Cowboys Break: Scouting The Giants Offense

number eighty five. Welcome to another edition of The Break, live from the s WBC Morgas studios at the Star, and we're ready to talk some Cowboys football with you guys. This morning. We're gonna focus in on the New York Giants. Dave has a scouting report in New York's offense. We'll talk about that today. I hope he has the offense and no, yeah, okay, that look made me think, oh god, did you do Denos? That look was like they're bad? That was okay, good, good, perfect. I like to hear that.

That'll be good. So we'll talk about that a little bit. And uh, we'll start first though, talking a little bit about the cornerback situation. They will probably be without Orlando Scandrick and we'll talk about what that could mean for them. How's everybody doing this morning? Good? Lovely? Great? Coach? You good Amber. I'll just do the wave. It's Wednesday. It's Wednesday, coach. I mean, what should we do on a Wednesday? Y'all feel a little Wednesday? Thank you? Y'all feel a little

out of sorts now? I feel great. Just I don't mean like tired or just it. We're finally like back into like the Monday Friday grind. Oh yeah, after I mean it's literally been a month since the Cowboys have been on their normal schedule. Yeah, so it doesn't feel like one of the normal schedule again. I don't think that'll happen And that's probably Sunday, right because because it's been a week since they've played, Like, it feels like we're supposed to be getting ready to play a game,

but it's Wednesday. When they announced that Alfred Morris was one of the three finalists for that award X Aaron Grown like for what game? Yeah, feels the last game Redskins game was like a month ago. Yeah, it's been a while. It's been a while since they played some football. But they'll be back on Sunday at noon. In case

you guys didn't know, the game was flexed down. It was a supposed to be a three twenty five game, three thirty games, something like that, but now it's been flexed back to a noon game, which for us, it's pretty good. How many times in history has an NFC dot like that? It's fine, I mean, it's all it all is good until you're rushing on to get on the bus at nine thirty and because you got like a one hour bus ride to the stadium, and you're like, man,

why didn't it just keep it at three? These guys are morning person though, they get up and I'm much to do that breakfast late night. How how how many times ever in y'all's twenty years being around here has a NFC East game been flexed out of prime time and into how Boys four Eagles, Cowboys and O seven. I was glad. I was like, how about to say I don't remember that? I was just gonna ye, like you must looked at the notes or something now, and why would they put that in there? This one got

moved down? Yeah? Yeah, PR's like, this is only the fifth time we've been in a bad enough matchup to get flexed out of primetime. Yeah, yeah, but they did not get flexed out of that Sunday night game next week. That's not happening. So they'll be playing next week against the Raiders in prime time seven thirty in Oakland. So that'll be a fun night, you know, Glenn, we'll get back at about three o'clock in the morning. That'll be good,

all right. So that that could have been a because because of the Pittsburgh game, Pittsburgh and New England, Yeah, that would be the game. Everybody's kind of looking at, like, you know, both of them are ten and two right now, right, I mean, yeah, that would be the game you'd probably think. But as I was selling someone else, you look at the just the size of the fan bases between the Cowboys the Raiders, and by the way, the Raiders are still in contention to win. The Raiders winning against the

Giants put them back in right. Yeah, so it's their division is I think everybody's either at five hundred or below, so they're still in contention win their division. The Cowboys, if they win this weekend, continue to be in the mix for the playoffs, so then it becomes a meaningful game with two really large fan bases. So I'm sure, I'm sure NBC wasn't wouldn't have been happy to give that up. All right, let's talk some Cowboys football. Let's

talk about these cornerbacks. It's interesting yesterday, Dave, I don't know if Orlando was listening to our show, but I heard him yesterday evening on another show here in Dallas where he was talking about They asked him, so, you know, you're talking about the injury and everything, and they said, so you kind of see if you can give it a go by the weekend. And you know, it's of course Orlando, and so it's an awkward pause and he's like, dude, I have a broken bone in my back. Do you

think it's not a situation. I mean, you know, he said, it's not a situation of let's see if we can give it a go. I mean he said, I'll just keep doing the rehab and everything. And he said that, yeah, that's kind of He was pretty adamant, like do you did you hear what I said? Like I got broken bones in my back. I would have expected him to say, like, de fine, give it a go, or like you just something contention. He was pretty He was pretty adamant, like,

why are you asking me? You know what? Good for him? It was exact same thing you said on the show. You had a broken bone in his back. Like it's good. I'm glad good. You should be allowed to be honest about that. It's okay to take a week off if you broke a bone in your back. Yeah. So Nick looks like he disagrees. No, I do agree. He's not gonna put bad tape on of himself out there. I mean, he's not gonna do that. So and he proved that two years ago. But he does have a broken bone

in his he boned in his back. Whatever, it is good. I'm you're right about that. I am glad that he said that. I'm glad he said that. So at ten thirty five today when they asked Jason Garrett, I don't even ask him, right, Skendrick's not playing obviously he's got broken As he says that he's not in. He doesn't feel confident. Stephen Jones actually said Monday too. He was like, ah, man, it's probably a stretch to think he'll be ready and right by Sunday. So we're just gonna take a day

by day by day? You good, I'm happy, like I'm glad we can bring a little sanity to the situation instead of being like, well, he's day by day with a broken bone on his back. It took Orlando bringing sanity to the situation for him. Yeah, but that being said, talk to me about the cornerback position and what you expect to happen. I guess the first question to be, who do you expect to be the starter opposite Cheetah bay Uh? Is it gonna be Jordan Lewis or would

it be Anthony Brown? Love it? I know why you laughed, and it's hilarious. It is. It's just funny that like his first real game as a cowboy, and he played. He played really well, no doubt about it. But we're just like, well, who's starting off at him? He's in. Well, here's the thing. He was a starter last week and he didn't do anything to push himself out of being a start. So it's like, it's just funny to be like, well, well, of course he locked that. Obviously Cheeto is gonna be

there to shut down their number one. So who's coming with him? Who is there number one? That's a good question. The Oklahoma kid. He's their slot guy. I mean he doesn't really, he's more of a slotters Harris back. I don't we'll get into Yeah, the Harris Harris is and I are okay, they're they're up many Chris, Dwayne, Oh, who are you talking? I'm sorry, I Dwayne Harris. Lucius Harris, I don't know, I can't. I don't even. I don't even know who lucias random Lucius Harris. I don't even

he played for the Mavericks, like in nineteen ninety. I think I've never heard that name before. You never heard of Lucius Harris. Maybe I have their guy mixed up. I think he played for the Mavericks like Nathan Harris. He's still on the team, Devin Harris. There's a Lucius Harris, Long Harris State, Long Beach State. Lucius Harris. I think he played about three years for the Mavericks. Thinking you're you're awesome, former New Jersey Net Lucius Harris, You're right, yes, weird,

it is weird. It's so weird. All right, go ahead, Dave well kids like, you're right weird. We're done. We're done with the talking nets. Portion of the best. Sorry, they have a better chance to score points than the giants. Very true. Okay, I think Cheeto will maintain his at cornerback, and I think opposite him, I would probably give the first lumber to Jordan Lewis, okay, as the other star.

As the other Stony Brown gets picks. And then then well, Landy Brown and Jeff Heath are like the same, like they they both get some turnovers now and again the ball kind of finds them. But you know, I'm I'm I'm hoping, I'm open for debate. I mean this, you slide people up in a situation like this, next man up and all that good stuff. So would you rather Jordan Lewis out there and put Anthony Brown in the slot?

Would you rather mix that up? Would you rather put Jordan Lewis out there and maybe Xavier Woods can be your slot guy? That was the next question is who runs? Who is in the slot? You know Xavier Woods has been doing a lot of that, but do you want to have Anthony Brown? Maybe that that because think it's the other way around. I think cornerbacks are like countdowns for TV shows and stuff. You know, you say you count three two one, That's the way it is a cornerback.

I think you have to start with three. You have to start with the slot to see who that's gonna be. Then you start figuring the other two parts out. Unless the slot's going to be a guy that's not a cornerback, well, but you have to figure it out first. I'm not saying he's your best player, but I mean you figure that part out so you can also decide on who goes to the You know, if it is going to be Xavier Woods, that's a lot easier to decide who

the other two corners are. You're also well, you're in a fun situation where the Giants slot guys their best receiver right now. Sterling Shepherd, I mean, Sterling Shepherd and Evin Ingram are like the only weapons that the Giants have, and Evin Ingram has been the most consistent of those because Sterling Shepherd's been out with injury a lot of this time as well. So I mean, take your pick.

Both of those guys play inside. I would imagine Byron Jones will have a role in defending Ingram Xavier Woods too. Probably I would probably put Anthony Brown in the slot and put Jordan Lewis on the outside. That's my guess of what they'll do. And but again, like I always say, like it's it's always an all hands on deck type of situation, Like they don't ever just handle these things with three guys, Like it's five guys playing three positions more often than not. How much do you think this

affects the Cowboys Orlando being out? I know there's some players on this team, they lose them and everything goes goes horribly wrong. Do you think it's one of those situations that do you think this is one where Cowboys

are made to kind of understand this? Yesterday I was talking to someone over on the that area of the building, the coaching side, and not that this is anything new, because we've I mean, everyone that watches the game can obviously see that that their secondary is not the greatest one. But to hear it from someone that's over there and say that they definitely are not happy with any of their veterans. Pretty much overall, the rookies are doing way

better veterans in the secondary. Yeah, So I mean, just to hear that it tells you a lot. I mean, to me, it just confirms or at least it gives you Okay, they are seeing what we see. You know, it's not that they're, um, how would you say this blinded by the situation Because a lot of people, let's say on Twitter and a lot of fans, they think that they don't see any of this and they don't address the situation. But the fact that Orlando is out or will probably be out for this game. I don't

think it's gonna really affect them at all. Not at all. Wow, Okay, it's not. I mean, I'm sorry. You know it will affect them, but I don't think you'll be like, oh, like Sean Lee being out type of It's more a situation of death like that just means that you have one less body, not so much right, right, right, but not necessarily production wise right. I would like to think that if there's a game where you can afford to be shorthanded at corner, it's this one. This is the game.

This is a bad passing attack or it has been all this year, even with Elie back. Yeah, I know, I'm just I'm just clarifying, Like there's been this ground swell of sympathy for Eli since he got banned, and understandably so, but like he wasn't playing well. He has not had a good year, and I we can get into a lot of the reasons why, but you know,

everybody takes him blame in that, including the quarterback. Like it's not just like he's this all pro with no help around him, right, and he hasn't had a great year at all, like their twenty second in the league in passing to go to go back to that point, I'm sure that Orlando would disagree with that. I mean that they're not going to drop off at all with

him out there. But if that really is the case, if the Cowboys think that way and it's not a huge change, then I think you'll you'll see that next year with the players on this team and not on this team. You know, Scandrick was a little bit upset obviously at the draft that they drafted three corners and they signed one free agency and he was thinking he was on the way out and he wasn't that year,

but he might be the next year. You know, if if he really isn't missed that much when you have all these young guys, then I think it's it would be foreshadowing for next year. Where's his contract? You know, Adam's office, I guess I don't know. I don't know. I just said that because I don't have to. I'm just trying to. I guess the bigger question is if I'm not here, is it does it cost him a

ton of money? And that sometimes dictates whether a guy's here or not is can you afford to make a move on him if he's got two or three more years left on his deal? It may be like h is better just to have him here than pay the money it cost to not have him here. I want to say that he's got a few more years. I want to say two more years left on his deal

after this season. I also want to say that the way it's they, I mean, they've structure these things so they can get out of him after a few years, And especially for a veteran guy like him, I don't think it would be the end of the world if they tried to get like, you know, they're not going to be taken on this absurd amount of money if they were to do that. But I don't know it off the top of my head. Maybe it can help us out here and dead money and twenty eighteen would

be three point eight that's not a huge number. Five, it would be six one this year, three eight, eighteen and one point six and nineteen, So I really, really you probably want to keep him through more. Yeah, I would think. And there's no here's the thing, like, it's kept playing. I don't think he's playing poorly. So so it is exactly the same this year is next year. But five to eight, five to eight, that's not bad

at all. The salaries exactly the same. Um, you know, well obviously it would be the same if the same cap number. So and you know what, if they wanted to do a post June one cut on him, it's one point four, so they could do that, and that makes a little more interesting. But still I don't think you would. Yeah, I don't think. I don't see any reason unless the only reason you would do that, in my opinion, is if the Cowboys opted this year to go back to the well and in the second or

third round get a cornerback. If they do that, then maybe you consider it. But if your cornerbacks kind of stay the same or you get like a late round cornerback, you know, six seventh round, I don't think you would make that move just yet. But I mean if you stay I mean I could easily see him just dropping down.

It's one of the we're talked about, is the way that these rookies have been tackling and the way they go about it and the energy, and I mean it makes sense their rookies, you know, young guys are eager to play and show what they can do. So obviously there's gonna be a difference there. But if they're doing

a better job, then that's who you're gonna play. Yeah, and that's great for the two rookies, and maybe that creates I think that's a good point, because maybe it creates a situation where Skeandrick just becomes your nickel guy and he's just playing in the slot. But I do have a little bit of pause about Anthony Brown. I mean, he played really well last year, but that also could be because expectations were where they were for sixth round

picking his first year. So I'm not certain that I feel comfortable with the idea that Anthony Brown's gonna regularly be my slot. Until I started to see him get a little better. I would say right now, you'd still want to Orlando here, even if those rookies become your starters, your primary starters, right, yep. You know, I'm looking at his contract that from two fifteen to nineteen, so those five years there, I guess they give him a five year extension. Yeah, I mean it was very friendly for

him and for the team. I mean his cap numbers. Think about this from a five year cap numbers four point three, four point four, five point two, five point two, five point six. I mean, usually a five year deal you see first two and then it balloons up, or three and it balloons up. This is a legitimate five year extension that they gave him, And I mean I could see him probably finishing this out as long as he plays pretty well. And I think he's if he doesn't bark too much when it comes to some of

these other guys playing over him. But they got to beat him out too. Yeah, he is super far down the list of things that I think are wrong with the defense. I agree, But I do think this. I think this is gonna be an interesting month, whether they're

in the playoff contention or not. Knock on wood. If Cheeto and Lewis specifically or stay healthy through the whole time, that's gonna be four games of them probably getting their most snaps of the season, and we'll see how they response to It's you know, it's that the age old football thing where if they have a bad month, you go into twenty eighteen like, oh, secondary is a problem. And if they have a great month and just play awesome, you're like, we're good at corner, We're set here, we're

looking great. They're gonna take the step in twenty eighteen and they're gonna be Pro Bowlers like that type of thing. So this will this will be interesting. I really, especially Cheetoh, I hope he can stay healthy enough to really put you know, three or four if games on tape. If he does that, Let's say he plays like he did in the Washington game. He'll have some plays where he gives up something here and there, and you know, they got the Raiders come in. They like to throw the

ball down the field. But let's say plays really well at corner, no consideration at all to move him to safety. Like you feel like, if you got a good corner, keep him at corner. We'll figure out safety. I think the premier position is corner. And there was a time when the Cowboys were pretty static well, they had a lot of bodies at corner. They don't have that anymore, and they got to be thinking about the future. I think drafting him where they did, if he is a

good cornerback, you leave him at cornerback. Yeah, I agree with that. And what if they decide that thirty one is not a safety needs to play some corner. I think that should have no bearing on what you do with Cheetah Bay because if if he is a better corner, keep him at corner and replace the safety. Like if you if you don't think thirty one can play, replace him, put somebody else there. But that doesn't mean you gotta

move somebody else. That sounds good. You lose a game or two, you're gonna you already, you guys already said you're not gonna be willing to give him the You're not you're not gonna take the option. No, so he's gonna stay out anyway, right Yeah, well mostly, I mean you never know, right, I know, there's some things that the deal here afterton right now, you guys don't think

that he's worth the option. So my point is, don't move Cheeto out just because you're trying to find a place for him when he's not in your future plans. If that's what the Cowboys are thinking, right, But if the if the Cowboys don't, you know, run the table here, if they lose a game and get out pretty much out of the playoff rates, I would probably move Cheeto to safety just to see, just to see if he could maybe that is a better position. But let's say this.

Let's say he plays He's played pretty good at corner right, and let's say he goes to safety, he plays pretty good at safety. Then what do you do? Then? I then I had to go into free agency and the draft, probably figuring out which player I need, and then I will move him accordingly. After that, if he looks like he can be a player at cornerback, I'd rather have him there. And you know, I think it's easier to

find good safeties when you have good corners. I think Jacksonville's safety play probably has a lot to do with how good their corners are. Boy and Jalen Ramsey. I just it's harder to find cornerbacks, I think, So I agree with Yeah, I can't agree with that because the last good one was Woodson, So I can't agree with It's it's easier to find a safety when's the last good cornerback. Like when you win, you when was the last time you draft a cornerback that Turner took? Great one?

I mean all right, I mean I mean yeah, But Orlando, I mean Orlando has probably been the best that you've had at cornerback in the last fifteen years. Maybe yeah, I don't know. So, I mean you've had one, so it's really not a big difference. It's hard to find it. However, you have drafted one that made the Pro Bowl that in Orlando has not. Mike Jenkins New Year. I forgot about Mike. Well, it's like everybody's had one year. Yeah, Mike had one year. He did and then it just

kind of didn't, you know, hold off. The holy trinity of football is pass rusher, quarterback, cornerback, right, maybe left tackle. But and if if you can find it, if if you think, and this is way early to make these kinds of declarations, but if you get to a point where you think Cheeto has an opportunity to be a really good cornerback, I agree with you, Dave. I don't mess with that. I keep him at cornerback. I let him keep getting better in the hopes that I get

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John Deer Dealer dot com. Slash football terms, conditions, exclusions, and warranty limitations apply, so you can you love for details. Back to the Break Welcome back. It's the second segment of the Break Life from the s WBC mortgage studios at the Star were talking cowboys and Giants. Dave, Yeah, go scouting report on the Giants offense. They suck. All right, let's move on, beautiful. I'm sad that headbad music under it. That would have been to give us another one more time,

take two. They suck because you didn't set him upon whatever, you didn't set him up. Now we're just trouble. Wouldn't get too comfortable. Let's I mean, obviously it's here we go amber, it's the NFC, It's the NFC East. Like the least surprising thing ever would be if these guys came out with their you know, hair on fire and

beat the cowboys like that just wouldn't surprise me. But this is just I Actually, while I was doing research for this, I saw a tweet from somebody up Giants way that Jerry Reese who just got fired as the general manager from two thousand, like ten to twenty thirteen, which you know, the guys you draft in that range should probably like make up the bedrock of your team. You know, you're thinking Travis Frederick, Shawn Lee, des Bryant,

those types of guys. Tyrn Smith, there's like two two of his draft picks from that ranger still on the team. Like they just just haven't draft. They had a bad run. They really did, had a really bad run, and they've had really bad luck with injuries. To your point, Dwayne Harris is on IR, Odell Beckham is on IR, Brandon Marshall is on IR, weston Richberg, they're starting centers on IR. Yeah, fourteen guys on IR right there. They have so many guys on IR, I are yeah, or just the injury room. No,

I think they got fourteen fourteen guys on IR. These these This is my printer friendly depth chart. If you're not watching, it's I always print out the other team's depth chart. It goes to two pages because there's so many guys on IR. Yeah. Um djer quality Art Yeah, uh yeah, he played some guard. Um. So meanwhile, the guys that are there also aren't great. Eric Flowers I think he is the whipping well, you want to talk about Chaz Green eric Flowers. That's the difference is that

Eric Flowers was draft top ten, top fifteen. They got John Jerry just journeyman free agent playing left guard. They got Brett Jones, who's like their third option playing center. My favorite one. This I from Alabama. I'm pretty sure. No, that was Barrett Jones. Sorry, everyone loved that guy. Yeah, I don't know. I don't even know if he's in the league. Barrett Jones, he was out center. He was like an All American at Alabama when they were winning.

I mean they still are, but he won, wasn't he The guy had some issues off the field, definitely not. He was like a boy scout. Okay, it doesn't matter. Um. Justin Pugh, who's actually one of Jerry Reese's like few good draft picks from recent years. He's been hurt. He's missed the last two games. Chad Wheeler. I want this guy playing on Sunday because he's bad. He's had to go style, he's had to go against Khalil Mack and Ryan Carrigan in the last two weeks, and he doesn't

know what to do with himself. Like, so you're saying to Marcus, Marcus Lawrence will have five sacks if this guy's plays like That's what I mean. He just isn't good. So both their tackles are bad. So what I'm well, when I'm keeping an eye on Justin Pugh, he's gonna be on the injury report this week. I don't know off the top of my head what his injury is, but I'm no offense to him. I don't want him to play because I think that would be big for the Cowboys. Um, you got Red Ellison and Evan Green

Ingram playing tight end. Ingram is he's this dynamic receiver. He looks like he's going to be a really good players. Missies would drop balls this year in certain stretches as well, though, But I would argue that he's the only guy that they can throw the ball too. A ton of getting like he's dropping him because they're throwing him so many, like he's tired. He's a good player. Yeah, red Ellison's they're blocking tight end. To answer Nick's question, Sterling Shepherd

plays mainly in the slot. They're outside receivers are Roger Lewis and Tavarus King, which Mars Gang he's pun of right, that's no Marquette Um. Roger Lewis was like in a roster battle. I remember, like you know, I keep an eye on the NFC teams during the during training camp, like he barely made the team and now he's one of their starts, a practice squad guy that pushed up or was not. He was just like he was like in the mix that last fifth receivers. So you know, yeah,

special teams. Yeah, um, I mean Beckham and Marshall have been on I ar since like September. If you take so Odell Beckham had three touchdowns I want to say, in like five games or however many games he wound up playing. So how um, how many receiving touchdowns do you think that active Giants wide receivers have right now? Two four, Tavarus King has one, Shepherd has three. That's it, Like there's just not a lot ingram leads. Was it

all rookies in with six touchdowns? I believe so? I mean I think that that's receiving yards and and this is just all rookie tight ends. Yeah. Not this week. It looks it looks like it was a really good pick. My argument to that would be like maybe maybe you'd be better off overall and not fired right now if they'd done what everybody in the league said they should do and drafted a tackle instead of a tight end.

I mean, I don't know, just an idea. Maybe Eric Flowers could be playing on the right side, and you could have Ryan Ramchick, who is killing it for the Saints right now. Maybe he could be your left tackle. I don't know, Um Orleans, Darkwa, Shane Vereen kind of your scat. I mean, they're right, I cannot you see why they have to win. I will can't lose. I'm gonna steal this. I'm gonna steal this talking point from broadest. But Wayne Gallman is a guy that I'm interested in.

Oh are you? I thought he got I thought he was getting more playing time and then all of a sudden he just kind of fell off the map. He's a fourth round pick like that. He gets on the field sometimes. But they love Darkwa, and I mean, I'm not saying he's a bad player, but i'd rather I'm always I always want to see what the rookie can do. Yeah, So Eli Manning's back this week, which again he's Eli Manning. I know that definitely not writing him off, but like

he's having a bad year. There their twenty second in passing offense, They're thirty first in scoring offense fifteen point eight points per game, fifteen point eight points per game, and Eli has fourteen touchdowns and seven interceptions on the year. I looked up, so I went back and watched the Redskins game on Thanksgiving because I wanted to see a game with Eli. I don't really care about watching Geno Smith play. Nobody else did either. Here are their possessions

by play against the Redskins. Three plays, five plays, three plays, five plays, sixteen plays, three plays, four plays, three plays, three plays, three plays, four plays, three plays quick strike offense right there. Yeah, absolutely, This sixteen play drive ended in a field goal. So here many yards they get on that drive? It was like seventy something, okay, And so I'm like, I'm going through the breakdown and I'm like, wait, where's the touchdown? They finished with ten points. It was

a pick six by Genorris Jans. It's I mean, again, it's the NFL. It's a division rivalry, but like these not only are they bad, but they're like it's like they're leading. It's the Redskins. Plus they're just not good like they I mean, they're not good. None of their players are there and they're good. They're players that are there aren't having great years. The difference between them and the Redskins is they've lost a ton of players at one position, as well as their overall best player like

Odell Beckham. In the same way that that this team finds it hard offensively to move the ball without Zeke, that team would find it extremely hard to move the ball. You don't think the Redskins have lost players at one position, all of them. I mean, yeah, well offensive, they're offensive line, I mean, but but they haven't lost I don't think they've lost players that are like game change. I don't think they've lost players that change the complexion of their teams.

Like the best offensive player they lost was Chris Thompson and that happened two weeks ago. I think it is so, you know, I think it's a little bit different. I think they when they're off, when their receivers got just decimated in the first week two weeks right, I think it was the first week or second week of Marshall and Beckham have been gone since September right, and they both went out the same game. Correct, I don't remember, but I'm pretty sure they both went out the same game.

Dwayne Harris may have been Yeah, Dwayne Harris may have been out in the same game as well. Yeah, And so they got depleted early and it was, in my opinion, the best player on their team. Ed Egan still on their team. That's a good question. He's not on the too deep Egan. I know it's been a long time since the first game of the season, but ye, consider looking at all the guys are injured, how different is this team to the one they had at the beginning

of the season. Um, it's I mean, that's a good question, and honestly, like skill position wise at least a little. I mean, they had Marshall, they didn't have Beckham for that game, right, all the all the running backs are still the same, quarterbacks the same And honestly, I was gonna say to Nick's point, Yeah, Justin Pugh has been hurt and they've had some problems at center, but four fifths of their like first day offensive line is in play. If Pew plays, it'll be four or the five that

are so well. The Cowboys are kount of facing The one big exception, and we'll talk about this tomorrow is Genors Jenkins, who had if memory starts correct, he was one that was guarding Diz in that game, and traditionally Diz hasn't had great performances against Genors Jenkins. So that, to me is probably the biggest difference between the Cowboys offensively. I'm sorry the Giants stand Gions now. Offensively, it's not that different there. I mean, well, they're just they're so

depleted at wide receiver. Yeah. I mean even in Week one they still had Brandon Marshall, who but they didn't have Beckham and he didn't do much that game, did he Marshall? No, he didn't do anything. Yeah, they scored three points, right. I think his first catch came with like a minute and a half left in the game. I thought it was like third quarter, it was. It was that what he ended up with just one one two catches one or two catches for like fifteen yards.

I like it was a story that Cheeto actually played him really really well. And then they got hurt. You know, got hurt. Um They're not that different. They've lost, but I mean they just have they have there's just No, there's nobody here that like gets your heart racing in terms of like they gotta watch that they have a new coach. Yeah, And I was gonna say, like, do you think how much do you think dat affects things?

Because you're you're going to see something different, because usually when a new coach comes in, even if it's just just a renewed kind of all right, let's just go and play, it'll be it's something changes. And when things change sometimes that can create it'll be an interesting crowd. I think, you know, I think because they're they're loyal to ELI, I think you'll see a ton of giant number ten jerseys. And you know, I think that they wanted macadoo gone for a while. So you know, this

guy comes back in its nulo. He's been their DC. Yeah, he's in the past. He's been a hit coach in the past. Yeah, I mean he had their d and yeah, so he they like him, and you know, I'm sure their defense hasn't been that great either, but I mean there's something to be said for the Yeah, like I bet they'll be loose and liberated and yeah, liberated. Maybe they like don't personally hate McAdoo. I don't know, but like just Louise, yeah, I mean they'll they'll probably be

up for this. But even at six and se you know, Like I have joked around with Nick all week leading up to the Chargers game. He's like, the Chargers are four and six, and I'm like, we're four and five. We're five and five. Like, let's not talk about the Cowboys like they're great. But wait, wait, wait I that was my retort to this, Philip Rivers is the greatest thing I know, but ad retort because they are better than that. But I was like, botha ingram, I'm like,

they get beat I mean somebody's beating them. Yeah, but some I got my retort to your retorts that somebody's beating the Cowboys with regularity as well. Um, but even at six and six, significantly better roster than theirs, I think it should be. So that's that's where I'm at. You're not buying this, are you? No? Like you? I don't. I'm not trying to be a pessimist or anything or be negative. I'm not. But I'm a realist. No, I'm a dreamer. I don't know it all over the place.

But here's the thing, here's the thing. I really think that the Cowboy should definitely win this game. But I wouldn't be too deceived on what the Giants have been doing this season. I mean right now, Yes, it could have go with a new coach, it could be it could go either way. It could either go really bad how it's been going for them, or it could get

really good. I mean, with the whole thing that happened with Eli this whole week, this past week, I think that the reaction around the locker locker room for him his teammates, that creates us special bond and a different energy that I think it could really change this whole thing for this specific game. They could go in feeling completed. And it doesn't matter how bad you've been. Sometimes even bad play, I mean something that's not hasn't been good.

Even if you're not good, you're gonna have a good game once in a while. And so this could be the time and the Cowboys again. Going back to the first of the first game of the season. Um, I remember I said that I the Cowboys didn't play well against them. They did win, and everyone was like, oh yeah, we bait the Giants. Okay, calm down, like it. Look at the game, they weren't that great. They were and

said it wasn't that great. I still like, even knowing everything I know now, you dominate a division opponent, let them and only allow three points. Like, I'm not gonna dog on you for how you played. No, it wasn't the prettiest game of the year. Well, yeah, they won, they beat them, they beat them decisively. What if if we after Week two the Broncos Cowboys game, and then after the after the game, someone says, one of these teams is six and six, one of these teams just

three and nine. After what the Broncos just did to the Cowboys, You're like, damn, I'm only gonna win two more games. Huh. I'm just saying, I mean three and nine. They've lost like eight in a row or something like that. What's going on with them? I don't know how they beat the Cowboys the way they did with the team that they got, But that's knocked the head off of that guy. Yeah, that's what I mean. Amber's right though,

and that you know, I think back to last year. Yeah, we're talking about like the Browns game yesterday, and you're like, if you're a good team, should be able to beat a bad team on the road. Like, they're not a good team. The Cowboys are not a good team. They're a mediocre team. They're exactly what their record says they are. So I mean, they're a good team with that, with that in your hand right there. But when you put him down, him right, so, let's put them This is

radio sounds kind of weird. I'm it's holding a little Yeah, bobblehead or bobbleheads all that. That race has gone because you ripped it off. Are they had good team with him? Yes? Yes, I think they're good a good team. Yes, they're a good football team. They're not they're better than mediocre. I don't know if they're good. They're a good football team with him. They were five and three when they had him, And that's a good football team in today's NFL. That's

not good. That's gonna get you. That's that's probably gonna get you somewhere around ten and six, eleven and five, five and three, get you to ten and six. I thought they did some good things. Now you're just hitting buttons. He's a good football player, Okay, just hit them all. I mean, that's a good football team. In today's NFL. I think that's a good football team. Yeah, I wish we think you know that they were playing well, they were playing, they were on a roll against eat the Chiefs.

Look at that. Yeah, Chiefs who have lost six to their last seven and the one in ten forty nine or yeah, but do you think they would have You think they would have beat Do you think they would have beat the San Diego Chargers if they had Ezekiel Elliott Calkins, Probably maybe they would have. I think they

would have gone two and one and those three. Okay, So so if they would have gone two and one, then to me three that means you're a good team with Ezekiel Elliott And you're probably why aren't we arguing there? Because you made the point, is it a good enough team to win the Super Bowl? I don't know that?

And that the reason why I don't know. The reason why, the reason why I don't think anybody can say that is because what you know about the NFL is what you see during that time of the year really has no bearing on what you're gonna see in the postseason and who's gonna win the Super Bowl. We've seen that play out numerous times where team gets in as fifth or succeed as a wild card and ends up in

the Super Bowl and wins. SOT who you're matter, No, it's seriously, you don't know right now, No one knows. Homer mcboss man over here, No one knows. No one really knows. All right, let's take our final break. We'll come back. We're gonna get some questions. Calls two one four eighty seven to twenty one two again two one eight seven two twenty one oh two, and we'll take questions. We'll be right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot com. Radio.

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and you say, yeah, give me some draws. If you have that, give some draws and do it. It was interesting. That was a very interesting thing. Wouldn't have been so it wouldn't have been that interesting if it wasn't day three of trading camp. You know already, how do you run out of underwear on day three? I just think it was probably a stack that just didn't get put in the suitcase, right. I doubt it, just like I

doubt it. It's okay, I doubt it, Derek, if you're thinking about getting me anything for the holidays, not you've bought me stuff before you bought me. You bought me a really nice LSU sweatshirt one time. That's true, you did that. Do you do you think you really have been good enough this year for me to buy you anything? Yes? Maybe good in what sense? It was nominated for two any sense? Just give me a sense. I'm gonna dominated for two for two Emmys. I do like six different jobs.

You didn't win, and like other people only winning the showing only winners, only winners, because presence that's what my dad's too. Well, my parents never used to get not good enough just to get nominated. You got, Amber's gonna get the LSU sweatshirt. Kent's gonna get purple. No hate purple. Why do you hate purple? It's a long story, Love purple, live gold. Amber. I grew up in a very political family in the Miniican Republic, and the opposing party was okay,

and our flag was white. So it was just like that wasn't that long at all. Everybody gets at it, yeah, summarized. It didn't a the word deceived that she said, I'm not going to be deceived by this team or this or the Giants team. That's how they get you that. You just remember everybody all excided with the Cowboys beat the Chiefs. Well, the Giants also beat the Chiefs. It was an uglier game, but they did beat them in New York. I wouldn't say, I'm you're not going to

be deceived by the Giants. You're deceived by the Cowboys. The Giants are bad. They are who they are. They're objectively bad. Are you deceived by the Cowboys looking as good as they did last week? Or do you think they can do that again? That's the issue here. They're the ones that have been up and down. Giants have been just down. You know who they are? Ready? I mean, yeah, they did beat the Chiefs without scoring a touchdown? Yeah right, Well, I'm glad you skipped over asking us what one thing

we were excited to think of one? Not really? I mean, yeah, Ingraham, we'll do some things and Eli last week ain't got him down. Let's see how Sterling Shepherd does with I mean, we were talking about cornerbacks at the top of the show. Be interesting to see how he does with you know, Scandrick's not there, and they're gonna be asking somebody that they weren't previously asking to do that job. So yeah, so we didn't have a good well, the Cowboys didn't have it for a good first half of the game

last week against the Redskins. Do you guys feel that, Yeah, offense, not defense obviously, but their offense. So you guys feel that offensively they're gonna be able to keep this going. And now they were able to get into rhythm after that second half. No, I hope Garrett doesn't either, because when he wins the toss, when when Witten says tales and the call is tales, we defer. That's what's going to happen. That's my crazy prediction already, that they're going

to defer. What do you think that is crazy? I'll have to see it to believe it. But at this point, are you are you just telling your offense okay, because he's always said it, right, we believe we're gonna get the ball, we're gonna go score. Are you not telling him? I don't believe we're gonna go score. I mean, you could be saying I'm tired of seeing teams score at the end of the half and at the first of the second half, tired of seeing that happen. Redskins didn't

do that though. The Redskins score at the end of the half, but I don't believe they came back and scored right away, no eye everybody else has. That was actually that was big, Like they gotta stop coming right out of half. I was like, hey, okay, that that was a difference from the three previous games where Atlanta, Philly and the Chargers went down the field and scored, and most of them had scored right before the half as well. That's the and you know, all credit to them.

They won by twenty four points, but I don't like the offense didn't get its mojo back, like they threw for one hundred and two yards and Alfred Morris was a running game. And well even that though, I felt like it really came on in this It was a classic case of wearing them down. Right. It's not like it not, It's not like it was just punching on all cylinders from the get. You just keep doing it and eventually they wear it down. That though, and I

don't think that's a bad thing. I think that's and that was gonna be The way I answered that question from Amber is no, I don't think they come out and they're just lighting it up in the first half. But if they play the way that they played last week, I think there there. I think what they were trying to do last week was as the game kept going,

they were gonna stay committed to the running game. And even in the second half, it seemed like they doubled down on the running game and that's when you started to see those three yard runs turned into five yard rounds and six yard runs. It's because he kept pounding at him. So I expect maybe to see the same thing until Ze comes and maybe there's been some little spark there with Dez. Dez did make a play, went up and you know, showed the things that he can do.

He can go up and get and catch the football, and then the second time he had to be interfered with or he's probably gonna do it again, So maybe they can get some kind of rhythm there. You know, this crew that they're gonna face, I know it's been well documented. The crew that did the Pittsburgh Cincinnati game that called seventy three flags, they're gonna do this game. They're gonna do that and they call a lot of penalties.

So I don't know if that's good or bad, but I guess I just think the conditions that set the offense up to for favorable results last week were all brought about by fantastic special teams in defensive play, like are you in position to pound the rock like that? If Ryan Switzer doesn't put you up by ten points I mean, or if you don't get an interception off

of dropped probably touchdown by Jamison Crowder. I mean, he probably takes that to the one, if not into the end zone, if he doesn't let it bounce off his hands. And so now you're talking about it, I think it would have been a tie game instead of the defense getting away from that with no points. And I'm not taking that credit away from them, like they did it.

They deserve all the credit in the world. But can you count on them to be plus four and turnover differential and score special teams touchdown because I think that's what ultimately led to the offense having the success it did. I don't know if you're just starting from scratch zero zero, or you know, if you're down seven nothing, like is it going to be the same, and I'm not convinced

based on what we saw that it will. So yeah, I would love to see them defer, especially with Sean Lee back, maybe lean on the defense a little bit more to help put them in favorable positions. I know that sounds weird, but but this is a good week to do it. Like that offense is struggling, and yes, Jazz struggled all year, even at the beginning of the season. If this defense should be able, if there's an offense that you should be able to get off the field,

it's this one. Yeah, especially with Sean Lee. But do you think the line is on this game? Do you know if I had guess, like Cowboys minus three, three and a half, I would say Cowboys minus five, Yeah, something like that. What four? Not us four? Okay, yep, guys are all over it. That sounds about right. And on the road, it's a pretty decent, pretty decent line for the Cowboys, So that that says there a touchdown favorite, right, really, but you get three points for home field, so yeah,

it sounds about right. Yeah, all right, let's get a phone call. We got a call from Rob in Vegas. Rob, what up? Hey, guys, Hey, the lines four and a half. Right now, Oh you would know, yeah, right, you know we're visiting Scandric. I had enough for Scandric. He for some reason, he carries himself like Dion. Guy has eight interceptions in one hundred and thirty games. I think it's time to move on from him. I think he's just average, and he doesn't tackle, and I think he'll be a

progress stopper for somebody else. I think it's time where he had enough for him. I have one thing I would like to see this team stop doing. In the draft. They got a bad habit. They loved the draft guys who are good at multiple positions. I don't like that. Get me a guy who's great at one position. You know, I think that hurt Byron Jones. Was he a safety, was a corner. He's not a safety. He's not physically

built for a safety. I think if they would have kept him at corner, I think maybe he could have been something. Now I think I agree with you guys. I think he'll be gone. Keep Cheeto at corner. I mean maybe I'm blind. You know, he played one game, but keep him there. Let's see what happens. He's built for it. And it looks like a pretty stout guy. My question is who's quicker, Anthony Brown or Xavier Woods?

Because that's who I would play at the slot. These crossing routes have been killing us all year, and to me, pick one, where is the quicker one? That's who I want to play the slot? All right, thank you? I think that's that's a really good point. It's and it's I think he articulated it. I've been thinking something along those lines, but I didn't know how to articulate it.

Which is I think I think that Xavier Woods probably has better football instincts right now, or at least he seems like he does based on what we've seen from him. But Anthony Brown just has the pure skill set to play a position like that, and he's quick and really fast like Xavier Woods. I mean, he's an NFL player,

but he doesn't have that. He doesn't look like he has that just next level type of speed or quickness that you expect to see from somebody like a slot corner, which is why I think I lean more toward Brown playing there. But he's he's got some kind of skills though. An the ball, He's got that knack he definitely does. He's got instincts, he's got a knack for being around the ball, and that's really important, but maybe more so

at safety or I don't. I don't know. I I agree with him in the sense that I just see Xavier Woods like tray behind receivers on crossing rounds. I'm gonna address the other part. I think when it comes to drafting versatility, I think you can have too much. And I agree with the call that they've they've got some of that. That's good, especially in the later rounds if you have somebody with some versatility that like that

because that's how he can maybe make the team. But when you're talking about higher end players first and second round, I don't know. I don't know if I want to jack of all trades because that guy isn't is they say a master of none And let's see, if we're gonna pick in the first, second, maybe third round, give me a guy that's mastered a certain position. So I agree with that part of the call, and I think it has hurt Byron Jones, and I think it's hurt

some other I think it's probably hurt Chaz Green. Honestly, I think the guard and tackle and back and forth a little bit just to kind of get him on the field. That's it's a slippery slope. Let me ask you this question. Is that also maybe a function of the fact that these guys aren't great enough at one thing that they have to look at them at multiple positions in order to justify. So it's not it's not even just a situation where they're drafting a guy and saying, well,

we're gonna move them around. No, as much it is you put him in one spot and you're like, hey, he's all right, Let's look at him over here. Yeah, yeah, he's all right. And that's just the function of a guy. No, it's not the Cowboys fault necessarily. I mean, it's it's natural to do that, especially when you get to game day and you only can dress forty six guys and if you have four corners, four safeties, and then you have the guy that can do both, you basically have

ten guys with only nine players. You have ten positions with nine players because you have you know, and that's what Looney is. Looney is a guard center. So that that's why they can dress seven line into a game. Just I get the versatility. It's great, But when you're drafting high like that, I don't I don't know if I want to take a guy in the number twenty second overall or whatever they're gonna pick that can do a little bit of this and that. Just do one thing.

I agree with that. Twenty two. Huh. So they got him making the playoff? Yeah, they're in the place. Cool, No, they're seventeen. They traded down and picked up down the fourth. Got it? All right, let's get let's get one more question from Twitter before we end the show. Do you guys have a feeling that yes, you do? That could be gas huh that feeling? It could be I am spelling something weird, am or asking the question? Get me

David is stop? Sorry? I got my officials on your head. Well, like, how would be successful in the passing game against the Giants this upcoming game? In the passing game? Yeah? No running game in the past. Well, Jenkins isn't planned. So I'm gonna say, what weather look like? What are what are we called? What are we calling? What are we calling successful? What are what what's your what's your threshold for successful over Oh that's a good point because last

week you wouldn't call that successful, would you know? This quarterback? I mean, would you would you call what you said? Dez looked better, right, he had some So would you call it? Would you say that's a successful day for dis Yeah, yes, but over I mean fifty percent one hundred and two yards, I don't know. But but then

go back to week three. I think Dak completes like eighteen of twenty three, only one hundred and seventy six yards, but he had a touchdown in there, maybe two I don't remember off the top of my head, But like I would call that a successful day. Yeah, I want to see him get back to being more efficient. Let's just say limited mistakes. Yes, I'm gonna say, check the ball. I could see this being kind of like one of those like, ah, it didn't look great, but it got

the job done. It's it's gonna be cold. I think I heard there's at least a little bit of chance of snow. There was a chance of snow earlier in the week. I think now it's gone. It ain't gonna be a great forty and high high forty low twenty two. It says Claude was a little bit of sun. No snow. I don't trust that they're gonna you're gonna see favorable passing conditions in New York in December, windy, cold, and so I would imagine there's gonna be a fair amount

of incompletions and a low numbers. But that's not that's not good point. That is a good point. Give me, give me fifteen for twenty good Yeah, fresh around shocky well, also us bad weather for even if you gotta win. I don't think that's bad weather for throwing. And it gets overblown like yeah, I's like if you have a great quarterback. And I'm not saying Dad's bad, but like the way that they play offense, the type of season he's had, I don't see him slinging away for three

hundred yards and condill's. But that's because that's not what they do, right, that's not about the weather. We're just giving the excuse before half. Keep me, help me keep balanced, you know, like if you're gonna run, if you're gonna run for sixty, give me give me like one sixty and no turnovers, and I would call that a success. I'm with you. I would call that a success. Yeah, I want to get it. I want to see his completion percentage get back up into the load of mid

sixties and no turnovers and a touchdown or two. And to me, that's a good day. That's a really good day. All Right, we appreciate you join us back tomorrow. We'll give you a scattering report on the Giants defense, um, and then we'll give you guys, so we'll start talking about more on the game Cowboys versus Giants coming up Sunday at noon. Until then for Nick even, Dave Hellman, Andregarcia. I'm Dereky and this has been the Break live on

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