Cowboys Break: Scouting The Eagles Offense

number seventy six. Welcome to another edition of The Break, Live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. How's everybody doing this morning? Oh? Hey, that probably wasn't. Not a good idea? No, probably not, probably not great? Good? Yeah, yeah, ready for some everybody's doing pretty good here. Talking about the Eagles, Yeah, you're ready? What have they done? Who are they? Who are you? Oh? Still waiting on them to lose tune a row. It's hard to lose tun

a row one. You did mention that? What about week three or four? It always happens. Yeah, yeah, awesome. Saints in two thousand and nine lost a couple in a row. Three, three to be exact, three to be exactly a fan back then, Oh my god. Yeah, hardcore. Yeah he's still he's kind of like, oh he is, yeah, but trying to figure out what to do about this seventh game winning streak. I'm not lying to you. I don't know anything about it other than that Alvin Kamara is having

a good season. And when you liked it anyway from the draft show, right, I did that. I grew up a Saints fan, you know, I like the Saints. I have no time to watch or care about them, Like, I just don't you pull out your fandom Mint Lsu with this. Yeah, I mean the NFL's used to be a big Kansas Jayhawk basketball. I don't have time for that either. I literally I texted Kelsey Charles last night and I was like, we hung out today that like

Ku had this huge game again Kentucky last night. Didn't even loss my mind until I turned on the TV while I was watching Eagles tape and I was like ah, and didn't have to yance to finish watching. I went to bed when there was still like three minutes left, like, wow, I don't care. You just Jay Cutler the whole game.

I'll have time for anything else right now. Man. I got I got like somebody was asking me last night, and they were like, well, if we need a linebacker in the draft, who were some ones that you like? I was like, I don't know. Man like LS she was the only team that I like watch. I'll get into all that when the season's over. I don't. Maybe

that's the point maybe a little early. Oh well, yeah, I mean maybe before the season you get You get my point though, like like, I'm not the busiest person in the world, but I just got enough stuff occupying my time that I don't I'm not gonna go watch Saints highlights in my in my spare time, but that way, Amber, how's it going this morning? Oh well, very well, thanks for asking, Derek. Good good for a life, happy day. I just heard life right, just life, a happy life.

Got it perfectly. I want it, I say, sarcastic in Spanish folder slap that I was gonna say, is it really? I was just gonna say sarcastic, and I was like, don't be a smart right, don't be a smart ass to co that's probably how you say in Spanish. See, got it all right, Let's move on, let's talk to Philadelphia. This is what you wanted. You wanted this stuff now tomorrow. That's gonna be like, welcome to up forty four the Eagles defense. There is no good way to open this show.

Let's just put it that way. There isn't Let's just you just jump right in and just start talking football. Right, That's fine. Let's that's what the fans want. I guarantee you. All right, let's do that. Then let's go directly to football. Let's talk about this Philadelphia Eagles offense. Dave, you have a scouting report for us, go football? Yeah, um, this is a lot like Chiefs Week. I'll pull out the same stat sheet that I did during Chiefs Week and

just go one one. They're They're good. They're good. They're good. Yeah they are. But honestly, you know what, they remind me a lot of the Cowboys, which maybe that shouldn't surprise us. Maybe it should. I don't know. This is the number four total offense in the NFL three hundred and seventy seven yards per game, only fourteenth in passing at two forty number four and rushing at one thirty seven sounds familiar, right, thirty one point four points per game.

They're number two in the league in scoring, only behind the Rams, which let's stop and marvel at that for a second. The Rams are leading the league in scoring, but no, this really does remind me a lot of the Cowboys. Carson Wentz is obviously, it's it's really more it's more centered around Carson Wentz than the Cowboys are centered around Dak Prescott. I think that's fair to say. He's completing sixty one percent of his passes for two

hundred and fifty one yards a game. He has thrown twenty three touchdowns and just five interceptions, which, okay, again, they remind me a lot of the Cowboys, but it's more about the quarterback. They run the ball really well, but they do it with a litany of guys. La Garrett Blunt has five hundred and four yards. Wins is actually their number two rusher with two hundred and eleven. I think with the forty yards that he had against Atlanta, Dak maybe passed him or is awfully close. But they're

very even. Chris Clement has one eighty two, Wendell Smallwood has one sixty eight, and then they just added Jagie who had seventy seven in his first game as an Eagle before the bye. So they're really more committee base. They don't have that one running back that does everything the way Ezekiel Elliott does. Do you suspect that that will change maybe starting with this week, now that they've

got a Gigi, he's a quality running back. They didn't really have a starting caliber, in my opinion, starting caliber every down back before that. A Gie is that kind of guy, right, take me back to when he was coming out of college. Was he projected to be that kind of guy. He's definitely is capable of handling that kind of workload, like he was that guy for Boise State. I think he was that guy in Miami and he's capable of being that thirty carries two hundred yards guy.

The problem is the reason he fell as far as he did, had nothing to do with talent. It was about injuries. He's got a knee condition that scared a lot of teams, including the Cowboys away, and I wonder if the Eagles might go easy on him in the interest of keeping him fresh. So you just work him into the mix more, right, And I mean, you have Lea Garrett Blunt who's not He's not that well rounded. You know, he's not a home run threat by any stretch.

But I mean, he's got five hundred yards, like he's doing the job for them. He's doing just fine. I wonder if maybe a JII will be like a change of pace, Like obviously you're gonna give him his touches, but he only had eight carries in his first game, which I know he just got there, but it was within that week, right, you know That's what I'm saying. I'd still be surprised if they just suddenly just lean on him exclusively, not when they have all these other

talented guys, like they like Chris Clement a lot. He works in the passing game really well. So I think it'll still be committee. You just have one more dangerous option in that committee. But anyway, but so you know, there isn't this star running back that it all centers around. It all kind of centers around wins. But for a lot of the same reasons that Dak Prescott works here,

they run a lot of shotgun stuff. They run a lot of I don't want to say zone read because he doesn't keep the ball that often, but it's that you know, read and react to give or pull the ball as the quarterback run a lot of plays out of the shotgun. And if you remember back from the Denver game, which was their last game, you maybe saw a quote where Chris Harris said, you know, they run a college offense. They just run it really well. And I couldn't I take that as a compliment. It's like

they run this offense really efficiently. A lot of people took it as like a dig, like, oh, well, it's a gimmick. I don't really think of it as a gimmick. They're just running concepts that help their quarterback a lot like and they're doing it really well. So like you see a lot of the zone read type stuff. You see a lot of like it, like RPO's run pass options where you know Dak will run this stuff in the red zone where you look you see you know,

look the end either give to the running back. If you don't give it to the running back, you have one read and it's it's there for you. You know, that type of stuff where you're just making it easy on him. I don't he's capable of doing it, but I don't see him doing a lot of like reading both sides of the field. He doesn't usually need to, like he's usually got one read that's there if he doesn't give it to the running back, and you know, and he's capable of progressing if he needs to, but

I would argue that he doesn't usually need to. Another thing that they like to do is use his athleticism against the defense. They move the pocket a lot, like I mean, where he's running as soon as he's got the ball left or right and he's got to read. He did that against Denver where he takes it, fakes the toss and he's already on the run. Chris Harris falls for it and Alshan Jeffrey's a yard behind him by the time he lets go of it. So he's six five and no offense to Carson Wentz. But like

I think he's just a dorky looking dude. But he's like, don't let him fool you. Like he's very athletic, Like he's an athletic quarterback. Like I said, he's got two hundred rushing yards and big and strong. Different I mean, like, I don't know if there's a quarterback in the league outside of Cam Newton who is his big maybe Ben Roethlisberger who's this big and hard to take down as Carson Wentzes. But like, I mean, he's not Cam Newton,

nobody is. But he moves more like Cam than Roethlisberger. Like, he's not this lumbering guy like he's He's an athlete, but a big athlete, I guess is the point, very hard to take down more than Cam too. His throwing is a lot closer to Roethlisberger than Cam or any other. What he's saying, he's a much more accurate past and much better arm. Yeah, he's got a big arm. Yeah, but he's not. I mean that's Cam's weakness is that

he is not that accurate all the time. But I'm just this guy could run sort of like him, but throws a lot better than him. That's scary, I would argue, And you know he's looking at me like that. I don't know if I agree with all that, but we'll get to that on Cam Panthers Week if we ever have it. Yeah, Panthers Week next year or playoffs. Okay, he's got a big arm and they are definitely capable

of big plays. I don't know, if you watch the Panthers game they played on Thursday night where he just cock back, I mean he hit Mack Hollins and stride for like sixty eight yards is really impressive throw just in terms of his arm strength. But like, I don't think of him as like this big playoffense a lot like I say about the Cowboys, Like I don't necessarily think they're always looking for that. Like you have Alshon, Jeffrey and Nelson Aglo are averaging like thirteen fourteen yards

per catch, but it's a lot of comeback routes. It's a lot of tight end action. Zach Ertz as their leading receiver. You see him and Brent Selik either moving across the field or out in the flat. A lot like the big play threat is there, but that's not their bread and butter. Like it's really a lot more like I said, multiple options, I would are. I would guess like the vast majority of the stuff they run

has a run pass option in it. It's like a lot of misdirection, a lot of catch the defense off guard, and not necessarily just bombing away. One of the most interesting things though about that particularly is their top four receivers right now are all averaging above twelve yards per catch. Yeah, you guys Arts averaging twelve point three. Jeffrey's averaging fourteen point seven yards. Aglare's averaging fourteen point eight yards and

Tory Smith's averaging fourteen point seven yards. And right now they're second in the league in average yards per reception at thirteen. So they don't have it may not be center around big plays, right, they certainly are getting chunk plays regularly. And this offense I would throw in there. Mac Hollands, the guy I just mentioned. He's a rookie

out of North Carolina. He's Ryan Switzer's teammate. I think he has less than twenty catches on the year, Like he's not he's not even close to their top option. But he's averaging nineteen yards per catch. Lay. He scares me because I bet you they'll try to get him behind this secondary at some point in the game. The Cowboys really liked him coming out of the draft. He was a special team yeah speak well, yeah, he speak out. He's really a special teams guy coming out of college.

He's gonna help on special teams and help some in the receiving game. And it's just funny how they they went for Switzer. They're all, you know, gung ho on that, and this guy, would you say, doesn't have twenty catches. I think it's like sixteen. Oh well, that's fourteen more than Switzer. I don't know how many Switzer has one or two? Not many? Not many? I mean, and he hasn't contributed as much as like Switzer was the guy that was supposed to contribute, and Hollands they didn't know

if it'd have a good role for him. Amazing how that works sometimes. Um, a couple of notes. Uh, I don't want to pronounce this name, but big big v uhatai vitai Uh can you guess that he is of Pacific Island descent? Um? Do see somebody that are? They call him Big V. So let's oh my god, press box since he's gonna get five iterations of his oh yeah, our press box. Guys die like he's gonna die. Well, he's playing left tackle, so how many topfull? You don't

have to say? Many times you have to say is yeah? You don't have to ever unless he gets hurt, he's your he's your left tackle in place of Jason Peters who blew out his knee. And they will ever say that. Um, but there, I mean, he's any good. How does he play?

He's only played I think he's played two games since since Peters was hurt, and I mean, which is you know, people are in my mentions whining about it, like, obviously you'd prefer to have Jason Peters, but he hasn't had a game like Chaz greenhad against the Falcons, like he's he's gotten the job done to this point. I think it's probably something you can still try to take advantage of. Especially this doesn't seem like something Rod Marinelli would do,

but Lane Johnson's a pretty damn good right tackle. I wonder if they try to put DeMarcus Lawrence on the left side or on his right side on the left tackle to try to take advantage of that doesn't seem like something Rod would do, but I would consider it um. And then they got Brandon Brooks from Houston over the offseason, and Jason Kelsey's one of the better centers in the league. So they're they're offense pretty solid, and they seem to

be handling not having Peters fairly well. I saw that they just I thought, I just saw that a few minutes ago that they signed a tackle. They did. They signed Will Beatie Yeah, uh, he of New York Giant Face Yeah, which I feel like he's been retired for more than No, he had. He definitely was retired, but like, it's not like he retired this year. Like I think he's been out of football for at least a year, or he played with jimbo Elliott, I mean at the Jets.

He was on those Super Bowl teams, I know, at least one of them. Um, but I don't I think that's a depth thing. I don't think they're looking at him to be in the starting lineup, at least not right away. So it's interesting, all right, It's a it's like did I read Yeah, they're I mean fourth in total offense, fourth in rushing offense. That's scary when you think that Sean Lee's probably not going to play in this game. Yep, that's the most scary part of it. Actually,

I was going to ask you that question. If you look at this offense, what's the most dangerous part of the offense? Um, obviously talk about the rushing game, But what's the most dangerous thing that the Cowboys will really have to look out for with this offense? Well, I'm like wins is, he's playing at an MVP level. I know Cowboys fans don't want to hear that, but he's really having a great season. But if Sean Lee's not out there, La Garrett Blunt and Jagie, that scares me

way more than whatever wins might do. We've seen the running back c J. Anderson from the Broncos, We've seen Aaron Jones from the Packers, and Todd Gurley had a monster game. I mean, it's one thing to have a good game, but he had a monster game. Running Backs have not been killing them in this last month, but Lee was out there. And from the time Lee left the Falcons game, It's not like Tevin Coleman took over

the game, but he had some big runs. But they got much better at running the ball when he was out And this these guys are better than Tevin Coleman. Right, So all right, looks like our first break. When we come back, Amber and Nick are going to chime in and tell us what they think is the one thing that stands out about this offense that they think the Cowboys will have to be concerned with. Will do it when we come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. It can be hard to find the right

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the show Life from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. We're talking about the Philadelphia Eagles, and today we're focusing in on the Philadelphia Eagle offense. David given us us the scouting report on them. Now will turn to Amber and Nick. Amber tell us first, what is your one thing that you notice about this offense that stands out to you most? Well, there are many things, but one that I would focus on would be with their red zone scoring. Their ranked

number one. Cowboys defense are ranked number twenty four, So that's a pretty bad matchup right there. And after watching what we saw last weekend, we saw how the Cowboys struggle scoring points. Now with Sean Lena being able to play, which is what is expected, the Cowboys defense is gonna really really need to step up and do whatever they can to stop them from scoring some points because if this guy, if I mean, the Cowboys won't win this game if they score seven points. So that would be

my biggest concern there. Yeah, I was kind of I'm kind of surprised that they're twenty fourth. I thought the defense had done better than that in the red zone. But guess not, you're thinking of blast I am, I am. I'm giving them the benefit of doubt on some things that probably shouldn't be These stats though, too, so many stats are really specific. I mean that there's like average field position on the road, I mean something like that.

So that could be I don't know, that could be a stat of how many points they're scoring in the red zone, and not necessarily a touchdown percentage, because I think when you when you think about three and out and down the red zone, they kick a field goal, you think of that as a win. But sometimes that could be a stat of of how many what's the number for it and us the ranking, what's the actual number?

Fifty eight point six point six. I think that may be the number of time that's that's gotta be a touchdown. Gotta be touchdowns, yeah, okay, red zone scoring, so I mean I'm assuming it is. Yeah, it's gotta be a touchdown. Yeah, we haven't seen that many turnovers in missfield goals to go half the time. Yeah, that's surprising. I thought that. I thought they were a little better than that. Yeah,

me too. But well, I mean when I was looking through it, I thought it was I was running too it a lot sooner and it took me almost to the last page. I'm like, oh my god, Okay, yeah they're pretty bad. It's good. They were great at forcing field goals and uh and um wow, my totally space right there. They were good at red zone defense and bending but not breaking. Yeah, it really hasn't been the case as much this year. And it helps when the other thing I was chunk plays they were great at.

I mean they did they limited plays of you know, twenty or more yards and they haven't been that great at that this year. Yeah. I think that's all by Shaunley if it is, and like that's a you know, that's another thing fans have been harping on. Two. I really can't I really can't argue with him. Is you know, Sean Lee is a great player, but the degree to which it goes in the tank when he's not out

there is it's ridiculous. Frankly. Does it kind of remind you of a couple of years ago and really for a period of time here where when Romo was in the lineup, this team was totally different than when he was out of the lineup. Is it that far? Is it that much? Do you think that's just kind of a narrative gone crazy? It's different for me because I

mean it's it's a quarterback league. You touch the ball on every play like usually you're not going to be as good if your quarterback's not in there, unless you luck into a Dak Prescott. That's just the nature of it, you know. But a line like a defender, I mean, how many times does a defender touch the football in his career? Probably less than a quarterback does in an average game. But um, but I've never seen a drop off, right if any player though more than we saw last

week with Tyron Smith. Well there is that so mean that they just couldn't do anything, They couldn't function at all. Well that probably you guys are probably seeing the same thing. It's really about the difference between the starting guy and the backup guy. And then in this league, there aren't enough quarterbacks to even go around, let alone getting to a second level of quarterbacks where the drop off from your starter to your backup is good enough quality for

you to win. So it's kind of the same thing. You look at the left tackle last week. That's about the difference between Tyron Smith and Chaz Green. It's pretty big. That's we learned. Let even like even last year. You mean, and I know what have you done for me lately, But like we saw this team function and win without Tyron Smith, you know, like they but other than twenty fourteen when Rolando McLean was here and playing at a pretty good level in the middle, Like they just look

incompetent when Sean's not out there. I mean, so, do you think all purpose yards for ty Gurley one hundred and fifty rushing yards or whatever it was from Aaron Jones, Like that's just crazy compared to what they're capable of

doing when he's in there. So when we when we and this is going to switch the conversation a little bit, but when you say that we saw them play last year, okay without Tyren Smith, do you think that maybe the difference here is would you put it more on than not having a Ron Leri at guard or do you put it more on if you had Zeke last last week that maybe you would have been better in the running game. Oh yeah, you would have been way better

with Zeke last week. And so it doesn't matter as so you're not in a situation where you expose Chaz as much. Maybe, but I mean, like it was like it was, he was beaten so badly that I have a hard time even saying that. You know, like, again, we don't need to hash it out all over again. But you're just talking about speed rushes where like he wasn't doing anything special, you know, like it was ridiculous that they didn't run the ball at him. That That's

what I don't understand. Dwight Freeney was a really good rusher back in the day. He couldn't stop the run at all because he didn't want to. They just gassed him right up the middle there, I mean, right right where the space that he would leave. And I just don't understand why they didn't attack that more. He's trying to get up the field and beats Chaz Green. That creates a huge lane, especially when it's this wide nine. They I thought they should have exposed that more and

run right at him. I want to say that happened a couple times and their linebacker was a forty five bon Jones. Yeah, snuffed it out like pretty quickly on both the players that I think. I remember when they tried to do that, and so I don't know that they didn't do it as much as he just didn't work on it. Seems like a lot of the runs to the right, right, right right side everything. Yeah, I don't know. I could always be wrong, and hopefully Tyron

Smith plays in this game. Although I think there's an argument to be made, and Nick brought it up, there's an argument to be made that just deal with it and have Tying back for Thanksgiving and hopefully he really feels better as opposed to rushing it. Regardless, let's say Tyrn doesn't play in this game, I still, like, I'm not saying it will be good, but I just have this strange sense that it won't be that awful again. I mean, like that is a okay, that is a wreck,

and I'm not you get worse than that. You can't. That's the point. You literally cannot in an NFL game. I mean, four guys have ever done that before? You actually cannot do worse than that. So disagree. Now you think what eight? I mean, like, what do you when that guy runs onto the field and he goes like that to the to the ambulance that comes over there

to get your quarterback, who's you have to pick up? Yeah, that could get I'm not talking about the results of I'm talking about like you literally there's only a handful of instances where a tackle performed that badly in the history of this league. That's my problem is that the bars. You know I always talk about expectations is I don't want to be sitting in the press box and filling like you like gave about two and a half sacks. I mean only our two sacks three sacks? Don't he didn't.

He didn't really have that bad of a game. It's just three. That's where the bar is. I'll gladly take two and a half yesterday or Sunday. But that's the problem, Like, well, what do you want to do about it? I mean, move people, move people around, That's what I would do. I would try something else. I just you've already seen it. You don't need to see it again and let a guy hurt. Honestly, I don't know that I have to put your hand on the stove to know it's hot.

I don't know. But I don't know that I've move people around as much as I say, okay, going into this game, how do you help him? Because I don't think Byron Bell from what we saw, I don't think Byron Bell is necessarily an improvement. I think you're probably going to get about the same level of play. I don't know if in this kind of week I want to move my guard over to tackle. I don't know if I want to take my right tackle. I think it's getting better and playing pretty good right now over

to left tackle. So I think you're kind of stuck with what you have, and if Tyron's not going to play, then you go into this game saying, what all the ways that we can give him help. Let's line up a tight end over there, Let's chip him when we can, Like I'm thinking, every down, if I need to, if it gets to that point, every down, how can I give him help? And I will verify, I mean I will, I will do different things to give him help. But that I think you're better option than anything else you got.

Right now, jumbo snap and just put Looney out there with gilt right but he is now you're you're tight in. I didn't even get to finish that thought, which is okay. Nick disagrees with me. That's fine. I at least have some type of optimism that it won't be that bad for the tackles I have. We have a large sample size of proof that suggests that without Sean Lee it won't be any better for the defense. I mean that

that's just the fact that's just a fact. I mean, every time he hasn't been out there this year has not been because they've had Jalen out there for an extended amount of time. And if they were to say, sleck we talked about yesterday, either with Durant or with marsh Lillard or both use them more and still limit the amount of plays that they give to Jalen Smith. I guess we'll see, because I can't fathom how they could justify doing that to Jalen again having seen what

we saw in the first half of the season. Like, I mean, I know, Justin, Justin Durant has his own limit limitations. He's not going to be Patrick Willis out there. But you, I mean, you know what's going to happen when you put him in that situation. I hope they don't do that again. Okay, all right, Nick, what's your one thing, one thing you've seen from this offense that

scares you most? Well? I just I kind of go back to what we've seen the last couple of years, and I think we saw it in the last game of twenty sixteen. Zach Ertz is a problem. Now. He did miss last week's game because of an injury, they're coming off a bye week. If he plays this game.

You know, I thought last year Carson Wentz kind of used him as his security blanket a little bit as he was trying to grow and get better, and those guys kind of developed a pretty good core there, similar to like I guess, kind of you know, Romo and Witten type of thing. So now as they've gotten weapons around him, he's even more of a weapon this year. And you know, you just see last week. You see Austin Hooper making plays there and making some of those

guys look silly. I just think covering the tight end has always been an issue. It's not going to get better if Sean Lee's not out there, just because of all the over compensation they'll have to do. I think that could be a problem all day long. It's just trying to how to figure out zach Ertz because he just moves the chains. He's like, he's almost like a wide receiver playing tight end. It was not to the point of who they faced a couple of weeks ago.

I mean, Kelsey's not like that, but he's pretty close. So to me, it's it's discovering the tight end because that will just dictate all the other things, and before you know what, Nelson Agilar is running fifty yards down the field or something like that. So zach Ertz stopping him is gonna be a problem. He does lead the team in receptions, yards and touchdowns the Eagles. That is wow. Yeah, and he missed last week. So so here's the question, you guys think this is a tougher matchup. I know

that their offenses. Their offenses are comparable when you look at the rankings, but do you think this is an easier or tougher matchup They're trying to match up with the kansasy each I think this is a tougher matchup because when you hit Alex Smith, he's gonna go down pretty much if you hit him, and he's quick and he can move around, but you can get him to

the ground. The problem with wins is that you can just jump rodle on his back and hit him in the waist and he's still gonna touchdowns and throws him. He had one a few weeks ago against the red Skins. I believe where his feet were were off the ground. You know, he jumped and got hit at the same time and threw a perfect pass to a running back. I don't remember who caught it, but it was perfect play. I was like, I think that was Clement. Actually, yeah,

we didn't touchdown. Yeah, it was a really great play. I was like, this guy, I don't have to deal with him for decade. I don't think the Eagles, uh, I don't think their skill players scare me as much as the Chiefs do. Really, I don't think so. I mean they like, I agree with it. There's not a Tyreek Hill on this team. And I don't think Urtz is on Kelsey's level. He's really good, don't get me wrong, but I Kelsey's gronk, like in the in the matchup

problems he creates for you. So let me throw the set you though, you look at the Kancy Chiefs and you got three unique talents on their offense, and then from there the drop off I think is much more significant. Yeah, I would with the Eagles are deep breath right deep? Yeah? And then I mean I don't know that. I don't know that the combination of Jagien Lagarret Blunt is definitely better than Kareem Hunt. They probably are just better in

savvy and all. But regardless, however, you feel about that fact that Sean Lee's not probably not there scares me a hell of a lot more because of that. And you gotta handle two different types of backs. I think, well, really three different types, maybe even four of that stuff, like they're gonna they're all gonna get out there. Yeah, they all do their own and that's we didn't. I went I went back and watched their game against the

Chiefs because it's the only team that beat them. So I was like, what did the germanically, what did the Chiefs do well? Which, first, they had sproles back then, so they're basically trying to compensate for not having that. But if you were curious what the Chiefs did, yeah, nothing like the Eagles had four hundred and six yards of offense in that game. They threw for three thirty three and ran for one oh six. The big things that I came up with, they scored twenty points. The

Chiefs sacked them six times. I think that's probably pretty big they were. The Eagles were minus two in turnovers and they missed a field goal, so they left as

many as ten points on the field. But that doesn't they had to have some really, they must not have scored much when they got to the red zone if they had four hundred plus yards and only came away with twenty points in this the field goal that the interception did not come in the red zone though, but they missed a field goal towards the end of the first half, and then the pick came in the fourth quarter and set up a Chief's touchdown. But now they

just they had forty yards. You would assume they're at least in mid twenties, right, I mean they scored a typical situation for twenty points. Yeah, I mean no, it's it's a wonky stat line when you think about it. Yeah, for sure. I mean I went into it thinking like, oh, they must have they must have turned the ball over five times in this game or something. Not really like, I mean, all credit to Kansas City for winning, but it looks like the Eagles just kind of shot themselves

in the photo. I think when you take six sacks, you know, Zack to give you a negative seven, negative nine out of sporting position. Yeah, so even though you got those yards, you have those negatives that that kind of affected that as well. There is so there is not a team that has like just shut them down, you know. I mean, that's their only loss, and they still moved pretty effectively. All Right, we're gonna take some questions. Give us a call. The numbers two one four eight

seven two twenty one oh two. Again it is two one four eight seven two twenty one O two. We have a call from Mike in Arizona. Mike, what up? Hey? Happy hum day, my peoples. How you doing. I'm good, I'm good, you know, licking the wounds. I just kind of like a PSA for all of us cowboy fans out there that were hanging off the ledge. Listen to hanging with the boys. The first hour they knew in preachers and it's all about the next week. We got coaches in place, we got players in play. See Bobo

those It's ready to go. It's the Eagles Week is gonna be hectic, competitive, and I'm excited. My question to you guys, where's Doug Free? Is he like on a recliner eating bomb bombs or something? Is he not like an option? And Judge Taylor, if you want to be repartable damage, this is the irrepartable damage. Poor Dak Prescott. I love your show. Thank you guys. Happy holidays because they're coming fast. Baby, thanks, brother, appreciate it. That guy

just lifted my mood. Like it's good. Like yeah, you know, there's a lot of money at steak and all sorts of other stuff, but like it's just it's just football, you know, like it's should be fun, right, Okay, But Doug Free, you know, he's got to be sitting back thinking if Doug Free is in game shape, I would be stunned. No, I'm saying he's got to be sitting

back thinking, Man, they always appreciate you after. It's like he was never like who would have ever been saying go find Like people were so happy to let him walk. I won't. People were asking that for like five years. Right, where's Doug Free? He starts at right tack plays for the million, Like right tackle is not this team's problem. No, it's not. But you're just looking for tackles a No. I know. Well, but I guess my point is, like, all right, somebody's still got to play the left side.

If Tyron's like, you're gonna put Dug out there, because I don't know how that's gonna go. Probably you're gonna move lyl like it. It's not like that would be a cure all in my opinion. But he's out hunting somewhere, yes, or watching NASCAR. He will not be coming back to the Cowboys anytime soon. It was not something else he said. I thought we should kind of discuss this is wable harm.

Oh that's what it was. Good. So if you want me to rant for a second, yes, just this was something I said on Twitter last night, like the numb you know, I distinctly remember, and I think it kind of it started this joke in twenty fifteen, like Brian brought us famously started watching draft tape the day after the Panthers game on Thanksgiving. I was like, all right, that's it. They're three and whatever, they're three and ten or whatever their record was. It's time to start watching

draft tape. And that's that's fine. The number of people who are behaving that way on November fifteenth with a five and four record is insane to me, Like, and I get it. We talked about it yesterday. Like the playoff picture looks crowded. This team has its shortcomings. These

injured players being out, it's gonna make it tough. Like I'm not telling you that they're going to make the playoffs, but like to be acting like we need to jump into draft talk right now when the team has a winning record at the midpoint of the season is a

little insane to me. And it's I said this last night, it's insulting to how bad twenty fifteen was that you're comparing this to that, you know, like we were the Cowboys were basically mathematically eliminated by this point that year, Like it would have taken a miracle win streak of seven games with Tony Romo, which granted, some people actually thought that was possible. I don't know why, but it's set it. It's a completely different situation from this, like

this is what the average NFL season looks like, you know. Like, but the problem is the problem is right or wrong? And I agree with you this, it's definitely premature, but right or wrong. I think the way they lost last week and the guys that are out and the reasons that they're out and how long they're projected to be out absolutely is what has has I think a lot of fans saying the arrow is pointing down, like you don't know, even when Tyring comes back, he's still got

a back problem. And he's still got a groin problem. That doesn't help you feel good. Why would you be excited about the draft? Then? I never understood that, Like, let's talk about the draft, then let's talk about of what because it's the next That's the only reason is because it's getten. It's just because it's the next. I mean, I mean that's one way. Look as great as they have been soccer or more Chad's Green, what about more

Dak Prescott. It's not they just sucked in the draft. No, No, they haven't sucked in the but they haven't been that. They haven't been like just perfect either. I mean they hit, they that's the draft. Draft, that's the draft. The draft is not going to be perfect. I'm gonna do some real quick mass Oh. I just I mean every draft is a chance to turn over fifteen to twenty percent of your roster and you never know where you will or won't hit. It's exciting. Well, I think what I'm

trying to say is you get sixteen of these games? Yeah, like I enjoy them all. Yes, yes, And and that's why you'll never hear me say meaningless game ever ever, even when it was twenty fifteen. Note go back to the five and eleven years. You sure mean not meaningless, not meaningless games at December game? Was it a December in Tennessee? That was fun? It was I had a good time. Yeah, all right that Christmas waking up Christmas Day and in with a four and what five? Yea

playing Anthony quarterback? Yes, because I know that's what you do. I get it. And that's for people that love football. We love football. I'm not sure everybody out there loves football like that. I don't. Maybe it's just there. It's just the little trendy way of saying, well, the season's over whatever, and maybe maybe it is. But still, I mean, I don't think that's too early. I mean, I think

draft talk really shouldn't even start until late January. Figure out who's gonna be in the draft, you know, figure out who's gonna declare and all that kind of stuff. And yeah, everybody wants it. We've already had a draft show, yeah yeah, and people loved people loved it. Have a problem with that, and that's what I was like. I love talk, I'll talk draft anytime, but it's just hollow, That's what I'm saying. It's hollow and it's not hollow to like look and be like, okay, this it is this,

this kid from George is having a great season. We need a linebacker, Like what's wrong with that? Yeah, but it might be hollow for you. But that's the thing. It depends on what you what if you're what I'm saying, these guys, big boards, these mock drafts, you know, I mean every once in a while, Okay, they hit some early, but it's that's manufactured bs though, Like I don't care about big boards. I just like I like talking about

what's coming up. What like, like you can look at this team, you can't hit it to one hundred percent because of free agency and stuff like that, but like, you know what this team's gonna need in the draft. You know who will probably be in the draft, and like, there's nothing wrong with it. And let's not forget of

about that. Let's not forget this is all entertainment. So if it entertains somebody to think right now, even though they know I'm basing it on information that's not complete, to start projecting what the draft's gonna look like, and that's entertainment for someone. It's entertainment. That's the who point. It's just entertainment. Okay, that's what I'm saying, But I still call it hollow for you, maybe not for somebody else.

Somebody else, it's fun. If you're trying to figure out what the order of the top ten picks is going to be, that's hollow. That's a waste of time. But to like start trying to get an idea of what to expect, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But the fact that we've spent eight minutes on this further approves my point, which honestly, I agree the arrow is trending down, but you've played nine of sixteen gets

Like there's a lot of stuff left. And this I tell Taylor Stern this all the time, And like you got here in twenty fifteen when everything was terrible, and then your second season everything was amazing. Like those are both outliers in the NFL world. You know, like this is what most NFL teams deal with on a year in, year out basis, Like the league is designed for you to be five and four and have question marks at

the halfway point. Like that's what football is. And you know, there's a lot of football left and no reason at all to think that you need to pack it in right now, even if the odds look slim. I mean, who the hell knows what could happen. Let's take our final break, will come back, Let's get some more questions. Call us two one, four, eight seven two twenty one oh two or hit us on Twitter at Cowboys Break.

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of the table there, what that side? What are you talking about? No, we just we we love Tommy John and we like to talk about it, right Amber, right, right, good, All right, let's get back into it. We want some questions. Call us two one four eight seven two twenty one h two is our number. You can also hit us on Twitter. Let's get a question from Twitter. Do you guys think that it was a bad idea to release Emmett Cleary? Uh? No, I don't think it was a

bad idea. You want to talk about Chaz Green. I think hmmtt Cleary was right there in the same boat. I think if you was he on this team, you'd be looking at the same sort of player. He's a player that I don't think is very good. So I don't think it's a big loss. That's I mean, it's the epitome of revisionist history. He's like, well, we let that guy go. He's in Detroit right now. Like, No, I mean no, like and you know what, he maybe he would have done better than Chazz, because again, it's

hard to do worse than Chazz did. But no, Chazz has been and was a better player than h McCleary, and McCleary looked like a turnstyle most of the way through training camp. And no, just no, I don't think it was better. Just Okay, are the defensive problems that the Cowboys are having more because of due to Shaun Lee's absence or more of what the safeties are doing? Wait say that again? Or what the safeties? I think

it Shaan Lee? Yeah, I mean when when he's out out of the game, they struggle a lot more in the safety he's kind of been there, they don't help. I mean because you're you asked this earlier, you said, is it is it just Sean Lee? And I was like, no, I mean the safeties are struggling as well, but I think it starts there. I mean, but when when Sean Lee was in there, the defense as a whole played

really well, right, and the safeties are part of that. Yeah, So that's where I get back to, Yes, the safety you can say, I mean like in Denver and Arizona. Right, I know, but I mean there are some plays when Sean Lee is out there, like Washington and and you know you're like worse Heath worst Byron Jones. I mean, they they're not the best. We know this, we know this, so yes, they'll be better with Heath, but even when

he's out there, they need some improvements. You're you're not gonna say there's a safety, we draft the safety and you're like, well, no, because we have Sean Lee's that we're fine. I'm absolutely with you. I'm not saying that they're great. What I'm saying is I think that this whole defense has a whole different level when Sean Lee is out there than when they're not. And that's everybody.

That's the safeties, as the corners, that's everybody. When he's not out there, it exposes a lot more of the deficiencies on this defense. And that's not just the safeties, as the linebackers, as the corners, great everybody make people around him. There you go, right, that's exactly right. So follow up question to that whole thing, how do you make this defense better without Sean Lee there? Why can

the Cowboys possible in order to improve everyone else. You guys want to talk draft like, I like, that's what they have right now? Why do they do here? We go full circle? That's what it kind of goes back. It's it's crazy to me that it just all seems like it kind of falls apart without him, Like you

would think, you would think that there's a way around it. Um. I mean, first of all, if Sean Lee's not going to be there, the defensive line has to play at a fantastic level, both in terms of getting to the to the passer but also stopping the run, because again, Sean Lee is that safety blanket that can mask a lot of those types of mistakes. If your defensive line is playing well, maybe you don't lean on your linebackers so much. Number two like, like I love him to death,

you just can't. You can't put that strain on Jalen Smith. Like I want that, I want him to be ready to take on that workload. But we just we have nine games of evidence that he can't yet. Talk to me again in twenty eighteen. But whether it's justin Durant, justin March Lillard, Damian, whatever you want to do, Damian Wilson, Kyle Wilber. That's for them to figure out. Maddie Reflus knows his guys better than I do. But it's got to be some combination that allows Jalen Smith to not

be on the field fifty or sixty plays. I would imagine if Shaun Lee can't play Damien or not Damien, I'm sorry, Anthony Hitchins would play Will. And like I said, you put somebody else in at Mike. I get there's an argument to be made that you just keep Hitch at Mike and let them figure out Will. But Will is such an important part of this defense that I think it makes more sense to have the better player

playing there. So and then you just hope for the best real I mean, other than that, I don't know what you want me to say, Like there's not this magical reinforcement. Maybe they could have gotten a Varrol Bowman. They never even had a chance to talk. Bowman wasn't coming here, he wasn't to So you know, you can throw Darrel Washington at me if you want to. That's not gonna happen either, and you just have to make do.

And I mean, we don't have to talk about it right now, but linebackers something that they need to consider in the draft next year, not just the draft. I would consider free agency because I think for a role like that where you have this one guy that your defense is so dependent upon him and his history, not to say that he is. I don't like the word injury prone because it's just like it's you go, you

talk a lot about this. It's kind of giving the impression like there's something that the player is doing to be injured, and it's not really that. So just saying his history is that he gets injured quite a bit. I think because of that, and because he's so important, getting a veteran that is a good veteran, not the greatest, but a good veteran that could steady the ship now

protect you a little bit better. Even then, if you can't get the guy that you think you need to get in the draft, however you want to do it, you gotta do it. I mean, Sean's great when he's healthy, but other than that, there isn't another linebacker on this team with a long term future here who is up to the task. And you hope that Jalen Smith becomes that, but you can't bank on it. Are you at this

point thinking you gotta resign Hitchens? Because of that? You can never say you've got to do anything in regard to free agency, because all it takes is for somebody Atlanta decides that he's perfect for their scheme and he's gonna They're gonna offer him thirty five million or what you know, all these guarantees, and then what are you gonna do. You're gonna get into a bidding war. So you can't say that with certainty about almost anybody. But if you can get him back for the right price,

I would absolutely love to have Anthony Hitchins back. All right, let's get a phone call. We have a call from Rob in Vegas. Rob. What up? Hey, guys up? Don't this season's far from over? Anybody given up? It's just stupid. I mean, you got seven games and one broken collarbone to you know, when you saw what happened to Rogers, So now you can't give up? Why not that bad? I just think when you when you take Zeke, who's your best player and your most exciting player, it just

sucks the energy, especially as a fan. It just it just took the energy right off the team. You know, nobody else has that that vibe like he does. I know Dak does, but it's like he's a he's a quarterback. He's got too much, too many other things. I just think what happened this year is their contingency plan has been terrible. I mean they bringing Nolan Carroll to replace Brandon Carr, Well, that didn't work out. He's not even on the team. Uh. You you draft jalb Smith the

backup league, Uh, that's not working out. And you got Chaz Green trying to back up Tyran Smith and that's not working. I mean it's just every move day made just hasn't worked this year. I mean, they could have even did something really proactive. They could have picked up

a Jah with a fourth round pick. I mean we're talking about, you knew Zeke was probably gonna miss six games, and we already talked that they're gonna have to draft the running back next year because now with the suspension on Zeke, any misstep going forward, I think he's out the whole year. So we're talking about drafting and running back maybe third, fourth, fifth round. We could have got a j He for the fourth round. I think he's

better than McFadden. Or God keep in my name. But I don't even think those the backup running backs are gonna be on this team next year. So I just think the Zeke just sucked the energy out. I think it took a week. I mean last week, it just it just it hit them. I think this week they'll be better. Now. I don't know if it's gonna they're gonna feel better enough to win this game because it seems like everything in Philadelphia is good that right now we're bad. But who knows. But you can't give up.

Thanks all right, thanks to the call. We appreciate him. Um. I will ask this question, do you think that that was Is that a fair criticism that maybe they should have been looking for a better running back option when they kind of started to see the riding on the wall with the Zeke case like a gie where they could have would you have given up a fourth round pick four say, and a gie caveat option for you quick caveat? Which is why it's important to know these things.

I loved Jagi coming out of the draft. I wanted them to draft him before Zeke. It was even in anybody's radar. They didn't. They were scared by his medical they didn't like his knee, and a lot of teams didn't like I said, he was a bulldozer, do everything running back for Boise State who fell to the fifth round. So if they didn't like him, if they didn't like his knee enough to draft him, I can't imagine that they wanted anything to do with him after he put

two or three hundred carries on him. But is that not a little bit different from the standpoint of you were looking for him to come in and play a specific role while Zeke is out and then going say, oh what he would be a backup to a guy that you expect to play be out there the majority of the time. You're saying two years into Stephen Jackson's career,

you wouldn't have kind of reconsidered that. I just I mean, how many two hundred yard games did Jagi you need to have in Miami to be like, well, I mean same with Ron Leary. And I understand I understand that that Ron Leary was a seventh round pick. I mean,

I'm sorry, undrafted free agent. But you know, Denver just still looked at it like, all right, well, we're gonna, we're gonna, you know, he's proven that he can play for it, So I know that I know what you're saying long term, but I to answer your question, yeah, I think they should have done a better job with that. I mean, just just keeping these two guys on here, especially one of them that you don't like. Obviously, you know they don't like McFadden. I don't know why they're

keeping him. They don't go for a younger guy. And Rob is right, and when he says that those two guys are probably not going to be here next year, I'm gonna they would. Rod Smith will probably be here. That's why they're giving him the carries. But I don't think he's really the guy here. I think Rod Smith

is always going to be your second. Well we know the guy is here going forward, so maybe that feels the role that you want Rod to play as the second guy, right, Yeah, but you should be scared to death because of I mean, he's you think there's more coming, like, I don't know, I don't, I don't know. I don't know if there's more coming. I don't know if there's more coming. But I mean, he hasn't shown yet that he can mature from this. He doesn't get the benefit

of the doubt as far as I'm concerring. Yeah, I wrote about that last week, like you need to be approaching this as though it's something you'll have to deal with in the future, and just in terms of being smart and covering your bases. And even if he had

never done anything off the field, not one issue. Okay, he's NFL Man of the Year, You're still gonna be thinking how much are we going to invest in this guy after this because he's still putting a lot of carries on his body and he's gonna enter his third

year and all that. So it's if not this year's draft, that next year's draft you would definitely start looking at running back Like, well, but does that does that change now that he's going to actually have a season where for six weeks he didn't put anywhere into that changes? Does that change that next contract situation where you think, you know, maybe we are willing to give a running back a second contract because of that? Wow, I'm overall

see what he does. I think there's some good points to be made there and some that I disagree with, like the contingency plans don't look good. But I mean, how much of that is hindsight. How much of that

should have been better foresight? Maybe your linebacker situation maybe should have been better foresight because you're and maybe he becomes a great player, but you're hoping with Jalen Smith, you know, just like kind of like your safeties, you're hoping Jeff Heath can take a step forward instead of covering your basis offensive line. Sorry for the millionth time in a row, but what had we seen from Chaz Green that we shouldn't have thought he could hand that?

You know? I mean, he looked good in every opportunity that he got. He was injury prone, but his problems weren't when he played, you know, and he was Sorry, Nick, a highly touted draftman, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but you got it's fat until up until you and at this point you're talking about guard anyway, you're not even talking

about tackle. But what had you seen from him other than fighting injuries that gave you reason to believe that he wasn't a good player right up until I would argue week three or four of this season, what preseason game was that? Where it was it was this all over again? He did ms. I think it was the

Rams in twenty sixteens. What you're talking about. Yeah, I mean that's when my first thought was he that was first game of the year, and he really came back in those early games San Francisco maybe, or it's it's hindsight. It's hindsight to say you're like, well, we knew Chaz Green was awful in my opinion, and we knew he had injury issues. That's one of the mail back questions on Friday from last week was are you confident about Chaz Green? And I was like, no, I was so,

and I'll eat that crow. That's well. But you know, I think there's an in between here. I don't think you have to be confident about Jazz Green. I think you could be and also not say I was completely not confident. I was kind of in the middle. I was like, I think he'll be okay. I think he's gonna give up some plays, yes, but also don't think

he's gonna be horrible. I was wrong on that, but obviously I think I think that's probably where most people felt was he's not a great player, but as a backup tackle in the NFL, you're not gonna have a great player in most instances. So he's probably a serviceable swing tackle, which you can't let an average player get to the Pro Bowl on your dime. Yes, we're all that's all right, but that's that's after we saw it. Okay, nobody went into that game expecting that. Now you can

do it again. No, now you don't have much option. You gotta give him help. I think you don't have a better option to put somebody else in there. So right now you just got to give him help. I think until you get tiring back, you gotta help him. Start him at right guard. Zach ready, move Zach on over that idea for three years in it Now it seems pretty good. All right. We'll finish this up tomorrow.

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