Cowboys Break: RB Controversy?

twenty two, season eighteen, Episode number sixty two. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break, live from s WBC Morgage Studios. At the start, we're presented by mill of Light, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. It is Halloween and we get to talk about something not so scary. Cowboys get a win yesterday they win forty nine twenty nine in a game that we would These guys tell you what they think of this game. And but let's start with you. What is the story of this game?

Oh god, I'm unprepared. You knew it was coming, Shoot it was yeah, No, I'm storyline. I don't know what the exact storyline is, but I'm pretty damn excited about what this offense is looking like. Dak Prescott. I thought he had how Americans say, hell of a game? How about that one, Bryan That, Yeah, that kind of hell of the game. No love seeing him run, love seeing him just use it, just be him. He was just him. Obviously,

they ran the ball very very well. I think that we'll probably be talking about this in the next weeks to come. The whole debate once again about Ezekiel Elliott and Tony Poller doesn't help that Tony rent so well yesterday, but it's a great problem to have, so long story short, I'm just very very happy about everything that I saw offensively and what the Cowboys were able to do, and

even the receivers. We saw a lot more of Michael Gallup and Cede Lamb, which is kind of what we were talking about during the week, just how Kellen gets them involved and open in situations where they can be open more, and I think we saw some improvement in that aspect. Nick I thought they were able to show that they could win with offense, and that's something that you know at some point they're gonna have to win different ways. This defense still carries this team, but they're

gonna have to win with offense. They showed that they can do it. Kellen Moore I thought, had a great game that he called so you're gonna have to win, you know, than the playoffs. There's gonna be games that are you know, grinded out games. There're gonna be some high scoring games. They every game takes us a life of its own, and this one did, and they Coaly showed that for this game they could do it right. We boh with your defensive depth. And I say this in a way of that there was one time where

I looked on the field. There was mcquamu, there was Clark, there was Marquise Bell. They were out there fighting against a team that if you don't get practice reps against during the week with the way that they scheme, these guys don't. They don't. They're scout team guys out there playing right now and having to defend an offense that stresses you out. They stress you out with the running game. We talked about it here just a little bit pre show.

They're down twenty something points, they're still running the ball, and now they test your physicality. Are you able to get all blocks? You're able to do the things necessary to stop them? And a lot of guys on that defense yesterday got to play that don't normally get reps. And you know it's not an excuse. I mean, the Bears got yards, but they didn't get points. You know, they didn't really get points. That's what running the ball

all will do for you. It'll it'll. Yeah, you can grind people down, but how many points you're gonna get. Kellen Moore was outstanding calling a game yesterday. But I'm gonna give this defensive depth and give the front office some credit for getting these guys involved, and get these defensive coaches some credit for getting them ready enough to play and to finish that football game, because at the bitter end, it was not the team that you started

with on defense at all. Let's talk about this offense yesterday. They had six touchdowns in nine possessions. I'm not including the final possession where they just had they just sneled on the ball and then they had a TV in their first four possessions. They got off to a fast start, which again goes to the point that you guys are making and I think everyone thought, hey, you get out to a fast lead on these guys, you make them one dimensional. Had to make them have to throw the ball.

They don't. They did not. They kept running the ball and they were doing it effectively. They just couldn't catch up with that formula. But Cowboys offense put up four and forty two yards. Dak was I think outstanding twenty one of twenty seven, seventy seven points seven percent completion rate. That's two weeks in a row that he's been around that seventy five seventy seven range in completions, which is a really great number. Two hundred and fifty yards, two touchdowns,

one interception, one hundred and fourteen point five rating. He also had the five rushes for thirty four yards. Nick, I was thinking about you in the press box. There was a play just before the one of the nice runs that he had. I think it might have been a touchdown run. But right before that play you saw it and you were like, man, he's got all this room out there and he didn't run it, and you were like, man, this is not the Dak. Come on, you gotta be the Dack I need. And next play

here we go touchdown. But let's talk about that. What what what part of Dak's game stood out to you the most yesterday Nick, we'll star are you um? I think I think he. I thought he took what the defense was given, which was a lot of slants. You know how I feel about that. I think that that's one thing that Dak isn't great at throwing as the slant. Shockingly. But I'll say this, other than Aikman, we haven't seen like Romo wasn't good at the slant. It just wasn't

his best throw, you know. And but Gallup helped him out to yesterday that he didn't as much before. But I thought, just just a little bit of moving there's one play, remember I think I don't remember exactly what happened. It was a very subtle step up and rolled to the right step kind of resetisfied and feet and throw it. And that's something that Cooper Rush we didn't see from him. He likes it a clean pocket, stand there and throw.

He could make the throw, but this was just like he had to just off your spot just a little bit. And Dak, you know, and he makes good throws on the run. That one wasn't on the run. It was just kind of resetting his feet. But he moves in the pocket pretty well. And that's gonna get better and better. I just thought third down, he rolled out, he had it, he could have got the first down, and he didn't take any threw it to Rowdy back there in the

end zone. And then the next play I was like, well, I mean that's the kind of deck that in the next play he runs in for a touchdown for I can even finished my sentence, right, Yeah. I think the thing with Dak was the we're going to learn today The interception wasn't his fault. When you sit down and I think we have coordinators today, right, did they get did they answer those questions for you and stuff? I think that somebody off the you know, somebody's going to

be able to find out. You know. I was talking with Isaiah standback about it. We were both watching the play and the description of how you the play was run with the tight ends holding the linebackers in place, and then you run the route in between the safety and the linebackers. I think you're going to learn there, maybe off the record or something that Lamb needs to be that route needs to be further inside. He went

too far up the field. Dak was throwing that ball in a way that it was for that just he was going to try and fit it between the linebackers who were held by the tight end, and then also the safety who was playing deep in the middle of the field. If that route gets thrown, if he runs that route a little bit flatter inside, that's a big play. And I think that's what Dak saw last night when I saw this, saying damn, he didn't see the safety again.

And when you watch the way the route combination is with the linebackers, the tight ends, and then where it needs to be and how deep that guy was playing, Dac made the right read. He just needs a little help from his this guy getting inside. And I think Kellen Moore, Mike mccarthy'll admit that today you know real quick and before you jump in on that, I wanted

to say about that. You know, when you talk about those kinds of routes and even talking going back to the slant route, I agree with you Nick that I don't know that it necessarily matches up all the time. It's a route that seems to be a bit of a problem for them, But I don't know that it's all Dac. I do wonder in some instances, are your receivers taking the right angles. Are they making their breaks at the right, because that is a very precise route.

It is literally just like it's a precise situation for the quarterback. He's got a three step drop, get the ball out, and so everything has to match up. The receivers have to be in the right depth, they have to be at the right angle. There's a lot of stuff that's involved in that. So I'm not sure it's always just the quarterback, as much as it could be.

Receivers and quarterback just aren't on the same page. It seems like with these slants, to your point, they run a route later in the game, they run a route with Gallup and he's going against Jalen Johnson thirty three, and Jalen Johnson knocks the ball down and he tries to outside set him and Johnson jams him, and then he's trying to get back inside and now the ball you know, it's you're right, it's the timing, it's the depth,

it's all that involved. So yeah, if you don't have that SYNCD up, you're gonna have some plays that are gonna get They're gonna look bad either. You know, the ball's not gonna be where it needs to be or the receivers, not where he needs to be on the round. And to me, a lot of that is about time together. I don't know if with Dak missing last year as much time that he missed, Like when you start thinking about how much time he's practiced, time he may have missed,

it becomes a situation. He got to practice this week, and I think it showed up. I think the way the offense was running, I think going back with Dak, I think Kellen Moore called a hell of a game. I mentioned that I think that Dak ran the game plan perfectly for how they needed to play yesterday. I

really do. I think with all the movement in the throwing and putting, ceedee lamb in the backfield and three bunch tight end over here and keep hitting the spot here and then oh we're gonna throw a screen over here to these tight ends and let them run. I mean they had they Kelly Moore I tweeted this out. I thought his first fifteen were excellent. I'm like, okay, let me see the next fifteen, and the next fifteen were just as good. And I thought they had really

good balance when it came the run pass ratio. But the way that they made the Bears defend the whole field. I think that's something that was super impressive yesterday. Yeah. I think the the O line allowed Dak to be very very comfortable, Like he just felt comfortable. He trusted what he got, He trusted the receivers, the tight ends.

The running game was working. You talk about balance, talk about all the balance between the running game, Dak running himself, the ball, then the receivers, the tight ends, so every single component was working. It wasn't clean all the way because there was that interception. Also, talk about Turpin. Feel like I saw someone running, I'm like, hold, I didn't see the number just yet. I look up and I'm like, what the heck, Who's Who's that fast? There's only one

guy that's that fast. And of course it was Turpin. So that's another thing that you know, we've been talking about it on here as well, and it was really really good to see them incorporate that into the game. Hopefully we get to see it a lot more because man, he can freaking run. That guy is fast. Yeah. And when I went back and watched the member, because I said to you in the press box, eleven yard run on first down, they pitched it to him. The next play faked it to him and there was and it

had CD dragging across. And I watched fifty three the linebacker for the Bears was cheating way over. We're seeing Turpin and it got out of the spot and CD filled right there. That's exactly what we're talking about about what Turpin can do. There's another play that I thought of, Brian. When I watched it again, I was like, this is exactly what you've been asking Kellen Moore to do. Is scheme the receivers open the touchdown the CD. He gets him in motion and he puts him in motion to

him the right to the left behind Gallup. Gallup fights through the corner and so the safety don't know exactly what toll because he's over here fighting with the corner and just pops CD wide opening between great throw by Dock. No, it was and I'm glad you mentioned that it's well designed.

You're talking about bringing him in motion, getting him on the move, and then it's almost like they're running a wheel route with the running back out of the backfield where we see so many times they're open, but he wheels it between and now you put the corner in the safety in a bind and he's just able and Dak reads it the whole way. It was a great design. And that's that's yeah. Yeah, we're we're all getting some

things that we asked for. Whether it's the Turpin plays where that's the scheme guys open, you know, just a lot more creativity of trying to help your players. There's no way that any team. I mean, yes, kans C has Kelsey and there's Kittle and all that. No, I don't think any team has three tight ends, really four Because McEwan, I thought, did a nice job on something on your on your on your your play to uh Turpin. He was in the play in the game. Yeah, he was in the game on the on the line and

they had a full back. They had a Hendershot as the full back and that's how they kind of ran the play. They these four tight ends, you know, really three, but but McEwan played them as well. I thought Schultz did a nice job. But Hendershot and me and Ferguson, I mean, they they've got something with these tight ends. They're only going to get better and when they get stronger and and and even more, you know in sync with that. Yeah, to your point though, I mean exactly

what you're telling. There was a sequence where they kept putting CD in the backfield and they kept running that. They kept running the RPO going to the right. They finally handed him the ball. It wasn't blocked well. The one time he tried to run, he got a little bit,

but they kept running it. But they what they were doing was they were taking the tight ends, all three of them, and they were bunching them together out why and then they put them right, and then they put them left, and then they put them out, and they kept doing it back. They basically flipped four different times exactly back and forth exactly they were doing those They threw a screen out yea twice. Yeah, there's screens out there. Twice they had it. They had the one down field

that really downfield. But it was like a comeback to to Schultz like they were they were playing off of this whole idea that and this is what I love about how Kellen did it. You send out three tight ends, the defense immediately thinks they're in big, so we need to match big on Big tweeted that, and then what happens is now they go up tempo, they didn't allow them to then get out of it once they saw

they got these tight ends out wide. Now the often the defense is stuck with their big package out there and they got linebackers out here to try to cover these guys in space, which isn't that's a favor for the Cowboys. So that's the kind of stuff that when we talk about be creative, Kellen Moore, that's creative. I love this. And two, to your point, though, you take the running backs out and you put a wide receiver

at running back. So now it's like, wait a minute, they're playing with a running backs as the half back, three three tight ends playing as like trips wide receivers. So now you're just totally messing with how they're how they're going to line up. And again to your point, up tempo, don't let them back into their into the bay to their personnel. And those are things also that you don't what you don't think about all the time is that's just one more package that now opponent's coming

up have to spend time working on. If they come out in this, here's how we're going to handle it, and you can play off of that. You can do some other things with that package. You can really go big and force them. Now if they decide they're gonna run out there with a smaller package because they think you're gonna put them out wide. Now, I'll actually run some players where you put them all in and you have them tight and then run from there. There's a lot of things you can do off that. I love

that he did that in that sequence. Are we gonna take our first break and we come back? One of the questions I have for you guys is what do you think was the most interesting thing that Kellen Moore did yesterday? Because we talked about someone, we talked about the tight ends, we talked about Turpin, we talked about dak as a runner. I want to know what you guys think is the most interesting thing. And then of

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ticketing provider of ATNC Stadium. Welcome back to second segment of The breaklof f in s WBC Mortgage Studios at the start. This segment brought to you by blockchain dot Com. And uh, here's my question for you. Guys. We talked about a little bit before the break. What stood out to you most about how Kell and Cawley offense and I talked about the tight ends, We talked about his use of turpin, We talked about how Dak was in the running game a little bit more yesterday. Could be

other things, but what stood out to you most? Well? For me, I mean we did talk about a lot of it. I mean what stood out the most is that you know, you have a guy that just scored a touchdown and everybody got his first career touchdown, everyone's high five in him, and then they showed that he was one inch away from scoring, so it's first and goal in the one, and then they don't give him the ball. I think you said one hundred percent you

should give it to him, right, Yeah? I did. I said it's one hundred percent chance that the ball's going to him. Was I wrong. I mean, it was a fake, so they went to him, but then he pulled it away. I can't believe he did that, honestly, but I think look going back and looking at it, I think you would have been stuffed for a one year at loss. So but anyways, that would have been interesting. I mean, but you know, then then we wouldn't have had one

of the coolest celebrations of all time. So the Rodeo movideo. You didn't see it. I didn't see it. You're too busy to make my notes. You don't care about you know. It's funny because usually, I mean, this is just me in my head. I'm thinking, like maybe there's some kind of not that I've seen anything to give me this impression.

But when you see younger tight Ends playing well, and then you got a guy that's on a franchise tag and all that you think, and this is me speaking, you think maybe there's some kind of animosity or of some sort there, and then to see that kind of celebration Dalton Shoals partaking it and be so like a teammate, you know, being part of the fun and just being just having fun out there and doing that kind of cele ray shot. It was just very refreshing and you're

like and pretty cool to see. So I definitely enjoy that celebration on my mouth. Cool. I was shocked that it was Scholtz down there. I thought I didn't think Schultz was the one, like that's the cattle, you know. Yeah, I thought it was gonna be hinder Shot, and no it was. It was. It was Fus That's what I'm saying. It was Schultz. So it was just it was kind

of refreshing to see that. Yeah, not every you know, lead tied end just kind of leaves the other two to the side, you know what I mean, and says, no, I'm not I'm not going to help you out. You know, not very often sometimes they all worked together in one big the emplier. You want to tell um, hey, Jason Witten, and he'll tell you. He goes, I'm not helping these young bucks to get up there and try to take my job. I'm not doing this young what bucks? Oh

I heard something else? Now, all right, Bryan, how do you follow that? The you know, I think the thing to me, you did see the creativity with the offense, you did see the no huddle, you did see the aggressiveness. You did see them make them. I think Kellen Moore was comfortable running the football the way they've been running the football, whether it's up inside. I think they did a great job of getting you know, getting the backup, running back ready to roll. I think the offense they said, no,

this is how we run the football. This is what we're gonna do. We're gonna run it inside when we have to. You know, the quarterback sneak was a great example of how the things have been kind of going for them in the running game a little bit. Yea, when you get you know, you get to be Oddish and Martin and you know, you get the whole side of the Bears defense to cave in and they don't even think it. They think it's gonna be a run. You know, I don't think it's gonna be quarterback sneak.

They're playing run and now Dak is just balanced out the gate. Here you go. But I think Kellen Moore, you know, he could have got it. Like last week on those third down runs, the Paul was going to the outside outside outside, No, he said, the heck with this,

We're gonna attack this. We're gonna attack the Bears, and so I think the last week was trying to kind of maybe see something different, but he realized, nah, we need to go at these guys running the football, and you know they you know, Malik did a great job. I mean there was some times in the past protection where Malik they got him ready to play. They got this kid ready to play to where Blitz pick up, they run a twist stunt. Him and Martin have to

sort things out. That's coaching, you know, that's that's Hey, this is a young kid that runs scout team all week and now he's thrown into a game to have to make a key block so the ball can get out. So, I mean, Kellen, the things that they were able to do, not be afraid or cautious because they had certain pieces out and to get galloped going early in that game, I think was a good thing on his part as well.

Let's talk about Tony Pollard in this run game. Tony Pollard yesterday was fourteen carriages, one hundred and thirty one yards and nine point four yard heverage. Amazing, three touchdowns. And I'm gonna ask this question, and I know it might be it might get some some weird rolled eyes but it's something that fans are talking about it. I

do think it's something that's worth a discussion. Is do you think that the Cowboys need to reconsider how they're deploying their two running backs after seeing what Tony Poller could do yesterday? Yeah, we'll get your more explosive guy and opportunities to be explosive, you know, I mean at some point, like like we saw it. I'll take you

back to two thousand and nine. I mean, Miles Austin starts a games, it starts because of an injury, has two hundred and fifty yards and two touchdowns in the game, Like like, okay, well maybe maybe he wasn't gonna start if he goes and doesn't do that. And now you're like, okay, if you've got that potential from start to finish of a game, maybe, So I got a stat for you, Okay, Tony Poler started three games at running back. Yeah, they

scored forty points in all three of those games. And now one of them he was not really the starter again the Falcons twenty twenty. But these two games that he started and he scored five touchdowns and these last two starts at running back, So I just think two weeks ago it was fifteen to twelve and Zeke. So it's fifteen to twelve. I said this on the air this morning radio in one O five three, sixty forty

for Zeke. If it's sixty forty for Pollard, I think that's fine and it helps it Zeke Stein And that's kind of what they're doing right now. They kind of ride at the hot hand in certain situations. Some games a little more polished, some games a little more Zeke. So really that wouldn't be a departure from what they've

been doing, right No. I mean, I'll let y'all chime in, but I but you can say this though, last that game against Detroit, maybe if Pollard gets a few more carries early in the game, it's not ten six in the fourth quarter. You know, he's got that home run ability. And so I've been I've been like fighting it. I've been in there on the Zeke corner and does all

this stuff. When you got a guy the fourth quarter breaking fifty five yard runs like that after he's had a bunch of carries, I think he brings an element that Zeke doesn't have. And I just think that they need to work. Maybe just must dodge it a little bit. Nothing crazy, They're both going to play a lot. Yeah, that to me was the most impressive part. You look at the fourth quarter and the way he was running the ball in the fourth quarter, and these were long.

You know, he was explosive throughout the whole game. But that's the wonder. It's like, Okay, can he hold up running constantly throughout the game and make it to the fourth quarter? And he showed that. So I think I'm

I hate to say this. You know, I've been team Zeke for the longest time and I love Zeke, but maybe this is a time where maybe we do need to see a little bit of that transition, just to see how it actually looks like and how the running game kind of how he changes when you just put polar as the lead, because I mean, it's hard to argue, it's hard to argue what he can do after seeing a game like the one we saw yesterday. The only thing you would worry about Pollard is when you played

the Commanders, you didn't run for anything. That was Zeke and Pollard. Yeah, you know that's the only thing that's The eye test will tell you right now that you should play Pollard more. But you know, I think this running game is involving the thing I really appreciate. Remember how many times we'd watch games and then Pollard would come in in the third series and he'd get the one series and if it was good, he kept going.

If it was bad, he was sitting on the sidelines, and then in the second half he'd get another one. I think they're doing a really good job of giving both of these guys opportunities. I think I think as you get to the second half, you're going to need both of these guys. But and I mean both of them in a way of Hey, if Pollard's getting fifteen and Zeke's getting fifteen, fine, whatever, whatever ratio it is, well, however you're winning the game, or you know, however you're

having success, go with that. The eye test will tell you, the ie test will tell you, Hey, this guy is explosive. The eye test will tell you the other guy runs with a lot of toughness. The other guy gets carries or third down converters, you know, and gets three or four yards when it's really really tough. You know. But there's also that time when I remember the Commander's game where they don't run for anything, both of them, and that's Pollard included. There was a couple of them where

it was some minus runs as well. So that's the thing that you know, I'm kind of like, I'm looking at that. I think they need to play both guys. I do. I think twenty seven carries, say on one guy, is a detriment for the next week and maybe for the next week after that. Fourteen and sixteen or fourteen and third, whatever that is for two guys, I think that's manageable. I think that's manageable for the season and

how you want to run the football, you know. I think it's encouraging that there's been games where Pollard has been the back when it's the four minute offense and they're trying to kill a game. I think that tells you that he can do it. But I think you're going to need both these guys. I agree. I think I think one of the tricky parts of this is is the passing game. Because if if the running back is going to stay in there and block, you want

Zeke and then that's nothing really against Pollard. He's not ze Zeke is tougher, bigger, stronger, and he has a nose for it. He's been doing it longer. Hey, he's better there. If that running back slips out of the backfield and you dump it off to him like that happened in the game yesterday, you want that guy to be Pollard out there in the open. So that's where

I think the tricky part comes in. Yeah, Pollard had a blitz pick up where it was actually they missed a block on ninety three for the It was justin Jones, defensive lineman got free and Pollard was looking outside and all of a sudden, he just launches his body just to sacrifice himself. He knew it's like listen, I gotta help, and Dad gets the ball down the field the Schultz

for a first down. But it was one of those times where you're like, you know, we're super mindful of Pollard and then you say, oh wait, look he did it. He actually he showed awareness and he saved a play. There is that the free play? Yeah, well it was not there. It was not the free play that the thirty yarder to Scholtz. No, No, this was it was a different It was a different throw. I think it was a different throw. Nick I got to go back. But I know I remember just him lunging back inside

to to to help Dak throw the ball. What was his call that he said that the line that they said in the meeting that they were talking about yesterday that he said is if you if they make the call? Yeah he did. But see that's that's the thing about it is there's there's that question about is the is he physical enough to pick up? But there he didn't have to be physical enough. He just had to be aware, aware, and sometimes being aware and let them run over you

to get to the quarterback. That'll slow him down just enough. If you just let him run over you, you're actually blocking. Yeah, you know. So I think you just got to look at him. What it changes week by week depending on the opponent. You know, you got to look at what the defense are doing to you, because I do think there are times that Zeke is better going at it because of his body built, his tra as opposed to

paulardt other occasions he's more the explosive one. So you found that Nick's right, it was a thirty yard play, yeah, because which was off side three? Yeah? Three? Yeah, they go to get off side to get three vertical up top and then also then twenty yeah, he gets just enough of that defender, so it's the ball gets out and you're right, Nick, it was the thirty yard pass play and that's that's that was the setup, and that was a huge play in the game. It's twenty eight,

twenty three. It's the third nine, third nine nine. Now they got off side, so it was probably gonna be third and four. I didn't think from our viewpoint, I didn't think Charles had a prayer of catching that pass. And then just the way it looked, it was like, yeah, I thought he sailed it over it, but he made a nice catch. It kind of was Witten like, you know, down the seam in the middle of the field, but

you know, to answer right there. And I think that goes back to what this offense and that's why I'm excited about what the offense did, was that they they needed a couple of answers. They need to come out and hit him in the mouth, which they did. Then

a couple of times they had to answer. They showed if you get in one of these type of games, they can do that, and that that twenty eight twenty three to come back and score like that and then get the well dub and then the way they played the two point plays too, right, I mean because Tank sack you know, I mean he was a block. Yeah, I mean, you know, you can't give it. You give up points there. It's a three point game right there. You keep it a touchdown game by Tank, you know,

destroying the play. Yeah, the quarterback, I said that. I said, the fields had a lot of interesting plays in the game, and he's going to be really good quarterback. But his best play was getting up from that. Yeah, like he took one. Yeah, And sometimes an athletic quarterback can hurt you, you know, because sometimes, yeah, there's a lot of quarterbacks that can't jump over Mike and Parsons. So some would just say, you know what, I'm just gonna touch him.

I can't do that. But the things one the things you always talked about as a quarterback is he is he football intelligent? Aware? Is he aware of football intelligence? Something? Yeah? Weird, we gotta take our final bike, will come back. Let's talk about the defensive side of the ball. Those some interesting things worth noting from that game. Does that when we come right back. Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. The season is finally here. For months, we've been gearing up

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I'm so happy it's the bye week we've got. This is the last show I'm gonna get to do with you guys this week. Starting tomorrow, we will mix everything up. When you guys come and tune into the Break and pretty much every other podcast we do, you will have a whole different set of people on air. The host will say the same, nothing else will. So it makes you tune in tomorrow see how we mix this. Coming

in for the break, We've got uh, Aisha Morrison. We've got she was going on one O five three last night. She is really good, a good job, really good, a good job, kay. And so it got Aisha on the break. We got Barry Church on the break, Brian, you're going to talk in me Nate and yes, Kyle Yo, Yeah, we're early the morning when Nick, I'm going to hanging with the boy for one for one day and then

I'm also going to girls talk, boys talk. That fits so well, that's a good and where are you going, I know exactly that Amber's getting a tropical vacation out of this. So yeah, goodbye week. All right, let's talk about the defensive side of the ball. They allowed two hundred and forty yards rushing. Yes, yeah, My question for you,

how concerned are you with this rushing defense? They've had some issues earlier in the season, but you could also justified yesterday they were just playing a team that was dedicated to running the ball. That's what happens when you do that. How concerned are you today? I'm not that concerned.

I mean, I think this team Chicago, somebody hasn't gonna get a bonus if they lead the league in rushing over there's some US coach or whatever, and they're gonna they're doing it, and it's like, oh, down, we're gonna run this ball, like like they're not going to get out of the running game. That's fine, that's why they lead the league and rushing. I mean, what three or were they three and six? Three and five, five, three and five? I mean what three and five team leads

the league in rushing? I mean that that's the one that doesn't trust their quarterback much. Well true, and one they should trust that guy, I think a little bit more than they do. He proved that he played pretty good. I don't know when we're going to see them again, don't you know. Who knows? You never know. I mean it won't be next year, it'll be it'll be a couple of years or whatever. He's gonna be way better. Yeah,

he's good. He is gonna be good once he gets a little awareness, stops jumping people and and you know, but I also need some help to his receiver. I mean, yeah, Mooney's good. Mooney Mooney could help him, though. I mean, I'll see this about their running game. This, this is what makes it difficult because of like we talk about the stress with the running quarterback, which you know, I mean scrambles and things like that. I mean, Tank had

him three or four times. I felt like that, you know, I mean, I know Xadre probably two times where he had him and others had him and he's scrambling and he's gaining yards. That that's that's a problem. They're they're dropping back with the intent to pass and then he takes off running and now it's a It's basically a running play, is what it is. So the thing that teams are doing to the Cowboys in the running game

and especially in the perimeter stuff. They've tried to shore up the middle with the linebackers and the defensive line. And by the way, your new defensive tackle didn't play bad. He did what exactly what he needed him to do. Now it doesn't it doesn't show when it happens on the outside. Teams have figured out they don't block you one on one. They know they can't block like a Parsons one on one. What they do is they shield him. They shield him, or they'll chop him, or they'll do

stuff to where they affect how he plays. And it's much easier in a running game to down block, down, block, and then pull guys out. And they were able to do that several times. Some of the really good runs that they had were that the crack toss, I mean the quarterback power that they scored on no no crack there or no toss, crack crack, get lineman out, you know, the fourth and the fourth and one player. Derek I mentioned that they had a chance, Dallas had a chance

to get off the field. They slant the front to the side of the of the run of the toss, they're in great shape, Diggs is unblocked on the edge. Diggs all of a sudden kind of goes uh, you know, one of those you know, you know that's what he did, and you know, and all of a sudden, you know, literally, if you have somebody screaming off that corner, Lea's cutting him down, it's Dallas's ball on a fourth down and

now the drive's not going. They you know, they slant their front and then throws them off or they get crack crack and then pulls it gets the corner. I've said it before when you watch Dallas when they struggle, it's the edges get cracked or sealed. The next guy, linebacker gets sealed. And that linebacker could be Curse who's down there playing low, and so he's kind of having to fight it and you got an edge that's huh again, you know. So that's that's the issues. And just to

make sure that that people understand what you're saying. Bout down block down, block, yeh, then pull. What happens basically, you got the two outside angle angle, Yeah, you got a tight end and you got a wide receiver. They're

both blocking down. Some hit they'll hit the defensive end, they'll hit the safety, and then they'll pull the two offensive linemen behind them behind the outside right, and now you've got this situation where now those those defensive players have to fight through all this track get out to

the running back. It's just it's hard. They ran They ran a toss early in the game that Brown played exactly how you're supposed to play it because Riley Reef, the big number seventy one, gets out and what does Brown do? He dives underneath. He dives underneath, and now Riley Reef can't block him, and now everybody's there to make the tackle because they had you muddy it up to you muddied it up. Yeah, Instead they're like, it's

so easy to downblock it. That's what happens. They don't take Micah Parsons on head on and trying, you know, hooking, They just down block him. And what happened. Parsons started saying, uh, no more jump. He started just jumping around. He started just jumping, and they were they were missing him, but you know, and they were getting guys up. But that's

what people are doing to you. They're they're forcing your edge to have to play their corner to half to play, you know, and there's some inside runs and stuff like that where, yeah, it happens, but where you give up your big plays or when down block down, block around and then a soft corner right there, and Hankins ain't gonna help you with that. No he can't get past the d Yeah, but no, the inside runs and stuff he took on double teams. Now, I'll say this about Clark.

I thought it was a little rough for him in this first game, you know, but hell, he played. He played a ton. He was kind of like, Okay, I'm supposed to be here. I guess I'm supposed to be Yeah, some snaps. Yeah it was top. I mean, he had a couple of plays, a couple of tackles and stuff like that. But you know, he's gonna have to get

the feel for that stuff. He really is. But man, these teams have figured out if you're gonna play soft corner, soft edge, and they can down block you and take you out of that boom, they can run the football over there. I think that, you know, this is something we need to be talking about at some point about is there more to this game that you want to get to. I mean, I just think, you know, last year, Michael Parson is gonna win Rickie of the Year, but

we're like, what about Defensive Player of the Year. Now, I think he has a really good chance to win Defensive Player of the Year. Maybe you should go higher than that, seriously, because he is the most valuable player on this football team. When he's off for four or five snaps, the Bears go right down the field. They're having to do everything to scheme against him, and all we can't block like this, we gotta do this and this and this. He affects this team, which affects the defense,

which affects the offense. And this is a good football team. You have to be a good football team. So if they can get up in the mix and they keep playing like this, I think that it's time to start looking at maybe a defensive player. Being in the conversation for MVP, I really think that's how good he is. I was trying to think of the last one. I mean, I know Lawrence Taylor won it. Did Woodson was Woodson defensive player? They're a defensive back? Oh for the Packers? Yeah?

That one year. I don't know. I mean, I just stolen that out there. But I mean the thing about you're right about Micah and but man, it's like they're

they're they're going after his knees. Guys, they're like bringing guys commit and those guys are coming across the formation and they're cutting him and which is they're cutting his left leg and he's spinning out of that and stuff like I think is so crazy because defensive guys can't do that to offensive You talked about Brown, how these Yeah, if he would have just attacked his legs, yeah, they would call palty on that. Yeah, I know they're doing college.

I think they're in the pro. I don't think you can just cut a guy in the move like that, but they on offense, he can do it to the inside the tackle box. One of those weird rules where the offense can do it. But if you can't hit the quarterback in the face, but you can cut the

guys at that. You can't grab a ice mask. But if you're happening to be hitting the gay straight arm and you're hitting the spaces to seven cowboys at the half, if if Goldston doesn't hit him up there like that, they're gonna get a field golf that pick by digs thirty one seven and then it's that it's twenty eight seventeen. I couldn't tell from the end zone copy. They went away from it quick. I mean, I was hoping it, but it looked like from the sidelines, it looked like

you hit him in the head. Hit him in the head. Shorter quarterback, bigger defensive. I mean, you just gotta be by the way. It's unfair. We all know it's unfair, but it's just it's the plight of it. And I also think, I just think when it comes to defensive players, they gotta move the target lower. You gotta go for the mid section and target the mid section because that's not gonna move. But then you get then you hit low though, you get these officials that think you're hitting

mid section and you're going low on a guy. But and they'll call that too in the mid section. I mean, like, well, I know, but the target is I understand, No, but I'm understand. But some of these officials think if you have a quarterback kind of goes down and you hit him in the midsection, well they're thinking they're going low on a guy. Huh. And I don't know he was holding on both teams in this game. By the way, too,

just have the quarterback where the stupid belt and the flag. Yeah, god, Lawrence Taylor was the last defensive player okay eighty six, Okay, that long ago. The one before that was Alan Page in nineteen seventy one. Oh people, only two people, two defensive players. I was only one alive here that saw him win that. I was still just a thought from

my pops is it's like baseball. You know, they have a Cy Young award, So that guy doesn't usually win MVP, you know, because we have an award for you, you know, defensive player. You're just give him that. They'd be happy and let's give it to somebody else and maybe it'll be he's an incredible player. Yeah, he's just you know, for being This team goes off their defense, and the defense is obviously you know, runs from everything through Micah. So I think it's something to be talking about. I

appreciate you, guys, Jonas. We'll be back. I will be back tomorrow. These guys will be on. Makes you check all our shows tomorrow. It'll be interesting to hear some different opinions from some different matchings and pairings until then for Nick even Brian brought us Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.