Cowboys Break: Looking Big Picture After 2 Games

episode number forty two. Welcome to another edition of The Break live in the SWBC Morty Studios at the Stall. We've got a great show lined up for you guys today, a lot to talk about. It to a Tuesday. So we'll do a little bit of a big picture look around the league where the Cowboys ranking, some some statistical categories, some interesting things they're both good and bad. And then a little later in the show, we're gonna actually get into evaluating each of the positions for the Cowboys and

talk about our confidence meter at each position. Let these guys tell us what they think that after two games, how they're feeling about each of these positions. Groups. All right, so we're gonna do that. It should be fun show. Let's let's jump right in. Let's first hit some news. Bryce Butler, his name's all over the news today and has been over the news yesterday and today with the possibility that the Cowboys will be signing him. What do you guys know at this point, Well, Dallas Cowboys dot

Com doesn't have anything yet. ESPN doesn't have anything. Uh, you know, the four Worth Star Telegram, Dallas Mooring News. I don't think anybody's got anything official but the Duffington Post. But the Duffington Post. Bryce Butler himself announced that um release, posted a picture of himself in this Cowboys uniform, said it's a done deal. God is good. You can always count on Bryce to hype himself up, man. So I mean,

you know, it's fun. It's funny. I really the mechanations of this, you know, like officially, obviously they you can clear a roster spot in two seconds, but officially, like a foster spot is not open for him, and the team would probably prefer to do it a different way. But Bryce Butler is gonna Bryce Butler, so kind of let us all know that he's back. So okay, let's assume we're a second. Let's assume for a second, that Bryce's report is accurate. Let's assume that he got the

right the right report. Um, what what kind of role could he play on this team? What are you expecting his role to be? I mean, they've got a bunch of receivers that are kind of the same type of guy. Is he the same type of guy that middle mid level kind of wide receiver. I think what you're seeing though, is that there's an effort to get more speed on this team, and u Tavon Austin obviously in the acquisition there, and then Deontay Thompson. He's not only on the team,

but he's having a bigger role in the offense. You're seeing him make some plays, makes some catches, and then you know to add Bryce Butler. That's what he does. He extends the the the offense a little bit more so to answer your question, you know, basically what you're saying is who's who's he taking? Whose spot is he taking on the field? Um or roll or role player? Yeah,

I mean right now that they'll have seven receivers. I think you know, we've talked about this a little bit and not to get into it, but you know, there may not be seven receivers on this team comes Sunday, so we'll see what happens there. I think you kind of know who, but just by judging who's playing and see kind of who could be an odd man out however way that is. But I think that they want to get more vertical in the passing game, and I think Bryce is a good guy to do it. I

also think and no way to. I think he's just gonna step in here and like play the same amount of snaps that like Dez would have. But he's probably the closest thing to like a real ex body type that you have here. Now. I mean we always said that about Alan Hearns, but I think Bryce is a I don't like using the word thick, but like he's thicker and more physical I think than Alan Hern's probably and we I mean, they don't really do the back shoulder ball anymore, but he's a guy that can do

that type of stuff. So he's the closest thing to like a protocol prototypical like outside the numbers receiver among these guys, I believe among the faster guys for sure. Yeah. Well, well Noah Brown can't play right now. He's on IR so yeah, he Um, you know, if he had enough catches to qualify, he would have ranked I think third in the NFL last year in in average per catch Bryce at around nineteen nineteen point six or something. I get it. You have to do it over of course,

you know. Um, I think the guy in Detroit led the league last year, and Marvin Jones he's still in Detroit, Yeah, Marvin Jones. But yeah, but I mean it's that, Um, he's got some big playability and he's done it here. I mean a couple times in that Arizona game. I remember, that's probably one of the reasons they signed him. And he had a really a couple of nice catches in there. Dakka was rolling right and and throws it up. He's a big target, like you said, and he's easier to see.

And I think he'll he'll be good in whatever role that they use him, and I think it'll be a down field threat. It was obviously a reason why the Cowboys didn't sign him back when he was a free agent. What's changed. I mean, it's a situation where right now they just like they want to get another body in here, if somebody that maybe knows the offense you know, or is a situation where just the money didn't where he thought higher of himself at that point. Well, he always

thinks higher of himself. I mean, he told me before the Arizona preseason game that he would be starting in Arizona. But even though he's going to play tonight and play into the third quarter of it, you were talking about that preseason game and he didn't start and didn't make the team, and so he always sad. He just to say, yes, Skip Bayless, I'm gonna come on your show and I'm gonna talk about Dez and all this stuff. I mean, I think it was just like, all right, there's no

room for him here. But what's changed, Well, this summer changed, and what they thought they could get out of Terrence Williams hasn't happened. He got hurt, he wasn't in the offseason. He did not have a good offseason off the field. Obviously. I don't think that's over yet. And so now Terrence Williams isn't providing anything, you know, for there. So there's one thing Alan Hearns. I don't know if has been

lighting the world on fire. I don't know if they're super excited about him and Gallop is still developing, So I just think that there's a need for a veteran type of guy. Yeah, I don't disagree with any of that. Um, even with all that being true, Like I don't, I don't hate this signing. And Bryce definitely flashed some big play potential. But Cowboys clearly didn't view him as a priority last year, and I think the year before that they only even brought him back because they didn't think

they could get Terrence back. He was their insurance policy, which I don't know that was a bad one, that it is what it is, But what was a bad one? Terrence or him Terence? But see the thing about it was you can say now that it was bad, and I'm saying it, but I know we were all surprised at the contract and how low it was exactly to be able to get him at the numbers that they got him, I don't think was necessarily a bad Brian brought us says it all the time, and he was

right on this one. You don't fall in love with your team and don't fall in love with the fact that Terrence Williams is so great and you got to get him with thirty one. Other teams were like, we're not paying him anywhere close to that, and we don't want to sign him at all, and they did, and so I mean, and now they're kind of stuck with it for now. Yeah what I was gonna say, I mean, yeah, whatever, I'll just own it. I'd rather go big and give up a fifth round pick for Josh Gordon than do

this and all, honestly, yeah I would. And I get that it might blow up in your face. But like Bryce Butler caught forty three balls in three seasons here, Like I think his career high was nineteen or twenty. You know, I mean, the this isn't gonna boom. I really doubt it's gonna boom. He's probably he's gonna be Bryce Butler, like he's gonna be He'll get some snaps, he'll make some big plays. And I don't know what

Josh Gordon's gonna do. And maybe that would blow up in their face, but it's a fifth round pick, a guy that has at least the potential to be a real difference maker and a guy that can clean out the box, like a guy that I really think defenses will probably key on more than any other receiver on this team. And I know you know, Randy Gregory's here, David Irving will be here in a couple of weeks. The receiver's room is young, and I know that you know you got a rookie and Michael Gallup who you

probably want good influences around. But it is a very low cost and a very higher reward. And you know, I'm not going to kill him too much for doing it, because, like I said, I get it, there's a lot of concerns there. But if you're going to sign a guy who isn't expensive and has a chance of failing, I'd rather go big than just bring back the guy that you didn't like last year. Yeah, I get your point.

And I that's when I'm kind of struggling with because I agree with you from that standpoint that that's one of those risks is like, well, the upside is so big that you really kind of want to see if you want to take that chance, like it might be worth taking the chance. I also look at it from the other that this is a guy that hasn't consistently been on the field for two years, three three years, which and so the likelihood that at this point now he's got all of a sudden get it all right

and be able to consistently be on the field. For you is probably you're you're probably shooting in the dark, right, I mean, so, so who knows whether he'll he'll be able to even play in New England there? Don't you

think something happened. Don't you think something happened in Cleveland where I mean, the word on the street is that he misled the front office and strained his hamstring shooting a commercial on a Friday night when he wasn't supposed to be, which to me and and I don't know everything and clear like that, dude's got so much baggage I get. And that's why I'm not gonna sit here and shout fire and brimstone that I think this is

just the dumbest decision ever. There's plenty of reasons not to do this, And honestly, I mean, it reminds me of the Greg Hardy situation where you took a gamble. Not only did it not really pay off, but it was a bad influence on a lot of the guys in there. But I think the issues that I know about marijuana smoking, I think that's it's easier to manage than than very extreme and bad legal issues. In my opinion, UM, I feel like the Randy Gregory situation is, you know,

affecting that move. You know, let's not say that the Cowboys may maybe Cleveland didn't want to draft them or trade them to anywhere else. I maybe that's what they want, Maybe they have the best offer. Maybe the Cowboys did send the same type of thing. But I just feel like, you know, the Cowboys haven't I mean, Randy Gregory's not out of the out of the woods here. I mean, they never won all the time, it never will be,

so you're already dealing with that. I think it's questionable to say that the Cowboys have you know, I mean, yes, they've helped him, but he's again it's it's a it's a process here. I don't just don't know if adding Josh Gordon helps with that. And another of those two of them, you're right about David Irving. Really three of them, three guys like that, and I mean great upside. I

just feel like Cleveland's been so patient with this. Something happened to the point where they're just like, we gotta wash our hands at this. So I wouldn't be surprised if you might be right. I don't know. That's I always say these things can't be black and white. Like I can say that I would have maybe I can say that I would have done it. And I'm a little disappointed that the Cowboys didn't do it, But I certainly understand the logic. I don't think that they're stupid

for not doing it. There's plenty of reasons not to do it, but I looked at it. I'm going to steal a line from a Redskins reporter actually, which this is crazy. Josh Gordon's big year, sixteen hundred yards all that good stuff was the same year that Robert Griffin was coming back from his acl there it's ancient history. Having said that, in his two seasons that he has been a part of since then, he's played five games in each of them, averaged around eighteen yards per catch

in each of them. And I did the math had he played sixteen games, the math on his season is about a thousand yards, about sixty seventy catches in a thousand yards sixteen games. So it is a huge gamble that you can count on him for sixteen games. But in the small sample sizes, he was still putting up better numbers than most of the guys in this locker room.

Do you know what I hear out of all that, and it really saddened me is that essentially this guy had the potential to maybe be absolute best to ever

do it absolutely basically just threw it away. And that's that's sad to me, because you know, it's rare that anybody gets stat level of talent, you know, which I remember him at Baylor when I was really following that team, and I remember him as a young guy that that they were like, the coaches were like, you know, if we can just get him the Saturday, we just get him to the games, you know, he could be He's unbelievable.

He doesn't really know any of the plays, but of course at Baylor, in that system, you don't really need to because you're seeing a lot of those receivers that are doing great things. They're not even in the leg I mean they cut Corey Coleman in the first round pick to make room for him. Yeah, so we're not even talking about Corey Coleman. Like the Cowboys have no no interest. He doesn't learn the offense. I mean, Terrence,

give Terrence credit. He actually he might be other than Josh Gordon, but he might might be the best one. I mean, kendall Right has been pretty good in the league, right, I'd say consistently kindall Right has probably been the best because he's been at least consistent, you know. I mean, Kay Cannon, you know, put up great numbers, you know. But but my point is is that he was Josh Gordon so freakishly talented, and he came into people saw him one hard knocked. You know, he was like, I

don't I know these plays? I know these plays, and he caught a great touchdown against Pittsburgh, and I mean, but I just feel like there's they know more than anything, and I feel like something maybe coming down the road. You might be right and well, to bring it back full circle, Bryce is a much safer signing and he's probably gonna make much safer contributions to the team. Like DJ. I mean, he can already d I'll be shocked if his numbers this go around are drastically better than the

first two, which that's fine. He's he will play a role in the offense. He will make some plays that get you excited, but you know, I don't think Bryce Butler is going to finish with a thousand yards for this team. All right, we're gonna check our first break. When we come back, We're gonna talk a little bit about where the cawboy any ranking around the league, and some interesting categories pass offense, pass defense, a lot of

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show as well. If you guys have any pressing things you want to talk to us about, any questions, any comments, you can call us numbers eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven. Again it is eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven. We'll take your calls that way. Let's talk a little bit about how the Cowboys are ranking around the league. I went to look up a few stats just to see where the Cowboys rank, and it seems very apparent. I don't

know that it's something we don't already know. But defense league rank really high and a lot of categories. Offensively they rank really low and a lot of categories very similar to what we've already seen on the field. And again, I think we could have all predicted this. But let me just throw some of these numbers out there, and I want to get your reaction. Passing offense, Cowboys right now are thirtieth in the league, only generating one hundred

and forty nine yards per game through the air. Rushing offense eleventh in the league. Not horrible, but certainly not where you would think they would be with the rushing attack that they have, only getting one hundred and sixteen yards per game through the first two games yards and offensively, they're thirtieth in the league again, only two hundred and sixty five yards per game. Scoring offense twenty ninth in

the league, only getting fourteen points per game. You look at those offensive numbers, are you any more concerned than you were before seeing where they rank relative to other teams in the NFL. I'm gonna say no, I'm just I'm gonna sound like a grumpy old man, because like I didn't need to hear the rank kings to know it was bad. I mean, you finish with less than two hundred passing yards in the NFL two weeks in

a row, you're gonna be near the bottom. Because this is a past happy league, So I'm not surprised to hear that. I would have guessed that they were somewhere between twenty five and thirty two. It's not good, but I'm not anymore. I don't feel any differently about it having heard that. Yeah, and also, you know they go hand in hand because the defensive stats, I don't know, you haven't named those yet, but I'm sure that they're

really good. And sometimes I remember there was a few years back where this team wasn't very good at all, but their defense was good, and therefore, you know, they weren't giving a lot of you know, they were getting some some short fields. Now that really hasn't happened a

lot this year. But when your defense is good and you're getting off the field and you know your offense doesn't have a long ways to go, and then if they're not going anywhere with it, you know what I mean, they're only going fifteen twenty yards and getting a field goal, So sometimes those those can kind of affect each other. Rowing two games to this, but I agree with Dave. We don't need stats to know the defense playing well.

The offense isn't. They're not sustaining drives there. I mean, yeah, so in the NFL, three three hundred is what you're looking for to feel good about the offense, right, total yards, Yeah, I mean three hundred is what you're looking for to start to feel good. And then three thirties a good day. Three fifties a really good day. If you're pushing four hundreds, you did awesome. They had two thirty two in week one and two fifty five in week two. I mean,

that's that's bad. That's like I said, there's no way around it. Um And even obviously those things go hand in hand, but the running game hasn't been what we've been used to. I mean, even in this game, what what was the final tally? One thirty eight? One one thirty eight's pretty good, But for what this team has done, you see Zeke with one thirty and then another thirty on top of that, Like this team pushes one fifty one sixty one eighty and they haven't even doing that

partially because the passing game hasn't been there. So, so are you guys at all concerned about the running game, because I think we kind of all expected coming into this season and maybe the passing offense would not be as good as maybe what you saw a few years

ago because they had so much transition. There were so many new parts in new places, and you weren't necessarily convinced that the coordinator would know how to use all the right pieces, especially at the beginning of the season, or you'd all can start to know what the running part of the offense. I mean, yeah, I think so. It's not they're not overpowering people, and I think there's

a lot of reasons for it. I think it's the fact that they you know, you don't have to I mean, teams don't have to get beat up like that because they're just not gonna get you know, they don't feel like they're gonna get beaten over the top. You gotta keep doing that with Tavon Austin, you gotta keep doing it now with Deonte, if Bryce is in here, you

gotta do that. That's got to be the way that they They're not their intermmediate passing game is not going to be there because that's not a strength, and they don't have a tied end that could help and really do anything. I think it tied end that could they could turn around, get open after twelve and fifteen yards, get up the field. They missed that they really do.

I mean, you can say what you want about Jason Witten not being what he was, but they don't have a guy that can really Swayne hasn't showed it yet. I'm not saying he can't do it, but he hasn't shown it yet, and they haven't shown that part of the offense. I think that tight end game is really

affecting a lot of things with this offense. I feel pretty good all things considered, because the passing game was not great the other night, Like it was serviceable, but again, like if you don't even throw for two hundred yards in the NFL, that's not anything anybody should be proud of. But they ran for one thirty eight. Zeke averaged four point six, and they averaged five point five as a team,

and that's against you know, we talked all last week. No, the Giant's front seven isn't as good as it has been in recent years. Olivier Vernon wasn't there, but we talked. You know, Landon Collins was down in the box. They were going to try to put the game in Dax hands and they couldn't one hundred percent do it. I mean, the Cowboys ran for fifty yards on that final drive the game, the one that put the game away, and like I said, they average five and a half yards

per carry. So if you can do that against the Giants, I feel pretty good that you can do it against all but a handful of teams, and I mean the Panthers being one of them. I mean, you talk, you got all Pro defensive tackles and a guy like Luke Keekley. You can definitely take it away. But I think there's way more teams in the league that can't than those

that can. It's interesting you bring that up because I did go and look at the teams that Cowboys have to play, and let's talk about it from this standpoint. If you look at the rushed game, for example, of the eleven teams that Cowboys have left on their regular season schedule, four of those teams two of those teams they have to play twice, but four of those teams have a top ten rush defense right now. Now, of

course we've only had two games. A lot of that's dictated about who you play this early in the season, but Philadelphia's first, Tampa Bay second, Indianapolis's ninth, Washington is tenth. So when you start talking about defenses that you think could give you problems against your running attack, it remains to be seen. But at least for right now, four of those teams that you have to play in the final eleven teams you play have top ten defenses against

the run. Yeah, I think I've never really been a big fan of looking at numbers like this this early and no offense to that, but just because one of the reasons why, you know, let's say, people can say, well, the Rams haven't really played any good offenses yet, like the Raiders and the and the Cardinals. Well, one of the reasons they're not a good offense is because they

played the Rams. You know, the Rams put them in that boat, you know, And it's kind of like when they say this early in the year, you haven't beat the team with a winning record, Well, it's because we beat you, you know that. That's one of the reasons. So I think it's still early for that, um. But but we can kind of, you know, use the eye test on this stuff, and we we kind of can

see who's good and who isn't. And and I don't I think it's it's a little bit of reason to be concerned that they can't do what they want all the time, you know, but if they can throw them I think throwing the ball deeper like that, I mean, they made an effort to do it. And I've never understood Garrett saying, well, you know it's in the offense. We've tried call it. I mean, get it blocked. You know, your guys can block, your receiver can run, and your

quarterback can throw throw it. I just don't understand why you can't ever throw it. And they did. They did. They just threw it some. They caught one a couple, didn't, you know. And then later in the game you saw Zeke had a little bit more openings. I think I think there's something to that. It's not that hard really throw it, as Randy Moss would say, just throw it. I will say this though, and I agree with you,

from the standpoint of the numbers this early. The one thing that does concern me just a bit though, and we'll keep an eye on this as the season progresses. But we talked about that rush defense number. When you look at that past the past defenses that you'll have to face right now, there's six of the eleven teams that you have to play that have top ten past defense. It is Washington at number one, It's New York at number two you've already face. It's Detroit at number four,

Caroline at seven, Jacksonville at nine. They'll probably have finished the season at one. I would guess at Atlanta at ten. I get it. Why, here's the point. Here's the point I'll make about this. The one interesting thing about me. There are a couple teams on here that have the kind of offenses where you have to throw the ball to keep up. I think Detroit has an offense like that where you have to score and you're gonna have to pass the ball in order to keep up. I

think Atlanta's like that. So you would think that these are games whether their opponents are also throwing the ball a lot and probably have to throw up pretty well. Right, let me let me I'm just let me just be the I'm gonna stick with the old man. Thing here because I'm I don't really, I don't buy any of this crap until after like five or six weeks, I think, like two games with such a small sample size. Who the Redskins open to the season against Arizona like they

are a second who? I mean, of course you, I hope you had a good pass defense against them. And I'm not saying there. I'm not saying no, no, no, Fortunately, I'm not saying Buffalo. Unfortunately, I am not saying they're not good. That they might be the best secondary in the history of the game. But this is not a

big enough second sample size for me to care. Really, the only thing I know for sure, because I've seen it happen ten times in my career covering the Cowboys, is the Eagles are going to be a problem as long as Fletcher Cox is there. Like they're gonna be a problem. They've shut down the Cowboys running game year after year. They did it when DeMarco was here, They've done it when Zeke was here. I know that's going

to be a deal. Other than that, I need more time because but but you know what, what was it last year? Somebody somebody on the Cowboys schedule last year was super proud of their run defense. I don't remember who it was, but it was like all we talked about going into the game and they just it was embarrassing. Like two years ago, it happened back to back games at Green Bay. Maybe that's what oh, Cincinnati, and it was like the yeah, maybe that's what I'm thinking of,

like the Packers were. It was like a historic low, like nobody's ever given a fewer rushing yards to start a see thirty four years. Yeah, and they in the first drive. It was embarrassing. So and again, some of these trends are going to prove to be true. That's not my point. It's just that we don't know enough yet for me to sit here and and act like these stats are gospel. All I know right now is that the passing game's gotta get a lot better for

this team to be balanced enough to win games. I think we're seeing that just how you know, good Travis Frederick you know has been for this team in this offense. Um, I don't think Looney's been a problem, not really, no, but he hasn't been the best, right and I think that that's you know, does he give up a lot

of sacks. No, but is he pushing the guy off the ball and doing the things and open up this You know, he's not hurting you, but I don't know how much he's helping you the run game, Yeah, because where you see and the calls and we just just just seeing just recognizing, Okay, the linebackers here, we're gonna shift this thing here. I don't know. And now no, Zach is out actually helping with some of the calls as well, but that's it's better for the center to

do it. Um. I don't know if Travis is going to come back. I really don't. And if he does, I don't. I don't know if he'll be the same. I don't not not this year. I know, was it Shlais Who's yeah March. He said it took him a while to get out though, for a year, and then it took him a while. And maybe it's just a psychological thing. Yeah that I know this. But if you look at Travis Frederick, he doesn't look the same right now, just a little body type, just looks like he's lost

some of the strength. I could be dead wrong there, but maybe because I'm just kind of noticed it. You know, even if you don't notice it. Like I said it at the start of the season, and I still believe it. And the more games we get into this thing, the more I feel like I was right, which is, you know why, like you probably could have just put this guy on ir you know, And that's not a knock

on him. I know he wants to be out there, but we're about he's not gonna play week three, so you're gonna you're almost halfway through the window for I R And Jerry Jones said Sunday, there's still no timetable. I think Travis last talked to us two weeks ago and said he was still experiencing numbness in his hands and feet. I mean, is that sound like a guy who's gonna be ready to play? And that's why, again, it's not a knock on him. I think the world

of him. I hope he recovers one hundred percent, but just like, just take football out of it for a little while and don't just put him on the shelf, which I don't and I don't know if that's something they're gonna do, but I don't get the feeling like he's gonna help you anytime they lift every week. You know, they go in there on Fridays and that's part of their and this is during the season. He obviously hasn't

been able to do that. And if he can't feel his hands in some of his feet, he's not gonna be lifting weight. So I mean he's gonna he's not in football shape right now, and I just think it's gonna take a little bit. So the point is there. You can get excited about Randy Gregory coming back on defense. He can get excited if he wanted about David Irving

coming back. But just like we're doing all this without Frederick, I don't know if you're gonna get Frederick back, and if you are, I don't know if he'll be the same. One thing, one more thing I want to hit before we take our final break. Um. I don't think any of us expected at this point of the season we would have three three games in a row where the Cowboys will face teams at at this moment don't have a win. Next week, you go this week, we go

to Seattle and they'll face the Seahawks. Then they have a game against Detroit at home was also owing two. Then they go on the road to Houston, who was also Owen two. I think most of us probably thought that at least Seattle and Houston would be pretty good this year so far, that has not that has not

reflected in their records. That being said, of those next three games, which one do you think is the most troublesome for the Cowboys Of those oh and two teams that they'll face over the next three weeks, I would say, um, Seattle. I think that's because of place. That's part of it. I mean, not that they haven't won there, but I just don't feel like it's it's a I just think the whole setting of it is gonna be gonna be tough. I mean, talking about O two team making their home opener, Uh,

you know, they they got to have this one. Uh, you know, they probably don't like all this stuff that's been talked about, you know, with the earl Thomas and all that. They're like, watch this and I feel like, you know, it's a quarterback that that. You know, they give up a lot of sacks last night, they did, But I still think that's gonna be a tough game. I mean, you know, Detroit at home would be tough,

and Houston that'll be tough. You got a lot of cowboy fans there, though, I just think seat don't if I had to guess, would be the toughest one, So it could be a hornessness that you're walking into there. Just I feel relieved because I thought I was crazy for thinking that, but literally, you know, I watched the whole game. I'm sure most of the people are a lot of people listening to this did too, and like, rather than feel good about how bad they looked, I

was just like, this is bad. I would I would rather they win and be one in one and the sky's not falling because an O and two team, not just an O and two team, but an O and two team that's used to winning, that knows how to win. It's got a quarterback that won a Super Bowl, the coaches won a Super Bowl. There's some fiercely proud players on that defense, like Earl Thomas and Bobby Wagner, who are not used to sucking, and I just think they'll probably pull out all the stops to keep this slide

from getting worse. I don't feel good about it at all. It was because I was here in the late late nineties,

early two thousands. I've seen though, when even when you have those kind of guys, when you have a bunch of guys around them that are young and don't know how to win, they can easily get frustrated and before you know it, if if they they may not even have enough to be able to lead them out of that, right because at the end of the day, they're three guys on that team that you look at and say, oh, yeah, they're a part of the greatness that Seattle has been

and had, what they've represented for all these years. When you look at Russell and you look at Earl Thomas, and you look at Bobby Wagner, there's a bunch of guys going I mean, I'm I don't know that I've seen a team other than maybe San Francisco, maybe it was at five years ago, just lose all of their like all of their players that were their name guys just all of a sudden seem to not be and like to your point, two thousand and two Cowboys, I

just I'm just thinking about that particular team. Darren Woodson was still you know, playing, it was still royd Glover, Dexter Cokeley, and you still can only win five games, you know, because so you're I think we're onto something that let's see what happens, because they you know, it's hard to put a team, oh in three, but absolutely one of the reasons why they're in two is because when you watch their offense and you're like, you know they're gonna have a hard time moving the ball on

this defense, and and you know their defense can be exploited a little bit, especially if you can run it on him. It'll it'll be a fun game. It'll be a fun game. Whether we'll be a factor, We'll talk about that all week. I was gonna we don't. I don't want to get too far into it if I have to give a scouting report on them tomorrow, but I just would like to point out, I mean, these teams are pretty familiar with each other by this point.

You know, the fourteen game is still the best Cowboys game I've watched UM fifteen and then last year too, so they played three times in the last you know, three or both teams are so different, but even the last year. The point I want to make is that Seattle not being able to protect Russell Wilson has is not a new thing. That's true, and they have schemed ways to keep him clean enough to beat the Cowboys

the last two times they've played. So I'm just saying, which the Cowboys pass rush looks better than it has Seahawks protection looked real bad last night, But I remember in fifteen he had no time whatsoever. I mean, you know, Greg Hardy made that acrobatic pick and all the I mean Russell Wilson tackling him by his shoestring was the only thing that kept him out of the end zone. But they still won that game. So all right, it's like our final break. We'll come back. We'll close out

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All right, let's get back into it. We'll take some phone calls and numbers eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven again it is eight eight eight five five two two nine se We'll try to get a couple of calls here, and before you end the show, we got a call from Rob in Vegas. Rob. What up? Hey? Rob? Hey, guys, are you doing good? Another year? Another year? Sir? Talking about Bryce Butler. I don't think he has to be great. I think it just has to be better than Terrence Williams,

and right now that ain't gonna take much. I think he's got two catches. That's not a bad point at all. Ye, and can we get away from the two tight end sets? I mean, I don't know what it accomplished either going to get a holding penalty. We never throw it to them, and let's just go spread them out. I think that's what they started against the Giants. It looked, it looked better, and then I think that's they closed it back in and all of a sudden they couldn't move the ball.

I think used the speed that we finally have, that Rico gathers in, there should have been a touchdown. I'm not saying a guy maybe truly knows all the playbook, but he's an athlete and he's so big. I think he could just do more stuff and I'd rather go that way. Let's use the speed, and I Dak is never going to be Tony Romo when it comes to throwing a ball as a fan. I have to realize that, and I'm okay with it if they use him like

they did against the Giants. If they if they try to make him, they pass her, this team's gonna suffer. Let him do his few runs, and if he gets one hundred and seventy one hundred and eighty yards passing and fifty yards rushing, it gets first downs on those runs. I'm okay with it. Yep. I think that's that's very logical. Thanks for the call, you know, I said that, Oh so go ahead, No no, I said that yesterday. This is it's a totally arbitrary number that I made up.

But if you just if you go look at the games where Dak has played the best, he flirts with two hundred and thirty eight to two hundred and fifty yards and doesn't He doesn't have to throw for two fifty if he throws for one eighty and runs for sixty, or if he throws for two twenty and runs for thirty, as long if the runs are productive and the throws are smart. Yeah, like, that's that's this offense. If you don't like it, I'm sorry, that's but that's I think

that's their best way to move the chains. And that's I was disheartened a little bit to hear Steven Jones say that he wasn't sure it should be a weekly staple to be running Dak like that. He said that on the fan one oh five three here in Dallas yesterday, and I was like, I disagree, Steven. I know it's your team, but I think a minimum of five No, I wouldn't want him run in fifteen times like Cam Newton, but a minimum of five carries per week for Dak in my opinion, and to me, it has to be

a part of the offense. I agree because that's honestly, that's one of the best things that Dak does. So when you take it, I've watched this with my college team. When you take when you put a guy out there and you know the best of what he does and refused to do what he does best, to me, that's short circuiting your team. It kind of defeats the purpose of putting him out there. I put the other guy out there if you don't think you want to do the things that he does best. So I think it's

it's kind of nests. I mean, I think you know and you got to take advantage of where the rules are. I think it's one of the worst rules the NFL has. But when when you get to run twenty five yards and then decide that you get to slide part he's over. Yep, you got to take advantage of it. I think the NFL should change it, but they won't, and and you know, take advantage of it. And that to go back to the other point too, is I don't need Dak to

run for sixty yards, you know, like Cam Newton. And you know, if he runs five times for twenty one yards and one of those is a touchdown and another one is a crucial third down conversion, that's pretty big

even if it doesn't jump off the statue. If if he gets to the outside because he keeps the ball, he gets to the outside at the forty yard line and went twenty yards because and then then then you get down to the eight and they do it again, and that linebacker is cheating, going hope is Dad going to keep it? And that's all it takes for Zeke to run right up the middle because because the threat is there. So I definitely think you got to make

it a staple. The one thing I will say, though, is I kind of agree with Stephen from this standpoint. If it's his own read and it's not there, then it doesn't. They don't need to call plays for him to run. They need to create those opportunities where it's an option, and that forces teams to say, we're gonna choose one way or the other. If a team's gonna say we're gonna take Dak away, we don't want Dak to be running free with the ball. That's fine. I'll give it to Zeke every time. And as a matter

of fact, I'd love to give it to Zeke. So if they want to take that away, whatever they're gonna give up in order to take that away, then give it up. Take it away, and we'll gladly not run the quarterback. But that's from that standpoint. Yeah, he doesn't have to be he doesn't have him being a runner doesn't have to be a stapled offense. Him an option as a runner, to me, does have to be a

staples offense. There's and that. I mean, we talked about the tight ends yesterday and we will keep talking about them, I'm sure. But there's two routes that I feel like they're gonna go with that They're gonna say this, we're not really doing this, well, we need to do something else, or they're gonna say, we're not doing this well because these guys are so new and we need to keep doing it so they get better. And that's just a guess on the way they're gonna I think they're gonna

go to the latter part. They're gonna say, rather than do something else, because we're better at it, we're gonna just hammer this thing until we get about what we do, not with somebody to us. Oh yeah, all right, we appreciate you, guys, jon us. We're back tomorrow eleven forty five till then. For Nick Eatman, Dave Helmet, I'm Derek Elton. This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.