Cowboys Break: Talented Roster?

We are live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star and we got a lot of things we're gonna hit today. Jerry had an interesting conversation with our guys over at one oh five out three to fan this morning, Sean and RJ. On this show, we'll talk about some of the things that he said during that interview. We'll also hit up some of some storylines. Nick has his article they writes every week detailing the storylines of the opposing team, and this week it would be the

Buffalo Bills. And then if Dave's going to get to the Buffalo offense, we're gonna give a scouting report on what that offense looks like and how it matches up with the Cowboys defense. All heading into Thanksgiving Day game Cowboys versus Bills at AT and T Stadium. How's everybody feeling this morning? Great? But good? I feel awesome. Let's jump right in and let's get first to Jerry's interview

this morning. Uh, Jerry's been in the news, I guess for the last couple of days, pretty big coming off of what he said at the end of the New England game, and had an opportunity this morning to clarify some of that. What do you what do you say? What are the things that we're a bullet points from that interview that were that were of note. Well, I think indirectly he said I'm not firing anyone. I mean like he's frustrated. He's still frustrated, and he sees the

room for improvement. But you know, when when that happens, everyone wants to know, Okay, what's the cause and effect of Jerry's upset, Like if someone getting fired, us Jason getting fired, us, you know, especial teams coach getting fired. No, he's not doing that. He just frustrated, and I think that he he didn't back off exactly, but he just kind of tried to, you know, show that hey, we

got a game in two days. Yeah. No, I mean, he didn't back off at all, and I kind of, I guess I appreciated that because I've I've you know, I thought a lot of what he said on Sunday night was warranted, and he didn't. He didn't really back down from any of them. He's, you know, I feel

the same way I felt. Then he taught, you know, he's like, that reflects on me ultimately as the owner and general manager when you have deficiencies, And he even said he's like, you know, praising praising how good the New England coaching staff was is obviously a reflection on our own and to like try to deny that as silly.

So he talked a lot about that, and yeah, I mean he which I always, even as bad as the special teams have been, I always thought it was knee jerk to think that he's going to fire anybody the Monday after. Like when has he ever done that? They

fired Paul Alexander last year during a bye week. They've done stuff like that on occasion, But like people still have a hard time letting go of this image of Jerry Jones is like the freewheeling, you know, doing crazy trades and firing people on a whim like that hasn't been the case in forever, and people still act like

it is. So. But he did say he was like, yeah, it starts with playing well Thursday, and it kind of there was a little bit of like added to that where he was like, yeah, I want to see us play well on Thursday. Everything he said has been warranted, talking about the special teams struggles and also at the end of the game saying he's frustrated because the talent on this team should not have a six and five record. They shouldn't be playing there where they are. And I

agree with that. I think everything he said there has been value behind it, and I like agree with Dave. I like that he stuck to what he was saying today when he was on one of five through the fanom was honest about how he felt. I don't agree with that, actually, but I mean he's the GM and so therefore he's basically saying, I put I put the

food out there, so I mean you should taste good. Well, part don't you agree with I don't think this is a talented team, as everyone says I know, I've seen stupid quotes out there that this is a nine and two team coached by a two and nine staff. I mean stupid stuff like that. I don't think this is that great of it. And who says who says the fans who love the Cowboys and vote them in the Pro Bowl, says Jerry, who pays the check. I just don't think the players are as good as people say.

I'm not saying the coaching staff has been great, but I'm not saying this is an all world talented team. I think they have a lot of deficiencies when it comes to this roster. I just think it was evident Sunday. I think when you look at this roster relative to other teams, I think you would say there are a number of players at different positions that you would rank highly if you were comparing them to other players at that position around the league. And that's where I think

the at least the reception. But would you be right? I mean, I mean, I will say this there. It's not just fans are saying it. These are national people who are How about commentators about the team? How about us? How about us? We spent all training camp talking about how sickly talented this team was. I don't. I don't. Were we right? I think so? Yeah? I mean, what will we write about MALIEK. Collins? Didn't Malie Collins has like four sacks? Yeah, I think he's a pretty good player.

I mean he's not. He's not. That's what I'm saying though. How many Pro Bowlers do you need before you're a talented team? No? I just don't think this team. I think it's just an easy crutch to fall back on and say this is a talented team. They are, they're they're top loaded, but they're not on the back end. Didn't we have a we had a conversation in the hallway before the Patriots game, and that was like, new England offense, Dallas offense, how many New England starters are

you taking? Right? How? What? What was the answer? One? Right? Maybe that's irrelevant because of the coach and we all know that, like, okay, that that that's that team is different and we know that. I mean what Bill Belichick is, I'm talking about the other teams thirty what's the next best team in the day in the day and age where the salary cap so strictly limits, like how much talent you can compile on one team, like what they're

what don't they have? They have a lot of they have a lot of really really good football players, but they have some bad players too at the bottom end. I say it for twenty years, from one to fifty three, they're not as good as other teams. And they they have and that was when you play the Jets and you have all these injuries, then you have to play Brandon Knight and all that that that's not that's not a good good team. I mean they have they don't

have backups at receiver. When Mary goes down, they can't function. I don't think there is from one to fifty three a great talented team. They got some top top end players though that are really good. That's just my opinion. Let me ask you this, do you think they have sufficient talent to be to be good enough to be

able to go deep into the playoffs? Now, maybe, and that's all relative time we start talking about how talented they are, But do you think it's sufficient that, if other things we were right, that this team could be a deep playoff run type team. I don't. I don't know. It's hard to say. That good, good teams make the playoffs, and they haven't beaten a good team yet, so that's that's hard to say. But they they're close to winning these games. There are a player two here and there

from winning these games. It just they haven't yet. But I mean I think that they're they're good enough to win if all falls right. It has to be perfect, can't be raining, and it's gonna be perfect for them, and yeah, that they can be. It just doesn't sit well with me. I mean, this is essentially the same team that did what they did last year. I mean for the most part. You know, Randall Cobbs here, Robert

Quinn's here. So I mean, arguably, on paper you'd say they're better, more talented, a winning that's the same talented they are. They got some talented players. I just don't think this is this loaded roster that that sounds good to just blame it all on the coach, you know, but I think you look at the players, they should still be performing better because we've seen them perform better. I think it just kind of falls more on you're not meeting expectations in terms of what I think of.

So whose fault is? Its same coach. I mean, I'm not trying to defend the coaches. I'm just saying it's everybody. It's the coach, of course it is. Yeah, alayers have a responsibility execute, and the coaches have an have a responsibility to get them ready. And I think yesterday on the show we detail quite a few things that from a coaching standpoint, we think probably the Cowboys could have done differently than they have given them a better chance to win this game. So, yes, the coaches have to

take their part in that. But when you can see guys missing tackles that are in position, that's all about the players, and it's both it goes both, Lates. I'm not trying to change my tune and put it all

on the coaching staff right now. I mean, you know, people got mad at me earlier in the season because you know, you look at things that happened in the Saints game and the Packers game, like, how is it Jason Garrett's fault that Amari Cooper bobbles a forty yard game that turns into an interception, Like, I get that,

and a decent chunk of it. You know, if I had to if I had to put a percentage on it, I'd say it's like sixty forty coaching in my opinion, Plenty of blame to go on the players, but I just think you got to remove quarterback from the equation

because it skews everything. But like, if you're looking at the entire roster minus the quarterback, I think twenty six or twenty seven teams in the NFL would take this Cowboys over their own, which means they're pretty damn talented in my opinion, and I would probably fall somewhere close to that. Closer to that than saying that it's not a t I really believe it's a talented roster, and I think that it's it's evidenced by if you go down and listen, just say take this guy versus this guy.

More often than not, you look at just the fact they got a quarterback. Now, they got a top three running back, they got an offensive line with three guys that are all Pro caliber players. Now you can question how well they've played at any point this season, but it doesn't change the fact that that's the kind of player that they are. You just start going through that list, and I think you definitely say there's talent here. You

might be right. The lower part of the of the roster may be holding them back, And that's a great point, But I still that I still don't think that means they're not talented. I think they're talented. They just may not have enough to overcome other deficiencies. Yeah, they don't have the depth they probably need. But their starters are so strong that if everyone can be healthy and play to their top ability, then this is a team that's unstoppable.

But they just haven't for whatever reason, whether that is coaching or players with execution, they haven't been able to find the balance to get the job done. Which you can't have one without the other, right, Like, I mean, special teams was bad on Sunday, Jerry Jones himself said that's one percent reflection of coaching. I thought Goose Gosselin had a great tweet on Monday morning. Though. The Patriots

employ four Pro bowlers on their special teams. Like four guys, I mean Matthew Slater's made Pro Bowls for being a special teams beast, So you can't have one without the other. Yeah, Like Bill Belichick deserves a lot of credit for that, But they're playing really good players on special teams too. You know how you talk about any sport those players that they just say they got that it factor. They just have that that thing. They don't know how to quantify.

It is just they have that something. You never really say it when you don't have it, you know, like no one ever says, well, they just don't have the it factor. And that's what I don't think this team has. They don't have that you know what when it's now, when it's third and forty collectively or individuals don't have it both really, because the individuals make up the whole.

I mean, like who really has it there? Like this team doesn't last year that we're winning these close games this year when it's really time to make a play, like gotta have it right now, yes, clutch, no one's doing individually backs not even doing it. It's great at that's playing you need him to make this throw right here to make this play. Well, that's evidence by the fact that they've had opportunities to get those come from behind wins at the end of games this year, and

they haven't done that by large yet individually. I mean, we've seen it from Dak, we've seen it from Cooper, but I mean, Jason Garrett loves to say like, oh, that team is totally different, this is team fifty nine or whatever. Well, team fifty nine doesn't have it. I agree with that completely Team sixty. Sorry, Team sixty, My bad. Don't get nix. I know, I know, I know that he trust me. I know he said that on purpose. That is that is a I'm just letting it. This

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At and T is America's best wireless network. Best network based on GWS score, September twenty nineteen. Back to the Break Welcome back. It is a second second of The Break Life and the WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. We're gonna talk about some storylines, Nick, Okay, tell me a little bit about this Buffalo Bill team. Okay, I'm going to try not to step on Dave's Toy's gonna talk about the offense, but their storylines. I mean, obviously they're eight and three and their fans can't believe it.

This first time they've been eight in three since nineteen ninety six. Maybe their fans, well, they're just excited about what they have. It's been a while since they've gotten this far. Now that year they did go eight and the last time they went eight in three, they only finished ten and six, stumbled into the playoffs, lost in the playoffs. They're hoping for better than that. They're gonna have to probably be a wild card team because they're

not gonna beat the Patriots. Eight and three is where they are right now, and everyone's excited in Buffalo. Now why the national media is not excited is because the same knock on the Cowboys as they haven't beaten anyone. Buffalo hasn't beaten anyone either. They don't have any big wins. Give them credit for being eight and three, there's no doubt about it. Their schedule percentage I looked this up is thirty three percent of the teams that are their

opponent's winning record forty and eighty one. The only winning thirty three percent of the time. Their best win is a six and five over six and five Titans team. It's the only team they've beaten with a winning record. So they're taking advantage, like the cop we are taking advantage of a week schedule and beating them. They just haven't faced those other teams and they got They got their ass kicked at home by the Eagles. So that's that's one thing to look at. You get after them,

Josh Allen, they kind of struggled. This is a return of Cole Beasley, little alm Texas right up the road, coming back for Thanksgiving. His little compared to other football players, he's little, but he's been a really good player in this league. He's second on the team and receptions and receiving yards and touchdown catches. He's doing what Cole Beasley did. Now we can talk later about where that ranks with Randall Cobble will play have a story on that. Also,

Frank Gore, he just passed. This doesn't seem right. I'm sorry, but Frank Gore just passed Barry Sanders on third on the all time rushing a Hall of Famer. So it happens when you play for thirty years. I don't know if he is a Hall of Famer. If he's third all time, he's going to be a Hall of Famer, no doubt about it. Okay, If Frank Gore's not a Hall of Famer, then Jason Witten's not a Hall of Famer. He's got to be. I mean, if he's stirred all time, If he stirred all time, he's in the Hall. There's

no there's no doubt. I'm no bout in my mind. Like you could argue greatest running backs of all time, greatest tight ends of all times. Witten make the conversation because the NFL just had a list of top one hundred backs or top twelve backs. I mean, he's nowhere on it. I'm just saying, if you're always available and can play at a high level for a super long time, you'll put together a Hall of Fame resume. Frank Or did it. Running back, Jason Witten did it at tight end.

I mean, Rob Gronkowski obliterated most of what Witten did in like a third of the time, because if he's a freak. But I mean, I'm not knocking Witten, but it's more about longevity than eye popping production. And I think think about Gore's. Gore's He's never been the kind of running back that was just gaudy, like he had this one thing he did that was so spectacular. But the fact is his greatest skill was that he was healthy enough to play for as long as he did

and it was productive for many, many, many years. And that's gonna get him in the Hall of Fame. Well opinion. The Bill's defense is second and actually third in the league in total defense points allow. They're really good turnovers though, they are just even. They had fourteen or thirteen takeaways and thirteen turnovers, so they're not like getting the ball away. They're just they're just sound. They're just a sound team. And you put a bad offense out there and they're

gonna beat them. So they've been good. They've taken advantage of this schedule. I think that they're a quality team, but I think the jury is still out on when they face teams that are that are pretty good. Don't know what type of team you're gonna face, thirsty if this is a pretty good team or a talented team or a team that doesn't have depth or whatever. But I'm just saying, give him credit for their eight wins, but I don't think they've been tested yet. Yep, it's

a perfect segue. I mean, the Buffalo Bills are perfect example of like what can happen when you just do what you're supposed to do. And I don't want to knock him too much because you just play who's in front of you. But yeah, Nick Nick said it. Their record, their combined record of their wins is their nineteen and fifty seven. They haven't played really anybody, and the handful of like quality team the Eagles aren't even a quality team. The Eagles beat them pretty bad. They beat the Titans,

who are six and five. They won that game fourteen to seven. I actually looked that up. The only games this year where they've hit the thirty point mark were both against the Miami Dolphins. The Cowboy's offense does what's supposed to do. They've scored twenty points or fewer in six of their eleven games. Like they're winning games fourteen to seven, twenty to three against Denver. The other day they lost nineteen to sixteen to the Bills, Like it's

it's the Bills. I'm sorry the Browns got excuse me in Cleveland. That's the game I watched. I couldn't watch the Denver game because All twenty two is not up until Tuesday afternoon. Usually it's a short week. But so credit all credit to them. They handle their business. Their resumes is kind of thin, but they have an eighty three percent chance to make the playoffs as it stands right now, just from handling their business. And once you

get there, who knows what can happen. Um, there's not a ton in the skill player department that freaks me out here. Um, it just is what it is. You got Frank Gore, who is a Hall of Famer, but he's averaging three point nine yards because he's he's just a tank. Like he he does the up the middle stuff,

thunder style, the obvious running situations. Your wide receivers are John Brown, who's super fast, super not well rounded, but he is a deep threat, Cole Beasley, who's your slot guy, and then they honestly just sort of have a rotating cast. I was surprised when I looked at him. I was like, there's no way these guys run three receivers because they don't have any receivers. Like after John Brown and Cole Beasley, you're talking about Isaiah McKenzie. You're talking about Andre Roberts,

who's a special team's ace but not you know, Audrey Read. Yeah, he's pretty good, he'sa No, he's not a period, but I mean former right after John Brown, who, let's honestly, you probably only know John Brown from fantasy football yet, like he was stuck in Arizona for forever and you knew he could run, and you knew he could run. After John Brown and Cole Beasley, it's a who's who of like huh, so I'm I'm like, there's no way these guys play eleven personnel. They actually do, but they

mix and match. Sometimes it's McKenzie, sometimes it's Roberts. They use Dawson Knox as basically a big receiver. You might remember him from the draft process. He's white, Evan Ingram, But I mean it's I mean that, Oh, the similarities are really weird. Like they both went to Old Miss, they both wear eighty eight, they both have the same game. They're like athletic tight ends who can scoot and you know you're not counting on him to wam the nose.

Dawson Knox scure a touchdown? I know that was the thing in college, right it all Miss. He was this prospect all that he never scored a touchdown. That's a good in his entire college career, probably high school, but not in college. I'm holding it up. I'm pulling it up. You know he's got two. There you go, But that the fun He's on the board, kept the ball. No, check this out though. Seriously, John Brown's caught fifty eight balls, Cole Beasley's caught forty nine, and then Dawson Knox is

third with twenty two. Oh wow, that's I mean, this is keep up with the little guys and you can This is ah, this is sort of like a let's just see how we can get it done type of offense case and they predominantly do three wide. Is that the yes? I mean alet but again like it ain't. It ain't Cooper Galloper Cob where you're like, oh, they got three guys. It's like here's their one guy, here's their deep threat, here's their slot guy. And they kind

of makes that other back and he and there. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna talk about We're gonna talk about Devin Singletary. I'm I'm send in Montgomery. I have a big I have a big crush on Devin's single on Twitter. You he's loving him. He's fun man. They drafted him this past year out of Florida Atlantic. He was a Draft Show favorite. He's really fun to watch. He's he's, you know, five eight, tiny guy, but he is deceptively powerful. He is deceptively his game speed is much better than

his time speed. You're not taking him down on first contact. He's slippery. He doesn't offer you a clean hitting surface. He's averaging five point eight yards per carry. He's averaging six in something yards per catch. I don't get why they don't throw him the ball more often where they draft him? What round he fell because of his time actually seven point two yards per reception. Here we go.

He was drafted in the third round. People were talking about him as a fringe first rounder, and then he ran a four or six five, and dumb people took over instead of just watching the tape. He's kind of totally pollared, like, yes he can. I mean they which again, they don't throw him the ball enough. He's got seventeen catches on the year. I would be throwing this guy the ball all the time, assuming he can catch. Maybe

he can't. I only watched one and a half games, but man, he's he's kimaraolike in the sense that he's his balance is outstanding. He's gonna slip off the first contact. So again, it sounds like something that's given the Cowboys problems, does it not. So yeah, Frank Gore's the guy that's going to the Hall of Fame. Devin Singletary, for my money, is the second most problematic weapon for the Bills, the first being Josh Allen, and not because he's this amazing

thrower of the football. Honestly, he's fairly average. He's completing sixty percent, he's averaging two hundred yards per game, but he runs a lot, a lot. He's averaging sixty rushing yards per game. He's at three Wow, he's at three eighty seven on the year. Again, if you play fantasy football, you probably know he's got seven rushing touchdowns this year too.

Like they're not that they're they're dicey in the red zone and he's kind of their cheat code where you know, he'll do the quarterback draw, he'll do the readoption scores from five, ten, twelve yards out. Seems kind of useful, right, maybe maybe like something the Cowboys could consider doing, which I'd like something they faced a few weeks ago that

they didn't really have an answer for. I actually put some of that on deck too, because he I mean, go back and watch that third down play could have run. He could have run. He needs to be more aggressive as well. I mean, I know we're getting to that later, but I'm just saying, yes, the coaches need to do a better job because he needs to design runs. But when it's there, he also needs to know that he's

bigger than anybody number seventy eight and he run. I looked this up just for the just to cover my basis because I was like, well, Allen Allen's really athletic. That was part of his scouting report coming out of college. Maybe he's a better athlete than Dak. He ran a four seven five and the combined Dac ran a four seven nine, so it's a pretty comparable. Yeah, and in one game, I mean, you know, he runs the quarterback draw often. It works often. He's really good when he scrambles.

He extends plays, and he's got the speed to turn the corner and scramble for six, seven, ten, twelve yards. That's that terrifies me. And they do run the read option with them too, because they have two running backs that you have to account for. He does that stuff. You know. Again your point, Jeff Driskill killed these guys, and I'm terrified Josh Allen's gonna do this. That's what I was gonna say. It's it's the guys that you're

not expecting. But yet, if I remember Sam Darnold had a couple of big runs up the middle, Daniel Jones I think did that. I know Aaron Rodgers had had a few as well. So it's it's you know, if they were to face like Lamar Jackson, which they have to next year, you know, that's gonna be a completely different animal, you know, like who's gonna be the spy and all that. But it's when you just think, yeah, we got this guy. That's the guys that heard him. I will say this, and I noticed this in last

week's game against the Patriots. They spied Dak a lot. There was a lot of times when you saw Dak in the in the pocket and there was a guy and as soon as he'd take a move to the right, there was a liebacker you would immediately notice would take that move to the right with him. It makes me wonder again, if you're looking at the comparison between these two quarterbacks, and obviously they use him a lot more

in the running game than than the Cowboys used. Should the Cowboys go into this game thinking maybe we do need to dedicate somebody to keeping up with him, especially when you look at their receivers and you say there's nothing there that really scares you. Maybe you should take

another resource and have him shadow him. Here's another thing I noticed too that makes me feel good about this matchup for the Cowboys is at this stage in his career, I think Allan's still pretty limited as a passer and one thing I noticed is he's this is an exaggeration, but like he's only good in the film that I've watched, Like the receiver has to present him a target like curl routes, crossing routes, screens, anything where the receiver can

turn himself back and present himself to the quarterback. Josh Allen can do that when it comes to leading guys back shoulder balls anything where like you, it's on the quarterback to get the receiver open. More so, it's not very good. He sails throws, he overthrows people. His accuracy is an issue in my opinion, which I mean he's completing sixty percent on the season. I think a lot of that because they're scheming easy throws for him, like

time and time again, dig routes, crossing routes. Cole Beasley does a lot of stuff coming over the middle and presenting his numbers to him and then you watch him take shots down the field and it just like the balls like sailing upward. Just he just doesn't have his touch fine tuned. And I think part of that's because he's got such a cannon and I'm sure he'll take some huge shots in this game because he's got John Brown and he does have a huge arm, but his

downfield accuracy leaves a lot to be desired. And so the reason why I say I think that's good for the Cowboys is we always complain about, well they don't play the ball, they know they're not aggressive. Well, that could suit you well in a situation like this, to where if he can only throw those types of routes, as long as you rally and tackle, it's probably not going to kill you. So I think that's a silver

lining at least. Let's take our first second break. When we come back, I want to talk a little bit about this offensive line, specifically how they match up against a front like the Cowboys where they have some guys that can get after the quarterback. A bit about that one. Come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio already okay, Yes, so are we gonna Wintia cheer? Just okaying is not okay, whether it's cheerleaders or your wireless network.

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WBC Mortgage Studios. At the Star, Nick tell us something interesting. Well, there's Christmas at the Star. It kicked off last weekend and it's gonna be every Friday and Saturday until all right up until Christmas. This week it's presented by Albertsons and Tom Thumb this week. This week they're gonna have some pretty good tree lighters. One of the lights we're calling to the Hall of Fame, and Jason Witten will

be there with this family. And don't think Frank Gore will be there, but I do think Jason Whitten will be Maybe Frank Stick and maybe he's gonna hang back after the game and maybe he's gonna come and him and Witten together will like the tree. Who knows. Honestly, they might go in together. For more information at point, visit the Stark Frisco dot com. No, they're not going in together because Whitten will be first ballot and Gore will have to fight through three or forty. Oh he won't.

He's the third most leading rushing sand running back thirds leading ranks third on the all time rushing list. Yes, yes, so he's getting in first ballot. Hey, here's Jerome Bettis was first ballot, right? I think so if Jerome Bettis is first ballot, that Frank name Frank or I don't know. He doesn't need one. That's the thing on the ramp bus right, you got a bus commercial. Yeah, you just

got Frank. Frank's getting in first. He's been Frank Smith never had Frank Is Okay, Frank the tank beat Emmett Smith's rushing record, and he will be. He seems like he's gonna three four years. He needs nine one years at a thousand yards, which thousand yards in today's NFL is not hard for running back. That's good. It's hard for him has been getting thousand How may need to be getting the last fw years. He hasn't seven eight, hasn't had one in four years. He hasn't hit a

thousand since twenty sixteen. Where is he now? Like eight seven, he's at five forty right now, that's he's he's gonna get to probably seven fifty. He serves a purpose in this offense. But he's averaging three point nine yards per carry in forty nine yards per game. I mean, realistically probably needs five more seasons. Realistically he ain't. He might can he get too He might get Walter? Yeah, he might well Walters at sixteen, but two seven we were

sort of having that debate over on the break. It's like there's there's transcendent talents and sometimes they play for a flash. But I mean Barry Sanders played what like eight nine seasons? Ten Calvin Johnson, I mean, is Calvin Johnson, for my money's like probably this one in the single most talented receivers that's ever existed. But did he play long enough to deserve to be to use Gail Sayers play? Yeah, exactly. He didn't play a long time was seven eight years.

There's two types of Hall of Famers. I don't know, not the backtrack, but Jerome Bettis didn't make it his first four times the sport time. Okay, well that hurts my argument a little bit. I'm just there's two types of Hall of Famers. There's transcendent talents and there's dudes who just played at a high level for a freakishly

long time. I just I just think when you have a running back at a high profile position like running back, and you're talking about it one of the loftiest goals, which is actually being the leading rushier in NFL history, if he's number three on that list, I just have a hard time thinking that he's not getting in the Hall of Fame. And certainly I've alread I'm thinking he didn't get in early, like first maybe second ballot, but I think I think he's no brainer. He's getting in. Yeah,

all right, I agree. All right, let's get back to let's get back to our tour, our scouting. Important. Talk to us a little bit about their offensive line and how they match up against the Cowboys defensive front, particularly the past rusher of the Cowboys defensive front. This is you know what. I don't have their sex allowed, but I mean they get by their offensive line gets by and I think, I mean, josh Allen is athletic and that helps. Like he's good at scrambling, he's good at

buying time, he's he doesn't get murdered back there. I thought, Um, the Browns did Scott? I keep doing that. The Bills did a decent job against Myles Garrett. This was before Myles Scott himself suspended for the rest of the year. But he did. I mean, he ripped around that corner and a couple of times. And Josh Allen did not have fun. He took a couple helmets in the back. So and they also didn't have The Browns don't have I don't think the I don't think the caliber of

the Cowboys pass rush. Would you agree with that had they faced the team that had as many guys that can get after the quarterback as the cow The Eagles can get after teams, and they got after the I don't know what the sacks, but you know against the Jets they got ten sacks in the games of the Eagles. Yeah, and the Eagles have pass rushers for sure. Let's see the Bills Bills ran, I mean twenty four sacks allowed the middle of the pack. There I mean, and they get it done, and a lot of it is the

athleticism of their quarterback. They drafted Cody Ford out of Oklahoma. I think they're working on it, and that goes working on fixing the line. Is my point, which goes back to what I was saying about the roster at the top of the show, is like the Bills have a better record than the Cowboys. I think they would gladly take the Cowboys roster, like top to bottom, like this offensive line, these receivers, defense, Well, we'll get to the

defense tomorrow. Their defense is pretty nice, but pre stacked on defense. All things considered, I still think they would. Yeah, their offensive line. Do they trip um, probably, but they don't got to find a way to get that in. They don't get called for it on third and one. Most people don't get a called for it twice in a game. Iman called nine times this year, Yeah two of those times one game. No, I didn't see any trips. Okay,

but I didn't see any trips. Talking about the coy I sorry, oh man, I'm always makes you feel good, you know, like when it's like, well, you know, three days later, like maybe it wasn't a trip do you feel any better when the league said no, no, no, when the league said that, you know, we missed those calls, I don't really feel any better. That doesn't make any difference. It's no different than when the league came out but

three years later and said, does actually caught the ball? Like, yeah, that's worse today, Like, don't don't tell me, Like, it's just it's by guns. Let's just we'll just all agree to disagree and we'll keep moving because it's just it's not it doesn't serve any one's person. Something makes me, something makes me deeply uncomfortable talking about calls because and

it was a bad call. That's not what I'm saying, But it's just there's so many variables that go into whether you win or lose a football game, and the refs are so consistently atrocious, and unless you're absolutely serious that you're going to stop watching because it's so bad, then yeah, point yeah. I know the first tripping call might have been worse than the second as far as

how it affected the game. And I know people remember the end all that stuff, but if you remember, if you go back, the first tripping call put him back to second and twenty two, they didn't get anything. There had to punt. Of course it got blocked, so they were about to be I think, you know, second and eight, second and seven could have been a completely different series there. Maybe don't get the punt blocked. So both of those were really big. That first one where he slid into

Tyren Smith knee. Yeah, same guy, well coached Josh Allen. Josh Allen and Devin Singletary. I think will be the reasons why the Bills would win this game. On offense. Let's play well enough on offense to win. But I also, I mean, the stats say it. They've hit thirty points twice against one of the worst teams in the league. Twenty points or a fewer half the time. I just if they score twenty four points, that's a fail for

the Cowboys. Yeah, so, I mean this is a team I think you can hold them to somewhere between fourteen and twenty points. But they've also proven that they can win these games. They're three and three when they do that, so their defense haven't had a chance to look at them yet, but their defense is clearly pretty good, even though the level of competition is questionable. All right, let's get a couple of phone calls before we end the show. We got a call from Horace in Atlanta. Horse up, Hey,

what's up? Guys? Hey man, Hey good. I disagree with Nick earlier about the talent on this team, because I do think they do have talent. I think that the issue's coaching. I think that when you lose a game by seven points, so last best coaching because your team is in it. Look at last night talents the team on both sides, they just got blown out. Wasn't coaching.

They just could not play with them. You know, But when the game is close, your coaches make plays that your team can either get over the hump or fall under. And Dak is one that is not gonna call his own number. He's not gonna He's gonna follow whatever the coaches say. And you know, also, so Orris real quick. So I don't remember you calling last year telling me how great Garrett was. Was he great last year? He's been great? I have called many times. Let me tell it.

Was he great last year? He had been great last year because they were winning all those close games. So they were great last year and now he's not so good? Is that what happened? I called for Garrett to be fired at in Dak's first year. But wait, they were winning those playoff games. They were winning those. It doesn't know they were they were they had Todd, Dak was running, they were he was moving. They haven't running. I haven't seen any rollouts. I haven't seen any linebacker run lenses.

I haven't seen. I think the point the Knicks making is you just argue it was that when when you're winning close games, that's about the head coach. Last season, they won a lot of close games, and the argument Nick is making is based on your argument. That would mean Garrett had to do his job well last year. Right, The play calling in that moment to help you get get to that point would be better than it is right now, I don't understand. Say it again. Okay, so

you got a new offensive coordinator right this year? Yeah? Okay, completely different. This is this man's first year calling plays. So you had a completely different offer. You had a season offensive coordinator. Now, now I'm not saying that he's good at utilizing Dak's talent, but he is good enough to make sure your team is winning in crunch time. Now, that's two different skill sets, correct, So you're saying. What

you're saying, you're talking about the offensive coordinator. So you're saying that last year, the reason why they were winning those coach games because the offensive coordinator, and so you're pointing more to the offensive coordinator this year not doing his job. That's your argument. That's my argument is that whoever's calling the plays in the last minute to put the team in a position to win the game isn't

doing their job. And I'm not saying that that the new guy needs to be fired or anything like that, but what I'm saying is, at some point it all falls on the head coach to say, hey, I want to run here, I want to pass here, I want to roll out, or something. I've seen film where Bill Parcel said, you know what, I want to run the ball. Peyton tells him, okay, Sean says, I got you, I got you. Bill is yelling at him, I want a run, you know, And that is what he's not saying to play.

But he's telling him what he wants him to do. And I don't know if Garrett is doing that all right, thanks to the call. You know what Garrett said yesterday that he's not doing that to be honest with you. He really said that he doesn't feel like he should get into the play caller's head that much. He said that yesterday's paid if you don't want to interject in that situation too much. I don't like that. It was. I was like, you don't know, you don't have to

interject the whole time. You just say, you know what, this is four down territory we have, we're down here. We haven't been down here all the job, right, he's managing the team to including the coaches and making sure that they know what his plan is, which we didn't. I sorry, go ahead, I mean, just not trying to

argue with the caller. But this is so much more than just a black and white thing, and so to me, I just don't don't feel like you can just come in and say when they lose these close games, that's on the head coach, because history has shown that this team has actually been better in these close games, and Jason Garrett, that's one thing he's actually been pretty good at. And I don't think people give him credit for that. Of course they don't. So let's don't. Let's don't just

say it's completely because of this. I mean, it's got to be there is more to it than that, because that argument doesn't hold up well. And if they beat the Bills in overtime on Thursday, no one's gonna say he did a great job. So that's not it's not just that, But he is right about I think they need to do a better job of saying, play more than one play at a time, two or three plays ahead, we've got to get four yards, So don't call a stupid pass where he rolls out and throws it to

Shannon Gross in a corner over here. Actually run a play where we can get four yards. Would that We didn't even get into the analytics conversation, which I would like to have a segment on that, But yeah, I mean it doesn't Garrett, you know tis paraphrase. Garrett and Jerry both said, you know, they don't consult that stuff during the game, and it seems way too reactionary. I just I just thought about this while you were talking. Is like one of Garrett's favorite phrases is the only

thing that matters is what we do now. And it's great, and to a degree I like it. It's like, yeah, like, don't worry about the past. Worry about what you can do next, but maybe you need to make some informed decisions before you make them. You know what I mean is like you need to be You're not like, all right, we're gonna kick this field goal because it's fourth and seven. You need to be like, we can't be in fourth

and seven. You gotta be better than that, and that the only thing that matters is what we do now. It's just kind of like you're so reactionary. You're never thinking one to two to three steps ahead, or I think it bites him, or we haven't moved the ball to this point on the field the entire most of the game. We're down here now, we got to take

advantage of the opportunity. So let's think about how we get these plays called to be able to put ourselves in the best position to get us touchdown because we cannot take a field goal here because we don't know if we're going to get back to this plan right.

And if you think about it, Garrett basically just kind of told you about what he thinks about the analytics, because if he doesn't want to be telling Kellen Moore that this is a four down territory, he certainly doesnt want some guy up and you know, up in the box saying eighty three percent of the time they actually major mathematics like that. Don't want that if he doesn't think Kellen Moore could say, this is four down territory.

All right, guys, we appreciate you, John Us. We're back tomorrow. We're gonna wrap up this whole discussion about Cowboys versus Bills. Get you guys ready for the Thursday game. Till then. For Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, Danny Serek, I'm Derek EGLDN. This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.