Cowboys Break: Scouting The Redskins Defense

of The Break. I am Derek Eagleton, and we are alive from s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We're gonna talk some Cowboys football today, as we do every day. Today, we're talking about the Washington Redskins defense versus the Cowboys offense. I'm sure Dave will have a great scauting report for us. I'm sure Amber and Nick are gonna tell you guys some things that we should be concerned about with regards

to this Washington Redskins defense. And I'll just steer the ship here and just like these guys shine as I do every day. How's everybody this morning? Lovely? So great? Derek, I love awesome. That was awesome I'm freaking great good. I love that. Thank you, cool brisk energy, breeze in the air. Got to go up to not Washington but Baltimore for a football game. Yeah, it's gonna be cold tomorrow though. LSU can't lose this weekend because they're on a buy Life is good. Oh y'all want to buy two.

We want to buy two. So that's good. So I love those weekends. Life's is good, Nick, I'm fine. S Throwback Thursday. You know what today's strowback Thursday is what it's gonna be on the site. The nineteen ninety nine

game between the Redskins and the Cowboys. It was my very first game to be an employee with the team, and uh, down twenty one in the fourth quarter, I thought, you know, this is this kind of sucks actually, but then Emmett Michael Troy rockets smile brought him back for the longest or the best comeback in Cowboys just play action pass. I remember the rocket pass. But yeah, yeah, come, I can watch the throwback Thursday when it goes on the site maybe in the next hour or so. Good one.

Yeah it was, it was the best one. I thought, you know what if all games are like this, it'll be awesome. So they won the first road game. They went one and seven on the road that year. That was that was the win. So good one. I don't want to jinx myself or the team here, but the Cowboys are six and two against Washington since I started working here. Best record against the division foe. What was what was there? It seemed like that Cowboys had gotten

into record territory there in the early two thousands. It was about number of wins that they had in a row. It was about thirteen in a row. Was that a record? I don't know what the record is. I mean maybe, but I know it all. It ended in two thousand and two on Emmett's last game with the team, Campo's last game as the coach and six guys miss curfew. Then before like wasn't didn't go well well, you kind of could predict that was going to be the outcome.

Carcels had already been rumored like this is not just rumored like it was pretty much we do good games. Yeah, one thing about Cowboys Redskins, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter about records. Now, this one's a good one. They're both three and three. But over the years we've seen the bad Redskin teams. And two thousand or ninety five, when the Cowboys won the Super Bowl, they got swept

by the four and twelve Redskins. And when the Cowboys were one and fifteen, of course they beat the Redskins. So this game is always a good one, doesn't matter what the records are. Amber, how are you this morning? Moivia and Derek fel Lavide? Is that life? Living life? Happy about life? Yeah? Context context clothes means happy. And I've been watching Narcos, so I've been getting better at kind of picking up them. How great is the intro song on that show? It is great. The whole show.

The whole show is really good. It's really great. It became one of my favorites in a matter of the first season, and that's on seasons this season three. That did they just did. Yes, that's why Orlando keeps telling me Scandrick every time he sees me. He's like, Amber, You're gonna be on Narcos, You're gonna be on Narcos. I'm like, just stop, just because I speak Spanish. Yeah, And then he got into a very weird conversation because

which conversation. Shocking, you'll have this not weird shocking, well surprisingly kind of started by me and it just turned into a very awkward, uncomfortable conversation. Inappropriate I could just imagine, right, yeah, yeah, but it was my fault. You let him down the path and then was like, oh, what did I do? Whatever? I thought he was going a certain way with it, so I got a little defensive and he wasn't talking

about a specific thing and I thought he was. So anyways, it was just a weird interaction there, and I want to keep it very Yeah, I don't want to. I don't want to go into detail because I really don't want to have that conversation on there. All right, let's go ahead and talk some football. Let's talk about injuries as we do when we get started here. There were four players from the Cowboys that did not practice yesterday, Cheeto, Dan Bailey, Tyren Smith, Kyle Wilbur. All of those except

for Kyle Wilbur, were kind of predicted. They were predictable. They've even either been injured or are injured currently. Kyle Wilber, though, the knee injury, how serious is this? Is this something that could threaten him playing? This week or is this just a situation where again it's precautionary. I think it's probably a little bit of both. He's got he's got a pretty good limp on him. I've seen him a couple of days now this week. I'm guessing he did

it during the game. It's his I think it's his left knee. Hard for me to say, I'm I lean more toward like this is probably something he can gear up for though, Like I'm not ruling him out yet, but as usual, we'll see what practice looks like the next two days. But he's got a pretty good hitch in his giddy up just moving around the facility right now,

that's for sure. I Mean, I think we say this every week, but when you're talking about injuries, you got to see what happens on, you know, Thursday, because if they've missed more than one day of practice, then I think it's significant. If they're just trying to give them some rest to heal up, then that's one thing. But but if he goes into this day and doesn't practice or is limited, then I think you're going to start looking at linebacker. Continues to be a situation for them

because Justine Durant limited with his ankle. It's an ankle, right, yes, no, it's a growing right. Oh, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, justin Durant's limited. Kyle did not practice, And so you know, obviously Hitchins and Lee are fine, but you know, just linebacker has been an injury concern for them all year long. If you're going to have injured linebackers, you'd prefer it be anybody but Lee and Hitchens. I mean, yes, seeing how that happens, those two guys obviously, and that's the

guys that are the front line guys. Those guys you want healthy, but you know, I mean, you typically need like six or seven, and it seems like they've never had more than about four healthy at any given point this year. So that's something to keep an eye on, all right, the it doesn't really seem like there's anything

else really that's new Cheeto at this point. Is there anything we're hearing about him that suggested maybe this could be the week where he at least not even not even talking about plays, but at least maybe works back into practice a little bit. I don't like, you know, it's not a big deal when Tyron Smith is a d NPR. I mean, you'd prefer he'd be healthy, but you're just like, whatever, he'll get ready. But this guy's a rookie. He hasn't really played significant snaps since Denver.

Like I know, he gave it a go against Green Bay, but it didn't didn't last very long. So I mean, you know, he's not he's not in that class of player that I think of as like, well, he didn't practice Wednesday, but he'll get it going like if he was if he sat out completely yesterday, which he did. That leads me to believe that this is another week where you probably shouldn't expect to see him. I mean, the Cowboys have played what ten games since the preseason? Oh,

how many games? Has he finished? Two? I feel like he played the first game, he finished the Giants game. And what about in the preseason Hall of Fame I thought he got hurt. No, he finished the Hall of Fame game, and he got hurt in the Rams game. Yeah, and then Urton he didn't play the Rams game. Whatever. But so he's finished two two games him, I mean, and I think I'm sure that the training staff's just scratching their head on this one, Like you know, how

do you handle this one? Because he is a young guy and he's a rookie and he's trying to figure out, all right, what how do we manage this? And it's just gone back and forth, and I mean, I'm sure everything they do is very cautious, but I just feel like almost getting close to just shutting him down. But like like you keep saying, if he can just practice, it'll mean you don't need the roster spot right now,

He's not. He's not the number one priority. I think if you needed a roster spot, I think you could go killing Moore first, probably go a couple other spots before you need cheat. Yeah, I don't think it's hurting the team to be carrying him like this. It's just obviously frustrating. But your second, you know, top number sixty draft back. But if he keeps, if this keeps happening and you want to put Rico on the roster, I could see where that they could, which I believe you

can do after this game. After this game, he could move up. Has he started practicing yet, No, so it's not likely they move him up this week. I don't count on it, but it is possible. But he's just I mean, he's working out with the strength staff. He's doing very basic stuff. He hasn't put on a uniform explaining me the rules there. Do you have to make a decision on him at a certain time or is it just he is eligible for a decision and you can ride that till. They could wait until week fifteen

and say now we want to make him active. He's injured injured reserve is you could just be on it. I r all, there's two guys that you can bring back after eight weeks. So what I'm saying when you as far as the eight weeks, do you have to bring them back at eight or you can just bring anytime after eight weeks? I think you can just bring him back. I believe this. Um didn't they do this with Chaz Green? Maybe that was pop. I don't know,

no one. When you make different When you make that decision, it activates a three week practice window where he can practice before you have to decide if you want to put him on the roster at all. But there's no no, they don't have to do that next week. They can they can wait, they can wait. It doesn't they're not forced to make a decision next week. They can wait and at whatever point they choose to, if they choose to make a decision, then they can do that. Absolutely,

got it. Okay, they don't, they have time, they don't have to do anything, right, Yeah, but if they wanted to, they can do it at any point after he served basically eight games of being on injured reserve. We got it. See w Yeah, Yeah, it took me a second. Okay, all right, let's get to um let's get to the Redskins. Dave, are you ready with a scout of your port on these Redskins? Um? Yeah, I can do what I can. Let's talk about the Red Skin's defense. Tell me, tell

me about this defense. Some of the players that are names that we should know and be prepared to watch this Sunday. You know what's funny is you would think that you're like super duper familiar with these guys because they're a division opponent. You play him twice a year, and to some degree that's true. I mean, you got a lot of you got a lot of familiar faces here. No, actually, I completely take that back. You really don't. That's my point.

I guess you got you got Ryan Kerrigan. Everybody should know him. He's good. He's you know, I think he's got sixty three career sacks for them. He's their first round pick. He's been there for five or six years. And then I mean there are guys that have been there for a couple of years. You know. Preston Smith is a guy that you should know. He's in his third year. He's there leading pass rush right now. He's got four and a half sacks. Big guy out of

Mississippi State. Mason Foster has been there for three years. Who am I forget? Ziggy Hood has McClain, well, Terrell McClain, you know, because he's a cowboy, but this is his first year, and I guess that's are you're talking about guys that have been with the Redskins that you've used to see play again. Yeah, like you know, like D'Angelo Hall is, like we've been playing this guy for years. There's not a lot of those guys out here though. I mean, all right, Josh Norman, he's in his second

year with the team. Um Bashad Brelan's been there for a little while. But you know, like I said, Preston Smith is relatively new. Stacy McGee and Ziggie Hood or relatively new faces. Um one of their defensive ends who's actually having a heck of a year's matt ianitis. I think I'm pronouncing that right. He's only in his second year. Ryan Anderson is a twenty seventeen draft pick from Alabama.

This year, Uh, same thing. Monte Nicholson actually has taken a starting safety job as a rookie fourth round pick. Um Kendall Fuller's your primary nickelback and he's in his second year. So, like, like I said, like you kind of get used to seeing these faces over and over again. But I'm watching the tape of the Redskins and I'm like, these guys don't look that familiar to me. So that's

my first impression. My second impression is, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but like when I think of a three to four, I think of like super athletic guys, even to the point of being like undersized, you know, like Von Miller. He's he's obviously he's amazing, but like you don't think of him as like this beefy guy, right pass rusher. The Redskins are beefy, Like Preston Smith

and Ryan Kerrigan are your outside linebackers. But I would wager that they might be bigger than any of the four three ends on this team, Like they're just big dudes. And then obviously, if you're gonna play a three four, you got a lot of beef in the interior line. Like I said, Unitis Ziggie Hood are your primary too, down lineman. Terrell mcclan gets in there as well. Tell me this, you talked about Karagan in him being a beef your guy, but I think I remember seeing this

more frequently than not. I didn't charge it, so I don't know about the numbers, but you did you get the impression that Kerrigan's a guy that has his hand on the ground more often than not, because it seems to me that that's the way even when they only have two down line and it seems like he has. It almost confused me to the point where I was like, is he playing defensive end or outside linebacker? Though like

these Kerrigan and Smith are both listed. I mean, like I said, it's a three four, but they basically are down defensive ends in my I mean, like they do do the stand up stuff, but they get down on the ground just as much as anybody that plays for this team. I think at least that's what I saw. Yeah, and then again, two names that I recommend you know are Zach Brown and Mason Foster well positions linebacker, interior linebackers. Um, they're you're leading tacklers again, Like this is just a

really physical and not at all undersized defense. I guess that's really what I came away with having watched them. DJ Sweringer is a really physical safety. I also think he's pretty bad at his job, Like he's just this last week he got abused. He's not great in coverage, like he's the quintessential I'm gonna lay this guy out. Oh wait, he's three steps behind me. Did you say Roy Williams? Sorry, yeah, yeah, there's just something to that. Just just to further approve my I didn't have this

written down, but I just looked it up. Preston Smith Dak Prescott's teammate out of Mississippi State, UM arguably their best defender in my opinion. He's six six, two seventy like, but he's an out outside linebacker. Yeah, and that is a huge linebacker. He's an outside linebacker. He's a big guy. Um, so I see, you know, and I remember talking about this with the Rams too, Like they run a three four, but I regular regularly was seeing as many as four

and five guys down on the line of scrimmage. They play a lot of single high I think obviously when when Josh Norman is in there, they trust him to play a lot of man. But Shad Brelan also not to the extent as Norman. I think like he's the guy that you would think you can take advantage of if they are gonna play man, and then they bring

one of their safeties down. Kendall Fuller's out there a lot, So like like every three four is like a little bit of a different iteration of each other, And this one to me just looks bigger and physical, and it looks like I don't think about tweeners when I see this defense. I'm just like, these are big, physical guys and they just happen to play a three four. So

here's a question for you. You look at the statistics of this defense and the kind of middle of the pack in a lot of categories, but one thing that stood out was their points allowed per game. They're twenty six in the league, giving up twenty four point five points per game. I have them at twenty fifth. I wonder where, like we're looking at different Maybe I got it from Pro Football Focus. I think I got it from NFL. It doesn't matter either way. There's somewhere in

that range, given about twenty four points a game. That being said, what what have teams done? And I know specifically last week in Philadelphia they were able to score a lot of points. What do you think teams have done when they've been successful against this def what's the key to neutralizing this defense and being able to take

advantage of them? Well, it's fun like you. I mean, they're middle of the pack across the board, they're twelfth in yards per game, They're they're nineteenth against the past, which isn't great but isn't terrible. But I do think there's wins to be had against the secondary, especially you know, just the Cowboys luck that I would guess Josh Norman's going to be back for this game. I would bet,

but without him. And I mean you saw it against Philly, like I said Mac Hollins, I mean, Carson Wentz just dropped it over their whole defense for sixty eight yard touchdown. Chris Chris Clement, I think is Philly's running back again. Amazing play by Carson Wentz, but he just beat single coverage. So they're ninth against the run. And like I said, so they have about as big and as physical affront as I think you could expect someone to have. And

their two middle linebackers make all their tackles. I mean, Mason Zach Brown has sixty three through six games, so he's averaging ten game and Mason Foster's right behind him at fifty three. So they cleaned that type of stuff up. And honestly, um, if there's a way I think you can take advantage of them, it's probably chunk plays at least that's what I've seen. Have they played a good rushing team yet? And how did they fear in that kind of game Kansas City And I don't have that

the stats in front of me. Can you check that out for US Kansas City? How did they do it? I can't get in there rushing versus the yes, But what they lost? I mean they lost that game on like the final possession of the game. They were They're only lost of the year. Can't Oh no, no no, no, no, it's Philly. I'm sorry. What if I think about I

don't know what you're thinking. Go ahead. Yeah, they lost to Kansas City basically on the final possession and then the famous you know, Kansas City returned the fumbel Ruski for touchdown to cover the spread, like on the last play of the game. A lot of people were upset, But I mean that was a tightly contested game, and honestly, considering the way that the Chiefs offense was humming up to that point, they played pretty well. I watched some

of that last night, not the whole thing. Yeah, so yeah, I mean Hunt had one hundred and one yards they're given they're they're they're giving up ninety five. Smith had fifty six yards rushing, So so they as a team probably rushed with somewhere in the range of one hundred and seventy yards ian guess, yeah, which they're giving up. It classic NFL like it reminds me. And obviously you can stop the Cowboys. We've seen it happened. The Broncos did it very well. But they're giving up ninety five

yards a game, which is top ten. But I look at that and I'm tempted to think if you're allowing an average of a hundred, like the Cowboys will go over that average. Yeah, and if they had allowed one hundred and seventy two the Redskins, you would think the Cowboys should be able to run the ball right the Chiefs, I'm sorry, Chiefs, then you would think that I'm glad. I'm glad can't throw in Alex Smith's total because if there's one, I mean, he's not in. Alex Smith had

a touchdown too. Rushing touchdown, he's not. He's not twenty twelve era Colin Kaepernick. But Dak is running the ball better than ever and it is a noteworthy part of the offense every game over the last month. So he's got three rushing touchdowns in his last four games and one hundred and four yards over his last three. I think, so I would say you should expect to see that

and with a you know, not trying to. I think Ryan Kerrigan and Preston Smith are awesome, but like with a big, physical front like this, maybe you can take advantage of that with some misdirection type stuff. I mean, if you can get outside of that, if they crash down like they're not the type of guys that are going to run you down in the backfield on a misdirection. So all right, so here's gonna be. We're gonna take

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Now we're gonna get to Amber and Nick and they're gonna give us at least one thing that you noticed about this particular defense that stands out to you, or maybe even a concern that you might have specific to one thing about this defense, Am Let's start with you. Honestly, there's nothing that really worries me about their defense right now, aside from the fact, I mean you talked about the run defense. That would be the one area that stands

out to me. But even then, they're supposed to be ranked amongst the top ones in the NFL right now, but their stats don't prove so, or at least they

haven't really been doing that too well. They do tackle really good, and I'm just really interested to see how the Cowboys are going to be able to manage that, if their O line is going to be able to keep that job going, how well they did against the forty nine ers, if they're gonna be able to be in sync, do you open those right holes in spaces for k and Zeke being able to carry that away once again and have a great game. So that's that's honestly,

they do one thing. I'm just I'm not worried, but I'm interested to see how they're gonna go up against each other. All right, Nick, you know one thing that they are really bad at um is scoring at the end of half of the two minute defense, and so one that's one thing that I'm kind of wondering about what the Cowboys having an issue at kicker. Let's see how good the new gen is and how what his

range is like. But if you go back to the six games that they've played, they've given up fifty one points. That's the average is twenty four. They're they're they're the worst in the final two minutes of scoring. The Redskins defense. The Redskins defense, they gave up two scores to Philly this last game. They gave a field goal in the first game, they field goal in the Rams game, a field goal drive against KC but they missed the field goal and then the Niners scored on the last play

of the half there. So they're averaging fifty I mean there, given up fifty one points there. And in the two minute defense they're also the worst. So you wonder about that. You know that Dack's really good at two minutes, and you know Romo was really good at it two They've always have something going there. But with the kicking situation the way it is, you know, and they probably feel

comfortable with it. Real they wouldn't assign nu gym, but you wonder if they can take advantage of that with with you know what kind of range they need to get in for him. As we talked about yesterday, it seems like he's been even last year when he had the struggles at the extra point, he's been pretty consistent forty nine and less. That just does change things from

the standpoint of that long range field goal. So now you do need those couple extra yards to kind of get you down in the mid forties where I'd probably feel a little more comfortable in putting him out there. Where with Dan Bailey, if you get to fifty two fifty three, you're like, hey, let's give it a shot, and we feel pretty good that he's gonna make it. And at the end of the half, you know, your range is a little bit different because if you miss,

what happens, it's not that big a deal. Now, if the run defense is able to kind of stop the run the Cowboys running game a little bit and kind of Forrest Dad to throw the ball more, are you guys feeling very comfortable with the whole day connecting better

with the receivers right now? The big thing for I, I mean, if you think back to last year, this was the game and it was only week two, but like Dez sort of got on track in this game after he had similar struggles against the Giants where they targeted him like nine times for eight yards or something like that, and then he had one hundred yard day against mainly against Breylon, which is my point. I mean, they play a lot of man, but you can take

advantage of it to a degree. I think over the I mean, Dez has yet to have a one hundred yard game, but I think their their connection has been better over the last two or so games to the point where it's not something that worries me that much. I mean, when you look at Josh Norman, if he's healthy and ready to play, what they did to Oakland back in I think Week three that was domination right there. And Oakland's got a really good passing game with two

good receivers and they shut them down. So you know that they can do that. I don't. We talked about his his injury ribs. I don't. I have a hard time thinking he's gonna miss the game. But but you know, he was limited last week. I think it'll be he's limited this week. They haven't really practiced yet. We'll see. Well, they had seventeen guys on the injury report a lot. Now that that was an approximation. Yeah, they didn't practice, but if they did practice, that's what it would have been.

So seventeen guys. I have a hard time seeing him play, you think, I think just because if you're arguing with you again, no, no, no, no, no, I just say, I'm just thinking in the way like if you know, we know the whole drama with Dez and all that, I'm thinking, if you're not fully one hundred percent, are you really going to put yourself out there to go up against Dez and give the chance to maybe not

be able to perform at your highest level? And now you're you know, but the issue is it's it's ribs. It'd be one thing if his ankle or knee where he couldn't run, he can run, and so then it's a matter of probably it's more about pain tolerance, and you would think that if that's the situation, and if they can give him something that helps deal with the pain, then he probably feels like, I can still run, so

I can still cover. And that's the part where I think, if he can get out there and go even if he's gonna have to deal with some pain. He's like, I don't want to miss this opportunity to matter. Yeah I haven't. I have not, But I saw Tony Romo play a lot sooner. He really sucking. I've heard that too, chasing wide receiver. Okay, so let me ask you. Do you think he's gonna sit out because of broken ribs after three weeks. I'm not saying he will never, but

it's a possibility. I'm saying if he's not, he would not put himself out there and be embarrassed in front of death with this, with this matchup, there's something to be said for that. Yeah, they have a commercial to get yes, their hatred because Duke wants to play against Dez, because that's like they have that right. But but the point is is that if Dez tortures him because he really can't run and jump like he wants to do, you think anyone's gonna care other than him that he had?

No one cares about that. No. But also is you are people gonna say, yeah, you got you have broken riffs so you can't play? Huh you missed two others. I mean this was supposed to be like a four. I thought this was supposed to be the last game of his of the time that he would have to be out. I thought two to four weeks, yeah, and this was gonna be the fourth game supposedly, is it though? That's what at the time it happened. I remember because

I tweeted it. It was like the timetable. This was the back end of the timetable and he would be back the game after the counter hurt in Kansas City. I don't remember which game it was. He's missed two so they had to buy in there. Okay, So Jay Gruden says he should return to practice this week. They didn't practice yesterday, but he thinks he's gonna practice, and the question will be is he if he's gone, can I go back though I'm sorry, glad if he was

limited last weekend in practice this week he'll probably play. Okay. Can I go back to that original question that you had about the about the you know what how they kin? Yeah, connecting on those plays. I actually think one of the they've mentioned that they play a lot of man and if you watch that Philly game, one of the things that you notice is they are most of their big plays came on plays where there was pressure and then Wentz would escape the pressure and then he would throw

the ball down field. When you're playing man, it kind of leaves your cornerbacks in those kind of vulnerable situations because the play gets extended and it's hard to keep up with your man wants to play extends, And so if you look at it from that perspective, I think they're created some good opportunities for the Cowboys because Dad can allude pressure. We know that, We've seen that a lot.

Dak makes some of his best throws when he's on the run, and it gives the cornerbacks a little more time to be able to now break off their routes and may create some separation because they can just kind of get away from a defender who's just having a cover for too long. So I think when you look at it from that perspective, it could create actually some good opportunities for the Cowboys. They maybe they haven't been presented with as much to this point, but we'll see. Yeah,

I agree with I mean, well said Derek. I don't want me to argue with you. Sure, that's what you usually do. I guess I was just waiting out infecting something idiot. I hate that idea. I was going by not necessarily about the defenders. It was more, you know, being in sync with the receivers, and like Dave said, we have seen them getting better in the past couple of games. So I was just checking with you guys.

I will say I will say this. You know, we had a caller on Monday that was mad that Terrence didn't have a good or maybe it was a tweeter that was mad that Terrence didn't have a good game. They called in. I still don't care. But if the Redskins are taped capable of taking away days or limiting him, that's when that matters. I mean, you look at the stat sheet last week. Terrence zero catches on three targets and Cole Beasley had one catch for twenty four yards.

And again, that doesn't bother me at all because everything else was humming. But if everything else isn't clicking like that, then that's when you need those guys to be able to win their matchups. All right, we're gonna get some questions. Call us the numbers in two one four eight seven two twenty one O two. Again it is two one, four eight seven two twenty one oh two or hit us on Twitter at Cowboys Break. Let's start first with a question from Twitter on you took me out? You

caught me out of him? People are just still talking about things we are definitely not discussing right now. Oh yeah, just comments on Death and Norman, like what like, what's the what's the general telling. Do people think that he's actually going to play this weekend? Yeah? People, I think he will go up. I mean right now, from what I'm seeing is they think Norman is too prieful to be out of the game and I'll go in there and face Death us one on one, So that that's

gonna be interesting to see. But again, aside from from that, what would be your biggest matchup here, either either side of the ball, offense or defense? What would be your biggest matchup? Well, woman's back. Yeah, well, okay, we talked about him. But I still like the Byron Jones or um Heath going up against the tight ends. I think that that both Davis and Jordan Reid are playing really well and they don't have to be playing well Like that's a good matchup for anybody with a good pass

catching tight end. Just wait till Philly you know comes in with arts like that, that's going to be a problem. So that's kind of hurts. Yeah, So I think I think it'll be. I think the tight end is going to be the issue there for the Cowboys. They got to make sure to get that stopped. Well, here's one of all. It's not regarding this specific, but it is regarding Kellen Moore. Are the Cowboys planning to groom him as a coach or something or why else have they

not tried to cut him? Like? Why are they still keeping him around? There's only so many ways we can say this, and that's because they don't want to basically, Like I mean, like I'm I think we're all at the point where we think that that would not be a big deal, especially if you're willing to make Cooper rush your back up and actually have him be one play away, which he was against San Francisco. But I think the Cowboys like having that safety net for whatever reason.

Enough key people there trust that he's good for the quarterback room and he's capable of doing the job. And not very many people agree with them, and that doesn't really matter because they're the ones that make the decisions. So I don't know what else we can say about that, And I get that it's frustrating, but it is what it is. But that's the point, Like fans, it's not

that big a deal. He's not gonna see the feel and right now, I don't think it's messing with your fifty three, like I don't think there are guys that have been cut that well, probably he should have been cut instead of this goes sorry, Nick, go ahead. I was just saying, when you think about, like before paring down the roster like we do in training camp sometimes and you're sitting there and you're like, all right, I got the sheet, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go three quarterbacks. Okay,

I'm gonna go four tailbacks and a fullback. Okay, I'm on six receivers. How many tight ends of them? Three? I'm gonna go two kickers too. You're like, wait, wait a second here, like this this doesn't work. I got give what's what's going on? And it's not like it's really that bad. On the other end, it's just a little bit thinner at at defensive end or the defensive line. Right now, I guess you'd say a little bit thinner at offensive line, but nothing too bad that's hurting them.

It's said from the I get it from the outsider's perspective, because again, is he lighting the world on fire? No, but Demantre Moore gets into the game and has at least made an impact in a handful of situations. He had five tackles, he has a few hurries. We have discussed already that that move was probably more than just about football. But from the outsider's perspective, where you're just like, well, like Demontre Moore, like he tackled Carson Palmer that one time,

what's Kellen Moore done? Like, I get it, But like I said, it is what it is, you know, and I'm not going to try to like justify it the moment. I could do that, but I don't want to. You just sometimes you just have to say, well, nobody but those people actually gets to make the call, and that's what they want to do. The moment that they cut a player that I think they really want to keep and Kellen Moore is still on the fifty three, that's the moment when I think it becomes an issue. I

don't think it's been that yet. That's why I'm saying I don't know that it's a big deal yet. And again I get your point. And if you don't like, if you don't buy that there, if you believe that that was just a football decision with Demontre more than yes, you have absolutely every right to be saying that was a add move instead of Kelly Moore. I just don't happen to believe that, right, Okay, sample man says he has a crazy thought for you guys, Oh what a

crazy thought? Okay, sorry thou That's two completely different things. Do you guys think that desk could do some damage in the slot? What would be the positive versus negatives? He does play in the slot, so having him, well, I think he's Yeah, he's moved. I think he's moved around more this year than most other years. Um, which I mean, this is an interesting matchup for that to happen. And that's it's like the it's so cliche at this point, like,

well is Norman going to travel with him? And blah blah. I mean you could move him to try to get him better. I mean, he he makes good plays out of the slot. I don't. I don't really. I think it makes a difference if you're moving him to scheme him away from a better corner. But I would imagine that Norman would just go with him if it were to happen. But I think that's where the issue is, is that if you're just going to play regular defense and you put him in the slot, then you know,

they don't change what they do. But if Norman has to go in there, I'm not saying he's not comfortable in there, but but you know, it's slot is a tougher situation. So, um, I think you know, we've seen Dez really beat Norman in some plays. We've seen Norman gets the best of them. It's a really good health I don't know healthy, he's the right word. It's a good matchup. It's not healthy. I mean, yeah, there's nothing healthy about that relationship. No, it's it's not it's it's

healthy competition, but it's not a good relationship. Um. I think there's mutual respect there. I mean, there has to, um, But but I don't think. I don't think they hate each other the way that it's kind of nah. I think it's a part of the game. It's a part of the fun for them. Yeah, I think it's just two guys. He knows this. One of Deza's worst plays he's ever had was because of Josh Norman, and he

can never do that again. Like if there's an interception that's thrown and they're running into the end zone and he stops on the play because he wants to bark and get into Norman's face, that's unacceptable. And so he can't let Norman or any cornerback get him out of his game. And hopefully, you know, and if I'm Josh Norman and you know that, and you know that, you're going to be getting in his face because all it has to do is hit him and push them back

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All right? Diapers football, football, football, All right, Let's get into some questions. The numbers two one, four, eight seven two twenty one h two. You can also hit us on Twitter at Cowboys Break. Let's start with a call from Ken and Louisiana. Ken, what up, good morning? How are y'all doing great? Are you? I'm trying. Thanks for taking a call. I got a quick question on what the stave if y'all know what the status is on Landy Gregory and will he be brought back next year

or will he be cut? And I'll hang up with the y'all's answered, all right, Thanks for the call. Randy can was gonna make that drop up? Who are you? How are you there? It is Randy Gregory is actually eligible to apply for reinstatement to the NFL on November the sixth. I thought you say, now that, well that's eight that's a week from now. Yeah, that's the Monday after the Chiefs game. Um. Actually, Charles Robinson of Yahoo dot com wrote a whole update about this. You can

get a little more information about it if you want it. Um, it doesn't sound likely that he's gonna get reinstated, but really just I think the NFL has concerns about like his overall readiness and whether they're ready to pull the trigger on that end. Does anybody know what he's been doing during this time? Actually there's whispers. I mean, I haven't talked to him, I haven't seen him. He's not allowed at the facility. I was going to say even if he was reinstated on November six, he still isn't

allowed back at the facility until January. I don't know the dates playing. He's not playing for Reinstate. It doesn't mean you're able to come back and play no hestate. It just means he's spend he's suspended for a calendar year, which means January. Uh. Reinstatement just means once the suspension is served, like he can what's the word, work back into the structure of the team. Um. I don't know. I don't I'm not an expert on how all that works. But I don't get the feeling that he is going

to be granted reinstatement. We'll see um again, you know. All credit to Charles Robinson because he kind of he seems like he's checked in on that. It sounds like, uh, he got a job at least for a little while, and he's kind of trying to structure his life. What it doesn't say, um just it sounds like he's putting in an effort based on that, for whatever that's worth. Um so what no job, though, he's a big guy's kind of gonna stand out pretty much anywhere where he

has a job. People need people need jobs. Man, you absolutely do need a job. Here's I don't think he played for the Cowboys ever. It sounds like there are reasons to feel positive that maybe something good will come of this, but it's far too early for me to be like, oh yeah, like he's coming back, Like I would still bet against it. When's the last time he played a game? January of last year? January of two years?

Day game? He played it? How before that? So okay, I'm trying to get a full totality of like how long he's how much time he's played in his career. When was the last time he's playing regularly? I should he played like the last two or three games the last season, yep, okay before and fill it. And then he was out all year and writing his rookie year fifteen, So he'll play two games out of a possible thirty right for two years. So here's that's my point. This

is not to me. This is not about him being him getting to a point in his life, which I hope he gets to a point in his life where he's able to get past whatever these things are that's keeping him from football. The fact is, though, when you spend that much time away from football and not playing football. To me, it's hard to see scenarios where that turns out good for a player, Like it's it's rare, and

I can't think of one off rand. I'm sure somebody has done it, but it's rare when a guy's been out that long and away from football that long, that he comes back and he becomes a productive player in the NFL. But do you even want him back? Sure he would, yeah, I mean I wouldn't. I don't. I don't. I don't subscribe to that. Like, like, the big thing for me with Randy Gregory is I always got the impression that he was a good dude who his heart was in the right place, and he's got way too much.

He's got a variety of issues, and I mean that stems back that there's more to it than that, you know. I mean, he's got he's got problems that he's working through and I'm not you know, to some degree, it's like, this is your job. I deal with it. I get that.

But he's not a jerk, for lack of a better term, like he's he's a good dude and his heart's in the right player I don't hold this against him, and right now he's not costing the Cowboys any money or a roster spot, So there's no harm in seeing how this shakes out. And if he gets reinstated and you know it is clean and on the straight and narrow and everything, I don't have a problem with that at all. And at that point, if he burns you again, then his contracts up anyway, and then you can kind of

wash your hands of it. You know, it's gonna be really interesting, is if you know, there's been more and more talk here in the last year from I've heard Jerry talk about it. I've heard NBA commissioners talk about it, about the possibilities of taking marijuana off the band list

in both those sports, in football and in basketball. It will be very interesting if within the next two, three, four five years for the NFL and then you have the next CBA discussions, if it becomes a situation where marijuana is no longer on the band list and guys like him, guys like the receiver that was in Cleveland. You know, there's guys that who showed some promise, and I think Gordon obviously had a lot more skins on the wall up your time he played than then did

Randy Gregory. But if those guys are well beyond their their times when they could have played football, and then the thing that kept them front football is no longer a problem, that's gonna feel really tough for them. Yeah, you know, yeah, but it's easy to say that. But you can go back and also say, well, you know, it was it was marijuana that kept them out, you know, that was that was banned. You couldn't It wasn't Football

wasn't important enough to stop it. Matt might have been your vice there, but maybe it would be something else then, you know, maybe it's their personalities that that's like, okay, well then I got to do another thing. You know. Maybe there's just something that prevents them from wanting to play and wanting to be great. Maybe you know, you don't know that, man. Maybe I don't know that either. So um, I think it's easy to say, oh, man,

it's too bad Josh Gordon and Randy Gregory. That just change the law and now you're thirty years old and you probably can't play it. Man, that's bad. I don't know, because maybe they would never have done the things necessary to play. I mean, I kind of agree. I guess with Amber on that I don't think I would bring him back. I mean, if you bring him back, then just quit saying the stuff about the right kind of guy, because I don't think he is the right kind of guy.

If you can't get yourself able to play, and if you haven't, if you have an illness, you have an illness. But that doesn't mean you're the right type. However, if he gets himself play, if he gets himself corrected, if he if he figures out this whole thing, then why

can't he become the right kind of guy? I think that's I think that's a little bit and I don't want to say judgmental, because yes, he hasn't done the right things to this point, but if he does work himself back to that point and he I mean that to me, is the right kind of guy. If you've had a problem, you've had a continuous problem, and somehow you figure out a way to rectify that problem, that's

the kind of guy you want. You want a guy that can identify his own issue and say, hey, I gotta do something different and eventually make that change to do something. Yeah, but the thing about it is you watch the baseball game last night. You don't get six strikes before you get three and then you're out. I mean that's like, this is one of those things where to be suspended for a year means I believe you have to fail six drug tests, right, But he doesn't.

And I'm not saying that he deserves this opportunity. I'm saying if you happen to give it to him, like David saying, it doesn't cost you anything, you want to take a look and it turns out that he actually has some skill and can play, why not? You know? And here the other thing is, again he's a sunk cost at this point, you know, like you're not looking at him as the cornerstone guy that you drafted him

to be. At this point, it's just gravy. Like I said, he's not hurting you to have right now, and if you want to bring him back, it's like you already lost him, you know what I mean. And now, I mean, if he can get right and whatever, that's great, but it's not like you're looking at him with like hope and optimism that he's going to carry your pass. Rush's just like, well, yeah, nobody's gonna care if we have to cut this guy, and maybe he'll grow in something.

And I've always thought right kind of guy was bowl Anyway. I think it's really all about how well you play football, and if he can help your pass rush, that's fine. Um well he's he's had a few chances. Sure, still messing up, messing up? I see it. Like the team, they have plenty of players to deal with. Do you want to keep dealing with someone that gives you issues? Like you have too many guys that you're taken care of, and it's like an ex one of your exes keep

doing the same crap over and over. You get rid of them. Do you want to bring him back around? No, you're done, You're moving on. Okay, bye, good to know you. Let's see you bye next you move on. Got a good point, that's not that's that's not a bad point at all. Analogy I whatever, I'd still do it. You're a glinn for punishment. I mean I am as once I've invested time in you, I just feel like I got to get something back. Self loathing is a big part of my whole stick, So I'm fine with that's

your aura? Like, just what you do. That's really a bad Why it is, it's not, it's not I like, I like it. Yeah, I thought it's perfect. Well just to okay, what say well, I mean like you've been bashful to say what you want to say in the past. No, but I just mean, okay, So I just don't think it's a great comparison. You're saying that, Okay, let's move on.

Well you'll be fine, you can move on. The Cowboys been looking for a pass rush sure, since the Marcus weare for like the last like six or seven years now, I've been trying to find a I mean, so it's harder to just say, well, just move on. You really want to deal with him. They do need him that they need a player like him. But that goes back to the point I made. If he set out this long, what's the likelihood that he's going to be that player?

So you're not really getting the player you thought maybe you could get when you drafted him in the second round. Like that, that's gone like days, that's a sunk cost. At this point, you're not getting that guy. I don't think now. If he does, it'll be against all of what's happened to this point with guys that have been out that long. But you know, hey, all I'm saying is is the Cowboys have showed desperation to get a

defensive end. They were desperate in the draft to trade a two and a three to move up to get de Marcus Lawrence. They were desperate to get a guy that no one in the league would touch or will has touched since, and that's in Greg Hardy. They were desperate to get a guy that no one was touching in the draft and Randy Gregory. So they've been desperate. And so that's why I think for you to say say it like that, like move on, Yeah, okay, but you said it yourself earlier, you said you wouldn't want

him back. I mean, he gets to a point that you right, I got that they need that, they need that pass rush, but at what costs, Like do you want to deal with I don't know. I wouldn't. Yeah, well that's what I'm saying. I wouldn't bring him back either, But I'd say that comparison seems different for you to say move on from an actually just find someone else. When the Cowboys have been trying, they've been scraping the bottom of the barrel really to try to find that Hell,

that's what I'm saying. I didn't think any of us planned on spending fifteen minutes on Randy Gregory. But bottom line is, I would say there's there. I would bet against him playing a significant role for the Cowboys at any point going forward. But keep your ear to the ground on that, because I feel like there's at least

some rumbling of optimism that something could be there. And the one thing that we do know about this organization and particularly Jerry, is that when it comes to players that have had issues, if there's an opportunity to bring them back into the full, Jerry will look for that opportunity to bring them back in the fold that's been something that's been a repeated thing, and get him a job, no matter how many issues the guy has had, him a job doing something, even yeah, I mean playing There

are number of guys in this building, whether they're playing football or whether they're working just in the building, who have had a lot of issues, not just one like you said, Nick, they're the six strike guys that have that have jobs in this building. So whether they bring him back and they try him out to see if he can play anymore and ultimately can't or whether they

think they can get something out of him. History suggests that in some respects, if he can get his life together, there will the door will be open here for him to be able to be a part of this organization. Yeah, and he's such a head scratcher because he's one of the the smarter guys in there. He's more intelligent guys.

And you just wouldn't think han a guy that's that's that's smart, that intelligent, that either he's making bad decisions or you just can't help himself, because I know that that is considered an illness and no's all And there's there's some good guys in this building who have had similar types of issues. And I think about the documentary you guys did on leon Lett and some of the issues he had around drugs. And he's a good guy and he's doing a great job at the job that

he's given at this point in his life. He had to work past those things. And Nate Newton's another Nate works on our staff. And Nate had to work through some things that he got himself into. He'll tell you he got himself into those situations, but he got past it and now he's on a productive path. So I

just don't like the idea of throwing guys away. And I think i'm agreeing with you, Dave, that I give him a chance and let's just see, right if he doesn't, if he's not ready to play, find a job for him here if you want to do that, or just say goodbye. But either way, I think he you know, you can give it a shot and just see what happens. We're thinking of your Randy. We will see, all right, guys, appreciate you joining us back tomorrow. We'll get you guys

ready for this game Cowboys versus Redskin. We'll do a little seat or no tomorrow during the show. Till then for Nick even, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio Wow. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.