Cowboys Break: Paying Dak?

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So if you call us one eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven again eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven, we can take questions to comments. You can also hit us on Twitter at Derek Eagles and I'll take questions there. How's everybody doing today? Fantastic? All right? Nick? All right? Good? You sure? Yeah, you're just kind of like, yeah, great, okay, good Amber good, I mean as good as you could be. Honestly, as I don't know if I'm ready to get this over

or if I want them to keep going. I'm just confused us to what I'm feeling right now. Well, it sounds like you're right there with all the other Cowboys fans out there, so let's jump right in. Let's start first talking about a couple of injuries. There were some guys that did not practice yesterday to Marcus Lawrence, shan Lee, Dak Prescott, and Tyren Smith. Are any of those injuries that you suspect will their abilities to play this week?

Or is this one of those situations where again guys just missed practice sometimes yeah, well yeah, it's kind of affect their ability to play. I should have said that a different way. I mean, I should have said where they won't be able to play, because the next question they're gonna be how can they play? But yeah, go ahead,

I would guess they'll all be able to play. I think, sorry, go ahead, And Nick, I just don't understand the dak part of it, you know, but I mean just like last I mean last week, he didn't practice, that didn't look good. I mean whether or not that helped his shoulder get through the week. Then they didn't put him on the injury report, and then he played, and he played like a guy that didn't practice, or he played like a guy that had a shoulder injury or both.

And now this week this is kind of the same plan. And I don't know, like it's just weird that now all of a sudden he's back on it again. Did he get hurt again? That's so strange. It's a great point. That's I said earlier today, Like it felt kind of cocky to me in the first place that they did that last week, Like oh question ar orderback question, you know, his availability or his effectiveness, We're not even going to list him on Friday. Well he sure looked like he

should have been listed on Sunday. And then writing on Monday, you right back on right, which is why, like I you know, people kind of it's so funny to me, like there's this dichotomy of people that are like like Deck didn't get any help and he was hurt like

how you're gonna dog him after that? And then there's other people that are like I've been telling you for years, he's trash, Like it always has to be one of those two things, right, Whereas but I'm like, he didn't play well and I know he's hurt, But if you didn't even list him on Friday, well, how much benefit of the doubt should I give him? Like you didn't think it was a big deal Friday, so why should I think it's a big deal on Sunday. Well, they clearly did not help him at all as far as

the game plan. They did not plan the game. According to a guy that's hurt on the shoulder, his quarterback has been hurt all week and it didn't seem like the game plan was fitting to that. They should have rent the ball a lot more. Yeah, I mean you've seen Home Alone, right, you've seen it. I have most times. You know, where the guy goes in and at the very end of this movie, and here they are, they're finally going to get this kid, and he like opens

the door and it's like flaming hot. You know, that's one of the twelve things, And all of a sudden he goes in. Well, then the next door he opens, He's like, is this hot? Now? Okay? This was good? Like he understands that, like already have been burned before. He's learning, he's learning. Why aren't we learning? Like? Why are we just saying did you come up with that on my Christmas? Even I saw it was on yesterday, and you know, and and I didn't realize there was

a sequel in another I didn't realize that. You know, only Rocky can get away with just keep putting out the sequels, but or Star Wars. Okay, let's not getting into that again, saying I was really just transitioning to Star Wars, which day I I, we don't have enough time for me to hire Star Wars. It's just learning from your mistakes, you know, That's all that it is. And so I just don't understand why you would do that again. Maybe he does need to practice kind of

go through it or whatever. And like you said, there was no injury and then now there's an injury. Yeah. At the same time, though, I mean, don't you hinder whatever effectiveness he's going to have by making him throw all week? Well, but here's the thing, man, which you're so you're saying the answer is to let to prepare Cooper Rush to start. No, No, I'm just saying I think he needs to play a little bit more. But

it's like it's almost like we're playing extremes here. Either he doesn't practice at all or he has to take every throw. Isn't there maybe some gray area here where maybe he can work into team a little bit where he can get a couple a couple of plays during the week that helps him kind of, I don't know, maybe maybe he needs it to visualize it, to be able to actually stand back there in the pocket and

look at what he's gonna see on game day. Because, like I think we all agree, what we saw this last week was reflective of a guy that didn't look like he was playing at his best. So the difference there was that he didn't practice all week. So if you can get him into some reps here in practice this week, then that would make sense. Now, if he's so hurt that he can't do that, then again then you question, well, why was he not on the injury port on Friday? Right, So it's all of it just

doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense. Thing for me, like if he's hurt, he's hurt, like just just say just say that, just say he's hurt and all that. But there's there's Jason Garrett trying to say, you know, he's probably trying to throw out there with the Redskins or I don't think Bill Callahan cares right now about you know, like Wat's coaching for a job. Well, I know, but I don't think he can have Dak's play.

You know, those those coaches are like, he's playing. I mean, he's gonna right, he's gonna play in the game, and that I don't know. I kind of if they want, sorry, they need to sign Clayton Thorson, if they really want to play this thing up, they need to sign him and be like, all right, well let's just make sure ramp three quarterbacks ready for the game. It's kind of

like a go ahead. I was just gonna say, It's not like if Dak was not gonna play or had a bad game or has a bad game, I mean this weekend and they put in whoever, clay or Cooper, that's not gonna be like, oh my god, oh we gotta change this game plane. This is really gonna throw us off. No, they're they're gonna be okay, Like it's a big diff prince there between her Dak and these other backups. I just kind of it kind of reminds me of the like you should have been practicing outdoors

and that would have made all the difference. And I'm just like it would it have helped? Sure? Is Like should a professional football team be able to overcome that? I think so, Like, of course it's better if Dak is practicing, But hasn't he been throwing dozens of passes a day since like at least April, if not before that,

Like would it help him? Of course? But you're a professional quarterback and one that's angling for a mighty big pay raise at that, So just go out and make the throws, Like, if you're good, if you're healthy enough to play, go out and make the throws. Which I'll keep saying, like I don't have a problem with the way they played the Eagles, Like the plays were there

to be made and it wasn't all on deck. It was not it was Cooper, it was Gallop, it was Witten, it was everybody couldn't catch the stuff that he was putting on target, and he couldn't put the other stuff on target. It was everybody's fault. But the game plan would have worked if it executed it. Yeah, I believe that. I'm sorry. Yeah, but offensively I think so. Yeah, But like if your quarterback isn't good enough to execute it, then it's not a good game plan. But again, but

I mean, first of all, that falls on everybody. You know, how many how many more yards and points do they have if those six drops get caught because some of them were big gainers. Yeah, and then there's I mean there's the overthrow to Tavon, YadA, YadA, YadA. I I hear what you're saying, But I just I don't like the idea of running into a brick wall for the sake of it. I mean, yeah, I mean, if Dak said he got up on Thursday and he's like, I'll

be fine. I dealt with way worse stuff than this in college, Well, then go make the place right exactly. I mean, that's all there is to it, in my opinion. Does he need three hundred and five yards to help himself with them? With its contract? You know, if he gets about I think that breaks Romo's record of forty nine hundred yards which he got. I don't know. It didn't matters for his contract, do you well. I mean

it's nice to have. I mean, you know, because they're going to throw record and stuff, like they're gonna throw his record in there. They just gonna throw it out there, no matter what, whether he gets that record or not, he's gonna say he was right there on the record. If he doesn't, you know whose record he's gonna break. His Romo in twenty twelve eight and eight eton eight lost to the Redskins last game in the season to get to eight, which ironic, and it's it's whether it's

fair or not. It's gonna happen like this Eagles game is gonna color his contract negotiations. It's gonna be one of the lasting flashpoints from the season. I'll be curious to see how much it affects it, because if I remember right, they signed Romo to a huge extension after in eight and eight season two. Probably it's twenty twelve season after he was he signed it the month before I got here. I remember that, and they went eight and eate. He threw a terrible pick against the Redskins

to keep him from going to the playoffs. You know, still got his money. I watched that play this weekend, not as bad as I remember it. The guy made an outstanding play. He did. He faked him. I mean, he faked Romo out. He was like, I'm blitzing and I'm blitzing, and then he faked it and came back in Romo. I mean, he gambled and he won on that plane. But I mean that bad loss. They should have won. Well, I don't know if I should have won the game, but I'm just saying it was a tough,

tough way to end. But I think the point is is that, you know, his stats look good with passing yards, decks, but that's really it. I mean, his touchdowns are okay. His rating is right there, you know, and kind of an average. I mean it's it's above average. It's just like in the top fifteen or so. His teams like ranked what sixteenth right now, and just overall about it,

you know, the middle of the pack. I mean, his passing yards look good, but if they could have established things earlier, they would have been leading these games and running the ball. But I think that's that's where it gets back to in my opinion, I don't know that he's helped or hurt his cause necessarily when it comes to the contract. I think where he was at the beginning season, there's been some really good stuff where you were like, oh wow, maybe he jumped up, and then

there's been some bass. I was like, oh well, maybe it fell back down. I think it probably ends up netting out around wherever the Cowboys were thinking they were going to pay him. He probably I think he took a step forward from where he was last year. But that all being said, you can make the argument very clearly that he hasn't. I mean, you started talking about fourth quarter comebacks, he's much he didn't play like that this year, and he did do that earlier in his career.

So I think he took a step forward for what the agent and what their stance was. Their stance was to go for forty and up there, and I don't think so at all. I think that whatever the Cowboys opening, you know, whatever their their you know, cost was earlier, I think it's about yeah, no, no, no no. I wasn't saying he took a step forward for the money. I say I'm saying just from his strictly from his play, I think he was a little bit better quarterback than

he was last year. Now that all being said, like I said, I think you can make a pretty good argument that he's not me personally what I've seen I suggested he is. I think he's a pretty good quarterback. I think he has shown signs that he is progressing. And if you're gonna pay him, it would be banking that that continues. I can't argue if you tell me he doesn't look like a quarterback who can like completely elevate his team. I can't really argue with you. He

hasn't hadn't been able to do that this year. But I'm signing him because well, it's gonna be way too. It's gonna be it's gonna be so hard to try to start from the ground ground, you know, floor, to try to get back to that point he's there. Is he perfect? No, not at all, but he's good enough to get where they want to go. And I but

here's and I completely agree with you. But that's the thing is like this should be easy, like the Cowboys should be like, we'll pay you one hundred thousand more than whatever Jared Goffcott and Dak says, yeah, that's fine, but will it be that easy, like one hundred thousand. I'm sorry, Yeah, I was thinking like, yeah, we'll put you right in that cluster with Winston guy. Yes, right, and we'll give you more than them if it makes you feel better. Yeah, yeah, but we're not paying you

Russ money and you're not going to compete with Mahomes. Yes, and that's fine. Will that actually happen? Like are the Cowboys gonna lowball him? Or is he gonna do this forty million dollar thing that keeps being rumored? Like, because that's where it gets dicey. It should be easy. You should be able to say we'll pay you to where you're top ten, and everybody should be happy. But I'll be curious to see if that actually happened. And that's

actually what I'd like to see happen. And you look at the friend and the franchise tag broughly about thirty three, No, it's twenty eight. They stand just have a little bit of leverage there, right, yeah, but they yeah, and that's I don't I wonder if this will be more contentious this year than it was last time you franchise a guy.

You're basically that's where you're starting, right, so you mean per year, so you which is good because at least you know they're probably gonna go more than twenty eight anyways, right, Which, But that's I guess that's my point is like I understand why Dak would be like insulted by a number like twenty eight, Like I get a year, yeah, per year. Yeah. I wonder why he really thinks his worth I don't know.

And that's that's the question, because I also understand why the Cowboys would be insulted if Dak was like, no, like thirty eight to forty obviously and be like what why what did you do? Let's turn on the film so exactly, And that's my but he's like, let me pick the game, right right. Yeah. It's like it's very unusual when both sides are like, yeah, thirty three sounds good. Here you go, all right, happy to sign it, Like I just probably won't be that easy if I had

to go. Maybe he wants to see what the direction of the team looks like, yes, And I mean that that could be fair. That could be fair. Like there's a lot of stuff that people are talking about right now with regards to whether what this team is going to be doing going forward, and so he may want to know more about that before he settles on a number. Maybe the Cowboys want to know what their new coach thinks about Dak as well. Maybe assuming they have a

new coach, Yeah, they probably will. See all right, we're gonna take our first break when we come back. We got some questions already rolling in. But before we get to those questions, we're going to have our scatter report of the Washington Redskins offense and defense days. Gonna run that down force. We'll do that when we come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. I'm Jay noba Check,

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Sunday three, three thirty at at and T Stadium. Dave give us a scoutter report on the offense and defense for the Washington Redskins. Okay, quick, it's gonna be real quick, is it. Yeah, there's so much to talk about. No, honestly, you want to know what there is to talk about. Like name, name a player on the Redskins who you're familiar with. Out Anderson, he's in. Good job, good guys

out I mean Haskins out written No, definitely out. He's like the point like this is honestly, like this is like when you know Arkansas knows that they're not going to a bowl game, and the red shirt Arkansas he's sitting across from because I know they did it. They're like, we're not going to a bowl our coach is gone.

We're gonna get a look at these guys that are on the back end of the depth chart, because what's the point, Like, that's what this game is probably gonna look like for them, not necessarily because just because they're bad, but they're bad and hurt. Ruben Foster, Descheser, Everett, Vernon Davis, Jordan Reid, Darius Geis, Tray Quinn, Dominique, Rodgers, Cromarty, Alex Smith, obviously, Brandon shurf Um, Ryan Carrigan, Quentin Dunbar, Trent Williams, Paul Richardson.

I just named like two thirds of the guys that you're familiar with on some defensive lineman though, don't they They They got Jonathan Allen, they got Darn Payne, they got Norman. Not everybody's hurt, but like the names that you have come to know in this matchup, were they all out? All those guys are on, not even just hurt, they're on. Irruten Gruden's been gone. Yeah, that's a good point. I didn't even think about that. Yeah, I mean we played them way back in week two. He got fired in

like week six, so and Haskins is definitely out. Haskins is so so he's definitely I believe so stat I told you earlier. I think it's amazing because it's a division team. If if Haskins would have played this game, he would have been the fifth different quarterback to play against the Cowboys from the Redskins. Like, in what period of time the last five games? Oh, every game there's been a different quarterback going back to the end of

the seventeen, which is Kurt Cousins. Then they played Alex Smith, then they played Colton McCoy, then they played Keenham, and then they were going to play Haskins. Yeah, and then Haskins got hurt and Keenham comes back. I mean, that's just that's not good. I shouldn't. I don't want to say this, but I'm going to anyway. But it goes back to the conversation. You know, you disagree with me

last week, like for better or for worse. There's a lot of Cowboy fans who don't want to win this game, or they'll tell you that, like they want to just get into the offseason, change the head coach. Whether you agree with it or not, that's not the point. There's just people that feel that way and they're like, oh my god, just in our suffering blah blah blah. I get it to some degree. I think you have an argument,

but like, try being a fan of this team. Like, if you don't, if you don't think it could be worse, it could be a lot worse. Man five different starting quarterbacks the last five games with the Cowboys, they've won the division like twice in the last twenty years. Just a joke of a franchise. Honestly, I'm gonna get to that point after you're done with the whole Scott and report, because I just think there's something fans are missing about this whole, Like I want to get it over with.

I think they're missing something we can we'll get into. That's a great tease, which I don't have a lot to say anyway, even I mean, Terry mclaurin's great. He's got a concussion. He goes, oh he does, he might not play. Wow, he's got a concussion. You yeah, exactly. Um, I mean you want to talk about Eric Flowers playing left guard? They're down to I mean Jeremy Sprinkles, Yeah he does. Speaking of the Hogs, Jeremy sprinkle is the starting tight end for this game. Adrian Peterson and Chris

Thompson are there. We were very familiar with what they do there's definitely still talent on their front. Jonathan Allen, dron Payne, matt Ianitis, sneaky good player, eight and a half sacks this season, playing three to four end, which is I mean, that's impressive. Yeah, um monted sweat the Mississippi State pass rusher. They stole him in the first round. Um So they still got some pretty decent players up

front on the defense. Yeah they do. But and again, okay, in the league and or second to last in rushing on defense rush defense, Yeah, which is surprise. You would think they would be able to loose control that. But they're getting smashed up front and then even among guys that are not on IR Okay, I wrote the So Donald Pin's not practicing right now. They signed him because they're a regular left tackle. Trent Williams hates him and he's not basic. Donald Pin's got a knee injury, not practicing.

Morgan Moses their right tackle, knee injury, not practicing. Terry McLaren is can cussed um Fabian Moreau. They're a cornerback. One of their cornerbacks has a hamstring. Landon Collins and Monte Nicholson their starting safeties, not practicing. Right now. Again, some of these guys will upgrade as the week goes, I'm sure, but like this is, this is and I know we just played the Eagles, but this is like as banged up of a team as I've ever seen. And I'm going to speak for all the people out

there listening right now. I know you know what I know, which I even wrote and we wrote a PA was the same scoutter report last week when you were playing an Eagles team that was completely banged up and nobody was playing and and Cowboys still late at went out and couldn't really do much. One big difference at the quarterbacks. True, absolutely, And I get that. I'm just saying. I know there are people out there listening right now that are saying, yeah, okay,

I hear what you're saying. But we also face the mash unit of a team last week, and and we didn't The Cowboys didn't look like they took advantage of that. Right With everything that that team is currently going through right now and this being the last game of the season makes me wonder, I mean, do they go out there still like trying to win a game or do they just go out there all Let me just do my job. Get this season. We've talked about that one

hundred times and then and I'll say it again. Yeah, but I mean they'll play hard. They'll play hard on Sunday. Everybody plays hard on Sunday. They you know, the guys at the rect League are playing hard on ten am on Saturday mornings. But it's what are they preparing this week? Did they get distracted about Christmas? Did they get distracted? Are they really looking at film or the Cowboys doing the same. That's the question goes both ways. Yeah, it's Wednesday, Thursday,

Friday reparation, and especially this week of preparation. It's it's tough to figure that out. That's kind of going back to my other point. It's like as mediocre and frustrating as the Cowboys have been at times, like it's been a while, I mean, I guess twenty fifteen, but like it's been a while since you've really known how that feels. Like I am impressed if anybody that plays for a team like this where you've been out of it since October,

it's just misery everywhere. Like if you can show up to work and really dedicate yourself in light of all that, Like that's really impressive and is obviously like the mark of a true professional. Like trying to put myself in that situation, I don't think i'd be very good at it. Yeah, that's just I mean, that's a tough thing to do. I mean, you start thinking about it, you can easily rationalize in your mind, Okay, we're playing kind of a

meaningless game. My kids are sitting here on a Christmas Day. I can need to put in that extra little bit of film work, or I can sit here and play with my kids literally, right, I mean, it's just like those are the kind of things where as a professional you know the right answer, but you also as a person, you're like, I know the right answer, right. My tape study would have been way more extensive if the Cowboys were really gunning exactly, that's exactly right. The number one

seeds on the line. Why would have been like, babe, go do your your study. And when I got the kids, like, when you're not doing that, then it's kind of like well watching what's you know? What you know? I mean, there's a solar lining and everything, and so for when I started here and in my first four seasons with the Cowboys, that were eight and eight made the playoffs, but eight and eight five and eleven five to eleven,

five and eleven. And I think that that helped me, honestly, because I didn't know any other way about how Christmas and Thanksgiving, December and games like that, you know, and so like I That's why it's kind of weird to me when you when you I I hear what you're saying. You're like, I could my kids, I could play with my kids and all that, but but the toys that he has, and the and the the playroom that he's playing, you know with, and all that are all provided because

of the job that you have. Right But you're thinking right now as a forty something year old guy, when you're a twenty five year old guy, when you're a twenty eight year old guy, are you still thinking the same way? Do you have that that kind of perspective? And again, I'm not saying that anybody's doing anything that like anybody. I'm not trying to paint this picture that

the Cowboys just taking the week off. All I'm saying is it does become a tougher prospect and you have to be way more disciplined and way more mentally tough to be able to force yourself to do it when again, you can, in your mind rationalize a good reason why you shouldn't. Yeah, but the reason why you should is that they have a chance to make the playoffs. They really do. Like this isn't like they got six things

that need to happen. They don't. They have to go run their game, and the question becomes, to the Redskins do that when they don't? Yeah? Also the flip side of that, do the Giants do that when they don't? Right? This week is going to be easy for the Giants and Redskins in my opinion, because they have a chance to make life absolutely miserable for a division rival. And

I think that's a hell of am monovator. And we we always think, you know, as cowboys and cowboy fans think the Giants are gonna want to help us, that the Redskins don't want to help. You know, there's hatred. We don't think about it. We don't think about the Giants Eagles hatred or the Giants Redskins or the Redskins Eagles and all that. But they hate each other all the same, all equally hate around the division. So It's not like, let's just lose to the Eagles, so the

Cowboys don't get in that's dumb. They're gonna play, They're gonna play hard. And you know, I think the NFL did a really really good job this week that that was a very smart thing that they did, waiting like they do and then picking the games. If you go look at what the AFC four o'clock games are, every one of those games is about teams that are playing for that final wildcard spot, and then the early games are teams that are playing within them. You know, the seating.

You know, somebody opened a president yesterday that had tickets to the Redskin Cowboy game that costs four hundred, five hundred dollars whatever. They deserve the right to have a good game, and the NFL did the best that they

could to get that. It's one of the it's one of the smartest things the NFL has done in the last ten or so years is backloading the schedule with division games because it just guarantees that the majority of the games are going to mean something and if they don't, it's still Cowboys Redskins and that might mean something to somebody. Um I expect the Redskins to utilize their running backs a lot because it's the most it's the healthiest position group.

Chris Thompson's a good receiving back, and the coach yeah and and and they will run it. Uh. They're actually surprisingly good at forcing takeaways and getting sacks. They're top ten in sacks with forty three sweats. A guy to watch, Um Ryan Anderson if he can play, and then Unitas is their leaders prising with that shoulder that bum quarterback

Um and they have. They have twenty one takeaways on the year, which is five more than the Cowboys, even though they're supposedly like the worst team in the league. So it says a lot about how good the Cowboys are getting the ball, or there m anyway whispering going on. They can't get the football, they can't get any turnovers, they get short feeling. I fully expect this to be a dramatic game, win or lose. I kind of like, if you think the Redskins are roll they haven't rolled over,

they haven't gotten their doors blown off in weeks. Yeah, this won't be a I don't think this will be a Cowboys blow them out kind of game. Like this is a game. It's going to be close, and it's actually let's take a look. I'm they lost by They lost by six to New York in overtime. They lost by ten to Philly, which is really three because the last play of the game was a defensive touchdown. They pushed Green Bay to the brink in at Lambeau. Lost

by five, beat Carolina by eight, beat Detroit. They got whooped pretty bad by New York by the Jets. But that was all the way back on November seventeenth. Like the last month and a half, they've either been winning or playing really tough. So they're gonna play. It's gonna be a hard fought game. It'll be impressive. If the Cowboys can whip these guys well the way they did in Week two, I don't expect to see that. And they won by ten. Yeah, but they were up by

seventeen with like four minutes to play. Yeah, but you know the Redskins have. That's what they do, that's what case keenom does. You know. I think the Deacon dunk stuff that the Eagles had success with, I think you're gonna see that in this game. Agreed, all right, We're gonna take our final break. We'll come back. We'll get some calls. Eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven is the number. We'll take a call from Horse when we get back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot

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Life in the SWBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, we're gonna get some questions you guys can call us the numbers eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven, and we'll start with for us in Atlanta, for us, what up? Hey? What's up? Guys? Hey? Up doing break? Guys? Hopefully?

How to merry Christmas? Hey? I was listening to you all earlier, I guess the show before the holidays in your whole question or whether or not you should extend that, and I think it would be ludicrous if you didn't, or even create an issue where you wouldn't want to pay the man. I mean, he's you know, earlier. I remember, earlier in his career, Nick would bring up the point that his average per pass wasn't as high as some of the other quarterbacks, and now it's one of the

highest in the league, and that's not good enough. So I think that's kind of ludacrous. And I think that someone who is now leading the lead in passing um still isn't I guess, getting the getting your approval to extend to him or or give him the money that I guess most of the other average of the upper echelon quarterbacks are making. Can you can you name for me real quick the other like if you were to name the top five guys that are leading the league

in passing right now? You know those other guys are All of those guys are not in the playoffs, James Weston, Matt Ryan that and there's a couple of a couple of the guys. I can't think, but yeah, how does that really matter? I guess the reason I'm asking that, I want to know for you, for you to bring that up, what do you think that really means? When you say he's leading the league? So that means so why wouldn't you pay him? What does that really mean? I would have paid him a long time ago. I

would have. I would have. I didn't feel like he needed to lead the league in passing. I felt like you guys made the point. And I mean you guys like Nick and some of the other guys. Brian had mentioned that he hasn't had the average yard for passing that some of the other quarterbacks that had, like the Aaron Rodgers and all of them when they were doing that. And now Aaron Rodgers is his career stats are mediocre at best, but his team is winning. But it's okay

because he's Aaron Rodgers and he's winning. I mean, like I think the winning part of it is the big deal. I really don't remember making the big deal about that that stat the passing yards per play. That might be more Brian than me. Okay, and uh, but I know that he is. He has garnished a lot of your criticism and and is he still has a high completion rate, you know. And you can't have a high completion rate if you're not completing passes, So you have to be

accurate enough to be completing passes. Where would you pay him? You say, you would definitely think of ludicrous if you wouldn't.

What's the range that you would you would be shooting for that you'd be willing to pay well if he, like he said he came down to I guess what, saying thirty five million or something like that, which which I would say, I believe I heard that the last time that they were talking about negotiations that he had brought hit him and his team and said they had came down and were willing to meet them at like thirty five or something like that. I would definitely do that. Okay,

all right, thanks for one more thing. I wanted to ask if I could you know, um, I looked at this, and I was looking at the twenty fourteen game win. We were fourth and two against Green Bay and our best play was a fifty fifty ball to Desk Bryant. And then we come back, same coaching staff, different roles, of course, but then a fourth and eight and our best players a fifty fifty ball, almost the same kind of pass. What is it that we do? What is

it that you feel that we do best? And why doesn't this team do that when they need eight yards or two yards? I don't see why we can't get eight yards and keep that drive going versus trying to throw up a fifty fifty ball. Yeah, I oh my gosh. I couldn't agree with that last part. More. Jason Garrett said so many times after the game that they got the look they wanted. Why is the look you wanted? A jump ball to Michael Gallup, who has had a really nice season, But I would not classify that as

his forte and it's not fifty. He was the best receiver he had on play he was, which is also part of the problem. But I mean, like when you threw the ball up to Daz it was not even fifty fifty. He could he would go get it, and he went and got that one. Everyone knows he caught that ball, so like he caught it, and it was, you know, just an unfortunate call against him. But like I think he could have gone to Beasley underneath on that play. Yes, And and you know, I think Romo

saw he finally got one on one. He threw it up des made the play. But I don't think Gallup goes and makes that play all the time. I don't think it's fifty fifty anymore he does. I mean, I think the world of the job Michael Gallup has done this year, but he dropped a ball like that five minutes prior. He should have had that. I the best thing they do is, honestly, probably the RPO slant to I mean to Cooper, which even that didn't work on

Sunday nothing. For they should have called the timeout. They should have completely us and just say let's get our best player, let's get our best call. And if if we don't like what Callen's gonna call, then you jump in and say something. And you know what, you better make the right call because you only have two timeouts now, and if you don't make this then obviously it's gonna be really, really hard. But but do that, it's gonna be just as hard to try to get Jarwin and

Witton open on, you know, for eight yards. I don't know how to parse through the whole Dak thing, which, just for the record, everybody knows I'm the Aaron Rodgers fanboy here. Like his stats are not mediocre, they're not He's not leading the league, and he has definitely taken a backseat to his defense this year. There's no doubt about that. He played poorly on Monday Night, but he's thrown twenty four passes, twenty four touchdowns, and three picks

all year. He's he's doing Dak twenty sixteen at a higher level than what Dack did in twenty sixteen. There's nothing wrong with that, and yeah, if you win games, that's all that matters. And just to be clear, when he says that that, you know, we were talking last week about not wanting to pay him. I don't think anybody was saying they wanted to let Dak go. The argument was do you sign him to a long term

deal or do you franchise him? That was the argument, because I think we all agree that needs to be back here because the Cowboys don't want to go back into quarterback a bits. I don't care, that's the point. But but and my argument was, I'm not willing to overpay him. So if his camp is really hardcore sitting there at to be honest with you, if they're anywhere above thirty five, I mean even at a hair over

thirty five, I'm holding out like that. And that's where I would use the franchise tag if I needed to. But that's my ceiling as far as what I'm willing to pay him, right That's where I can see this being frustrating. It's it reminds me of DeMarcus Lawrence, where it seems pretty obvious. You're like, you're one of the

best defensive linemen in the game. You do this, this and this, but you have not displayed an ability to completely wreck a game like a Khalil, So why are you asking for more money than Khalil Mack Like Dak, I'm like, you are well deserving of this pay day. You slot right in there somewhere between like you know, four and eight, and we feel great about your upside

everything you do off the field. You got some developing to do, but we feel confident you'll do it, So let's pay you thirty four or a year and call it a day. Right, better than wins and golf by the way, Yeah, who you know, arguably people can say wins might be they're right there neck and neck, but I won't tell you more. Do the Cowboys agree with what I just said? Like are they willing to meet that? And does Dak agree that that's the assessment of his game?

And are he and his people willing to meet that? Like it should be that easy, But so many times we've seen that's not the case, because everybody's trying to maximize in their favor. And I don't blame him for doing that, but that's why we're gonna wind up with it being made eighteenth and Dak's still on the tag and everybody's pissed off, and I'm already dreading having to talk about it. Yeah, all right, think that the Cowboys

definitely have the upper hand here in every single way. One, you're changing your coaching staff, that's basically gonna happen, and you don't know what's gonna come with that, but you're hoping something better. And the fact, again, the whole sponsor thing that really changes a lot. Dak is not gonna get that much attention in any other team that he would land on, and that changes everything. And I think he's a smart guy too, So the way the Cowboys go about this and my problem with that guy and

I like him. I think he's evolving and getting better and all that, but is he a guy that can win games on his own? You know, he needs those other guys to help him. And that's where my problem comes in to question. It's like, okay, now, when you're needing so and so and then this other guy or this other guy to help this one guy win games, that changes things for me as far as how much money or how elite do you think a player is. Well, Dave just been saying, one of the best in the

league Aaron Rodgers. That's what they're doing this year, and they're getting back to the level of success that they got earlier in his career when he was when he did have everything on his shoulders. But this year they're they're playing a he's playing a very efficient brand of football and they're relying on their defense, they're relying on their running game. And I do believe that in this NFL.

I think if you have a really good quarterback, being able to have other pieces around them and being able to use those other pieces and let the quarterback just be the quarterback, I think it's actually the best way to be able to do it. Sometimes you can't do that financially because the amount of money that you have to pay for them. But they don't have those those pieces. I mean, like when when those guys get hurt, the Cowboys aren't the same. I mean, look at last year.

I mean, didd was he that much better in the second half of the season, And when Lamari Cooper came in, I mean, I don't know, and they go to the Jets and then Cooper's out of that game, and the tackles are out of that game, and then the offense just falls apart. Like that's not happening with other guys. It just it just doesn't. So I agree with that they get thrown off very easily with anything that happens.

And like I'm think about, Okay, what's gonna happen this weekend with Sue Philo now being out, you know, he was the one replacing Connor Williams. And then it's like the Cowboys are unable to figure things out. As soon as you take one little piece out of their game and throw them off, they're like, oh my god, what do we do here? And and those are the situation where I would expect the quarterback to be able to

take the bigger load on his back, but haven't. We also said on this show that a lot of that is about the philosophy of the head coach. When you got that next man up mentality, then you can't necessarily absorb those because you don't. You don't necessarily change up what you're doing to account for the fact that this guy's gone. You just say, well, the second guy that's coming in should be able to handle the job, and he can't always handle the job. I don't even know

if that's what next man up means entirely. I think next man up doesn't necessarily mean looney for through a philo and then it's all good. I think it means play better Travis Frederick, play better Tyrants. But that's not the way it's been happening. It doesn't seem like it doesn't. So the example I'll give you is, Okay, you know you're starting left guard is out and you bring in

the next guy. Well, there would be a lot of coaches that may go the route of saying, Okay, we need to protect that left guard a little bit because that that guy's not as good as the guy that was there before. It doesn't seem like the Cowboys take that approach all the time. It's sometimes they take the approach, well, the guy should just be able to play, he should just be able to step up and be that good, And quite frankly, he's not, because if he was, he'd

be the starter. And that's where I get back to. So if you're gonna have that argument, my question becomes, is that more about the coach and them not trying to hide the deficiencies more or is it really about the fact the quarterback isn't doing enough for them to be in spite of it. I think you have a decent point, But I mean, I've just watched Russell Wilson win way too many games where like nobody was helping him at all. Like you're talking about hiding the fact

that you're left guard's not good. He's won games where his whole offensive line was a rat. But that's not that No, that's my point, But too, I mean Seriously, if if you're sitting there and you're telling me you're scared that Dak is not on that level of a guy who can elevate you too, will win no matter how bad things are. I mean, look, Aaron Rodgers has Davante Adams who missed half the season and like not a whole lot else in terms of and and he's

still making it work. Aaron Jones is great, but I'm talking about pass games. Winch is making an argument right now in the same way, like if you're I mean, if you're gonna tell me reverse those roles and you're just like, Dak is going to go into this game without his starting right tackle, both of his starting receivers, his starting his week one starting running back, all that stuff, and find a way to win the game. You feel good about that right now? Can you say to a

certainty that's going to happen? And I think the world of Dac. I think he can grow into that type of quarterback, which is why I'm comfortable paying him. He's not that guy right now, and I get why that scares people, and that yeah, and that's that's a good way to say it. He's just not the guy right now. But we're not saying not to pay him, because those guys get paid. I mean they get paid. Derek Carr got paid, and Matthew Stafford got paid, and Kirk Cousins

got paid. I mean, those guys got paid and they haven't won anything really yet. So that that happens, that's one a little bit more than them. I'm not starting over with Dak. I'm gonna pay him. I'm trying to get the best deal that I can get him, and I'm trying to pay him and not franchise him because I think you need that franchise for other people. And further, you know, Mary, Hey, there you go. Maybe I mean

not that it would happen. Check out the road games and see where we're playing on the road and see how that's going to work. Well, he's not playing well on the road. He sucks on the road this year, and he's pretty good at home. Well, that they got a shot at him, they gotta play. They gotta play eight of him next year too. Last year, you know what, it wasn't just like I mean, he played one of his worst games indoors against the Saints, So it's not

like it was just an outdoor cold thing. I don't know. People. People maybe they can always fly him out the morning of the game. Just let him sleep in his own bed at night and then fly him out and see if that hapens. It's twenty million a year. You can have a house in every place, and then he can get home all over the place. Point to that point, great point. People have been tweeting me a lot because

I root for LSU. They're like, we gotta go after Joe Burrow and I'm just like, like, entertain this idea where Dak isn't the future of your quarterback position even for a second, And you're like, all right, what are we giving up to get into a position where we can get him? How long is it going to take him?

The odds that the odds that any quarterback you draft is going to be ready to be the guy right away, and even that he turns out to be a good quarterback, Like it's a crapshoot getting quarterbacks no matter where you draft him, right yeah, even I mean Baker Mayfield has had a year to forget and people were telling me he was better than Dak at the start of the season, after Rookie of the Year, Right, so that he didn't

get off Barkley. He got did. Yeah. I just however you feel, however you feel about Dak, I think it's a better chance he finds his way under that salary. Then you go back to the well and do what you would have to do to make that one thing real quick. Because I was gonna tease this early. I a lot of fans are like, I don't want the Cowboys to win because I don't want Jason Garrett to be the coach. Jason Garrett is not going to get an extension for beating the Redskins and the Eagles losing

and you back in at eight and eight. He's not getting an extension for that. If they beat the forty nine Ers or Seahawks, he's not getting an extension for that. And even if you win the divisional game, I don't know if that'll do it either. I don't know that, But I'm just saying they went ten and six down the stretch last year and he didn't give him another deal. You're not gonna get it. If Jason Garrett gets an extension, it'll the fans will probably be okay because of what

that meant for the team. That meant I mean, all your perceptions of him would change because if they just went to a level you didn't think he could go to, Which is that going to happen? Probably not, But I'm just saying, don't don't think that that's gonna do anything. I don't think winning getting into the playoffs is going to affect it. It's gonna have to be a deep, deep run and if that happens, and your perceptions of

him might change. If this thing went to the super Bowl right now, I just had an argument with this an hour ago. It's like, well, he went to the super Bowl. We don't want him to win because I'm tired of the clapping. I'm tired of saying all I'm tired from saying he's a good football player and he has been for a long time. Tom Landry was stow it for thirty five years and it was fine because

they were winning. No one cares about the clapping, No one cares about his press conferences, No one cares that he wears blue every day because it's the fact that they don't win always. Right, if he did something to change all that, which I don't believe is going to happen. But if he does, those things are kind of petty now and you don't care as much, but they are

the reasons now because they're eight and eight, you know. Yeah, But and you know if they were to pull that off, if they were to go on a run like that, obviously, like you're going to root for him in the Super Bowl. But I'm playing Devil's advocate with you. But I think people would say, we've got ten years of evidence that suggests he's not that great of a coach, not anymore, because he just showed you. But then that's a four

game sample size. And even though I mean it would be one of the most impressive things has happened in recent NFL history, that's an interesting conversation that we would need another show for it. Should four unbelievable games offset ten years of not so much, Well, you can take his name. You would be able to take his name off that graphic that everybody's seeing where you've been coached

for that long and haven't gone to a super Bowl. Right, then he now becomes a part of that group of guys that have been as tenured as he is and being able to take their team to a super Bowl. So I don't think it changes a bit. I do think there'll still be some people that will be like unless he wins, and even some that might even if he wins, are like I just I'm tired of his stick,

like I'm tired of what he represents. That's all fine and dandy, but they're still going to be rooting for the Cowboy, right So, and that changes if you get to the to the sup Bowl and that conversation we just had five minutes ago about that, that changes too, because if all that stuff happened to go Super Bowl, it's crazy. Sorry, I know we're trying to end the show, but I said this on Twitter. It's not like getting

the music. This thing could end in disappointing fashion in five days, or we could be here five weeks from now. I don't think that's going to happen, but the fact that both things are in play at the same time is very weird. Crazy. How often, like how many times as a head coach had a shot at the playoffs and we're sitting here thinking he might not be the

coach a week from today. That's weird, but here we are, like I mentioned upstairs day, in five weeks, how many games have the Cowboys one one in five weeks, only one game, so there's that. Thanks for having us back to reality again. You appreciate you, guys, John us from back. Tomorrow, we're gonna let you know what we think is gonna happen this weekend, Cowboys versus Redskins. Still then for Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, Ambergarcia, I'm Derek Eaguibson. This has been The

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