Cowboys Break: One or Two?

Welcome the latest edition of The Break live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the right. We' presented by Milla like the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. Thank you our our producer Chris Beam for bringing a little holiday cheer with some good Christmas music there. That was good. That was pretty good stuff. Yeah yeah, nice little beat to it. Do you like it? Sure? Sure? It was outstanding? What good? What was all this Greek stuff? Nothing? I'm just trying to make sure you're in a good mood

for Christmas. You calling me a grant, I know sometimes you're sometimes just not as people used to call me Saint Nick all the time, like for other reasons. I'm saying, I mean, for what other reasons? I'm just because I'm saying that you put sat with Nick. No, we covered the Saint last. Okay, may be there again. Welcome to the show. Appreciate you guys joining us today. We're talking Cowboys versus Eagles. Today we're gonna get into the Eagles

offense versus the Dallas defense. We'll talk some more about this defense too. I know jay Ron Curse has some things to say yesterday I thought were really interesting. But let's start first. I want to look at a big just the bigger picture around the Philadelphia game. I think all of us coming into maybe let's say two weeks ago, we had this game kind of circled on the calendar as this is going to be a real telltell game,

it is going to be an important game. And then the Cowboys lose last weekend and you're in a situation where basically Dallas has to win out and Philly has to lose out in order for you to in order for Dallas to be able to have a shot at the at the NFC East title. But despite all that, they actually already clinched a playoff spot. My question for you guys is how important is this game at this point? Very important, very important because you're not playing great football

right now and you need to figure out. I mean, this is the time you're to start doing that. And I think that that. I mean, this is going to be a very very tough matchup, and I think it's I think it's very it's important because and also you need to be the number five seed. There's no doubt about it. You've got to be the five. The difference between playing at Tampa or Carolina or atlant or whoever New Orleans is way different than playing at Minnesota or

San Francisco. Yeah, really Minnesota. No. I think it's absolutely an important game. And the problem that you're you know, that you're running into is that you need to play like a team that's really desperate. You need to I'm one of these guys that always believes in the desperate

team theory. And to Nick's point, you know the Jacksonville game, the way it ended, it's a bad way that you had that game in hand, You're up, you know the team, you know you had him beat, and you just couldn't finish the game like you finished the game the week before. I think they need to develop some consistency the last three games. I think all these next three games are really now it might not be important as far as um you know where it looks in the standard I understand,

like Nick's right about where the seating is. You you want to go to one of these NFC South teams. You do not want to have to go back up to Minneapolis and let them figure all that out again. So to me, yeah, but you need to find a way to not just be spewing oil going into the playoffs. You know, you need you need, Yeah, I mean it's

a racing term. I mean, you don't you know, you're you're you're running well, all of a sudden, you know, the break hub in the twenty four hours, the role X twenty four let's go, and now you're not winning the race anymore. You know, that's my experience of racing. And so to me, the Cowboys are in that same way. Yeah, they're probably not going to win the division, but finish this thing out, you know, if you can steal rest whatever you have to do, I know, but you need

to be playing your absolute best. You look at the teams that have had success in the playoffs, it's the ones that are scrambling their ass off. And there's that word ass again that you know, you're scrambling your ass off to get into, you know, the postseason, and you're battle tested, and you every week is a playoff game.

I kind of feel like the Cowboys need to treat these games like playoff games, you know, I mean, you know, find your best way, get some consistency, have something to be able to hang your had on when you have to go play in that first round. To me, this game has been the most important game since I believe it was Week six when they last played the Eagles. Since then, I've been looking forward to this game anxiously

because they were so close. And I don't care who the quarterback is for them this week, and it does not matter. The Cowboys need to go out there and win. They're at home. If they don't win this, I mean, it just it does change your tune on what this team can even do in the playoffs. Just talk about moral victories. This is exactly what this would be for the Cowboys. They need to lift their head up and

beat them and beat them good. I don't if they do, I don't want it to be a close game either, Like Yes, it'd be nice if they would go out there and win, but it'd be great if they can just like take over them and show things that they haven't been able to show in the past two weeks, like areas of improvement, because that gives you hope on

what's to come, like especially on defense. If they start doing certain things, even let's say it's a close game, but they do certain things like in the running game, with the secondary things that give you hope in like, Okay, there's some hope there. They can improve in the next few weeks, and then in the playoffs they can be a lot better than what we've seen, especially this last week. So those are the things that I'm looking at. But they definitely need to go out there at at and

T Stadium and beat the Eagles. You guys, think it's a realistic thing at this point at all? Even if let's assume for a second that that Hurts is going to be out for one, two, maybe three games, Do you think it's at all realistic that Dallas can somehow pull three wins together and the Philly loses three or is this really just playing for the fifth seed? No, I don't believe that. I don't. I don't believe they

can do that. I mean that you're basically you're saying that six things have to happen, and really don't have to have six because you got one of them, one of them goes together. But now he just said it, you need they need to established some consistency. I find it hard to believe the Cowboys could win three straight games at this point right now, especially when it's just it's just so hard to keep everyone healthy. I'd have

a hard time thinking that. And then I also think, I don't think you go thirteen and one and then lose three in a row. I mean, the Eagles are a good football team and they're not gonna lose three. I'll say this though about that, that I never thought i'd see a team come back from thirty four points down in a football game with five minutes left to go and basically in the you know, third and all of a sudden their rallying. That's the NFL, I always say,

the Minnesota game. Yeah, the strange lady thing. I mean, I just believe this the saving grace that you might have in this game, or this the way this season is going to end or could end. You get a victory the Saints the following week or playing against philadelph they're playing for a division title. They are they are fighting to try in a bad division. They're trying to get just if they can find a way to get

you know, one game, two more. Yeah, if they find a way to get two more victories, maybe they win this division. So you got you got the Giants who beat the Commanders either now they're trying to play. You know, you've got teams that aren't have the you know, the U haul in the parking lot and there got one foot in the parking lot and one foot in the locker room. You know, you've got teams that legitimately playing the Eagles that are trying to win football games. And

that's maybe you're not good enough. Maybe you're the you know, maybe you're the Giants and you're not good enough. And maybe you're the Saints and you're not good enough. But that's at least your hope. And they got But on the flip side, though, the Cowboys also face those teams as well. Tennessee will be fighting exactly and the Commanders. Yeah,

so yeah, it works both ways. So like you said, if you can find the consistency to beat these teams to get in and all of a sudden you're on a high going in and they're on a downward slide. You know that that momentum is huge in the playoffs, It really really is. I mean, if my Ka Parsons analysis is right, then I guess the quarterback sho didn't

really matter matter that whole life. I'm just saying. I'm just saying these if it's scheme wise and what they're doing just offensively with the kind of plays are calling, and she still work for them. Well, but here's the thing, And that's that's the part I wonder about for Philadelphia. And we'll see how how hurt the shoulder is, like,

we don't really know. We'll find out a lot about that by how much they're willing to play him and if they change what they do schematically, because when you think about it, their scheme probably does have to change.

I think what makes them so dangerous offensively is the fact that that quarterback can run, run, and he can run physically, And I wonder if the shoulder really is a problem, even if he plays, does it make them say, hey, we're going to call a few less of those plays where he's actually running the ball and maybe he's going to run the ball a little bit differently. We've seen him with Dack Nick. You talk about it all the time.

In order for Dallas to be successful, Dak has to be the Dack from twenty sixteen and seventeen where he was an aggressive runner. He took what was there and if you were coming to attack, you better bring you better bring your hat right. So it's it's that kind of thing where it does make me think, are they will they have to change schematically what they're able to do, what they're doing offensively, and if they are, can they

be as successful? Can they take advantage of all those opportunities and all those skill players that they have with a Gardner Minshew who doesn't give you that same running ability, maybe some running ability, but not the same kind of running ability that Jalen Hurts does. I keep thinking back at the Houston game and them changing quarterbacks and kind

of how what that did to the Cowboys defense. I mean, it threw them off completely, I think for the Cowboys defense where they didn't really know how to answer against the switch at the quarterback position. So it just keeps it's gonna be a tough game, regardless who goes out there in plays, is just gonna be a tough game for the Cowboys. I think the running quarterback gives some problems. I think it's the misdirection that gives them even more problems.

I agree with that. I think it's the they do not handle movement going one way and then being able to react. They're they're so trained and go get it. That movement gives them problems. Then all of a sudden, movement turns into big lineman in front and pullers and you know, guys like that. And so the running Cormack. I mean, you watch Hurts play. They got him hurt. I mean they did they as much as they run him.

They you know, you kind of figured something like this was gonna happen, that he's gonna you know, it might not be a separation or a spread, whatever it is. But the way that they run him like he's like a power. It's like a power running game with him. It's a direct snap, it's pullers, it's him taking off running. You know, he breaks the pocket, he runs. What happens he gets whacked in the middle of the field, shoulder, everything going into the ground. You know, that's your guy

right there. And their offense, like you said, Derek, is based on his ability to take the ball and run it in certain situations. But if you're the Eagles, wouldn't you want to just set him out like you're in the playoffs already? Like it doesn't seem smart. And I'm not saying Jalen hurts whether he wants to play or not, him as a player, you as a head coach, and you as a team, wouldn't you want him to just sit down? Heal? And now they put him in the

situation they really did. Yeah, But I mean I think that that makes sense. The only issue you said I think about for them is they have not clinched that number one seed, and the number one seed gets a huge advantage. They're the only team that won't be playing on wildcard weekend, and so until they clinched that, if I were them, I would be like, we gotta do that first, and so we gotta give ourselves the best chance to win there. Yeah. But to her point, is is it better to sit now and get ready to

play next week against the Saints? You know, like he sits this week, A lot can happen. If if Jalen hurts, sits this week and the Cowboys win, and then they go and say, okay, now he's better, he's rested, he goes and they beat the Saints. If that happens that scenario where they lose to the Cowboys without him and he goes and beats the Saints, they could rest him the next week. You could rest him the next week and he wins the MVP. He wins the MVP right there,

because you see the value with him. Does the same thing happen? If they win this week, they get to put on those hats that you talked about right there at at and T Stadium. They I think they may clinch at that point the number one seed. They get all that done this week, and then they got two weeks. But you're taking week risk. You're taking a huge risk. Let's say he injuries, yes, because he's already banked up right, Well,

it depends on how that's that's the part. We don't know how serious this injury is, and so yes, you're right, if it's a serious injury. I know this. If my shoulder hurts, I don't want to throw it fifty times. Yeah, I don't want to get hit again and then you're screwed for whatever is to come into playoffs. I'm just saying like, it just seems that the risk versus reward

doesn't seem worth it. If I'm them, let's say the same situation was happening with Dak, I would not want to play doc this weekend, sit him down, and let's see for next week. I'm just I'm more on the let's let's be saved. I would be if I was them, I would be confident they can win this game with Gardner Minshew at quarterback too. Yeah, this defense. This usually when you play the Eagles late in the year, three of their five offensive linemen are on the injured list.

It's not the case. All five of these guys are clean and ready to go. You get Dallas Goddard back, you got Sanders Gainwell, Boston Scott, you got running backs, you got the defense. It's you know, Cowboys won four or five games. Cowboys beat Cincinnati with the backup quarterback. This team can beat you with Gardner Minshew at quarterback. That's that's the thing. It's not like that they're the

Cowboys are dealing with a lot of stuff. Injury wise, this team isn't and that's why they got the record they do. And one of the reasons why they might think that is exactly what jay Ron Curse tucked about yesterday with the Gardner defense. We're gonna take a first break. When we come back, we're gonna talk about some of those comments and how right he is, or if you guys disagree, we'll talk about them we come back. Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. Todd thought it would be secure

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Ron Curse. He had some interesting comments to that he made yesterday of the media about the defense. Chris, you hey, I think you have that pulled up for us. Let's take a listen right now. You know we talked about bend it's one of the best defenses in the league. In the past two weeks, we haven't shown it at all, So I mean you are what you put on tape. Yeah, you know it just point we haven't. We haven't gotten a job done. We haven't gotten a job done at all.

And just speaking solely from the defense. You know, we scored a third or four points. So Sunday we should we should come out with the victory. We should come up with the victory, and it should be a comfortable victim if we played the VD the defense that that we think we are. That was j Ron Curse Safety for the Cowboys, talking about the defense and their struggles over the last couple of weeks. It's kind of interesting

to me that and our show is included with this. Yeah, it seems interesting to me that coming out of this game, there's been so much talk about Dak Prescott, so much talk about Noah Brown. We talked about the coordinator yesterday. We've talked about a lot of different things. We've had some conversation about the defense. But quite frankly, I think

j Ron Curse hit the nail on the head. That game on Sunday was about the defense, not being what we thought they were because what we saw early in the season, they were giving up less than twenty points a game. Yeah, you're given up that few points. Thirty four should be again a way to comfortably win this game. Question for you guys is is it as simple as the personnel's personnel that they've lost or do you think there's something deeper going on with this defense. I think

the answer is both. I do. I do think that. I'm never one to say, well, that's just an excuse about injuries. No injuries matter. That's why people get paid differently in the league, because some people are just better than others. And so it's okay to say that they're they're hurting, especially when you keep having the injuries at the same position. So it's a tough one at cornerback

right now, and it's and it's been a struggle. But I do think, and I'll let Brian speak to this even more about I think that teams are figuring out some ways to kind of neutralize Micah Parsons and neutralize them things that the Cowboys do the best. Yeah, I think you're right about that. I will say this for Jern Curse, one of the most guttiest goal line stands I've ever seen to win a game, you know, and in a game that it was a one and eleven team you're playing, but you needed to find a way

to win in this game. Yeah, that game could have just been an absolute disaster if you lose that and defense those an interception, the balls on the eight yard line, and you goal line stand and get them the ball back. So I see what Curse is doing here. He's a stand up guy. This defense is really really banged up. But the first half of the season, they've got you to this point. They've got you to the point where you're now in the tournament. You know, you won games

with a backup quarterback because of your defense. This is about the offense. Now, I'll keep saying this. You know, when you're really beat up and compromised, somebody else has to pick things up. I need to hear offensive players saying, listen, we got to help our defense here. You know they're beat up over there a little bit, but we'll pick this thing up. I heard drunk. I heard Curse talking about defense needs to play better. I didn't heard anything

about the offense needs to play better. I don't know. I don't you know they asked Dak the questions about turnovers and stuff. I need to be better, I need to stay, don't need to be aggressive, need to think about things. You know. It's now time for the offense, you know, and they're they're too beat up to play the way they need to play. And Nick, I appreciate you acknowledging the thing about how teams have figured some

things out here. Absolutely they have. They figured out that, you know what, we could paralyze this defense with with movement and with you know, with deception and counters and play with their eyes. And when they play with their eyes, the Cowboys aren't as good a defense because they're not

always discipline enough to play. And maybe that's the thing that bothers me the most about it, because you're going to see teams continue to run counters and boots and waggles, and they're gonna make you have to defend the whole field that way. But this is really about the offense now. It's about the offense not turning over the football and figuring out how to win these games when this defense is compromised. Because I don't think it's gonna get any better.

You'll have some guys like Blanding. Those guys probably play better, but some of these other guys they brought in need to step up as well, but also too foul or armstrong. Yep, Bohannah, you guys have got to figure out something. Did not let blockers get up on these linebackers that are having problems too. You know, I was thinking it came to my head. I'm like, Okay, is what happened to the Cowboys offense last year in the second half of the year.

Now happening to the Cowboys defense this year? Like on the flip side, you know, how they figure something out? Yeah, Like the last year, the offense was working really, really good and in second half of the season they just kinda weren't producing as they should. And now that's not necessarily fair to say about the defense completely because you have to take into account the amount of injuries. The offense last year was pretty healthy towards the end of

the year. But you talk about being able to respond differently with things that you've gotten glimpse off throughout the season. For example, run the offense. That has been the one problem that they consistently had since the beginning of the year, and they haven't. Necessarily. They even started to improve there, but it never really fully clicked to where they have a definite solution to it and how to respond to how to stop the run. Now you knew what you

had with Kelvin Joseph. I mean, I just don't understand how you get to this point to where he was your best man available and you're playing him out there, and now you're sitting here, freaking what week is that into December? We're about to be in Christmas. You're sitting here in the end of December trying to have a

cornerback competition. And again, not that you expected Anthony Brown to go down, not that you expected expected Jordan Lewis to go down either, but you do expect everybody else that's down the line as a backup to be preparing as if the moment was to come. I mean, that's how I assume they handle these practices. You don't just dismiss the guys are down the depth chart. You keep

working them out. But the point is, like, it sucks that we're sitting here about to have like a cornerback competition, trying to figure out, Okay, who's the best man to go out there? And they have addressed some things with the signing of some veteran guys. But it's just it's the way that And I love dan Quinn, but I do feel disappointed right now because I thought so highly of him and I still do. But the way he's handled the past couple of weeks, it's just I expect

the better from him. What did you What did you want different? Because I look at dan Quinn and I'm like, he's trying. I think he's trying and throwing things like he knew the run defensive problem. They went out, they got Hankins. Hankins gets hurt. They like he is. He's looking for solutions here. He's trying to figure out how to make it all work together. Then there's a time he had to move Michael a linebacker and made that move and then realize, well, we're not getting any pass

rush one. I don't have him at defense. So he's trying. I don't know what you would want him to do different. At some point, the players, Nick, you talked about this yesterday. At some point the players just got to do their jobs right. No, You're absolutely right. I think it comes down to the players and to the talent itself, because you've seen that and Quinn throw guys in there. You talk about Sam Williams when he was first thrown in there, he responded to that he did good. You talked about

Darren Blind throwing him out there. He responded to that did good. Now I guess, yes, I guess you do have to put it. You gotta give him credit for Armstrong. They got rid resolutely, they got rid of, they got rid of, you know, they got Gregory Gregory, and then they put they say, well, hey, no, this guy's just as good and he's had a great eye for the talent development. But I guess he might have missed on Joseph. On Joseph, and I honestly it seems like it definitely

missed on Joseph. Yeah, And that seems to me like that's one of those things where and Brian, you've worked in personnel, so you could speak to this, but you're not gonna go one hundred percent. And this is one where I bet right now the people that were in the room saying I think we can get something out of Joseph or right now, like man, we might have

messed this one up. Like it happens like that's that's where I mean, I come on this show and I apologize, I love you, I just have to talk this out. But yes, it comes down to the player and the talent that I'm not a fan of right now. Well, the thing about it is, I, as the former personnel guy, I'm saying, well, do this with Joseph, do this with Joseph, do this, and then you see things not work and you're like, man, maybe they that was a mess up

on our part. Personal guys. We'll wear that one. We'll wear that one. But the thing about it is now, it's it's you know, you need something to change, and now you really you're you're just searching for that change. I mean, they need to get back to being able to rush the passer. That's number one. That's their strength.

Because I've said this before. If they don't rush the passer, they're very ordinary defense because their secondary can't hold up, especially with the way it's configured now, it can't hold up well enough. And you know the other thing I'll say is just in this team in general, one thing I love about this coaching staff, and it goes offense defense too. They are not we saw for a lot

of years with Jason Garrett. They would have a player and he would be struggling and they would be like, it's going to keep going with and they'll keep going with him. And you're watching and you get a guy that's that tackle that gives up six sacks in a game like that happens, right, what we've seen is it happened with Josh Ball. He had those two mistakes. They're like, get somebody else in there, Like, let's get him out. Maybe you just need to have a break Kelvin Joseph

last week two touchdowns, all right, get him out. We need to get somebody else in there. I actually applaud the fact they're not gonna just sit on it and say, well, somehow miraculously, the guys just gonna play better, right, Like, get somebody else. And so for them to have a cornerback controversy, I mean, a cornerback competition at this point. It's not ideal, but it's better than the alternative of saying, we're just gonna trust that Joseph is going to get better.

I'd rather than bring in these vets and say, let's just throw what we can throw at it at this point, and let's see how we can get better in this situation. You're also you don't seem to here about what the what the draft picks status is, and that not in terms of playing now, in terms of keeping him. That's fine, then that's always going to be the case. But you know, Chaz Green was a was a top one hundred pick

and they wanted to see what he could do. And tell Vin Joseph is a second round pick, and you know it's not. It's not working out. And I don't think that anyone cares right now of what draft status is. Even Jerry on the radio and asked about him yesterday said, you know what, sometimes draft picks take a little longer to develop. He didn't call him a bus but he said sometimes it doesn't mean even if you're a high pick, it takes longer for you to develop. Ye. All right,

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in this final ten minutes of the show. McCarthy said earlier this week, the Dallas is going to prepare for both quarterbacks. My question for you guys, how difficult is that? How difficult is it when you have to prepare for two different quarterbacks, particularly at that position. I would prepare for Hurts first, is what I would do. I would I would try and and and just because that's going to be the harder of the prep because if all of a sudden, if you see that now, they can

also gauge this. You know, you practice, you know yesterday, you practice today, you practice, you know thirty, So you're going to see during the week the progression of whether he practices or not. If Hurts keeps not practicing, then every day I'm going like preparing for two, preparing for two, preparing for one, preparing for one. That's what I would do, just as I read the injury report. But the harder

of the preparation will be for hurt. So make sure you take care of that, you know, Nick sirianni uh he was, he was like, hey's this guy's Wolverine. He's got superpowers, he can regenerate body parts. You know. I'm like, well, geez, and put him out there for the US military. I mean, neck, he can save the world, you know that kind of thing. But you can tell I don't really like Nick Sirianni very much. But the thing about it a lot, I don't want to call him what his shady called, you know,

our guy. So but anyway, I would prepare for hurts. Let's get I'm not all about I'm about doing my homework to try and and and I'll tax watch games. Yeah, I actually watch games, and I do it for this show too. This is this is gonna be tough though. And we all know this. We all, I mean we've we know the Philadelphia Eagles enough to know the AJ Browns and Smith at wide receiver, and you know what they bring. The offensive line, Jordan My alot of Landing Dickerson.

They they've they're they're outstanding. It's a it's a group that when they with hurts, it's a hard offense to stop because of the thread of the running corps back, that ability just to take the snap on second and ten and run for a first down or break a pocket, you know. So it's about discipline. It's about it's about the ability, and it's very simplistic to say it's about tackling. It's about getting bodies to the ball and getting guys on the ground, and you know they got back. We'll

see how much they get out of Dallas Goddard. But when we played the previous time, Dallas Goddard was the big screen pass guy. You know that's people do not want to Now if Gardner Minshew's the quarterback, I will feel like that they're going to You're gonna see a lot of Sanders, You're gonna see a lot of Gainwell, the running. I don't know if you'll see the quarterback

run as much. I don't think you'll see the quarterback behind him as Ian books, so you know they've got guys that can kind of do the offense, but I don't think you'll see the element of the quarterback running the ball like you do with Hurts. So if that's the case, then be ready, be ready for the backs, be ready for the screen game. They do a lot of combination routes. When I talk about that, it's the you know, the vertical and then the outs behind it.

They kind of work little route combinations and they make it really easy for Hurts just to have to throw the ball, and they kind of tick down the field. And they could also hit you with the home run ball. With with Smith, I mean he could he could fly. Brown can get down the field. They're really good blocking up front. It's an athletic big line. The movement and all that will be a problem for you in this game. And like I said, they're coming into this game really

really healthy. Other than at quarterback, you've watched obviously several games, Brian, let me ask you this question. Let's assume it hurts plays. Yeah, have you been able to because I think right now he's playing on a level where he's really m VP status. That is how he's playing right now. People can say what they want to say about him. He's playing at

that level. Have you find an area found an area of his game where you think that you think is exploitable and that's something that Dallas's defense can actually exploit. He when he when you have turnovers and games, you know in this in this last game and he against the Bears, he threw two interceptions and both of them were off balance, moving backwards, kind of not feet planted throws. Sometimes I'm not gonna say he's going to get greedy, but sometimes he trust his arm a little more than

he probably should. So if you're trusting your arm, when he could stand there and throw, I feel like that's game on for him. But when you get him kind of falling back sideways making him have to make a he'll make some bad decisions. He gets away with some bad decisions too, But the Bears made him pay for a couple. But balls were floated into areas where, bro, why'd you throw that? You know what we're looking at where he was trying to make that Almost like with Dak.

Sometimes we see Dak that you know, he's trying to make the big play to Tony Pollard down the sidelines instead of hitting Noah Brown dragon underneath on third down to get the first you know, he tries to hit the I think that's the thing with hurts when his feet aren't set. I think it's a problem for him because I don't know if he gets enough on the ball, and then his decision making could be a little a

little a little wonky there too. And we said it all along that you know with digs can cover you know pretty much anyone it's that second receiver. You feel like that they have the best second receiver in the league in in DeVante Smith. Yeah, for the combination. Yeah, the thing about the thing about the combination too. But but I mean you just talk about the second receivers. I mean, they've played some teams that have had some good in Minnesota has a couple of good receivers. But

you're in a you're in a in this situation. Smith is like he's so it's like his routes are like big play routes. It's not like, oh, let's catch a screen and just kind of go or oh it's a little slammer. Oh, It's just it is like deep or a cross or down the field, and when he catches the ball, it's generally a big play. That's the thing that makes him so great at you know, as a second receiver, you got a big old A J. Brown.

It's gonna just do a lot of the inside stuff, catch the ball underneath, you know that kind of stuff. And then you got Smith. It's just gonna clear and go and then they're gonna take a shot because oh wait, we're karn a J. Brown here. But all of a sudden, you got the clear that's open, and now they hit the ball all the way down the field because they're getting the protection to throw the ball. So he is outstanding just for the big play aspect of the I

mean justin you know, making those kinds of catches. He's one of the best. Um we've taken kind of a break from like the amount of penalties that the cow was getting. You call it, we take a break. I called him out for that, so I might have to call him out again to keep it going. My question for you was gonna be, like, do you think that

on defense? Because now you're trying to make up for the type of game you put out last week and you're trying to get these guys, and these guys are trying to like make PLAYCE tackled here and that did they now become a little more Uh, what's the worstest passive accessible susceptible making those types of mistakes that now

you're kind of drawing penalty calls on yourself. Yeah. I was really worried about uh, you know, uh, with Joseph playing in press coverage, you know, I was really kind of worried about him if getting holding penalties and things like that. I was checking to see real quick if you if I knew who the crew was for this game, because sometimes I could tell because last week's game there these the the official Sean Smith's crew was very much unnecessary roughness. Had one of those. You had one of

those in the game, you know with Williams. They were very much defensive holding and defensive PI and they were also OPI offensive passenger for which they didn't call in the game at all. There was a couple of different opportunities where they could where they could have definitely uh you know taken. They could have called it on Jacksonville for a push off. I felt like Joseph got pushed. There were a couple of different times routes Kirk got Kirk pushed one time that they could have they could

have called so uh yeah, it just makes it. I think it's a lot of it's a lot to do with with what the crew is, what the cruise going on. I mean I think that that's a yeah, they don't have the cruise up yet. Who's who's ref in this game yet? So but yeah, but you know, tomorrow we'll come in here or we'll talk about it, and I'll be able to tell you like, hey, you need to worry about these penalties this week. But I think the Cowboys have done a really good job the pre snaps stuff.

That's the stuff I think that kills this team a lot. About twenty eight penalties and three games in November, including thirteen in the in the uh Thanksgiving the game, but three games in November, twenty eight penalties, three games in December nine eight eight, Yeah, yeah, Alex, Alex camping is reasoning or thought in this whole thing is because you're you know, this is a huge game for you. Now you're maybe just trying too hard to make the play

or whatever word. Now you become a little reckless in that aspect to now you're drawing some pen like unnecessary penalties on yourself. It just just the thought that in case some of these younger guys or whatever, uh where, that could maybe become a problem again, even though they're

taking a short break from that. You know, another thing about this Cowboys defense, Um, the last two games they've given up there, they've they've allowed their opponents to have a season high in third down percentage in Houston at forty six point seven. That barely was the most. But then Jacksonville sixty six point wow. Yeah, eight out of getting off the field. Yeah, and so you know, and that and a lot of that too, is the running

to keep it manageable. Yeah, stay ahead of the chains bit. Yeah, it's kind of one of the cliches we always talk about, but in this case, it's staying ahead of the chains works for teams who are playing the Cowboys right now. Yeah, we appreciate you guys to join us. We're back tomorrow. We're gonna jump into Philadelphia as a defense versus the Dallas offense, and we're gonna wrap it up. It's gonna be our final show of the week before we head

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