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Cowboys Break bring you David Helman's scouting report on the Raiders offense.

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The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, December thirteenth, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen, episode ninety.

Welcome to another edition of The Break. I'm Derek Eagleton, the real host of The Break, and um, you came back with a nice tan from the Bahamas. It was snowing in New York anyway. Wow. Um. After a lot of work and uh and a lot of promotion of what we do as a group, I'm back in studio now and ready for the show to resume. How about that? What I sway to phrase? What about tomorrow? Are you gonna be here tomorrow? I will not be here. I'm

out again tomorrow. Yeah. But uh, but Amber, she's now a professional at this and so she should be able to hold it down. She can kill it. She and Dave, Nick, You're out with me tomorrow. So we're doing we'll do management type things tomorrow and we'll leave Amber and Dave to handle this. Okay, cool, to be fun. The millennials will be the millennial show of the Break and Nick and I will be doing other things tomorrow weeking of Millennials tomorrow, So we're gonna miss tomorrow show. Yes, we

are gonna miss tomorrow show. I'm gonna miss. I don't know about you. I'm definitely missing tomorrow show. I think you should host tomorrow, Is that right? Yep? I think you should be the birthday host. It'll be your party tomorrow. Okay, Happy birthday to Dave. I'll just do Marco Murray. I'll just do the whole thing. Yeah, be fun, it'll be great. I'll listen, okay, but no, I'm probably won't Livensten's. I'll listen later. Week of birthdays around here it has. Brian

had his birthday, Amber had her birthday. Now Dave's gonna have his birthday. Is there's somebody else coming up this week? Oh? Nick? When is it it already happened? You were going? Did I miss it? It was Monday? Yep, that's okay. I had to go buy and do something nice for him or say something. We're having a nice birthday to day he's lunch. Yeah, it'll be fun. Did you guys give any input on where we're going to lunch today? This is all in the air, you know that. Oh sorry,

I kind of forgot we were on there. Okay, just kind of talking. I figured everybody else might want to join un too, right, that'd be fun. I'm thinking me, you've seen that firston. Oh yeah, let's do it all right, Let's let's talk some Cowboys football. Um, let's talk about the Oakland Raiders. Cowboys have a unique opportunity at this point, and they're still alive despite everything that's happened this season,

still alive at seven and six. This week's challenge is to go to Oakland and beat the Oakland Raiders, who if you look at any team in the NFL that I think parallels the Cowboys, it's the Oakland Raiders. And I'm thinking more from a big picture standpoint, last year, how both teams kind of popped onto the scene, had great seasons. You had young quarterbacks, You had teams that were kind of their defenses were a little bit iffy, but the offenses were just humming last year and then

this year. Things go wrong for both teams, I think, and they end up kind of in a very similar situation. Oakland, ironically, I think it's still in position to possibly win their division. I'm not positive about that. Theoretically they're not. They're not mathematically eliminated from winning their division at this point. And the Cowboys obviously in the same kind of situation. Although they aren't necessarily in the driver's seat, they still are

theoretically in contention for a playoff spot. And now they meet up on Sunday Night Football this week. Yeah, be fun. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what to say to all that. Like, I agree, I guess. I mean, I think I think the Raiders are a team that had high expectations, so the serted the Cowboys and you know,

and this is the nature of the NFL. I mean, Dave Dave had the list the other day of like sixty three players that are like really really good players that are not playing for whatever reasons for their team.

And now I don't know if the Raiders, all these teams across the league, just these two teams, No, I don't think the Raiders actually have Well it's funny that you say that they well they well, they might they might on Sunday, because it remains to be seen if a Marie Cooper is going to play it all for the rest of the season. Goodday night. He's not good not this year. Well, he's a good receiver. We we spent ten minutes talking about how much Dez dropped off.

I got some numbers for you right here. Really as stands as a stands right now, Mari Cooper has forty two catches for four hundred and ninety nine yards five touchdowns. Which you remember how many games? Um, I mean he's been in and out, but we'll find it. Well, yeah, pull it up for me. It's he's he's been there for most of okay, um average of eleven point nine yards per reception, which Das is at eleven point seven. Cars missed some time though, two which could affect Car

Maury Cooper. They both are having bad years, both probably as a result of injury. Cooper's got this ankle that he can't shake. Car hurt his back earlier in the year. Cars having a bad year. He's averaging two hundred twenty six yards a game. He's completing sixty three percent of his passes. He's thrown eighteen touchdowns and ten picks. Oh he's not. I mean they're not playing well, they're not. And is this about the running game? I think honestly, if you compare it to last year, like what went

wrong compared to last year? How how well their offense will playing? We know this year the Cowboys, it's it's a lot about Ezekiel Elliott. What has been their thing that's different this year. I think it's their quarterback. That's what I'm trying to tell you. That he's just bad this year relative to last year. It's one of those things. It reminds me a lot of DeMarcus Lawrence, where like he got dogged for two years. He didn't play very well, he was hurt, he had a back injury, he played

through it for the good of his team. It's we like, you know, it's hard to say this because Derek car is still playing, but like I assume he's not at one hundred percent. There's no I just refused to believe you could play at an MVP level. I mean he was in the MVP conversation before he broke his fibula. He missed the last two weeks of the season. He wasn't there for the playoffs. They were people thought they'd go deep into the playoffs where he got hurt. Yeah,

last year hurt his back. I don't think he's been the same guy. What point did he hurts back this year? This was in October and he missed a few weeks. He came back. He's been playing ever since. But again, I mean all right, I mean nineteenth in total offense, fifteenth in passing offense twenties and to your point, twenty six and rushing offense twenty first in scoring offense, they're only averaging twenty points per game. He has not been

lighting the world on fire. And like I said, for him to drop from an MVP level, the offensive lines all still there. I mean, I mean Donald Penn awesome, Melly gave Jackson, who they gave a big contract extension too over the summer. Right guard Marshall Newhouse, Like, it's the same dudes who were just Mall and people last year. And Marshawn Lynch. I don't know that he's the same guy he was when he was in Seattle, but he's

still an effective running back. And so I look at it and I'm just like quarterbacks not playing at the level that you thought he was when you gave him all that money. You talk about that offensive line this year, they're twenty six and sacks allowed. They've given up twenty one sacks, which can't be good for a quarterback with annailing back right and so, and I would suspect, I don't know the number, right off hand, I would suspect

he was not getting hit that often last year. That maybe another reason that's contributing to some of the difficulties at their experiencing. And as we are, the stats are ugly. I mean, you know, we don't like to take games away. And this might be a point that Dave would have made here, but he had eleven catches, two hundred and ten yards two talk about Cooper. Yeah, okay, Cooper, I know you were talking about car I was just looking

at these Cooper stats. He's played twelve games. He has a two hundred and ten yard game with two touchdowns and eleven catches. Like that was amazing. How long ago that was the can the City Wild? Yeah October um. But he's got two hundred and eighty nine yards in the other eleven games. Whoa, we'll back up, Yeah, he's been two hundred and eighty nine yards. I'm trying to do a quick math here, four ninety nine to ten in one game. So two eighty nine had a bad

year and three touchdowns, that's what I'm saying. You can say he's good. That's remarkably bad, Like it's a lot more on No, no game more than sixty two yards. But against the Chiefs to ten with the world watching on Thursday nine, that was a great game. And this is every bit of it. You know, this was one of the most explosive offenses in the year. Left. Yeah, last year, Derek Carr, like I for the third time, he nearly won the MVP, or was at least in

the consideration. Was Otavius Murray the runner last year? Yes? Okay, So did the Cowboys want Cooper to play or not? Maybe? Yeah, you you probably you probably want to go in and well, you know, you've got five touchdowns that I mean, he's still kind of he's still I don't the fact that he had a two hundred yard receiving day says that it's possible, Like, yeah, he's capable of doing that. And you know how the luck is of this team if

there's something that's that that can be exploited. Sometimes you end up in a bad situation and he gets exploited. I just uh, I mean they made they made that Denver offence look all world in week two. So I in researching this scouting report, there are people that say he might not play again the rest of the year. Like, I don't know, so we'll see. I don't know what. You know, it's two, it was, it's early in the week, it's only Wednesday. Nobody's practiced yet. That's something to keep

an eye on. But the other thing with that is like, as this all tends to kind of snowball. Quarterback's not playing well, the offensive line hasn't been great, Cooper's not great. And then after Amari Cooper, like this is either leading receiver, No, he's not, their leading their leading receivers Jared Cook okay, and then tight end, yeah, Michael Crabtree is there as well, but like without a chain, hey will, I just don't wear it on the field, dude, I don't get it deads.

Don't wear your diamonds. Jordan Lewis, if we're asking Joan's gonna steal this is going to be though, Yeah, my thing is is this for as dynamic as they were last year with Amari Cooper either out or hobbled. I was just not afraid of most of the I mean, okay, Jared Cook, he burned the Cowboys in the playoffs. I

get that he's a good player. He's got six hundred and twenty one yards, he's averaging thirteen yards per catch, But like, if that's your best option, if tight ends your best option, then is that far for you to move the ball consistently? Michael Michael Crabtree's got He's sitting on five hundred yards like that, I mean a lot like the Cowboys. Larin't larry in a lot there in

terms of just like this amazing dynamic passing production. After after Cooper, you go Crabtree and then Cordurell Patterson, who is like, I'm so, but he's the epitome of looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane like that guy doesn't. He's never done much for me. He's a great he has at times been a great kick returner. He's way more likely to like get an end around than go down the field and catch a football. And you know, um,

talk to me a little more about Marshawn Lynch. Is he is he a guy that is not getting Like we talked about the fact that they are twenty six and rush yards per game. Is that more a function of them not running him enough like his Are his yards per carry high enough that has suggested if he got more carries, they'd have a more productive running game. Or is this just simply a situation where they're just

not running the ball well at all? See and I watched the Chiefs game, which they were atrocious, and he looked like Marshawn Lynch to me. I mean they were running power, power runs and trap stuff. He's cutting fieldback, bulldoze and over linebackers, and I mean it wasn't like he was great. Obviously, they didn't score any points until late in the third order of that game. They lost twenty twenty nine to fifteen, or twenty six to fIF twenty six to fifteen. But he's still he looks like

the same guy to me. He's got six hundred yards on the year, seven touchdowns. If you watched him play the Giants two weeks ago, he had a sixty yard touchdown run. Like he can still do that stuff. It just hasn't been there for whatever reason, and you know, the offensive line, maybe that's that's part of it. Like you said, twenty six and sacks, but for them to only be a Russian for ninety one yards a game

seems weird to me. Like I said, I don't think Marshawn Lynch is the same guy, but I don't think he's dropped that far off that it's predominantly on him. All Right, So tell me the one thing, if there's one thing you can isolate and say, if they are a productive offensively, this will be the reason why. This is the one thing that they do well that they could possibly exploit against this Cowboys defense. Well, I'm Marshawn's averaging four point two yards per carrying just forever that's worth.

That's a pretty decent which I'm happy that Anthony Hitchins and Sean Lee will both be That's what that was My main impression from watching them play was like, Marshawn Lynch will be a problem for this team if Lee and Hitchins aren't playing well. But they've played well all years, so that seems that's great to me. They're both out there. Yeah, No, So that's what I'm watching because for whatever, I mean, wherever you want to assign the blame, the Oakland passing

game just doesn't have it at all this year. I don't that I didn't see anything that particularly scares me, especially if Amari Cooper's not playing. They tend to be better at home on the road, or does it matter? They're pretty much the same team regardless. Well there's six and seven, so I don't have that offhand. I'm sorry you stumped me. Their team or their offense either one. I looked this up there they're four and three at home,

the same team. If you're below five hundreds, you're probably I doubt you're just I mean, I guess you know. The year the Cowboys went twelve and four, they went undefeated on the road and four and four at home. I guess that's possible. But if you're below five hundred, you're probable means are much better team on the road. With the record. You know, the Cowboys are four and three,

uh two acts to four and two. You're right, four and the road on the road, So I guess that's I don't think of it that way because both their road losses are just beat downs, but I guess that's true. You guys have made me scared. I haven't been, but I'm just afraid of I don't believe much in home field advantage. But what the conversation yesterday, you guys scare me. I'm the black hole. I don't know what the black hole is, but I'm excited. I don't know about I'm

sure you are. This is gonna be. This is gonna be your one and only chance to see like they won't be there the next time the Cowboys play the rate. That's true. This is the last optunity. What I'm clapping glad that that's the last time to be in that stay. This is the last time we get to go. Well, I have to go, no, because we'll probably play there in the preseason. Oakland is a is an interesting It's

it's a dump. I've been to Oakland Alameda Coliseum. It's a dump, but it's it's cool though, like the black you know, we I've never been there when the Raiders were at least relevant. I know they're not good this year, but like the fans, it would have been cool to go last year. Yeah, but you know it'll be a night game. I feel like the Raiders probably haven't played a lot of primetime games in the last decade or so, they hadn't enough to deserve it. But this is a

rival game. You know, this is a rival the fan base is. It's a rivalry for the for this fan base and you know in particular, so this is a big deal. You know, when when we go to Oxnard every year for training camp, you can tell there's there's two teams that people really care. They'll be Oakland. There are Oakland fans that come to our practice, our training camp. You'll see some Oakland jerseys during our training camp and ox Yeah, that was interesting, but that'll be honestly, that'll

be that's the same in either place. Like when Oakland comes to play here, there are a lot of Raider fans in the in the audience at the Cowboy at at and T Stadium, same thing when we go there, there will be a lot of Cowboys fans there. Yeah, well most Raiders, I think. To next point though, like the Cowboys are team. There's Oakland, San Francisco, and then the Cowboys. And we'll see what happens with the Rams

now that they're back. But those are the three and so I know all the Cowboys fans that live out on the West coast, like this is a big deal for them to have bragging rights over those West coast. So we haven't played a regular season game there since two thousand and five. Oh, I'm thinking about preseason. We've played a lot of preseason we have. All I know is when we walked down to do our post game, you guys are gonna I'm gonna be in between you guys,

I need someone in front of me. I'm gonna I will tell you this Oakland is that is the only stadium and that is the only stadium in the league where I've walked in the stadium and smell marijuana. Like I was like, is this okay? Like I'm smelling this in a stadium? Is this okay? And that's Oakland for you. I'm gonna go get a picture with the gorilla I thought, you guys say you're gonna go take a toke. I was like, man, that's not good. I'm not gonna not

a good idea. Say okay, good, Just I gonna tell anybody, I'm gonna go get a picture with the gorilla guy and the skull guy. And all though crazy, is the skull guys still there. I don't know. I'm gonna check it out. I want to see him, Darth Vader. Yeah, and I think there's a chef maybe. I don't know. There's a lot of stuff chef. There's a lot of stuff going on in them. But supposedly they're not nice. Well they're not nice to the opposing team. Yeah, but I don't what's that got to do with me. I

think they'll be okay. Honestly, I don't think Oakland is as bad. Honestly, I don't think Oakland's near as bad as Philly fans. In my opinion. I've only had eggs thrown it at my bus one right, So Philly fans are much different, like they are on a whole different level than anybody else. The Oakland fans. Yeah, they rude, hard for their team and more fun. You might get stuck if you say something crazy, but hey, it happens, right, So you know Philly stuck. Yeah, no, I got you.

Second year covering the team in Philly is two thousand. I was on the sideline at the end of the game. Randall Cunningham was the quarterback for the Cowboys that day, and all of a sudden, something hit me in the bottom of the foot, and I like looked down and there was a there was a like d size battery thrown your foot. Oh I know, I mean dulous and Philly. That makes sense. So all that stuff about the seattle and the beer thrown on the guy whatever. Yeah, No,

Philly is a whole different level. Like those fans are crazy, Like yeah, I think I think Oakland's fun. It'll be a fun game. It'll be a fun atmosphere. I guarantee on a Sunday night it will be a fun atmosphere, hope. So it's unique because unlike all the other stadiums, there's typically three to four ways to get on the field, but there's only one. And so you got you walk right in the middle of the Raiders sideline, so you have to go all the way around one way or other.

And don't we have to go Don't you have to go through the fans when you come down the elevator, you have to go through the fans to get to the field. If the elevators working, I'm pretty sure we have to go through the fans. That was It's a dump. Yeah, though, So I shouldn't wear blue wear blue. I'm gonna leave

mine you shouldn't have to worry about that. Like there will be other things you should probably be worried about, but you don't have to worry about somebody make what huh it's saying like it could be a rough day. Was the last time we were there? The kid from Akron was the quarterback who like it was it was preseason or it was a kid. No for us An it was like our it was Tanny. That's who it was. Tanny. Tanny time. Yeah, try to lead a like last second

comeback against them. I think they won. Yeah, I don't think it worked out for We're gonna do throwback Thursday tomorrow and we're gonna pick one of the nineties games. So they won there. But I was thinking the best memory that I have from going to Glynn was when Romo in one drive went from you're gonna be cut, like, yeah, he is gonna be cut tomorrow. Two there's a you know, because he threw an interception on fourth down like that said,

he's been horrible, Henson's been horrible. They just cut Quincy like Romo, They're gonna cut this Romo guy. And it was offsides on the Raiders. Oh so we get to extend the drive, all right, and then it just was Romo just twelve two six, eight fourteen what marched him down the field, down the one clock running out? He should have spiked it. He's decided. His instincts said I could sneak it in and win the game, and he did. And then the term Moxie was born with him. And

that's when Romo became Tony Romo. That day and in a preseason game, and you know it went from there. But I guarantee you if he if that there was not a holding penalty or off side whatever the penalty was on the Raiders and the game ended like that, he was going to be released. Ye. So and if you want to read more about that or hear more about that, go check out our Deep Blue from season one. Yeah, that was a good one. What was it called Starcross

something I think it was. I think that one was Starcross. But it's about Quincy Carter and Tony Romo and about that moment. I know there's a lot we have to talk quite a bit about that moment. So all right, let's take our first break. When we come back, we're gonna get some questions. Call us two one four eighty seven two twenty one oh two is our number. We're trying to get as many questions as we can today.

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for details. Back to the break Welcome back. It is the second segment of the Break Life from the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. We're talking Cowboys versus Raiders. Cowboys that take on the Raiders this Sunday at Sunday Night Football seven thirty pm Central Time. Make sure you check it out. Cowboys are on a two game two game winning streak now yep, two game winning streak. Need to win five in a row inder to even have

a shot at the playoffs. So we'll see if they can continue their winning ways this week, and of course next week they get Ezekiel Elliott back. That is the big things they can get past this week, then you feel a lot better about those final two games. Is it mathematical that they're out if they lose another one? Or is it just like such a slimming I think I think mathematically they're out if the teams above them

also win. Yeah, because really the big thing is those three teams in the NFC South you need right now, if the Cowboys went out, you need one of those teams to lose two of their three final games. Yeah, And and so if you lose another one, then I think it kind of creates a scenario where even with that, I don't think you get in. Yeah, so I think you're probably probably done keeping keep absolutely if nothing else, just get to that final game and make it count

like to where it actually matters. And if it doesn't work out, then it doesn't work out, you know. And with the Eagles, you know, playing without wins, I mean I still think that they're going to be good. You guys feel sorry for the Eagles at all? I feel fans Eagle fans, I should I feel sorry for the Eagles are and wins, I don't feel hold on, hold on, rewind it back about minutes. I'm standing on the sideline. I got hit by a battery. Yeah, I feel real

sorry for you. No, but here's the thing, Like, you have a good team and a good young quarterback and he got hurt on a play that didn't count. Sorry, and and they were this is the thing, but I told you you did the game party quarterback. They didn't lose the game, though they lost the previous game before that. That's what I'm saying. They're gonna They're gonna have two big losses in two straight weeks. Got it. But the thing about it is that's been the history of it.

Makes that anyway? Is they all? It seems like whenever they get on a roll and they think, yes, this is going to be our year, like they're the only team in the division is not won a championship. And every time it seems like they get into a position where they think they have something rolling, it just doesn't work out for him. So you just got if I had the drop, I would play the Clinton Dicks drop. That's what I would playing for that. Huh huh. Yeah, So you got no faith that, thank you? You got

no faith that Nick Foles can. I do actually hate the Pro Bowl and Philly in twenty thirteen. Yeah, that's the thing. I think They're gonna go deep in the playoffs with Nick Foles. They're a good football team. They're a good football team. Carson Wentz is really good. Yes, but I want you to tell me a team who I'm a believer that that offense flows because Wentz makes some throws that are exceptional throws. I don't think Nick

Foles do. Do I think it's gonna happen. No, But I want you to tell me who you just are, Like, that's the NFC team right there, if that's the way. No, it's not that. I just think that with wins, they're right up there at the top. Without wins, I think there are probably four teams, if not maybe more, that are better than them without wins. When it's when it's all said and done, whatever the six team NFC field is,

I feel like it could be anybody's day. Like any of the six teams that make it could probably make the Super Bowl. I don't think. I don't think the Eagles are in that category me anymore about wins. With that deepens and the fact that they'll probably they'll probably be playing any of their games at home, Yeah, I think so. Are you sure about that though? I mean,

they they're not. They haven't locked up anything. They gotta they gotta leg up if they can get home, if they can at least get a bye week and be one game one home game away from the NFC. Tap, are they one game ahead of game ahead of Minnesota? Minnesota, who consequently probably has the second worst two games ahead of the Rams. Is that right? Yeah? Okay, so they lose, No, they're three game, No, they're two games, they're two two games ahead of them. So if they lose two of

these final three, they won't have a buy. I don't think they're going to, but we'll see, we'll see. I think that will be very interesting, and I again, I think they have a good team. I'm just not certain that, as we've seen this year, one player can make a huge difference, and I do think Wins is that player for them. I think there are probably a lot of other injuries they can absorb, which they have this year.

They lost their left tackle, they lost other good players, but I don't think they've lost the player of the caliber of Wins and what Wins provides for them. I think that's going to be a really, really key for them. We shall see, we'll see. All right, let's get to some questions. You guys can give us a call the numbers two one four eighty seven to twenty one h two. You can also hit us on Twitter at Cowboys break. We have a call from Calvin in Atlanta. Calvin, what up? Hey?

What's going on? Everybody? Hey? Doing? Hey? Pretty good? Hey listen. UM, I know coming up they got some team that have some really good defenses. And for me, when I when I see this team face a team that is just as physical defensively as we are offensively, Lenahan can't schematically get you a victory. Um. I think as I watched him call players or whatever, to me, it's like his his philosophy is We're gonna go in and physically beat

you up for sixty minutes. And if he can't do that, he can't schematically get to get to a victory, which you know, you know, I mean, we're talking about a guy who comes from Detroit where he had possibly a top ten quarterback, arguably the best receiver in the game, and he couldn't accomplish anything. And his best play there was the jump ball, which we always see here. We're dad, I just don't know if he can get it done. And I'm gonna thrown out there. I know it's a

long shout of thrown out there. Need to bring Tony Romo back as the offer as a coordinator he knows the scheme, he knows the personnel, and he knows defense. Hang up this, hey, hey, Calvin, Calvin, Calvin, real quick? Are you just to be clear? Are you saying you think Oakland is a good defense? Not not necessarily Oakland, but you're talking about the last two? I got you? Okay, I just want to be clear in that. All right, thanks, all right, thank you. I wonder if Calvin is on Instagram?

And if he is, does he follows Tony Romo? And if he does, did he see Tony Romo laying on his couch the other day? It's not coming back to be an offensive coordinator. I don't think he wants to do that. See your kids living the life. I'm leaving. I'm going to going to the office, try to figure this out, and it's not gonna work. In fact, if he's ever going to be a coordinator, he'd be a defensive coordinator. He's not gonna be an offensive coordinator. He ever was going to be a coach, he'd be a

defensive coordinator. What makes you say that? Because he knows how to stop him? I mean he would he said that before he said that, I mean he said I'll be I mean, I know how to. I would rather scheme a defense than be an offensive coordinator. In fact, I've seen him be a defensive coordinator in flag football game too. But that's not why I said that. I was just Tea. That was before Tony Romo. Yeah, it was Tea. We got this guy, nobody knows him. His

name's Tony. He's gonna come out and play flag football with us, and we're gonna be good until the playoffs. Threw five interceptions in a playoff game, true store three yikes by the team that was all all Hispanic, spoke Spanish and had all these plays and stuff and just confused the hell out of everybody and him, and then he kept throwing interception after interception. This is a second I want to they. I wonder if now they have a great story, like they're like, we play Tony. There's

no doubt. There's no doubt they did they if they, you think they would have noticed later that was a guy that was probably yeah, yeah it was. It was bad. It was real bad. I mean, he'd only that was his first year, and I remember thinking, like this guy, he's having a hard time with oh, black football. I don't know how he's gonna do in the end. Yeah. Yeah, there's two Romo stories from two thousand and four. Good, all right, Let's let's get back to some questions. Let's

take a question from Twitter. We will help the Cowboys defense more against the Raiders the return of a for rush for Russies, ferocious pass rush or a great run game from the offense and effective Redstone scoring. Well, Hell, if the Raiders are twenty six in sacks, that's nice. But I thought the Cowboys pass rush would have more success against the Giants. So I don't know. I mean, Eli doesn't get sacked the whole does he? But they are I mean they You're right, they get to car

I mean the Chiefs sacked him three or four times. Yeah. Um, I'm a big fan of that. Like, I don't know from watching this for DeMarcus Laren is gonna get a ton of calls this week, right, Did y'all talk about that? We did, and we kind of disagreed. I thought that I like that he's kind of stood up for himself and the team. But I do wonder is it gonna have some you know, did he go too far? That's

what I want? Yeah, when you when you when you go when you've ended the way that he ended it, I think that's when there may be reffs that take that personal. Now, of course, here's the other part to that. I think reff's buying large are probably professionals, which means it as a professional, you dismissed that kind of stuff and you say, I still got to do my job, And so it doesn't necessarily make you not make calls that you should make because you're a professional. You got

to be looking at all that. You can't be saying, yeah, where's ninety. Yeah, I don't worry unless they're just joining for the whole team and say yeah, exactly now. Now, maybe that, but I honestly, I don't think that happens. I honestly think more than anything else, is just gonna wake up the league to him, and he's probably gonna get fine. But but that's really what it's gonna do, is the league will look at it and say, probably

we'll just say he's complaining for no reason. I don't know that it will make them necessarily look at this and say, hey, what's going on here? I don't know, maybe it. Garrett seemed really upset about when he saw the video from DeMarcus Lawrence. Really no, I don't really know. And I wonder you looked at it like. That's the other thing though, too, is you know teams every week

they send a tape. They usually send the tape to the league saying, hey, here's some things we're saying that are not being called the way that they should be called. And I wonder if this has been an ongoing thing for them, where every week they're sending in a tape saying hold, hold, hold, hold, and nothing's being called. And maybe Jason looks at Dan's like, yeah, it wasn't wrong. I'm barred with white hit Dad. You said you're on board. Yeah, yep, absolutely.

I mean I didn't have a problem with it. I thought it was funny. Actually, I thought it was great. It's immediately when you said it, though, I was like, oh, fine, he's gonna get he's gonna lose some money on that one. But hey, if he's willing to do it, so why why you get fine for that? Hold On? Hold on. I hate being this scrooge here, but if the refs is not it's not fine. It's not it's not fine for for our society. It's not I really like him as a player. I like him, and he's been a

stand up leader. I like everything he did. But we can't say that I love it that that's not what you do. You don't. You don't cuss out authority like that. If we if we were in a room with like Congress people and we're talking politics, yeah, be polite, and you have a certain language, you're talking about football. I don't know if that's the right arena these ways. Yeah, I know, that's a horrible example like that. I'm saying in that scenario, that's the way you should, you know,

watch out, Yeah, right, you should. Obviously we're not gonna everyone knows what's happening in today's world. But aside from that, you're talking about football players in this kind of environment, saying the F word. It is not a big deal in this environment. I agree, there's a level of respect. Agree about the word. It's about what, you know what. Four minutes, I'll tell you a little bit more why I think that way, but why I believe that way. But I just think it's not like the worst thing

in the world. But I'm just saying he has a chance to maybe hurt his team and himself even more by by saying, Mom, I don't I heard him any hurt him anymore than they already are. They've gotten eight holding flags all year. Yeah, it's not it's half of the average. I'm just saying it for this show. I y'all can say what you want, but I'm not gonna sit here and say, like, I loved it, that was great, yep, cuss cuss out the refs and just just call them.

I get what you're I get what you're saying mainly from the standpoint, mainly from the standpoint of it's not good when you say it's not good for our society. I get that because anytime there is a you know, that level of disrespect shown to an authority figure, it's not a good precedent to set. I get that. I guess the point that I'm saying is, I think it's

it was. It's okay at some point for somebody to step up and say something about it, because I think it's ridiculous that this is a this is a penalty that throughout the NFL you hear people say a year after year after year, you could probably call it on every single play in every single game, and yet for seven games the Cowboys have gotten no calls, and we have literally sat there and watched moments when these defensive linemen have been basically tackled and there's no call. So

it's about time, in my opinion, somebody says something. Could he have used better words? Probably so? Could you. Could he have said it a different way? Probably so. But I also think a lot of that may be born out of a certain level of frustration that, man, this is continuing to happen. You think it's going to get better at some point, but it doesn't seem to be getting better, and it's just it's it gets to a

point where it's just a breaking point. And I think we all sometimes find ourselves in situations where we may say things the wrong way because of our level of frustration. That doesn't make it right, but it certainly happens, and it happens to all of us. Right, I'm good at that. I think what also helps, I mean, for men not to cut you off as kind of ironic all people, Yeah you're one, Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, now he's gonna say.

I think it helps for me agreeing to that, just because I know DeMarcus character and I know had it been some other guy, that is just ridiculous. I don't know. I'm not gonna throw names, but had you been somebody else, and I would have been like, oh my god. Yeah. But you know DeMarcus, like, yes, he's a crazy guy in some ways, but he's a you know, he's a good guy. He has um what do you call these um I can't think of the word, but whatever, he

has those things that make you a good person. Good morals, yes, morals, So good job for him. Express yourself and you know if you're being, if you're being. He just helpead. He just helped out the community. Speak up, yes, speak up for your rights. He did. He did help the community out because where he's fine, and it'll be a hefty one, it's going to go somewhere in the community, gonna help somebody, So the NFL does. So he got his word out

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we need those you know, those receivers. I mean the last couple of games, in particular the last one, you know, we had some issues catching the wall obviously moving forward, do you see them addressing the wide receiver position at any point, whether it be the draft, free agency? I mean, free agency hasn't necessarily worked out for us too well over the last couple of years. Um, so do you think it's something we're going to address in the draft or or or free agency? That's out of my question.

I'll listen and hang up. Thanks guys, Thank you. I would be shocked this year if the Cowboys in the draft don't address the wide receiver position. Shocked. I'd be shocked, having drafted too last year. And I say in a meaningful way. What I mean by that is at least top three picks. Wow, shocked. I'd be shocked if they got that. I'd be shocked because I think I think this year illuminated for me at least that they have a hard time with a reliable receiving threat, somebody that

gets open regularly and creates opportunities. They have a lot of guys. I think they have several guys who have the ability to catch the ball in situations where it looks like the cover, but if you throw it in the right place, they can probably make the catch. I don't know if they have a lot of guys who can get open, like even against man coverage. We see all the time, and I actually spent this last game

spending quite a bit of time. I told you Nick before the game started, I was going to really focus on the receivers. Yeah, there aren't a lot of times that you see receivers open. Part of that may be because they're not scheming them to get open. I think that's a big issue. You look at other teams and you see how like these teams all around the league, how many times do you see like all of these rub routes and things that basically just free guys up

Cowboys don't do a lot of that stuff. In my opinion, they don't do it enough. But even that being said, I don't think these receivers are the kind of receivers that get open enough and present themselves as an open receiver to make a big play, as I've seen with other teams around the league. So I would be shocked again if they don't address that high in the draft

this year. I hope you're right, because I say this all the time, like there's so much receiver talent coming out of college football these days, and you can find great receivers as late as like pick seventy eighty. You don't even okay, Antonio Brown was like pick one fifty something that don't forget that. I mean, Juju Smith Schuster was pick sixty seven. I think Jarvis Landry was pick seventy eight. Like you can find good, good players later on. So I hope you're right. I just look at it,

and I don't think Das is going anywhere. I don't think Terence is going anywhere. Cole's got another year left on his deal. Switzer's here, I don't think he's going anywhere. And I think Noah Brown has been impressive enough that he's not going anywhere. Really, the only mail Brown is still the same of what you already have. And I'm just I'm I'm not worried about that. I'm looking at the numbers and I'm looking at like, how you get

these guys on the field. And I wonder if these guys are gonna look at it and say, we can get through one more year before we have to worry about this. And if we draft a guy high, we're putting somebody that we invested in on the bench, whether that's one of your big money, bigger receivers or your draft pick or whatever. So I completely agree with your logic. I just wonder if they will feel as strongly about

it as you do. Here's one thing I will say, although Switzer is going to be on this team, Switzer has a role, and whether they use him as a receiver a ton or not, he's still going to be

on this team because he's a return guy. Right. So there's a way to be able to get a guy that you draft and you put him in there, and you know, as much as they rotate receivers in and out, if he's your fourth receiver, then there's a good chance he's gonna play quite a bit of snaps, right, So I think there's I think there's still an opportunity for him. And it doesn't change, It doesn't change necessarily from the standpoint of the makeup of the other guys on the

wide receiver corps. Let's put it another way, if one of my first three picks is a wide receiver, I want him on the field all the time again, which that's okay, that's okay, because that just means that Terrence will be have limited numbers snaps. And I think I'm looking on right, I'm looking at Terrence's contract right now.

He's not gonna get cut after this season, right, but he probably will get cut after the next season, right, So the same So it works, right if if if a little bit next year to sign Brice back, you draft him now, you draft the guy now, and then he plays that role in switcher. You know, maybe he can do more than two catches for nine yards this year next year, and then you know, and then then you figure out what you want to do with Daz if if you haven't already done it, your logic, Hey,

I agree with both of you. I'm just saying I wonder if they'll think maybe not, we're good and then in twenty nineteen, we're going to spend a top fifty receiver real quick. How they get out from us. It's tough to throw that guy in though, immediately, especially if you're didn't worry about what are they doing with Desi's contract depends on how good It's not hard to throw

that guy in immediately. If he's good, if he's the top like sixty caliber talent, I mean, like receivers, these like the good ones get I mean, especially if it's a first round pick. Yeah, but the good ones? Are you talking about the ones that like? You're right if it's a if it's an early to mid round first round pick, then I think you're probably right. You probably can throw that guy and expect him to play and

play well immediately. I also will say, though, is typically when you find a receiver that's thrown in immediately that does well, it's usually in a situation where there's another really good receiver on the team and that takes a little bit of the pressure off him rather than him coming in and being the man immediately. I think that's a big part of that. And there's a good chance that will still be here, so it won't matter. You'll

still have Dazz on the opposite side. I just look at the I look at the Cooper Cups of the world, and again, Jarvis Landry and I could probably come. But Robert Woods has been their main guy this year. He's been leading them this year as far as receivers or he's not. I noticed, I didn't say Juju because he's got a B. Robert Woods is not a B like that. I mean, if you're good, you can get in and play. That's I believe that. Yes, I agree with I think

we're saying the same thing. I just think that it probably helps to do that a year early rather than doing it once you've already made those moves and those guys are no longer on your roster. Question for you guys, this is I mean, it's kind of hard because just not taking into consideration all the different factors such as

contract and money. Based on the group of wide receivers that the Cowboys have right now, which ones ideally would you like to keep if you had to restart the whole group, And like say, I'm one hundred percent keeping this guy and this guy and this guy and drafting. You're not putting money involved, no talent wise, just all based on talent if it's got nothing. So this the salary cap doesn't affect anything. No, I'm just talking about just talent. You're keeping Des, Yeah, I mean this is

the best one. I'm probably keeping Des Beasley and Noah and I guess Switzer real quick about when you'll think about Terrence Williams. What's the one thing, the negative thing you think the most about Terrence? Inconsistent catching, inconsistent everything. Yeah, yeah, that's good. Did you know that he leads all Cowboy wide receivers in in catch in like the catch percentage from the amount of targets to the catches. He's got the best one. That doesn't mean that doesn't mean everybody

else hasn't been. I'm just saying, but I think Beasley is at like fifty or sixty percent, which is ridiculous for him because he's usually up in then like eight. But how many times is Beasley? Like what that that stat you're throwing out, that's a stat to me. That's about targets. Yeah, And so there are situations where the balls we've seen it this year where the ball severely overthrown. Beasley's not getting up there to get that one right. That's different than ball hits you in the chest and

falls to them. I know. All I'm saying is for the amount of targets to the I mean the percentage. You wouldn't think that he would be leading all of the wide receivers over Noah Brown, over Bryce, over Dez. Who's the worst on the team over Beasley. Oh, that is surprising for me. It's it's shocking that that he's the one at sixty seven percent. I mean, I'm not saying that he can do a better job at getting open and making plays all that. I just that's surprising

to me. Best on the team is sixty seven percent. No, no, no the ride receivers, But okay, best Smith is the best of the best of the wide receivers wide receiver sixty That's still not good. But that's why I say I would be shocked at the Cowboys own address it, like that's a problem. I think it need to be addressed, and I think they'll do it in the first three rounds um And and I don't think they'll resign Bryce and so, like I said, I think he just kind

of ease him into it. And but let's let's flip that conversation. How much of that is the receivers and how much of that is Dak? Because let's remember the first year, Dak was put in a situation where they were putting as much on him, and he hasn't been great in some games. There's been some games where he was just wasn't great throwing the ball. So how much do you put on the receivers versus put on Dak.

I have no problem envisioning, you know, going to the combine, the owners meetings, all those offseason interviews where they kind of give you hints about how they feel about things, and I have no problem envisioning, you know, a scenario where they're fine with the receivers that they have, if they can get their team back to running the running back the way it was with Zeke and maybe reinforcing the running back position, you know, getting back to what

they did so well in twenty sixteen when they had the same receivers and they were much more successful. That is that? Yeah, I can hear that crystal clear in my ears, Like I already feel like they're going to say it, So I'm with you. That's like I said, I agree with what you're saying about the receivers, but

I won't be surprised if they don't agree. Yeah, I just think, And I also think when you look at all the positions on the team that you could draft fore now, I'm still a big believer in draft the best guy that's available when you come up, But I think when you look at even just if you wanted to look at what you need, I don't know. I have a hard time coming up with a position that I think is way more important right now other than

ny Bee linebacker than wide receiver. As far as what you're gonna draf, I don't think they're gonna draft cornerbacks as a high priority. They've already done that. They're gonna give those guys time to develop. Linebacker, safety, and depending on what happens in free agency, offensive line. Yeah, I don't. Again, I don't think any of those is necessarily other than linebacker. Because of the uncertainty of linebacker. I don't know that any of those I think is a bigger priority than

wide receiver. Maybe the same. I don't know that think one's bigger. I think they all are. That's why really That's why I was saying that, yes, what offensive line, because they wouldn't start immediately. So you're gonna take a first or second round pick on a guy that's not gonna start. That's why I said, it depends on free agency. If you don't have a left card, you might get a drag guy that can start right away. You don't think Cooper's coming back, I don't know. That's why I said,

depending on free agency. He's a free agent. I don't know where it's going to happen to him. You might need a left card. Don't forget about tight end. Tight ends? Got it? Maybe a position in the second round, Maybe that needs to be addressed. Oh god, another second round tight I mean okay, I mean you did it eleven years ago. It's gonna keep running there out. Did you

see Fasano still playing in You'll see that. The other day I was looking and I looked at the stats, and I was like, wow, he's been in the legal eleven years. He's a blocking tight end essentially, but he's made a nice career for himself. Huh. If they don't like him, I mean, if this team doesn't want to use him, then I don't I don't know what to I don't know what. I don't know what to think of that. I don't really don't. There's there's much more

going on. I'll just leave it at that. There's much more going on behind the scenes of this whole situation. Some people probably like him, some people don't. I don't. I don't know. I don't know what's going on with with a training camp concussion and he's never played. I just don't know, and I it just it doesn't seem something just doesn't seem right about this. I don't I don't know what's happened with him. And maybe there's more into his injury than we just haven't been told about

all that. So but no, I mean, they obviously like Blake Jarwin or they didn't want anyone else to take him, so he'll be in the mix. But I think you need to get him another tight end in here. And I'm not saying anything about Jason Witten. Just think about Hannah and Swing. They don't really get open and do a whole lot for you. I know Hannah had the greatest catch of his life the other day, but I

mean it doesn't do much. I mean, I think you need to get a different type of tied end in here somehow, I'm way, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's going to be on their radar. I think it was on their radar last year. They did like they did like a few of the tight ends class last year. So let's get a call from Chris and Houston. Chris, what up? Hello? Everybody? Thank you for taking the call.

He excuse me. I agree with Dave about the safety being a higher priority than probably some of the other ones. And no, I'm not a Jeff Heath hater. I've always I've always liked them. I just never thought of him as a starter caliber type. And I don't know what happened to Barron Jones. I don't know why he hasn't,

you know, been better. But I did want to mention something I called in last week talking about something going on with electronic arts, and I just wanted to make sure that everybody was aware of this and that we keep pressing this issue. Electronic arts is getting into trouble with multiple governments around the world for basically selling gambling two children. Okay, we appreciate that, now, we know. Yeah, um okay, So he called in last week. Yeah, I

don't remember, not on this show. Oh okay, I don't think I don't remember that. Yeah, I think it was the other one. Okay. Well, anyway, Um, platforms for everything. I don't think this is the one for that. This is not for us. We have a lot of this stuff to talk about. Let's get another question from Twitter before you in the show. Well, how are you guys expecting that the Cowboys we will use rot Smith one Ezekiel Elliott comes back. Good question. We talked about that

on cover four last night. I go no. I mean, I just think that's something that we really haven't discussed much. And I don't know if it'll be a huge difference, because if you saw what he did in the passing game, I think he'll he'll probably be your third down back. Though. I don't think you could just load everything up on Zeke as he as he comes back. I think it's really good timing for him to be a good on third down. I think he's your third down back. That's

a good way to eat Zeke back in. You know, I don't like just throwing guys directly in and giving them all the snaps. I don't think they'll do that, so I think they probably will use him. One of his best plays of the game was picking up the blitz on the fifty four yard past the Beasley. Yeah, that was a huge play in the game, and obviously it wouldn't have happened if he doesn't get his guy. So all the other touchdowns and plays he made that were great, but that one should have been on, you know,

his one of his top three or four. I think the more important question is not when Zeke comes back, but this week against Oakland. Do you expect he'll have an increased role because of the production he had in this last game. That doesn't seem like Jason Garrett really it's I would imagine like they like they like what they got. I mean, like maybe maybe he'll see a few more carries, but like they're not gonna I don't

think they're gonna drastically change anything. I think Alfred will be your first and second down guy, Rod third, and then he'll get a couple series, but I bet it. I thought more than anything, Rod Smith's success, I thought that touchdown really just showed the maturity that we're seeing more out of Dak. I thought Dak did a great job of getting that play open for him and creating him a spot and recognizing, oh, if I move him here, look over here, throw it here, we can have a

big play. And you know, Rod did the rest. But I thought it was a really great play for Prescott. I'll throw this out there. I get what you're saying, and it makes sense, and you're probably right. But I hope Zeke comes back in a condition where he can handle the look like, I hope that they don't have to ease him in because he's not ready for it, you know, Like it's I don't know if it'll be a matter of him being ready or not being ready,

as much as just the history of how they do things. Yeah, it seems like when guys come back from whatever, they tend to not just throw them in and give him a full workload. They tend to kind of ease him back in. And maybe this is different. He's already played some this season and they're at the final two games of the season and they feel like, hey, he's got a bunch of got a bunch of carries left that

we can use. Let's get him out there. I don't know, but just historically that doesn't seem like something that Jason likes to do. I agree with you. I just I hope he's I hope he's been conditioning and he's ready for a big workload, whether they want to give it to him or not. I think he will be. I think he's coming back. It's weird. It's weird that we're five days away from that, I know, from this whole thing being over. Yeah, Monday, he can maybe back in

the building Monday, Ye if he wants to be. I know that day. You know, it's the day off of the players. But all right, we appreciate you guys joining us. We're back tomorrow. We're gonna or at least Amber and Dave will be back tomorrow. They're gonna tell you all about this Oakland Raider defense and break down the matchup between Cowboys and Raiders. Till then for Nick Even, Dave Hellman, Hamburg Garcia. I'm Derek Hikilson. This have been the Break

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