Cowboys Break: Reacting To The Week 7 Win

We're li from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star and it is a victory Monday. Cowboys get a big win yesterday they beat to San Francisco forty nine or is forty to ten? Been a while since the Cowboys have had that dominating a performance on both sides of the ball. And there are lots of things for us to get into and talk about. How's everybody feeling this morning? Awesome? Awesome, good, the Cowboys gonna win. Dave and I are wearing comfy clothes. Yeah, yeah, everything's good.

You gotta let everybody now we're matching. Yeah. Yeah, the flannel got five whole hours of sleep. Yeah, yeah, that's always great. Yes, full hours asleep. Actually, five full hours asleep coming off a road trip to the West Coast is actually not bad at all. Right, you guys have had worse, Anna say. The sad thing is You're right right, you guys have had worse. I'm sure. Let's let's talk a little bit about some of this stuff. And I guess there were so many different things that happened in

that game, and so many different points. Why don't we start first with going around the table? And I want to hear everybody's if you had one thing that you took from that game that was kind of the storyline of the game, the biggest headline of that game, what would it be. Let's start with you, Dave saw some Cowboys football. Derek ran the ball at will Ezekiel Elliott seek stuff. He was ripping off Chunkyard as he took a screen pass to the house. The offensive line was

blowing people off the ball. And yeah, I know that the San Francisco forty nine ers are now owen seven, but what were they eighteenth against the run going into that game, giving up one hundred and eighteen yards per game. Well, the Cowboys ran for two hundred and sixty five which is the best that an NFL team has done in twenty seventeen. So regardless of the opposition, that was impressive. It was, it really was, and I think everybody listening

would agree that that's what they remember watching. Maybe it wasn't always two sixty five, but that ability to remove the ball on the ground seemingly at will, I think is what this team has been missing for the vast majority of this season. It was cool to see again, Amber, I mean, yeah, that would have to be the storyline here. But aside from that, one of the things that definitely stood out for me was not Jason Witten catch one handed catch, and especially because that's a heck of a kiss.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, So especially because during this past couple of weeks, I mean, I've been getting a ton of tweets talking about Jason Witten. Oh maybe he's too old now that he can really play at the same level he used to. And clearly you got to see

Jason Witten make a great play right there. Another thing that was exciting to me was on the defense side, all those sacks that they were able to make, and I was sad to not see tackle kind of step up because I mean, they gave him the biggest I mean, they gave him a big chance here to let him play and hopefully make those kind of plays that we've all been waiting for. And he wasn't really able to do that once again. So that wasn't a great storyline.

But I went to no, yeah, I started with the excited part, but then it turned into yeah, let's talk about tackling, and I think it's something worth talking about and we will get it. Get into that, Nick, what was your big storyline? I think those two said it. They ran the ball well, they rushed the quarterback well, and you know they they when you get off the field on third down and and create and create some turnovers. That's the thing that they got. They got turnovers. I

guess they do come in bunches. So they did a nice job there. Um I think I think, if you're gonna say one more thing, I mean, just you know, you can hate on them all you want, but but being an athlete helps. And Jeff Heath, I thought, did a really great job of going in there and and and you know, making some kicks. Um you know, think about, um, how tired you are at to play safety to go out there and to make kicks like that, yeah, and

kick off like that. So I still think they're gonna need a kicker obviously, uh if if Dan can't go this week, but to know that you have that in your in your hip pocket there, it was was a good thing. He was saying how nervous he was about doing that. I mean he didn't obviously get a lot of time to prepare for it or anything. It was just like, okay, and you're about to go out there, get ready, and it was it was kind of cute

to listen to him talk. It was cute. He's like, you know, I was really nervous, but it was fun. And even the first one that hit the poll is that how you call it? Yeah, the pole upright, the metal part goal put and hit it and still winning. He got lucky there, but it was cool. Now. He did say he had more fun in that game he's had in a long time in football, and it is I think when you kind of go back to when

you played as a younger kid. I'm sure he had an opportunity to a lot of different things on Fiel because he's probably the best athlete on the field, so this was probably just a lot of fun to just go out and play football in a lot of different ways. Let's back up and talk a little bit about Ezekiel Elliott,

Dave you mentioned him. He had twenty six carries for one hundred and forty seven yards on the ground a five point seven average, two touchdowns on the ground, and then had the one big reception for seventy two yards and a touchdown. It was the best day statistically of his career. And the thing that I thought was most interesting is we have been talking a lot over the last few weeks about the Cowboys on first downs and how they were not getting the kind of production, particularly

in the running game on first downs. Yesterday, in the first half, they had thirteen carries on first down. They had eighty seven yards on first down rushes a six point seven average. That's what they were doing last year. Right in the second half, they had seven carriage for thirty eight yards five point four average on first downs. Again, that's more of what they were doing last year. I think that was really the key to the running game, more so than them having the big overall production. It

was when they were doing it. It was on first downs, and then in the second half when they wanted to put the game away. They were running at will. What'd you guys think? I agree with that. The other thing though, for me, and I don't know if I ever bought into the storyline that Zeke was slow, overweight, or lost a step, but I think you can go back and find a lot of instances where he just wasn't running decisively and with a clear plan in mind for what

he wanted to do. And I thought he didn't look like that yesterday. I mean, I think the very one of the very first players of the game, the middle was clogged and he kind of did his little jump cut and bounced it around tackle and turned what could have been a one or two yard game into six or seven. And that's what he did so well last year, and I think hasn't done as well this year. But you saw that yesterday. He just I mean, you know, the cliche is like running angry or whatever whatever you

want to call it. He he just seemed decisive. He knew what he wanted to do, he knew where he needed to take the ball in all situations. How much do you think that is a product of this offensive line? Because number one, the offensive line played great yesterday, especially in the running game, you don't run that much without

them playing great. But I do think of all the units, and we talked about this a lot, of all the units on the team, the offensive line is the group where it is way more important for them to work as a group than even as individuals. And they had

two of their five pieces being new. Do you think that maybe a part of what we're seeing, at least yesterday and what you really started to see towards the end of the game in Green Bay, is that maybe this offensive lines getting to a point where it's starting to gel enough to where it does allow situations was he can be more decisive because he knows what's going to happen when it's going to happen. Well, I think

Jonathan Cooper that they found a little something there. I don't think they're going to go back to chas Green anytime soon, or I mean, you know, this is Cooper starting to get a little bit more comfortable. And I think coming off I think you saw the difference really the last three games with the Cowboys. You see a difference of teams that are that are fatigued and teams that have rest. And I mean that's just kind of the way it is. If you don't, we're not gonna

sit here and say it was an excuse. But the Rams and Packers both had more time off than the Cowboys, and you know, I think I think that helped. And I think the Cowboys were fresh in this game. The offensive line looked good and they were healthy as well. That's a big part of it. And you know, the forty nine Ers are a team that that's played now sixth straight or seventh straight games, and they played a lot of these close games and you know, the bottom just kind of fell out for them. So I think

that that is a real thing in the NFL. We've seeing the Cowboys on both sides of it. And we'll see how much that matters this week because your next team, Washing Redskins, are going to play tonight and then turn around and play the Cowboys on Sunday. We'll see if that day makes a difference in their preparation in them being physically their games in Philly. Right, yes, yes, the road tonight, Ye, that takes like an hour or something to get I guess do they drive for something like

that train maybe? I don't know. Before well, before we get too far away from Zeke, I just with how boring this team can be quote wise, sometimes things really jump out to me, which it jumps out when a Cowboys player like Willing, like Willfully, of his own volition, brings up another game, you know, like it's usually the media that does that. I don't want to compare players. I don't want to compare games. So the media asked Zeke last night, you know, this is the this is

the most that you looked like twenty sixteen. Do you think that's fair? Is this the closest you've looked to what you looked like last year? And Zeke's said, I think it was we saw the Packers game before the bye. We saw in the Packers game before the bye, the offense really started clicking in the fourth quarter and the running games started to open up. And I think we carried that over to today. Yeah. I mean, you don't need him to tell you that you saw with your

own eyes. But anytime a player says something like that, I think it carries a little more weight. Like I said, especially, you know, players go out of their way to be so boring. So and eighty five yards in the fourth quarter,

two hundred and sixty five yards yesterday. So again, I mean consider the opposition, but that's not I mean, the front seven is not the worst part about the San Francisco forty nine ers, So I think you have to view that as a really big positive heading into what is a really tough stretch of games coming up here. So yeah, and the two new offensive lineman I thought yesterday in particular, are there were specific moments in that game when I saw both of them make some really

nice blocks, both by all Collins and Jonathan Cooper. And if they get to the point where they're really working well in tandem with those other three guys, now I think you're onto something. If you remember back to training camp, one of the things I was really interested to see was Jonathan Cooper. I mean, people forget he was a first round pick, like you put him with other first round picks. Maybe he hadn't lived up to that in

other places. People forget that, well, maybe they do. I don't know if fans, I don't know if fans really think about that. They think of Jonathan Cooper as it has they think of not a shot it has been. They think of Jonathan Cooper as a guy that isn't really that great, right, And I don't. I still don't think they put him in the category of the first round picks that are on this offensive line, and may

I think you're rewriting that story a little bit. I think the story about Jonathan Cooper when he got here was this guy was a top ten pick. Talking about when he got here, I'm talking about as of this training camp, he still wasn't a starter, and I don't think most people were thinking that he was going to be the starter at that point. So no one says

four first round picks. Yeah, no, they don't. But they somebody they say, if the storyline around Jonathan Cooper since he got here and through training camp was if there's a line that can bring out that talent in him, it's probably this one. I'm just saying, we don't have to get into an argument about it. I think I think the point is. The point I'm trying to make is that this offensive line with Jonathan Cooper. To me, maybe you can see the first rounder in Jonathan Cooper.

You put him with these other guys, and maybe that's what you're starting to see a glimpse of. They still got a little ways to go. But that's maybe what you're starting to see a glimpse of. I actually asked, I talked to Jonathan Cooper last night. I'm gonna write a story about it later just as a teaser, but I was like, you think, you know, obviously this is your third start, it probably helps that you know, you know what Tyrn's gonna do, and you know what Travis

is gonna do a little bit better. And he's like, oh, whoa, they know what I'm gonna do. Like, let's you know, those are two of the best players in the league, and like, you know, working with them this experience helps them help me more so than I'm helping them. But yeah, I mean, it looks like it's certainly starting to clip for them. All right, let's let's move on. Let's talk

about Dak Prescott. Yesterday, he has stat line of so you go, sixteen of twenty five, sixty four percent completion rate, two hundred and thirty four yards, three touchdowns, one hundred and thirty four passer rating, and then also rushes four times for twenty six yards and a touchdown. Overall, I thought, this is the vintage what you want to see from Dak,

primarily because the running game was so good. He didn't throw too much, but when he had to, made some plays and then made a few plays with his with his legs as well. Yeah, I mean it's there's no secret that Zeke's the one that's that's driving this busum and you know, seventy two yards of that is because of him. I mean he throws a screen pass there, but but that that is kind of that is set up by the fact that they could run the ball. And I thought Dak did a nice job but just

kind of managing the game. I mean, there's nothing wrong with being the game manager. There really isn't. And you can have good stat lines, it doesn't mean you're not a good fantasy quarterback. And that I think he does it really well. He manages the game well, and he's okay with throwing in complete passes when the sack is is about to happen, and he knows where to find an eligible receiver and throw it at their feet. I mean, I think he avoids sax he avoids bad plays pretty well.

So I thought overall he had really a nice game. That's I mean, yeah, you said it, that's how you want Dak to play and we've seen that he can kind of put the team on his back a little more so than he had to. But it doesn't that's not necessarily going to be good because that's not how you want this offense to play. Like he completed sixteen passes, I don't think he threw the ball more than twelve

or fifteen yards downfield. I mean, how did he was His touchdown to winning was eighteen Yeah, so maybe the longest one and that just had a longer one than that though, but it wasn't. It wasn't. It was like twenty seven yards, but most of it was running. It's that's exactly and it's not that Dak can't do that stuff. That's not the conversation. It's that that's how you want to play offense. If you want to set things up with the run, you want the defense not know him

for sure what's going to happen. You want to miss direct and then he can make plays on the ground as well. That's I mean, that's exactly how you want Dak to play in this offense. However, the most interesting thing is if you go back and you look at the numbers in the first half before the game was out of hand, it actually was much closer to a fifty fifty split. There was nineteen pass I mean nineteen rushes seventeen passes. So in the earth, this could have

easily have been a game. Let's say they were playing a team where like Green Bay, where they got to score a lot. This could have easily been a game where he threw as much as they ran, or maybe even more, just depending on how the game went. But the beautiful part is again the running game was working on first downs, and in the second half they had a lead, and the running game was actually effective in the second half, so they really could put the game away.

And you know, I don't even think of the play calling like the balance in terms of, you know, whether they're playing the way they want to play. They were averaging six yards per carry at halftime. That's the difference. And you mentioned the stat about running on first down. You're giving Dak second and fives and second and fours and ones. It's that, I mean, this isn't an offense that's meant to be converting long distances, and they don't have to when they're running that way, nor our most

offenses around the league. You you get teams in second, third, and long and typically you're going to be able to get them off the field if your defense I can do that if they don't have Aaron right, if your defense con manage to do that. Okay, let's take our first break. When we come back, I want to dive a little bit deeper into this defense and what they

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WBC mortgage studios were talking about the Cowboys a big win. They beat the San Francisco forty nine ers in San Francisco. Forty to ten was the final score before we move on to the defense. Though I didn't need to bring this up. Ezekiel Elliott this morning found out some good news about this coming week in the game as far as his case is legal case is concerned. Nick, If you guys want to give us a little bit of insight into the news on that. Yeah, Judge, I don't

was it judge failure? Was it? She's the one that's on the NFL requested to expedite his hearing to this week so that they could get this matter sort out before the Cowboys played Washington. That's not going to happen. The federal court denied that request. Zeke's hearing on his tro is scheduled for October thirtieth at five FT. This is on the injunction. Yeah, not the tro correct. I

just want to make sure you're right. The hearing to whether or not to grant the injunction yes, is on thirtieth, which means the tro is going to go the full fourteen days, which means Zeke will be on the field

in Washington on Sunday. And assuming and I guess after we had the conversation with Daniel last week, in the event that the judge doesn't have a ruling immediately there from the bench, then would they need to extend the tr at that point I believe so, yes, Yeah, that's a good point, and I would imagine he also said, you know, this probably won't be a forty five minute this will probably be hours and hours or you know whatever, which the reporter and me, I'm like, oh, great, a

hearing at five pm. That'll take several hours. Yeah, that goes here. Even they hope you have anything playing there? Definitely not um but by the NFL, it's just kind of ironic. Really. It's like it's like, and guys will know this when they're waiting and they're waiting on somebody

to get ready, and they take forever forever. You hate that as much forever and then and then you finally get in the car and then they're wondering why you're not going faster and why why why you're late, And it's like the NFL is gonna wait for thirteen months and now they want to speed up the process, like why why is this taking so long? Like this is all on them. So it's just kind of funny how now now things aren't moving fast enough for the NFL.

Good point, YEA I didn't. I'm not married, so I didn't really Well, by then he was in their hands. They had control over it. Right now it's out of their hands. They never thought that that would take it this far. They just thought they would just kind of take it and then like, oh, now you know the season is gonna start and you're gonna miss games. If they really thought that, if they couldn't see this coming, then they are stupid and don't deserve the salaries that

they make. And I'll gladly take some of that money. They just big they they whoever that is? Yeah, I agree. I agree with you. If you didn't see this coming after what happened with Brady last year, you had to know this was going to continue to be the way that players found remedy. A guy that situation, a guy who wasn't charged with a crime, was just gonna take six games worth of no checks and that label he

was Yeah no, why would he fight that? Yeah? Um? Anyway, So, but Ezekiel Elliott will be on the field on Sunday against Washington. Still don't know beyond that, so stick with us, But he will be playing against the Redskins. This maybe a week two week thing. It is. It has been

all year. It's been. The one thing I will say, though, is when we get to this, to this injunction hearing, um, I would assume once they make a decision there, then you kind of yourself, assuming it falls in Zeke's favor, to where he's allowed to play until the point that they have a resolution in court, you would assume that this probably gets you through the rest of the season, because then it actually is waiting until the actual court case, and that I assume is going to take a while

to get through the courts. Right. I don't want to speak definitively about something I barely understand, but based on my very basic understanding, I think if he's granted this injunction, it probably means he'll be available until the end of the year or through the end of the year. Right. So the interesting part will be what happens in the event that this thing gets to January. And let's assume for a second the Cowboys are in the playoffs. That becomes sticky if you have the case then and then

it rules against him. Alfred Morris super Bowl MVP. Next question, Let's go orry about that when we get there. We will worry about that when we get there. Hopefully it doesn't happen this year, and hopefully this is something that if he's gonna have to serve the suspension at this point, hopefully it's just next year and just kind of deal with that twenty eighteen problem knowing that it's coming. All right,

let's let's jump into the talk on the defense. Um. As I said before the break, we've talked a lot about the defense. Rarely hasn't been in positive terms. There are a few guys that we've talked about positively. But yesterday, I think they put it all together, and really it was the interesting thing. They got the sacks. They've been getting sacks all year, but they had five sacks yesterday.

The big thing I think that was critical that they haven't been getting regularly is the turnovers, and yesterday they got three of those turnovers and the offense didn't turn it over at all. Gotta think that that's a really big positive step for this defense. Correct. Yeah, and special teams,

I mean started on special teams. They did a nice job and knocked in the ball out there, and and you know I thought, I mean, DeMarcus Lawrence continues to play just out of his mind, and you know that that right there is one of those plays that I think that you know, high school coaches would want to put on highlight tape and show their their players on from a motor standpoint, you know, getting off the edge, making the play, going down, getting up getting the ball.

I just thought that that was just a great play all the way around and then taking it all the way and then taking it all just in case he would have run all the way to la if if it was open there. You know, I love that After the game in the press in the locker room, he was like, look, man, I had like thirty something rushes. I'm supposed to get at least one. I mean, like,

I think I should have more. You know, It's like his mentality is such that I'm not really happy one nine and a half I have right now for the season. I really think I can get more, and I'm excited to see that in players that It's not really like there are a lot of guys that be leading the league in sacks thinking hey, this is great. I'm the best in the league at what I do, and that doesn't seem to be as we got guys happy about

catching the ball. I mean elaborate, just saying I mean, you know, there were some some players on the team that were excited about catching the ball on a fast that didn't count. But but they caught it and made a nice play and didn't get their feet. I was but pretty excited about it. I was lost, and now I would I'm found, Yeah, pretty excited. I don't think we need to let everybody. We don't need to elaborate. Let's just go back it all, just go East Raggs

down there on the on the sidelines. Yeah, it's good. It was a good play. It was a good Uh. Far be it from me to suggest that DeMarcus Lawrence is solely motivated by money, because he actually, I mean he said last week he's not really worried about his contract. Uh you know, if the team wins, everything will take care of itself, all that good stuff. But he has to know what's at stake if he keeps playing like that.

And I was suggesting that we did no, no, no no. But what I'm saying is I wouldn't be satisfied by one sack either. I'm be like, yeah, let's get this, let's get these numbers up, this contract talk, let's go. He's he's headed. He's headed towards a game called tag. Yep, I don't and you know, I honestly don't know if or a guy like him, what is the tag? Oh I looked this up a couple weeks ago. I want to say, it's like eighteen millions or a defensive end

or something like that. It might that might be, It might be, it might be fifteen. It's high. Is he one of those guys you think that would hold out if if they tagged him? That's hard to predict, you know, I don't honestly franchise tag is. So it's so hard to predict, and it's so divisive. Depends on the gy. Some guy's a hardcore like I don't want the tag, and I will do whatever. Some of them will say, you're gonna guarantee me eighteen Yeah, okay, I mean look

at Dwayne Brown out in Houston. He just reported today. Right, that's one end of the spectrum. And then you've got the quarterback Kirk Cousins, who has gone on, had taken the ket tag for a few years and been like, if you're gonna pay me that much for a year, bring it on. I'll take it right, it's betting on your so you just never know. You never know. The funny thing, I mean, the franchise tag was created for guys like DeMarcus Lawrence, like he's had an up and

down career. He had he had not prior to this year, lived up to the billing of a top forty pick. He's been injured and back injuries, which we've talked about at length, which are scary and persistent suspensions that forgot about. That suspended across the board is a guy that you probably would not feel comfortable giving a big money extension to, and now he's playing like the best defensive end in the league. That's why they got to make a decision.

That is why they created this in the first place, so that you can reward him for being great without giving him that kind of guarante. He gave me one year, I'm going to give you one year. And but the thing is is logically it makes all the sense in the world. But if DeMarcus doesn't want to play under the tag, you can't force him to. So there's no way to predict that. It's way too early in the year to even I mean, who knows, for all we know he could finish with as many sacks as he

has right now. I mean it's hard to predict. I don't think that'll happen. But even if he does nine and a half sacks, great point should suggest he's going to get a decent contract if he's allowed to become a free agent. I would imagine that I'll be in mobile in Indianapolis badgering the Jones Is about this. That's my that's all. I feel comfortable predicting that the biggest free agent they had that year, no doubt. I mean I'm trying to Anthony Hitchins's probably number two, and that's

not even in the same stratosphere. I think. I do think he's important. Well, Bryce Butler, Bryce Butler, I mean it's kind of a big deal. DJ duffelback, No, all right, I can't sell you on that. Hey, Rice is doing a really good show for us right now. So I'm actually got one miss stick around because I like the show. But we'll see. Um. Yeah, I can't think of anybody that comes close to DeMarcus in terms of free agency importance. Um. Anyway, Yeah, so that's all fun stuff we'll be able to talk

about later in the year. All right, Um, let's move on. Talk a little bit about Dan Bailey. He uh kicks a couple I think it was a couple extra points early in the Oh yeah, you're right, yeah too extra right? Yeah? And uh and then all of a sudden, the Cowboys score touchdown and they're going for two. I know. For me, I'm like, why are they what's going on? Why would you go for two in this situation? Then we find out it's so that he's that he's that he's out

with a groin injury. It's so funny, like how like we're we're the media, like we're we're there, We're there. And literally my best friend shouts out. Meg texted me and she's like, what's wrong with Dan? I'm watching it right Where where is he? They say he's hurt. I'm like, I have no idea what talking about. I'm literally in the press box. I thought he was fine. I just thought they decided to go for two. So uh, yeah,

that was surreal. Um, and that happens pretty regularly, seriously, Like, well, people are telling me things that I should that I should be able to see, but we can't see them from the press box. We are often the last people to hear this stuff. Yeah, but he's he missed the part of game with the growing uh. Nick, you talked about, Um, Heath going in and kicking out. I thought, for a guy that's a if it's a back, they had to

be called into emergency duty. Did quite well, especially on kickoffs, and then also had the two extra points missed one, but he had two that he hit. Um. But really, the I think the story here is what goes on at this point? Where do we what do we know? Do we know anything about the status of his injury at this point now, not that I know. I don't know if they've even looked at him yet. He probably it's third day off, but now he is, he's required to come in. So I'm sure that they'll get a

good idea on it. But I would imagine that this is probably bad news for Kellen Moore. That's that's what I would suggest, because because they have to get a kicker. There's no way you can have three quarterbacks and two kickers on your team. I don't think that this this roster is built for that. So um, I just the fact that they brought in Cooper Rush to play and

he got a chance to do some stuff. I don't know if Jason Gett was predicting a thirty point blowout and that's why he wanted him in the up there, But I just I would think that this week you got to go out and get a kicker. Just I don't know. I don't know who's out there. There is no update on a timetable or anything like that. But Jason Garrett he does his radio hit every morning after the game, which is impossibly early considering we all got

back at one o'clock in the morning. But he did say that they're going to work out some kickers this week. So I mean, but like Nick said, I mean, even if he's theoretically okay to play on Sunday, you can't just wait around and hope that that's going to happen. You need a kicker for the Washington game. Yeah, no,

you need to. You just need to have somebody you know you're not gonna I mean, it's not like a wide receiver where it's like, all right, well that we looked at him all week and Dez can't go, so Noah browns up. It's like, if you don't have a kicker, then you don't have a kicker. So yeah, I think they're gonna work some guys out this week. You know there are guys out there, I'm sure, And then there are probably some older guys that are pretty good at

making field goal kicks. For you. They might be older, but you know, I would think if you got a guy that's a pretty good kicker but he doesn't kick off that well, I would think that you you lean that way anyways, you just give me a guy that can make some kicks, because if I have to, I can put Jeff Heath out there to kick the kick off off. I mean, it's not gonna be great, but I'm not saying it was you. But people in the press box were joking before Heath's first kick off, like, well,

this will go to the thirty I did. I thought it would go to the twenty five yard line. I didn't think this is going to look like a high school game and clearly not like that. That might have been more impressive than hitting a couple of extra points. Really like, he had two touchbacks and then the ones that he had that weren't touch backs bounced down inside the ten yards were they were hard to yeah and yeah, and guy bobbled one of them like, way to go, Jeff.

But would you guys not worry about repetitive motion for a guy that's not used to doing that? I mean that I would. I would worry a little bit about his leg getting sore and you need him to run and so because he's not accustomed to the rig years of doing that over and over again, does that become a problem. Well, they're not always going to score forty points. That's a good point, kick off really good. Ideally you'll just sign a kicker that can do both, you know.

But if they're out there, yeah, are they? I don't? I mean, yeah, there's there's guys supposed to be kickers. Is Roberto Is Roberto Aguio about to be oh that road? Is there a long list of definitively, I would bet you. I would bet you there's some kicker out there that's a veteran kicker that's had some success in this league, that's right now sitting on his couch waiting for somebody to call it. Seems like Dave Hey Saint super Bowl Hero Garrett. There's some there's some guys out right now.

The Aguio has been horrible since he's gotten in the NFL. I mean he's a first round what was the first round kicker? Second half? Did they cut folk? Yeah, he's on I R. I think that would happened. He's not their kicker anymore. I don't know if he's on I R or not. Don't know. I might be on IR. Well. Just like you can get two peaky with who you can get, you have to get you. I'm gonna step out. I'm gonna step out on a limb right now and say, like four guys are gonna work out here on like Wednesday,

and Roberto Aguayo is gonna be one of them. I don't have any inside in Dave, don't even put that in the atmosphere, Like, no, the guy's been horrible. He I know he's been horrible. He's also like physically he's he's got to be the most physically talent kicker on the street, right But the problem is Aguayo's He's a guy you pick up if you want to develop, if you want to give a kicker a chance to grow

right right now. They need a kicker for right now to get him through whatever number of games if they're gonna be any games when their kicker is gonna be out because guess what, as soon as Bailey's back, they're getting rid of him. So you don't want a guy that's that's got some issues and you got to help him work through those issues because that didn't help you. Now. I'm just I'm just I just got a feeling. We'll

see if I'm right. I don't know, he's don't nick you you mentioned that you thought this might be bad for Keller more. Would it also maybe be a situation where you just brought up ash You probably didn't need to. We talked about it last week. You've been running with three defensive tackles most of the year. You don't necessarily need to have that extra body. Could they could Richard ashe be a guy that they just you know, cut again, get him back to the practice squad hopefully. I don't

think so. Number one, he played a lot in the game. He played pretty well. I don't I don't think, um that you want to let him go. He gives you something, um, you know that that you don't really have with some of the other guys. I mean, he's got he's got a lot of size to him, So I would imagine they're going to keep him up um for the next few weeks. Now we can talk also about the defensive end situation and what was going on there, and and I think some some things are going to come out

from from that. Like I don't really know all the details, but I know that it's more than just playing time. That there's a reason why they set Demontre Moore and Vincent Mayowa. Um, I don't, I don't know, but it just seems like some kind of your rule was broken or red flags should be raised. Yeah, to established, you know, veteran starter caliber guys or by the way, who haven't played poorly, Like yeah, it's not they've been. I don't

think they've been. That they've played better than Taco Charlton exactly, and that's what they So I'm not saying this happened. Please do not quote me as saying this. I mean, this just seems like a missed meeting curfew type of thing. That's what it just seems like. So just all of a sudden, two guys same position not playing this game. That just seems weird to me. Yeah, and yeah, and but I'm not saying that happened because we really don't know.

But but there's some kind of rule procedure or something that was broken. I think like when when the inactives list shocks people that are like in the know in the organization, that is typical usually points to something typically assigned that I asked the question. I said, so I'm trying to figure out I'm down on the field, and I asked some people and I said, okay, well just wait. So Mayowa and Demantree More because he kept saying more,

I'm like, yeah, I got it, quarterbacks out right. He said, no, no, the other more More More and may are both down. I said, they're both down for this game? Yes, why because they're both down? Okay? And always started the show. I could see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a nice little dramatic pause. And probably just looked at you,

like because they're down. Yeah, because they're down. What else do you need to You know, you can tell when someone's like staring at you with sunglasses on, like they got sungl and you know that they're still staring at you, like at least you get smack you guys. Ever see Raiders of the Lost Ary Raiders of the Lost Arc. Yeah, he's like, we've got top men working on it. Who top men. No, this isn't resonating. I watched it like

long time again. Well, it's impressive because it probably came out when you were more or before decade before I was born. Yeah. I did have one more question before we go to break and you and I talked about this in the press press box, Nick, as they were deciding what they were doing with the kicking situation. Why isn't that every team has their punter? And I thought you made a good point about this, so I wanted to bring it there. But why didn't every team just

make their punter their back up kicker? It doesn't make sense to me that you got a guy who's trained to kick, and maybe it's it's punning, maybe that's a different mechanics, but it's still kicking, and I would think that would be closer to kicking a field goal or kicking off than would be a guy that plays safety. I don't know the answer to this question one hundred percent, But not five minutes ago, you were worried that kicking

off too many times would hurt Jeff Heath's leg. So why are you going to ask your amazing punter who's doing his job as well as anybody else on the team to mess with his motion because he kicks for a living. You're like, that's what he does, completely simplifying, You're completely simple. It's really this is any different. I like bet, But the point is is if the best kicker, the backup kicker, is the punter, then I bet you

he does it. I bet you he'll do that. But it's the whole operation of the snap, the whole the kick. If Chris Jones was the best guy to to kick the ball, then somebody's got a hold and yeah they can do it. And I'm sure there's five players on the team that have done it before. But Chris Jones does it. He works with he knows exactly where that ball is going to be and how to get it the laces exactly like it needs to be. And the fact that they have Jeff heat that can kick it

that's probably why this is the situation. He is the backup. If Jeff Heath kicked the ball out of bounds and kicked it, you know, like hit Bucky with the ball every time, then Chris Jones would probably be the kickoff guy. But I mean, that's that's just the way that it is. And you don't like to switch two positions if you don't have to. And he's probably just as good, if not better than Chris Jones and Chris Jones as the holder.

That's that's the operation issues. That's a way better reason than what I did is but better, don't like whatever, don't mess with your punter's mojo. That's if you have a guy, you're gonna message your safety's mojo. I mean, I mean, he's just safe. All right, We're being we're being real nice to Jeff Heath today and he deserves it. But like mojo at safety. Oh, I'm just saying like he's not a trained kicker, as I guess what I'm saying, and so, and he doesn't practice and doesn't play in

the motion. I mean thinking very often. That's the only reason I'm saying, like you would think, I know, punning is different than kicking, but it's much closer than playing safety and kicking. I would think I got into nice little Twitter situations with people because I asked the question, if you can do if you can kick off to the three yard line, if you've got that ability to kick off, then why aren't you kicking extra points? Like?

Why didn't they even try that. They did later boy nasty responses about you know anything about football, if you think it's the same, Well, it's definitely not the same. But you're still kicking the ball right, and you can kick it and you've got that motion and that ability. So I think over time we saw that. I think Jason Garrett and the Cowboys figured out the same thing, like we could we could try. Plus the game got out of hand and you could you could kick it off.

I mean you could, you could try the field goals. I didn't see the third one third extra point was right down in the middle. Uh, yep, yep, Okay, that's on. Dan Bailey and Chris Jones will be on the Cowboys Hour tonight with Brad Scham. Maybe they'll talk about that. Then why he's not the kicker. Yeah, that's a good question. Who's on tonight, Chris Jones and Dan Bailey on the Cowboys Hour tonight, Dallas Cowboys. Was that is that six? Starty or seventy? It starts at six o'clock, six o'clock,

So make sure you check that out soon. Can you do that? Can you cover that first thing? I think those guys, this is what Dave lives for here. Those guys have never done a media opportunity alone, like they always have to do it together. Yeah, they always, well, always together anyway when they're around. Yeah. Well there may be like a game show or something where we can split them up or something like I have good luck. Oh my, all right, let's take our final break. Comeback.

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eight seven to twenty one h two. Uh, and we also can take questions on Twitter at Cowboys Break. We have a call first from Rob in Vegas. Rob, what up? Hey, everybody, how you doing. Hey? It was hey, listen, you dropped forty on the road. I don't care. It's the forty nine. Is that I was impressive. They didn't win twenty to ten. They won forty to ten. They probably could have scored fifty maybe, you know. I thought Dez probably played its

best game. I made some tough catches, especially that slammed for the first down, which could have been picked. Maybe it was he didn't wear a visor. I don't know. But let Ahan I thought got a little cute in the first half. I thought they could have ran Zeke over and over and over again. I didn't think they needed to take him out. I think after the second series to bring Alfred Morrison, and especially when they were down by the goal line, I thought that was some

bad play calling. But other than that, I thought they played great. I thought Ash actually did show up. It was nice to see a guy bring up from the practice squad and actually do something, and just a great win. And it was an easy win. I didn't have to screw my head off. All right, thanks for the call, I will you know it is it nitpicking? Of course it is, no, of course it is. But I don't. I don't get the Morris possession either. To be totally

honest with you, I don't. They do it. They do it forever, they do it with they're not gonna change it, like and we maybe we want maybe it's a you know, maybe it is a way to limit Zeke's workload. You know, I think he was on he's on pace for somewhere around two hundred and fifty two hundred and eighty carries or something like that, which is that's well within an acceptable range for a feature back, you know, And it's not an issue when you beat a team forty to ten.

But the thing that bugs me is it is an issue in a close game where all right, your third possession probably comes somewhere early to mid second quarter. Let's say it doesn't go well, then the forty nine ers get the ball and all of a sudden, like Zeke hasn't. It's the third quarter, and Zeke hasn't touched the ball since like late in the first Because you know, you're always gonna most times, you're gonna get the ball first,

which means other team's gonna get it coming out. And we have seen that play out in closer games than this. It's not an issue when you run for two sixty

five and win by thirty. But I don't like it and I don't get it, and it's no disrespect to Alfred Morris, but you have a twenty two year old beast of a running back that you're paying four million dollars a year two and I just don't you know, if Alfred Morris was Darren McFadden or Lance dunbar even and he had this very specific purpose like an Alvin Kamara, where you know you're gonna get him involved in the

passing game and he can do different type of stuff. Fine, but Alfred Morris is basically the same running back as Ezekiel Elliott, just not as good. And I don't understand that, and it bothers me. I don't think it's going anywhere, but I can at least empathize with fans who feel that way. Not to compare players, but just I know some of the things that Jason does. He count of models after his own experiences, And so you look back

at the nineties Cowboys and see certain patterns. Nick you were watching as intently back then as you are now, even though you didn't work for the team. At that point. My grades were bad. Way, but you land at this job, right,

So do you did you back then? Was that kind of was There were there moments in games when Emmett came out of the game specifically just to give him rest, not not to spell him when he was tired because he just had a long run, but just series where it was like, Okay, Emmet's gonna come out during this series in most games because we're gonna give him a break at that point and put somebody else in, whoever

that might be. Yeah, And there were times when when that would happen and it would would come out of games. I mean you're talking about a whole decade. So it also depend on depending on the player that they had. I mean, um, you know, Sherman Williams, I guess it would be one, and Chris Warren later in his career, and you know, but Emmett it was such a different player because you know, when Troy went down, they could win. They won games without Troy. They didn't win without Emmett.

They didn't win. And that's why I think when you're looking at the offensive line, you're talking about great offensive lines in the history. You know, I don't know, Sorry, Nate, but I don't I don't necessarily know where that one ranks better than this one because we've seen three different we've seen scenarios where guys come in and do well in this line and three different backs in the last four years and so, but when Emmett Smith was out,

they didn't win. Derek Lassic didn't let him win, and Lincoln Coleman and Troy Hambrick and Chris Warren and Sherman Williams and whoever, they didn't win that line as great as they were or they they were great with him it and so, um, I just think that I don't know where I'm going with that, but I just I feel like it was different. It's a different situation that

then Ben pulling the gay out. But it's a big I mean, we see, we see that they're You even said to me, like, why don't they running the balls like they did run the ball they ran into Alfred Morris for no gain or one yard. I mean they did. It's just it's just a different guy. But you know, you want to run him into the ground, But then you love the fact that he's run away from people in the middle of the third quarter on a screen pass.

Its point, so I'm not sure that you know, three extra carries in the second quarters the difference between that and again it's nitpicking, but I think the Cowboys knew this game, was it going to happen? Maybe? I think they mean, I think they run away with it. I think they did. I think they looked at it and said that. I think so. I think that maybe there's a chance to get him in to play. They're about

to get they're about to get beat down. That would be shockingly out of character for Jason Garrett to make it. Just to be so confident that you're going to get a big time win that you purposefully make your if that's why they decided to make Yeah, I mean, if you're making them inactive anyways, was out of character for him, you know, I mean just just changing it up. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I mean he's not gonna work great at eh no yeah or white yeah. Oh. One thing

we haven't touched on that. I just I wanted to real quick, all right, the run defense, which that was a Twitter question. Um, thanks for taking somebody's good questions. You're welcome. Puts say their name so they at least they get a shout out David Hellman. Oh thanks. It still wasn't great by like, don't think no. The Niners ran for one hundred yards and average five yards per carry. Carlos Hyde had a long of sixteen and ran for you know, twelve and fourteen yards. But here's here's the thing.

Total was what sixty eight? And this is a double edged thing because the forty nine ers ran the ball well, but what did we see they had stopped doing it? That's that I mean, it's not like this was ever a jug or not of a defense. It's that when your offense is playing like that, you have to abandon the run. I looked at this. Carlos Hyde had fourteen carries, six of which came after halftime, one of which came in the fourth quarter. He just they took him out

of the game. You can't run the ball when you're trailing by And as soon as you made them a one dimensional team and put it all on the rookies back, the defense was just coming. Remember thinking at one point, I think it was early second quarter, it was four teen to three, and they were driving around the twenty yard line, twenty five yard line, and it was that Hannah had a holding penalty. Uh Morris had a nine yard screen got back and I remember thinking or anything,

I might have said this to you. I said, if they get a field goal here, it's gonna be a tough game. It's going we're gonna have that. But if they score here, it's over. So if they score a touchdown, and I think two plays later went in one handed touchdown, which, by the way, he did the exact same catch in patent Go like in the pregame. I was just watching him standing right there. He made the exact same one

handed catch. I was like, man, it's nice, nice play, well, same exact doing it with Ja Whiskey Tart Drake to over use a little bit different Quiskey, but whis with the amount of hype that we put on and not personally put on Sean Lee and Anthony Hitchins playing together. I think the run defense could have been better, but it is encouraging to think that you can take that away if your offense is humming the way it's supposed to. And this all still goes back. I think it points back.

I agree with your point, but I think it all points back to when the Cowboys are running the ball effectively, and I mean not just overall what your number is at the end of the game, but able to impose their will on the teams. When it comes to running

the ball, everything else becomes a move point. This defense one hundred times better when the offense is able to be efficient and able to stay ahead of the chaine and that means they keep them off the field, and that means they score points, and that means they get a lead. This defense is so much better. Everything on this team is predicated on how well can they run the ball, particularly on first down. The fourth quarter play by play is just like CJ. Bethard incomplete. CJ. Bethard

sacked CJ. Bethard complete for four yards. CJ. Bethard incomplete. Like you don't see any There's no rush attempts, there's no nothing. There's just one dimensional, simple effective. It's exactly right.

Let's take a question from Twitter. Well, we all saw that the Cowboys obviously dominated the forty nine ers, But if you were nitpicking and just taking account into account that it was indeed the forty nine Ers, a team that had six straight losses, what is one specific area that each one of you thinks that they finally clicked

and they finally did make some real improvement. Putting aside the fact that they were playing against the forty nine ers one area the left guard, I mean, I thought Jonathan Cooper was Actually we talked about it earlier, but I thought he had some really nice plays where you know, he was out pulling and they kind of ran behind him or he opened up the lane. It wasn't just you know, three guys and then two others. I thought those two others, Collins and Cooper both did really a

really nice job. Just go look at the twenty five yard touchdown and run by Zeke the second one of the game. Go watch all of the linemen, Cooper and Lyle Collins are doing their job tremendously. Zack, Can I take one more step beyond that? Is Cooper on the outside, his ability to get outside where he did that? Yeah, I think that was where if they can get him to do that consistently, you already got guys that are very athletic on this offensive line. And Zeke talked about

it after the game. The reason why that that screen works so well was to say, he said, it's exact same play they were in in Pittsburgh last year. But the reason it works so well is because they got

good athletic offensive lineman. If they can do that consistently, it presents a whole new wrinkle in this offense that teams that are aggressive, some of these teams that they've played so far that are really aggressive, like Denver, if you can get those guys on the outside out there blocking, you can open up some opportunities to be able to really take advantage of aggressive defenses, and they haven't been able to do that consistently this year. That's the one there.

I think that its started to click yesterday. I'm interested to see not just in the runs, but also in the passing game how you can get those guys out into space blocking for Zeke and that gives him some opportunity to make big plays. Yeah, and Zi, I was

talking to Zack Martin. He was telling me that their biggest problem was just being like everyone being on the same page, the five of them being on the same page, to where everyone is capable of doing their own job and not having to worry about the guy next to you and taking care of that. So hopefully this was the start of an offensive line being right on the same page and everything flowing smoothly. Now here's a question

about Terrence Williams. Where was he this week? And once again we've had some issues with him seeing him struggle. Had three targets and zero So who cares people do? Apparently yeah, people care, still care about that. But I don't know. You played offense exactly the way you want to play. Zeke's had a new career high. Deaz had

a solid game, made a great catch, Jason Winton Austin. Like, I mean, Cole Beasley didn't have an amazing day either, but like that doesn't matter when they had five hundred yards of offense. I mean, there's only so many balls to go around. Terrence had a chance at a touchdown. I mean you could say he didn't do a good job with his hands, it was a little bit overthrown whatever, But if he'd come down, yeah, it would have been a very nice play. I'm not gonna kill him for that.

I mean, um, but I'm I don't. I'm just I'm not gonna dog the guy for not having a great day when the overall result was so awesome. You know, that's just fans nitpicking and forty points isn't enough. I mean, they did everything they wanted to. Forty nine ers couldn't take away des and so that's what happens if you're not gonna take away Dez and went. And then we've said how many million times have we said that Terrence is technically the number two receiver, but he's really the

fourth or fifth option. You saw that come play out. So no, yeah, he didn't. He didn't have a great day. He didn't need to have a great day. Everybody else did. So all right, guys, appreciate you. Joonius. We're back tomorrow. We'll give you a bit picture look at what's happening around the NFC East, particularly tonight the reds I mean the Eagles and the Redskins face off in Philadelphia. That's a very important game for the Cowboys. To make sure

you check that out. We'll talk a little bit about that tomorrow and then give you a bigger picture look at Cowboys as well. Until then, for Nick even, Dave Hellman, Ambergarcia, I'm Derek Eagelton. This has been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club