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It is our first show here of the twenty twenty five year. Still got one game to finish out the twenty twenty four season that comes up this Sunday. Cowboys will face the Commanders here at at and T Stadium at noon. But today we'll get you guys a little more prepared for that game. Got a few topics we're gonna hit today. We've got to talk about Zeke and what seemed to me to be somewhat of a surprise move that the Cowboys made, But we'll talk about that.

Brian have a breakdown.

I'm sure Nick's got some thoughts on this team and their offense. Tomorrow we'll talk a little bit more about the defense as we get you guys ready.

For the game. So let's start with Zeke.

We find out I think it was yesterday, all these days of all run together, was yesterday, two days ago, find out the.

Cowboys were releasing him.

And my question, which I think most people know, but I think it's worth the conversation.

Why now?

Yeah, for Ezekiel Elliott, he sees an opportunity to potentially join a playoff team and he went to the organization saying, hey, can I be released so I can be afforded that opportunity in case it in case it arises, and uh, the organization chose to let that happen, not that he had been playing much in the last few weeks anyway, So they released seek one on Tuesday. He cleared waivers yesterday, and now he's free to sign with any team going

Needing a running back in the playoffs.

I can't really think of any I mean, you could look at the Chargers and Detroit was my one thought. If David Montgomery is not as healthy as maybe they anticipate going into the playoffs, and that's maybe their short yardage guy that they could bring in and you know, mix in. But you know, how confident would another team be based on, you know, the opportunities that he had this year, the reports about him missing meetings and getting left in uh left in Dallas during the Atlanta game.

I wonder how much that would factor.

In if if he had an opportunity that became serious. But nevertheless, the return for Ezekiel Elliott overall, I think it's it's fair to say that it was it was a failure. It was it didn't quite work out in the end. In the beginning, it looked great, you know, we'd come out of that Cleveland game. He had forty nine total yards in that game he had the hurdle

Now, this is the first NFL version of the transfer portal we've heard of.

Well, Dalwin Cook last year, are you talking about like getting released right before the playoffs?

Yeah?

Yeah, Dalwin Cook last year?

Or like, you know, there's a side of me that like, I think that maybe we got some back channeling going on here. Do you think somebody came in with the Rocky Arsenal and.

That you know, hey, if he was available, now the guy's gone.

I could say this right, Yeah, okay, so maybe some back channeling, like some say, hey, if you could get them released, you maybe might take a look at him, that kind of thing, clear waivers, that kind of thing. I think there's a couple of things that are going on here too. I think that maybe and this is this is this is the conspiracy theories of me right now,

That's still as a game check you're missing, Yeah, exactly.

So there's you know, maybe the Cowboys can find out there was some tampering going on here. Again, I'm not it's Brian Broadest one O five three the fan, not the Dallas Cowboys, not it's my opinion. Sorry, okay, But yeah, so that you know, maybe some back channeling going on, we'll see. But maybe also too that they got to the point where they were going to play they wanted to see Deuce Fawn play, or they wanted to see somebody else play, and Zeke Leveltt wasn't going to be

You know one thing that that I just jumps out to me is that I think this year we've seen a resurgence of running backs around the NFL who were guys that you.

Take care of themself in the set.

But yeah, in the second third contracts and they are producing really well for teams this year. Do you think that Zeke here, do you think that his lack of production here was about other things, whether it was the offensive line, whether it was the opportune Do you think there were other things that were factored in or do you think it's just he just doesn't have what he once had.

There were go ahead, no, no really played.

There were there were multiple factors that I think played into Zeke not being nearly as effective as even anyone anticipated coming into the year. But I think it starts with him off the field. It starts with what happened off the field, him missing meetings, him losing support in the locker room. I mean it starts there, and then that stuff fizzles into when he actually does show up to the meetings, when he actually does get onto the field.

He didn't look comfortable the entire game.

I mean, you had Dalvin Cook getting worked in with carries as well, But when Zeke had an opportunity, it didn't work out because, in my opinion of what had already been established off the field.

No, I think you're absolutely right about that. I mean the guys you're talking about. They they you know, we got to you know, Derrick Henry. They they give him the award after a game the other day, like the red Velvet cake, and he's like not interested. Thanks. There's a guy that's kind of conscious of what he puts in his body, you know what. You know, probably asleep, probably spends a lot of money to take care of himself so he can play at a very very high level.

Was that a church in New York with Bill Parcells?

No, No, that was a different trip. But but no, but I'm serious. There's you know, guys have fun in life. He had a lot of fun, you know, and I think that finally caught up to him in a lot of ways. And and so to me, uh, you know, I I'm I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised that it didn't work out. I would be really interested if we could do this, If Mike McCarthy, if you could get Mike McCarthy on the on the side and asked Mike McCarthy this question, did you really want Ezekiel Elliott here?

I think right now, in my opinion, it would be very, very difficult to really evaluate Zeke's position at the moment and whether or not he would have been good and productive for these offense, even though he did get some chances at the beginning of the season, we saw what the running game was there. It didn't matter who was touching the ball and who was running. It just wasn't working with what the offensive line was doing for you.

Zeke, like the Zeke we used to know that was here.

And we saw even though he had that moment, his crazy little moments here and there at the beginning of his career, bring it up really quick. And he was a leader in there, in the locker room. He always stood in front of the media and always talked, and he took care of business. He was practicing and did what he needed to do. So whatever the reason may be.

And I saw it a training camp.

When he got there, he was putting in the work and he was like focused and kind of a tunnel vision. But it didn't pan out for him here. So I hope that he can find that happiness again, because you see it in a player. You see when someone has success and then all of a sudden they're not having that kind of same success or attention, And not that he's looking for the attention like that like in front of us or anything like that, or anything like that. I don't know how to describe it, but you see

Fourth chance?

I don't know.

I still wish him good luck and well because we know he deep down is a good guy.

Let me ask you this, This is a bigger picture question based on what he's done here, because I think there was a time I think people sat quickly forget how good he was in twenty sixteen, and then those subsequent years, he was really really bad.

Yeah, that all being said, do you think Zeke Kelly is a Ring of Honor caliber player?

I had this conversation with someone a couple of days ago. The thing is if you if you get him in, it opens up a really much larger situation or conversation about a lot of other players around him, because if you put in Zeke, then you're putting in Dak, who you know may or may not be worthy of that by the end. And if you're putting in Dak, you're putting in Romo, and you're putting in Romo, you're putting in does put if you put in it's just it's kind of a domino effect from there.

But if we're talking about Zeke in a vacuum, I don't know. That's tough, it's hard.

I think he's one of those guys that you look at his reduction and when he was good man, he was really really, really good, but the longevity just wasn't there.

Dorset is in right, Yeah he is. Yeah, yeah, Well.

How many years do you need? How many?

I don't know, I don't know. I don't know that there is a certain number. Because Charles Haley didn't. Yeah, he didn't have a large body of work here. Now you look at his overall career between here in San Francisco, he obviously had a pretty decently long career, but he didn't have a long time here in Dallas.

But then you look at somebody like Dion.

Dion I think had more years here than Charles Haley did I think in the ring is he No, he's not. I want to say, Dion's like five years here, six years here, Brian, you remember.

Oh look, but I don't know what I had for breakfast.

The whole point I'm making. The whole point I'm making.

I think he is a really, really tough one because at the height he was as good as anybody that's done it here absent obviously EMMTT Smith and probably Dorset. Uh, but you know, other than that, Like, I just think he had a really great couple three four years and then it just kind of went away, And I just wanted that's enough to get him in.

And we're talking an offensive rookie of the Year knocking on the door of MVP a couple of seasons, two time rushing leader. That's tough to do. I don't know that'll be an interesting conversation one day. If it were me, i'd put him in.

Yeah, that's just me.

I don't think he's Hall of Fame, but I think ring Van and he has a case.

There's the fifteen on there too, like like Kobe gets the twenty four in the eight Yeah.

Eh. The question, the question that I would ask is, I don't know if he was as good as Calvin Hill was. And I'm old enough to watch Calvin Hill.

I never watched Calvin Hill, but yet knew of him, but I didn't.

Watch Calvin Hill was a big part of some championship teams here, and so you know, you think about of course you're gonna think about Emmitt Smith, you're gonna think about Tony dor set. I personally me, I don't think DeMarco Murray gets nearly enough credit for being a good back here, you know. And so you know, am I saying that Ziekh's better as you look at DeMarco Murray? Sure?

Yep, that's fair. And I do think they'll obviously that.

The interesting part is there's only one person, Jerry, that decides the Ring of honor.

One person, Jerry, Yeah, right, yeah, And.

We know he's very fond of him as a person, and uh, and I don't know if that colors the decision or not. I have no idea when Jerry knows that, but but we know he's very fond of of of a Zeke.

So we'll see that.

I mean, we saw Jerry's statement that came out. But do you think, given what has happened behind the scenes, behind the curtains in this couple of months that Zeke has been here, do you think the relationship has changed or been damaged a little.

Bit or But I know of Jerry, I doubt that.

Not with the front office. Maybe with the coaches.

You can't hear any worse than some of those guys that are in the Ring of Honor. And that's that's not to discredit anybody that is in the ring. I'm just there's there's been off the field issues with a couple of those guys as well, and I don't think a couple of them weren't about as zekes.

My thing is like, you just look at Jerry and you look at his players. I think Jerry's very, very, very loyal and those players that are his guys, they're going to forever be his guys. I don't care what happens because you look at somebody like dez Dez has a lot of problems with a lot of people that came through this building while he was here. You asked you open the question about what he thinks about Jerry Jones, and it is like he just loves the man, and it's vice versas Jerry just loves him.

And it was some of those same.

Things that we've kind of been hearing about, you know, the mis meetings all that. That was some of the same stuff that was happening with Daz back in the day. But the relationship is there between he and Jerry. It might not be there with anybody else in this building, but within him and Jerry, that relationship is there. So I just I feel like Jerry just he keeps the relationship with his guys and it just, for whatever reason,

I just you know, if you I think if I got this right, if you go in the stadium, you have the pre nineteen eighty ninees on one side of the stadium and the post nineteen eighty nine's on the other side of the state. So yeah, there's a there's a distinguishing line there that you know, that that you can say, okay, well and then okay, you got guys that, like you say, the Romos, the Does Bryants, the Jason Witten's.

Yeah there loves doing that. He loves every time we look at.

Who's fright Tripuka here? Who's what did he do? So yeah, you start watchdog and the other team spree of honor and then it gets you to appreciate the ring of honor you see ten times a year, you know when you go into that stadium.

All right, I know we gotta go to break who are some guys that are due though Witten is it just Witting is is that the only home run Foreshore will be up there one.

Day of the time that I've been here. Obviously, DeMarcus is already in. I think Witten definitely gets in. Then it becomes a situation of, like you said, if you start letting in the Romo Romos, the des like those are those were really good players, and I think they were fan favorites, But I don't know if you put them in the same category of the Triplets or of you know, those guys that were great and they won championship. Yeah,

Tyren Smith is probably a slam dunk. We're not talking about the offensive line.

But I think those two guys, Yeah.

But those two guys added to wit and I think those are the three players to me that are I feel fairly certain they're going to end up in the Ring of Honor.

You answer your own question, what very your initial question about Zeke? You just made the perfect.

Argument right there without.

Noting no, I think, but yeah, but Nick made the point like if you put him in the got to put it in a lot of other guys. And I just I think longevity. Longevity matters, to be honest with you. I think it's why Emmitt Smith is where he is from the standpoint of just how he's recognized him obviously being the leader in rushing yards in a career is because of his longevity. Like he wasn't he wasn't killing the league his last several years in the league.

He just kept doing it, kept doing it.

Over and over, and there's something to be said for that in the sport where injuries are a part of it. To be able to play that long, especially at a position like that where you're taking hits every play, like, I really think there's some value to that, and so I think that's probably why he doesn't end up.

But who knows.

It's Jerry's call, So only Jerry knows.

It's gonna be interesting.

Yeah, it's it's funny. I was trying to think of how many Ring of Honor players are not Hall of Fame members, and I was thinking of Don Perkins is one of them. I know, I don't know if Don Meredith is another one. It's very very.

Very few, rare Hall of Fame, so yeah, I think he is.

I think that Perkins and Meredith might be the only two tex Shrims in the Hall of gil Brandts in the Hall of Fame. I mean, yeah, it's it's a very it's a it is a unique group of of you know, so now you're going to get into some situations woldn't will be a Hall of Famer well Romo will you know, will others? That's if your standard is Hall of Fame players and executives. Then your man, your list is going to be really really small from this this current group of guys at the Cowboys half.

Is you're the only one in the Hall of Fame that's not in the Ring of Honor right now.

Well the ring. I think Darren Woodson's the other one too. By the way, now I think that Darren Woodson is not in the Hall of Fame.

But correct, that's got to manifesting hopefully this.

So there's probably three guys that that were not that are that are in the Ring of hondor that they're not a Hall of Fame members.

All right, we're gonna take our first break. We will come back.

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We are in the second segment of the Break with life from that s WVC Mortgage Studios at the Star and the segment's brought to you by blockchain dot Com. All right, let's talk about the Washington offense right now. They are fifth in scoring, they are fourth in total offense. They're sixteenth in passing offense, but they are third in rushing offense.

Thank you, quarterback.

I'm right.

I'm going to take you back to the Cowboys first game with them, the first matchup this year, when they faced them in Washington. How well do you think the Dallas defense matched up against that Washington team in that first matchup?

I felt like it was pretty good. I went back and watched the game just to make sure, and what they did was I like what Mike did with by putting Micah Parsons as a three technique and working against Nick Alagretti and Tyler Bottish and guys like that. So he kind of figured out that those those guys were going to struggle a little bit and they were able to get some pressure that way. Golston did a really nice job off the edge, you know, they were they

I can almost guarantee.

Leading up into that first matchup with Washington, Michael Parsons went to Mike Zimmer and he was like, Hey, I got something, line me up over Tyler Battish.

I know I can doe this guy. And I don't know for sure, but I could.

I could almost bet on it that that is what happened because you saw him generate inteer You're pressure more than that game than he has in any other game this year. Two sacks in that game for him and then, like you said, sending pressure from the linebacking court, from the secondary, uh it, it can.

Disrupt a rookie quarterback.

And you talk up with the double mug look as well, we could look at jayde Daniels, we look at c J. Stroud, we could look at Drew Locke. All these young quarterbacks of this defense has gone up against this year. Throwing that double mug disguise on them has given it has given them issues and so I think you can expect a little bit more of the same here.

Yeah, they had some promise in the Atlanta games too, and some of the others that I watched that doubt was Blitz pick up with Brian Robinson. He was getting knocked around a little bit. Brian Robinson's a good player. Yeah, yeah, if you remember, if you yeah, if you remember, if you remember, in the in the game, first carry of the game against the Cowboys, he got twisted up. Mozzi got in the backfield and he got twisted up and it hurt his ankle and he really won. The same player.

When you talk about the rushing game, Jayden Daniels rush for seventy four yards on seven carries against the Cowboys. No other player game more than twenty two rushing yards that game. Between Eckler and Robinson, how do you think they can better contain Daniels based on what they did in that first game?

Or is this one?

Is this a situation where you like, as long as you stop those other guys, you can be okay with him having some yards as he did in this game where.

The Cowboys ended up with the win, said Eckler.

No, I'm saying, how do you Daniel's if I'm.

No, no, no.

With with Daniel's eye, I think it's just sealing the edge. I think it's containing the edge, keeping him in the pocket as much as possible, And I think they did a good job of that in that first the first matchup, he did get away for a couple of runs, especially there in the fourth quarter where things got crazy, he got away for one. I think of that touchdown drive that they had that led to the turp in return. I look at that and I see a couple of

But yeah, I would have to say.

Just continue to contain him, don't let him go outside of the pocket, because that's when he can make things really dangerous.

He did that against Philly.

Philly didn't do a good job of keeping him contained, and you saw him use his athleticism not only in scampering away but also throwing on the run.

He's he's a Heisman winner for a reason.

Go Tigers question their position in the playoffs?

Do they have it? Like? Does this game change anything?

They need to win because if they win, there the sixth seed, which means they go play the Rams. If they lose in green Bay wins, they can fall to seven and then that way then green Bay would the green Bay would be the sixth seeds.

So they're playing in but they.

Have, Yeah, the position.

They're either going to play the Rams or the Eagles. That's why if you listen to dan Quinn talk, he's he's adamant about trying to play this game and win because he wants to stay in the sixth seed is what he wants to do. He would rather he would rather deal with the Rams in indoor climate control conditions that he would have to make a trip to Philadelphia again.

And that's like they're playing.

Yeah, yeah, so that's that's where that's where this is at right now. So they're gonna play. They're gonna play to try. Now there comes to a level where all of a sudden how much you're willing to play to win? You know what if you get behind and all of a sudden, then you start losing, you start to lose players then and then that quickly that playing the win bit turns into no, we're not playing anymore. But he's come out and set. He's trying to make sure that

Help the Eagles team because they're going to be resting this week.

So yeah, and they're just playing well right now. That's the herd they are.

They are one of those teams that's going to be a factor, I think in the playoffs. So yeah, if you want to if you can avoid playing them the first round, you probably want to avoid playing them that early. What do you guys expect as far as how you how you uh? Or who will be playing opposite Bland? And knowing what you're talking about with McLaren, is this a situation where.

He plays a lot? He plays?

Would you think about having Bland travel with McLaren just because he's their best receiver by far?

Sure?

And Bland is your best corner by far.

He did last week with Brown, Yeah, they finally traveled, but I think it came to a situation where they had seven corners on.

The keys can play though too for them. Yeah, you know, true, he's he's he had a good game, and Brown they've got some receivers and so yeah, I mean to me, it's you're you're, you're you're in a bad spot. You're

And I'm hoping keim On Hall is ready to go. I want to see him, but I'm hoping he's ready to go for this one.

Yeah, I would love to just see him out there. I just want to see what he can do. I mean, I think he has some moments during training camp in the preseason. Be nice just to see what he can do.

Had that pick six against Vegas, I remember that one specifically. That's probably the reason he made the team. Or the practice squad.

Rather coming off a hamstring doesn't sound very promising.

Especially one.

So going into.

That, Yeah, you guys want to be excited about this guy, but I'm saying, like he not hamstre seven.

Let us have some enjoy it, right, I'll tell you what, Derek, you know you and if I can circle back on the whole thing with Daniels, you're not going to stop him running the ball. Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen it all. I've seen it his l s U years. I've seen it here. Now, you know, the the the hope is that the hope is that you you could find a way to kind of make him play backwards a little bit. We've seen that before with the quarterbacks that have that ability. But you know he's he's going

Let me ask he, Brian.

And this is because you've watched him in college and the style of runner that he he is doesn't match. But it doesn't match his body type. No, he takes a lot of.

His he doesn't know how he doesn't have to slap, he.

Doesn't how to protect his body.

Don't think he can hold up in an NFL career continuing to do what he's done to this point.

No, No, he can't because he takes some wicked ass hits and he gets up. But you wonder. You know, early in the year he was dealing with the oblique or ribs or whatever it was. You know, he's on the sidelines. I got a big pad around him, and he's waiting, waiting, and then they take off the pad and he goes and plays, and it affected the way he played. They were not as good offensively when he

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Cowboys get five players into the Pro Bowl.

There were only I think I think I heard this morning there were only four teams with more Pro Bowl selections than the Dallas Cowboys, which is pretty remarkable to say that they've had the year that they have. But Tyler Smith, Ceedee Lamb, Michael Parsons, Brandon Aubrey, and Cavante.

Turpin all make the Pro Bowl.

Any surprises for you guys, either with guys that got in or maybe even some guys that you thought should have gotten in that did.

Not give credits to where credits do. I'll start there with Cavante Turpin getting in. I think he's very well deserved. I think he's the best return specialist in the league. He'll be a first team All Pro. Looking at CD the year he had. That's great, Micah, that's great everything. Why is Jordan Lewis doing the Pro Bowl?

What is this?

What is this?

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All right, we got we got some numbers. I'm about to I'm about to go a little sick o. Can I go sick o?

For a little bit, go for it.

So four four corners made the Pro Bowl in the NFC. Of those four corners stacked up with Jordan Lewis, Jordan Lewis allowed the second least amount of receiving yards to those guys. I'll put that with the caveat that he got credited for that eighty.

Six yard touchdown in Washington. He did, and I do not.

Believe that that should be the case, but that's what Pro Football Focus gave him.

So we're going to give it to him here.

But if you want to throw that caveat, and I'm sure and there could be some caveats with some of these other guys, we'll put that there.

When it comes to miss Tackles, I don't think the third least.

I don't think Next Gen gave him that. I think they gave that one too.

There were.

Next year, right, I think they're winning.

I think Hooker got that one in next year. It should have been Hooker. It should have been Hooker. In my opinion, miss tackles.

For the story, Miss Tackles third least out of these guys we're talking Byron Murphy and Minnesota, JC Horn for Carolina, Jalen Johnson for the Bears, Devin Witherspoon for the Seahawks.

Now, if it's a situation where they can only get in one nickel corner and they put in Devin Witherspoon over Jordan Lewis, I still don't agree with that.

I don't agree with it.

We're looking at Devin Witherspoon giving up five hundred and thirty six yards through the air compared to Jordan Lewis's four hundred and five. Byron Murphy gave up seven hundred and twenty. Like, what are we talking about here? Who's watching the film? Who's making these decisions? Put Jordan Lewis in?

And to Marvin and Oversham, can I complicate your argument a little bit?

Absolutely?

Please?

Did you ever look at yards per per? I guess yards per rep.

The reason why I say the exception, Well, no more.

I'm trying to figure out how you can do it as the number of yards they gave up based on the number of targets they got. Because as a nickel corner, maybe he played less meant less reps than some of the guys that played on the outside, which may have meant that he gave up fewer yards I'm just trying to see if that.

Made a difference in the numbers that you were quoting there.

I will say, of the five that we're talking about here, he had the second, uh, the second least amount of targets. Okay, JC, excuse me. Jayalen Johnson was the only one that had less target targets. Jaylon Johnson's the best corner in the NFL.

Yeah, I'm not.

I'm not arguing Jalen Johnson here. I'm arguing Byron Murphy and Devin Witherspoon. I think Jordan Lewis is better than those two guys. I think he had a better year than those two guys. It's my opinion.

Hey, I'll tell you this, regardless whether they made the Pro Bowl or not, and maybe maybe he still gets in. You know, sometimes you'll have guys that can't go or whatever. But regardless of that, what we know is this was, in my opinion, the best year he's had it in his career, which is which is something to say at the stay this stage of his career to still be ascending. I think it's been a phenomenal year for him. So I think all the accolades are due, and they're warranted.

Start I don't think he's ever been in the Pro Bowl conversation. I think so in his career so far. So to your point, it is very impressive that we are actually having this conversation about him and the way that he's overcome everything that he's overcome and got into this point. So maybe that's not something to keep an eye on with backups and.

What do they call them replacement.

Replacements, because I know CEEDI lamb, I'm sure I would imagine he doesn't go.

But you know that's the thing.

Now, now that there's not an actual game, I wonder if more guys will be like, yeah, I'll show up to be able to do or I'll just show up to wear a ball cap and just like hang out with.

I think it's probably gonna be a lot of guys. I don't know, there will be a lot of.

Guys unless you literally have to have surgery or you got you know, some other committment you got to go to. I mean, it's a free week to go hang out with with the other guys around the league. So my guess is that there will be a lot of people that that probably show.

Up with.

Maybe replaced.

You think you just don't want care. He doesn't care. I don't want to go.

Imagine playing Talk Award, you know.

But I'm saying he might still go, is what I'm saying.

Because there is no game, he can still they do they do that?

Like I guess that's the point, Like will they replace him for.

Yeah, there was a player a couple of years ago.

I forget who, but he had just had an ankle surgery and he was on the sideline and crunches.

Have games though, Like that's what I'm saying now that there's not games and everybody does everybody.

Do something in some of the competition type stuff.

I believe so because there's even a game show this year, so you don't have to necessary start. Yeah, you don't necessarily have to actually do anything physical to be a part of all a Pro Bowl week, Right.

They should just do like a three on three basketball tournament.

That's the last thing.

JA, let's football again.

Somebody wrecked his knee at the Sander Edwards Yeah, yeah.

But justin Jefferson a running point.

Oh my gosh, it's a I think it's a good showing for the Cowboys running after all that's happened this year for them to get five guys in.

And I love it.

For Brandon Aubrey, I think it's well deserved and I think it's not even close. He's the best kicker in the NFL and if I could get him at Texas, I would try very hard to do that if he's got some I texted you that.

After the game. I said, congratulations, and think Aubrey's off next week? You can mini no.

I literally was like, does he have anyellow?

You know?

It's it's funny though, when nice when you get these kickers, and it's it comes down to it's like a forty eight yard field gold or a thirty eight yard field gold, and you're just you shouldn't be thinking about it. You should think about me celebrated and now that things are hooking and hitting off the uprights and you're like, it's thirty eight damn yards.

Are if you can't do what are we doing thirty eight yard kicked?

Then?

What? Yeah?

What are we doing?

I mean, we need to spend some nil money on kickers. That's what we're going to do. Let's let's yeah, like, hey, listen.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, I'm sorry. Backup, quarterback, dude, you're not getting a million dollars. We're going to pay our kicker.

Tell me what to send my money. I'm sending my money. I want to kick. Give me a kicker.

That'd been awful to lose that game twice yesterday for Texas. If you if either one of those kicks, I mean, you lose that game and you drove into position both times, and you this and I mean that, that would have been a hard way to lose. Oh yeah, well me for Arizona State was a hard way to lose the game too. Yeah, fourth and fifteen.

I watched the game from a sidecar social over here in the Star District supports the Star District, and whatever that field goal dooinked off the upright to end the game. You would have thought that, you know, something happened in there. You would have thought, like somebody passed out. They're like, oh my god. But the fourth and thirteen, I completely.

I was like, this is over, this is it.

I honestly, I'd gotten to a point where I was already thinking, Okay, how am I going to handle this? We're gonna lose this game, and I know I'm gonna start getting the text and the phone calls you all right, and I'm respawn or should I just ignore everybody? Should I turn off my phone and just walk away? And then obviously yeah, everything happens from that point and it's like, okay, great, we won.

But man, I know this isn't talking longhorns but sending seven on fourth and thirteen.

Thank you?

What are you?

Thank you?

Honestly, we necessarily picked up, like when they said pressure, pressure, they had gotten there and they created some problems for I get the point of what they were trying to do.

It just didn't work.

Two stupid pills and a cup of Gatorade Game, I'll tell you what, Jim han me my two stupid pills and a cup of game.

But we are moving on long ones to the semi.

Say no to drugs.

If you guys join us, we'll be back tomorrow. We'll wrap this thing up. It'll be our final show of this season.

Till then.

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