Cowboys Break: The Need For OBJ?

edition of The Break. We were laughing that SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star presenter by mill of like the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys, and we're talking about a crazy, crazy win by the Cowboys, fifty four to nineteen beat down of the Indianapolis Colts. That the score, I don't know if it necessarily reflects what the game was throughout, but say it as you as you want to. At the end of the day, Cowboys score a ton of points, have a crazy fourth quarter and end up

with the win fifty four nineteen. At home, let's talk about the story of the game. What is the story who of the game? For you guys? With so much that happened there throughout that game. Nick will start with you. I thought they had an OBJ like performance. They were dynamic, they were electric, they were exciting, they were talented. They did the things that you're looking for when you try to describe a player that you may want to add

to your team. They showed that, especially on defense. You're not supposed to have an explosive defense like that, and they did. I mean I kind of disagree a little bit. I think the score was exactly the way the game was. And I always go back to one game two thousand and seven Patriots Cowboys. They were two undefeated teams. The Patriots went undefeated. The whole year Cowboys were undefeated. Was

a clash. They were within it for a while, but as you just continue to play, as the game sixty minutes goes out, you realize, yeah, they're a lot better than you and all that. And I think that Cowboys did that. Yeah. I think, um, they were able to recover from how the game started. I mean, they started pretty inconsistently, not fast. They got better as it when they were making certain mistakes, even when Dak threw the interception and you're like, oh, here we go again. But

they were able to pick it up, skeety lamb. He like, wow, he had one of his best games yesterday. He was playing and I know people and Brian, you saw a tweet that I thought was pretty funny. It's just like, um, I forgot what it says, specifically, like he doesn't want Odella here right, playing like he doesn't want here, which was pretty funny because just the way that he was playing in something. It was just another level, another energy

that he had yesterday. It was like with some grunt in him, like like he had some power to him. So that was really really exciting to see an offense and seeing him play that way as well as the you know, the running game was working too. So it's just when you start seeing every single piece working out, it just gets you really really excited to what this team has ahead and what they can be when they

get to the playoffs. Yeah, dan Quinn figured out yesterday that his four man rush wasn't getting home, so all of a sudden, the adjustment that he makes is now you're gonna bring linebacker pressure. You're gonna bring you're gonna bring safety pressure, and then that's how you're gonna get the sacks. And that's how you're gonna get. I think that they're I think the Cowboys defensive reputation was preceding them in this football game because I look at the

way that that Matt Ryan. I mean, it was like he was not really interested in sitting in there and delivering a football. Several wide throws, several throws that were, you know, really not on target for him, and you know, it just became a real struggle for them to have to pick up the front, the blitz and things like that. So you know, when you watch enough tape of the Cowboys defense, you see how they attack you and the last thing you want to be doing is holding the football.

I think it was another really good game of playing run defense. I felt like that Hankins has been worth his weight in gold. And that's a lot of weight and a lot of gold right there, because this guy doesn't get moved off the spot. You've got guys that are you know, You've got guys like Wilson and vander esh and these guys they tackled, they had bar back. I think he played pretty well for you. So yeah, your defense just kind of you know, the offenses. Ambar

was saying, you know, she always asks this. Get off to a good start, Get off a good start. I mean, you couldn't have got off to a worst start to start the second half. Then they get the ball at the fifty yard line and go nowhere, you know, and you're like, damn it, what's going on here? You know, find a way to kind of get the rhythm going. But you know, you were able to kind of, you know,

the defense kind of kept you in this game. And the more that and we've talked about this, the more you score, the harder it was going to be for the Colts. And then once you've got that rhythm, like and Bar was talking about with your receivers, the running game, the quarterback, the offensive wine, that's when the avalanche came.

And you know, we were expecting that that the Colts couldn't score, and you know, I mean I think it was the like the third or fourth highest toll they've had for the for the season, and that was only nineteen points. So that kind of shows you where you're at going into that one and how you were able to finish it off. Yeah. The interesting thing is I think what's getting lost in this for some fans. First of all, if you can't find Joy in a fifty

four to nineteen drubbing of the opponent. Then what are you doing as a fan, Like maybe you need to just reevaluate whether you really want to be a fan of the sport or not. But one thing I think that's getting lost in that conversation is this is a team that's scrappy, and they have been scrappy in some games. They took Philadelphia to the wire, Philadelphia ends up winning with a touchdown they're late in order to take a

one point lead and to win that game. This is not a team that and we talked about it last week, and I told people last week that I talked to it's like, this is not the kind a team where you usually when you look at him and you're like, oh, this is a foregone conclusion. The Cowboys are going to just destroy them. You just don't know. And they've been playing better football since their head coach was fired, ironically, and that's what you saw there in the first half.

I think in the second half, which you saw is what good teams do. Nick, you hit the nail on the head. Good teams they figure it out at some point and then they just start kind of it starts piling on because they're just better. They're just better. Yeah, they were. They did a really I just felt like when you look it over, I thought it was a

really nice game plan too. I know there was some stumbling a little bit with the offense, but the fact that I'm encouraged by what I'm seeing with them moving Seedee Lamb around and getting him in motion and getting

him opportunity to separate and things like that. And I you know, you're going to give Michael Gallop some credit on the first touchdown that he had his ability, he was you know, he was going to be The play was designed a bunch formation, and all of a sudden that it wasn't open what he'd do, he stopped and then he saw Dak break and he took off running, you know, and it's like, listen, I had just stand here. I gotta keep going, and he did and he got the ball and then he got in, you know. And

that's what this team is doing. It's finding ways to manufacture stops, it's finding ways to score touchdowns when they get opportunities, and I think that's the right thing. I think what you're also seeing is this is a pretty deep team. This is a really deep team, and you know they're battle tested in a lot of ways just because of some of the adversity that they've had to deal with. So you do see some young guys stepping up and making plays. You talk about the rookie class

and things like that. You know, they've done a really, really nice job of having to incorporate a lot of kids and they're making plays. Look at Dak Prescott's a day he had as he was twenty of thirty, sixty seven percent completion rate, one hundred and seventy yards, three touchdowns, one I and T one hundred point seven quarterback rating. Nick,

what do you think of his play particularly? And I want to focus in on all these three first three quarters because it was kind of some up and down moments where the offense was good and the offense was not so good. What were your thoughts on play? I thought, I thought he played pretty well. I mean, I'm trying to go back. I mean, it's funny because the fourth

quarter just kind of clouds everything. As far as you know, it's hard to go back and remember some of the game, some of the first couple of drives of the game. But but I you know, I thought it was. It was pretty good. They they they stumbled, uh somewhat. Um, but you know, he he was, he was solid. I think at the end of the night, his his you know, his ratings, one hundred and three touchdowns. Um. I'm trying to go back and even remember the interception. I don't

even remember. I know, I know he threw one, but I thought it I thought they bumped the receiver a bit, but I mean it was it would have been it would have been a They probably would have thought it was a Tiki tech face masks, a face mask off the line that that's what they missed. They missed the face mask there. But I don't think the bump was was a penalty so much. Um. But you know, I gotta give the Cowboys credit. I know that's not what you're asking, but you got to give him credit for

the three penalties. I mean three penalties, especially when one of them right off the bat with Joseph and then right off the bat and the second quarter, I mean the second in the second half with Ferguson, and that was the only two other than a PI from Bland. I mean, I thought, for the most part, you know, we knew this was going to be a crew that throws a lot of flags. But I thought the Cowboys stayed pretty disciplined. Best for Dak, I thought I thought

he was solid. He did what he needed to do, didn't throw an interception up for the half that was big over them, even threw to the middle. I tried look at hold those shoults. But now I thought he I thought he played pretty well. He didn't run at all. It didn't feel like he needed to. Really. Yeah, the running back feed and Speed did a great job for you with her twenty nine carries and there one hundred and sixty eight yards and three touchdowns. You know, I

just keeps a good back. Yeah, that's feed and Speed is a really bad it's a really good back. And that's what I really That's that's what this team is going to be all about and went forward. It's going to be can those two guys find ways to combine and have you know, whether who gets how many carries, it doesn't matter if they were close. One gets seventeen, one gets fifteen, you get one hundred and sixty eight yards. You answer with the three touchdowns right there, You're going

to make your quarterbacks life really, really easy. Playing these games. You know something that I don't think we've talked about a whole lot, And going back to the topic of when we were talking about Mike McCarthy and what he's done with this team and even Kellen Moore what he's done with the offense, is their ability to adjust in the middle of the game. They're like, for the longest time, for a couple of years, they were incapable on Cape.

I don't even know what's the right word, but they were. They could not damn bad at it, exactly damn bad at it. They could not adjust to save their lives. Like it was terrible and the other team would end up coming back and kicking them. But now we see a team, whether they end up with a win or loss, regardless, they have a very good ability to adjust and going back and I know we're talking about that, but real quick, going back to even the defense and what you were

talking about, Brian, the defense struggled at the beginning. The den Quinn figure out a way to kind of adjust and just make it work and make and stop the opposing team and just completely dominate them. So doesn't aspect an aspect that I don't think we've kind of pointed out and talked about a whole lot and going back to Dyke, he that applies with him as well, his ability to kind of, I guess, recover from his mistakes and just kind of adjust throughout the game and try

to play a more clean game with the offense. I think it's very notable, and honestly, I know that there's a lot of d criticism out there, but it does deserve a lot of praise in that aspect. Let's talk about the running game. Running game obviously was really really good yesterday. Had thirty four rushes for two hundred and

twenty yards a six point five average, four touchdowns. Pollard had twelve carriage for ninety one yard, Zeke Head seventeen carries for seventy seven yards for twenty nine Millie David. But but yeah, just all the way around, the running game was really really impressive yesterday. Uh then after the game there was a little question as to why exactly Pollard got the start. I'll start the question really with doesn't even matter now, it does, does not matter what

the deal is. It just that's it's just an annoying, you know a little bit when you get you get four different answers um and the owner said. The owner says that there's there's something wrong, you know with I mean with Zeke, and a disciplinary issue with his cell phone wasn't major. He wasn't sent home from the bowl game. I mean, like he he gets to play, so gets the slag. It's still a credit card there, get the

Belt Bowl. Come on now. I don't know why you gotta sprinkle that news out there, but like that, but um no, I think I think he played in seventeen carries. I mean he played whatever. It was like, oh sorry, sit down for a second, and now you come in and he ran and pissed off and I thought he ran really well. Zeke did. Um whatever it is, you know, but it's just weird of like, you know, Zeke's like, it's not a big deal. You know, this is what

I wanted to do. And Dak was like, yeah, we want to mix it up a little bit and was like whatever it is, just just just give him the ball. Who cares? At this point, it doesn't matter, Brian said it best. It doesn't matter. These guys are are interchangeable. Zeke is scoring. I mean these poler's scoring up the middle and the three yard run. He's showing he can be a short yardage guy at times. Not all the time, but at times. And then, you know, I think Zeke's

doing a nice time. Zeke hasn't really been kind of at your outside guy, but he did bust one there. You know, I don't remember when it was in the game, but I thought he had a nice little run to the outside. He can start a little high step. It was down there by the goal line. You know, you kind of looked like old Zeke for a little bit. So whatever it is, it's working, you know, if a cell phone's going off into meetings, whatever it is. I don't think it's flashbacks of that run you were talking

about down the sidelines. Because somebody sitting next to me the press box was like, it's fantasy football. And the first thing I thought of was Derek with his fantasy football team and stuff like that. In this he was watching. He was like, ze go, go go, and I'm like, bro, really he goes? He was like, he goes fantasy football. He's got a score right there. You remind me a guy's door. It was a glorious fantasy for me last night. Defense.

But you know, Nick, you're not talking about it during the game as you were watching Zeke, and really it's been over the last couple of weeks. He has a little bit of burst that I haven't seen from him in a while. There was one run last night where you could clearly see the whole open. He's exploded through it.

And that was one of the things that we hadn't been seeing from Zeke in a while that you could see the difference from Paula was in there because he does he has that explosiveness and you hadn't really seen that from Zeke consistently. But I think he's starting to get a little bit more of that. He feels he seems a little bit shiftier, He seems like he has a little bit more healthy. First, maybe the health is the big issue there, right, And Nick, I think you

mentioned that last night. When has he been healthy like this? It's all around. I do think that. And it doesn't matter which one is in there. They were using them both and using them both well. And pride has got a factor into it as well. I mean, Zeke has been the man and now all of a sudden, Tony Pollard is coming in there, and and whether or not, I mean they are. I think they're they have a

great relationship. I don't think it's a problem. But like if any alpha male in the world sees, you know, another guy coming in and making in some plays and doing that, it's gonna he's if he's got anything to him, and we know Zeke does you know, it's kind of I think they they've carried each other in a healthy way. Tip of the cap two to some couple of positions. Tyler Biadas played his best game at center, and then also the wide receivers. All the crack toss stuff that

they ran. You got helmet stickers for Gallup for Lamb, for Brown, all those guys every time yeah, blocking every time the ball got to the edge, it was it was a crack a seal by the receivers. Great job by them. And now you're getting big bodies in space and stuff like that. So they did some that with

the toss sweep stuff was really effective. But I felt like that watching the All twenty two that Tyler Bodish by far had one of his best games and you start talking about some of the pickups inside the pass protection and then what he was able to do in the running game one on one with Buckner several times in that in that game, you know that they were able to have some positive yards. Yeah, you could tell that they're they're doing some things with that offensive line,

shuffling and around little bits. The end about when Tyring comes back, you know that they're getting Tyler Smith's some work at left guard. But man, that touchdown run by Pollard down the left sideline where Tyler Smith, Yeah, I mean he looked like Sunshine from remember the Titans. He was just running and blocking and running and blocking, and he was down there with him at the same time. I mean, I thought that was I mean, that was impressive.

I mean, they have a good problem to have here with all with with their offensive line and Tyring coming back and what they're gonna do with McGovern and Tyler Smith and Peters is getting some work. I mean, it's it's it's a pretty good it's a good problem to have. Yeah, we're gonna take our first break when we come back. We're gonna talk a little bit more about the wide receivers particularly and what they're doing and how much that should or shouldn't factor into what's going on with OBJ.

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Michael Gallup had four catches on seven targets for twenty three yards and two touchdowns. Question for you guys the emergence of Ceedee Lamb and Michael Gallup, which I think by over the last few weeks, we started to see those guys step up in a bigger way and make more impressive plays for this team. But all that being said, do you think that should make the Cowboys more or less feel like they really need to land Odelle Beckham Junior. Do you think it matters at all? Does that matter

at all? Honest? The answer to the question would be, I think that they don't need Odell as much as everyone thinks they do. I really don't think that they need him so much, especially for what it might take. But again, I'm not saying not to sign him, but need him for for what I mean, Like, they can win these games without, you know, without it, but like as Brian mentions, a lot of the time, it's gonna get tough when an ear in the playoffs and it's gonna get fourth and three and all that, and who

do you want out there? I mean, they can win these games and they can be dynamic without him. But but I've seen great football teams in the last twenty years. I've seen them. I'll also see them go home in the divisional round. At some point, you got to get somebody that can take you over the top, and maybe he could be that guy. Great movie, by the way, over the Top too. It's a really good bad movie. Yeah, yeah, good bad movies over top. Now That's what I was

thinking too, is it's do you need him? Okay? Now, with the way that they play, I mean not to say exactly what you just said, but that is exactly how it is. They've been playing each week after week they keep playing better. I think CDs complimenting Michael Gallup and they're complimenting each other the longer they go with

practicing and being around Dak Prescott. And that's something that they've mentioned themselves, like CD and I'm talked about it that just spending more time with Dak after him being back from the injury, it just keeps getting better and better naturally. So seeing that in the way that and like I said something about him and the way that he played yesterday, he just had some some some you know some in him, Like he was ready to play

and fight and give it his all. So his energy was at another level that I don't think we've seen. I can't remember a game where he's played with that kind of not anger, but tenacity. It was Oklahoma CD. It was freaking great. So you would love to keep seeing that. But again, are we all in for this season?

I think that I don't care how they're playing. If you had a guy like Odell Beckham Junior, you're gonna need like there's gonna be a moment that he's gonna make a point for you, which is just gonna take

you to the next level. And the other part of it, too, is that yes, they're playing better week after week, but at the same time, there's still that quote unquote inconsistency aspect of it, where you're you're just don't a thousand percent trust what kind of offense you're gonna get that day or how long it's gonna take for them to kind of get things moving. And by that time when they get things rolling, is it too late? Is the opposing team just way ahead of you. So that's another

point to look at. But I think that, yeah, this year, I'm going all in. Give me whoever you can bring it here, doesn't matter you know who's number one or just have them all out there. There's a space for you and we can always use you. Bring it. Just bring it. I wish he was a cornerback. I wish he was an all cornerback. I could take that. Yeah, yeah, you could probably use that right now. But yeah, everything that these guys said about the players, absolutely right. Yeah,

one more thing about Odell. I mean, well Odell and CD. You know, I've said this a bunch of times that you know this, if you try to sign him, you're pretty much making sure that you're going to I think you're going to make a decision on what you want to do with CD as well. And the good thing for CD is that he's playing right now, like you

want to keep him on your football team. Because if he was the best five receivers in the league right and he's playing right right now, he is, and so if he wasn't, though, and you would be like, all right, well, this is kind of weird because I mean, we're gonna sign him. We also signed Gallup, and then what are we gonna do with CD? But if this means that next year in the offseason, the CD's agent says, Hello, we want a little something done as well. Let's start.

Let's start, you know, feeding us. I think he'd be like, oh, well, let's figure it out, because he's playing like a guy you want to keep on your football dam When he made that move back over the middle late in the game, caught a pass over the middle and third down and then he went backwards to go around. That was just a shifty type play that you've seen in college so many times. And that's right, that's the Oklahoma CD right there, right,

ball across the middle. All of a sudden, everybody's got angles and he's killing angles with the way he's running the ball or he's making moves. It makes you just like you overrun the play. Yeah, he was. That's the kind of dynamic player that I think everyone that evaluated him thought question getting where they drafted him where they drafted him, And he's showing flashes of that sense he'd been with the Cowboys. Over these last several games, you're

starting to see it more consistently every week. He's now giving you these plays in these moments where you really need somebody and he's playing you know, like like Amber said, he's playing with some with some grit, you know, like they ran the ball with him a couple of times. Be careful with that, you know what I mean, because he's not Jim Brown. I mean, like he can't just keep oh I'm gonna lower my showl and everybody, because

he's gonna lose some of those. But he is running the ball well, and he's finishing runs, which you don't really talk about a number one receiver about finishing the play, finishing the runs. Well, some of Zeke's is like kind of rubbing off of him. That's what I saw in him, just kind of that Zeke ability that he just kind of keeps fighting for those extra yards or whatever. He

keeps going at it. So it's it's it's really impressive and very very exciting to see this happening at the time, that is happening in December, exactly when you need them to be playing this way. All right, let's talk about the offensive line. Yesterday they allowed one sack throughout the course. Right then, they were going for what four straight games without a sack, three straight games something like that without

a sack. But the good thing is you look at that, and you look at the fact that they allowed they will the primary catalyst behind that two hundred and twenty yards on the ground. All in all accounts, it was a really good day for the offensive line. That being said, we also saw a lot of moving around, Nick, you mentioned it, Tyler Smith moving to guards, some Conor mcgrev, Conor McGovern staying in at guard, while Jason Peters was

a tackle. What did you guys take from all that you saw yesterday with regards to the guard, the left guard, left tackle and what they were doing with it kind of feel like that when you watched them play, and you know it's It's funny because Stephen Jones has always been one of those guys about continuity. You know, you always talk about well, same five guys. You know we've had continuity, continuity, continewy. I asked him a question one

oh five three the fan. I'm like, we're in a new era here, boss, No continuity, it's all just and he goes, yeah, it's kind of weird. You know when you look at how you know you got guys, you want to play them, you want to keep them ready, you want to do all those things, and you know they really are. They're preparing themselves for when Tyron Smith comes back. Tyron Smith is we've talked about this, We've been on this from day one about him and when

he's going to come back. You're going to see Tyron Smith practice this week and can you get him ready? I don't think it's this weekend, but the Jacksonville game sure looks like a possibility where you'll see you know now. I mean personally, I think you might see a rotation at left guard. I don't think I would take McGovern necessarily off the field on some stuff. If you want to take Tyler Smith and McGovern and kind of work

them together. But then like, it's good to kind of keep Peter's fresh and get him some work because if something does happen, you don't want him to have to completely come in in week seventeen in a game and be cold. By getting him work, at least you're keeping his conditioning up and being ready if something does happen. But I think they're absolutely doing this thing the right way when it comes to all these guys playing. I think Peters did a nice job in the game yesterday.

I told you what I thought about Beaddish, you know, and you know he I thought he had one of his best games. And that's that's difficult. I felt like one of the strengths of the Colts defensive line was inside at those tackles, and there were several times where he was one on one and was able to finish up pretty well. Yeah. I mean, and and you know,

Terrence Steele not not playing. I'm practicing a lot during the week, had some personal issues he was dealing with, and he came back and he played and you know, all in all, two hundred and something rushing yards to twenty. Everyone's you know, for for that kind of shuffling around and still having that kind of success even at the end of the game. Malie Davis, you know, I mean like they're just they did what they wanted to do and that that's just a dominant effort and it's it

was fun to watch. I mean and say what you want, Colts aren't or a good team whatever, but um, you shouldn't be getting, you know, beat down like that. And I think the Cowboys are a hungry team because they are they're still chasing. Yeah, they see what they made the Colts. They made the Colts quit yesterday, they did. They made the Colts quit, and that was the whole idea to you know, to try and do that, you know, because they they don't score a lot of points, they

don't finish games particularly well. So yeah, that thirty yard run you started seeing, so a little bit of quit out there on the Colts. Yeah, to me, they were they were kind of like hyenas, Like what you see of hyenas when they were taking packs and as soon as they they sensed that they got the prey where they want them, Oh, they all attack and there's no

pulling them back. And that was what that fourth quarter felt like to me yesterday, Like they just there was there was blood there and they were like, Oh, we're going to finish them, We're gonna eat. Well. There's sometimes this team doesn't like prosperity. There's sometimes they don't like it. Make it easy. They made it easy yesterday. They really really did. Yeah, and the only thing that didn't happen was a sack by Mark Michael Parsons. I mean that's

that's about it, you know, Yeah, Mia Michael. In the locker room after the game, it was interesting because you know he was I think he's happy for the for the win, don't get me wrong. Well you could you could tell he's just a little different in the locker room when there's no sacks versus when there's two sacks, because that's really the only two options for him. It's either going to be zero, it's going to be more than than two. Yeah, you mean to be the wet

blanket guy. The only thing that I was really disappoint you had a blocked extra point, you know, and that was over between the center and then McGovern if you've talked about offensive line, yeah, that was that. You don't want to go back and watch that play because Fossil said after the game I talked to him walking out and he said that he went to the officials because they did something that the Occults did something that was pretty much illegal. They overloaded that one side is what

they did. But they if he's sandy to hit the center, I don't know, because the center, the center Overton got turned. He got I mean, he opened up bad and then that had just allowed you know, the rush to get through. But they were they were bad at center, and they were bad at the right guard and Mahars extra points are hugging that right up right. I don't know if you noticed that, but getting well, that's what they're doing.

That's what they're doing. They're they're rushing. They're rushing off that side because people are feeling like the ball is since they're on that hash, that he's going to start it right. So they're overloading that the Cowboys right side to rush. Yeah, it is. If you want to be a nitpicky about a special teams play the boy that one was. That one was kind of a bad one. I do want to take our final break and come back. Let's talk some defense. Some interesting moments from the defense,

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three point five average. Question is is a run defense fixed? Finally? Um? I think so. I mean, I think that they've they've figured out that, you know, it's fixed against teams that don't have running quarterbacks. But I think that's true when you quarterback though, there's more dynamics that and so yeah, if you if you got the statues back there, yeah,

I think I think that's fine. But let's let's see what happens when you get a quarterback that can, that can move a little bit more when you look at the rest of their schedule. You got Philly obviously, that is that is there another team that you'd be concerned about from from that standpoint? I mean Tennessee's guy runs a little bit. He does yesterday. He was a wide receiver in college. Yeah, Hill and and and I would imagine. I mean, I don't think he's gonna run any sprinting contest,

but I think Trevor Lawrence can probably. Yeah, he's tall, lanking, he can you know, it can move around. Yeah, you know, he's gonna just take off if you need to. So, uh, nothing like what the Eagles do, you know, as far as that type of thing. But you know, when you when you talk about the Eagles, though they've got two really good receivers, Diggs can't cover both of them. So that's that's gonna be a problem there. Yep, we're getting to that at all. We'll say that for another day more.

We're not gonna talk about Oh no, no no, yes, we're gonna talk about that, okay, but not the other oh the Eagles. Yeah. Um, I think it's too soon to say it's fixed. I think the sample size is still pretty small, and looking at the opposing teams that we played like Nicks, I mean, that's a great point. It all depends what the quarterback does. So right now I think they've taken step to get steps to get better, but it's still the sample size is not enough for

me to say it's completely fixed. We'll have to see kind of in two weeks what that looks like. But I like where it's going. I like where it's trending, and I like what they're doing. And even if it's a small adjustment, it's still taking a step forward. They're better with Hankins and they're playing as a defensive tackle, that's for sure. Teams have a hard time. The nineteen yard run they gave up was kind of a bad play.

They had it for a gain of maybe three or four and it turned into nineteen yards because nobody felt they needed to use their arms to tackle on that Pa. It's almost like they lost him there. Well, it's funny because they had a chance to tackle. It would have been like a three or four yard game, which they've been doing a really good job. But all of a sudden,

you know, he goes in there. He's bouncing off guys and then he's out the back door and it's a nineteen yard game, and you know, you would have been in a situation a lot better off. I think they are. I think they're getting more bodies to the ball. I think they're kind of figuring out about you know, they have to get off blocks. They're not getting hooked. I think teams are still going to try perimeter runs on

you though. I think that you know, there's a couple of times there the ball you know, got to the edge. But you know, like I say, Wilson did a really good job having him in the game. I just really like what Hankins has been able to do, especially inside. I mean, he is not he's just not a guy that's sitting there holding on blocks. He's being really active.

He's he's forcing blockers to have to take him. And then when the backs are running they see indecision the it's like, I'm not sure where the hole is here, So yeah, you know that's somebody make a safe and then you know, I'm sorry, p k's are going on here. It's the only place you just make a safe. Yeah, the only part of the soccer I like, like to me like this is this is fun, like this is fun soccer. When you get to the the well, you know what's not fun? Uh, what's happening now that we're

talking about the run defense? I started thinking, Okay, what's happening a cornerback and how that's gonna affect possibly how they've are managing like the run defense. I feel like, now you're gonna need help with like linebackers, because I do think there was a moment in this game. Obviously it was I think was the first touchdown Indianapolis had. On that drive, you saw Anthony Brown give up a forty five yard play pass downfield. And this is not

the first time we've seen that. And as the season has gone on, it seems like teams more and more frequently are starting to say, Hey, that guy over there at number three, he's a target down field, like we should be going after him. And these aren't even against necessarily the best receivers on the opposing teams. They're just saying, put one of your guys out there and let him go downfield and win one on one, and they're winning.

So when you start talking about Anthony Brown now, and for those that haven't heard, there's there's a speculation that he's lost for the season. Jerry kind of mentioned it that it looks like it might be an achilles, he'd be done for the season. How much are you really missing or how much of a delta is there between Anthony Brown and, let's say in the for the sake of argument, Kelvin Joseph. Me personally, I kind of feel like, okay,

if you want to talk about running game. The one thing I know about Kelvin Joseph official forward, because we've seen him tackle on special teams. You know, we'll see he has that aggressive mentality. We've seen Bland come up and tackle, you know, with ball in the flat, he comes charging up. I actually feel like you're going to be better on the outside playing the run defense when you got guys that are willing to set the edge, you know, more of a willingness to step up and

make those plays. Has been a problem on Anthony Brown's Yeah, you know, it's been both. It's been both. I mean and Brown is it's Brown is just a smaller guy and sometimes he just gets bounced. I mean, he's standing there and he gets bounced, and you know that with when you got guys like Joseph and Bland. They do a good job of seeing it and is flying forward and I think that's where I think that's where you're going to benefit. Now, I'll say this about Joseph in coverage.

Joseph has not played a lot of football, and I mean that at LSU he didn't play very much. He was like one season he didn't play very much at Kentucky and the next thing you know, he's now playing for the Dallas Cowboys. I kind of feel like there's a reason why that Dan Quinn and those and Will McClay went to Lexington, Kentucky to work on this guy and then they draft him. I think the ability is

absolutely there. The special team's play was bad yesterday. You know, you gotta have better awareness, but you look at his situation. I do think he can cover. I think he's fast enough. I don't think you're gonna run by him, and I think he's gonna compete. You know, those are all give me if you tell me this guy is going to get more reps and more opportunity and more time to practice at his craft. I think there's a legitimate player there for you. I really do, And this might be

one of those things. I think something's wrong with Anthony Brown, I really do. I don't know if it was confidence. I don't know if he was injured. You know, the play he got hurt on was really unfortunate. It was the screenplay that they ran for a big yard. He got pulled. I mean the blocker grabs him. I mean Pierce pulls his jersey and he gets yank back, and

that's where his achilles ruptures. You know, he's trying to step and then he stepped and then it's it kind of yanks and you know, it's like it's one of those injuries, like if you yank a guy from behind, it blows out his hamstring, just sudden stops. I think that's what happened in this game. But I I'm confident that they will figure out between Bland and then and Joseph. With the number of reps that these guys will get in practice, I think you'll see two young guys that

will fight and compete and be better for it. I just he scares you because he's a reckless player, and he's reckless on how he plays um. And I'm just talking about it on the field. Obviously, off the field, there's been his thing. Um, but that's but you know, beyond that reckless of course, but on the field, he's a penalty waiting to happen and he and it just doesn't seem like structure is always that important as far

as like, well, run down here. I mean he's just gonna hit someone or do you know, run forty five yards or whatever. And and you know that scary that scares you to death when he's covering somebody. And and you know, I think if he gets in a crew where they throw a lot of pis, I think that you know, I mean, he gives up a touchdown, they throw it, you know, and and he's he's going to give up some plays, probably more so than than Brown. But like y'all said, Brown has been making some as well.

Uh maybe, like Brian said, he's got to continue to play against you need to play. But I'm definitely gonna look at my options. I'm looking at my options on outside of this football team to try to get a little bit more stability at that position. You were a person, I think, Craig, if I'm wrong, that earlier, going back to training camp, you kind of wanted to see Mkuamu down at corner a little bit more. Is that something you still would hope to see. I don't think they'll

do that. I don't think they'll do that. And you know, Nashan Wright is a player that mean drafts a third round. I mean, I don't know, you know what, I still think he is a a safety type player. I don't think he's a corner so much, but they might we might get to see that a little bit. I don't know what the Sheffield he's been on the practice squad, right, Kendall Sheffield. I mean, you just gotta look at look at options. I mean, but they're committed to Kelvin Joseph.

They're committed because based off this offseason, if you weren't committed, you would let him go. You would let him go. So they're committed, and this is the opportunity that I'm just hoping that they're Like you said, I'm hoping that the reps. I'm hoping that the reps give him confidence that you're right, because I saw it was funny you said that, because I saw your tweet last night. Is is there anybody that gets more penalties for the number of plays he plays in the game than this guy?

And that's something that But I also feel like though that he's the one guy that he's got more ability and that he really do I love Bland, I really do. I think Bland. I think somebody out in out in California missed that guy playing Pack twelve football. But you watch at what he's been able to do, how confident he plays, what three interceptions already this year for him, great for him to do that, But I think they'll figure it out between Bland and then also with Joseph,

I really really do you know? I want to buy while your eyes are seeing because I trust your expertise and your years of experience and what you watch on film. But right now this is a compliment sandwich I found. Man Well, I mean, I'm sorry, I don't want it right now. Do you know this guy has made me more angry than happy, Like there's there's only ones that I was like, oh that was pretty nice, But other than that, I'm just upset every time. And I think

that at this point of the year. And another thing like that play where Hooker got the interception he starts running. I put up a video on there, but if you watch the replay, I mean, Joseph kind of goes as if he's about to tackle the guy, like tackle his own teammate and stop him and Hooker he was. He kept going, you know, he kept running us, not very aware exactly. That's the problem awareness, Like dude, what are

you doing? But at the same time, that's that's the point that we're in the month of December, heading into mid December. I don't think now is enough time for him to take the next step to get to the next level. I think maybe next year you see what he does at training camp, if there's really an extensive amount of things that he's doing out there that gives you hope or whatever keep him if not by because right now I'm just like, but the point is, like

who do you have? You know, well, that's why that's why I kind of say that you give Bland and Joseph both the opportunity to play, and you know you're going to kind of have rather see more of Bland. Oh no, I mean they might, they might very well see that too, But there there is somebody upstairs that put his you know what on the line. Yeah, for Kelvin Joseph to be here and to nixt point, there's a reason why they didn't send him into the streets

when all that went down in the streets. You know, so somebody, somebody is like thinking we might need this guy. Well to your point, I can't no, I can't disagree with your point. It just comes with experience. It's it's the experience that's the year. That's what I think that he has not played a lot of football. They took a gamble on a guy that has not played a lot of football. I think you're gonna get into a situation where, you know, a whole week of of reps

and and prep going into a game. I could see where you know, you're sitting in the press box going, all right, they're really picking on Joseph here today. You know they're going at him, going at him. How does he respond to that? That's going to be the key. But you know that he gets a penalty. Because cornerback confidence is a huge thing and it can snowball on you. We've seen it with really good players like Terrence Newman.

I remember a game at his last few games with the Cowboys, his confidence just wasn't there, and he still played six more years in the league um and played a fifteen year career but at that moment right then, he just didn't have it anymore. And so confidence can be a tricky thing for corners. I hopefully he can you not get in one of those ruts. Well and real quick, I know we're about to leave, but you're talking about confidence. Let me to think. We know these

defensive players. They get mad and they started like yelling at you and we saw it out forgot what game was that in Green Bay? Green Bay where they I'm not saying they were turning on each other, but it kind of seemed that way. And then they got into like, well, we just like to have people take accountability for what the role is, take to your role and do your job. It does concern me in a scenario where now you got a guy like Kelvin Joseph, a young guy who's

trying to learn whatever but making these mistakes. How are his teammates reacting to that? Then does that kind of take a toll on him as a player, his confidence? And then it just goes downhill from that because that's a big thing with this defense. They want you to do your job, do what you're supposed to do, and if you're not, I mean I'm not gonna say, turn on you. But it's just it creates a little bit

of conflict. I think this is gonna be big on Dan Quinn and it's gonna be big on Al Harris and those guys and Joe wit As how they get this kid ready every week. They've got to pump him up. They've got to pump him up. They've got to pump him up to the team, you know. I mean they got to point out when when Joseph makes a good play or even bland, when they make good plays in practice, the right reads, hey, good job, good job. You know

that kind of thing, because that's gonna be important. There's a lot of people like you an bar and a lot of people are out there that just gonna like, man, I don't trust this guy. I don't This guy hasn't shown me anything for my trust to be there. But we're to the point now where you're like, you got to get somebody ready, Like in San Francisco right now, they got to get you know, they're got to get

a quarterback or readie out there. You know, they're they're in, they're in the I mean, nobody's feeling sorry for you right now that you just lost your starting corner that you got to figure out with the guys. You got how to make this work. And I think this is gonna be on Quinn and Wit and then Al Harris and them to get these catch or readie all right, appreciate you guys, Yellnis, We'll be back tomorrow. Bron's gonna

have a game for us on Susie tomorrow. Go little that will just get some big picture looks around the NFC till then for Nicky mcbrian brought us Ambergarcia. I'm Derek Higelts and this has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.