The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. As Tuesday, December third, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode number ninety three. Welcome to another edition of The Break. We're
Alive from the s WBC Mortage Studios. At the start, we got forty five minutes, so we got a lot to get into. We're gonna talk about some injuries, got some storylines that Nick has worked up for you. On the Cowboys versus Bears. Day's gonna give us a scoutter report on the on the on the Bears defense, and by the end of the show, Amber's gonna tell you who's gonna win the game. So we got a lot to do today. Let's start first with some guys that did not practice yesterday and get caught up on their
injury status. Randall Cop, Jeff Heath, Layton Vanderesh, Antoine Woods, Dave, what would you see from them today. I assume you went out to practice before the show. I actually didn't. Didn't, okay, but our offices are we went out to practice. Okay, I watched practice. I'm multitask today. You put it that way, I'm multi task. Uh, Layton Vanderesh isn't gonna play in this game, all right? X Randall Cop is back at practice. He should be available. That was an illness, correct, Yes, yeah,
he's he's fine. And actually I saw him yesterday while Black practice was going on. He was entering the building, so he wasn't at the building yesterday as well. Um, just like last week. I think Jeff Heath is going to be the one I didn't. I didn't see him out there today. He didn't play in the game, which was honestly a little bit surprising to us. I think we kind of say we thought he could get through it. Antoine Woods, No, I think Jeff Heath is the guy
to watch. But I think it's going to be a very similar cast of characters for this game as it was for the Bills. How do you feel about Darien Thompson also being limited in practice with Jeff Heath being out. I think that Darian Thompson is more of like a you know, there's a lot of guys listed as limited, and all those limited guys seem to be okay. That
just yeah, you know, Jason Garrett, this isn't encouraging. But Jason Garrett said this morning, Tyrant Smith pop back up on the injury report with an achilles, but yeah, limited, it's yeah, you would think it's sore or something. Yeah, no, I know, but he was out there today. He's been out there all week, and everybody's fighting through about nineteen
things right now. It's just the nature of football. But yeah, yeah, hate here in that word, like that's got to be top five words you don't want to hear in regard to a football player or anybody. Really. Yeah. Yeah. The good news of all of that stuff you just mentioned, Amari Cooper practice full yesterday after you know what happened to him last game, So it looks like he's ready to go. And he said yesterday in the locker room.
I think that the quote was something to the effect of, you know, this time year, everybody's banged up, but I'm good to go. So he also said, yes, this is easily the most amount of stuff I've ever had to fight through in a season. I couldn't believe that. You know, he hasn't missed any time this week. I thought his season might be over when he took that hit. Obviously, Yeah, so cost to him. He's fine, he'll be available. I
certainly didn't think he'd be practicing this week. My thought was, this is going to be one of those weeks where you don't practice, you see how you feel by game time, and then hopefully he's ready to go. He said he expected. He said he expected to wake up on Friday morning and you know, just being a tremendous amount of pain, and he was like surprised when he woke up and
felt okay. I mean, this whole thing's been tough to read for him, and not really in a negative way, but like, you know, he didn't look like he was anywhere close to playing after the Jets game. He did, he didn't had no interest, He had no there was not he wasn't gonna go back and play in that game. You could just tell. And so that looks like he's not gonna play the next week. But he does. He plays. He plays really well against I think it was the Packers.
So then you know, even the whole contract situation. I mean, you would thought you would have thought he even signed by now, but he's not. I mean, he takes his big hit, he's not gonna play. Oh man, this is gonna be really bad, but he comes back. I'm not saying that he that he fakes it or anything like that. I'm just saying he's tough to read. What do you think you're gonna see from him? Hasn't really happened? Yeah,
I mean is what it is. Honestly, it's getting a point where it's not as tough to read him my opinion, just from the standpoint you're starting to realize he's just a tough dude that if it's at all possible for him to play, I think you will play. And he puts in context that game where he didn't come back. It tells me he must have really been in pain, because he's dealt with some pretty you would think, some pretty painful moments and he's played through most of them
this season. So it tells me in that moment, like he really thought, I'm going to be a detriment to my team being out there. Worst injury of the season. If we ever do those articles that say, like, what was the toughest one, now, Jets whatever he was dealing with the Jets game, that was the toughest one to me because they were shorthanded, they didn't have any receivers in the back end, and they kicked the Jets ass.
If he plays in the game and they don't end as they've said last week, you beat the Jets changes everything about this team, and you know, just perception of the team, the record, everything, but different if you beat the Jets. I'm gonna take a little D two here. Since we started talking about Amari Cooper, there was a report that came out yesterday, false report, but a report nonetheless that basically said that Cowboys probably wouldn't be able to resign him or Byron Jones. Then he addressed it
in the locker room yesterday. Tell me what Amri said about the likelihood of him signing back with the Cowboys when the season's done. At some point you talk about, yeah, like Amari Cooper just does the opposite of like's what you would expect I think from a pro football player. That was really surprising yesterday. Like that came up because of the report that came out over the weekend and he was like, yeah, I love it here. You know, I've been more productive here than I've been in Oakland.
Why would I want to leave? Like, why would I If it ain't broke, don't fix it. That was his exact quote. And you know, the money has to be right, and he kind of alluded to that, he said, I haven't really thought about the open market. I'm not Trump put the cart before the horse. But He's like, I feel like I'm at home here. This is absolutely where i want to be. Yeah, which, yeah, I'm I'm aggravated by the speculation that's kind of going around about that.
Like you know, we speculate about Dak and Amari all offseason. It reaches a fever pitch at the start of the season, nothing happens. You kind of settle into a groove where
you're playing games. And now the seasons a month from being over, and people are just throwing stuff at the wall because you're like, well, yeah, like they're probably headed for a franchise tag like well, of course, because the season's ending and then you know February, that type of stuff has to be designated and marches when the market opens. People just throw speculation up there. Because they know how the calendar works, and it creates a national news story
because it's the Dallas Cowboys. But the fact is Cowboys will have to do a deal with either a Mari or DAK before the franchise tag designation because they only have one to use. Correct that's not necessarily true. Depending on CBA negotiations. They could theoretically use franchise tag transition
tag at the same time. Kind of transition tag. They use transition tag on one franchise on the other, they could would you choose to franchise which well, and throw Byron Jones in there, but again, by like you can just do the math and be like, well, Byron has always likely been the odd man out in that scenario unless something happens. And again, so it's just national reporters throwing stuff out there because of the Cowboys name. Using common sense and reading tea leaves, which all of us
can do, and we've all been talking about it since September. Okay, okay, whatever I mean, it's not. I mean Cooper's first round draft pick of this team. You see, he's gonna be on the team. That's why you trade for him, because he's going to be on the team, So, I mean, I get his injuries concerned me though, franchise guess how you structure the contract? You would? Yeah, I mean, because that's a one year deal of what eighteen nineteen million?
What's the what's the dat franchise tag? Twenty eight No thanks, I'd rather sign him, get the get the damn thing done, Sign him, and then you can, you know, change the numbers around. You can kind of you can mess with those numbers because it's going to be such a big deal. Yeah, I'm definitely getting but you're gonna sign him both, I think. Yeah, that's that's just the fun of this thing, is that writers like to get their names, you know, mentioned on
the radio. That's what happens. Well, that's that's the point of this thing, is that both players. I don't think there's any reason to believe that either the player or the organization wants to part ways in either of those cases. So when you have to deal two people that want to get a deal done, a deal gets done. It's just it's it's because it's the Dallas Cowboys is what makes it aggravating. Because I could have come on this podcast in September and said, well, the season has started.
You don't see deals happen during the season. Very often. We'll see what happens, but unless both sides come to an agreement, you could theoretically see a situation where one of these guys is tagged. And even if that's just a placeholder, that happens all the time. It happened to
DeMarcus Lawrence less than twelve months ago. But time is running out on the season and somebody with a larger audience repackages the same non news and all of a sudden, people are freaking out, like, oh my god, did you hear Dak or Mari might have to be tagged? Well, no, duh, Like that's that's the business of the NFL. There's nothing new about it. But it's the Dallas Cowboys and stuff like that gets said all the time. Has he lost money a Mari? I mean, has his price tag gone
up or down? You think, I don't know if it's changed at all? Has it from the beginning here? I'm more about Dak. I mean, I mean you think Dak has made money. Dak has made money. I think you think maybe a little bit. Unless the cow even if the number, even if the number was the same, even if the number was the same. I think the Cowboys feel better about paying Let's say the Cowboys already thinking, hey, you know we would pay him thirty four, we paim
thirty five. I think they feel a lot better about paying him thirty four thirty four now than they did back there. But if they haven't been and they may have been like now, they may be like, hey, maybe we would pay him if they weren't willing paim thirty five before him. Now maybe they're like, hey, thirty five's a bargain for what we've seen. Well, he's still six and six. I mean, like, I think he's played better than we thought, but at the six and six, so
they haven't. He hasn't done He hasn't put him in a position where you think, you know, you would think they would be. I mean, you're right, and it's no, you're it's disappointing. Blah blah blah. Kirk Cousins went seven and nine the year before he signed his overrated and overpaid but he set the market, but literally set the market. Okay, but the Cowboys don't have to follow it. I mean, you pay the market too, And they didn't go get
Jamal Adams because the Rams set the market. But when you pay a quarterback, you're not necessarily paying him because he's the best quarterback in league. You're paying him whatever the market rate is because you found a quarterback and you don't want to let that quarterback. I get it, I get it, But I'm just saying I think Dak's people have I think I don't think he's helped himself
that much. I think his stats are really nice, but they're not winning games, and that's what quarterbacks are supposed to do. Yeah, but when you look at other every team thinks that they can take a player and make them better, buy their own coaching and all of that.
I think that what Dak has been able to do this year, regardless of winning games and all that, just stat wise, completion wise, and his progression as a quarterback, I think it did change, at least even my own opinion what I thought of him before the start of the season versus what I think of him as a right now and what he can continue to become as a quarterback. That's the key to me is what I
projected him. What I've seen this year suggests to me that his trajectory says he's going to be a really, really good quarterback, and so what you're paying for is the projection, not so much necessarily he is right. Now, what about Amari Cooper? Same, Yeah, I think Amari is about the same as he was. I mean, I don't think anybody's putting him among them. I don't think anybody
would say he's the best receiver in football. He's certainly like he's on a short list, but I mean I would slot him in there behind Julio and a few other like I don't know that he's made, you know, a twenty million dollars salary or anything. I mean he's behind Julio and Michael Thomas and definitely behind Hopkins and you know. And yeah, I mean I think he's played
well and considering his injuries and all that. But you know, like I said before, I had more of a problem than you guys did about the goose egg that he put up against New England, especially when you saw, you know that Gilmore was, you know, he was not having a great day against some of those guys from the Texans.
So that's the game. I give him a little bit more like I have more of a problem with the way he played against in this last game, or the way he played maybe if you want to throw out the Saints game, that to me is more of a problem just because I look at I look at the weather in New England. I'm like, I don't know that a lot of quarterbacks would have been able to function very well in that kind of weather. It just kind of is what it is, those kind of days. I'm
sorry we talking about Dad. I'm sorry, I thought you're talking about Deck. Okay, guy either way, Yeah, I mean, I got you, okay. But to me, it's like when you lay out all the games. He's been pretty consistent all throughout the year, and everyone has a bad game. You know, that's just naturally it's going to happen once in a while. But I think you just have to look at it more as an overall rather than pointing
out a single game. Yeah, he's played well, but I'm just saying I think when you're looking at negotiating, you can say, you know, just like the Cowboys, when you go up against the best, how did you do? And I will say that Dak needs to help himself by winning some games here, because if not, then if you're an eight and eight quarterback, that's not going to help as far as Okay, so going along that track though, do you think that, let's look at those eight losses.
Do you think that the majority of those losses, half those losses were due to Dak not playing well enough? Yes, most of them. I firmly believe that the quarterback needs to play better. If you if you don't win, they need to play better. And I can say that because I Dak will stand it right in front of his locker and the podium and say the exact same thing. Yeah, that's what's supposed to say. That's what good leaders do.
I get them. But even that, I mean I mean Green Bay, New Orleans, New England, Yes, yes, yes, yeah, and I mean everybody gets everybody gets a big al for the Jets game, every single player of the team. So yeah, more than half of their losses he needed to play better. He's not not necessarily played better, but not the reason why they lost. Well, I guess that's and maybe I said it the wrong way because I guess I look at it and I'm he's down the
list for me. As far as guys that I think if they would have played better, the Cowboys win on some of those games. There are some games where I'm like, the quarterback, that's on you, dude. But but there are certain games where I feel like there were other parts of the team that failed them more than the quarterback did. And that's where I still get back to if you look at where he is in this year of his development as an NFL quarterback, to the arrow's pointing way up,
you know love da don't. I'm not saying that they shouldn't. Oh yeah, you know how you got Yeah, I'm already getting it, I'm sure. But the thing about it is is that I'm just saying you need, you need to
win games because it does affect him. If you know, he's the he's the reason this team is supposed to be winning or losing, and as the quarterback, you don't really want to put an eight in eight out there, which that right there, to me says that you may have changed your opinion on what you thought of him at the beginning of year, because I think at the beginning of year we probably all would have said, Zeke,
you're the reason that they're going to be winning or losing. Yeah, to be putting it on the quarterback means we've kind of changed in our minds what we expect of Dak, what's your level, what's your put it on a percentage like level of concern about giving Amari and Dak at or near market value contracts, just like you like one hundred percent you're like, don't sign this guy at all, let him go, Or zero percent you're like, how are we doing with the coach? First, are let's talk about
how much money and spending on these players? Because I'm like, if you're gonna waste the talent on the field, then why waste the money. So first we got to the coach. Actually, I disagree. I think Amari and Dak have both played well enough that independent of who's coaching this team, I feel good about them being here. Absolutely, But regardless of what I'm saying, it's like, what is that talent and that invested money going to get you to That's a
whole different show. Those two guys come back next year with new deals and they play to the level of DeMarcus Lawrence and Zeke. This year, the Cowboys are going to have problems because Zeke has not done he has not done what you thought he would do with that money. DeMarcus Lawrence hasn't either. Jalen Smith, let's put that one in there. Three guys all got signed. They haven't played as well as they did last year. So if those two guys get paid and that happens again, that's the
scary That is the scary. That is a scary thing about paying about paying your own guys, because you do see it from time and time where guys get paid and all of a sudden, for whatever reason. I'm not saying that they take it any less serious, but for whatever reason, the production doesn't seem to always follow that. You know, including this season, the Cowboys probably have about a three year window before all these contracts really start
to mess with their ability to add talent. And you know, there's four games left to play, but it doesn't look like this is going to be the season that they capitalize on it. Maybe I'm wrong, and not only that doesn't look like it. The one thing I'll say about that, though, too, is there's a new CBA come and that new CBA may change all that because you got new TV deals coming up in another i think two or three years as well. That all can change the whole financial outlook
of the NFL. You know, you may all of a sudden be playing with extra hundred million dollars in cap space that you know, that makes it to where all these big deals really don't matter, right, Yeah, But I never agree with that because they're all going to get amount of money. So if you if the Cowboys have an extra amount of money, that's fine, but the Buccaneers will have an extra you know, hundred No. My point is, though, that means you're not in salary cap like you're not
in it. Like Dave's point was, there's gonna come a point where all these contracts are gonna get catch up to you to where you now can't really go out and sign players. You add another one hundred million dollars to the cap, then it doesn't matter. You can cover all these plus some, right, But it sort of does. But that's another show because I'm just saying, because then now everyone's got all this extra money. Now they're paying an average defensive end twenty three million a year when
you've got DeMarcus lords, you know what I mean. So you think DeMarcus then goes back to the web. I'm just saying, it just keeps going over and over to more he needs to play better. But what's to say that market gets up to eighteen million a year and you've got two guys sitting at ten, they're gonna happy to stay at ten. We'll see. This is like a March show. I know it really is. All right, we're
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number twenty nineteen. Back to the Break. Welcome back as the second segment of the Break laugh in the WBC Mortgage studios. At the start, we got way off track and at last segment, we're gonna jump back on track. This segment, Nick start us off by talking about the storylines Cowboys versus there, all right, the Bear storylines. I'll do this quickly. They're six and six. It's not the
same as the Cowboys six and six. They're they're way back in their division because they actually have good teams in their division. The Cowboys are obviously six and six in the lead, but there's still six and six, so it'll be interesting game there. As far as Mitchell Trubisky, he talked about it yesterday. He's just kind of struggling. Unless they're playing the Lions. He hasn't been that good.
But we'll see. You know, we've seen. Was it Josh McCowen or who was the quarterback that just killed him in that game? And yeah, Josh McCown way back in thirteen. It happened. Sometimes there other defenses unbelievable days. Gonna talk about that little bit. And here's the stat I like about Khalil Mack six and a half sacks this year, five forced fumbles, so he only gets there, but he knocks the ball out. David Montgomery. That was one of the things I talked about. He's second in the NFL
and rushing yards for rookies though. Um. And then one guy that you do have to watch for. I don't know if he's gonna make his list is Cordarell Patterson. He is a beast. He leads the league and kickoff returns and he will bring it out. It doesn't matter where the ball is, he's coming out with it. He had one hundred and two yard kickoff return. He's had seven in his career, which is third in NFL history. He's one of the best kick returners in the history
of the NFL. Really, no doubt. He was sept Wow. Seven for touchdowns. There's two guys with eight. Um, No, he's a more. He was a pump return guy. Hey, he had kickoffs. He had something super Bowl, but everyone in Super Bowl but um, Leon Washington and Joshua Cribbs had eight. I didn't know Leon Washington was at that. I didn't think so either. Josh Cribs, I knew, did but but Cordarell Patterson, he's had some. He's had one
hundred and nine one as well. So you know, like Tony poll is waiting for the ball to get past them and then he boomed, it's a touchback. This guy he needs to get it in my heart needs to kick it in the gold or is not happening. Yeah. The funny thing about the Bears is they can the Cowboys can probably relate like they are a really good defense.
But I feel like they're victims of their own expectations this year because I mean they're they're seventh and total defense, they're top ten across the board, their fourth and scoring, and yet at the same time, you're kind of like, oh, man, like they're not doing as well as I thought they would do, just again because of the expectations. Like they have twenty eight sacks on the year. That's less than the Cowboys do. So we're I mean, we're sitting here
saying DeMarcus needs to play better. MALIEK. Collins, you know, he hasn't been as good as we thought. It's kind of the same for the Bears. Mali Khalil max six and a half sacks. I mean that's that's not what you expect from this world wrecking you know guy that everybody knows from the trade from Oakland and everything. They only have thirteen takeaways this season, which you know, going all the way back to when Marinelli was there, the
Bears are famous for. It just seems like they get turnovers, you know, three or four a game. It's not happened this year. Mac has got five forced fumbles, but uh they don't have anybody that gets picks the way that. Um that some of their older you know, the dbs of old the people Timant, Denil Manning and all that type of stuff. Um, Hi, sorry, we've got are my bad. Um. So I mean that said, they are really good. I mean I just read all the stats off for you.
I think a big part of it is a Keem Hicks has been on injured reserve for most of the year, really underrated nose tackle in that defense. I think he opens things up for everybody else. He is coming back next week, so chalk that up as another fortunate miss for the Cowboys. They have not capitalized on the vast majority of those. Uh, so he won't be there in this game. So I think, um, you know that that takes that detracts the quality of this front a little bit.
I think, like I said, he opens things up for other guys. Danny Trevathan and Roquan Smith two really good you know, sideline to sideline type of linebackers. Um Smith from Georgia, Right, yeah, man, Yeah, he was, he's he's he's good. He's not. I don't know that he's playing up to the billing yet. He has mirrors the Cowboys so much because last year those linebackers, they were talking about them the way they were talking about vander Eshan
and Jaylen Smay. Don't fall into the trap, Derek. Last week, remember Dave was kind of like you know, ed Oliver is good. Absolutely again one more time, hit Oliver. I didn't say at Oliver's bad. You just said that it started, which shows the depth of what the Bills are. But defense, yeah, you made it better yesterday because you told us that the offense for the Bears is really great. I'm not good. I'm not a scout. I didn't just tell you what
I watched. Which is funny because the last game they put on tape, they didn't play very well against David Blow. I don't even know how to pronounce David it's either blah blah blah. I don't know. He's a seventh round pick out of Purdue. The Bills put up three hundred and ninety yard I mean the Bills. The Lions put up three hundred niney yards on these guys. They ran the ball well four yards per carry, hundred yards on the day. I will say it's interesting. His first pass
of the day was a seventy five yard touchdown. Guy just got behind Prince of Mukamara. Looked like there was a little bit of a communication lapse, and then in his first six he went four of six for one thirty and two touchdowns to start the day. He finished with two hundred and eighty. So I think the Bears
figured it out after a while. It's it's more fun to poke fun at him for giving up big plays to a seventh round pick, But they figured him out after a while because he needed thirty eight passes to throw for two eighties. So you know, they still gave up the plays, but I think they kind of buckled down a Mukamara's got a hamstring injury. He classified himself as a game time decision, So that's something to watch What do you want there? You want him to play
or not. I'll take I'll take the GEMPI guy who has not played up to his draft stock in the first place, healthy or not, Like he's never been really good against the Cowboys, way with the Giants and all that, Like he's been a guy you're like, go get out there. By all means, yeah, I'm fine with the Mukamara playing. Kyle Filler's a really fuller, is a really good cover guy. He doesn't have the picks this year, kind of mirroring
the Cowboys, right, Like good coverage, not getting takeaways. This whole like that whole defense just mirrors to me what the Cowboys were last year to this year. You know, yeah, I very much agree with that they have an edge at safety. I mean, I know, and I know, but I think Eddie Jackson's a really good player. Em and Haha Clinton Dicks are a nice pair back there. They're both I know. The Cowboys say their guys are versatile.
That's not true. These guys are both versatile in the sense that either one of them can play up or back again. I was I was surprised when I looked into this and found out how few takeaways they have they I mean, they're right there with the Cowboys in terms of not taking the ball away. So you know, i'd heard that drop in a while, the hahaha Clinton Dicks won, Maybe we don't have it anymore. I guess he left the division, so okay, But I mean the
talent's definitely there. And like I said, I mean, you're nitpicking because this is still a top ten unit. But I think people in Chicago are probably like, oh, weren't these guys better last year? Like what happened? Where? Where did our elite, elite defense go? Do you think that? Is this one of those units that you think and turned on any given week? Or they have some systematic problems. Maybe it's because Hicks isn't there, Like is this a team that this week could be their defense could be
back to what it was last year. Here's a fun Here's a fun stat that I stole from a Bears beat writer off of Twitter. Dallas has owned five against top ten defenses this year and the Bears are solidly in the top ten. So yeah, I do think, I mean, I think the Bears are capable of doing something with that. Twitter, Yes, I did. Why did you have it too. Sorry Cowboys storylines, but it's okay because they were four. They're owing three going into the Bill's game. They lost that one, so
oh and four. I mean the Jets have a top ten defense, so do the Saints. Yeah, I and yes, And I think tail as old as time. I think they will focus on the run game, you know, for all to talk about how Zeke doesn't have it. I think you're still seeing defenses making an effort to stop that first outdoor game. I know the weather's not supposed to be absolutely miserable, but I think you stand a way better chance of having of asking the Cowboys to
pass their way to a win in conditions like windy. Yeah, that's the part you got to worry about there, is it windy in Chicago? I mean that's what they would say, right, heard things about that that could be the problem here and not the coal the win. That could be the issue. All Right, We're gonna take our final break. We will come back, and I want to talk a little bit about something that Jerry Jones said this morning on the radio station the Fan here Dallas with Sean and r J.
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to get tickets before they sell out. Tickets are on sale now at steat dot com. Get your tickets. All right, I want to talk a little bit about something that Jerry said earlier this morning. He was on his on the local radio show here on the Fan with Sean and RJ and I don't even remember what the question was, but basically they were talking about Jason Garrett his future here and and Jerry kind of threw this out at the end of his statement, but it was it didn't
go unhurt like. It was almost just at the end, almost as it's come just this little like I think he was just wrapping things up. But it was, in my opinion, the most interesting comment of what he said. Basically, he said he expects that Jason Garrett will be coaching in the NFL next year. What are your thoughts on that? My thought on that is Jerry Jones is aware that he is the final authority on whether or not Jason Garrett coaches here. Right, Maybe what if Jason Garrett says out, well,
M maybe theoretically possible to sign this thing. I'm tired of this crap. What if he says that it's possible, like, it's very possible. They finished their game. They finished their game, and whatever that game is January February, I'm sorry, December or January? Wow, and ruling February out. Huh, well, show
me something before we talk about that. Okay, But but for a now, let's just say they finished the game in December January, and it's possible that Jason could be like, you know, just this whole thing being a coach in Dallas, it's not my thing anymore. I want to go somewhere where there's less stuff, there's less extra stuff, right as possible. It's possible, but I don't buy it, especially because of the moolah that would be attached to a new contract
from Jerry. I are you sure that that's gonna be There's gonna be a lot of mulah. It was thirty five million last time. That's a lot of money. That a lot of money. Yes, yeah, unless you're DeMarcus Lawrence or Jerry Jones. I mean yeah, it's not like Jerry was like thirty five that's it all right? Well, actually, Sean and r J said something really funny. They were like, you know, what do you say to people who criticize
you for being too optimistic. But the way they framed the question, they were like, you know, we're not always as optimistic as you are because we don't have four billion dollars in the bank. And I was like, yeah, I ain't that the truth. Yeah, you can be optimistic when you got four billion back. You got a pretty big safety net. Yeah. I thought it was very telling. I mean, if if Jerry Jones really wanted to make a statement, he'd be like, he'll be our coach. He
didn't say that. Yeah, that's how you you know, you really want to show support, I mean, just sign him. But you know, he said, the problem is you don't know who you can guarantee. Who can guarantee you a Super Bowl? Yeah, so who's got the exclusive skills to get the job done so that collective you can win a Super Bowl? There are qualified people. Jason Garrett is one of them. In my opinion, Jason Garrett will be coaching in the NFL next year. I mean, okay, like
where like right with you? That seems very like follow up ish, like yeah, whah. The interview ended on that question. Was he also in the same interview, he said you know, he's he's my guy, he's the man for the job. But man, it's just not a ringing endorsement when you know the guy that ultimately makes the call on who's coaching the Cowboys is like, yeah, I did, he'll he'll have a job in the league. Couldn't he just say?
Couldn't he just say I will not make any coaching move for the now or the rest of the season. Like in the season, let's talk about it again. But I'm done. I'm done. I'm not gonna make a move right now. We're in first place. It's not what we want, but we still have a chance to get there. I'm not making a change. Would just be a bad idea for where we are. It's not happening. We'll talk about the end of the s He's already said that he's
not making a change this year, did he not? I mean, in the in the comments he made post game this last game. Yeah, I thought he was very clear about the fact that we're not getting better by firing him in the middle of the season or in firing him during the season. We're gonna, you know, basically saying we're gonna this is our guy. We think that he has the right stuff to be able to get us through now.
He may not have said it is as definitively as I'm not making a move this season, but he all but said that, like he made it very clear that Jason, and because he was even asked to follow up by by Mike Fisher of so you're saying that you can't be you don't get better by getting rid of Garrett this year, And he said, that's absolutely right. We don't get better. They don't have a coach on this staff that can that can do that right now, will make you better, that'll make you better. I just right now
I should say no, I mean they don't. They don't have a coach on the staff that could do that, that could make you better right now. That's the point I'm stop. He might not he might not be writing it. He might not be writing it in like fifteen points, sharpie, But I feel like Jerry Jones is writing on the wall right now. There's another quote he said this morning.
He said, if I were leaving training camp today, I'd like to have this run that I've got right now, four games to get to the playoffs as healthy as we are, get our act together relative to what we're doing on both sides of the ball. And let's go couple that with a bunch of the other things that he said, including I think he'll be coaching in the NFL next year. I just think Jason Garrett's going to have to put together a legitimate run at or at least close to the Super Bowl to be here next year.
I will say this, That's what I think. They did ask him the question, what is the bar right and and he did he said it. No. What he said was basically, there is no bar what he was doing with giving himself leeway. He was like, there is no real bar that I've set for this thing. You know. He basically was saying that I'm gonna judge at the end of this whole thing how I think, not only how I think he's how he's done and our team is performing, but I just want to see, like what
else is out there. That was where he got in some of those other comments about do I have another guy out there who I think ken get me farther than where Jason's getting me? Sorry, go ahead, nine and seven. This team goes nine and seven. They actually turn it around a little bit. Go three, out of four. They play the forty nine Ers, which is the team that they would play right now. Forty nine Ers come in as the number five seed with probably four or five
games better than Dallas maybe, and Dallas wins. They get it. They finally beat a team with a winning record. They go to Seattle lose. What do you do? Garrett out? What do I do? What is Jason or what is Garrett? Jerry? That's the fun? Yeah, that's that's the rub here. Fun is not the right word, but that is what is
useful about this current situation. In twenty sixteen, Jerry would have had to fire Jason Garrett following a playoff loss to the Packers, which that's not a good look for anybody, right if they if that scenario plays out, you can just let him walk away and say, well, we're not upset with the job that you did, but you're out of contract, and we think everybody you know, it's he goes and signs with somebody else like he and they
just let him do it. You know, you see players all the time they're like, well just go check the mark out and if you come back around, you come back around. And the player doesn't come back around. It could be a similar situation. This is just like the AT and T commercial. Really, I mean, Elsa, oh okay, just okay is not okay. That's really what it's come down to. Is he the slogan he's been just okay. But with the Dallas Cowboys, it's not okay. It's definitely
not okay to the fans. So that's kind of where where we stand here. He's been okay, he doesn't sometimes really good, Right, Jerry doesn't have to set the bar. He's not going to do it publicly. But like I the way this has all gone, the way the season's been up to this point, I just can't imagine him getting an extension and having that press conference and everything that goes with that without winning at least two playoff games. Yeah, you're getting them into a game that they have been
twenty five years. Here's the thing. If they get to the NFC title game, I kind of now I'm starting to think, all right, yeah, because Jerry doesn't want to let go of him in the first place. It's gonna have to be clear, Jerry has to get rid of him just because it's just not working. If they get to a game that they haven't been to since the mid nineties. Then I'm starting to think and if they get to the super Bowl, then definitely, I think they
have to play in the SEC title game. Think it was Marcus Spears today that said even a Super Bowl, he probably wouldn't keep him. I think he said he wouldn't keep him. They wouldn't. I think, I think. I think, honestly, I think you're right. I think if you get to the NFC Championship game, I think that Jerry makes the decision that he'd probably keep them around. But I just think you have to read between the lions. You always
do with Jerry. But I just think the messaging is there that he expects something extraordinary over the six weeks. If he's not going to make a change, you know, this is Yeah, it's about winning, but at the same time, it's all the business. It's money, a lot of money
it's involved here. And I think that if that was to happen where Jason Garrett is back, I wonder how many fans are just gonna be like, you know what, I'm done and that event you can say that you know, like, oh yeah, there are some fans that are you gonna stick around? No matter why, even though they're upset. But at the same time, I wonder how big of a change that would be and how much that money making. I will tell you this. I will tell you this.
There have been times I've been extremely frustrated with my college team, extremely frustrated, frustrated to the point where I'm like, I'm done. I don't want to watch anymore games. And you know what I do that next Saturday? Still watch the next game. Well, geez, I gotta turn this game, because it's not I'm not. What I realize is I'm not doing this for their benefit. I'm doing this because I enjoy it. I'm doing it because and maybe it makes me a glutton for punishment. I don't know, But
I'm doing this for my own enjoyment. And so the question doesn't become do they turn up? The question is like, do they want to stop watching football? Do they want to stop being a fan of football? And most people I don't think are going to get to that point based on it. Now, there may be some yeah, absolutely, and it is a personal decision everybody has a right to make. Yeah, yeah, they start wondering, right, But it's also, what have you done for me situation, What have you
done for me lately? That's always what it is, and so right now it's hard to even imagine that. But they're six and six. I mean, they're got to go win on the road just to have a winning record. But if they've turned this thing around, and just think about what the vibes will be if you beat a team like the forty nine ers and then you go to Seattle and you beat that and we see the romos, it does change every and then it's like everything is totally has a different vibe than you go to the
championship game and all that. Oh god, we're getting ahead of her. How about win a ballgames? Jerrys, Well, real quick, let's get these predictions for the game. Nick, let's start with you today. Who do you think is gonna win this game? Or a segue from that to that. But um, I haven't really thought of a score yet. Better do it here on the fly. But um, I'm not picking them to win. I'm sorry. I mean, they need to win. They need to win the game. I've seen it, I've
done all of this. I've stood on the table that they said they're gonna blow up the bills and they didn't, So I I just I think they're better than Chicago, I think, but that hasn't proved anything right now, So I don't have a good vibe that they're going to go out there and get it together if they said they are, if they if they prove me wrong and say, ha, great, do it. But I don't think they'll win. So twenty three nineteen Bears, all right? I actually I do think
they're gonna win, but I'm not gonna pick them. If that makes sense now, Yeah, no, no, that or whatever. I don't care, Like, I'll just go along with you. I think they're better, Okay, I don't think they're gonna win. They like, they have given me no reason to pick them to win this game. And you know, oh no, they'll prove me wrong and I will demand an apology for the five times this year I've picked them to win and they lost. They're better than the Bears, I think,
like across you know, their offense. I like the matchup of Dallas offense first Bears defense more than the alternative. Again, but didn't I say that about the Bills too? Yeah, I think like the Cowboys should be able to score twenty four against this Bears defense and hold the Bears offense to like sixteen. That's what they should be able to do. But I just I don't trust it, especially not on the road. They'll probably lose the turnover battle.
They do that pretty consistently. Khalil Mack has five forced fumbles, and it'll you know, like nineteen to sixteen Bears a lot of field goals, like tons of field goals five or six of how many attempts though eight may eight? No, I'm sorry, five made field goals between the two teams on eight total attempts. A good new kicker next week nineteen sixteen Bears. All right, Well, after the loss against the Bills, I did tell myself I am no longer picking them to win for the rest of the year,
regardless if they were playing the Redskins this week. I was like, no way. But but I do believe in probability and the fact that the Bears have two games that they've won on a road and the Cowboys have lost two on a road. I think maybe the Cowboys figure out a way to win in Chicago. Now I'm in between there, like I don't want to pick them to win, but because of probabilities. I think they would
get this win and they win. I don't know, Like I think we're all twenty seventeen, we're all grappling with the reality that we're gonna look like idiots no matter what happens. Yes, the Cowboys are either gonna play up to their potential and make us all look dumb for checking out on them, or we're gonna pick them to win again and they're gonna put up another stinker. Well, I picked them to lose to the Eagles at home, and they crushed them, so I slept okay every time.
That's yeah, that's whole different stuf um. You know, honestly, I've decided. I decided after that Bill's game. I believe in the theory that Bill parcels laid out by Thanksgiving. You know what a team is. So what I'm gonna do from here on out is I'm basically going with what I've seen. What I've seen is the Cowboys when they're playing a team that's above five hundred, they don't really play very well. They don't win those games. Teams below five hundred buy and large except for the Jets,
they win those games. Now, that proposes in a boundary for me. So there you go. That's that's my tie. Great, right, So they won the only game that they played this year where the team was at five hundred. So I'm gonna roll with that for this week. I can tell you right now, I'm thinking next week, I'm probably not picking them because that'll be a team that's probably a buff five. I think they'll definitely be a hundred and five.
So I think this week they get a win. I think next year, next week they make it interesting by getting a loss, and then you see what happens in Philly, because Philly is really the game that matters. Yeah, all right, hed, you guys join us. We'll be back on Monday. I'm sorry, We'll be back on Friday this week, and we're gonna let you guys know what we're right and wrong for the Cowboys till then. For Nick Even, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia, I'm Derek Hughelton. This has been The Break live on
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