Cowboys Break: Making Money Moves?

spring break. There's really only two weeks in the offseason where you like need to be around. You know, this is one of them. It's probably one of them. Yeah, it's okay. We're gonna make do without him. Amber Dave it might be better. Hey, that's possibility. I like that, jumps in his own chair and says, you know what, this could be better, And it could be. I mean, Derek's not that great. Let's go. You're always looking to upgrade your team in free agency, right, definitely, hundred sixty

five day year process. Right. Maybe talent acquisition maybe maybe. Derek said, well, the Cowboys aren't going to do anything anyway, so maybe I'll leave. Well, he's not wrong to this point. So so far, Cowboys are a little or taking a slower approach. I guess. I actually that isn't really true. They really they haven't done anything, havn't agreed to anything yet. But I still think they're being somewhat active. They just

haven't they haven't hit yet. They were interested in Sammy Watkins, right. I heard reports from our paper friends yea, that they were in on that, and then the money got kind of silly and they were like it were good smallis whenever it drops a little bit sixteen million for a guy with thirty nine Yeah, yeah, I think I think the Cowboys had to cut off. I mean I do.

I do think they were in play there. I think they wanted around fifteen million per year, and I don't think the guarantee as high as what he got in Kansas City. And I mean, and that's might be what happens here with the Cowboys, is that. Yeah, we like him for this. They probably like Hitchens for six million a year. Yeah, and well, you know, it's funny and I get it. I completely get why a Cowboys fan would be frustrated with the way the Cowboys do free agency.

But I mean I can't say you weren't prepared for it, assuming you pay attention. I mean, this is the this is the third or fourth year in a row that this has been their strategy. And we've been talking about how this was going to be their strategy since you know, we started doing offseason shows in mid January. So I mean you might not like it, but you shouldn't be

surprised by what's going on. You can tell me a year leading up, and even when that week hits, I'm still like, my friends are having a party and I wasn't invited. So that's it. You're right. I have to walk by the bar that they're having the party yet every hour or so and see, Oh, Jaguar is getting better. Packers pretty much? Yeah, I hear you. I think the one question is are they getting better? Are they really getting better? Go back and look at last year, go

back look the year before. These these guys that sign that sound good, but do they really help them? I mean I don't know. I mean some of them do. I mean no, look at the Eagles. Congratulations the Eagles. Yes, But I'm just saying there's a lot of Jags too. Yeah, there's like, I mean, it does work if you're smart about it, it does work. But like who helped them? Campbell for the Jacks, Campbell, Bury, Church Aju. Who else did they bring in? Nobody in the offensive side? Right?

Not really? I mean those those three guys really were I mean Campbell helped them. Campbell for sure, I mean I didn't watch him play enough. I mean, I'm sure he played well, had five picks, but I think lockdown the passing game, go look at go look at around the league though, all these all these guys, I mean, I would say, a year from now, are you gonna be like, did Paul Richardson help the Redskins? No? And that's the vast majority of the stuff that has happened

this week is pretty stupid in my opinion. Like, I'm there's maybe four deals out of the like sixty that have happened where I'm just like, that looks like a good, cost effective decision. The vast majority of it not so much.

And that's you know, I mean, one of the first things that happened yesterday morning, like six o'clock in the morning, Anthony Hitchens signed for fifty million dollars which I think the world of Anthony Hitchins, and I know the Cowboys do too, But I don't know fifty million dollars I need. I need more than what he provides for fifty million dollars. Obviously, we'll talk about other players that are still on this team for the Cowboys, but let's let's go with Hitchens

right now. Hitchens signs or is expected to sign today with the Chiefs. Amber, you can't sign everybody. We've talked about that last week. Where do you where do you think this is as far as Hitchens leaving? You concerned with that one or there? Well, I mean, we all need we expect that this was going to happen, that we wouldn't have Hitchens back on the team. And obviously he's a big guy on the Cowboy's defense, and they're gonna they already need a linebacker. Now they're in more

of a need to have another linebacker. So, yes, that's tough to see happen. But at the same time, you know, we listen to fans complain about what is happening in free agency, the Cowboys not making moves. We seem like you mentioned the guys that we're free agent last year or were contracted as free agents, were a failure to the Cowboys didn't work out. But I have a question for you guys if you were the Cowboys, I mean, would you be handling free agency the same way that

they're doing it right now? I don't know if how else would you manage this. They're the only team in the league that signed a player for that much money. I mean, they haven't done anything, but who else has actually signed a player for seventeen million per season? And the fact that people say, well that doesn't really count, it technically counts onto the cap. That's a big deal the Cowboys have done. And whether it's sexy or not because no one expected him to leave or that doesn't matter,

Like that's something that they had to do. They did, and now fans are like, well, they're not doing anything. They had to do that move. I think I completely agree with you, And I said last night, you know, if they hadn't put that tag onto Marcus Lawrence, Adam Schefter and Ian Rappaport would have tweeted out at five to thirty yesterday morning that he had agreed to a handshake deal with whoever sixty million and guarantees and what I get the counterpoints of that, which is that you're

not technically making your team better. He was already he was already on this team that finished nine and seven. But I mean it's I mean, fourteen and a half sacks. You can't let that walk out the door, and you can't just discount their willingness to pay him that money to keep him on the team. Having said that, I do get the counter argument to answer your question, I don't. I don't hate what they've done over the last couple of years, which is be really quiet. I don't know

if they had much of a choice. Their cap sheet was so ugly for such a long time, after all the restructures and all pushing the money forward. I don't hate what they've done. I understand it. I do hate closing one of the spouts of talent acquisition because you have the draft, you have free agency, right, you have which stout afted guys. Oh you're talking about just not free agency, Yeah, just not acquiring talent through that avenue.

And I hate that, but I understand it. I understand what they've had to do when the restructures and bad money getting off of it, and now I felt like this year might be the year when you're clear of some of that bad money and you have a chance to make some kind of splash to be I mean again, I got horseshoes only counting horse yet almost only counts and horse shoes and handgarnade. Sorry it's early man pass rush and that too. I always said that pass rush

also counts. They were willing to make a splash with Sammy Watkins apparently. I mean, if they were willing to pay him eight figures, that would have been it would have been amazing, just amazingly surprising. It got out of hand, And honestly, I don't fault them for not wanting to pay that guy sixteen million dollars, but that that's the open market, and that's what happens when you've got a

billion dollars in combining. So the will is there, right, let's I mean acquire somebody in which well, now that shifts us to the elephant in the room as well, Sammy Watkins. They wanted Sammy Watkins, not for that price he got, but pretty close. Now you look at other receivers that are signing Alan Robinson, what fourteen million a year? Yeah, fourteen average three for forty two and Paul Richardson ten eight eight year five for forty What has that guy? Don? Wait?

Is that? Is that how many catches he's had last year? A year? I thought you were talking about how many catches here? I mean seriously though, And so I said that yesterday. I was like, this guy's got half the career accomplishments of Terrence Williams and signed for more than double what Terrence got in the open market. And somebody said, well, he didn't have a chance in Seattle. They drafted him forty fifth overall have a chance. They drafted him in

the top fifty. That that deal, maybe more than anything else that happened yesterday, really blew me away. So now let's let's get really fun here and try to jump into the shoes of Dez Bryant. Geordy gout Cut. Ah, yes, Seorty as well. Right, So you're Dez Bryant and you're making what the average of sixteen million a year, but I mean you're not making it now, but that's what

your contract is. You're gonna take a pay cut. Well, I know it's a tough I mean, you meant to run in that room and say Hey, let's look at percentage of cap. Because the cap this year is one seventy seven. When you signed it was one forty. Right, that's what the front office is gonna say, And they're gonna go, Okay, well, you're actually eight percent of the cap.

These guys are eight percent of the cap. I know the money's different, but whenever you're getting that check, Yeah, you walk into the booth and you're getting that check every week, and it looks different, it doesn't matter to you. But to Nick's point, I mean, in light of everything that happened yesterday, Dez's deal doesn't look that crazy anymore. What did Mike Evans get eighty something five for like

eighty something like that? I don't have it off with the cap at one seventy seven and Mike Evans only getting five for eighty. I think i'd point to that deal. I'd go, are you as good as that guy right now? Well? No, I mean no, he's not. He's not as good as as Mike Evans is right now. But I think, what is he better than Alan Robinson? Yeah? I mean not about who's younger and has more upside? Like is he a better player? Is he a better player than Sammy Watkins.

But those guys have question marks. Yeah, Sammy Watkins just lack of production overall. I thin injuries. I mean, he's had a dozen of them. It's it's fashion, I mean. But let's also throw this out. We've been told, everyone's kind of been reported that they wanted Sammy Watkins. They were gonna be prepared to do that deal for fifteen a year. You can't do that deal with Dez on the team. I don't think absolutely not. So that doesn't mean now that they're gonna cut him. You and I

talked about this before the show. That doesn't mean Wells was going to get cut. He's definitely gonna get cut. Maybe they look at it now like we wanted him, Maybe we have another guy in mind. If that doesn't happen, then Dez still falls here and maybe maybe you know, they keep him. I think. I mean, okay, they took a swing for the fence on a guy. Des Brian would not be here if Sammy Watkins was. There's no way.

So now I think it just depends on how they feel about how hard it is to live without Des because I mean, there's there's guys you can bring in to fill that role. I mean, Bryce Butler is one who's familiar with this team. I'm I don't have any off the top of my head, but I'm sure there's a handful of guys that fit that description from that are on the open market. Absolutely, Okay, there you go. Yeah, I mean, but that better next year if Jordy who

Neilson's their number one? And that's my point is that's going to be up to them to look at those options and way um and say, are we better off just eating this des deal for another year, keeping them here and drafting a guy, or do we get better by bringing in somebody else for cheaper And I can't answer that question, And I think the only way we'll know is what they decide to do over the next

few weeks. And the one thing I am I'm even more confident now than I ever was that they're going to spend a pretty valuable asset on a receiver in the draft. I just don't know if it's gonna be with Dez on the team or not. You know, throughout this whole process, I've been going back and forth where I see, no way does it's not gonna be here? And then I say, oh, you know what, this actually may seem very possible. Back and forth, back and forth.

Des posted a picture on Instagram of him I saw you twittering about it, Dave, and it's not a big deal. He It was basically a picture of him and a Starr emoji plus ada equals. He posts that in the middle of the opening day of free agency, and then he goes on Twitter and he's like, stopped reading into my exactly exactly, stop reading into I'm not gonna stop reading into your posts. Look at me, look at me. Don't pay attention to you have I don't even know

if you know exactly. No, you're right, like, please pay attention to me, but don't read into what I'm saying. Like so, no, I'm not gonna not pay attention to what you say, Das. I'm sorry. I mean that picture made me go all the way back to okay, maybe he's staying, Like he's feeling confident that maybe he is staying, because why else would you post something like that at

that time? I think I think I would want to get cut if I was this, you would want to get I don't disagree with me, because let's let's be honest. He's making so much a year, but he's not making that that money that he got and he's I'm not saying it's all spent, but I mean, you could get cut, sign a monster deal with someone else, get that money tomorrow and pretty pretty much start over and you're gonna get more than what you're doing now. And they want

him to take less. I think he's looking to get more. Ryan Grant got something like he got seven plus. I mean he was He's been the Redskins fifth receiver for a couple of years. Like he's I'm not saying he's a bad player, but like I was again floored when I saw that. If Ryan Grant can't get twenty six million, you know who makes seven plus for the Cowboys, Shaun Lee?

Yeah exactly. Oh yeah. I mean well, for that matter, Anthony Hitchens, right is now making quite a bit more than Shaun Lee is, which is I mean, that's that's that's the nature of how many quarterbacks are pissed now. They're not pissed, but they're looking at it like seriously, a full guaranteed. I know we're bouncing around here, but that's what free agency is. We're bouncing around now. We're on to Kirk Cousins and are they Are they pissed or are they pumped? Because if if Kirk Cousins can

demand that, then I think certainly be able. Didn't USh try to do that in his last contract, because I throw my pin at you, Dave Um Russell Wilson. I think he shaid Rush. I was like, no, Russia. Yeah, Cooper Rush wants a guarantee that's in a couple of years when he's done leading the Cowboys. But I think we've been moving towards that for quarterbacks, and that might be the only position where it's this is the money,

it's all guaranteed. If you want me to play here long term, I'm a top five quarterback or maybe Kirk Cousins top ten, it's guaranteed. That's how the deal's working out. And I think we've been moving towards that, And I'm I wish all the money was guaranteed. I wish the numbers were what it was. You know, it's so funny Romo people that hated Romo. They had one argument and it was always playoffs. But you know, nobody cares about that anymore. Like that's not a big deal about playoffs.

It's just so funny how he wasn't very good because he couldn't get his team over here. But now it's like Kirk Cousins, like you've won no playoff games, like caress guarantee every money. I mean, that might be the case right now. But the team they've got up there in Minneapolis, right we'll find out this year. Well if I mean, if I think it's a bad move, I don't. I don't think that's a good move for Minnesota because they just showed that they can win with a rudypoot

quarterback and they don't know. I don't know if you need to go twenty five million guaranteed. And I don't know if Cousins is really that good. I mean, I've never really liked it. We can't beat the Cowboys, so I don't know why he's that good. But I'm just saying, if they have the money, I guess that's that's fine. But they do have a great defense. If a good coach, really good coach, and they have a great home field advantage, I mean, they're in a good situation. I just don't

know if they needed Kurt Cousins. I I don't know, Man, I guess if they got the money for it. I think you can win with an elite defense and adequate defense. But that's true, a lot more stuff has to go your way, like if you if you have a top tier quarterback, you're in every game. And I mean, I'm not saying he's the best he's got right there. I think Kirk Cousins is really good and I We're gonna see how good he is, because that was my point.

I mean, with every they they don't have a weakness that I can really think of, and they play in that ridiculous stadium, it should be good enough to get a couple home games. Like if they don't, if they aren't one of the top two or three teams in the league next year, then everybody's gonna go. And they get their first round running back back. That's what I mean.

They know they're they're loaded. It's unbelievable. I mean, I do think he's a better quarterback than case Keenum And yeah, that guy just continues to steal money to Ben Bradford, the best one hundred and thirty four million dollars career earning. That's my hero. Why didn't I play quarterback? He is to wrap put a bow on the Kirk Cousins thing.

It's it's a move when you're one move away, but that one move away is your quarterback and you just invested so much money, like they're locked into this roster. If this roster does not get you NFC championship on the CUSP every single year, like you're getting fired in like two years, I would and will gonna draft Will Hernandez. They might you think you'll be there at thirty Maybe I don't know. It's I mean, because that's the one position where you don't see a ton of great greatness

coming out of that team. Why are we talking Vikings here? But whatever, it's totally possible. I don't know Kings, but I would argue signing Cousins gives you a chance to be competitive once you when you have to let your defenders walk because like Anthony Barr Kendricks to Neil Hunter, like all these guys, like they're not gonna be able to pay them all. That's the problem the Cowboys are doing. And it's not to switch to another team, but it's

the exact problem Seattle went through. Like remember when Seattle was sitting here with this cheap quarterback, and they had all these great players. Then they signed Russell Wilson, which and then now that they're sitting there, everyone there, thin everywhere, but they have a quarterback who can keep them in any game. I mean that's kind of the it's just the way it goes. All Right, Well, you don't sign Anthony Hitchins for that money long term exactly. You find

the next Anthony Hitchens exactly. And they, to be fair to the Cowboys, they actually tried that. The next year. They drafted another fourth round linebacker from the Big Ten. That's very athletic, that can and he hasn't panned out. He hasn't developed yet. He has he makes headlines for the wrong reasons. So I got to work on that with Damian Wilson. But we talked about linebacker and how

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limitations apply so you can be love for details. Back to the break, we are back in its free agency. There's so much happening with other teams, but three o'clock comes around maybe the Cowboys are going to jump into this thing a little bit more. We just talked in the first segment about they did have some interest with wide receiver Sammy Watkins, they have some interest with some other guys. I think they'll be proud of them if they make a big splash that no one knows about

until it happens. That'd be fun. That would be no leaks, no agent, not gonna hold my breath. That would have been one. I mean there wasn't. Oh yeah, no, Sammy never well, the domino effect with that. We kind of heard some rumblings in the early part of the week that like, don't be surprised if they do something out of character. I would and I so I'm thinking, like, okay, like, but I would have never guessed Sammy Watkins. They can

it's a weird one. All this can go away. And if you just make some trades with Seattle, see that's splashy going well, going back to Amber's question, that's the I don't care that they haven't done anything this week, but I can go back to last week, and you know, we talk about the Eagles. It's not really like they're out here signing all these gaudy free agents. It's just the type of move they make. I mean, last year they traded for Timmy Jernegan. Uh, they signed Alshon Jeffrey

to a small deal. This year, you know, they traded Tory Smith for Brad Worley. They traded for Day Um not the Eagles. But there was nothing small about the Alshon Jeffrey deal. Was it like one year, nine ten million dollars. I mean, it wasn't paying Sammy Watkins fifteen. Um, they didn't. They did. People are so mad about that. He's like forty years old. Um, um, what you call it? Michael Bennett for a fifth round pick? You see, the Browns sent Danny Shelton and a fifth rounder to New

England for a third rounder. That's the type of stuff that when I see it, I'm like, yeah, hey, do that maybe maybe you know, spend small resources to improve your team in a noticeable way. I mean, Danny Shelton's only a one technique. He's not gonna get six sacks for this team, but he would be a massive upgrade over the one techniques on this roster. And you have ten draft picks. I mean, that's that's the type of stuff that I see, and I think the cow Boys

could and should be doing this type of stuff. They just don't want to do what you did last year. But hit on those guys, yeah, I mean hit on Nolan Carroll, hit on Stephen Pierre, say his name, Hi, Hi, Yeah, sorry, but you're gone here. Well he was already gone when you started working right anyway, I mean yeah, never met him. So it was a nice trifecta right there. We got

three guys. One guy's gonna get a d UI before he plays at any game and not even gonna play at all, or he's gonna play like a game and a half and he's done. Another guy's just going to decide to retire like a couple of games in. And then another player, another players already got a two game suspension on that's hanging over him, and then he's gonna have some issues. And that's the strategy. The strategy really

doesn't bother me. It got Byron Bell. He gotta be a lot better about finding guys that can actually contribute to Can I ask one question about Hitchins leaving before we move him. You're on the show. You don't have to ask if you're just making sure I'm the guest here, so sum but you said you might be better, and I thought you said so Hitchings is he's gone right, he's chief four for whatever it is, somewhere five for forty five, forty five damn okay. Um. Have they committed

to taking a linebacker in the first two rounds? Now? Is that what they just did to themselves? I think first three for sure, top hundred picks. I think, I don't. I don't know unless I think. I mean, I talked to Steven Jones about this of the combine. We don't know what's going to happen with Kyle wilbur. I guess theoretically he could be back, but he played like nine percent of snaps on defense last year. So I think Stephen Jones he came, he said, we need two linebackers.

We've got two that are out of contract. We're gonna need to I think it just seems really obvious to me that you sign a guy for cheap and free agency and think justin Durant think you know that type of thing, and then I think you've got a draft one in the first three rounds just because we saw what can happen when your linebackers aren't healthy last year.

This week we did on the website We've You and I went on Tuesday and Brian and uh Rob picked four guys yesterday Dave, who are some of the players that you said, And we said, this was a wish list, this isn't but but we were pretty I mean, we weren't crazy about it. We were trying to be Three of my four are still available realistic. Feel good about that?

Do you remember them? Because I don't really remember. I had Derek That's I mean, that would be a guy that I mean, it makes He's from Waco, he played at Texas, he's in the you know, he's winding his career down. The fact that he still can play as amazing. He's thirty five. Thirty five, Um, you know, four time All Pro. He's not he's not gonna play at an All Pro level, but he's good in coverage. He can

play Will and Mike. He's a veteran guy. I can't imagine that he would be that expensive to bring in. I mean, I'm not going to try to ballpark it. But he's thirty five. The Cowboys have had success with that type of player in the last I would say ten years. A couple of times. I mean, Keith Brooking was on the downside of his but he still came came back, played well. Durant was one of them, not as old as as Derek Johnson is. But Zach Thomas came in for a year and did a pretty good

job in the strategy that I have mapped out. I only need him for a year. Yeah, because because I'm drafting, let's just say Josie Jewel at pick fifty to be the Mico, the third linebacker of the future behind Jalen and Lee. But if Jalen Smith is sitting here in the linebacker room with Sean Lee and Derek Johnson, right, He's got to get better. He's got to get better up here. I mean every linebacker would, Damian Wilson would and should. So I think that that would help your room.

And I need him ideally, I only need him to play like twenty to thirty percent of the snaps. I mean, ideally, Jalen Smith is ready to be what they hope he can, but you can't bank on that going into the season without a backup plan. Question about those linebackers is how many linebackers can you have that don't contribute a lot

on special teams. Yeah, it's true, you know. And that's one question you would have with Derek Johnson, like we're bringing this guy in, he's going to play a certain amount on defense, but then he's not going to really play special teams. I say that that's well, that's where you got ten picks. That's where my rookie would come in. Rookies can play special teams for sure. I mean even if they drafted a linebacker at fifty, I'd still make

him play special teams. But to answer your question, and three rounds or whatever, but nineteen overall, like nineteen is not a good spot for a linebacker in this year. Right, it seems like there's two that are gonna go slider. Well, it's it depends. Like I actually had that conversation on Twitter yesterday, there's two. There's two studs that are gonna ta Tremaine Edmunds and Roquan Smith are the two studs that I don't think it's realistic to hope for them there.

And then there's two others. Rashaun Evans out of Alabama as a guy that gets talked about a lot who probably fits into that range. And then this kid out of Boise State, Layton vander Esch, which people are all over the board on him. Some people think he's a top twenty pick. Some people think he's a late second round pick. Hundred forty tackles last year. Yeah, so there are options, but it's not It's not a slam dunkin's either. Yeah, it's a slide or a jump for sure. Yeah. Yeah.

So that's why nineteen just doesn't seem like a good Nineteen isn't a great spot for most of what they need. That's talk about will Hernandez. I mean they needed a guard, and talk about these guards so much because you could probably well, Quentin Nelson, he's he's you could probably get the second best guard in the draft at nineteen, or you could potentially get the best receiver in the draft at nineteen. Other than that, the board doesn't really line up.

I think Ridley is he the best hammer or more whichever one you prefer, or I'm probably I don't take your pick. I don't think more than one receiver is getting picked before like pick fifty. I'll give you some credit here. He and I know that you're doing the draft show, but you for like the last month you've been saying, hey, watch my guy DJ Moore from Maryland, who was like a third round pick or something like that projected at that point, my safety Irwin James, he's

he's gonna go to the Combine. He's gonna kill it up there, and he's not even gonna be in the equation for nineteen. Now, you look at all these other draft experts after the combine and they tell you, watch out for DJ Moore, watch out for Derwin James. So good job on those two. I'll allow I'll allow myself to Dj Moore or backpad. But like anybody who follows the draft knew that Derwin was. I mean, he's a freak, but at that point he was sitting there at I've

seen mocks with Seattle, I've seen Dallas at nineteen. Now. That's well, that's what makes the draft process so fun. Like you, I mean, it's all up on a wall and it looks one way in January and it looks a completely different way and the way of all that stuff, and then someone goes, man, I got out that quarterback right now. Yeah, and then people trade up and everything

just goes out the window. Ten ten years ago on this show was probably me and Derek and be like, all right, well, uh, I was happy Easter to you. It was a good um. You know what, the draft is coming up in like two weeks, we should start talking about the Cowboys are picking where let's talk about that. You know, who are some guys now in ten years from now, it's going to be like, all right, happy

Halloween everyone. All right, let's get where. We're about eight and a half months from the draft daily draft showing October daily getting close to that. Well, I mean that's kind of how the team's flus. What shifted? What did Brian say today to you? I was in the middle of some other crap, dealing with some other stuff, but I heard over here about I hate free agency and I hate the games of Like, yeah, what do you like? Then? He he just wants to draft, wants the draft everything,

And that's Brian. Brian would like hate the like you know, I'm like, oh, get Danny Shelton. He would hate that. He's just like slimmy draft. Yeah, fine, guys, don't trade any of my picks. Fine, guys, see I'm the Yeah, if I'm sitting here in the third round and I'm like, I can get I mean, the value of players at

that point is so low. Everyone wants the draft picks, and I guess I'm just still remember Randy Moss going to the Patriots for a fourth Yeah, y'all haven't been doing the draft show for too long though, because Brian will say one word and he and Dane just had these like, oh, one word conversations back and forth. Or Brian's like the guy and Dang's like, yeah, the guy, and he's like yeah. It's like, what are y'all talking about. It's a conscious effort on my partists like they're like, wait, hey,

such on the same page. You're speaking another language. Remember that there's other people here. The runner all right, yeah, let's shift gears to the quarterback. Um got some money. I'm talking about the Cowboys quarterback. Yeah he got some money. Yeah he got some money. Congratulations. Good yea wake up on a random Wednesday in March, and you got four hundred thousand extra dollars explaining that never happened to me. It's it's something. It's add incentive incentive pay. Like basically,

if you if you outplay you're you're slotting. Then the league rewards you. So, I mean a fourth round pick is not expected to play as many snaps as Dak Prescott, and so they reward him a little bit extra on his salary because it's sort of like it's almost unconstitutional how little Dak is being paid or his importance in the team. And Anthony Brown got a paid a two because he hit like seventy percent of the snaps and

he's a sixth round pick. Last year, Anthony Hitchins was was set to make six fifty and he made and he ended up getting one point eight. JJ Wilcox a couple years ago had the same thing because he was on the field for X amounts in three years, Sir and Rick would be the one that was getting So what's the pattern here? A third, fourth, fifth, sixth rounds?

He's middle rounds. If you if you outperform your draft slot by a noticeable margin, then then the league basically doubled his money, didn't he's making yeah something like that. So I don't know how that works with like taxation, Like I'm sure he would be March fourteenth, but yeah, no, that's awesome here all the sponsors that he gets, Yeah, he gets way good for him. He's fine, He's fine. Like it's not he's not making his value, but like he's okay, Yeah, he's okay. This team goes eight and

eight next year, is he okay? No? See, that's this is the issue that I think we have with with Zack. It depends. For sure, I was a very blanket statement who he could be playing great? He gets he gets compared a lot to Russell Wilson, and that could be scary because how many great wide receivers are wanting to go to Seattle. Yeah, and Sammy Watkins had a decision to make. Now he took a little bit more money.

Jimmy Graham, that's great, the only one, and then he left but underrated, saying maybe maybe Russell Wilson doesn't make these receivers that much better. Maybe that That's what I'm kind of worried about with with Dak. I mean, what if if I'm around the league and I'm liking I'll get does his worst year is happening when when he him and Dak, maybe I need to go to a place where the guy's gonna clearly make me better. And Dak's had a position in his career where he's trying

to figure out himself out. And I don't think he's making other receivers better just yet. That's that's what I kind of worry about. I wonder if it's got around the league, it'll start trickling around, like, you know what, why go over here? This guy's had more success some of these receivers. Maybe you are trending down. I mean, Paul, start adjusting everything around him, and you replaced this because they don't work well together, and you get any tied in.

That's you know, more effective WHOA WHOA into years in two or three years, I'm saying, down the road, down the road. You move everything around him, and he's the one constant in the passing game. Still hasn't changed. Everything's Dak friendly, right, and you're still not the offense you think you should be. Yeah, exactly think, Hey, that's saying Dak friendly. I cannot stand here, thank you because I do too. Yeah, I hate it, doesn't I hate it when it was Romo friendly. It gets just to just

make your team better. About that. I mean, I've said this a half dozen times at this point. Not the only person who's got more writing on twenty eighteen than Dak is Jason Garrett. I mean, because Dak's not playing for his job because he's under contract for at least two more years. But I mean, if if he if he's not good, if he steps further back, or if the offense is in a rut, and if they don't win games, then you're going into twenty nineteen not sure

about your future quarterback. I mean, I think if they don't make the playoffs next year, and then obviously you got a new head coach and then they pretty much start over. But it depends on how the games go down. But I mean I don't think that they would they would look at it and go a week that's definitely

our guy. Well, that's a tough evaluation just because I think that based on everything that we've seen so far and the things we talked about about coaching and Jason Garrett, we've seen that it goes way beyond the players that are on the field. So you begin to question, Okay, is it really the player or is it the way

they're being coached? And I know there were some obviously coaching changes, but it's still under you know, Scott Linehan and Jason Garrett and blah blah blah, and now is it really that is the root of the problem coming from there or is it the players? I think you look around it. There's been great quarterbacks. I'm a quarterback

drafted really high that had really great rookie seasons. Their second season they kind of struggled somewhat and then they snowball to the point where they can't get it flipped around. And now now Robert Griffin's not in the league, Now Colin Kaepernick's not in the league. It could be other reasons involved there. But if they were really really good players,

they would be. But I would I will say this, and I'm thinking back to your point about Russ, which is, you know, Russ has never needed those guys, because that's not I mean, I'm sure he'd prefer them, but that's not the way Seattle played anyway. I mean, the first four years he was there, it was all based around the run. I mean, Marshawn Lynch made it move and he made good decisions. He got away from pressure and

made plays to his receivers. I mean what he had Baldwin curse, they traded for Harvin, They didn't bring Jimmy Graham on to a way late, and so I think about let's just assume Dak is actually really good, because I think he is. I'm not really worried about his long term future. But Colby's is a free agent after this season. You can one way or another. We're already talking about shedding Dez and his contract. That's not a long term issue one way or the other. Next year,

it's a lot easier to get off there, exactly. So what's it really all about. It's all about your running game, your one hundred and fifty billion dollar offensive line. You're running back and your quarterbacks ability to play a role in that. And you know, I'm not worried about their ability to plug in young, inexpensive receivers who can do the job better. I think the way this team's constructed, even if Dad continues to take steps forward, I don't see a reason why you need to be investing tens

of millions and dollars in receiver for the time being. Anyway, you know what, I'm surprised has not really been mentioned a whole lot. But it's always about Dez and what they do there. But what if he's not the receiver that needs to be released? What if that's not the contract I mean, let's think about it. Who can replace what Dez has done on this team. I don't know if there is a guy that can do that. I've been saying this for a while. Look at Cole Beasley.

Is there anybody that can replace what cold be easy? We just drafted one. I mean, I mean, he's not there yet, but he Oh, he's got to get on the field to have a chance. I know, but I mean there was Cole sitting there. I mean, that's that's the only one of those three receiver deals that they can get off of and not have any dead money, nothing, nothing.

And you drafted a guy in the fourth round last year that you apparently liked enough to get him touches consistently, whether special teams or offense, and they obviously tried to take that part away. I'm not saying it's a it's a great idea. I'm just saying, maybe you can restructure things a little bit from that standpoint. I don't disagree with anything you're saying. I just don't think Cole Beasley is not commanding enough money, nor is he like hurting.

He's not hurting the team. It's just like that idea, that's the reason. Nope. The reason we talk about death so much is because you see that sixteen point fil five million chargs just hanging over everything. Whereas I mean, it doesn't drastically alter anything if Beasley's gone. So that's I just I don't know. I mean he obviously William doesn't it. Yeah, I mean number it saves you some money. But again, like it's it's not just like this ah

like this beam of cap space. And he was the one guy that seemed to probably garner the most attention from from other But what did we do after they started focusing on Cole Beasley? Like we didn't adjust and make plays off that. So I put a cheaper guys. I don't know why you would even bring him up to the conversation when you look out, I get point. He's not the first person to suggests that. But it's like you look at the group of wide receivers and we know how Cole has helped this team, and the

point was the coverage he was getting. You know, he was very limited in that way. And why is that? Because he is good and he is one of those Jason Witten and him is one of those guys that Dad could easily go to. But he's also limited, Like you said limited, he's limited and the things he can do, he can only play a certain position. And I think you would have to change the structure of your offense

and how you're doing things if he wasn't there. All I'm saying and is is like his contract doesn't hurt you. I don't think you would cut him. I mean, he seems like that would be a tradable type type situation for sure, if you wanted to go that. My thought is just like, put someone better somewhere else and leave him there. He and great, great point, someone better the goal the goal? Right, Yeah, we're in we just fast

forward a year. Well, we are in a we are in a weird sort of limbo with that, with almost the entire passing game really with the role he fulfills. That's someone on a rookie contract fills that role. But alrty catch a year guy. That's a guy in a rookie contract, Like that's what you expect from them, not from your guy you just re up for. I mean four years, he had seventy something in sixteen. I mean he can yeah more. Well, yeah, I haven't seen him do more recently. I I just so Daz and Terrence's

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That was great, It's fantastic, wonderful. You're a spokesperson. There you go, I got real. I got called out. Um well, no, Dave al Shan's deal with Philly was for fourteen million, so idency I undersold the worth of that. But still a one year prove it deal like that's nowhere near as gross to me is committing three to five years, you know with whatever I looked at Uparantinas, y'all said that I looked it up because the number fourteen was always in my head with Alison, I get, I get

Jeffrey and Pryor confused probably for less. There's a reason why you said that it was a one year he got nine million last year. They put a lot of other years on there that that he could he could get that like with a option it all averages to fourteen. Looks pretty for fourteen. If he would have sucked, that could have cut him. It would have been a one

year nine million. So you're you're kind of right about that, kind of like the Henry Melton deal that we did here a few years ago exactly, and the deals that Haynesworth got with And there's a lot of that going on right now where Sherman Richard Sherman's deal in San Francisco. Like at the end of the day, it's like one year, nine million dollars unless he doesn't hit all of his stuff.

Let's talk about that one real quick, because over the weekend, cowboys were getting crucified at least through my Twitter timeline about why they didn't go that route. Just remember there they're his position coaches here, Chris Richard, he's here, he knows what kind of player he is. That doesn't mean that they didn't like him, but coming off an Achilles injury, like, well, I mean with that kind of money, I don't know. Thanks,

I'm here. I'm here for you if you want to wind to me about almost anything, like I'll at least listen to it. But Richard Sherman's almost thirty. He blew out as Achilles, and he's gonna want a sizeable deal to come here. And I'm not saying the Cowboys are loaded with all pro corners, but the whole point of what they did last year is they've got four to five solid defensive backs who were playing for pennies on the dollar. Like you're you're trying to be efficient here,

and that's just a completely inefficient signing. You invested heavily. Yeah, Jordan cheated of your woods, Like, let those guys turn into something like the Saints did last year and Anthony that matter. Yeah, Saints played all their rookies when they were young last year. They reaped the benefits of it

because those guys got experienced, they were good. If if they are good enough to hold those jobs, then you've got a starting secondary that you're paying the same amount of money that Rman is making off of one year of his deal. I mean, that's the whole point. You're trying to find talent for cheap. Let's talk Scandrick real quick. Scandrick apparently has has let it be known that he wants to get traded. Release right. I mean, I'm sorry,

release trade whatever he wants to go to another team. No, no, he doesn't want to get traded. You're right. He wants to get the same thing with Dez. He wants to get another contract. Um bet Dez would like another contract. I bet, I bet you know Zeke would like maybe another guy to kind of help him. I mean, that's cool that he requested that. I don't think the Cowboys will or should do anything there. Thanks for your input, Orlando. I think not. I think he'll will do what we

want to do. I think he'll get his wish at some point. But when people stop talking about him, that's when he puts something into get people start talking. He acts like a former player, and he's not a former player yet, but he acts like that. Like that, those guys will just throw out some outlandish headline just because it's really more like, don't forget about me. I was a good player once, and he does. He's like he wants to get involved with the free agency stuff. If

I'm the Cowboys, I'd wait two weeks. I think he'll get his wish. But yeah, I don't see any reason why you have to do it right now. He's seen the writing on the wall, right, Yeah, they've invested so much in the other cornerbacks that are around all it last year. Yeah, he'd probably been banking on this for a year. He probably saw this happening when I think you're trying to replace him. Okay, so let's say he's not on this team, you still need a veteran cornerback

or something. I mean, I don't. I don't like just going with those two rookies plus Anthony Brown plus whatever Byron Jones is going to be. Uh, I don't think nobody. How many more do you want? I mean, I think I'm fine with it. Yeah, I think so you're probably only going to carry five on a team, right, I mean, and don't I'm again not draft one, but you don't feel comfortable enough with got Duke Thomas hanging around two?

I mean, he's still here. I'm fine with it. I think a safety needs to be and the safety needs to be added to the mix one way or the other. But I don't think you don't think. I don't think so. Man, if if it didn't cheat on the outside, Xavier playing slot, Byron Jones playing slot, and then you've got Jeff Heath and whoever you want to work at Byron and Cheeto

on the outside, Jordan in the slot. Brown is your number four either way, and then Woods can do a little bit of everything, well, at least in like probably not outside, but Anthony Brown still there. I mean, that's that's the one position I really liked their dipths if it fell to where you know, we talk about how

the board doesn't line up with their needs. If if Mike Hughes at a UCF is there at nineteen and he's the best guy on your board, okay, but I mean, look at it is this gigantic cornerback is the least of my word, Josh Jackson, where's that? Where's he going? Yeah? That area too, probably late first round, first or at the second. I don't think cornerback should never ever, it should never be the least of your concerns because that's the position that gets you beat that. I mean that

I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying going get another Nolan Carroll because that bombed. I'm just saying get somebody else in. There's some some more veterans. So the fact of maybe not having our Lando Scandrick bag troubles you. Somebody that can say, Hey, like we just got off the bus and Green Bay, where's the locker room? I don't know. I haven't been here. I haven't been two years.

I don't know anything. I mean, not just that, but like I've played this quarterback before, I've played this guy before, Scandrick, You're gonna lose a lot with terms of a smart cornerback that kind of knows the league. He understands a lot of concepts. He's seen a lot. Say what you want about him being grumpy and Oscar the grounds or whatever. He's a smart player. He reminds me smart guy like smart guy. He reminds me a lot of ways of Richard Sherman. He's not as loud as as him, but

he is very smart. I could see where Scandrick could be his own agent, just like Sherman. He understands the concept of things. I don't want people to mistake us saying we don't have to replace him for saying he has no value and he's not a good player. Yeah, he's a good player. I could just see some value in the room because I don't think Byron. I think they did that last year. I think that's they saw this coming and they took a sledgehammer after it. Added

three rookies. Yeah, and you know, retain They're keeping Byron. Obviously, they're keeping Jeff Heath. They're they're deep. Who can never have you can never have enough corners. But it's not something I'm losing sleep about. I think I would look at the potential I can't move about to say this about signing and free agency, which would really be resigning Mo Claiborne. Okay, anythink but why I love to have another Tiger in the room. But but I mean I

don't I don't know. Man didn't do anything for you, not really? How much? Yeah, it's always the question, Yeah, how much discount deal to come? Hey, if it's a give it to me. Yeah. And if I told you the Cowboys would move up the sixth overall pick. I'm the best defensive player and he wouldn't do anything four years. I'm not watching at thirty for thirty. You know it's

really a five for five. It's a short. I'm not alluding to who you think I'm alluding to, but just what if they I mean, bring in a veteran safety instead. I mean, it doesn't have to be a cornerback. Et come home. No, it's not who I'm talking about what you're saying talking about. It. Just told you he'd signed Kenny Vacaro. He could sign anybody. Just add. I mean, they need a safety, whether it's the draft or free agency, they need one. I agree, I agree with. Then I

go veteran safety there before I go veteran corner. I do think it's a it's a bigger need. I just I just somebody in the room. I think they'll probably do a Nolan Carroll type deal something like that. Just have some veteran. I was so upset a couple of years ago whenever they didn't go after Eric Wettle whatever. He got free, and I'm like, I want that type of duty. He doesn't have to play every snap. He's a Nickels safety guy, and he balled out for ball.

Then you got here and you said, he looked up at our social media coordinator and you're like, damn, they did get Eric good point shifted jobs. Yeah, yeah, it's five minutes left. The one thing the Cowboys have done other than tag to Marcus, which for the end, did we figure out how they got there? I don't. I don't think they needed to get there. I think that

was miscellaneously or erroneously reported. Not. That's why we don't talk about this um salary cap a lot, because I think a lot of fans treat it like they're at a basketball game and there's a scoreboard and says that's exactly what they have left. You can look at contracts forty four different ways, probably more than that, and there might be a figure that says they were for twelve

thousand dollars. Yeah, that was not and it might have been plugged in with a two point nine million, one year tender for David Irving, which is what he got. So second round tender two point nine to one million dollars. He will explain the process of how what happens from here. Their team could sign him, say somebody wants him, anybody nine ers won him. Let's forty nine ers can take that number and make him an offer sheet. It famously

happened a couple of years ago with c Anderson. Think Miami tried to sign him to a three year, eighteen million dollar deal. Denver said, nope, we want you, which is ironic because they're talking about cutting him right now. What happens in free agency. But so they matched that, or actually I think they beat it out, but they gave him a better deal. So theoretically, David Irving could play this year on a one year, two point nine million dollars deal if nobody offers him anything. The Cowboys

don't have to give him any another dime. But the forty nine ers will say, come in, they want to go four years sixteen. Okay, okay, four year sixteen. The Cowboys says, well match that. If they don't, they will get a second round pick from the forty nine ers this year. This year's which I don't think the forty nine ers actually have one because they traded it to

New England for Garoppolo. But witch it up to the let's let him go right if someone comes in with a second round pick, there is only there is only one explanation. There's only one explanation. For why they would if you're giving him a second round tender, it's because you don't actually want him that much. You'd be fine. If nobody makes an offer, great, you got him back if they I mean, you know, I thought about it in this terms, like if you somebody was like, oh,

do you want to ensure this purchase? You got a new car, you want to ensure this purchase. I mean, if you really want to ensure it, wouldn't you buy the top of the line everything, one hundred thousand miles and no matter what happens to it, you're good. But if you're really like, yeah, you're not really thinking about keeping it for a long time, You're like, now we'll take the bargain insurance plan and you know, maybe I'm not covered for flood, but I'm covered for theft, you know,

like that type of stuff. So if they're not willing to give him the best possible tender, it means they don't really want him. They'd kind of like they'd be okay with him being on the team, but they would take that second round pick in a heartbeat. That's I think that's the only way you could read. That's a lot of people in like so late second round pick for David Irving. Are you going no, I know what this guy can do. He's a splash player. He makes big plays, he just rubs stuff, he raises hell in

the backfield. Or are you like, yeah, I'll take that cheap contract for that second round pick and hope I can find a guy. It's it's running the point almost it's six to one half a dozen to the other. I really I hate the idea of letting go of a guy who can put up seven sacks in eight games. I hate. I mean, we've been whining about the pass rush on this team the whole time I've watched the soup. I can change your mind in three minutes. All right, go for it. We have two but right that's why, Okay,

go no, I'll I need three. Oh, I hear you, I hear I mean you think about it, though, I mean, if it's a top if it's as if it's a second round pick, so it's gonna be a top seventy pick. I mean you shouldn't. Regardless of the cowboys woes in the second round, you should be able to hope that you can find that really good player. That pick also moves you into the to the spot of I mean you you can take that and sit there with somebody at thirteen or fourteen and go, I'm using this second

round pick that I got for Irving. I'm moving up here and oh you know what would happen use if someone gives us a second round pick. We're sitting there Week six and we're like, hey, we can't get any sex. I wish I had someone that could disrupt thee the passing game, but nine used you use that extra second rounder, you use him to trade up and get Derwin James. He's got six picks, but six but you now that you don't have David Irving, where's your defensive tackle situation?

Look like? No? I know, I mean it won't look great. I think Crawford going to move back there. The ideal scenario that I'm hoping for in the Brian Price, Sorry

sorry Price, how did we bury the leader there? I think the ideal way for all this to work out is if every other team in the league is aware of the problems with David Irving that prevent the Cowboys from loving him, and if hope the ideal scenario is that nobody tries to sign him long term, and he plays out this year on a two point nine million

dollar contract. If he balls out, then you've got a question to answer next year, and you either sign him long term, which I doubt happens, or you let him go and you get a third or fourth round compick for him, or he struggles or has issues again next year, and then you've got the leverage when it comes time to negotiate a contract. I think without the suspension, people

would get pretty interested. Say he played just yeah, played last year, yeah, and misstime because just an injury, not a suspension, right, I think people come sniffing around him. I ate that late second. I would be on him like he's a great player. I mean, he's a great player, and there are a litany of reasons why you might not want to trust him with a sizeable contract. Yeah, no, I agree, I agree, But maybe one year type of thing or exactly what they did. Yeah, I'll be interested

to see. I will. I won't be surprised if somebody makes him a handsome offer, and I won't be surprised if nobody touches him and he plays out this year on a one year deal, which I wouldn't be surprised if that's what he wants, because if he goes out and plays, you know, sixteen games and has ten sacks as a d tackle, he's gonna get ye hey, next year.

What I will be surprised with Irving is if he gets an offer sheet from another team in the Cowboys matchet that was surprised, would surprise they'll take the second. This is a case of like the CBA working perfectly because I feel like that's right on the nose second for him. Two point nine is played riding the nose for him. I'm like, good job, guys, Yeah, we figured this one out. For that one, give me pick fifty

five and we'll qull it you all right. Well, earlier in the when we first started, you said we were going to get better. There was one area will be better. Definitely got better. Tommy John Reid was better, the man better. Every single day we got better. There. No, it's good Mike, thanks for joining us. Course sure for our day. If an Amber, I'm nick what Derek will be back next week's state. It's been replaced Dallas Cowboys dot Com for all your free agent needs. This has been a production

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