Cowboys Break: The Pollard Dilemma

Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. We're live from s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star War presenter by mill of like the Only Beer of the Dallas Cowboys, and today I think we're actually going to get to the topic that we started a couple of weeks ago, where we're going to identify the biggest question for the Cowboys at each position. We got through the quarterback in the running back position on that episode. We'll start up with tight end today and keep moving through the roster

seeing what we think. But before we get there, I want to talk a little bit about the franchise tag. Yesterday, the NFL Franchise Tag period opened. It will remain open through March seven. So basically, teams have two weeks to be able to identify players that would like to put

the franchise tag on. In March seventh, at four pm Eastern, that window will close, and then they'll start on March thirteenth and negotiating period, that little tampering period where teams can start talking to players about free agency and deals. And then on March fifteenth at three pm Central, that's when free agency will begin. Here's my question for you, guys, who would you use the tag on for the Cowboys.

I'm gonna lay it out for you. You've got, I'm gonna give you four different options, and I'll tell you how much you'd have to pay for them. Some of them may seem well be, but I will throw him out there just for the sake of discussion. Dalton Schultz Cowboys would pay roughly about eleven point three million dollars to put the tag on him. Tony Pollard Cowboys would pay roughly about ten point one million to put the

tag on him. Layton vander esh he would have to pay a whopping almost twenty one million dollars to put the franchise tag on him. And then Donovan Wilson Cowboys would have to pay about fourteen point five million to put the tag on him. Which of those would you put the tag on? Or your other option could be none of the above. I think this is pretty easy, honestly,

because I'm the best guy is the cheapest guy. So to me, I would go Tony Pollard on all day long, because I don't I mean, I don't know if some of these guys, I don't know if you even want

to bring back anyways, and especially for that price. But Tony Pollard, I think at ten point one that you're getting a steel And I think with him specifically, it's perfect time to go one year with him, and you know you're going to draft the running back at some point, and I think it's, you know, him coming back from injury. I definitely wanted for one more year and then we'll see what happens after that. Maybe this is the year that he breaks down. I mean, I mean, knock on wood,

I hope not. But I'm just saying running backs at that age, I mean, at that level of their career, we'll see, you know, what the wear and teary looks like. But I go one year ten point one. I think that's almost a steel. Do we expect then he kind of set back from the injury that I would have some kind of effect in I know he should be ready by training camp, but is that the type of injury that maybe it kind of changes his footwork and speed and game? Really? Yeah, you know, it's one of

those things. It's a It's a really good question because we kind of thought the same thing with Michael Gallup. And I know it's a knee and an ankle or two different things. But you look at when you start to talk about ankles and running backs and they use their feet their legs, is there going to be the flexibility there? You know? Is it going to be the same for him? I don't think. You know, with Tony, he's he's one of those guys that I feel like

that he would bounce back. But with a running back, you don't know. You just don't know, because where is the ankle flexibility? Where's the ability to cut, to break, to turn to pivot? You know, where where are you with all that? It was a pretty significant injury that he had. Me personally to answer your question, I don't tag any of these guys. I don't and I do this for the reason of I have a little bit of advantage because I've looked at all the players in

the college draft, you know. I mean, I've seen the running backs in the draft. I've seen the list of the pro free agents. I'm sure you guys have seen all those names and stuff like that. To me, I'm going to let him go and test this market. I think the Cowboys are fifty fifty on this one. I really really do. I don't. I think there's people in the building that would like to see him, you know, at one year at ten million dollars makes a lot of sense, you know, yeah, you know, if there's that

unknown that you just asked about. You know, I think being in the running back business, especially with tags and contracts and stuff, is dangerous. I think it really really is. As much as I love Tony, I think I feel like they need to kind of start over here with this. I think you could kind of move on from Tony and you might be in a situation too where Tony goes out with other running backs trying to get deals. Well, he's a little bit of a damaged goods right now.

Are you going to give a guy, you know, six seven million dollars a year as a damaged player with that kind of that unknown. But you do know the college running back situation, you do no free agency with the other running backs. I'm gonna take a chance. I'm gonna maybe get Tony Pollard back on a deal that's not going to be tag tag high. So that's kind of where I'm at right there. And if i lose Tony Pollard, then I'm going to trust what I do

very well. I'm gonna draft, you know, I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna draft, and I'm gonna study, and i'm gonna figure this thing out, and I'm gonna get the guy that kind of fits the best. There's several of these backs that have similar qualities to what you get with Tony Pollard. So I'm gonna let him test the market and see what he can get. And if you want to come back to us and say, hey, we got this kind of a deal and you shop

it back to us, maybe we'll consider it. But other than that, I think i'm gonna let I'm gonna let these guys all kind of go test the market. Yeah, money wise, it seems like it would be the right deal. For the Cowboys to kind of put a tag on Pollard. But I am concerned about the injury and just not really knowing. But I do think that it all goes into like in correlation with what's going to happen with Zeke and what are they gonna do that with him.

I just find it very hard to believe that they would have those two running backs here next season, like something's gonna one of them is gonna be gone. I do think that it's hard also for me to see at us both of them being gone. But then to that point, do you what do you do with Zeke? I see I kind of see right now despite the injury, I see Zeke more out the door than I see

taller and taller Poler Tony Poller being out. But you know, I don't know if they if they can come to an agreement to even cut or how much they would even cut zeek salary. You're right, that's the big domino first. I mean, you got to make that decision before you

make some others. I believe, but you know, I just feel like the injury is the reason why the franchise tag makes sense, because yeah, there's there's some unknown but I'm willing to take that chance at the ten point one, mainly because and when he went down, we talked about this. When he went down, I remember being in the press box going it's over, this game is over. And it wasn't you know, they couldn't make a kick to save their life. You know, Mayer wasn't gonna make any kind

of kick until I guess later in the game. But like you didn't feel like you had that weapon, You had nothing going for you. It was just CD. And I'm like, so that for that reason alone, I think I would say I'm gonna bring Pollard back again. Let's see, got one of the best rehab teams there is. I think that he'll be in good shape for there. I mean, the Julius Jones kind of scares me a little bit. High ankle's brain. Second year of his career never really

was the same, So we'll see. You know, that was twenty years ago, but I'm just saying I still think Pollard with one year, I like it, and I like drafting a guy, and draft a guy Pollard, Willie Davis, I'm okay with that. I'm gonna take you back to what you were thinking in that game. Coming back to the old school fools. Yeah. Does that say more to you though about your thoughts on Zeke and whether Zeke

should be here next year? Yeah, yes, yeah, I think I think that Zeke, and we've talked about this on one oh five three the Fan, if that we feel like that Zeke is in the situation of what you had with Dez Bryant DeMarcus Ware. You know, you don't you think so much of these players that you don't want to low ball them so badly that you say, Okay, you're only gonna play here if it's the veteran minimum. They moved on from where they moved on from Dez Bryant.

You know, remember that whole thing with Dez Bryant. It was just kind of what's gonna happen, what's gonna happen, and then you know, he's you know, they're in their draft meetings over here, Jerry and Dez all of a sudden have a meeting and then Dez storms out, never again to be back in the facility. You know, I have a feeling that it's going to be the same way with Zeke. I think there. I don't think they want to I don't think they want to take zeke

salary so low that it's an embarrassment to him. I think they're just gonna move on now again to your you know Pollard question about that, that's if Pollard wasn't hurt to me. I agree about the tag. I agree. The thing is, now that he's injured, I'm gonna bet. I'm gonna bet. Yeah, we got the rehab and all that, but I'm gonna bet that somebody else is not going to see it like we do right here, right now,

and that you can maybe get him back. And it's not that not that ten million dollars that you have to pay. So let's assume for a second that that happened. Is that a better or a worse situation, because then you're now going to have to probably do a multi year deal where I'm thinking maybe if he I'm I'm trying to bet that. I'm trying to bet and the fact I talked to somebody in the league yesterday that's fifty fifty on him. It's not a slam dunk. Yeah.

I talked to one of my gang of seven guys around the league and I said, Hey, where do you see Poard? What would you do? With Pollard and they gave me I'd say it's fifty fifty it really really, you rather do three for twenty five. I'm throwing numbers out here. Three for twenty five, you know, a little bit more than eighty years, probably less per year, but yeah, but but you have three years. Yeah, And I'll that's that's interesting too, because he's at that point in his

career where a running back. You know, you're like, is he gonna get a big deal? Is he not? I'm gambling. I'm gambling only because I know I know that, I know what he is as a player, but I know he's injured to rehab and I don't know, from Ambar's point, how he's going to come back. And do I want to pay? I paid. I already saw what happened with Polar excume me with Gallup, you know, the knee and stuff. I mean, he came back, he was but it wasn't

the same. It just wasn't the same. And now we're like, the team needs are drafted wide receiver, they need a second wide receiver. And now you're like, wait a minute, we just paid for one here. I don't think I'm going down that path again. But if he was, if he was completely healthy, I would I would totally dance with you on this one. But I'm gonna gamble too. I think it's a gamble as well, and I would do it. I think the ten million of the year

is a gamble because of the injury. But I'm willing to do it because I saw what difference maker he was, like, he is a difference And the thing about Zeke, this is the interesting part. I think Zeke would be a really good number two running back for any team that's got a you know, an established, established number one starter. You know, let's say somebody like a Chicago that has a Montgomery and then he comes in and he would be really good. But I don't think he is a

good number too. When you've got Pollard, who've got question marks at number one. That's that's the issue. That's the average amount of years that you give a running back. Pollar's about to go into his fifth year. Yea, that's the The wear and tear on him is not as bad as this was. Zeke and I and I just remember this. I remember this Hard Knocks episode where Stephen Jones was standing next to Mike McCarthy and he was pointing out to Zeke and he goes, man, you guys

have given him a lot of carries. You guys have given you know. And this was two three years ago when that that hard knocks and I'm thinking, well, he's already seen it then, you know, now where are we with zek? I think? I think to me, I think it's a move on. You take your cap hit and then you you go for it. He had like a hate smile, kind of like Steven acknowledges, like stevens Cone's like, well, yeah, yeah,

we have, we've we've he's carried the ball a lot. Yeah, you're right about that, coach translation, Uh, give someone else the ball? Yeah, Like when when I when I when one of the owners comes in and says, um, I think maybe we should you know, like, yeah, any think maybe we should give the boat a Lance Dumbar. I mean I remember when Jerry used to say that. I'm like, oh,

then Lance Dumbar is gonna get the ball. Yeah. I think the interesting thing here is that And I don't know which way I really believe here, but I've I've heard a lot of people with the concept of never give a running back in the NFL, A second deal just because there's just too many other young fresh out

of college facts that you can get from. It can get you similar production for a lot less money in a stra in a capstrack litchtrap league, Like if you were in a league that was like the nineties where there was no salary cap, then go for it. Keep paying them and keep them here as long as you

want to keep them here. But it does make you wonder is it a better just when you talk about the philosophy of team building, it is a better model to say, if I'm going to spend money, it won't necessarily be on a second contract for running back because of replacement value is relatively spend I'm not doing that. I mean, that's why I like the one year deal. Yeah, you're not going to draft the fourth overall pick it

and Zeke. I mean, you're not getting that guy. You're getting some first round maybe second round whatever, and you might have a little bit of a learning curve. Yes, runners can come in the league and make a difference, but you're gonna have a little bit of a curve. I like, my guy have a one year deal. He's coming back from an injury, he's got something to prove as well, to prove that he's worth a big deal. I got him. I'm drafting someone. How high are you drafting?

I mean wherever he falls to me, if if, if the Texas kid is there, the in Dijon, I know there's two. If that kid is there at twenty six, I'm fine with that pick. I really am with with now with five year deal, with five years guarantee, I'm fine with especially running back. I'll take the five years and then I'll probably move on situation. It seems like this guy is ready to play. You've seen him more than okay. We know that there's always okay, one of

a kind. Oh yeah, and you're just looking at the position itself. Obviously you look for talent as well. But how high are you rating taking him off because he's a special Hell, then I like the Alabama kid. Gibbs is a game in the first round. Yeah, I actually, you know, I went to the Arkansas Alabama game and I think he had three hundred rushing yards in the fourth quarter. You remember him from the Texas game. I

do he know. That's That's the thing about That's the only reason why I'm I'm interested to seeing if I'm gambling on Pollard is because I know there's probably six or seven running backs that are legitimate R and it, A and M kid. He's he's a second round kid, I like, I mean, he's a second third fourn This thing is gonna stretch the tank Bigsby. We're gonna have the draft show falling this one today. Yeah, Auburn Tank. Bigsby is a guy that. Yeah. See that's I'm saying,

there's options here. You know. See that's where I'm kind of you know, you've got compensatory picks, You've got all these kinds of things. Here's here's another thing about Pollard. Go go, Look he started four games his whole career. Yeah, okay, in those four games, I gotta look this up. But in those four games, I think the Cowboys have scored forty points every time he's I mean he started a game, I mean average average forty, average forty. Because there was

the Green Bay he scored twenty eight. They're scoring points with them. So I'm just saying, for one year, give I'll give him. I'll give him a one year. I'm not against that. Yeah, I don't know what happened to the running game because when when all the both those backs stopped any kind of production when Steele went out.

You know, I mean there's games were Pollard go go look at them, go gook the game against the Commanders, you know, you play them twice a year, you know, and and both those games were like I'm you know, twenty something yards, thirty something yards, you know it. There were some games where he had one hundred and thirty yards or what I mean. There's but then all of a sudden, Steel gets hurt and the running game goes

to hell. You know, nobody's running the ball, and you're like, going, wait a minute, now, well, why why are we not running the ball anymore? Is it the backs? Is that the line? I mean, I I'm one of these guys that believe putting Tyrn Smith at right tackle was gonna be better, you know, and it wasn't. And that's the interesting thing here, Brian. If let's say, for example, you've got that ten million dollars that you would use on the franchise tag that you tell me, Okay, we're not

gonna franchise him. We're gonna select somebody in the draft, probably gonna be paying him his coup hit will probably be a million or so, and that other nine million I can now use to go out and get me a veteran guard. That's a really good veteran guard. What's a better use of your money? Is it to keep Pollard here on one year franchise tag or is it spending that money on a better, better guard? Can I so now your offensive line is better? Can I keep

Wilson and Vanderish? Maybe? I mean, I mean, it's it's the same philosophy. It's the same philosophy that that that they told Nick and everybody about about with Randy Gregory. Jerry's argument about not paying Randy Gregory fourteen million dollars years says he got three defensive players. Yeah, that's that's the that's the by the way, Durrance's back up right, Yeah, see, that's that's I mean. I was looking at the contracts of Michael Gallop yea, and I was thinking, and you know,

that's a situation that the Cowboys. I don't know if they're looking at that right now, but I would be like, you can get out of this deal after nixt after this year, this year, after this you could get out of it. Yeah, but you could also save about eight million dollars. If you said, we think he's going to be a good receiver for us, let's let's extend him a little bit. Let's extend his deal, lower his cap right now, and push him out a little bit. You know,

you could do that. You could save some money as well. So, I mean, there's a lot of different that's a risky one just because you don't know what that's gonna mean two or three years from now exactly. I mean, I don't gallop. Gallup had one game with fifty yards or more of this year and that was sixty four. It wasn't like he was you know, he had more games

with zero than he had over fifty, right, something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for that amount of money, And that's a that's a risk if you if you choose wrong on that one. All right, let's take our first break when we come back. We're going to dive into this the question of what's the biggest problem or question the Cowboys have to solve at each position. We're going to start with the tight ends when we come back. This is the Dallas Cowboys

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is for you guys is pretty simple. It's what's the biggest question that the Cowboys have to answer at each position? That could be about a player contract, that can be about player performance, whatever you want to path you want to go down, But we're gonna talk about the position. Let's start with the tight end position. We've already talked about running back and quarterback in our last show, so

let's talk about tight end Nick. Which what do you think is the biggest question for the Cowboys this year in at tight end? Um? Who's who's the starter? I mean, like, who's who? Who are they gonna have to replace? Um? Dalton Schultz And that's what I think he would go to free agency. I think he'll probably get a deal and if somebody will will pay that based off of production. And then then is do they feel like Ferguson is ready to be the starter there? Or do they draft

or they sign someone. I'm here, I think they will sign somebody. But um, you know, I just just kind of what do they do with that third spot. Do they feel like it's just another draft pick? Or they did they get a veteran Maybe I could see a veteran guy that's kind of more of a blocker. You know, these two, these two young guys were good. Would it kill you guys if they took the best tight end in the draft at twenty six? Yes, No, wouldn't kill me. I will tell you this. Let me put it. It's uh,

it's Michael Mary six five. He's two sixty five from Notre Dame. Can he be Kelsey or Kittle? He can? He? Yeah, he's out the ability to he's he doesn't have the great speed, but there's plenty of routes where you see him doing stuff that same kind of game, the dragging, the up the field stuff all that. Let me ask you this, what I heard. What I heard about him

was he is more in the mold of Witten than Kelsey. Yeah, and the reason why and the reason why that makes no no, no, no no no. But here's why it makes a difference to me. Yeah, if I'm willing to pay that higher premium a first round pick on him, I really need him to be a mismatch problem for other teams. I don't know that Witten was ever a mismatch problem. Whitten just had a knack for you. Put a linebacker on me, stirred down. I'll find a way to get open.

I'm gonna catch the ball. You're gonna tackle me first down. We moved the chains. Isn't that a mismatch? Well, no, But the difference, I mean, the cowboy history, the difference is, the difference is coming up here tomorrow. The difference is a mismatch type player. The one I'm talking about, a Kelsey type is he's now he's out wide. Yeah, he's all over the play. You don't know where he's lining up. He's down the field like he does a lot more things. And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm not

diminishing what Witten does. I'm saying, if I'm gonna pay a premium like you gotta steal getting Jason Witten in the third round. Yeah, first round. We got lucky attacking that draft, No doubt you did. We did. We had a first round. He was our last player. And that the reason I asked that was Witten's grade was a one one nine. The lower the grade, the better, So one one nine would be the very last player in the first round. So if you had twenty names, he

was number twenty. And so all of a sudden, and this was a draft that was pretty deep. LJ. Smith, Sidler, Dallas Clark from Iowa. They had, there was players. I mean, people were like, well, I'll take this guy, I'll take this guy. And so Witten just kept going down the board and finally it's like, you know, Jerry LuxI Bill and like, we gotta take Witton, don't we. It's a first Fronily like, yeah, we'll take him. Now here we go, let's turn the card in, you know the kind of thing.

So if you're telling me that you can get Witten, the guy that has that kind of longevity, it could potentially lead the team in receptions about his career. I'm I'm I'm more open to that, and I'm not I wouldn't be as disappointed in that. But I understand what you're saying, because Luke Musgrave from Oregon State fits the guy that you're talking about. But that might be a guy that when you talk about Mayor is the first round guy, and then Musgrave is just right there, just

right below him as far as that goes. But I think that you're trying to replace Schultz, am I? I I think so. I think I think the Cowboys are trying to I don't know about you. Well, I guess the reason why I said why I said again that sounds weird, And the reason why I'm saying that is because when I talk about those two types of tight ends right now, the way I'm looking at it is overall, my offense needs more firepower. I got it. That's the problem.

And so I don't need necessarily a third down type tight end. I need a tight end it's going to create problems. That's gonna catch the ball, run twenty yards, jump over someone and then just bulldoze someone else, loses helmet, los his helmet running. No, no no, no, I'm talking about what Ferguson did. I got a fourth round pick out of Scholtz. He's developed into a pretty good touchdown catcher, and he can make no, no, no, not at all. He can go, he can walk backwards or where where.

You know. I'm good with the tight ends you have right now. And that's also another reason why him no, not at all, because as a matter of fact, because not only that, the reason why when you look at even taking a tight end the first round, the reason I was hesitant initially is so much because I'm like, I believe in the two tight ends you got. I think you have enough at tight end. So I look at a lot of other positions where I'm like, man, I need a lot more around on this team that

I need tight end. That's what I'm like. Literally, I'm just sitting here listening to you guys, and tight end is one of my least problems right now in my mind of problems and positions of needs. Um, I do get the point that tight end is a very very important position, especially for a guy like Dak. Dak does tend to rely and need the help and comfort of a guy that can be there and secure in tight end.

But I think that what Ferguson and what Hendershot have done this year or did last year, it impressed me enough to believe that they are more than capable of taking another step in this coming year. You do need another guy to come in there. But I am sorry, Brian, I am not looking to draft. I mean, that's the thing. You don't know what the player is going to become until they become that. You don't know if Jason Witten was gonna be Jason Witten. So for this specific year,

I'm looking at it. I would rather draft a wide receiver than a tight end right now. I can't wait till episode one hundred and sixty five when Derek when we launch into Derek about this tight end and you feel you feel like the tight ends are getting the best out of the tight ends, and Derek is going to have amnesia about this thing. Honestly, again, I just I don't feel like Ferguson is far off from being

able to provide what Schultz provides. Sure, So for me, I'll take the chance that I think that he'll be fine. Do you think we're gonna try to cut Ferguson after the end of this training camp? No, because that's what it was. Yeah, And by the way, let's let's be clear, Schultz has been a good tight end from Cowboys. Oh yeah, he's gotten let's not, let's not, let's not look over that. And I think he's gonna get paid this offseason by somebody. Yeah.

I don't think the Cowboys in a position where they have to pay him because they have alternatives. They got other options. Yeah. Yeah, And you look at you know those guys that you mentioned in the previous segment, like Donovan Wilson, Layton vander esh Um, Tony Pollard and then and then uh this guy, I meant Schultz, all of the lost this guy. Yeah, he's already out. He's already

I'm looking into my world. Yeah. No, No, those four guys, you trust me five hours a day, right, But he they got better when when Scharltz got hurt, like like, they won games. I mean, you know, Cooper Rushman and they still Man, I'm just saying, but Tony poll is the guy that I think when when he went down, he saw a big difference. So that's why there's other

three they were able to win games. Let me ask you this, would you feel Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna throw the Schultz thing out there again on the tag again, and I'm gonna ask you this. No, No, I'm because I'm worried about the wide receiver Roote. I'm worried about the wide receivers in this draft. I'm worried about the wide receivers in this draft. This, this draft class is not what we've seen from the last two or three years. So I mean we could all throw out. Let's draft

the wide receiver. Okay, it's a five ten kid from North Carolina, you know, I mean, whoa, whoa? Whoa? What did we just wait? Where's Chase? You know? Where's Jefferson? Where's Lamb? To become free? Okay, I'm gonna ask you this question. Not much Okay, get ready, get ready, get ready to get Would you feel better? Would you feel better? And let's do you think the owner would feel better if they did tag Schultz and got Odell Beckham? No, I don't do. Those two things have to be tied

together like I just tied together for you. I'm not. I'm not gonna. I'm willing to say yes, I will look at I want to look at somebody like like like like Odell. Yeah. I don't. Still don't think the right option is you have to bring back Sheltz. I think you got tight end options now again, but she just talked about Dak and like how he relies on a tight ends, but he has Ferguson Ferguson Hendershot can provide that for him. I don't think you. I don't think you have to go out and get shelts in

order to get that. And by the way, this goes back to the original point I was making. Because of what I think about the wide receiver class of free agents, because of what I've heard about the draft class of wide receivers, if you can give me a tight end who can create matchup problems, then you can do something similar to how an offense can run when you have

those types of tight ends. Now you got that kind of tight end with a CD Lamb, that's that can really create some problems as opposed to having to have two really great wide receivers. Right. I like it. Look, Ryan's not buying it, but no, no, I'm buying it just because I'm a I'm nervous about how this wide receiver draft class is gonna shake. Because if Adam we'll talk about on the Draft show it's after this show, but we'll talk about it here a little bit. If Addison, Hyatt, Johnston, Smith,

and Jigbo all are gone. Now you're looking at You're looking at a completely different group of wide receivers. So would you take one of those guys in the first round if they were if one falsey, which one like you just mentioned? The three I have is Addison from USC, Hyatt from Tennessee, and Johnston from TCU all all first round guys, and then Smith and Jigbo from Ohio State is on the top of the second round. Now if I've only got twenty names in the first round, so

you would take him at twenty six? Maybe at twenty six, I'm kind of yeah. I mean that's but don't feel like that at twenty six that you know someone's gonna have. I think make a mistake for you to get one of those top guys. And I'm saying if you if the names I just mentioned, they would be behind guys that we've seen in this last draft. So even though the first round, ye, so a g don't be going on. My wide receiver group has got to get better. I don't know if I can help you, my friend, I

don't know if I can help you right now? Where you trade twenty six for for a receiver. You know what this this owner digs just you're talking about I mean, you know what I'm what I'm saying is are you talking about going out and getting a premiere wide receiver in the NFL? Like trade that if you can get a premier wide receiver. Yeah, I'm not a name of names I mean, but I mean, if he's related to anybody on the team, there you go. See that's what

I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. If he is, I see this guy, this owner has a history of Back's brother plays in the league, but he doesn't. He tweets a lot, but he does. What about's brother had a brother? I don't know. Okay, go ahead. So but the thing about it is, though, if you're looking at wide receiver, that's not a bad that's not a bad thought. Because the one thing this ownership has proven is they will move draft capital for wide receivers, whether you like it

or not. Joey Galloway, Roy Williams, you know, Mary Cooper, they will move draft capital. Go get wat Has that worked it worked? I would say it worked. We'll see. But I'm trying to What I'm trying to do is I'm gonna get you an established wide receiver like a guy like Diggs. Yeah, I said it. You know, I don't you know, Dallas Cowboys dot Com. It's not their fault,

it's my fault. I'm not Look, the point at the point is what you're saying is would you be willing to take because of the lack of talent at or perceived talent at in free agency at wide receiver the draft? Would you be willing to go out and spend that first round pick if you could get a high caliber I'm talking top ten wide receiver in the NFL. They talked about Mike Mike Evans. Mike Evans is a name. It's being floated for a lot of people. It's being

floated like, oh, you could go get Mike Evans. He's had one year on a twenty three million dollars contract, got one year left on a twenty three million dollar contract. Look at the end of the day, a draft pick are we talking there for a guy like that? Would see That's what I'm saying. If somebody, somebody with somebody holds that's what I'm saying, you wouldn't give you know, you know, if you're picking in the top ten, you surely wouldn't do this. But if you're if you're, if

you're that focused on we've got to have a wide receiver. Now, that might be your best route that guy, I don't know. We talked about other players, but I don't know. I don't know. I don't know Jen Tolber, who is still under development. Yeah, and maybe that's a scary thing. That's the scary thing when you start talking about wide receivers. Some of these cats. I mean, you you end up drafting like you know, some of these teams, I mean they rager goes and you know, you just get lucky

with some of these receivers and where they fall. Yeah, I just I think that right now, the most glaring problem for this team. Need for this team is they gotta get more playmakers, because I agree with you, Nick, when Polite went out of that game, it to me it felt like your your opportunity to make big plays and certainly just to scare the opposing defense was gone other than CD. And if you've got only one guy

that scares a defense, they're gonna take him away. And so they need more juice on the offensive side of the ball. So I'm I'm drafting a back at some point, and I'm looking for whether it's free agency, whether it's a trade, whatever it is. I'm looking for another playmaking type offensive player where the offense tighten something. You know, I'm out on the first round or any round. Really trade trading for veteran receiver. I can't do that. Come on, man,

you've done it twenty years of your life. I know, I know, but but but you've got to pay CD. CD is gonna be on your team. You gotta pay CD. You've already paid Michael Gallup, and you're gonna say, hey, guy gave us, you gave us the parachute. Pull on on Gallop. If we had to, right, you can, you can, But I don't think I would do that. I think I would actually do the whole move him out for four or more year after this year, spread it out.

He's gone, Oh, you're saying, you're saying your restructure, your restructure, and just out, Hey, she's not too happy with you, right, I don't know. I'm gotta look at her Gallup fifth year. I know you got a different opinion. Gallup is the guy that you will you can change your opinion about him, fourteen times during the season. Yeah, like like he's like, oh see, he does make those catches. He's a good player. And then other times you're like, did he play yet? Right, Yeah,

he played twenty six. They're taking a corner and I'm fine with that. Get ready for that. I'm not against that at all, not against that. I mean, you said tied in. I was like, well, if he's like those two, I can see it. Receiver, I can see it. Running back, I can see it. Is he a big nasty guard that can come right in and plug. That's a That's another thing from that guy. There's there's a lot of position when you start really breaking it down, like the

linebacker they're gonna need. They got needs at linebacker right now, I think, all right, let's take our final break. When we come back, we will we will talk about the wide receiver position, and we've talked about it a little bit. We'll get into a little bit more well that when we come back. Dallas Cowboys, I come radio. The season is finally here. For months. We've been gearing up to win. Now it's time for the team that performs on any field.

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this was something I knew that I didn't mean. I didn't mean to bring up something that you didn't supposed to know. But but yeah, I guess we got the date. So yes, yes, yes, Bryan An, you're gonna get a box. You're gonna box the at and T Stadium. You're not the last concert I went to. You get all the time. It's like, hey, show up for those great concert concert I went to. No, last concert I went to was Rodneo and Joe Cooley. Oh really that tells you anything.

I was in I thought it was. I thought it was exactly. You don't boys them in in Vegas. No, I'm not act I'm like, I can listen to music in my house or in my car. I don't need to go to a concert for But I know a lot of people love concerts. That's just not my thing. We'll go see if you have a chance. Yeah, And now here's the deal. I might be there because my daughter wants to go. There, you go, life wants to go there, you go. You know, I'm just not a

concert people be in college. Hey, trust me. Yeah, it's that's September. You're gonna have to take on seven more jobs like I have. Yeah, I kind of a deal. I don't want to do it. Talk about these wide receivers' talk about these bid receivers. The biggest question Cowboys have to answer at wide receiver. We got three minutes Nick Michael Gallop. Can Michael Gallab be the guy you know Ken Kenny or the number two guy opposite of Ceedee Lamb? You can't. You look at the Tampa game that they

lost Week one. I mean the receivers there were Dennis Houston, Noah Brown and CD and the Buccaneers won that game because they neutralized CD and no one else could hurt him. They Michael Gallop has got to figure out. They got to figure out ways to get him to be a really good number two receiver. What's up with Jalen Tilbert? Yeah, I gotta figure that one out. A good question. What's

up with Jalen Tilbert? They told us that, you know, Stephen Jones came on you know it's come on various platforms and said, you know, maybe we gave him a little bit too much. Mike McCarthy kind of said the same thing. Where where are we at with Jalen Tilburg? That's gonna be if you want to talk about with can you get Lamb's contract done? Which you know that they're gonna go full steam ahead on that one. The

Gallop stuff. To me, the big question is is Tolbert a guy that you're going to be able to rely on? And how do they and now do you worry about with a new play caller, do you worry about him having to learn something completely different? We'll see true? To me, it just feels like there wasn't really much progress made from a year ago when we were at training camp trying to figure out what's happening with wide receiver right now?

The only guy that you feel that you can now rely on a City Lamb and kind of what And it took him a little second there to get going, but he did it and he showed a huge step in his game, I thought. But other than that, everybody else you want to mention, We talked about Michael Gallup like he's a guy that, based on why we saw this past season, that's not a guy that I'm like thinking I can rely on or consider a threat or

a weapon currently. He's made certain really great plays, but there's nobody else and here I just I just hope we're not at training camp figuring out or having the same similar conversation that we were having a year ago. But I'm gonna disagree with you on that, just because Ceedee Lamb was that big question Mark two, like is can he be the number one? I mean that was one of our twenty questions. I was like number four, like can Ceedee Lamb be the number one? And I

think that has been answered, which that helps. Now. Yeah, I took him a little second, he got there, and I don't think it's like he's the only guy. No, I'm worried about the number two receiver. He's worried about number three receiver and all that stuff. So I mean, you're right. See there's still gonna be questions at receiver, but I do think they're in a little better situation because you know that CD has proven he could be

the guy. Well, the question also could be too if some of they draft, could they be better than Gallop and Talbert? You know, depending on where Yeah right away? Did they come in and fit or do you have another year like you had with Tilbert. I don't think you can afford that. No, you gotta be honest with you.

I could very easily see a scenario, and I know what everybody here doesn't see it, but I could see a scenario where you're going to training camp and you have a very similar wide receiver room is what you had last year. Because things just don't pan out for you in the draft. Things you just don't pan out for you in free agency. There's just not the there's not the level of opportunity out there to be able

to add an impact player. You might get a guy that's equivalent to a you know, to a Gallop, or a guy that's equivalent to a Noah Brown. I don't know that we're gonna go to camp. I think it's a real possibility you could go to camp and still have this type this type of wide receiver room. The numbers will well, obviously you'll get back up because you're probably gonna lose no Brown. I would guess. I don't know,

he might be back. But the point is I could see a scenario where, because of limited options, you go back and you run it back with what you got. I know, and I don't know that anybody wants that, but I think that might be where you are. This is not like Brian was saying. This doesn't sound like it's a draft where you're gonna be in the second round. You still got plenty of wide receiver. You're gonna be in the third round. You've got plenty of wide receiver options.

Doesn't seem like it's that kind of draft. You look at the free agency list. I know Patrick Walker did an article where he was kind of laying out some of the free agency and free agency and wide receiver and I looked at that list and thought, is that it like it wasn't anything that excites you. These are the kind of guys that are equivalent, in my opinion, to Gallop And so, yeah, you could go get one of those guys, but I don't know that you're appreciably better.

And that's the point. You want somebody that's better. The only person that really right now is on the horizon that looks like he might be better. Could be a healthy Odell Beckham junior. That's it in my opinion. Guys on the street, on the street, and you've done all the guys that you project will be free agent, and you've done a lot of legwork on that one. Yeah, you've done a lot of leg where that's not flying blind. You know what it's probably gonna take there. All right,

we appreciate you, guys. Jan Us we'll be back next week. We'll get a little deeper into this look. It looks at like at this point we might finish it right before training camp. We'll see how that goes till then. For Nick, even Brian brought us a regard to see. I'm Derek Eagles and this have been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.