Cowboys Break: Standouts From #DALvsWAS

Season thirteen, episode number sixty four. Welcome to another edition of The Break Life s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. It's casual, mondays, I guess I didn't get the memo, but but everybody else is here in account it for you have meetings and stuff, right yeah? Well I don't so so you can just do whatever you want to do, right yeah? Who what HR says about what we should with? I ran into the director of HR. He was good in the cafeteria and she goes, you fight, You fight, Dave.

I mean, I guess you was that was good? Perfect If you looked like Obi wan Kenobi to her? No, I guess you weren't wearing the hood at that point. No, which would be strange as to why you didn't come get on the air and say it's a good time to put on the hood. I'm Dave Hoodie today, like Darth Hoodie, Bill Belichick. I'm channeling my inner except it's yeah,

so strange. Victory Monday. It is victory Monday. Cowboys get a big win yesterday, and according to a couple of people on in this group, it was a needed win. If they didn't win that the season was basically over. I think that's what you said. He I never said the season would be over if they lost this game, but I thought it was a significant game. It was a significant game. Cowboys win thirty three nineteen in what was ball accounts like a monthsoon, Like the rain was

really there was a ton of rain. And I can't remember a game. I'm sure there's been some. I can't remember a game that I've been at where there was as much rain from start to finish, Like it started in the beginn and it was just kind of a drizzle and it picked up and when he picked up, it didn't seem to ever stop. It seemed like it was just a constant rain. You heard Dak talk about it after the game, talk about how the balls got heavier and heavier, and it just it was a tough

Those were tough conditions to play it. Yeah, Like it sucked for I mean for them we were drying the press box, but I was. I actually I wanted to go out. None of y'all. Y'all were all smart enough not to join me, but I wanted to go out at the end, just to kind of get a feel for what it was like out there. How long were you went on the plane, Like the whole way back wet. Yeah. When I changed like to go to bed, I was

still kind of drying off. Like it was just like soaking wet, just NonStop from about late second quarter until we got on the plane. It did not stop. Yeah. Like one of the reporters asked Dak last night, He's like, can you please explain how does it feel to be playing under the rain so that fans can really get an idea what it's like. Well, just go outside when it's raining and throw the ball and see how it feels.

Go find out for yourself. Yeah. So yeah, they've wanted to find out for himself to see what it was like out there, right, And he did, and you figured out that it was not fun right. Basically, yeah, it was nice in the rainy and cold. But let's get into some of the more some more of the more interesting points of the game. And I think it has to start with Ezekiel Elliott. This guy is just playing

phenomenal football right now. And I think it all starts with the fact that that offensive line is playing phenomenal football right now. Once they started kind of getting their thing together, they started to see these holes open up. And when when Zeke sees holes and he gets through them and he makes big runs for them. Yesterday he has thirty three carries, one hundred and fifty yards four point five average, two touchdowns. Talk about how he performed, Nick,

what you what'd you see out there? Well? I just thought it was one of those games where you know, with the rain the way it was, you need somebody to just grind out some yards, and I thought he did that. I thought it was nothing flash, no touchdowns runs like we saw two weeks before in San Francisco or a week before in San Francisco. But but this was just kind of more of your Nfcees Cowboys Redskins type of game. And I thought he really did U he played well when the offense. It was gonna be

tough to move the ball. It is tougher to throw it, especially in the red zone. And I thought he did an excellent job for them. This. Uh. The interesting thing about all of this when it comes to Ezequiel Elliott is as of today, the whole narrative changes. Even though he had such a great game this week and has been playing well the last couple of weeks, everything could change today. Will go to our legal expert here, David Hellman, who wears a hoodie now tell us, like what the

hood don't like that? Don't like the hood I made a popular but hey, what's happening today? What is the layout of what's happening in a day? With regard to Ezekiel Elliott in his court case, Zeke did not fly back with the team last night because he is going to his hearing with Judge Catherine Failure fail in the second District of New York today. It's supposed to start about four pm. I don't think this is one like La two weeks ago. Was unique because that was just

a trro. It wasn't an injunction like that. Hearing took what an hour and we got a ruling later that day. I'm not under the impression that's going to happen today. There's gonna be a hearing today, and then we will hear what's going to happen sometime this week. I think I'll be surprised if we actually get a ruling tonight. I think that's gonna come later. But the judge, you know, we had Daniel Wallack on our show a couple weeks ago.

He laid all this out. That's happening today. The judge that was supposed to hear that, who wasn't there at the time, is going to hear this situation and decide whether or not to grant him an injunction. There are steps he can take if he loses this hearing, he can appeal again, but I believe he have to do that while suspended. So this week we're going to find out whether probably he plays for the rest of the

season or he continues this fight while he's serving his suspension. Yeah, and the injunction, just to be clear, the way I understand it is, what they're basically going to be hearing today is the argument that Zeke should be able to play while this makes its way right through the court while the court cases is proceeding. The NFL is obviously saying that they don't want him playing during that time.

His representatives are saying there is undo I mean, there is a harm that cannot be undone to Zeke if he has to miss time and then has proven proven to be wins his case in the end. So the judge has to decide whether there's enough merit in this case that Zeke has enough of a case that he should be able to play, and that there is going to be unreparable harm done to him if he doesn't get to play in the meantime. So a lot to be able to figure out. But David sounds like that's

not a decision and necessarily come today. It's a decision. It may come at some point this week, you would presume, and then we'd find out whether he can play. At this point, I'm saying myself up for failure by trying to predict it. But I bet I'm like, this also doesn't seem like something that's going to drag out until Friday at close time, Like I'm I think like by Wednesday evening we'll know. That's just sort of my gut and the reality is the judge I assume could make

a bench decision there. But I don't I agree with you. I don't think it does happen, but I think it's probably gonna be a little bit for her deliberate. I'm like I said, the last hearing for the tro took like fifty minutes. I'm under the impression this one's going to take a couple like a few hours. I would be again, I'd be surprised if we hear anything definitive tonight. Okay,

So I just don't think it'll go past Tuesday. I mean, I know that the NFL work, I mean, the court systems, they don't care about the NFL and all that I know about. But I just I just don't feel like it'll well. Okay, if it does go past Tuesday, I think the I think that he probably will play. I mean, now I don't. I don't know about that, just because

the NFL. One of the things that the NFL got criticized about was for them to now claim that there would be irreparable harm to them if Ezechuel is allowed to play. One of the arguments people brought up was, well, you were going to let him finish out a week and say hey, you can go ahead and play this week if the decision came later in the week. And in the last instance when when when the ruling was was shot down, they said he's just suspended immediately because

they didn't by a week. I hear you, But I just I have a feeling like the NFL is just for purposes of how it looks. I think no matter when it happens, they're probably going to say this is immediate I think with how contentious it's been and how I mean ze, you know, you could argue with everything that played out before the season, like they were blindsided and they didn't blah blah blah blah blah whatever, like you know, you had short notice that this was going

to happen. But I think everybody knows that this has been a possibility basically since the season started. And if he doesn't get the ruling that he wants, I bet he's immediate out gone. Yeah, So this is gonna be interesting. We'll see what all plays out today. It'll start at four pm, and then we'll see how long it takes four the judge to then make a decision. Whatever that decision is just not this shouldn't be groundbreaking if you've

watched the last three or so Cowboy games. But for all the gnashing of teeth we've been doing about Zeke and like, hi, has he lost the step and he doesn't look the same, he is currently on pace for fifteen hundred and seventy seven yards and fourteen touchdowns. Yep. So he's right back on track where he was, and I think we can all agree it would not be great for this team's fortunes if he's not available. Yeah, saw in graphic last night to sit through. I think

it was twenty two games. I think that's what he's played at this point. There have been there have been only three guys that he's second as far as the number of yards that he's had in the first twenty two games of his career. But it was touchdowns? Was it touchdowns? Twenty one touchdowns in twenty two games with and then one above him was Berry? Okay, then that wasn't the ground. Look Sorry, the graphic I was looking to had three guys on it. The first guy was Dickerson,

Zeke was second. The third guy was Earl Campbell. So it's like we're talking about two different pretty that's pretty good. He's company. He's in really really good company, really good comp out. We were talking about how he if he would have hit that one hundred and fifty yard mark, yeah on Friday, right on the note, right on the mark, right there, And it's surprising. We were looking at the stats and it's surprising to me when I looked at it, I'm like, he got that many yards, Like it's insane

because you don't what was the longest one? He had sixteen fourteen yards? Yeah, but from the very beginning, little by little like but it's unnoticeable just because they're not big place, you know, so when you look at the end result, you're like, oh wow, he actually did really really good. Yeah, in from the very beginning of the game, i mean he's hitting him for five six seven yards pop. I mean every every time he got the ball and then he have he'd have one that was like no

game on one game. But then he hit fourteen right, So very beginning of the game, you're you're forgetting the first place. I mean that was a four yard run to be fair, but it wasn't. Well he made it up with a touchdown. Yeah, it was a funnel, but

he got four yards. He definitely made it up. And that's pretty much what my column was about, was the defense giving up a big play on the first drive that they got in after, you know, a real drive, and Nugent's first field goal was a miss and his first carry was a fumble, but all three of them, I mean, when you look at those two guys, and then the defense as a whole won the game for him. So it wasn't really how it started, was definitely how

it finished. Yeah, they gave up a field goal, touchdown, field goal first three drives and then didn't give up another score, and so I think it was too something or left in the fourth quarter. It was. I think it was a really really dominating performance by the defense. But we'll get to that ahead. So I just think, I mean, let's be let's be fair about it. It doesn't matter because it never matters when it happens to

the Cowboys. But that was the most banged up football team I've ever seen, maybe ever, and got worse during and it got worse. Yeah, I've just never seen anything like what the Redskins are going through right now on their offensive line and then just you know, even their blocking tight ends and it was a mess for them. Uh, you don't feel sorry for him, just the way it is. But I don't feel sorry. You take they said, you don't feel okay, though I heard no, no, you don't

feel sorry. Okay, but but you you know it's you just remember, okay, that you can you can acknowledge that both things can be true, Like so few people want to admit that in talking football. But it can be true that the Redskins are ridiculously banged up. It can also be true that it doesn't matter, and it doesn't matter. It's just that I don't think that Crawford, Irving, and Lawrence are going to be teammates in the Pro Bowl.

I mean, just because of that. But even though even though I was about to say that way, those three, I don't know, those three won't make it all to the Pro Bowl as it don't know. I'm I'm waiting two of them might. I don't know. I mean, I'm waiting. Hold, I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop on those guys. But I did the DeMarcus Lawrence is on pace for twenty four sexs. David Irving is on pace for twenty three games five sacks. Even Tyrone Crawford's on pace for nine.

He's got four through seven, and I mean, good goodness, gracious, did he ever look fantastic? What maybe for the first time? Oh wow, special delivery. I'm in the middle of a show here. I mean, okay, nice, well, we ruined, not ruined. I mean there are breaks. You can get water during breaks. Thanks Shannon, thank you. Get out. All right, let's selah, Let's get back to some talk. Let's talk a little

bit about Dak. Dak yesterday had he was fourteen of twenty two for sixty four with a sixty four percent completion percentage, one hundred and forty three yards, zero touchdowns, zero interceptions, eighty two point two quarterback rating. I personally believe he did exactly what he needed to do in those kinds of conditions for them to have a win. I've seen some people who said he didn't play very well. What do you guys think about how Dak played yesterday?

I think that you know, they won the game. That's in that situation. That's all you can really do. It's an ugly game. It's an ugly game, so why would it be a beautiful performance from from the quarterback. I mean, it's just now. The one thing that strikes me kind of oddly, I guess, is that Cousins talked about what they did all week long to try to prepare and Dak and then said that they did nothing to prepare yep um, but they didn't really have any other than Zeke.

They didn't have any any turnovers or anything like that. Um, you know, handling the ball. Now, he didn't throw the ball well. I don't know if Cousins wasn't that great either throwing it so for like two two or six. Yeah, yeah, but that's what they do. I mean, they're running back, had what twenty yards so well, and that didn't really make mistakes. It's not not what one that I can remember, And I would say that's all you can really ask

for under that condition and that type of situation. I mean, there were some balls that weren't completely on target, but again, and that kind of situation, I don't expect ball a lot of balls to be on target. I mean that that kind of game is a game where you're not going to be able to throw the ball as precisely as you normally do. It's just that's just the fact

of the batter. If you think Dak played poorly, you're either stupid or you don't people I'm telling you right now, or you don't understand what the rain was like last night. Those are that's probably a good Those are the two options. Like you you're dumb, or you saw it on TV and you're like, it's not raining that hard, But it really was. And I actually made it a point to come here early and have breakfast and had some conversations about because you know, Dak doesn't give great answers about

this stuff because he's Dak. I was like, at some point in that game, you kind of realized that you had to change the way that that y'all wanted to do this thing. And they're like, yeah, I mean, you know, it gets to a point where the rain's fallen that hard and the balls that saggy. You see Dak start missing some throws that you know he wouldn't miss in normal conditions, and you're like, well, yeah, and you know,

we gotta lead. What are we doing here. Let's just let's just get out of here and not put ourselves in any bad situations. And that's exactly what they did. Dak didn't make any mistakes. He added, you know the element of the run game that he's had and had a nice ten yard run that to pick up a first a crucial first down. Actually, I went back and looked at it too. He completed five passes for thirty eight yards in the second half. Three of those five

were third down conversions on crucial drives. He picked up a third and three to Cole Beasley on an eventual field goal drive. He picked up a third and seven to Ryan Switzer or a third and six to Ryan Switzer on a seven yard pass on another field goal drive. And he completed a third and five to deaz on the drive that let him run the clock all the way down to one minute, so when he had to have it, he still had it. And otherwise, why wouldn't you do anything but lean on your running game in

a situation like that. I talk built for that. Yeah, I'd talked to a guy, one of the players after the game, and I won't say who it is, but this future Hall of Famer said that he thought that it's not Orlando. Sorry, it was a future hide in and not talking him. Jeff swam. Nice nice diving attempt there. Brendon Carr man, I'll tell you what. Hey, were you going? I want to hear this story. I feel like Jason Witten just said, it's not anymore. That's not football anymore.

It rings like that, that's not football, that's not what that's not you know what we practice all week long. It's just it all goes out the window. He was like, you know how many red zone opportunities I was going to have in this game? And like it just changes everything. So even Bryce Butler was saying, how there's a play they put in for him. He runs onto the field, he goes in motion, he goes into the corner. The ball is supposed to go to him. He goes, what happens,

I won't run the route. I am wide open. I'm sitting there by myself going hey, Dak hey, and he goes yeah. He goes just like, hey, I'm hoping over here. Hey. It's like it passes for me and that goes into dead was like, what's that? But that He's like, they That's why I'm in the game. So, I mean the point is as everything goes out the window, yeah, when that happens, yeah, and well, but the great thing is, you know you can argue about these things till you're

blue in the face. We have we're very unfortunate to have. We we know what it would have looked like if it hadn't rained, because you saw the first quarter and a half of the game. They zipped right down the field. Dak was Dak got like five receivers involved on the first possession. He threw it to Whitney, threw it to Swain, he threw it to Daz, he threw it to Terrence. Terrence was set up. Looked like Terrence was going to have the best day of his season. And then like, yeah,

like you said, it all goes out the window. But I will say this, we also saw on the other side of the ball too, maybe what could have sure, Yeah, that's a great They hit a couple of those. They hit that deep ball to the crowder, and I was like, Wow, this is this is gonna be? Is this what the day is gonna be? Like? I mean, that was a game where it was destined for, you know, thirty forty points of boat teams until the rain started. That's a

great point. And going back, you know, I don't yeah, I don't want to name names, but conversations I have with people here is like, you know, by that point, by the time it really started raining, we had a lead, and we knew that they were going to have to throw in those conditions, which isn't good for anybody because they can't run. That's the problem. They can't run. Yeah, they only had what forty nine yards rushing overall? Yeah, three point three yards per carry? Yeah? All right, sorry, god,

no good, It's just you're right. Maybe it is a little fortuitous because this team is built to handle that, and the Washington Redskins are not cloud at all. All right, we're gonna take our first break when we come back. I want to dive into this defense, which, although the rain was the rain, they did play I think what may have been one of their better games of a season against a really good offense. We'll talk about when you come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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Stetson hats are handmade right here in Texas and have been on cowboys heads for over one hundred and fifty years. The rest of you can visit stetson dot com slash Cowboy to find a retailer nearest you. Back to the brink, Welcome back. It's the second segment show lock Ins WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, we're talking about the Cowboys big win, they win thirty three nineteen over the Washington Redskins, and we've talked a lot about the offense. Now let's

talk about this defense. This is the second game in the row where they've had three turnovers, which I think is probably the biggest stat line for this defense because up until last week before the game against San Francisco, we were talking about that's the thing that they needed to do more than anything else, get some turnovers. They've gotten three turnos in both of the last two games. Why are you looking like that? Like no, what I start seeing they look on your face like not even

that you not? I just I'm they got three turnovers. Was great, They played great, but they broke They broke my heart because because like the two dudes that I wanted to see make plays, Taco and Jalen had a shot at one like back to back to back, right, and they both broke my heart. Like I thought that was gonna be it for Taco, Like, Okay, that's a tough play for a defensive end to make. I don't know what he was doing back there though, he I

mean they dropped and drops sometimes. Yeah, and then and then Jalen has a shot and to me, you know this and that would have been two weeks in a row where he has this amazing play and he couldn't even did the swipe and everything, and then they took it and he just broke my heart. But they did play really well. They did play well the defense. They got four sacks. Irving had two, Crawford had one, Lawrence had one. Uh, they had um you know, and that's

that's crazy that they didn't give one to Scandrick. I guess because the ball hit Yeah, that's you know, Scandrid comes off the edge and then you know Cousins is going to throw it. He's about to throw it. I mean to me, if you're about to throw that the sack, Yeah, I don't understand that. Yeah, I don't either. But he had a really good game to Orlando, did I had

a really good Um. You look at just everything they were able to do yesterday and all the defensive players that that played, well, who do you think stood out the most of those defensive players? Nick Wow? Um, it's it's a three way tie for sure for me. But I on the roundtable that we did Friday, I said, you know, I think Irving will have success. I think Lawrence will have success. Crawford needs to also come in

there and play really well too. You get three guys doing well, So I'm gonna say Crawford, I mean, I thought he did a really nice job. Had it had a sack, forced the fumble and uh field goal. That was to me, that was the play of the game, no doubt. That was the play of the game they needed at at that moment, and they got it, and they got him in position. They scored two plays later in point it was huge, a ten point swing, which down nine and you go up one, just like that.

I have no beef with that. Ty That was probably the best game of Tyrone Crawford's career, and certainly his best game since he signed that extension. Like I mean, amazing, But if all they do is block the field goal,

it's maybe not that great. What do you mean? They just start right there, landed somewhere around the Dallas fifteen, and Orlando Scandrick picked it up and hauled butt to the Washington two or wherever he wound up getting tackled for your for a cornerback for a thirty year old cornerback. Eight tackles, two tackles for loss, that block fuel goal recovery, and I'm gonna give him credit for a sack because he got into one tackle for loss and a sac oh is uh oh damn? Well yeah one one still better?

Okay one and one is still better than that. Still be a great sta. Yeah, he was outstanding, I thought. I asked him, I was like, was that the best game of your career? He obviously disagreed with me this game? Did he say, did he did he throw out a game? He did? I don't say. No, he had one ready in the chamber for me, But I don't. I think I disagree with him. I think this was maybe the best game he's ever played. Someone on the plane and in the locker room told me, just look at how

many times he's targeted. It was scantry both times. I said that. But his point is that he doesn't get targeted a whole lot. When he does, you know, he's there's no separation, and he makes play. One of my five plays that don't forget about is the first series of the game. After the fumble it's third and five, there's a crossing route over the middle to Grant makes the tackle immediately they killed kick a field goal. That no momentum. Really, it was kind of and you tweeted

that day it was a win. That does a win when you give up a fumble and they kick a field goal and it's only three nothing and they answered it just like that. So but I thought that was one of the key plays. I mean, he was, he really was. It was probably his best game. Yeah, and real quick, don't forget eighty six yards. Oh yeah, he didn't make it to the end zone. You know, he's

a cornerback that at the end of the drive. That was a drive you know, the Redskins had and they're moving the ball and he's chasing receivers and then to go in the run eighty six yards like that, I mean that, Yeah, he probably would like to have scored,

but oh he oh he wanted. That's so bad. Like that's literally like the thing that has the reason Orlando Scandrick is not like a two or three time pro bowler is because he doesn't have those types of plays on his resume where he gets to the end zone or has the long return and that time, I mean, you know, I think the one that the one that really stands out as he picked off Jay Cutler to seal the Bears game in twenty fourteen, I think, and the Bears were coming back and he caught he got

him in the end zone. But like other than that, it's just not a thing that happens for him very often. So like I know, he wanted to score right there so bad, but still, I mean, like I said earlier, Dak Prescott is not one for sweeping grand stage mints and juicy quotes, and he was like, yeah, that was the biggest player in the whole game and the turning point, like they did it all for us. They put us right there inside the ten yard line, swung the momentum

ten points swing. I mean, it's absolutely huge. You know, if you go back and watch the block, there's two hands right there. For the first one, of course, it's Crawford and you know he's right in line and the ball is going to probably go through the upright, so he blocks it. But Irving's hand is right behind it, and if you watch it, it goes kind of through Crawford into Irving like his pinky but once it hits Irving's hand, it goes sideways. Now I'm not saying the

ball would have gone in. I don't know how much you know, momentum it was gonna have to carry. But I think both of them affected the play. And you know, Irving's like, I got a little little piece of that too, and they Crawford they're gonna get. You don't get half a block. You know, Crawford got the block, but I thought Irving also had you know, Cowboys pr is trying

to give it to both of them. I don't know if that's going to hold up with the league, but don't be like when when the teams stats come out this week, don't be surprised if they both get credit for it. The one thing I will say, Nick, is if you said that, if you said that, it kind of did change the trajectory once Irving hit it and Dave, you're saying that the biggest part of that play was

the return. Maybe you don't get the return, but for Irving's yeah, hit on it as well, So then it makes that that block way more important than just Crawford's block. Maybe you don't get the field goal, but in this sense is maybe you don't get to return without irving right. And you know how we just talked about Scandrick being at the end of the drive and that's probably why

I didn't score, because he was tired. That also affected where he was lined up because a lot of times he will come off the edge and dive and miss it. If he doesn't if he's not a dog tired there, he's not standing back there to pick up the ball. But we had a good view of it and I thought, you know, just keep going to the right, you're gonna get twenty five yards. But when he cut left, you can kind of see that wall and you're like, oh, yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that too, by the way, because

I mean, he didn't block it. But you gotta give Scandrick some credit for that mixed missed extra point that the Redskins had as well. He can't. I mean, just like he always says, he came off the side. I think Orlando gave himself credit for it if nobody else did, so, uh, you know they what I think he hooked it left

or he hooked it. He hooked it. I mean he missed the next point and Scandrick was coming free on it so affected the kicker there on a play that obviously Byron Jones got that pick six, But I mean the difference between defending a full seven point lead verse six is huge. I mean, it was a fun plane ride for them on the way back, and Scandrick was up and down the aisle and talking to us, and you know, like a lot of players were and um, you know some of them weren't sitting down at the end.

They're gonna get in trouble buzz they were. You know when when that flight attend that got on and said you'll sit down, Like I was great. You know do you know like I think we're grown. I think you know who was the one person that was standing up? I mean Jason, No, it can't never mind Taco. Yeah, Brandon Carr and people play born Orlando Scandrey take your pick, right. We need to get some updated you get guys that that are here. Uh no, this is classic, Garrett, That's

why we have it. There there's Taco just standing up. I'm like, really, like, sit down, been here long enough to be like, okay, don't worry about it. But no, I mean maybe he's a stand up defensive end now because he was diving back there, you know, playing linebacker. That would have What would that have done? We argued that the other day about you know, if he just makes one play, we still if e one makes a diving interception like that, honestly, no, I mean I would

have been pumped in. It would have been a great play. But no, it's not like fans suddenly think he's awesome because he gets like a fluke interception dropping. They would have they would have been like, he's still haven't gotten sack? Like do what do what we've drafted you to do? Yeah, but you know, be an athlete and make a play, and that would would have helped. It definitely would have helped. Don't all right, let's let's do talk a little bit

though about special teams. I thought special teams yesterday was again difference makers. We talked we kind of lumped it into defense, but really it's the special teams that made the block that got the return, and quite frankly, Mike Nugent played I thought as well as good of a game as you can expect from a guy who's coming

in who was on the street. I think I heard I think Taylor was telling me last week he was on last Sunday, he was with his daughter at the zoo, And this week he's at an NFL game and torrential downpours and he's being expected to kick forty nine yard field goals. Only that last team that worked him out before the Cowboys with the Redskins. Yeah, it's awesome. I love the way that type of stuff works out. And the I mean, yeah, you know, obviously, like you signed

this guy on Tuesday. Of course he's going to come in and have to kick five field goals in the trenial downpour. Of course, of course the Cowboys aren't gonna win twenty eight to you know, seventeen and all he has to worry about his extra points. Like that's just not the way, although that might have been a little tougher for him, knowing how last year win. Maybe hey he was three for three. He was three for three year, right, But it's just like I swear, that's just the way

the NFL works. Is like when you get signed on Tuesday, you have to you know, the ball finds you. I guess I don't know, but I thought he was awesome, especially since his first his first kick was a miss from from was a forty nine from a forgivable distance for sure, but you're still like, oh, okay, Dan, where are you okay? So in the press box, I looked over him like Robin Dave. I was like, you think he makes this? And both of them no, no, And I don't know. I don't know if you wait in

but I know. I said he's gonna hook it to the left, and Mickey was like, he's gonna hook it to the left. So nobody there there was no like confidence there that he was gonna make that in which he actually he was good in pregame. He hit like he hit seven of eight going out and they said he hit a fifty three yarder. He hit fifty eight yarder. He hit through thirty one, thirty four, thirty seven, forty one four, He missed from forty eight, re kicked it and made it hit a fifty three. I think he

missed a couple from fifty eight. Oh yeah, yeah he did. He didn't miss that thing. He was good in pregame, but I just thinking he had the leg part. But what Mickey was saying was that he tends to to hook left, and so whenever he's on the left, hash that tends to be a problem for him because he already hooks left. So that's what Mickey said. Did Mickey go watch like cut ups and tell you that's what

That's what Mickey was saying there. He's either making that up or somebody maybe maybe somebody told him that, But like if he went home, I hope that rich Bisaccia told him that, because if he went home on like Friday, I was just watching cut ups off Mike Nugent went the Bengals Like that's too much. You don't need to

do that, man, Hey, he's doing his job. That's you know, there's doing your job, and then there's having Like I'm sure there's been some moments where you knew something, something kind of was in the back of your brain about a particular player and you're like, I'm gonna do the research to figure this out. Yeah, and so you spent countless number of hours doing that just to figure it out. Yeah. Usually it's for like Dak or somebody quarterback, not the

kicker who's gonna be here for three weeks. Yeah, but he also scored twelve points or no more than that. He had with fourteen points. Um, you know, last two weeks, you've talked about three. You said three turnovers but from the defense, but really it's been two from the defense and one from special teams in each of the last two.

I mean, Keith Smith goes down on the kickoff and forces a fumble, it leads to a field goal of the week before the game just you know changed early when Cavan Frasier knocked the ball out and no yes and Xavier Woods picked it up. So special teams has has played a big part there. I was, I was wondering, I know, he missed the field goal and on a Dave you do the grades for our flashback, and I was like, man, I really hope that that's an a

for a special team. Yeah no, I'm well, and you know, to be perfectly fair, I mean, I don't, I don't know. I guess I'm I'm gonna chalk it up to the rain for Ryan Swa because he that was a weird day for him. I don't know if I call it, you know, and I know what you I assume what you're talking about is when he need he knelt yet he let one bounce from the thirty to the ten. He like, just in general, it was not I thought

a very good night for him. I honestly think that in that situation, I wasn't able to see the play fully because we were on our way down to the field. Um, but I didn't even see the neil. I just yeah, it was it was like the third or fourth quarter. They're about to get the ball on like the thirty three, and he let it bounce and it went down to the nine and completely maybe it was right before the half.

I don't know. My thought was, I didn't know, like I didn't know what return unit was on the field. Was it Were they expecting an onside kick? And if they if they were expecting an onside kick, that means he had no blockers. And in that kind of weather, my thought is, yes, feel the ball so it doesn't go any farther and just go down, just take a knee. That's fine, We'll take the ball at that point. To me, that's the right decision, right. Did you see that? Though?

The reaction of his teammates and the coaches, I mean nope, nobody understood what that was about. And then go back and listen to it. Troy Aikman was like, what is going on there? I mean like, and I was watching it and I was just like, what are you doing? Like, I get it. You know, you don't think that Whitton and Hannah are gonna be, you know, blocking for you. But I mean I think you're down. I mean you're up six, You're you're gonna be starting at your own,

what fifteen yard line? But with no blocker? Do you want him really running and risking the chance that two guys hit him, ball comes loose. You're only only up by six, Yeah, that could be a game changing type scenario. I'd much rather just say, take the ball when you get it, and let's see if nothing else, take some time off the clock. Right Rears the guy that has me pretty upset right now, very upset. Oh yeah you

know that one, right, Yeah, I get it. Okay, yes, all right, But the point is he, honestly, for a guy that's as cocky as he is, he is pretty cocky. And when you see when you're like that, you better live up to it and have a reason to back up your cockiness. Right. Well, with that being said, the fact that how he played special teams, it upsets me when he's playing offense and you see him in motion and you see him so active and running around the field,

blah blah blah. And then when he got when he has the chance to have the ball in his hand, he doesn't do anything. He doesn't apply that same kind of effort as to when he doesn't even have the ball in his hands. But are we confusing effort with results? Like it's one thing to say when he gets the ball in his hands, he doesn't end up making any plays. I don't know if i'd call it effort though, right I would. Well, I don't like to question guys effort levels.

I mean, this is the NFL. If you don't, if you're not. I just feel like he loses his confidence when he has the ball in his hands. He doesn't react the same way. Obviously, and again that's not me playing in there. I'm sure it's a whole different feel and obviously no idea what it's like. But from what I've seen so far is it just seems like, okay, when he gets the opportunity to have the ball in

his hands, he doesn't actually do anything. When when he was when he fumbled against the Rams a few weeks ago, changed that whole game. He comes back and says, you know that's not going to change me I'm still gonna do what I do and all that. But he did. But I think to your point, he didn't really play like that yesterday. Now was if the rain was a factor, maybe so, But there was times when it's like, you know, catch the ball, and he didn't because he'd rather he

wasn't confident that he could catch it. And you know, we'll see if that happens again. If it happens when it's a bright sunny day in San Francisco, then we have an issue problem. Yeah, but he's probably getting yelled out in his head about don't don't make a mistake here, and he's playing like that. But you know, I think,

and I think this is part of the issue. When you get somebody that everybody's talking about on draft day, um, then people create these expectations in their minds of what he's going to be immediately, and looking at the way the rookies played last year, you think, oh, well, this guy's going to contribute immediately. That doesn't mean he's a bad player, because he's right now not making plays and

I wouldn't question his effort. I just think right now, for whatever reason, in return game, he hasn't been able to really show you much as far as his abilities to make plays, Now, maybe that means he can't do it. Maybe it means he's just gonna take a little while for him to develop into playing in the NFL and being able to really make those yea. And I think the cockiness has a factor in it, at least for me. I'm just like, Okay, if you're playing like this, quit

being cocky. Come on, learn from Zeke a little bit. Zeke has, you know, calm down a little. I'm saying down, and here's here's the thing. And I think I think you're right. You know, you draft a guy in the first four rounds to be you know, you talk about him like replacing Dunbar and all this stuff, and the expectations get pushed up. I'm not asking you to make plays. I don't judge him that way. I really don't. I don't. I'm not worried by you know, I don't think he's

a bust. I'm not worried by the type of impact he's making. I do expect you to catch the punt and save the offense twenty five yards of fuel position on a rainy day when you know it's hard to move the ball. I'm not asking you to break it for a touchdown. I'm just asking you to catch it. That's really all I want. And it wasn't happening for him. Yes, it was just like I said, I've never done that before.

I'm sure the rain plays a factor. I get all that, but just there he had two or three decisions where I was just like, I've never seen somebody do that. What's going on? At about four in the morning, I'm still trying to think about going to sleep, and I thought about that play and I thought I should get up, go back to my computer, change my five point five plays story because I left one out and I felt really bad for it. But the play where the penalty

that changed that. When the ball was rolled out he didn't catch it. It rolls down to like the thirteen yard line, and then there's a penalty. They make him rekick and they get the ball. It's thirty yards a field position. They go down and get a field goal. It was really upset that I didn't put that in the five place. You and Nicky both just need to go to bed. I feel like like I went I got home and went straight to bed, and your bed

about two I watched the whole game again. No, oh, come on, no, come in and do that on Monday with broad est, Like that's what I do. That's the difference though, I mean, that's just I don't come in earlier. I get to do it at night, or I got here at nine twenty six. I mean it's all the same. Yeah, and you have stats and I don't. But I watched the game the last thing, I mean, the last thing I want to do. Yeah, I got in bed at about two and I didn't want to think about football

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unbelievable photos of childhood stars grown up. To learn more, visit Better Money habits dot com. Back to the break final segment of the great we're talking about the Cowboys big win versus the Washington Redskins. They moved four and three on the season. Right now, The interesting part is, although they've played well these last two weeks, Cowboys still are not as of this week, still are not in the top six teams in the NFC. They still got a little ways to go, just one game out from

from those wildcard spots. Two wildcard teams with better records right now, wild cards right now, or whoever's in the second in the West, And yes, I looked it up. Last night's probably the Panther was the South. Yeah, I think it was Panthers the North. No, Green Bay second in North, they're four and three, same as the cow would be the Panthers. And whoever's second in the West train right, And so the Cowboys one game out of the out of that part of out of the wildcart

wildcard teams at this point. But the good part is that the season so much in front of them. All these teams that are right there in that mixture are all kind of on the Cowboys schedule going down straight. You got Atlanta, You've got Seattle, UM, They've got obviously the division games left, you got two games against Philly. They got enough games that they can that they can ser certainly put themselves right in position to maybe even

win the division. They're not out of this thing yet with almost half of the season, don't well, I mean, you know this isn't college football where you need style points. I mean, they've won four games. I don't believe any of the four or against the team with a winning record, but you know, nope, Wow, But you have a chance to change that because I have a good film. The Chiefs will have a winning record when they come to town,

uh this week. So you know, Denver tonight, right, And you know, it doesn't matter you play who you play. And sometimes I've always thought that that's kind of a stupid stat especially early on, because you know, if it wasn't for you beating them, they might have a winning record. I mean, you're contributing to that. So um. But I what my point to that is is that do we think this team is really good? Well we'll see. I mean they've lost to your team, the Rams, who Rams

now are looking pretty good. They're like you said, they get Philly twice these next three games. I mean, this probably the toughest stretch that anybody has. Chiefs at home at Atlanta, Eagle at home. I mean, it's good luck, quick, good teams. Quick note for all the woe is Me type of Cowboy fans. This will be the second week in a row that Dallas gets an opponent on short rest. Redskins and Chiefs both played Monday night the week before they played the Cowboys. So you know, I don't think

the league's out to screw you. I said that Robs happened last night. Rob said, do you think the whole Chief's offensive lineing is gonna get hurt? Yeah? I doubt it. It ain't just about risk, it's about injuries. To me, that that, to me, was a story of that game that in the rain was that was the storyline. But they played a division team, you know, on the road, and the Eagles Redskins. I mean that's a rivalry as well. And you know what, the Chiefs are the same thing.

They're gonna go up and there at home. But they faced Denver and you know, I'm sure that that's probably a real physical game as well. So is the Redskins went into the Eagles game with injuries on the offensive line. The guys that were playing went into the game hurt and then got hurt again. So it was like they

just had everything just went wrong for them. And I don't know if you expect the same thing out of Kansas City, but it is one of those things where a short week, short week, to me, is way more about recuperation and injuries than it is about just being tired. Oh yes, I think it's it's it can you turn your body around when you got when you're nicked up and those kinds of things on the short I actually give the Redskins some credit for what they did. I mean,

they were functional. I mean, they had the ball, they had a chance to go drive and win the game, and they you know, they had guys planned for them that were signed early or late in the week. I mean, so Bill Callahan who was here obviously with the Cowboys, and he did a really nice job with that old line and yeah to I mean to Derek's point. Before

before the rain really started, it got sloppy. You know, people were blowing me up like we can't get pressure on these guys they signed three days ago, like DeMarcus Lawrence can't beat Morgan Moses with no ankles, blah blah blah blah. I mean yeah, so, I mean I don't know that the Cowboys would have lost that game, but I think it would have been much different king had

it stayed dryer. This defensive front, as I think probably most defensive fronts in the league are, unless they're just exceptional, is they play really well and they can get those those big moments when they know what the other team is doing, When you force the other team into situations where they have to throw the ball, then you can just really go get the quarterback and you don't have

to worry about pass run. There were some moments in that game last night, Like I said early in the game, there were some moments there where you were wondering how good this defense was gonna be able to be even against the banged up offensive line, really against a second team offensive line, because there were moments when Kirk Cousins had a lot of time. There were moments when Chris Chris Thompson had some nice runs like you know that Nick when when when Rob Kelly went out for a second,

I was like, well that didn't really matter. I kind of won him back in because I think I want him running versus Chris Thompson. But Chris Thompson had some nice runs even against you know, running up the middle. So I just think the weather played a huge factor in that game. I don't know if we would have seen the same outcome if it wouldn't have been for

the weather. I love the way that this game turned, like when the Cowboys really get control of a game, the way they want to double digit lead a lot of runs. It's funny the way it turns because I'm like, when you said Chris Thompson, I was like, oh, yeah,

did he do anything? Eight catches, seventy six yards, twenty rushing yard, Like, yeah, it's a moment to one hundred all purpose yards of a long run of sixteen and a long catch of twenty six, Like, he definitely had some moments, but after about halftime, it just didn't seem like it mattered because their offense. I think because of

the rain and the way their offense runs. When they when their passing game became when it became when the weather became something that made passing prohibitive, then it changed the whole complexion of the game for them. And I think you had it not happened like that, I'm not saying the Cowboys couldn't have won the game. I think it would have been a much different style of game, though, I think there would have been a ton of scoring

both ways. It probably would have been a lot like that Sunday night football game last night between the Texans. That was the afternoon game between the Texans and the where you got it, going back and forth. Whoever has the ball last wins, right, you know, ironically, like several times throughout our game yesterday, I was like, man, I I was watching that. I know that game was crazy, and then you get the good baseball game last night. This is sports I'm projecting, like so stupidly far into

the futures. I mean, Cowboys are not a lock to make the playoffs by any stretch of the imagination whatsoever. But if they do, I would guess it's as a wild card. And you know, that's really encouraging that you're built to play that type of football, like winning winning a game like this, I mean, if you've got to

go to Seattle or somewhere cold or miserable in January. Although, like now, what I'm thinking about it, most of the teams in the playoff picture play indoors or in nicer climates, but still, I mean it's I mean, that's the type of football that travels, and that's nice to know if this is billy even like yeah, as a city that has inclement Billy Charlotte, Seattle, LA. Probably not so much. Whatever, but you can take that with you if you do

have to play a road playoff game. Yep, let's get to some questions, you guys, give us a call two one four eight seven two twenty one h two or hit us on Twitter at Cowboys Break. Let's start first with a question from Twitter. Well, I think had the Cowboys lost this game, we would probably be talking about all the penalties they had. So what are y'all's concerned in regards to this, especially with the players such as

Tyron Smith. Yeah, I mean Tyron Smith had three penalties, two holdings and in a false start and at least one of them I thought was bogus. But go ahead, Yeah I thought a touchdown, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought it was very kind of needed that touchdown to pancake ish, like I thought he was kind of smashing the guy. But anyways, it's uncharacteristic at a him, and you know that That's where I think maybe we need to just see if we chalk that up to the weather as well.

You know, it's hard to get your you know, hands on guys that to block everybody's you know that Jersey's a wet hands wet you know, maybe it just leads to a little bit more of those holding penalties. So we'll see. Tyren Smith's resume speaks for itself. And so I don't know if I should we should sit here and say we should be concerned about it. Well, what about the other guys? Well, well this is the this is a conversation we have in the press box all

the time. Jason Witten is good for a penalty of some sort just about every game. I mean, one way or that. He had a holding yesterday. Sometimes it's a false start, whatever, You let those things go because the resume far exceeds you know, the infraction, and that that goes for Tyrn Smith. I mean, that's that's the most Tyrannt Smith has been penalized in a game in the five years I've been covering this team. And it was in a monsoon against a team with good pass rushers

Preston Smith and Ryan Kerrigan. So not a great day for him by any stretch. But I'm not worried about it. Lyle Collins probably a little more concerning, um, you know, I think I even said leading into that game, you know, if you can handle Von Miller and those type of guys as well as Lyle has, then you know, you'd think you can handle Ryan Kerrigan. Ryan Karragan whooped him up a little bit, especially in the early going when

the game was closer. So you know, not not great, but you got out of it and you ran for one hundred and sixty nine yards. I mean, you know, if you watch the tape and try to improve, if you took the numbers off and then numbers and names off of the guys and just kind of evaluated this this offensive line for the last I don't know, three or four weeks since it's been, since it's been this lineup, I mean, I would think that Tyran still has probably been your best guy. I mean, he he locks it down.

He didn't get beat much. And if it's not if not Zack Martin, but Cooper is up there. Especially yesterday, I thought Jonathan Cooper he had a holding too though, just yeah he did, he did, he had a holding. But I mean when you when you watch him play and watches that touchdown run, I mean he he is the best guy on the line on that touchdown run where it was just wide open. He just mauls his guy and he is playing like the like the first

round pick. I mean, he's starting to do that. And I think it's kind of what we talked about before. I mean, I guess you get surrounded by greatness. You know. Eric's like a proud dad over here, like yeah, just

like he is. No, no, no, Honestly, I think we were talking about it on the show, even back to training camp of man, what would it look like if you could get this guy to play up to the potential of where he was drafted and maybe getting him around other guys who would drafted in the similar timeframe

and similar picks. Maybe that does it. Maybe that gets and then if you can get there, now you've really hit I mean you've hit on that on that position, and you've hit on a position and where you think you can kind of sustain it a little bit because hey, I mean it's not that expensive to have him here, you know, and give what we talked about free agency and how this you know, the actual you know, last two years that hasn't been good really and just veteran

free agency, but the force site to say, you know what let's get Cooper here. Let's see if if maybe next year, because they did that last year, they kept him, they resigned him. They thought, well, let's give him a chance to let him be here all offseason. And it's paying off, just like what they did when they took a six seven defensive end off the Chiefs practice squad, you know. And and he's David Irvy so which, by

the way, that just reminded me. It's this will be a really good week to have a feature on him if he's playing the Chiefs really yeah, good idea. His college team's playing pretty well too. I was staying, he said, he told me before he put on whatever he was wearing. What was that? That's Chester, Chester Chester, He's named it. What is it? The Fox? The Fox? Okay, I just he like I'm talking to him in the locker room, and had a lion on his back. Yeah, as as

a lion backpack. David's got Chester the Fox. What is Dez wearing on his head on the Yeah, he's got the the George Costanza hat. Yeah, it's anyways, all kinds of animals, and we're talking about going to the zoo. Nugent probably thought he was back there seeing Irving, but Irving said it was biggle smile. He's like, this is a good weekend for me. He's like, my team beat TCU and we won the game, so this was a really big weekend. He's like, just he's the best life.

Is such a friendly, just unassuming dude who has to be good at terrorizing quarterbacks and would never do that in his normal life. Like he doesn't seem like he has the personality to terrorize anybody at all. But yeah, well you might get to know Mass this week. Might got to know Mass about him. Hey, by the way, you know, just to mention, you mentioned that, But I

don't know if how many people have saw that. Last week he put out a brand new show that a Ambers and Amber and Rob are hosting called No Mass, with the idea being that it's kind of an opportunity for you guys to get to know players a little closer. And uh, and I thought, it's a really good show. It's a fun show. Tell people what it's about, just so they have an idea and they can go check

it out. It's on the website right now. What's it about. Well, it's basically kind of like a trivia game where you get to guess what the player's answer is. So so far we've been having a player as a guest on the studio in the studio and they try to guess what their teammate teammate answers are. Now we have this one coming up that might be Irvin again and against Rob playing guessing what the Marcus Lawrence is saying. And

that one turned out pretty funny, pretty hilarious. I was saying, let me just change it, and it's not because it's our show, in my show or whatever. It's hilarious. It was very It was kind of crappy. Actually, you guys will have to watch it. Yeah, it was good, but just to give you guys a clearer picture even than that, it's basically, you ask a player or a question and then you stop it stop the video of him get before he can give an answer, and you ask the

two contestants what do you think his answer was? You give him multiple choice and then they say, I think it was this. In that first episode, one of the funniest moments was asking about Jalen Smith and what he One of the things that people wouldn't know about him, I think was the question and I just will say door the door the Explorer was included in his answer, and it was pretty funny. So it's that kind of stuff, really cool concept. You guys are doing a really good job.

Rob had no chance trying to go up against Rod Smith trying to guess the answers of Jalen. Yeah, you know, he's like, literally, I've seen this in his house, Like I know that's yeah, yeah, Rob's not gonna get that. All right, guys, appreciate ahead. I was just gonna say, I mean, I'm pretty pleased with how it's turning out just because of how open these players have been so far and just finding out some of the things that you would never think or expect from them. So check

it out and hope you guys enjoy it. It's called No Moss. That's k n o W as in no Get to Know Moss. Check that out on the website. We'll be back tomorrow nine thirty a ntil then for Nick Even, David Hellman, Amber Garcia. I'm Dereky and this has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and Dallas Cowboys Football Club