Cowboys Break: New Draft Need Emerges

no idea. It's been a while since. That's it. Maybe if I heard the real song. I'm Stained, Stained Stained? Who's that? That's a very popular song, But I just know that that's the name of the song, with the name of the band the same, staying the songs. It's been a while, Okay, Yeah, and it starts. Do you know I know the song? I didn't know the jan But then again, I mean, nobody he's gonna be can't in the Battle of North should they like? He is

a professional? Bronus is pretty good at that too, is he? Yeah? But only for certain I would assume that's only for certain time periods. I don't know he knows Jake Hole or something. Now, well that's not by choice, not by choice. All right, Well, we have a lot of things to talk about. I know you guys had an emergency podcast last week. Emergency. Yeah, very very unexpected. Um, although you guys talked about Jason Witten. I'll be honest, I don't

really listen to the podcast. But we're gonna still hit on a definition I had to write article. A lot of people did, huh A lot of people did. Yeah, yeah, they did, they did. So sorry if we repeat some of the things y'all already hit. But oh well, let's just start off. Obviously, Jason Witten returned very unexpected. I don't think anyone really knew that this was actually happening, so it took us all by surprise. Now, what does

this exactly mean for the Cowboys? As far as you know, the change in the position, it was a position of discussion, a necessity during this offseason and for the draft. Now, how does this turn things around? People are starting to question would he be a progress stopper? Once again, I think it changes the urgency of the position of and I think you know, there'll there's people here that disagree with that, that you know you still got to go and maybe draft one. I don't agree with that. I

don't think you have to draft a tight end. If you do, that's fine. I don't. But let's see what happens with Swain. I think that they like him, they may want to try to bring him back, but I don't think that you have to go reach for one. Here's a tight end, he's slipping. We gotta move up ten spots to get him. If one falls in your lap, don't turn your nose to it. But you have young tight ends that you like. You have the greatest tight

end to ever play it also on the team. I don't think you're forced to go get a tight end. The only thing I think this does, in my opinion, and this is not speaking for the team. In my opinion, the only thing this does is it gives you another year to develop your young talent. So I don't look at this. I think of this as the Cowboys went out and got a veteran tight end to add to their mix. Throw the name out of the window. Not Jason Witten. Don't think of it like that. They went

out and got a veteran tight end. To add to the mix. And to me, if you go out and get a veteran tight end who's thirty seven years old to be able to add to the mix on a one year deal, that means tight End is still an important part for you to be considering how are you

going to do it moving forward. They may look at it and say, we think with another year of development, particularly with development and Jason Witten being in the room, Schultz and Schwartz, Schultz, I Schultz sworts whatever I keep

getting an anyway him and Blake Jarwin. You give them another year of development with someone with the experience of Jason Witten in that room with them, they actually may end up being good enough for you to be able to play with for next year, year after that, year after that, year after that, Right, And so if that's the way they view it, then that works. I don't think. And this is where I differ with you a little bit. Nick.

If I were going into the draft this year thinking I need to draft somebody because what I saw from those two guys last year suggests to me that they will never be anything more than a number two, then I still look at it this year in the draft, I need to get myself a replacement, and that's gonna give me a year of that young guy developing, because Jason's gonna be here for him to be the man

by next year. Right. So I don't think if I'm the Cowboys, I don't let this change my opinion on what I do for the future of the tight end position at all. If I was gonna drive somebody, I'm still gonna make it a priority to drive somebody. If I was gonna let these two guys develop, I'm still gonna let these two guys develop. I just think Jason gives you a little bit of a little bit of extra to go into the season knowing you got some

experience there. Now, when you look at a guy like Sean Lee and his history of injury and having to be off to the side and kind of coaching the whole group and being in good spirits, Now you look at a guy like Jason Witten, who was a guy that never got off the field and it was very possessive about his place on the field in his position. Do you think that this would be a year where he would be okay with giving those reps to the younger guys, given that clearly he's not going to be

here for a long time. As far as playing on the field now, as far as repetitions on the field, how much he plays, how much he gives room to those young guys to develop. How do you see this kind of playing out? Well, he's gonna it's gonna it comes down to who's the best player. And I think that I think it's as simple as that. I mean, in his mind, for years, he was the best guy. He was the best option. Um. I think he's understanding

that that now it won't always be the case. I don't think he's the best player on this tight end group. Yeah you do, Yeah, I do. And they think that everyone, I mean, who doesn't. No, I don't know. I was just asking when when you said when you said that, it made me wonder, like, did you think that one of those other guys maybe is better than at this point? No? No, No, I just think that it sounds good to say, you know what, Jason, you come in here, you're not going

to be the way it was. You need to kind of split time. That sounds good. If he's still head and shoulders above the next best option, then he may not, you know, be off the field that much. I have a feeling he won't be head and shoulders above the next tight end like he has been for so many years. Right, I don't think so. You think he might be better, but it's a slight I think I think they'll be They'll be room for for Schultz and Jarwin to do

some stuff. And that's why I just I continue to disagree on that on that tight end, you're not really letting those guys develop. I'm not saying don't draft the guy in the sixth or se the rounding draft one, but if you draft one in a third or fourth round, I mean you're getting another Schultz. Maybe maybe maybe you draft Schultz and you figured out after a year with him,

you don't think he's gonna because here's the thing. For Schultz, at least the way I viewed it, I think last year, particularly as a blocker, I think he has a lot of room to grow. Now. Part of that is he's gonna have to get stronger. He's gonna have to maybe get a little bigger this offseason, and that's something you can do. We've seen guys make big jumps between their first and their second year when they're in the offseason program.

So I think there's a possibility there. But if they've made the decision, I don't know that they have or have not. But if they've made the decision, we think after working with him for a year, we don't think he's the guy that's actually gonna be our future. There. You can go back to the well and you can get a third round pick that maybe your future there, because it's not unheard of. I think you can get a third round tight end that ends up being Jason Witt.

I think they like him though. I do think they like Jarwin and Schultz to the point where this is this is good for them. Not saying they will not draft the tight end, but I don't think that they'll be a need for them to get when if somebody is falling, and then you know, you have to look at that, but you would look at that at any position. Yeah, which again I'm not saying that that they necessarily have to.

I'm saying if I were the Cowboys, whatever my plan was before, this decision doesn't change that because this is still just a one year rental. I mean right now, it's a one year deal for Jason Witten. So whatever you do, right now. What you don't want to do

is you don't want to end up next year. Jason's now out, he's retired at that point, and you didn't do anything to prepare yourself, you know now, Like he may have caught you by surprise a year ago when you decided he was going to go to the booth. Next year, it should be no surprise that Jason Witten

won't be here. So whatever you thought you needed to do in order to shore up your tight end position, you better still be doing that preparing for next year because next year you probably aren't gonna have him, right, But I do think that you like, if you think Shultzer Jarwin could maybe be a starter, which I think Jarwin has a chance to do that, then then that's why it changed. Are you gonna opinion on what I have to do? But that's no different than what free

agency is. Free agency is shoring up some of your needs so you can go into the draft and take best player. Right, So that's the point. Don't worry about

the name Jason Witten. What they did is they got the veteran tight end and that gives them some flexibility for a year, and you were able to save him with when Swain went in, the things that he was able to start doing that you hadn't seen before, and even when he got out with the injury, these other guys, Blake and Dalton were able to start getting to somewhere.

It happened later in the year, so there wasn't enough time to see a real growth there, but there was still some growth that you were able to notice, and it is important those reps on the field and these guys do need it. Now. For a guy like real quick, I'm sorry, ahead, go ahead now, I was gonna say, real quick, I don't know if you're moving to another topic. Okay, then go and finish your point. I was done with that point. I was going to ask another question about win. Okay, well,

real quick, I know that Ken't just said. He has an actual clip of Jerry talking about this particular subject, about the fact of whether they would use a draft pick on a tight end. So why don't we listen that real quickly to see what Jerry had to say about it would be a progress stopper for the young guys. And does that impact your decision on a tad draft? Not at all. We um it won't do anything, but accentuate what the tight end, what Whitten's position can do

on our team. It will do that. It won't deter us in any way of using our first pick for a tight end if we have the opportunity to. And I don't look as Witten as a progress stopper. I think when you look at how hopefully we can spread the ball around, put enough stuff in during OTA's put enough stuff in and training camp, call on them as we go through the season, I think that Whitten will have his place. He certainly has got his place in what we do in our blocking and protection and running.

All right, So it sounds like it sounds like, it sounds good. It sounds like they at least like they almost look at it similar to how I'm saying it from the standpoint that if they were going to find a tight end, if there was one that was available to them, they certainly wouldn't say no, let's not worry about that, but maybe not a priority like, oh my god, we gotta do this. But I don't know that there

are a lot of those this year anyway. I mean, you can talk about safe, you can talk about defensive tackle. Outside of that, I don't know that you look at any position and say we gotta come out of this gap with this player, right, Yeah, I mean there's not many positions like that. I would say running back needs to be one of them, though I think it should be. I don't know if they believe that though maybe not. I mean maybe it's addressed in free agency. But but

I do think Ola Wally is Oh, he's a free agent. Actually, yeah, that's true. He's a free agent, and he's one of the guys that that they'll you know, I think they're gonna try to resign him, um and from what I hear, maybe give a little bit of expanded role. I mean, I know that everyone that's listening needs to calm down from their cheering because I know they're really excited about when I say, Jim Zola Walley could be, you know,

a factor into the running back rotation. But explain that to me, like from the standpoint of just how you see it and what what his value is, how he performed last year, give me and the other people out there listening a reason to believe that maybe there needs to be a like he needs to be a guy that they would want to resign because it didn't seem like, to me, they really used him that much, and it certainly didn't seem like when he did out those opportunities

that he really did a ton with it. Now and I think what what they see is, first of all, he led the team in special and special teams tackle, so somebody has to do that. He did that. He's a big running back. I don't know exactly what is I mean, I would say to thirty or so to twenty five, he's one of the fastest players on the team.

Not that many people knew that. Yeah, seriously, and when you say one of the fast is like one of the top team, one of the top twenty, Like, are you talking like one top three, six, one two forty two? I think he runs in the I think he runs in the four four range four four four five. He's fast, He's super fast. That's why he's leading the team. He's running down there. And he's big. He's a big guy.

He's a built like a linebacker. I think now we all remember the Colts game where the ball went through I mean it looked like he dropped about. Yeah, he had like a couple of passes thrown his way and he dropped it. But I do think that he's a guy that they're looking at to sort of return at the running back position, maybe get a few more carries there. There's not a lot of carries to go around. I mean, and that I'm just saying he might be like the third guy. It does sound like Rod Smith has played

his last game with the Cowboys. So you know that's what free agency's you know, happened right there. He's not gonna change you from drafting someone, but I just think, you know, you actually mentioned him, but he'll be a guy that you're throw in there. I'm missing some place. Oh no, no, that's the actual Oh here we go. Yeah, we're watching the play of Jamay's man. He got oo, I mean he got open. So there's something touchdown and that Dak takes the heat. You know, Dak's the quarterback.

He gets shut out. And I'm pretty sure you killed him that day, didn't you, Dak. You didn't play well. They got shut out. I mean, I understand that that was the pass for a touchdown, but honestly, honestly, I don't think that was a good pass. I hate it was a good passing. It wasn't a good pass. Any ball that hits the guy in his hands, especially in his hands where he doesn't know. I'm not saying catchable. It was definitely catchable. I think my three year old

maybe could have caught it. I'm cold, I'm saying putting money on it. I don't think it was a great pass. Did it not hit a cloud? I mean that's not mass. But no, no, no, when you're talking about a guy that doesn't normally catch passes, you kind of need to throw it like that, like you don't want to bullet

it in there because he doesn't normally catch passes. I had to see I had to see that whole play again short now, I know, but I mean I had to see that whole whole play again where he threw it, because he seemed like he could have thrown it a little bit in a better spot. I'm not saying the guy I shouldn't have made the catch. I'm just saying for that pass that wasn't getting a little two peaky, that yeah, a little two peaky. He could have caught that for sure, and he could have. I'm not saying

he could have. I think it was a better path. I bet Dak would come in here and tell you it was a better path. Yes, I don't know about that. I didn't mean to go down that tangent. Alright. Well, just I'm fascinated with the fact that that you could go and get it. Yeah, you didn't know that up. Yeah, that wasn't queue up in our in our pre production meeting, can't We did not talk about that, all right? Well, going back, going back to Jason Wood and just to

close on that topic for now for today's show. You know, he during his last year, we were already talking about him kind of slowing down in the way he was already playing, and you started noticing that. Obviously he's about to turn thirty seven in May, getting up there in age. But when you have a guy that retires and comes back, there's a difference there, and it usually doesn't go the way you wanted to go, even though it was just one year. How much do you think this will affect

the way he performs on the field. I'll be very interested to see, because you're talking about a guy that already wasn't a fast guy, not necessarily a guy that's quick twitch. Maybe that means there's not a huge difference because he never was really quick, right, and he was crafty, and maybe craftiness doesn't leave as quickly as a year, right,

so maybe you don't see a huge difference. I will be very interested to see it, though, because if you're doing anything athletic, you take a year off from that form of training and there's gonna be some difference, Like you got to work your way back up to that. You don't just walk back in and all of a sudden everything is back. I do know he's a concert

a worker. So if he's a consummate worker, then maybe this offseason he can regain a lot of whatever he had kind of gone, whatever had gone down do to him do the inactivity or or not working out in a football kind of way. Do you think he was working out last year? Maybe not, not only at the level as an NFL player, But you know they still they still work out. Yeah, they still want to get that sweat like we all work out, like it's just

what you do. Let's not forget too that. Like you know a lot of players when they stopped playing, We've said it a thousand times, they go one way or the other. They look really small or they kind of balloon up. But um, he was on TV more than he ever was as a player, so obviously his appearance and stuff was important to him. Um changed his hair

and everything, so you know, it was it was different. Now, like you said, he's not the only player on this team that maybe he just grew without having to have wear helmet. You know, Yeah, we're in a helmet that you can't leave that alone. You just had to go back in on that. I thought we're just gonna just just comb over that play. But yeah, go ahead, Um, when you're talking about being off for a year coming back and you know, and what kind of shape are you gonna be in? Do you get it? Does it

all come back to you? There's two players on this team that are going to be looking at that, and both of them their last game that they played was in the Pro Bowl, Travis Frederick Jason Witten. So they're coming in their high level player if they still were playing at a high level. But they've been out a year for different reasons obviously, and it'll be interesting to see.

But if they can get these guys to come back and play at that level or close, I mean, think about how different this team is from a year ago at this time a year ago. Really great Frederick and Witten and even Amari Cooper for a whole offseason in full year. You know, we'll see if they get anyone in free agency, but hold just Frederick Um. He's probably okay. So he's still relatively young. And the reason why I make that just action is because again you and I know,

because we've broached both of those ages. We've already been at both those ages. There's a big difference between getting your body to bounce back from being inactive at the age of twenty seven, Ken, it is at the age of thirty seven. Yeah, there's a difference, And so I'm interested to see, as an older guy, can you get your body back to doing the kinds of things like there's a thing like when you start talking about stuff like cutting. And this will probably resonate with a lot

of our listeners out there. When you get you up with thirties early forties, if you used to playing basketball and you don't play basketball for a long time and then you go out and play basketball, you have pains that you never knew there was something there to actually hurt because you're not used to the torque, you're not used to the cuts you got. Did you hear did you hear this conversation today. Yeah, that's funny that you said that. Somebody came by today and asked if we

were playing basketball. Yeah, and next week because the conference to es state tournaments, you know, at the Star, and we've played last year, and so I'm like, yeah, I'll try to get out there. I thought maybe you'd no idea, but you've had that experience. I remember us talking about it like I did it with racquetball. First time I played racquetball when I hadn't played in a long time.

It hurt, and it hurt because again, you're not used to the torque, and the older you get, the heart it is for your body to adjust to cutting and bending and all that kind of stuff. That's the part I'm interested to see if Jason Witten, if his body can handle that, because what happens a lot of times you end up injured because your body's not used to it.

That's where I'll be interested to see. Not so much is he as slow as he always was, or faster than he was or whatever I think it's going to be more can his body handle the rigor of doing something he hasn't done for a year. Yeah, all right, Well, let's go ahead and take our first break. When we come back, well you get into de Marcus, Lawrence and David or Arena a little bit and Randy Gregory. A

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you know, work into something else. Now, there's still time to negotiate a deal, I believe until July fifteen, right, and they can still get to that point. But as if stant right now, what do you think it's going to happen. Here is he going to sign it? Could he miss OTAs? Could he hold out to kind of wait, like what's the status? And there's another factor in there we talked about yesterday that Um, Derek and I think are on different you know, spectrums of this about what

this means. But his his shoulder surgery that he needs. He has torn labor and he needs UM that that procedure done. And he sounds like he's waiting on this. This is something I okay, let me ask you real quick. I read the reports and this is something I don't really understand as to why wait on the surgery, Like, if you need it, you're gonna need it, right. Yeah. But that's that's I think that's the point of what Nick's getting at, finished saying with You're saying, let's see

if it answers her question. I just it sounds like and I and I haven't talked to DeMarcus about this or really talked to him at all, um, except for Chucky Cheese. But he wasn't talking about random Yeah, but uh, he basically was saying that, you know, I mean, I think he's just saying I can do this at my

own time. I would like to get this thing done, but if this thing drags out, then I'll do it whenever I signed the deal, And then that means he could miss part of the season and they're paying twenty point five million, which is I don't know math one point two one point three million per game and missing four or five games because of that. So that's gonna

be real interesting to see. I think I don't think there's being I don't think there's a rift yet, but if the longer he holds on that, I think it will be. I'm worried. I'm worried personally because I do think that, and I don't know that he is or is not using this as leverage, but I think he can. He can, and I do believe. I know there's some

that believe it's not leverage. I do believe it's leverage because the way I look at it is, if you're him, you're sitting there and you're thinking, okay, well, basically, in a scenario where let's be honest, the CBA doesn't give players a whole lot of leverage in the situation, really none at all. But the one piece that he has it times up that he has an injury. So let's assume for a second that he says, Okay, well, I'm not gonna have the surgery until I get a long

term deal, all right. That puts that makes a situation where one or two things happen. Either the Cowboys get him a deal sooner so that he can go ahead and get the surgery so he can be ready for the season, or they wait up until the last minute and get a deal. Then he has to get the surgery or play with a bump shoulder for the rest of the year, or they kicking it gets past that deadline, and then it has to be either you sign the franchise tag or nothing. And he says, okay, I'll sign

the franchise a day. I'll get the surgery tomorrow. So basically, you're gonna pay me the franchise tag for a year for me to sit and do nothing because I'm gonna have to rehab, right And so for me, I look at that and I'm like, that gives him some leverage. Now you can grade it out and say how much leverage does he have? Does that then create you know, badwill with the organization in the deal In a situation where he wants them to actually give him a long

term deal and trust him. He's the right kind of guy. All those things are valid, But I think in a scenario in a CBA where there's very little leverage given the players, I think this does give him some and that worries me because I look at this right now and I'm saying, man, this defense took so many steps ahead this year. I would hate to see anything happen

that takes them backwards. And having that kind of guy as your primary prap pass rusher and the leader of by the way, that defense, I just think there's a

lot that can go wrong. So I'm hopeful that both these guys are just kind of they're having these conversations and really behind the scenes it's much more amicable than that, and that he's not thinking about this as leverage, and the Cowboys are really in good faith trying to find a great deal, and everybody wants to get to the bottom line, and everybody's on the same page that we're gonna pay you. We just need to find all we need to fine tune this to get it to the

right dollar amount. If all that's happening, I love it. It's not if it's not that bottoms though. It's not happening because they offered him at lowball deal this week. And I say lowball because that's how you negotiate right now and you have to work. It's what you do. But why did you start it last week? Why not after the Rams game? You know you like him, you know you need them. You know, why are we starting

all this then, especially when there's surgery. I think that's the biggest issue there, right And doesn't that beg the question if that continues? You don't have a deadline until July.

The problem with that is if he holds out on the start shoulder surgery, that means it affects your season, and then he starts getting frustrated, and then that starts causing issues because now you're not very um, how would you say this like, well, workable, not workable, but yeah, negotiable in a way, like you know you start if I'm upset week, you take it personal? Yeah you start. I thought you're gonna go another way with that, which let's not forget. You know what who the ringleader of

the Hot Boys exactly? And these guys it was not William, but he's he's in there you're not the ring. Yeah. Now he's a member member, but he's not the leader. Okay, but yeah, I mean that's the thing. You don't want those guys frustraate. You don't want to Antoine Woods and Daniel Rosses and all that. Then our website is frustrated if everyone you know, I mean, so we've got a

that's a big deal. Though. It's a big deal because because he meant so much to that locker room, and without him, this would not be the same, even with what happened last year, this whole hot boys thing or defense, it would just not be the same without him. I honestly think he's more valuable than just a player. He is more than just a defensive Okay, that that's being said. And this is what I hope he understands, and I think he does. And this we're just kind of speculating

on stuff we don't know a lot about. But you know, I I think that would you say that he is an elite pass rusher your Howard Asian makes no no, but it depends because that's all that's a classification in my opinion, Yes, yeah, I don't think. I don't think he's a little mac but I think that there's probably two or three guys that are above everybody else. Yeah, I don't. I don't think he is an elite pass rusher. I didn't say defensive man, I just meant pass rusher

off the edge. I don't know if he is. I think he's really really good. But the other things, the leadership, the run stopping ability, the stuff that he does as a player, he is. He is an valuable valuable place. Okay, so let me turn that. All I'm saying is is, don't I'd hate for him to play that game. I'm not. I'm holding now. I'm have surgery later. I'm missed six games because that changes. It might not change a lot for this year, but it's gonna change his next contract.

So when you ask that question, is he an elite pass rusher outside of Khalil Mack? Is there anybody better than him? Well, I mean von Miller is better than him. Okay, so I'm asking, I'm asking give me some names quantify this for him a little bit. I wouldn't say clown. He's better, but that's my opinion. I mean, I'm it's Frank Clark better. You know again, they don't do everything and again I just said pass rusher because that's what

you're paying for. But but what really, what I'm trying to say is what makes DeMarcus Laurens one of the five best defensive ends in the league is the total package, right, I get the total package of I'm gonna stop the run, I'm gonna be here, I'm gonna play through injury, which he did last year. I'm gonna be the leader. I'm gonna sign my tender right when it's I'm not gonna do with the guy. I'm gonna lead the right way too,

because that's the thing that's a big show. All I'm saying is is if you start going down that road of now I'm gonna do things kind of for me, then the overall package of what this guy is and what he brings to the locker room might change a little bit, you know what I'm saying. Getting outside the field in the locker room stuff, even just being on the field, even if he doesn't get to the quarterback and he's not recording those tacks, I mean, that opens

up opportunities for the other guys on the line. And that's why you've seen so much success in this line. I believe so, and he makes everyone there better and one of those guys is facing a suspension and Randy Gregory on the other side. So I don't know if that that I think that has a way of affecting this whole negotiation as well, because he probably looks at that as a little bit more leverage for himself as well. I think I think tight end has changed during the

last week to defensive end of before Wittin. I'm like, you better go get you tight end in this draft. Now it's like you don't have to go get one um defensive end. I think it's you better go get a defensive end in this draft. I really think you need you need to. You can't count on Gregory at all. You know this. You just that didn't change though, but you should have known that last year. Okay. And that's not about yeah, that's just where he is right now.

You can't trust the fact that it's not gonna I'm not finished, because all I'm saying is is Taco's not reliable. You can't count on him after two years. Durrance Armstrong did not show you enough his first year that you're like, Wow, what a place that guy. We're going with him. Doesn't mean he's not going to develop, but you know, and then he has potential. Yeah, yeah, I like, But I'm

just saying there's there's a spot there. And really, truth be told, if Tacco was playing really well and Gregor reed it wasn't facing any suspensions, and Durrance Armstrong did look pretty good and DeMarcus Lawrence was going to be fine and that badass defensive ends there in the third round. For some reason, it's still kind of you still do but not only that, but this goes back to what

you said about tight end as well. You take your pick at the toward the back end of the second round and use it on a defensive end pass rusher. The chances that that guy is going to be good enough to be better than guys that have been here for a year or more next year it's relatively small. So is there a position where that's not the case. No, And that's my but that's my point, and that's that's where I say, I don't know that you're going that makes it to where hey, we gotta ye, Well, he's

not gonna be better than Connor Williams. Well, that was a problem with Carna Williams. He needed a year right to kind of get there. But there have been other guards that we've seen that, you know, guarden safety because of how late they draft the best one. Yeah, sometimes you can get those guys to be a lot better early on. But I personally believe that you're kind of saying is the same thing as what you said about

tight end. I think you know, when you look at defensive end because of where you're drafting, I don't think you're gonna get somebody that's gonna be consequential player next year specifically. And if that's the case, then you look at it and you say, they may not beat out a Taco, they may not beat out of Doran's Armstrong next year. Those guys may be better. Those guys may be better at least for next year. And then you

see what happens beyond that. You know. Yeah, now you hit on Randy Gregory and I wanted just to get into that topic a little bit. David Irving against specially, I think the Cowboys have moved on. They they've shown how they are, you know, their feelings towards him. Bye Bye. Randy Gregory. On the other hand, it's a different story we know the history with him. He's now once again suspended. We don't know the exact time or any specific details on that, but according to Jerry Jones, they seem to

be very supportive and backing him up a lot. Do you guys have any issues with how the Cowboys are kind of endle in this situation as far as you know, I'm trying to find a nice way I put it, because I don't. I don't think anybody really understands what what all is happening, because you know, behind closed doors and everything that that he's being asked to do, and and and by the league, by the league and all

that so and then what what you know? And I know Brian can talk about this a little bit more too, but um, not to put you on the spot, but I mean being at the criminal, it's criminal what the league is asking me to do. It really is that's the way to jump into the show. I mean, lead with the lead. Right For a second, I thought you were calling him a criminal. It's criminal what the league is asking him to do. And I'll probably get fired for saying that, but it's true. And you know you're

not helping Randy Gregory. Randy Gregory. You're talking about the league, right, I'm talking about the league got you know, when him having to fly to do this, and fly to do that, and take ten tests to do this and do this, you know, I think Randy Gregory did his absolute best. Randy Gregory, though, has a sickness. Okay, you're not helping his sickness by taking him away from any type of help he can get. His family is in that locker room, his family is on that football field. His family is

his support staff. Is it a problem with the relapse, Yeah, it is, but he's not alone and relapse. He's not the only person that's ever relapsed. But what the league has asked him to do as a player to maintain his eligibility is criminal. Now, could this has been something that he didn't necessarily take some drugs and failed to test, but just maybe missed don't Well what we do know, Well, here's what we do, right, Yeah, here's what we do.

So maybe it's not to the point where he actually relapsing that, right, Yes, what we do know is according to the league policy that if you don't take a test that you're scheduled to take, it's like a test. Yeah, So although we may not know the exact circumstance for him in this situation, we know that that is a possibility. Yes,

so so yes, all those things are possibilities. Here When you say he is in trouble with the league again, he could have not taken a single drug at this point and it could have been something like I'm not saying one way or the other, but I'm just saying that is definitely a possible, which is maybe why Jason Garrett, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, they're not white much. Yeah, it's not black and white on this. Absolutely, you have to

control what you can control as a team. And like I just said that now going into the draft, and I know that you're you're not you know, you're a fifty eight, But that's my number one priority now is defensive end. I'm not saying you have to go at fifty eight, but my number one priority would be getting a defensive vent. And it's not just because of Gregory, It's because Taco hasn't done anything. I Dawrence. Please read

our report we wrote about him yesterday. Taco. Yeah we wrote about Tacco, right, Yeah, yeah, read about all that. That's kind of where I mean, he's that's the one guy that has been drafted that you kind of go, geez, what happened there? You know, and there's still time. There's still time. I mean, he started off I thought pretty well in training camp, get the Giants game week two, gets a sack, You're kind of like, oh, he's part

of the rotation. We go yeah, And then he misses five games because of a short older injury which he had fixed. You know. Now that's the big unknown that you know. And Nick's not wrong there. I would argue with him too, double dip this thing. Go defensive tackle, go defensive end. You know, if you saw what happened to this team in December in Indianapolis, in Los Angeles,

you guys were all there. I was sitting in a beautiful studio here at the Star, But that you saw what happened, you got beat up a little bit up front. You know, the human log was playing with a hurt You know, he was hurt, and he got his shoulder fixed and all that, but you need more help there. Him Collins, those guys they didn't have enough depth at that position. They got away with it all year because you had Layton vander Esh and you had Jalen Smith

playing inside. That helped them kind of to control the run a little bit, and then with a box player occasionally. But they've got to get better. Nick's not wrong in there. If it's defensive end, if it's defensive tackle, I have absolutely no problem. Rod Marinelli and them spend a lot of time at the combine with these guys. But what's Marinelli gonna do? Oh, you know, I'm gonna coach the orphans.

I kind of like the young guys here, kind of like you know, I love Rod Maryelly, but gosh, Rob, stand on the table and bang out for these guys to fight and get defensive line help for yourself. You're a great coach. Go out there and get yourself some help, make make make Kellen Moore uncomfortable having to argue for offensive players. That's that's your job right now. And you know better than anybody else. And I'll let Amber take this to break before your answer. But this draft seems

like it's so heavy on defensive tackle. There are gonna be guys available to us in the second and third round that are quality. Absolutely, And again, the Cowboys spent a lot of time you know, I know they spent an hour with this Zach Allen, who's a defensive end from Boston College, kind of a clone of Taller, clone of of a Tyrone Crawford. Guy could play the end,

can play tackle. You know, we watched him, We covered him at the Senior Bowl and played good as Actually it's a three technique, so looking for a guy with a little flexibility there. Now, Brian Browns was able to attend the comeline like every year and be there watching like a creeper. But of serving all these players, he's gonna tell it's not rolling out during this comby after the draft, I mean after the break. That's one of

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Brian brought us back to the break what was that. Wow, is that an awesome Do you use that as a lead in for something else you do? What was that? What did you not hear? No, I'm sorry, I had my headphone off. Rock Me Broughty, Brian brought us Okay, I do you know? I feel comfortable? This is very inappropriated. Whoa noe else? This is inappropriate? No one else is inappropriate? And make Falcon. You know what song that was? That was rock Me on the Day? Yeah from Falco? I

think is I think so? That might have been the only one. Yeah, tell me about inappropriateness. Inappropriateness and uncomfortable. The league is when you just make adjustments down south. You know, you can wet and stuff like that. You know, it's the off season. Good offseason is a time for trades, which you know sometimes you can make one in the middle of the year at Cooper, but you can also

make trades in the off season. Time to trade in your old tidy whitey underwear and get Tommy John Tommy John dot com Forward Slash Cowboys, get twenty percent off your first order Tommy John, the leader in underwear. First round pick. Well after that intro for Brian Broddess, I hope the report you got for us is good. What do you want to know? Tell me about some of the guys that stood out obviously according uh that would

be fitting for are the Cowboys and impossible prospect. Yeah, I think what I think what you have to do is you have to look at the you have to look at where you're at in the draft. Of course, you don't have a first round pick. Now again, Jerry Jones, we've seen, you know him, kind of do some magical things. What he might give up, you know, his fifty eight and his next year's one and trying to get back

in the back end of this thing. But I think you're looking at guys in this draft like a Jalen Ferguson, you know from Louisiana, tech a DeAndre Walker from Georgia. If you're talking about defensive ends, maybe the LJ. Callier from TCU. Those are the kinds of guys you're looking at. Anthony Nelson I mentioned Zach Allen. You know, these are guys that are all defensive ends that could potentially slide to you at fifty eight, all really good players. You're

not going to have a crack though. I think at a guy's like Montes Sweat. If we all know Montes Sweat Mississippi State, He's two hundred and sixty pounds ran you know four four one or four four two. It was incredible. But they there's probably there's probably six seven first round defensive ends in this draft. It'd be kind of a nice draft to have a first round pick

if you're looking for one of those top guys. But where the Cowboys are looking, there's going to be a second round guy with legitimate grades there that they're going to have an opportunity to grab. And I mentioned those guys again, call your and ferguson Walker, those types of guys. Alan was another one. Like every year we always end up coming up with two names that we're excited for, like hoping that the Cowboys grab. Could you give us

two of the names that you're excited for right now? Well, all the guys that I mentioned, I think would be would come in and you start thinking about, okay, well how would they compete? Would they immediately be part of the rotation? I think any one of those guys that I mentioned, like I said DeAndre Walker, I really liked him. He's more of a kind of he's a stand up plays like a stand up linebacker at Georgia, but you'll see him put his hand down and rush the pass.

He plays the run well. He can extend on people. Ferguson is a guy that's you know, six four, two hundred and sixty pounds. He could also you know, he's got linked to him. He's kind of like the guy that Rod Marinois would like. I'm you know, I mentioned also that Zach Allen that he could play that you could play the defensive inSpot probably play left defensive end really well for you and then kick inside and play

some of the three technique or the undertackle. Any one of those guys would be it would be you know, you're you're trying to find guys that could come in and rotate. You could maybe find a potential starter out of that. I think guys like a guy like Ferguson call your walker. I think those are your potential starters. With Alan, you know, uh kind of led better, another

guy from Georgia being like the backup type guys. If you're looking for rotational players, right, who's the I'm gonna flip it to the offensive side of the ball, even though I know defensive line is important, but number four for Georgia Harman, Yeah, Hardeman, Yeah, where's he? Where's he getting drafted? Well, you know, he's a guy that people have kind of talked about. There's Colt Beasley and I know, um, we've talked about Cole Beasley's. You had a tweet the

other day, I believe Aday Cole Beasley. Cole Beasley was talking about that that he had these like like that slot receivers growing trees. Don't growing trees or growing trees in this draft. Yeah, you know you're looking to talk about they're kind of growing. They're growing. It's kind of like it's you're kind of looking up at the tree and go, wow, Okay, I'll take the kid from South Carolina. I'll take that kid from Clemson. Hey, by the way,

where's that kid from Georgia. Where's he fit? You know? I mean that's kind of where I think when you talk about guys like Samuel from South Carolina. You know, Hardman is from Georgia. He's a guy that's a little bit of an undersized guy, so he'll he'll be very familiar with how he looks style. Cole Beasley, this guy's a legitimate track guy. He's a four three guy. You watch him play, he can actually make plays down the field. Well,

that's my question. How many of these guys that you're seeing us as is another guy that ran really well? Andy a Spell from UMass University of Massachusetts ran really well, really well at the come four three one was his time. He was he was tied for the fastest time at the combine. Uh, you know with with my guy from Ohio State, Paris Campbell. Yeah, when you start looking at

these guys, how many of these guys? And I even think about this in free agency because if it's the way, if it's my decision and I'm going with a veteran guy, I would look at a guy like Golden Tape before Basic mainly because he can play inside and outside. How many of those guys coming out of college that you look at a slot guys can also play outside? Because to me, that's the kind of guy. I think. The best guy that would be with Deebo Samuel from from

South Carolina. The name yes, and he's and and you watch him play and he clearly can make plays inside and out. I mean, I'll tell you guy, your guy, little Jordan Humphrey can be again. Let me tell you this, though, where do big tight ends play? Where the big tight ends or those athletic tight ends, where do they usually line him up in tight like off the ball or in the slot? Yeah? Does he run any slower than

one of these? Does he run slower? I mean he's a four he's a four seven five guy, Okay, but if you're four seven, yeah, he's He does play fascinating, That's what I'm saying. You watch his tape. Is he any worse off than what? When than lining jar went up outside or line line? He swam up outside Noah Brown Exactly. If you're gonna put a big guy in the slot, give me a big guy that can knows how to how to how to separate, how to catch the football, how to play past the sticks, how to

play vertical. Yeah, he's not your traditional Oh I could eat peanuts off the top of his head. Guy. This is a taller man. This is what you know. This is where you want it. This is where you want to sit there and look at you know, you know, don't don't get fooled. This is where we get in trouble. We fall in love with the measurables. We fall in love with he can't do this, he can't do this,

He can't you know, always two slow tous. If you watch Humphrey play and you watch every single Texas game and you live and die on plays, he makes you live and he makes a ton of him. So I think that if you know, there's it's not always the small little guy that plays inside, even though that's what we've grown accustomed to, kind of have an idea of where bigger players we've seen. It's a problem. Well, frankly, frankly, he was the best. He was actually the most consistent

playmaker they had on the team last year. Yeah, Colin Johnson was good, but he I love College. He wasn't as consistent as eld Yeah, I love Colin Johnson. I think one of the issues Beasley he actually benefited from over you know, his career here is the fact that Dez Bryant did not play in the slot. Because if Dez was really playing like and he got taken out of games at times, if Dez was really a complete, complete tight end like the Julio Jones and all those guys,

he lined them up all over the place. What I say, you said, tight end? I'm sorry, deep wide receiver. He would like, like they're gonna do with him Mark Cooper, you know, line him up, but when what when you do line up a guy in the slot, and then where does Beasley go off the field? Or he's not going to go to the outside. And that's why whoever you put in that spot and needs to be got inside or out so you have the flex. He'll never

say there's your golden Taide argument, right right. I think he'll never admit it, but I think he benefited from the fact that Dez was kind of limited and where he could play. So therefore he got to play on the slot a lot more because you got to get Cooper where you know, the best matchup, but you don't want to take that guy off the field. So yeah, yep, absolutely, Again, there's there's plenty of guys in this in this draft.

I mean, I mentioned Andy Isabella. You know, Penny Hart didn't go to the combine, but he's you know West, he's a Georgia state and you know you watch you watch him play. I mean, the guy makes a ton of plays. So don't feel like that you can't. And I again, I gave you little bit of guys and I gave you a really big guy. You know you

could find slot players. The fact that they're even tinkering with putting Cooper inside tells you all you need to know that they feel like, okay, they well, we'll do whatever we have to do to make sure we work outside. You got Jason Witten now too to catch underneath stuff. Yeah, I mean that's your hope. Yeah that helps. Yep. Well, after you're mentioning Cole Beastley and you brought up one of the tweets. Some of the things he tweeted was basically asking or saying to one of the fans, twenty

million guaranteed. And after hearing that and kind of seeing where the Cowboys are starting to transition into as far as the wide receiver position, is it fair to say that they have definitely moved on. No, well, no, not yet. Twenty million is what he's saying. That doesn't mean somebody out there is willing to pay him twenty million guaranteed. So it may all come back to the come back to a point where the Cowboys are like, Okay, this number we can do. We can't do, Tony, but this

is a number one. He's a mercenary he's going to go where over the highest money? Right if it's the Jets. You know, I heard a couple of teams, the Jets where a team I heard was mentioned as far as the destination for him. But you got to think about how I think he can find He can definitely find a team that will take him. Yeah, no, but how much is in You think there's a team out there's gonna pay him twenty million guarants. We thought about Tarret's

william see it happened here. We thought Tarret's Williams is gonna get paid. He really didn't get right, He really didn't. I mean time you think, oh, that guy's gonna get paid, he might come with a hat and hand deal. I think the cold Beast is looking at twenty million dollars. I think he's looking for a nine to ten million dollars signing bonus and then okay, make my salary one million dollars, and then okay, in the second year and make it eight million dollars more. You know, I think

that's what he's trying to do. I don't think he's trying to say, okay, give it to me all up. Well, he wants it all up front in the form of a signing bonus, he'll take less base to make this work. That's where somebody's gonna have to be creative. But that's my problem with it is if you're saying twenty million guaranteed. I look at Cole Beasily, if I'm somebody outside of this organization and I say, I don't really know what

I'm getting. Do I want to guarantee him even if we put it kind of mix it up like that over a couple of years. Do I want to guarantee this guy twenty million because I really don't know what I'm getting. This is gonna sound terrible. I would guarantee Earl Thomas twenty million dollars before I guarantee no doubt about it in the wild Cards to all, this is what the offense is going to look like, you know what what? And I think it factored in Jason Witten

coming back. I think that you know, they see what they what they think Kellen Moore is going to do and how he's going to be able to factor in here. But but would you say, I'm going to go off topic a little bit with Beasley still, but do you think he's a Dallas cowboy right now, Like it doesn't matter where he goes after this, like he will always be a Dallas Cowboy, or does he have still enough

years that he could finish. It depends on what he does, because if he goes somewhere and just has one blow up year, he's no longer just a Dallas cowboy, right. I just think some of these players, and Beasley's a good example, a fan favorite type of guy. And this isn't really my idea was brought to me yesterday, and it makes a lot of sense. These guys do need to realize that, Yeah, there may be a little bit more money over here right now, but in the course

of twenty years, thirty years, Dallas. I mean, look at some of these guys that are still doing stuff, still getting paid to do different things because they are Dallas Cowboys. You know, it doesn't just end when you're you're doing our pre postgame, right And so I'm just saying, I mean, that's that's the thing. There's a lot of opportunities that's true of being a Dallas a lifetime for a long term, long term. Yeah, And that's why I asked, is he's still he's been here? You know a few year. I

think he's a mercenary myself. Yeah, he's going for the money. You know, there's people will still remind you three kids, Yeah they're old babies, basically. Yeah, there were people that remind you that he quit on you though, no people remind you that he quit. You know that he had to be asked to come back, you know, and there's people that still haven't forgotten that, you know, he just he quit on the team. One of the guys that was really upset by that. I also wouldn't quit on

the team too. Yeah, that he I mean, I hate to say it, but he did. He was a little different though, I think. I mean, you had this conversation. Yeah, I think it's a little bit different, just because but they were they weren't sitting at they weren't sitting at training camp, and then all of a sudden he was like, I'm going home. Like that's different. True, but wait until

the draft. I mean, you know, okay, okay. But he also said in his in his little press conference or with a little statement, this team is really good and it has a chance to do something, and I want to be a part of it. He wasn't thinking that but back then he wasn't well, I love Jason, that was saying, right, you're right, that's a part of it. But I think no, no, no, no, I think that's actually and I said the same thing last week. If you remember when we have the show, I said the

same thing. I do believe though that I think, you know, at least part of this he still wants to At the time, he probably looked at that and said, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity to be able to go and call games on ESPN like it is. That's that is not a situation. If I pass it up now, I'll get back to it next year. Like so, I think it was one of those situations where he

probably said those things are all factors, absolutely right. But I think part of it also was I got this one time shot, man, I really just want to see I didn't see if this is something that maybe maybe and make the money. Maybe she saw it through, because I understand with what you're saying about this is a one time shot to go to Monday night foot ball and all that. But that's not what his goal was. His goal is always has been to do what went

a Super Bowl win, a Super Bowl. Yes, no, hold on, if he really thought that the football team and going into twenty eighteen was a foot a Super Bowl winning team, he wouldn't have worried about that shot other than the fact that woun other than the fact that if he were really really good at it, that could have been his next twenty twenty five years. Because you look at somebody like John Madden. John Madden made a career, He was a Hall of fame I mean he is a

Hall of Fame coach. He made a career out of broadcasting. So if Jason had an opportunity and the other one shot number one, right, Maddens the game is number one, right. But if he had a shot in one year to be able to jump to a top job in that profession, to see, man, am I good enough to maybe be that next John Madden? Then yeah, you gotta have to think about it. But your family you got to think.

But if you're saying that that would have happened if they would have been thirteen and three and they just missed out on the play on a Super Bowl and you're saying Monday Night football, he pushed in. He pushed in at thirteen and three, He backed that quarterback, no heet, but he still would have had to factor in. This is a once in a lifetime shot. You know, you

got a family. Sometimes you make decisions because you look at the long term for your family and you say, man, this really gives my family an opportunity to be set up for generations more than where I can have them right now. Like, I just think that that's a part of the place. I think the opportunity would have presented itself. Again, if I don't know about that something specific, I don't know about that, I gotta go. I gotta go check out. Yeah,

thank you for having me. I gotta I'm sorry, I had to go check out a three thirty today periscope. We'll dive into more of this stuff. So you might, well, they're basically done with the show. But but I was gonna say, there there are more opportunities I would have presented themselves. Yeah. Once he officially retired, and you know he realized that that was in his path fire, he

got a lot of criticism. Well, he learned. I think he learned really quickly that, or at least in that year, he learned that that may not be the thing that that will give him that twenty twenty five year career beyond football. It may now now he may be solely in the boat of I'm going to be a coach, because broadcast may not be the thing that and it may not even be about his success, because I think if he'd given it more time and worked at it.

It's one of the reasons why I thought it's hard to put him in that situation, being on the top one of the most high profile shows, rather than letting him kind of work his way up. I think if you'd had another year or two to really hone his skills, I think he could have actually gotten to be pretty good. But but and again, he's not leaving a football team to go to go you know, cover per Due and in Indiana, and true, that's exactly right. That is an

opportunity that will come back around. Yeah, yeah, that's I think that's pretty good. Honestly, he's not he's not polus yet. I think what really hurt him is is that we saw another guy jump right into the to the spotlight and he was phenomenal. Yeah, and it was like, oh, so, why isn't he phenomenal? And by the way, a guy that he's linked to guy. That's his boy, right, So in different personalities. You see Jason, you would not imagine him doing that kind of job and like talking like

that in front of the camera. It's like some people have the personality for it. Some others is just asn't commas natural, like for Tony Romeo, who Yeah, it has been successful so far. All right, well that is all the time we have for today. Thank you guys for joining us once again. We'll be back next Wednesday at eleven a m. With another show. Hopefully Dave will join Maybe I don't know. He's going pretty wild out there in New Orleans. We'll find out. But thank you so

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