Cowboys Break: Stopping Donald?

to the latest edition of The Break. We're live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. We are presented by Miller Lake, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys, and today we're going to talk about the Los Angeles Rams defense versus the Cowboys offense. Before we get to that, though, we had a couple of things I wanted to catch up on from the press conference and just some general news and notes around the Cowboys. Let's start with some injury updates. What's going on with Jordan Lewis Um I

don't know, I mean I don't think that. I don't remember him being asked in the press conference today. Was he always miss you speak the injury? What it is because I can't say the word growing. Yeah. Yeah, growing, I'll never say it right. So I always appreciate when people say it for or you say it real fast. I've got it run. Everybody's got a word like that, they just don't say. I mean, I'm so uncomfortable saying it. Yeah,

I don't know. It starts with an H and ends with an H. It's a Christmas term or a joyous term. I don't know whatever. Hallelujah. Yeah, And I don't say that word. I can't say it so hard. I just don't say it. Those els don't they don't work together. I can't do it. I'm not going it. No, I'm not gonna do it right. I can't hear, but I can say growing. And that's what Jordan lewis. Yeah. Um, but I have a hard time thinking anything that's a quick turnaround. I don't. I don't see that happening of

him playing um. I think he did. I think he's maybe working into a practice or maybe maybe he's getting to work with with um a brit right on the side. So that always is is an indication that it could be sooner than later on a return. But when you're when your backup comes in. You have two backups. One of them comes in and gets six tackles, which is Mkuamu, and then the other for the nickel backup, U Duran Bland.

You know has a good game get to pick. I don't know if they're gonna be rushing Jordan Lewis back this week, but I mean it certainly it's certainly gonna be a tough matchup because you might rob a veteran because who's facing not with a boat groin? Now I gotta say it like that. Yeah, goode, you know it's it's funny. Um, would you consider you cansider traveling? Do you consider traveling this week with Diggs? And I just kind of feel like that Cooper Cup is gonna get

his Yeah? Yeah, I just I mean, do you do you just totally because you're not going to take him out of the game, But if he gets fourteen catches, they still lose games. We've seen that. So do you do you say, Okay, we're gonna travel with and just let him get fourteen catches and mess everybody up up in the secondary. The thing I don't want I wouldn't want Alan Robinson to get going. You know, I think you have to figure out, like Cup, he's gonna get

probably fourteen catches. Just get ready for it. You know, Higbee the tight end, and I know we're going back and talking about their offense, but now I'm thinking about Okay, to me, he's the next most important thing that I have to take care of in this game. So I know the Cooper Cup's gonna make plays, Maybe I could take Higbee out of this game. Maybe I could find a way to limit him, because they're struggling getting the

ball to Alan Robinson. So if that's the case, maybe just by the way they're scheming, Robinson's struggling in these games, I think I traveled Diggs with Robinson. I would just take him and let Diggs take Robinson and then try to get him out of the game, and then you know, then you can double and kind of zone the other. You know. But it's hard. It's hard to just play it one way because the way they use them, they use them almost as a glorified running back. Yeah, you know,

I mean it was fourteen catches. It's almost like fourteen carries, which that's a still a lot of yards, right, one hundred and forty something yards. They had nine yards of reception on that and you're right, see that's terrible, but it's not. It's not great. That's when you watch the rams and you're saying, well they don't run the ball, well they yeah, they do. They throw the ball or a bunch formation and then everybody blocks their ads off for a nine yard game. That's how they that's how

they do it. Set asked, Yeah, I would. I would wonder if a week like this, I don't know about traveling just because I man, you know how it goes when you travel one guy. That means everybody's got to travel. Well,

everybody gets screwed up. Yeah, especially when you're talking about Cup, because if he travels from one, he's always going to move, so he's gonna come in motion, he's gonna go in short motion, and once he goes across the center, it changes everybody in the secondary for what they have to do. As good as this defense is playing, I would prefer to say, just play what you play, do what you do.

If cool, like you said, if Cup gets off and gets fourteen catches, that's fine, because we've seen this season they're two and two and he's getting that number of targets every single week and they lost two of those games, which makes me think that that doesn't kill you. If he gets that number of catches, you just don't want. You want to make sure that wherever he gets the ball, that's where he goes down. You know, only yards after

catch he goes down where he catches the ball. And if you do that, I think you can still be successful against this team. It to me, if they find a way to run the football against you and have success, I think that's far worse than Cup catching the bagery. I mean, because you know we've figured out here teams get behind the chains against the Cowboys, it turns into pass rush, it turns into pressure, and it turns into

punts for the opponent. So I personally worry about I know this just from being in you know and pro scouting and going on the road and evaluating. I said, listen, I know we can't run the ball again. I know we can't run the ball against anybody else, but we need to try and run it against these guys. We need to try and if we have success, it could help us win this football. I'm talking from a RAMS perspective that you know, as as an advanced scout. I would go back to Sean McVay and say, Coach, I

know it's three yards to carry. These guys will give you opportunity to run the ball. We just have to be committed to doing it. And that's that's what I kind of worry about with this crew right here. Ye, let's talk about a few other guys that showed up on the injury report yesterday. You got Donovan Wilson, you got Jake Ferguson, you got Quentin Bohannah. Do we know

anything about where they are? Can I'll comment about Ferguson because I know that when that one was a knee MRI was didn't show anything, so they're going to try and practice him and get him ready. I didn't get any indication that he wouldn't play. I know that was one of those once it popped up on the injury report and I said, oh, maybe I need to ask about this, but was told the MRI was negative or clean.

And so we'll see him out here trying to practice or maybe miss a day or two and then and then try and be ready for the game as other guys should be ready. I mean Donovan Wilson, I think had a rest day, and I think, you know, Balhanna should be working into practice, so we'll see. I mean, somebody's got to be inactive. So that doesn't necessarily mean he's gonna play, because he could be banged up enough where someone you know, takes his spot. But hopefully they

get j Ron curseback up this week. Right, he said he's playing, Yeah, he said. He said he's going to join the best safety a group in the league, without a doubt, best safety group in the league. So and that might mean taking Anthony bar off the field because me anthy barrs anburse roller coaster ride. It's the up, it's the down and step. Maybe you put a guy down in the box. He's a little bit better tackler down there. I feel like, you know, we haven't seen

we haven't seen Anthony Barr Bullitz. You know, maybe that's what Anthony Barr can do, but I haven't seen him. You know, I think once or twice maybe, But it's not like I thought it was gonna be. Yeah, And I do wonder if that's a little the way they're using him as a little out of role for him, because that can't cover. Yeah, what we've known about him most of his career is that he is He's a guy that goes after and so trying to play him as an off ball linebacker, it might be just something

that he's not as good at all. Right, let's uh real quick. I had there was a question that came up during the press comes I thought was interesting and I wanted to dive in a little bit. The question was about guys that or specifically about Fowler, but it kind of developed into other guys as well. Talking about the number of snaps they were getting him, Mike McCarthy said he wanted to get him more snaps. There were other guys he wanted to get more snaps. He mentioned

guys like Goalston and Hill and Gallimore. My question for you guys is based on that defensive run, he said. You know, it really is a great problem to have, but you know, because of the depth, it's hard to get some of the guys you want to get more

snaps more snaps. That being said, who would you look at on that defensive front where you would say, you know, if I had just one guy I wanted to give more playing time because I think it would help this team, it would be whoever, who would that player be Fowler? For me, I kind of feel like that, you know, with you know him Armstrong. I think Armstrong. I mean, I know on Wonder five three of the fan that

was my guy. That was my you know, a couple of guys that was Armstrong and Anthony Brown, guys I thought that were gonna you know, the game was gonna go. You know, Brown has kind of struggled a little bit, and Armstrong, I mean, he's had moments where he's been good. I think there's something about Fowler's game. Now. The thing that bothers me about Fowler is he's so anxious about getting up the field. Some those runs off the edge, the perimeter runs have been with him in the game.

You know, So am I asking, Oh, put a guy out there and they start running the ball and then all of a sudden it looks bad again. But I just think there's something about that veteran, that understanding of how to rush the passer. Because if people are gonna pay so much attention to Parsons, you know, you're gonna have to have the others. It's got to be it's got to be Tank, it's got to be Fouler, it's

got to be armstrong. It's got to be hill. Those guys they've they've got to step up and make place. But i'd like to see Fowler get more more opportunities if it was me, you know, a guy that probably enough for this year. Like, he's not Sam Williams. He's a guy that he has something that I really like about him. He's just a little young and reckless, and he's a rookie and he just needs to kind of

come on discipline here and not be so crazy. But that crazy is what also what I liked about him, and and just I've seen him go after guys with so much power and force and an aggressiveness. But he's not quite there yet. But he's only gonna get there. The more he gets, the more chances he gets, and the better his game will be cleaned up by those chances. So he's a guy that I would like to see him.

But then at the same time, I'm like, Okay, don't don't get penalties, stay, you know, clean up your game and all that. So it's kind of like a weird balance there. But he's a guy I'm definitely looking forward to as far as his development overall. Yeah, I don't really have an answer there. Honestly, I don't think there's one guy um that's that should be playing more. But because we're talking about this, I do want to bring this up about I was looking at the Cowboys depth chart.

This is there, this is this is where they were drafted. Okay, going to the top to bottom of the depth. Just let listen to this second round, third round, second round, first round, first round, fourth round, second round, fifth round, third round, third round, fifth round, undrafted free agent. That is the second team of the defense us right, That is that is what they're working with. Those those are not the starters. That is not the starters. That is

that is the second round, the second team. Yeah you look at bar you get Tristan Hill, you got you got um right right, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's the I mean, And and I kind of did that with the offense, and it doesn't look the same at all, you know, because they have multiple backups. Well let's go in Farniak are all, but still, I mean, like it's not the same. My point all along is that is that they've got great, great depth right now, and and

that that they're hard to get those guys on the field. Yeah, I mean that's you know, and the shout out to the to the guys that are starting. If you look at the let's do the Sacond thing with the starters. Second round, sixth round, third round, fourth round, first, first, sixth third, second, undrafted, sixth round first. I think I did that right. I don't know, um, I don't remember what Tonoman Wilson was. Sixth round, sixth round. Yeah, so

you know, I mean that's not super super impressive. It's just it's just kind of the way it works out. But I think from the young defensive guys like like you know, Sam Williams Gallamore and Tristan Hill, Dante Fowler he's not that young, but Jill Cod he was the first round, high high first round pick. Yeah, Anthony Barr. But but it's just this is hard to get on the field. They've done a nice job. Would you guys say to see more Bland? I would, And it looks

like we might. I mean, I know it's an injury right now, and you're gonna see him out of necessity because of what's going on with Jordan Lewis. But here's to me that you know, there's I mean him Wilson Bland, these guys, I mean we did the backup grades yesterday and stuff. I mean it was when it was weird because to me, it's like all these guys are playing well enough to be starters. When I when you say, boy, they might need to take away Higbee a tight end.

I look at Israel mcquama, a former cornerback who's big and he's playing as a safety. I'm sure he's added some some muscle and weight for to play that position. I see him as a tight end, tight end stopper, but a tight end matchup guy um and I think I think he would be you know, I see that Sean Wright kind of doing that too. Yeah. The thing about that is, though both those guys are even depth because you got j Ron Curse, who did a really good job at that same role last year, so you

started thinking about that, Yeah, that'd be great. They're also behind somebody. It's this defense is really really deep, I mean really deep. I think you almost have to treat Higbee like a wide receiver. I mean we used to see that you put a corner on him. Yeah, well

where Yeah. The thing about it is, remember the Rod Miranilli administration that We used to see Byron Jones every once in a a long when when the Eagles were really rolling with those tight ends that they had, you would see like like Byron Jones would leave corner and then he would go and play over. You know. Even Rob Ryan he would do it. You know, he would move guy,

move a corner on. So if you've got a guy that's a real real is a true weapon, and you put somebody on there that knows how to cover and knows how to carry routes and things like that, it's you know, you can't just say, oh, we're gonna put a linebacker on him, because he runs away from linebacker, even though you've got linebackers that can cover a little bit.

But I would treat Higbee like a like a wide receiver if it was me, especially on a team like this where you think he's probably the second best receiver, second best option right now, Yeah, he sure is. All right, we're gonna take our first break, we'll come back. We'll jump into the Los Angeles Ram defense versus the Cowboys offense is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. Todd thought it

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Do More, Esseler Welcome back. It is the second going to the Break Life and s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We are presented by Miller Light and this segment is presented by Blockchain dot Com. Let's jump into the Rams defense versus the Cowboys offense. Brian, as I did yesterday, I kind of qualified my first question of what do they do best with by saying outside of Cooper Cup, I think it's equally apropos to say that on the defense, outside of Aaron Donald, what's the best

thing that they do? Yeah, I think to me, they've got a player that can eliminate anybody in your receiving corps. They've got the guy now. He struggled at times. If you watched the Buffalo game, wasn't one of one of Jalen Ramsey's better games. Digs did a great job of in that game. He when you talk about Ramsey's super aggressive, He's going to play both sides. He's gonna line up on the left corner, he's gonna line up on right corner.

He's going to play in the slot occasionally, so he can walk wherever they feel like down a distance wise, they could say, okay, So it's not about a person necessarily, it's about situation. It's about a situation like they can they could take they could take him, and they can, you know, move him around. Raheem Wars the defensive coordinator has that ability. And they and you mentioned Donald because I'll say it with him, they do the same thing

with him. He's not just going to play the undertackle, the three technique on the shoulder of a of a guard. He's going to move around. He could play defensive end, he could play the one inside, he could play the three outside. So they're gonna move him around quite a bit. Uh. You know, Bobby Wagner will make every single tackle as a as a linebacker. He's getting up there in age a little bit, but if you leave him unblocked, he's

capable to finish. Leonard Floyd's a guy that i've kind of I kind of watch him rush, I watch him play, and I'm thinking, like, okay, you have to figure out a way as much attention as you need to pay with Donald. Floyd's a capable pass rusher as well. They're they're a little bit they're they're struggling a little bit right now because their cornerbacks are banged up, and so they're going with a rookie, this Kendrick. They're going with him and replace of David Long and you know, and

they've also Durant. The Nichols had some problems too. It seems like that people like Kendrick is one of those guys that gives a lot of room, so the slants, the end routes, things like that, the quick breaking routes and stuff. He's given up some some big plays. He went for an interception the other night the game against San Francisco, played it with the wrong hand and it ended up where Deebo Samuel caught the ball and went for a big, big game end up being a touchdown

right there. So yeah, it's a it's a It's a group that has some outstanding players, some of the best players in the league, but it also has guys in their starting lineup that will give up some plays, and so that's where the Cowboys have to take advantage. I don't think it's throw away from Jalen Ramsey, to be honest with you. I think there's some things you can try and do if you want to double move him

and stuff like that of how aggressive he is. I'd go for it because, like I say, there's film of him not you know, him guessing and not coming up big on the play. But if you're going to attack, if you're going to tackle a cornerback in this game, Kendrick number six is the guy you want to go at right here. And but be ready of them moving Aaron Donald around two as well. You're not gonna be able to get a beat on him, like he's not going to sit there in one spot, So be ready

for that. Is there a point of vulnerability in the front seven? I know you mentioned the cornerback, the rookie cornerback in the secondary. In the front seven is an area where you can exploit it either from the standpoint of being able to run or just an area where you think there's some opportunity to take advantage of a

guy in front seven. Yeah, I think that. You know, with a Sean Robinson is a little bit, you know him and Gaines and Donald, and then you know with this with Justin Hollands, you know they've got some guys that kind of Floyd is another one. I mean, they're so long on the edge that they're hard to They're hard to kind of reach because they extend on you

and stuff. So you know, teams have had some success just like taking the ball at them because Donal Donald will like hell, he'll jump a gap and you can maybe get him a little wide and then go in there. So the thing that where Donald makes the most of his plays are if you run the ball away and then he goes back door and then comes down the line. So running the ball at him is not a bad thing because he's trying like heck to avoid getting the gap and then make the play behind the line of scrimmage.

So I would try maybe inside would be a little bit better against these guys than trying to get on the edge because guys like Wagner he can run and get outside and then the length of these defensive ends I think is pretty impressive too. Any chance, the NFL just suspends Bobby wa this week because of his u assault on that fan. No, and I hope every player from now on starts destroying stupid fans and decide they

want to destroy them. Well, it drives me crazy that that now that the guy has a there's a police report out there, I'm like, come on, man, you ran onto an NFL field. What do you expect, Well, the NFL has got to do something because of the security guards that they got. I mean, they're rather a tear in their acls to trying to catch them. So we uh on radio. We talked about this the other day, and I think there needs to be a different plan of attack. If you're a field security person, you have

to be a former athlete. You have to be somebody forayers former player. I would love to see that. Yeah, I would love to see that because you don't need me in the in the red wind breaker trying to chase people around. It just doesn't work. So me and the red wind Breaker running around fall you're the supervisor. Yeah, so on Jesse Holly out there right bad? Did you guys see Maybe you did, maybe you didn't, just because

of my line of work. Did you see the lady They were having a problem in Minnesota with people chaining themselves In Minnesota, Timberwolves were having problems with people chaining themselves to the basket and stuff like that in protest for like peta stuff and things like that. Okay, there was a lady in the second row at a Timberwolves and this one security guard. Lady was looking looking looking, and as soon as that lady took off for the court,

Oh yeah, she tackled her right there. She's talked about destroying her, destroyed. That's what I'm saying. See okay, good vision awareness and tackles burst tackle burst, see not brow too. Yes, yeah, she went second row in between people that probably paid two grand a piece for these seats. Watson. So yeah, she went in there, got on her and got on before she got on the court, and then just bull took her down right there. That's what you gotta have.

You can't have like, you know, it's like Laurel and Hardy out there, old you know, running around Benny Benny Hill, the old be you know, and pay them. Yeah, and then like you blowing a killing somebody did that guy in the black shirt, he was out, That's what I'm saying. So to me, those guys are okay in the stands, But if you're on the field, you have to be a former athlete. You can't. We can't have embarrassment of people running around forever. I think I think it should

just be the practice squad for both teams. You just if anybody you do yeah, like you're there, you get to play a little bit. And they're hungry too, so you know they're going to devour anything that gets onto the female. Just need a better plan, better plan, Devin Harper or he's not on the practice squad, he's he's actual, you know, inactive, but the inactives and the practice squad,

that's your job. Yeah. I love that. I love that, But I think it's ridiculous that people are now putting in police reports because they're where they're not supposed to be and they got hit by somebody, Like, yeah, was it targeting or was it a good hit? I mean I think like it was a good bow up. Yeah, he bow him up. But I think he should be suspended for week this week. You know that's actually a good point. Is he? Is he really? My question? I just derailed that whole thing, But I mean, is he

Bobby Wagner? Yeah? He still makes tackles, still makes tackles. And that's the thing about it is though, I mean to me, it's I try and run the ball at these guys. I do because I think that they're so anxious about getting up the field and getting the past rush stuff going that naturally there's some gaps. There's some natural gaps with guys trying to work their way backside

and then work their way down. So you know, I wouldn't the plan you had this past week against the Commanders where you were taking the ball at them might not be a bad thing to you know. And one thing about you talked about Treyvon moving around, and Aaron Donald moves around too. Michael Parsons moves around. You know a lot of times what happens is is the reason why Aaron Donald and J. J. Watt was the same way when he was at the high level. They're right

in the middle. They just disrupt everything. But when you start getting cute and they put them on the outside and all that stuff, that's when you need to run the ball right at him. Because some body is a defensive tackle is either an end inside or a backup tackle or something because they're trying to do all these things. And that's what happens too. Like when when Mike is moving around, it's the guys that are kind of replacing him.

Is I think somewhat of a vulnerable spot where that was almost another word, um, but but I think that you got to just take advantage of when they try to move those guys around. I don't think Aaron Donald because of matchups. I don't think he's gonna move as much. I think he's gonna go after McGovern or be oddest right there and be like, this is my best spot, kind of like Chris Jones did in the Chiefs game

last year. Yeah, you will see him. When they get Nickel, they try and move him to the outside and play a little end so they match him up on tackles, which is kind of a I mean, probably a win for them, and that's probably a pretty good matchup for them. I would they will search, they will search, they'll search the matchups for you. So I don't know about that honestly. I mean I think, yeah, he could. I mean, at

times he's a freak of nature. I mean Aaron Donald is, but you know, he's not the tallest guy in the world. So when you got a guy with some power and leverage like both Smith does and Steal, I think there'll be some times that they can win as well. Um, I think his best matchup is going to be inside on beardist McGovern but you know, we'll see, we'll see

how it goes. I mean the first time he gets around Steel, you're gonna be like seelem because I said, because of his length, Um, something that's starting to concern me a little bit or worrying me. Um. The more we advance is and we know, the more film you put on, the more film there is out there of games, the better other teams can prepare to attack you and go against you. With the way that Kellen Moore has kind of simplified the offense to better fit what Cooper

Rush is doing in his abilities. Are you guys concerned at all that now we're getting maybe at a point where other teams can kind of Okay, we got you figure out in the simple things that you kind of do, and and we've seen it before when when teams do that and got Kellen Moore figured out, they slap you in the face and it's just not going to be enough for them to score the amount of points that they're currently scoring. So I don't know if we're at

that point just yet. We're a team like the Rams can kind of better prepare an attack an offense like the Cowboys currently have right now, or if we would come and happen like next week in a week against the Eagles, yeah, you know, and your point is is great because you do you watch where Kellen Moore is even trying to trying to help his quarterback is even when the ball's going down field, the max protect stuff.

It's like, you know, damn, I know I can't block this thing straight up, so I've got to keep a receiver in, I keep tight ends, and I keep backs in. Whatever I have to do. You know, this is going to sound just very simplistic like the offense, but this is who you are, you know, this is this is how you have to function right now because you don't. I don't think your quarterback. Your quarterback is steady. I don't think he's dynamic enough to to you know, call

those plays. But I'm okay if they max protect and take shots. Because if it's a fifty fifty ball and you're you know, you're gonna either catch it or maybe you get the PI. You know that. That's that's how I'm at if I'm for, however, to manufacture offense because I know I'm limited at quarterback. My guy's good, but I don't think he can make all the throws. And that's the thing that scares me right now, is like he's good enough. Can you score enough points to beat

somebody like the Rams? And this is a different challenge than it is against the Commanders or the Giants or something. This quarterback to me, and I know there's been some struggles here. He's going to put up some points or he's capable of putting up points. Can you match him in that regard? The one thing is um uh, you know, with Cooper Rush hasn't had to play at a level where, you know, where he's had to put up thirty something points because the defense has kept him in a game

where he doesn't have to do that. So I don't know that that's what scares me about the next two weeks. The Rams are capable of putting up points, so are the Eagles, you know, but through three weeks into this whole thing, you're going into week four with Cooper Rush, I mean at a point where maybe we start seeing Kellen Moore incorporate a little bit more dynamic plays some well. I think the deep shots. I think the deep shots are something that he probably didn't want to do the

first couple of weeks. But you know, you also now have gallops exactly exactly. Yeah, So I you know that's it's a great question. But man, to me, if I'm Kellen Moore, I just keep calling that plays I'm calling because you're not turning over the ball. You know, you're not risking it for you know, for something that might not work. Yeah. This is also why I think the whole conversation on Dak versus Cooper is kind of shortsighted, because as time goes on, it's going to get harder

on Cooper Rush. The league has been doing right exactly didn't run the ball. The league has been trying to figure Dak out, and they have in some respect some things that they figured out they can create problems for him, but that's not a new thing for Dak. As time keeps going on, Like people forget Cooper Rush is not throwing for a ton of yards every week. I mean, I think he's und his averages under two hundred yards a game. Like, he's not throwing for a lot of yards.

And so right now they're just kind of making it work basically by playing great defense and being committed to the run, not necessarily being great at the run, being committed to the run. And I think that's a good formula for them to win, but it also has an expiration date. At some point, you're gonna need a little more firepower, especially if you start talking about playing teams, as Brian says, that have more offensive firepower that might be able to put up that extra six to ten

points on the right. Are how close are we to that expiration date? Yeah, and I personally think that Brian. I agree with Brian that starts this weekend. Now whether the Rams can figure it out this weekend, because they didn't look great against a good defense last week in San Francisco. But Philly, I think Philly definitely can present

some problems. And that's why I'm hopeful that maybe Dak is backed by that game, and if he's not, we will find out a lot about Cooper Rush and how much this offense maybe willing to stretch a little bit when you play a team that may be able to score more than the teams that you've played so far. All we're gonna take our final break when we come back. Got a few more questions on the Rams defense for us. The Cowboys offenses is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. The

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trial of NFL Plus today. Welcome back final segment of the Break Life inst WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star present by Miller Light, the Only Beer of the Dallas Cowboys. Here's my next question for you guys. Right now, this rushing defense for the Rams is seventh in the league. They are twentieth in passing defense, which does make you think it's going to be a hard day on the

ground again like it was last week. My question for you is do you think Dallas should stick to the strategy of we're going to be committed to the run versus we're only going to be committed as long as it works. I think they need to be committed to the run, but I think they need to be more dynamic in what they do. I mean, if you look at the playoff game the Cowboys lost to the Rams, what three years ago, I thought that was kind of the start of the end for like Layton vander ash

and Jalen Smith from what we've thought. They got abused in that game, but they got moved laterally, you know. And I think the reverse runs and things like that. As Sean mcvagh was really good at. I think Kellen mornings to implement that. They have a speedster on the outside. They really have it unleashed in that role. Turpin, I don't think Turpin can be effective without even touching the football. You can do those kind of things with them. I

think they needed to run latterly. You can't just run right at the Rams. But if you go side to side with the Pollard and Turpin and even Zeke at times, you know, I think that's the way I would attack it, but still keeping keeping it safe for Cooper rush. Yeah, that's that's a good plan. I wish this team was good at screens. Just not. I mean, it's just everybody. I watched tape all week and watch the Rams. The

Rams are going to screen you to death. They're gonna try to They're not gonna let the pass rush affect how they're gonna play. And so you know, if they if I think they're going to be committed to trying to run the football. If they have success, great, they'll keep running it. If they don't, then they'll just turn into the screen game, is what they'll do. And then all of a sudden, you're you know, you're coming up, You're coming up, and then the ball goes down the field.

It's one of those games. You really, Derek, you brought it up. You gotta tackle well in this game. You mean you can't let Cooper Cup run after catch for forty five yards and a touchdown or something like that. I mean, we've got to find a way to get bodies to the ball and make it happen. But for Dallas, I mean, I like what you're saying, Nick. I just feel like though it's it's they're they're just kind of figuring out now about Okay, we've got we've got gallup.

Let's try and get the ball down the field. Let's try and throw some deep shots. I'm I'm all for that because again, I feel like that that you're either going to get the past interference, you're gonna get a catch if you get it intercepted. It's down on that end. You know, fine, we'll play defense, let's go. But you know, the more shots that they take down the field that way and Max protect, I don't think that's a problem.

But man, I think the Cowboys are just so much on a razor's edge when it comes to their offense. With Cooper Rush, It's just like it's either man, if the run get if the run goes, you got a shot. If the run doesn't go, it's like OG's when we're throwing off our back foot all day, here we go. You know. So those are the things that scare me about about these boutcher Cowboys offense. Another thing I wanted to point out to you guys. He talked a lot about Aaron Donald and how great he is, but I

was shocked to see this. You know that they are the Rams have the worst team in the league when it comes to their pressure percentage. Yeah yeah, And that's the other part, Like, yeah, they blitz, they're six then the number of times they blitz per drop back, but they are dead last in the percentage of pressures they get per drop back. So the question becomes, first of all, how has the Dallas offensive line performed when they've been blitzed a lot night Some of the other teams that

they've played are our heavy blitzing teams. I think the Giants are first in the league or second. Yeah, yeah, the percentage of times they blitz. But that being said, how do you think the offensive line for the Cowboys, which is a relatively inexperienced line, how they done with regards to picking up blitzes. Man too, when you when you watch The All twenty two. The biggest problem the Cowboys have is when people blitz and they bring a twist off the blitz, because then you don't have you

don't have the continuity. You know, go back to twenty sixteen and when people would blitz Dack, they're thinking, oh, he's a rookie, blitz him. But then you had guys like Ron Leary and Tyron Smith passing off stunts. And you know, that's the biggest problem that you have with

this current. You just got young guys, you got you know, I mean, I know we're you know, fifth week of doing this, but there has been kind of a revolving door at guard at left guard, and so when you when all of a sudden, it's like, is where's the continuity with that? And you know, I always worry about

the power with the right tackle. I think the right guard is fine, but the center and the guard when they twist or they bring stunts behind that, that's where it has the most the most And that's where I would worry if I was a Cowboy fan, is that they're going to move you and then bring something behind the twist to get at home. And now that makes Zeke or Pollard have to search and find and get that sorted out. That's that's how Tampa got you a little bit, you know, early in that in that game.

You see where Bobby Wagner said on us on Twitter on Cooper Rush, he said, just because a guy has been good against the Blitz so far, doesn't mean he'll be good on Sunday. And the first comment on Twitter was, just because the guy was good five years ago doesn't make him good now, which I think he is. He's still pretty good. He'd like to have Bobby And you know, if you remember, I mean that was that was a thing.

I mean they were talking about that. The Cowboys were looking into that uh to signing signing him, and you know, ultimately they got bar at a I'm sure a cheaper problem about nine million dollars hit. Yeah, but you also got a guy that that wasn't ready to play, I mean at the time, and it's taken a while to learn the system and all that. So I mean there's

there's good and bad to that. I guarantee you. Jason Peters and Anthony Barr's con you know, the deals have gone down, but you know you're not ready to to play and let me let me jump on that part about Jason Peters. We did a mail back question on that, Um, you know Jason Peters, Like at this point, like, I don't believe that the Cowboys think that Peters is better than McGovern. Yeah, I mean, because this is a season.

What Peter, He's been here a month, he's been here a month, he's practiced for a month, and he's played sparingly in two games. That is what a preseason is. You practice, you have a couple of games here in their second and third preseason games, and now you're ready to go, and he's not not taking the spot of McGovern. So and Tyler Smith hadn't taken the spot of McGovern either. So I mean, I think it is what it is right now. We're kind of waiting for Peters. I think

it's time. I mean if he would have if he's ready to go, he would be ready to go and I wouldn't be this game though, when you would expect that he would be ready to go. Well, that's that's my point, because I think they've got a really good defensive tackle on the other side, and you would like to come back that with power and he should have that if Peters does with massive body so if he doesn't play this week, to me is like that's what

they believe. They believe McGovern's a better option. They protected their bet by signed Peters because they weren't sure really how good Tyler Smith was going to sht or when Tyron Smith would come back, and if at all, yeah, Tyred Smith, they're thinking, okay, maybe December, right, Okay, So they get Peters because they don't know that Tyler Smith. They're thinking, man, we kind of liked him at tackle. You know, we're gonna put them out there and see

how it goes. But they protected themselves on the bet is what they did. They protected themselves with Anthony Barr for you know, for a linebacker for Parsons and guys like that, vander ash and people like that. So it was a couple of protections, low money protection deals. But I would not be surprised if if somehow, some way Tyron Smith comes back earlier than we expect that Jason

Peters is no longer here. I could I could see something like that if they needed a roster spot that you know, with what and maybe it is maybe they do, I don't know. If they want to kick. I've been wrong about this before, but to me, if Tyler, if Tyron Smith is healthy, I'd play him at left tack when I kick the other guy inside, and I think you're a ton better. That's what the plan was going to be, I think initially, right. So I don't know, they might not move Tyler Smith now that he's playing

well at left tackle. But I know we've seen only a small portion of Peters, but currently, based on what we've seen, who do you feel is better at guard like govern or Peters. I mean I would say Jason Peters though, but I mean I would say that because because what I with this team has lacked is power to run the football, and I think that was Tyler Smith and Peters over McGovern because, be honest, is what

he is. I mean, he's not the strongest guy in the world, but I mean there's more to playing center than that. So you know, you can't just have this big, strong center who snaps the ball all over the place, you know, So it is what it is. I would go with Peters. Well, I kind of wanted though McGovern just because like we saw a little bit of it last week. When Peters is in there. He's still an older guy and he's not as fleet of foot as

you might want it to be. And certainly when you have situations where you want him get those reach box like those are things that he's not going to be able to do. And the way they run the ball, they don't have just a typical power run game. That's not the majority of what they do. They're gonna ask their their guards to do a little bit more and I just don't know if he can do some of

those things. So for whatever he gives you more in power, I think McGovern gives you a little more flexibility with a lot of a variety of different things you'll want him to do, and I think he might be a better option from that standpoint. I think it right now. I think we were all encouraged by what we saw initially from Peters and the problem was he was playing against a power player last week in those guys and

the struggled. You know, so if you're playing in because you're playing against for power to match power, yeah he didn't. It didn't match power. But now you're now really max pow. You're matching quickness with leverage. When you talk about playing you know, with Aaron Donnell and stuff. You know that strength. So there's it's honestly, there's no great answer. And I always hate riding the fence about that because I the whole thing with mc McGovern early and you know, some

of the stuff in camp and Tampa. Until he got hurt, he was looking okay. I'm like, all right, yeah, here we go, and you know, and then he came back last week and it's like he never played football. You know, there was things he was doing. But I think a lot of it had to do with those guys playing inside for the Commanders. Yeah. I think those guys make you look so bad. And you got a few of those coming up, like you got that coming up against Philly.

You're gonna have that this week. Like that's that's gonna be the natural thing for these next several games. Right, all right, appreciate you guys, Joan Us'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna get you guys ready for the game. Give you our final thoughts on what we think's gonna happen till then for Nick even Brian brought us Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been the Break Live on

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