The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and Derek Eagleton. It is Tuesday, August twenty second, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen, episode number twenty seven. Welcome to another edition of The Break.
I am Derek eagleson Amber Garcia, Amber Garcia, thank you for joining us, Amber Garcia. But we got a little bit of a little bit of a I guess that was just a little snaff foo here. We didn't know if Amber was going to be joining us. So sorry, guys, we're we just we just realized that Amber was gonna be joining us. So that's good. Nick, Dave, welcome to the show. Thank you guys for joining us. Hi, Hi Dave, you're on yesterday. I was pretty crazy like you. You
kind of went on there. You represented for the show. It was good. I thought it was a good show. I thought it was good. You represent it well. Um, I don't know if I agree with everything you said, but you represent it well. You were your typical crotchety old person self, So that was good. I was going against a crotchety old person too. You were kind of stooped to the level of my competition a little bit. Not that old. You're right, I know. I mean it's thirties.
It's thirty six five. Don't get it wrong. Are you today? Nick? I'm great. Good. I can't hear, but I'm great. That's okay. Figuring out over here you can see, so that's good. Yeah, I could see the TV. It's really good. What did Jerry say, stop watching the television? Well, I like being over here because then I'm like, huh right at the tell you think you're talking to me, but not may Weather forty. I got it, all right, Let's jump right in. Let's talk a little bit about some of the happenings
out here. Yesterday we're back at the Star, cowboys are are back in practicing here, and yesterday there were a couple different that I wanted to just kind of make mention of the Ring of Honor Walk ceremony yesterday morning. It maybe one of the coolest events I've been to
in a while. With the Cowboys because it was I think it was the first time I've ever seen all of the Ring of Honor members that are alive, except for one, Larry Allen was not able to make it, but all the rest of them they're in person at this event. They're all there on stage and it's pretty cool event. It definitely was. It was cool, and uh, I don't think that that stuff ever gets old. Um, you know, Emmett was saying, you know that we don't
we don't these we don't get together enough. Uh. And a lot of times, unfortunately, when when the former players get together, it's not for the right reasons. You know, it's for you know, a funeral or something like that. So, uh, you know, it really was great to see that. I don't know what Larry Allen had going on. Sure surely would have been nice to have him there, but uh, you know, for the to have seventeen of the twenty one Ring of Honor members there, it was awesome. I
thought they did it well. It was a little crazy and chaotic, but I don't know, hot and hot. I don't know how it couldn't have been well, it couldn't have been hot if you did it later. But but but then again, think about that, we talked about it. I didn't do it later, but then there's restaurants going around and you know, what's what's two too? What does that mean? And it was important to do it the
way they did. Yeah, yeah, I thought it was awesome, but I thought you're about to say something you had that looked like you were pontificating. It was really cool, and I'm I'm I'm finally at a point where, like I know about all the Ring of Honor members and like who they are and what they did. You know, that's interesting. Somebody brought that up yesterday, like how many and this is relevant for you and Amber because you're younger people. How many people wreck how many young people
recognize all of the Ring of Honor members? Because I heard that there were a couple of guys that were in the lunch room yesterday, and particularly Manster was in there and he's kind of sitting there and some of the players didn't quite know who he was, and they're kind of trying to figure it out, and then they figure it out, it's like, oh wow, Okay, So it's just I wonder how many of you guys recognize them
by face. When I got to the and I was joking with you because the facade here that they put up in the little they used the same drawings that they had hanging in Valley yea of all the old guys. And when I got to the Cowboys, I was twenty four, and I just had like a passing in knowledge of who they were, of the Cowboys other than like the trip.
I was like, yeah, like Emmett Smith and Michael Irvin, and I remembered distinct like you know, they had him all in a line, like all the Ring of Honor guys. And I thought Drew Pearson was Michael Irvin. I was like, eighty eight, Okay, that's Michael Irvin, twenty two. That doesn't look like em At Smith, who's twenty two. And I relayed all this to Nick, and I thought he was going to strangle me, because you know, Nick is the historian well knows lifelong Cowboys fan, twenty year employees, just
like heyes, what are you talking about? An idiot? And you're writing for us? What do you get exactly? I'm just like, I don't know, man. I was born in nineteen eighty eight, and I didn't follow the Cowboys until I got here. He tried to embarrass me yesterday asking me, how many can you recognize out of that line. I'm like, seriously, there's a few I could, but I obviously didn't grow up here, so sleep a lot of That's not trying to embarrass you. It's not at all. I would have
been dead, but it's okay. She said I can name them, well who I can name them? And that was it pretty much end of conversation. And I said, not all of them, but I can definitely name at least. It's just interesting that, you know, you see like at all the people. Tony Door said, you know, he's kind of middle of the pack. I guess for people that that know him or you know, high profile or whatever, but you know, growing up for me, I mean, Tony Dan, that was my guy. I was in the backyard. I was.
Tony Door said, yeah, I had the Roger Staubuck, like the whole outfit, like the shoulder pads, the helmet, uffy, Yeah exactly. I had got Christmas one year. Yeah, that was my thing. I'm talking about that with John Machoda yesterday here in the atrium. They like gave us media availability. You don't get you don't get two starstruck or like impressed by people. One you've been doing this for long enough. But me and John were both like, well yeah, Like I made it a point to go talk to Stabok
Like that's on another level from anything. And I was like, this is awesome. That's the thing. When you're a child, you're allowed to be that big of a fan. As an adult, it's a little creepy if you're like, you know, I idolize, which Dak Prescott right, I mean that just
doesn't feel right. Yeah, Well, when you're a kid, like it's like wow, you know, they're they're bigger than life even and like, I mean as big of a deal as guys like Dak and Dez and Jason Witton are, like Roger Staubach is, I mean, everybody who knows what American football is from the eight like people younger than me to like people who are in their seventies and eighties.
I thought Jerry. I thought Jerry said it really well yesterday when he was talking about them, and this was in the the ceremony, and he said that, you know, Roger Staubach has always been a supportive of the Cowboys, and while that sounds silly, you know, Roger Strauback's number one guy was Tom Landry, and everyone around here feel like it feels like Landry maybe wasn't you know, didn't wasn't treated the right way. And Jerry's he admitted that.
But for Stallback, he has continued to be a Dallas Cowboys supporter of all the quarterbacks here, of all the coaches, and of course Jerry Jones and his family. So I thought that I was really glad that Jerry acknowledged him that way, because you know, he has been an ambassador of the Cowboys. Yeah, whenever they're having these kinds of things, it's very very rare you don't see Rogers Stallback at
something like that. And it's rare that someone so successful in the field can go into the next phase of his career and actually be more successful. And he has done that, a very very successful businessman here in the Dallas area. All right, let's move on. Let's talk a
little bit about practice. Cowboys open practice here at the Star for the first time with fans in attendance, and we saw something that I think raised some eyebrows because there's a lot of talk coming out of that game about Cooper Rush, a lot of talk about Kellen Moore, and then we see during that practice Cooper Rush gets some opportunities with the second team team. Kelly Morris is take some snaps with the third team. Talk to me
about what that might or might not mean. Was it just as simple as the coaches, because they'll always just say, hey, we're just trying to get different looks and that kind of thing. But you can't help but say, well, you weren't doing that a couple of weeks ago, right, So what did you guys take from them? I took Cooper Rush being working with the second team that maybe they'll see how he does there. He's done well in every other aspect that we've given him, Let's see if we
do it there. And I yeah, the head coach might come out here in a little while and say it's different. But if that's the I mean, I don't see other people people doing it. I mean I don't. I don't see Dez with the second team. I mean I don't. I don't see Jason Witten working with that. And so I think it's I think it's it's something that needed needed to be done. I mean, Dave, I mean I don't know what what's your opinion is. I won't It's it's too early for it to signify anything for me.
I mean, I think he got five reps or something like that, you know, And and Jason Garrett, if he says anything other than like, well, we'd like to put all our guys in competitive situation. We do all that type of stuff all the time. We rotate left car like, he's not going to come out and say the number two job is up for grabs now, and Cooper Rush has done enough to deserve a look like he's not.
That's not how he operates. So, uh, it's interesting. It's noteworthy for sure, and if it continues, it's even more noteworthy. But you know, one you know, one day, will they do it again today? Will it? Will it affect the reps on Saturday? That's what I'm curious about. And Jerry Jones, actually he talked on one oh five three the Fan here in Dallas this morning, and he gave Kellen Moore a pretty decent little vote of confidence saying, you know,
he feels good about the quarterback spot. He likes what Cooper Rush has done. But he and and you know, Jerry Jones is way more likely to give you the scoop than Jason Garrett is. So if he's not opening up the job, then then I'm not really I'm still not ready to really think about it. Rush. When you look at what at what they've a question for you guys. Okay, okay, let's forget what Kellen what the coach. Just think about
Kellen Moore and how they support him and everything. If it was up to you, each and one of you to choose between the two of them, would you be willing to put a Cooper Rush as the backup quarterback even though he is a rookie. Um, yeah, we're going here. We're actually to be honestly, that was actually the question. I was aust that's perfect, No, it's perfect. That's a great question. You're giving me the freedom to Yes. You guys are making the decision if you were the coach
and based upon what you see. Now, let me just throw let me just throw this out real quick. In the games that they've played so far in the preseason, Kellen Moore has completed fifty four percent of his passes, He has one touchdown, one interception, and he has a seventy five quarterback rating. Flip side of that, Rush has a has completed sixty eight point four percent of his passes, four touchdowns, zero interceptions, and has a one hundred twenty
five point two passer rating. Of course, he's playing against thirteen players and he's with the third team as opposed to to what Moore is doing. But all that being consider, what would you guys fall again, I'm the general manager here. I make all the day. You make the decisions. Cooper Rush is on my fifty three. I'd go hire somebody
else to be my backup quarterback. I would release Kellen Moore and put him, try to put him on the practice squad, and I think I could clear waivers because Lenahan's with the Cowboys, so I don't think he's not with anyone else, so he should clear waivers, and then he comes back to the practice squad, and my game day back up is Cooper Rush. If something happens to Dac, I think that you know he'll be the guy he
comes in and finishes it off. And then if it's if it's something you need for a few more weeks, whatever, you can sign Kellen Moore back. He probably would would jump Cooper Rush and start the game. But that's what I would do. I just thought, I think who could clear waivers and I think I think it would be him. Now, I guess the question would be why not keep them both? But you can go down the roster and you know there's a way to keep them both for sure, But
I don't think I would. I don't think. I think you can get him on the practicquad. He is eligible for the practice quad. Still, are there any guys that are out there that are free agent quarterbacks that you're thinking. I don't. I don't even I don't want to get to the Kaepernick because I don't think that would ever happen. Seem that that is who I would go higher. I agree, I don't think that would happen. No, I would never. It would never happen, right, no way. But that's what
I would do. I just look at it, like, what would a distraction like he would be a distraction? Oh no, not this team can't have distractions on the Cowboys. Yeah, nothing else going on. I mean, maybe it'd be a good thing. Yeah, I mean, I he'd be He's got to be the most humbled quarterback ever right now. Kaepernick. I would think he's got He's got the ability. He's definitely got the ability. I don't think it's a question of his ability in mine, But what is it? Then
he kneeled down. Yes, I think that everyone in the league's doing it. Yeah, that's yeah, it's becoming, it's it's spreading. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean, obviously to me, you know, it's come down to he's probably not that good for what people perceived to be going to be a huge distraction, but this team is dealt with distractions, and he seems way better than you know, the options that they have now. I mean, what Kellen Moore did the other day is awful. You've got to hold onto
the football. Yeah, he wasn't even hit hard like that. That's that's the worst thing right there. The ball just pops out like that. I mean, you small guy, got small hands and can't hang on to the football barring. I mean, the first week that he was that he would theoretically here would be a circus. But I have very little doubt that he could be a quiet I mean,
very similar to Mark Sanchez last year. Just like a quiet veteran dude who isn't going to be a big story other than the first week he's here when all that is first getting discussed, and he can absolutely do what they ask back to do, Like, he can absolutely do that same type of stuff, like a lot of motion, a lot of you know, just easy passes, find the open. I mean, he can run that offense. I think he
could probably running pretty well. Yeah. I don't think that that will happen though, Yeah, I mean, I guess the elephant in the room is that this team has been and from the head coach an owner on down has been pretty outspoken about the fact of how they feel about the national anthem and how you can you look at I'll challenge fans next time if you can see it. If you're in the stadium, you definitely can see it. But if you're on TV watching on TV, I'm not sure if you can see it. But watch how the
Cowboys line up for the national anthem. It is unlike most teams in the NFL. They literally line up. It is not just stop wherever you are and acknowledge the national anthem. They are in a single file line, towing the line there on the sideline. They do even more than most teams do for the national anthem, and that, to me is why I think this team would probably never go the route of having Colin Kaepernick on the team because it doesn't fit what they are saying as
a team that they do. There's a story out there. I'm sorry, I just I don't know if I agree with that. I really don't. And I don't think that Jerry Jones or Jason Garrett would come out and say that that. You know, I think everyone they want their players to stand up for what they believe in. Um, yes, he does ask him to do that. But I think if we would have had a player here, that's that I felt strongly the other way. I don't. I don't
think it would be any different. Yes, if you had a player here, Let's say, for example, Dez Bryant went that way and said, look, I'm gonna do this because I feel they're not getting rid of this, Bryan, so they're gonna have to deal with it. See, it's a whole different thing saying we already have a thing that we do as a team, and now we're gonna bring in somebody who's going to be the backup. By the way, now,
this whole different thing. If he's bringing in as the starter, but he's gonna be the backup, and we're bringing in a guy that is different than what we're kind of preaching to our team. If Leon McFadden decided that he didn't want to do that, like they would wouldn't be good for him. I wouldn't. I would not be surprised if, just for whatever reason, Leon McFadden wasn't on the fifty three man roster. Well, he's not gonna be anyway, right, not right, there's well, and that's what I was gonna
bring up. There's a I mean, it's been circulating for a year now. There's a story out there that you know, Jerry threatened hell Fire and Brimstone to the whole team if they messed with the national anthem. I mean, I've seen it shared on Facebook a million billion times. As far as I know, there's no proof that that ever happened, Like, I've never heard anything about that being substantial ever. But I do think it is very heavily implied here that
that is, that's something they value. They don't want you messing with that. I mean, Jerry said it. He said for whatever reason. Yeah, that's the way it seemed that the way it seems. Jerry said this morning on the face he said, I like the way the Cowboys do it. Yeah, I mean if your owners saying that, there's an implication there, you know what I mean? And and Jason Garrett spoke
really strongly about it too the other day. If a star player decided to take a stand with that, I yeah, I don't mean you're not kicking a guy off the team because of that, but a Leon McFadden, I mean, it would be it would be interesting to see how they would deal with it, because I do think there is a heavy implication that they're not okay with that. Yeah, Because to be honest with you, I don't know that
I would. I would have a hard time believing of all those men in that locker room, there's not a few at least that feel like what Colin Kaepernick was doing was justified and feel like that someone needs to stand up and say there's some problems here that we need to draw attention to. And if that draws attention to it, then something needs to be done. But I
think you're right. When you hear your owner talking about things in a certain way, you hear your coach talking about things in a certain way, and they're saying, and that's publicly they're talking about it. You don't know what's being said in the meeting rooms. It certainly dissuades you from being the person that's going to step out there and go counter to that. Right, But if it really came down to it, I don't think right now we're at the point where the Cowboys really need to go
that route. But if it really really came down to it, would that truly be a deal breaker to bringing him here? Not necessarily. And I'll put it to you like this, If let's say, for example, that you're starting let's say
that Dak knock on wood again. If Dak goes down and he's out for a significant amount of time, and you're looking at the landscape of quarterbacks out there, and let's say you've already gotten into the season and you already got you know, you're already you know, let's say you're four and one, like you're having a really good season, and Dad goes down. I think that at that point
all bets are off. If he is the best quarterback out there, it's it's worth it may be worth it to deal with the added things that come with him if he's your starter, then if he's a backup guy and you're having to deal with this and he's not even playing, it would have to be a situation where he can save your season, like coming in like start game.
Like I wouldn't. I don't think they would do it to just have him be like Mark Sanchez where he's either inactive or you know, standing in a baseball hat sixteen weeks. Right, And again these are all just our opinions. We don't know exactly how the Cowboys are thinking about this because they haven't gone on record or talked about this publicly to my knowledge, but it's just kind of
how I would think it would it would play out. Yeah, I mean I just feel like then as crazy as this is going to sound, I mean, I feel like Kellen Moore has hit his ceiling and I just think that he he's not gonna get you know, a whole lot better and you kind of know what he is there and he's gonna know the offense. But I mean, I just wouldn't. I wouldn't part ways with Cooper Rush at this point. I don't think. I don't know if Cooper Rush is going to be great. I don't even
know if he's gonna be good. He's just been good in every situation they've given him. And I said this yesterday. You know, not only has he come in and played well, he's come in played well immediately, so he shows the preparation there. And every time he's throwing a touchdown, they've been they've been trailing. They've been trailing in every single time he's come in and he's either giving him the lead or tied the game. Does that matter? I mean, I don't know, but it's not been too big for
him yet. I'm incredibly he's on my fifty three. I mean, unless unless he absolutely just tanks out the last two weeks, which I don't foresee happening. And even if he does, I don't I've seen enough that I think I want to put him on the roster. I don't know that I'm comfortable with him being one snap away from being the guy. I think, like whether it's Kellen Moore or
like Colin Kaepernick's not happening. But if they want to bring in somebody else or honestly, I try to make this point on the show he did yesterday, I would try to foster some competition between Kellen Moore and Luke McCown. If I really thought that Kellen Moore wasn't the guy one way or the other, I would like to have some a buffer between an undrafted rookie being the starter. All right, let's take our first break. When we come back, we'll get some questions. Call us eight eight eight eight
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s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. Happy to be back home. Feels good to be back in the Star. We're gonna get to some questions. Call us eight eight eight eight five five two two ninety seven is our number. You can also send us your questions on Twitter at Cowboys Break Ambers picking those up. Don't be bashfull, Let's see what you gotta say. Let's get a call first from Horace in Atlanta. Horace, what up? Hey, what's up? Guys? Hey? I agree with Nick one hundred percent. I believe that
that Cooper is a is an excellent quarterback. I mean, I think he's shown that he could, that he should be plun that she should be the backup. I mean, it's about performance. This is the opportunity that you get to perform, and this is the only test that they really have, and that's why they have the preseason game. And I think that he has shown that he can then he can be that guy, and I think he deserves an opportunity and I really would like to see him get the second team reps in this coming up
game and really see what he can do. You know, when he's thrust into the fire. I think, you know, much like Dak Prescott did last year, every time you gave him an opportunity, he met the challenge. And if he continues to do that, I think he's earned that spot.
And you know, as far as as far as I would love for them to bring in Kaepernick, I don't think that that would happen, but I would like for them to do that and then keep Cooper Russians like on the practice squad or something like that, or even on the fifty three. I wouldn't mind that either, but I think that they should really do that to address that that issue. I think that is declaring home so to speak, that I've seen so far in the in
this preseason. Thanks guys, all right, thanks for the call. Nick, you want to address that because I don't think that's exactly what he did, right, But no, he said I agree with him one hundred percent. I think he's an excellent quarterback. Now I don't. I didn't say that. I don't think he's an excellent quarterback. I mean what I said is is that he's done everything they've asked him to do, and he he looks like he's you know,
he needs more reps and he's getting it. He got some yesterday, so we'll see if he gets a little bit more. I mean, I don't know if I'm comfortable with him being the number two, not not long term. I think you'd have to go get someone if you needed long term. But you know, what, is this a glaring hole? I mean, this is to me, this is is like a bad undershirt. Right now, it doesn't look like it.
You don't really can't really tell if you've got a bad undershirt or not until something happens to your shirt and you take it off and you're like, oh, that's ugly. So I mean, right, I'm glad that's good. Or not tinking about an undershirt? Yeah, okay, I'm going along with your metaphor here. I'm just saying you don't really it's probably not gonna be an issue until it's an issue, right, So I don't think it's a glaring need. I think, yeah, I mean a glaring hole. I think you've got some.
I'm glad you've raised that point because that's what I was thinking. When Horace was finishing his call, I was like, man, the secondary is I mean with a secondary turned over the whole roster, and the pass rush has not really I mean, it doesn't look significantly better than what we thought it would be. But everybody is worried about backup quarterback. I mean that's the only thing that anybody wants, you think.
But yeah, I think that's because though there's been until up until last year, this has been a running theme for the last several years. The backup quarterback really matters, right, I think everybody's kind of gun shot because of that. I honestly, well, for yes, twenty fifteen was not that long ago. A lot of people remember what it looks like when you're you don't have your good quarterback for an extended period of time. Secondly, quarterbacks what you see
when you watch the game. I mean, like Kellen Moore touched the ball every snap he was in. He threw twenty one passes, he completed ten of them. I mean, the defense hasn't looked great. Honestly, the first string defense looked great. The secondary now haven't given up a ton of big plays. And on top of that, if you really want to see what Byron Jones and Jeff Heath are doing, you have to go back and watch it.
You gotta, I mean, either rewatch the broadcast, but ideally go find some All twenty two, whether that's on game Pass or whatever. If your buddies with Brian brought us, it helps. But either way you can't really. I mean, you don't know how Malik Collins played just from watching the game, but you sure as hell know that Kella Moore didn't have a great night, and that's the crux of the issue. But with I mean, you know, every cornerback on this team seems to have a hamstring problem
of some sort. The pass rush It's okay, I mean, I just said they played really well against the Colts, but I'm still way more worried about what the defense is going to do on September tenth than I'm worried about who's going to be calling in the plays for Dak. You know, from the sideline, speaking of those hamstring issues, is that a little bit troubling for you guys that that many guys have them? And it seems like a lot.
It's a lot of the young guys, the rookies, I mean pretty much go down the list of the rookie class this year and they've all at some point during camp. Motele, I shouldn't say all, but a good number of draft picks have have had hamstring issues throughout training camp, which kind of signals and maybe this is a situation where you know, the young guys just don't have the bodies, aren't ready for the rigors of NFL training camp. Yeah. I mean, and you're talking about the skill players too,
the bigger guys, that hasn't been an issue. But from the three corners and Switzer, they've all had something in Switzer still kind of in and out right now. I think it's time to it'd be nice to see him this week against the Raiders. I'm not sure he's gonna be ready. He's been kind of working into practice. Yeah, he went in and out yesterday. He did individuals and some walked through stuff and then came back for special teams.
But he hasn't done anything competitive. But yeah, I mean, it's it's been an issue, and I think are we getting into some players that have stood out in the game. We're definitely gonna get that. Yeah. So if you have some good from well, I just think they kind of go work hand in hand here. I mean, one of the guys that's taken advantage of that, and I don't know if you can cut him at this point. He's
Duke Thomas. I think Duke Thomas has done just like from a Cooper Rush standpoint, He's done everything you've asked him to do. He's playing, he's showing up, he's making tackles behind the line of scrimmage, he's making plays on special teams. So I mean, obviously you're gonna keep Jordan Lewis and Chittubay, but but he's finding a spot for himself. And if you were if Mark Mark Quez White was going to make the team, and he still might, but
Duke Thomas is battling him for that spot. And we talked That's something we talked about on the Combo Show yesterday, is that these injuries are kind of forcing you in a situation where you might have to carry more cornerbacks than you initially thought you would because, yeah, you're not Chittabay,
Wouzier and Jordan Lewis aren't going anywhere. But at this rate, I don't know if you can count on them to meaningfully contribute in Week one unless they get healthy quick, especially Jordan Lewis, at least Chetos had the benefit of a few weeks of practice. But so now you're looking at Duke Thomas, maybe Mark Quiz White, and you know, you go back to you know, I think they carried ten dbs last year, they carried five corners and five safeties.
Is that can you still do that right now? If Jordan Lewis hasn't practiced all year, I think they can go as far as maybe even having just three safeties seven corners that they have Cheeto can flip over. Even before any of this happened, I was thinking six corners and four safeties because Marks White was playing so well. And now I'm like, well, can you get away with seven and three for a little while, because right now I don't trust most of the corners here to contribute.
And yeah, I mean a guy like Duke Thomas has been great, It would be I would feel bad for him if he got cut because he's done everything that they've asked him to and done it pretty well. And
you know, I think Kellen will make the team. Kellen Moore, And it'll come down to what, you know, when Cooper Rush, you know, if they keep him, he's he's not going up against another quarterback it'll be you know, I think the final three guys are gonna come down to it is like Markuetz White, Kellen Moore, I mean, Cooper Rush, and probably Noah Brown, you know, or the Andy Jones or something like that. Like it's you just you just put those final guys out there and just say, let's
figure out a way to keep them. But I think one thing that's real interesting here is the offensive line. The offensive line is going to help you go longer at other positions because if I know, Chas Green got some reps yesterday at the left guard or left guard, so they're still figuring that out. But I think, you know, Jonathan Cooper could win that job. That would really open
things up. Think about your three backups. You could just keep eight offensive linemen for your three backups would be Looney who plays guarden, center, Chas Green, who plays tackle both tackles and guard if you need them to. And then you could keep Byron Bell who plays tackle and guard. That's having eight guys, but it sounds like you've got nine or ten because they can play a lot. They can play a lot. Iron Bell has played all four of the spots that aren't center on the line. Ye oh,
and I agree eight sounds so thin. It does, but they did it last year and all three of those backups can play two to four positions, so that that could kind of help you. When you know you want to keep four tight ends and you know you're probably gonna keep six receivers. I can't imagine them cutting Noah Brown. You're really like, I want Noah Brown on this team. I feel like I'm the captain of his bands play,
and he absolutely is. But when it comes down to especially with Cooper Rush, you know, you think you're like, all right, well, you know, maybe Noah Brown clears waivers, or maybe we can find a Noah Brown next year. Like I mean, you're gonna lean toward the quarterback over the receiver in those situations. And I feel like every year I fall in love with a guy and convince myself like, oh, they'll they'll find a spot for him, and then they never do. And that's kind of how
I feel about Noah Brown right now. Which I want him on the team. I just don't know if they can make it work. What I like about Noah Brown is that from the maybe my eyes are getting bad, but from the press box, I look down at him like Deaz in the game. Yep, he's no that's no Brown, big guy. Yeah, he's a really big guy. I'd love to see Noah Brown. I know it's not gonna happen right now, but I'd love to see no No Brown playing with other top talent, just to see if he
could still make a couple plays here and there. That's what we haven't seen yet. Like but but for where he is, he consistently is making plays, I think, both in practice and in games. So I'd like to see him with with better competitions, see how he and you know what else is going to happen a little bit when we're talking about receiver. I think you're gonna see more packages where they rotate different guys in and out. Um,
you'll see more Bryce Butler, I think this year. Um, but I think he should should I think yeah, And I think with DZ, Bryce and Dez, I mean, um not to say that he will be the number two, because Terrence is still valuable and they like him. They love what he does as a blocker as well, and he can get open and like you said, he gets open real well around the in the red zone. But I think that that Bryce has done things, especially because of his vertical play that you know he'll he's another
weapon that they're going to utilize too. We're not talking about him being on the bubble. I mean he's he's at it all. He's firmly on the scene. Yeah. Here, sorry to switch it back to the offensive line. Here's a question about Terrence Smith. We did get to see him play a little bit in the game, but then Chas Green went in, uh proverham tackle and then Jonathan Cooper at car How would you guys feel if it happens that Tyren Smith has to be out for whatever game?
How does that offensive line look for you guys? Are you feeling okay with it? How they had it going at the Not okay with Tren? Definitely okay, but well no, but can they get the job done? I mean we did get to see some stuff. The best moment of Chaz Green's career is when he had to fill in for Tyren Smith. I mean, yeah, you wonder if he can stay healthy. And he's not as good as Tyren Smith, but he handled himself well at what people say is
the hardest position on the offensive line. So I mean it's remarkable how well they've set themselves up on the offensive line with the resources they put into it. If your franchise left tackle goes down, you have a top one hundred draft pick who can do the job. The one thing that does still worry me about that, though, is last year he had literally sitting there at left guard. I don't feel as comfortable about Cooper, of course, paired
with Chaz Green on the left side. That's that worries me. Yeah, absolutely, But I'm just saying that's the area where I'm a little I'm a little probably more concerned than what you just said because of that, just because I don't necessarily I haven't I've had enough experience just yet with the left guard to feel comfortable that you put him with Chaz Green, that your left side is still okay. I
completely agree with you. But, and this is going back to Nick's point, I feel like this is a conversation that's kind of starting to percolate around the team, is that I think, ideally you want Jonathan Cooper to win this job because it's way better to kind of have Chaz Green out of the fray, you know where, maybe he's even one of the best five offensive linemen on
the team. But in this situation, I think it sounds way more comforting to know that he's probably playing fifteen snaps a game and he can be your backup tackle and you're you're in a lot less hot water. If somebody gets hurt. Then if Chad's is at left guard and you lose Tyrant Smith and all of a sudden, you're signing or you lose both of them. Yeah, you mean you're signing Emmet clearyer Kadem Edwards off the practice
squad or whatever you gotta do. And yeah, that doesn't sound as good as Chads to me, not at all. All right, let's let's get a question. Do you have another question for Twitter? Yeah, a lot of questions about Nolan Carroll. Are you guys worried about him getting suspended? And again we've seen that he's got some good times, like he's played well, but then again then we see him again play horrible. So it's not a very consistent guy.
You know, when you asked that question, I actually was thinking in my mind, I wasn't even thinking about the suspension. I thought you were asking are you worried about his play? Because the one thing we've seen now he's had he had a good I think it was the last couple of practices before we left camp, had a really good I had some really good practices there. There were other times earlier in camp he was he was getting be
pretty good. And then yesterday he had another one of those days when I want to say they were at least three at least three deep balls where he got just just like run by, like just ran right by him. Dez did it twice, and Terrence did it once, and those guys, I'm sorry, but when it comes to just NFL like just wide receivers that that are burners. Those guys are not considered burners, right, Are they fast in the world of life? Yes, very, but not like Bester
than me beaty receivers. I don't know, maybe maybe um but and but just ran right by him. So it's like it's gonna get worse than that. You know, you're gonna get faster done. I believe I want Like I think his hearing is today, Yeah, yeah, I think it came out today. So whatever happens there will probably dictate well, not necessarily because the NFL does what it wants. I I don't know. I kind of you were saying earlier in camp that there's at least cause for optimism that
he wouldn't be suspended. But I mean, I don't know how to answer that until there's a firm decision. But he was optimistic about Z. That's a great point. So yeah,
I don't I'm not. Yeah, but and this is my fault because I take videos of everything, and I feel bad for Nolan Carroll, Like, yeah, come on, Like he he got beat up in the first couple of days of camp and Oxnard and everybody was ready to cut him, and then he just quietly was very solid for the better part of a month, Like he was picking off Dak. He wasn't getting burned. He has not given up a play of meaningful distance in a game that I can remember.
And then he goes out yesterday in one on ones, which is designed to favor the offense, gets his butt kicked. To be fair, I'm not going to say he didn't, but like, and now everybody wants to cut him again. It happened to team too, though it wasn't just an all right, fine, he had a bad day practice. I'm not saying the guy's a pro bowler, but that's just the nature of the cornerback position. Those hamstrings are good.
You can be right, it's a great point you can be and if he can be like thirty nine like that, he's there every game and he's solid, I'm not I'm not against it, and I'm not saying I'm not saying raise the alarm that that he's going to be horrible. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is I've seen enough moments that make me at least be like, I don't know, like, I've seen enough moments that make
me pause. He's not He's not gonna be a lockdown corner or else you wouldn't have gotten him for three million dollars a year, right. The Eagles is not going to let him go. They can't cover anyone either. That's I'm not yeah right, I'm not trying to convince you he's great. But it's just like brand Carr, like, he's serviceable. He's probably gonna give up some plays. You're probably gonna be yelling at your TV at him, if I had
to guess at least a few times. But he's probably better than the credit that he gets, which is none whatsoever. And the Cowboys knew that going in. You don't sign a guy in free agency, didn't go back and draft three corners right a month later. If he's a bridge player, yeah, exactly, so I is. He's probably not going to be a great player for the Cowboys, but he's certainly not the hunk of garbage that my Twitter mentions try to suggest that. I think he's gonna better than car or worse than
car I should say, not better worse than car Um. Yeah, Carr, Car is a better player. I think he will be worse than car was last year because Car, you know, third and twenty against the Packers. Notwithstanding, car was pretty good last year. He was much better than he got credit for over you know, over the course of his career. I don't know. I mean, it'll probably be really similar, if I had to guess, I do like Nolan Carroll's not afraid to get physical, which I like that about him.
I like that. You know, he's a guy. He's not always gonna win, but he will and can get physical with a guy like Dez, which you need that. Um. You know, when you look back at last year, Brandon Carr going up against Odell Beckham, like Beckham got him for one one play for the touchdown that ended up you know, it was the difference in the game. But for the most part, I thought a car you know, played really well in that game and he had a
lot of opportunities. Speaking of that, and I would imagine if you're on the Giants break, they've talked about the fact that the running back is not going to be there when they when they faced the Giants. Are we sure of the ride receiver was going to be there when they faced the Cowboys. I thought that was pretty dramatic myself. I think he'll be there, but hey, you never know until you hear more reports about what the actual we're joking me and brought us. We're joking about
that in the office. I mean, it looks like they dodged a bullet, yeah the Giants. Yeah, but we say it's just a sprained ankle. But they're gonna do more tests, so we'll see. We thought Tony dodged a bullet last year too. I wrote the story about it, so I want to hear more out of all the I mean, they said he's gonna undergo more testing, so I don't know. I honestly don't know, but it looks like he got He's okay. I know, I'm telling you, I hope he plays.
I know that there's people in the building that we know that that are they're different about that. But I love watching that guy play, and I think, you know, I hope he gets out there. We're talking about Odell Beckham. Yes, we are talking about it. He's one of the five or six most electric players in the league. And if a fun player to watch. If you don't want to watch him play, then I don't you know, you're not
a real football fan. I mean, yeah, it would help the Cowboys if he wasn't out there, but I'd much rather watch it player than not. Yeah, and if you're gonna, I mean, if you're gonna play them, you want to play them and beat them, like with him out there. That's fine. That's okay. All right, let's take our final break. We'll come back, Let's get some more questions. We'll also have a little bit of another installment of what the hell Man. We'll be right back. This is Dallas Cowboys
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rant for us. What the hell man? Nick actually kind of set this up perfectly for me because if I don't know, I know you listened to it, but if you didn't listen to our show yesterday with me and Brian brought us, we're on it. We kind of got into it about the preseason and the value of it, and I basically said that the Cowboys offense looked phenomenal. They I mean, they went out there, they had two drives. Yeah,
Darren McCadden fumbled, but they looked like a machine. And I don't need or want to see any more from them in the preseason there. I mean, if you have made a Pro Bowl for the Cowboys, you're done as far as I'm concerned. In games, practice is a little different matter in my opinion. And Brian let me have it.
He told me I was an idiot. He told me players play, and then sure enough, twelve hours later, Odell Beckham certainly looked for the world like his season might excuse me, be over and again, and we were just talking about it. I think he's he's one of the three to six most electrifying players in the NFL today. I don't think if he played, If he doesn't play another snap in the preseason, but he's ready for Week one, I think he'll be just fine. Would y'all say you
agree with that? I already the fact that you even needed that long I disagree. I mean, there is a certain level of player in the NFL, in my opinion, where it's just your it's go time, you're good. Does does Jason Witten? I mean, does he need preseason reps? Do you think he's not gonna magically get open against
the Giants lineback witnesses? And to be honestly, I'm okay if Witten didn't play, because not only do I think because of his experience, he'll be fine, but also think that I kind of want to see some of those other tight ends in there and some of those situations just to see but because I know once the season gets here that probably ain't gonna happen. But I kind of agree what Nate was saying yesterday from the standpoint there are other positions that you need to see them,
like that that left guard spot. You still need to see him against what will be a better defense in Oakland than what you played against the Colts. And you want to see him with the other guys he would be presumably playing with in games when the regular season starts. So from that standpoint, I kind of disagree with you.
I don't know if I disagree theoretically with you. A pro bowler that's been in the league for many, many years, he's not going to get a whole lot out of an out of what twelve reps in a preseason game, a half in a preseason game, whatever it's going to be. I get that, I get that, But I do think because this special circumstance at the left guard position, that's what gives me a little pause on this particular situation practice, right,
But you know, you look at it from from both sides. Okay, this defense is the defensive line has a lot of question marks. What they're going to face the Raiders. Do you want the Raiders to do the same thing when you like the Raiders to play their guys, Because I think it'd be a good barometer to see what the Cowboys can do it going up against an offensive line absolutely probably the second best, if not the best, you know, depending on they're among the top three in the league.
They've got three Pro bowlers across the line. Too, so I would I would love to see them. So, I mean, I get your point, and I understand it. The risk reward doesn't seem like it's it's there that much. But you know, for two weeks if you rest them, now you know you're sitting sitting them for basically three full weeks before you play. I'd put them out there, but maybe gone to the days of just a straight dress
rehearsal for a whole half. You know, I could, I could handle a quarter maybe, And I mean, you know, the whole thing that stemmed this was how good they looked. I mean, if they'd gone out there and stunk up the joint against the Colts. Maybe I'm rethinking this, but I just if you've made a Pro Bowl in the NFL, I'm not worried about you. And and you know you can come back at me and say, who they sat for two weeks and sucked in the playoffs. I don't
really buy that either. I think there's I mean, you're going against Aaron Rodgers that I think that's a completely different circumstance. And if they if they need a half or even a game to get it ready, you know, maybe maybe they're rusty so what at least they're all healthy and and I'm sorry, but I don't buy that a quarter and a half in a preseason game where everybody knows there's nothing at stake is going to make the difference between whether you score a touchdown against the
Giants on your opening possession or not. I don't believe that. And I just you know it's not ideal. Jonathan Cooper needs reps and it would help him to have those guys out there. Sure, it would be great for DeMarcus Lawrence to go against um Gabe Jackson and Awesome Melee or whatever the guy's name is for the Raiders. Who I mean, they have an awesome offensive line. But I wouldn't blame the Raiders one bit if they said, all those guys that's how you're going to make the playoffs.
That's what this is all about. And so let me ask a bigger pick picked your question. Would would your opinion change they should cancel preseason? Well? I wasn't gonna say cancel, but let's let's do for a second they had only two preseason games. Would you play starters more? If they only had two preseason games, then then what they play right now? I would then what you think
they should play right now? I would play the starters for like, I would give the starters the same amount of work that they got against the Colts if the preseason was shorter. That's what I would do. I'd give him a half, maybe a half. I'd give him a half of the through about the entire preseason. I'd probably give him half of the first game. And that's it. Not that I would No, they're not doing that, but
if it, I would shorten five this year. I would shorten the preseason it's getting longer for some reason, played two games, and I would keep the regular season at sixteen. I that's I hate this notion of shortening the preseason
and then extending the regular season. I don't like that either because I actually liked that that concept because sixteen, Like I've covered this team for four years now, I see like everybody's dead by the time December rolls around, like this game and the schedule is brutal, and you're already making these guys play games on four days rest and some guy at least one if everybody's dead, but simber, how is it you have such good playoff games in January?
A combination. I mean, the teams that get hot are usually the ones that stay the healthiest or the ones that get their guys back. I mean, I'll always think back to, which is, yeah, that's That's kind of the reason why I think it's a good idea is because if you got eighteen games now, you do have a little bit of chance for for teams to kind of if someone gets hurt early, they're back in time and
they're still ready for playoffs. You got some fresh legs in there if you had a guy that's been out for duty, injury, or whatever the case might be, and teams can kind of play that too, Like maybe there is some of that during the season. You take a game where maybe a guy doesn't play, if you've got a long enough season to do that. The Cowboys reported to camp on July twenty second this year, and they'll be playing football until at least December thirty first. That's
just insane to me. And if you're extending the regular season, then you're either having them playing games in August or January like regular season games. Either way, it's just I think it's more than the human body was meant to take. Like, this game is absolutely brutal, and I don't think there's a big enough emphasis put on player safety just as a general rule across the board. Yeah, that's just my opinion though. All right, um so is that end of
your rant? Pretty much? I just I just thought it was funny timing that hours after I made this point, we almost lost your boy one of one. Hey, he's my guy from LSU. I love him, I'll always love him, and I love watching him play football. I would be devastated if I didn't get to watch Odell Beckham play football. I mean, like, if if he was out for a whole year, He's way up there on the list of guys I would be. That would be a bummer if
he lost a year of his career. So don't play anymore in the preseason, Odell or any Cowboys players for that moll, I think now, I'm it's hard to agree with that. I keep thinking about all your thoughts on this, and you gotta remember practice it's not the same, it's not the same action you get during the game. And I'm and I personally am willing to risk the sloppiness that comes from the missed reps if it means that all my guys are there. You're willing to miss you.
You're willing to accept the fact that maybe you lose the first two games because you're not as ready. I mean, that's not ideal, but I'd rather have all hands on deck than get twenty extra reps in the preseat. Again, these guys can't get hurt in practice. No, of course they can. And I mean, and that they could go out and get hurt on the first play of the regular season. At least it mattered. At least they sure that. I mean, they can drop their iPhone or whatever. I mean,
that happens happen. Obviously, anything can happen all the time. But again, you're managing your risks, and I if you've made a Pro Bowl for me, I don't want to lose you in a game that doesn't have to happen. I don't have to put you out there if I don't want to. You have to go out in practice, you have to do that, but you don't have to play in a preseason game. All right, let's move Well, let's get some questions before we end the show. We
got a call from Matt in West Virginia. Matt, what up? Hey, guys, Hey, I want to thank every everybody from Cabalry Nations about all your show from Kent, all the personalities. Thank you, Derek. I mean, we just love it. I mean I don't listen to anything the NFL network anything, especially when there's turmoils. We really appreciate. I had two points real quick, Nick
brought up. The first one was you know cut Kellen Moore bringing back to the practice squad that you've got an extra position for three or four spots you know, on the roster or whether it's secondary, you know, offensive line, why receient whatever. My main point is the Zeke thing. If the judicial system finds, you know, someone innocent, why would the NFL like do a witch hunt when to me, the the crime or not crime has been decided outside
of you know, the NFL. I think it's given the NFL a break not to pursue and bringing the you know, the shield down or are bringing a bad name to the product when they have an easy out where the you know, the the law has said there's no problem. So I just feel like for them to you know, drag things out, and we're all cowboy homers, but for them to when it's easy for them to get out of that. I can understand the Brady thing that's in house,
you know, that's on their watch. But when it's the when it seems like it's taken care of, why drag it out? You know it's taking care of you guys understand what I'm saying. Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying. And I think one thing, and we appreciate the call. I think one thing that you may be forgetting is is just by saying that that the police have kind of, uh, either close the book on it doesn't mean that it's over.
You got to remember sometimes these college towns they're fans of the team too, and and and when you talking about alumni boosters, I'm not saying that happened in Columbus. I know that it happens in other places though that that you don't necessarily, you know, they take it easy on these guys in college of what's happening there. So just because that that maybe the police or didn't find or didn't charge ar these players, that doesn't mean that they didn't do things. And I'm really not trying to
say that's exactly what's happening here. But I think the NFL is right to a certain extent of looking into it as well. But I do think they've gone overboard and others, and especially in the way they dragged it out. I think what happened a few years ago was the way that whole thing went down with Ray Rice and how there was kind of one penalty and then they found the video and the league absolutely got slaughtered after the video came out, like you didn't handle this properly.
I think because of that, the league has taken more of a step of Look, we don't care what any anybody else says, courts whomever. We're gonna investigated ourselves. We're gonna come up with all the things we think are evidence, and then we're going to make a decision that best
protects the NFL. And so, make no mistake about it, this decision about Zeke Elliott, at least in the league's perspective, whether we all agree with it or not, in the league's perspective, they feel like they're doing what's best for the reputation of the NFL. And that's really what it comes down to. This is not about legal right and wrong. This is about them doing what they feel like is best for the shield. That's really what it comes down to,
and not Lee. Honestly, I appreciate that. And you could argue seven different ways from Sunday about the Zeke situation whether it's justified. He's never charged with anything, but I kind of appreciate that they are going to hold their employees to a higher standard and they have the power to discipline people for I maybe maybe you didn't get charged with the crime, but if you messed up, they can still they can still hit you for that, and I kind of appreciate that. I think the Zeke situation
is a little bit different. I think, you know, I certainly think it's convoluted. I certainly think there should be more to it than you know, the opinion of one person. I think there's ways you can regulate this, certainly keep it from being too drawn out. But yeah, it's just I mean the Cowboys could do the same thing. I mean, I could goof up, and just because I'm not going to jail for it, doesn't mean I couldn't get fired. You hold your employees to the standards you want to
hold them too. And also, and also the thing about the NFL that I think they need to better on it to be consistent were around the league of guys that you're punishing for this. Guys, you're punishing for this because this guy is a reserve backup that you don't don't you don't know who he is. And this guy over here has played in three Pro Bowls. I mean,
you gotta be careful. The way they come to these decisions is all kinds of wrong in my opinion, but the fact that they have the power to make them, I don't have a problem with that. All right, guys, appreciate you joining us. We are back tomorrow for a little more talking. I'm starting not talking Cowboys Wow, doing that for Wow Cowboys Break. We'll be back on at nine forty five. That's gonna be our time for this week and next week, So make sure you join us
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