You could you you can just see the interception the play that he made. And let's talk about him real quick. I mean, Dave wrote the story NFC the NFC Defensive Player of the Month the month the month Big September will be over by the time they play. What is there to say? Three picks, a touchdown, six pass breakups, which is leading the league. Um Dallas past defense is top ten. I don't think I realized that. But it's March. Mickey's gonna answer this

one for you. Tell me the last time this has happened. I mean, whatever you're about to ask, that was the question, Yeah, Mickey, because he sits with the guy, Everson Walls. Everson Walls the last No, no, no, I'm saying, the last time the Cowboys had a defensive player named Defensive Player of the Month in the NFL, it's probably d Ware, I'm guessing. Yeah, my memory is not as great as I think it used to be, but I'm pretty sure that a player has never won this in the time that I've covered

the team. Twenty thirteen was your first year, right, which not a huge stretch of time, but yeah, right to it. I don't think you're guessing it was back in the in the weird days. I don't think it's the heyday of DeMarcus Square of the Month. Yeah, you never know. I mean, and if you want to talk about cornerbacks, yeah, yeah, good luck with that. Final think ten who did it? I'm guessing no. He never was a big interception guy, and to do that you gotta get some Intersett got.

Roy Williams might have. But but yeah, it's true da Dave's era. I don't know, I don't know, I don't I can't think of a guy that did it. He's been a revelation. Like I knew he was good. I was reluctant to say he was this good because Obama. No, not just just mainly because I've been burned before. Yeah, because Obama. Seriously, though, I wrote this article after it happened. I mean, first round picks were good, a great at Alabama. But second pick, second round picks and on it's been

it's been hit and miss. Yeah, you know for them, So I think they get taken because they were really good players there, but they get you know, sometimes you don't know if it's because of all the talent around them. And I'm very surprised at what he's been able to do. Honestly, I don't wanna. Yeah I am. I did. There's no other way to say it. Like I thought he was a good player. I thought he had a good rookie year. Now I'm like, damn, is he like a top Yeah?

I mean maybe it's it's too soon to say top ten, but and I think you have to break it down. I was talking about this on the radio today, like you can't compare a second year corner who's a month into a second year to Jalen Ramsey, who's been doing this for five years. Like the pecking orders are a little bit different, but like among the younger players, guys who are still on their rookie deals, he's yeah, he's

in the conversation. He played sixteen games, yet I don't think he has didn't he missed like four, He missed a few last year. I gotta have to losk get up. He's probably played like fifteen or so games, and so think about it. And I know that's hard to say like a sixteen game because he's had two training camps and three seasons stuff like that, But sixteen games. I

think he's about to play a sixteenth game. If you were sitting there to say, hey, he's got six interceptions, I mean that would be that would be a monster rookie. Here's the fastest player to it since Marcus Peters. The last defensive plays of the Good Company for the Cowboys was the Marcus Lawrence in September twenty seventeen. Damn it's seventeen. That was Remember he started that year with like seven sacks. Yeah, he got four sacks against Denver in that blowout, and

he had like he tore it up. I forgot about that, and then Shawn Lee had it twice September of thirteen and said October thirteen and I sucked. Then I promise you that they played. Shaun Lee played the Eagles in that month, maybe twice because he was his team. He also looked up September. September thirteen was when he had um. He had that pick six against the Chargers that year too, and that was in September. Didn't he get hurt that game?

I don't know. I just I'll never He picked six Rivers and they had a big lead at halftime, and I was like, all right, they're rolling, and then like they got their asses kicked in the second. I think he got hurt in that game because d d Where threw a player onto his foot and broke his toe and he got hurt. Yeah, d Where just toss some guy around. See you, I can tell like we're all in a great mood and have energy today because we're just all over the freaking place and I do need

to take a break. We talked about the Bengals before we talked about any other player. But I brought it back to the count. You did you swear you put it back in the right so we're gonna gonna take our first break and we come back. We'll be joining about Bucky Brooks of NFL Network. We'll talk about the Carolina defense. His defense is pretty good. We're gonna get into that when we come back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot com review before there was a draft. You get

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Back to the break, Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders Making the Team is back for another exciting season. Don't miss new episodes every Friday at nine eighth Central only on CMT. That's a read right there. Yeah, good job, Nick, welcome back. Second thing you watch the Making the Team absolutely will will and watching any other Yeah, big brother well, big brothers over now? Uh go, Tiffany, she won. She didn't win?

I thought she Oh she won? She won House to Me or she won America's favorite yea for all the people that DVD watching it killed Like, I'm not gonna watch Bengals Jags. I'm gonna watch this tonight, watching what Happened last night? And they've just watched The Survivor. I haven't watched The Survivor. I watched the second episode last night.

It's funny. I heard you guys talking over there, Tommy Man, and it's like the funny thing was like right now, Danny's not even like on screen a whole lot because they're just like, oh, you guys won again. You just go Yeah, back, don't got the screen worried about the teams that are just like losing people, hemorrhaging p these other teams and like PhD students and they're just like

Danny McCrae, professional football players just over here carrying these comps. Yeah, it's fun though, I mean it is I've never watched Survivor before, but this season I'm definitely in. I'm having a good time watching it. So yeah, all right. He did this morning that the editing process kind of helped him out a little bit. He said, Yeah, he said, if they would have showed everything that happened and that challenge, it would have been embarrassing because like they ended out,

they did me right, Oh, I could tell. I could tell he was kind of tired, and that challenge looked like it was kind of Yeah, especially five days of not eating and then you go do that challenge. Yeah, that sounds like that would be really really hard. All Right. We're joined right now by Bucky Brooks of NFL Network. Bucky, welcome to the show. Let's talk about this Carolina defense. And I'll start first with Carolina's a lot the fewest yards and second fewest points this season. This is more

of a reflection of who they've played. They've played the Jets in New Orleans and Houston, or is this defense really that good? Defense? Is really good? They're really good because they're fast, they're athletic, they can get after you. And I think when you talk to Matt Rule, and I had a chance to talk to him while he was at bailing, he talked about rebuilding programs. He's on the number one thing that you have to do on D fenses. You gotta put speed on the field. And

I don't care where they come from. You gotta be able to put a fast and explosive team on the field. And when I look at the Carolina Panthers, they have certainly followed suit when it comes to their premise. They have dbs playing at linebacker. They have guys who should be linebackers putting their hand in the dirt like Brian Burns, And because they're so fast and athletic, they overwhelm you

with their collective explosiveness. And you have a real snow who is a little creative and out of the box, and it puts a lot of pressure on you as an offense to figure it out. So that being said, obviously. You know, it sounds like they have a track team going on defense. That means we'll probably see the Cowboys trying to attack them by running the ball at them.

I mean, because they can't be that powerful if they're going to be that fast, right, Yeah, the parliament is You've got big Dick brown sitting up in the middle of their defense, and Derek Browning can be a handful, and you know, like he hasn't put up like these crazy numbers, but he does enough to let the other guys eat. Shack Thompson is having a good year because run is up in the middle of commanding double teams

and allowing those guys to run in chase. When Jimmy Box Jimmy Chen decides to get into the box, then it becomes an issue. So the Bara box out of defense. They're tough Man Rule has done a great job of making sure that they play hard and they played with a level of toughness and physicality. So this will be kind of a test of wheels, particularly if the Cowboys elect to run the football at them. It's gonna be a heavyweight fight, an old school fifteen round heavywey fighter.

The line of scrimmage Bucky. I know enough to know that Brian Burns is one of the best young pass rushers in the NFL right now, but I don't know his game enough to know how versatile he is and is the I mean, does he play in one spot? Did they move him wherever the matchup is? Obviously I'm asking because I mean, are they just gonna put him over Terrence Steele and say have fun? Or what are

we looking at here? Well, what you're looking at this guy who is a speed rusher and a speed rusher only the best thing that he does is man He just gets up to feel the ball. He has great snapcount anticipation in first step quickness, and so if you're laid out of your stands, he's by you now. To be honest, because he's not a big fan of mine. Going on the back to when he was coming out of college, like he's kind of a one trick pony, right, He's gonna either gonna come up the field or he's

gonna do a spin move. And a lot of his sex are kind of sex on air. It's a blown protection. The running back forgets to pick him up and he kind of falls into it. That's it. He does have a lot of speeding. He can chase it down from the back side. The main thing that you have to do with him you got to put a body on him. If you put a body on him, then you can nullify him. But if you fall asleep at the whee hever run passion, he certainly are knocked down. The quarterback

sounds like this defense is really good. The numbers reflected they are number one against the past, there number one against the run. If you had to choose one of the two and say this is where you would have potentially more success than the other, would you pass predominantly or would you run predominantly against this defense? I think

he'd be I think you're balanced. I think as much as I can give Matt rule and feel Snow and all those guys their flowers, I don't think if you the Cowboys offense, that you're blinking at the on the other side. I think you do what you do and then you adjust accordingly. I think the best thing that the Cowboys have done is they've been balanced. And I think Kellen Moore said as I saw Dave retweeted this when he talked about the man as players not plays.

He basically kind of boiled down to that we got better players. So it doesn't matter what plays I call. I just need to get the ball to the best players. And I think that is the premise that worked well for the Cowboys Zeke, Tony Powler to Marie Cooper, Ceedee Lamb. When they get their touches, more likely than not they're better than the opponent. And so the Cowboys just need

to play the game. I will say when they run the football and it's a little closer to the fifty fifty balance, it helps the defense because you're not defending as many plays and so just being mindful of time possession and the number of plays that you're running on offense that is to the benefit of the defense. But I think you line up and you play, you see how they're playing because you have favorable matchups on the outside.

I think you attacked him throwing it. But I think at the end of the day, man, when you running it with Zeke and Tony Potter like that is a problem. I know sometimes when you look at offensive lineman, they give up a sack or you know, some penalties and you think, well, they're having a bad game. But you know, there's fifty sixty other players that they do. All right, where's Tyler be Odish in this? In your mind? As far as whereas he's how he's playing here, he struggled

a little bit. Now. The one thing about guys inside you can cover them up, you know, in the offensive line. The offensive line is as good as your weakest link. And he when he's on the field, for whatever reason, you know, he just hasn't been able power pusher. And that is really odd because when you think about Wisconsin lineman, you think about Wisconsin and moving people off the ball and the level of success that they've had with guys in the National Football League. He has kind of falling

shorter that standard. That's it. The Cowboys having ability to cover him up. They've been able to kind of hide him within like the collective unit. But he certainly hasn't played well enough to kind of like allow the Cowboys to play at peak performance. Hopefully his play improves and they're able to kind of make up for the weak link that they're kind of protecting. I know you're not in Phil Snow's meeting rooms, so I don't want to

put you on the spot too much. I can't expect you to know this, but just as a general thought, I'm curious they traded for CJ. Henderson on Monday, first round pick out of Jacksonville. He practiced fully yesterday, so he's healthy enough to participate in practice. He's had three days to look at the playbook. What do you do with a guy like that in this scenario. I assume he's going to be active for this game. Can you trust a guy like that to have it all down

and play a full game? Or what do you do in that scenario If it's you, Oh, I'm playing him and I'll put him on the field right away. He automatically goes onto the field in Nickel packages. We've got to figure out a way to work around them. Look, man, it's not real complicated. When you have really talented players, you try and make it very simple for them. And knowing how they think in Carolina, they're gonna make it very easy for him to be able to go play.

I think they're benefited from the fact that a lot of their coaches come from the collegiate game, and when you come from the college game, you're used to doing these quick turnarounds because you may have a freshman that comes off the street. You gotta get them ready to play, so you figure ready to make it very very simple

for the players who has talent can shine. Whether Panthers want is they want to put together a collection of dynamic athletes on defense that can overrun you with their athleticism and speed, and so they will find a way to either lot C. J. Henderson up in man coverage, play some simple sigmon zones, but they're going to put them on the field. I would expect the same player prominent role. Carolina leads the league right now in quarterback

pressures with forty seven. Talk to me about how they're doing it is Is it primarily with just the front four? Do they blitz? Do they do a lot of stunts? Like what are they doing in order to generate the pressure that they're generating against their opponents. It's all of the above they do at all man they line up. If they can beat you with four, they beat you with four. Because their speed, Brian Burns and the speed off the edges can be problematic. If they need to

dial a left and bring some pressure. Their bring shack. Times they're bring some of the other guys to create a their bring corners off the edge. There is nothing in the playbook that they won't utilize. And so one of the things when we talk about speed, because the common denominator is speed, when you have a fast defense, you can create disruption, and disruption brings about those negative

plays and those things. As the Cowboys defense has gotten faster, when you put Mike and some of those other guys on the field, the turners kind of happened because speed creates disruption. And so it's the same thing for the Carolina Panthers. They got more speed on the field. They can run down play with great effort, make up your mistakes with your effort and your athleticism, and that's where they're doing. That's what they have in success, all right.

So tell us who's gonna win what he thinks gonna have on Sunday at noon at at and T Stadium. So I think this is a statement game for the Dallas Cowboys, right because the narrative has changed. Now the conversation around town and around the countries. Oh, the Cowboys are real, They're legit. This is an opportunity for them to be a Super Bowl contendent and all of those things. This is a test of the maturity of the Cowboys.

Have they grown over the past couple of years to being a team that, oh, when they're expected to win, they can win. I expect them to win. But to me, I'm looking to see how do they go about handling their business because this is a game that I think

they should win. Can they go about just chopping win and taking care of business right from the jump, or do they backslide a little bit because of all the noise has been so positive that then they get complacent and they kind of lose their focus on what is really important. All right, but if we appreciate you joining us, we'll be back, thank you again next week and talk a little bit more about the Cowboys Week four opponent. We'll do that. We're gonna take our final break, come back.

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Cowboys offense relative to the Carolina defense. But I want to start I want to zero in a little bit here on the Cowboys offensive line. I want to get some opinions from you guys on how you think, particularly three guys on the offensive live played against Philadelphia, really just how how they've played throughout the year. We talked

a little bit about beadishu, Connor Williams, Terrence Steele. How do you think those three guys in particular have played, particularly last week and over the course of the season as much as they've played. I think Steele, Um, and this isn't really I think if you throw expectations out the window, I think Steele has played the best of those three. Wow. Well, I mean you didn't hear holding seventy eight four times? Yeah, I mean Connor Williams had

a hard time blocking and Beotish costs him fourteen points. Um, yeah, and on both goal lines. He just I thought that that quarterback sneak yes, Dad got in in my opinion, but Beondish went straight to the ground and he had to kind of shift over to the right here. He didn't get any push at all. And of course we know what happened on the other one, so be honest, you know. But they are they are getting four hundred yards of offense, but they were running it, they were

moving it. I don't want to fault them all, but I think in the past game, I think I think they've struggled a little bit there, especially Connor in this last game. Yeah, I'm really I'm conflicted about Tyler Beotish. It's it's that's a hard thing to decipher because I yeah, I think it's fair to call him the weak link of this offensive line right now. I also think it's fair to point out he's he just started his seventh NFL game and somebody somebody called me on that the

other day. They were like, he played all last year. I was like, yeah, he started four times because Joe got hurt, and when Joe came back, he left the lineup. He started four games. He's barely played by NFL standards. He was a fourth round pick. Also, yeah, I think there's some there's some Travis Frederick association going on that doesn't do Tyler any favors, Like he's not Travis Frederick.

Travis Fredrick was the best center in football. Um and and also he's he's gone against Vitava and indamackin sue, Javon Hargrave and Fletcher Cox, which for all, for as much as everybody respects Fletcher Cox, Hargrave is playing better. He showed it freak o. No, by the way, Derek Brown on deck, he's he's gross too. Top ten pick last year. Just hard, hard guy to deal with. And I get it. It's troubling because you're gonna have those

matchups throughout the season. I understand that even you know, the Giants look like they suck. They have Leonard Williams, like it doesn't get easier in the NFL. But I still feel like the guy deserves a little bit of slack. And again the expectation, like you get so used to watching Hall of Fame caliber players play offensive line for this team, you got to make do with less than that in a lot of cases, and Tyler hasn't been so bad that it's thrown the offense off of schedule.

I mean they're moving the ball and scoring points in every game they've played so far, so as you've been great, not at all, am I just breaking all the glass and pressing all the panic buttons. Not yet. So let's let's take this question to the next level. I mentioned when we were talking to Bucky, Carolina leads a league in quarterback pressures. If you look at the other opponent the other opponents at Dallas has faced all three of them in the bottom half of the league and quarterback pressures.

Are you'd all concerned that going into this game that this may be a team that pressures way more than what you've seen. And those two guys, I guess because you guys feel like stell has been pretty good. Those two guys Williams and and be Odist, are you at all concerned about what they're going to be facing this week against the team that sends a lot of pressure and, as Buckie said, sends pressure on a lot of different kinds of ways. Not as concerned because of Zekiel Elliott.

And I don't mean that as a pass blocker. I just mean as a runner. I think that that I don't know what the Jets have in their running game I don't know what Houston has. Saints, you know, they have Kamara, but they don't really use him the way the Cowboys like to use obviously Zeke, and they're in

they're running attack. So I think the Cowboys running attack is going to kind of set the tone of this and maybe keep that, you know, keep the pass rush off a little bit, because you know, like I asked Bucky, I mean, you can have the fastest guys in the world, but I mean they're probably gonna give up some here in the running, he said. He said, safeties are playing linebackers. Linebackers are either hand or the dirt. Well, you gotta

better be able to run on them. And I think the Cowboys have a running game, unlike the other three teams they face so far, to at least offset what some of this pass rush will be. I'm worried about it, and I'm I'm glad you've phrased it that way, because I think we're we're being remiss. We haven't mentioned an important name in this matchup yet. He's actually he's the guy leading the Panthers in sacks right now, and that's Hassan Reddick, former top fifteen pick Arizona had a breakout

year last year. He's in Carolina because I don't know this for sure, but it's a hell of a dot to connect. Matt Rule was his coach at Temple. Matt Rule knows his strengths and knows how to use him. He's a hybrid guy. He can do some linebacker stuff, he can play on the edge. He's got four and a half sacks already this season. He's a Michael Parsons. I mean he's not. He's not. He's like a He's

a bulky or less bindy Micah Parsons. But he you can use him in that Swiss army knife kind of way where you can create a lot of havoc with a guy like that. You can blitz him, you can play him on the edge. He can hold He's big enough to hold up against the run. Now you can get into conversations where you show blitz and drop him,

and now Deck's got to deal with that. So there's just I just say that to say there's a lot of ways that they can throw stuff at this offensive line, and with what we've already seen from those three in particular, yeah, it should be concerning. And I think they're gonna need to call plays to offset that, like they should call their offense to offset pressure, because I think it's going to be coming out of a lot and because they do it in a lot of ways. Why I'm most

concerned is still and be honest in their inexperience. I know Steele got a lot of experience last year, relatively speaking for his rookie year, but that all being said, he still is just a second year player, and so the relative inexperience of those two guys, I wonder how much that can be taken advantage of by a defense that does a lot of different things and has a lot of speed, so you don't have time to react if you if you're lost, like they're gonna be by you.

As Bucky was saying a little earlier, that part does concern me a little bit. Now here's another thing. I want to talk about Dallas's strategy offensively, and we've heard this from Kellen Moore a few times. We aggressively take what the defense gives us. So what do you do when you're facing a team that's equally good against the run and against the pass, When you know you typically look for where they will have a little bit more of a deficiency, and that's where you kind of attack them.

I'm not sold on this secondary and that's and again you know this, it's the NFL. The results are what they are. At a certain point, I don't care who they've beaten. They still deserve credit for doing these things. But you look at the quarterbacks that they've played, and even then the receiver corps that they've played. The Jets have a rookie quarterback behind a bang UPO line with little in the way of skill players. The Saints were a mess that week. It's still breaking in an offense.

Even when they beat the crap out of Green Bay Week one, they only threw for like one hundred and twenty yards. They don't have a Yeah, they don't have skill players beyond Michael Thomas, who's not playing. I mean like they got a bunch of low round guys and Taysom Hill just trying to patch it together. And then Houston. What do I need to say, as if they weren't even with their start, As if Houston wasn't bad enough,

They've got Davis Mills. This ain't that, this is this is dak playing at an MVP caliber with beasts everywhere and a running game. And so I respect Carolina up especially their front. And like I said, if if Carolina is gonna win this game, it's gonna be because they just muck this whole thing up and just beat the offensive line. Yeah. Um, but I'm not sold that this secondary is locked down. Like Dante Jackson is fine, uh CJ Henderson got there Monday. JC Horn's not playing in

this game. Jeremy Chen's a good player. But again, like I'm I'm not sold that this is some secondary that you can't throw on. And I think there will be placed there, agreed, I really, I just I think that their defensive, you know, I think that their defense is gonna be aggressive, but I think there's ways to offset that. And I do think that that Dak is playing with this with this lineup right now, I don't. I don't. I don't know if you would trade him for anybody

right now, I really don't. I don't think you would trade for anybody in the league about what they're doing, what they've got, right I wish you like my Grench heart just grew like three sizes hearing you say that. Well, I just and I'm not saying the best. I'm not saying he's the best quarterback in the league because you can't do that with guys that have won Super Bowls and still playing at a high level. I mean, and

then they're they're there are guys out there. But I don't think you would take the combination of Kellen Moore, Dak the line Zeke just what they're doing right now. You wouldn't. If you say, if you say, give me an offense that you would trade, you wouldn't trade the Cowboys offense for any offense. Yeah, I mean, I mean, myhomes is outstanding, but I mean you wouldn't. Would you rather have Russell Wilson in here doing what Dak is doing with all of this, No, I'd rather the guy.

It's the chemistry. It's like Dave said, the chemistry of everything that's going is that you know he and But here's something that that needs to be said, and we talked about it a lot. There are no divas on this offensive team and it is very tough to do this. You can't just say Cooper three catches twenty four yards, Hey we won that. Cowboys haven't had receivers here all the time, like he Zeek is fine with it. The offensive gallup was fine. CD. They just want to win.

And as much as that sounds like, it's easy, see it around the league, you've seen it with this team. We saw him the other night at the game. It's great, he's great. But Dez wasn't always okay with that situation too. So it's it's not it's easy to say, pick your poison, but sometimes these other players they stay hear this kind of stuff, and I think it's really it's it's really it's a credit to everything that they're how unselfish they've been. I don't want to myth make too much. I mean,

we all we love Dak. We talk about it. Everybody knows I love Dak. But I think a lot of that stems from him. He is he oozes confidence, and he is accessible, you know, and he's he's not aloof he's you know, he's one of the guys. He's he uses confidence in himself, he uses his confidence in all of them. He's the first guy to say, like, it

wasn't there for you there, but I got you. Like he keeps everybody involved, and I think he is a big part of why everybody's just kind of chill with that, honestly, is there just like that, Dak will get me in him, Dak will get me my play sea. They asked CD about that yesterday. CD was open on the Cedric Wilson touchdown last week, and they were like, did you kind

of did you kind of raz Dac about that? You let him know that you were open too, And he's like, Noll, he saw it and he made the best play and he'll he'll come back to me. It's fine. Cooper was wide open on a touchdown that they threw the jar when it gainst the Chargers. They still scored on that drive. Wide open though, And uh, you know, I mean you just like you know you want to score him all that. But but yeah, like you said, like, and that's what

that's what makes this offense so great. It's like whatever you do, Like, I don't have to force the ball to this guy, I gotta get him. As touches who's making fifteen twenty million year a gotta get They don't do that. And I think that's a credit to everybody involved. You gotta give coaches, you know, credit as well. But I think it's Dack more than anything. But I so I don't think Dak is better than Patrick Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers, but I've been thinking that these last three weeks.

I'm just like, he is operating at a level with the best of him right now, not in terms of like how pretty the throws are or the stat lines, but just in terms of the confidence and the comfort and offense making every every decision is the right one, or if they're not the right decision, you get out of it, or you bounce back from the players that don't go right. And it's just it's it's been so

much fun to watch. And here's the thing. He's not a one hundred percent And I don't mean like health wise, I'm talking about he's not at his game just yet because he doesn't want to run right running game is this he's Maybe it's mental, Maybe he's just being smart. Maybe he's like, I don't have to take that risk. But once that gets back, and that's another element and with all this other stuff, watch out man, that's that can even be scarier. But right right now, he just

doesn't he's you know, he's trying to be smart with it. Now. I don't I don't know if I blame him really all right. We appreciate you guy, jona Us. We'll be back on tomorrow. We'll get you guys ready for Cowboys versus Panthers. We'll tell you who we think is gonna win that game on Sunday at noon at at and T Stadium. Till then. For Nick Eatman and Dave Helmet, I am Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live

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