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of the Dallas Cowboys. UM. A lot of things happened this week. We got the owner's meeting, a lot of news. You got Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, Mike McCarthy talking to

the media. There's a lot of different topics that will try to hit today, but I wanted to start off with I think one of the things that fans have criticized the most when it comes to the Dallas Cowboys last year, Dak Prescott and the interceptions, and I wanted to kind of ask you guys your opinions and some of the things that McCarthy said as far as how they're working through this, how they're working with the coaching changes, the different roles here and what they're trying to do.

And Nick, you were out there, what did they say as far as like fixing this problem? How did they get Dak to be I guess keep being aggressive boor, but protecting the ball, well, not throwing a Protecting the ball is obviously the key. And basically what it starts is and it's going to start up front, and we'll talk about the offensive line, but that's what they keep saying is that they've got to get him upright for twenty games. Twenty games is the goal for for Mike

McCarthy on on playing uh Dak Prescott. So that's where I believe he thinks it starts, is getting getting pass protection. Pass protection. We can talk about Terrence Steele and Tyre and Smith and Tyler Smith and all that. They're gonna make sure they got five guys that could pass protect because as much as they like to say they're going to run the ball, it's still pass protection. It's still Mike McCarthy in a West Coast offense as what he

referred to it several times. So, um, I'll let Brian speak a little bit more about what they're gonna do with the turnovers part. I mean that's something that they're drawing to address. But I think it does start with

the offensive line. Yeah, they t they we learned that that you know, just uh maybe several weeks ago, that that Dak Mike McCarthy and and and Tolzine's Goot Tolzine the coach sat down and they went through every single interception he had this year and then in last year and try to pinpoint the reasons why, what were they What were the factors that led for the interceptions were? What were the decisions that were made here? What were you seeing? I think that's the thing when you're um,

you know, when you're trying to figure things out. We always talk about the autopsy. You know, you're trying to get you see clues, You're trying to figure out, Okay, what was the cause of death here? And you know, if you want to in football terms, death is turnovers. You know, it kills your opportunity to win games and statistically, you know that's something that's always part of that from

your scout's eye. Is there something I know this? I can't ask you ahead of time to like watching it go back and watch, but uh, from the season, what you remember is there something in general that you notice that was Dak's main problem. I don't think he sees to feel particularly well at times. And there's times when you see him with when he moves to his left. I feel like when on the move, he sees things a little bit better than when he's stationary in the pocket,

you know. And I think that's where if you look at the throws and some of these interceptions were not his fault. I mean, when you start to talk about balls, you know, clanging off receivers or getting tipped or things like that, that's not on necessarily on Dak Prescott. But if you're all of a sudden throwing a ball down the middle of the field and you read the coverage wrong, or you don't see a safety sitting there, or a linebacker on a deep drop sitting there, then that's an issue.

The really the elite quarterbacks in the league, I believe, have that ability to see the whole entire field and anticipate where guys are going to be. You know, they talk to Aaron Rodgers about this all the time. You know, Aaron Rodgers would rather have a stationary you know, with his with his team now with the Packers, the way. Well soon maybe it's not gonna be his team anymore. But all the movement movement is supposed to show you what it's going to happen. Aaron Rodgers is more of

a stationary guy. He goes, I want to see just where everybody's going to be when the ball snapped. I don't want people moving around. I just want to see stationary stuff and that way. You can read that way. And I think with Dak, they're even going into now eight years, there are things that he is deficient at, and I think reading the field at the absolute time. There's times where Dak is early in his career, would turn his back to the defense and then have to

come back and then you're not sure. He wasn't sure where everybody was, And I think that's the biggest He's got the arm strength, the arm talent to get the ball to where it needs to be. It's just when people get into throwing lanes that gives him the biggest problem. You know, last week, Dak along with they were having a charity event in Dallas and he talked to the media and one of the things he mentioned and they made the headline. We put out an article on it is.

The time is now, basically, and I thought it was interesting to see you hear about the team trying to cater to Dak, build a team around Dak, and then you see people come and go and then now, I guess the biggest awakening moment was Zeke's departure, knowing that he was drafted with him and knowing what the two built in their time with the Dallas Cowboys. Nick, when you hear something, it changed like this, all these moving parts, all these moving pieces, and again we'll get into the

old line pretty soon. But what do you think, what else? What else can the Cowboys do to get to that level now that basically you only have Dak Prescott. Well, they can give better receivers. I mean that's the thing that they quit trying to think that you know, you're gonna find like everybody's gonna be a Miles Austin, because

even Miles Austin that needed four years. And so you know, they they this is twice that they've done it in the last five years where they've gone into a season thinking whether off it their receivers were good enough and they weren't. I mean, Noah Brown should should be a fifth receiver. And and if he's but if he if you're making him the second or third Yeah, he has a couple of moments here and there, but that's not what he is. And and Dak needs better than that.

DAC needs better than than Jalen Tilber that didn't play much last year, and so it needs better than than Michael Gallup every other game maybe having a few plays here and there. So they they've got to commit more to the receiver position. And that's that's the balance here. That's the toughest part is that you're gonna pay a guy this much money and then he still needs help around him. That's that's the most quarterbacks do I mean, think about it. I mean, Kirk Cousins gets paid a

lot of more. He needs may needs star receivers around him, and and and that's that's just the fact. That's the way it is. There's only a couple of guys in the league that can elevate all these other guys. Most the guys need help. And I think that's what the

Cowboys did by getting Cooks. Do you think it's uh, you still think they're going to make the same mistakes because what Amber was talking about earlier that we're going to get into the offensive line, that they feel like that that's really the issue with Dak right now, or the thing that's holding Dak back. I think I think that because you make a good point about the receivers. Yeah,

absolutely right. I don't know if they share your opinion. No, I mean, and they don't share my opinion about it either. But you know, the thing about it is, they switched the offensive line coach. They took the assistant offensive line coach and made him a running backs coach. You know, they're they're looking at potentially drafting a guard. We're not going to we're gonna get into the whole thing about

Tyrn Smith and all that moving around up front. To me, it's like they haven't said anything about, oh man, we have got to go out and get better receivers. It is the focus of this thing has been right on the offensive line, you know. And that's where I can say I agree with you about the better talent around him. The point that they're even talking about potentially drafting a

tight endy six. When they had Dalton Schultz, they just let him walk, and you know, they say, well, we really like hindershot and Ferguson and all that, but the fact that you get you're starting to hear whispers that they would consider drafting a tight end at twenty six. You know, it's not about the bit of receivers. It's

really about the offensive lines, about the tight ends. And you know, they committed a franchise tag to a running back, you know, so you know it's everything but wide receivers. And I and I don't and again I don't disagree with you on the talent that needs to be over there. Yeah, but you know they and they did that, They addressed it. They got Cooks. They got a guy that has been at five different places now and he's he's had success

at all in all of them. And so I think that that that was a scheme friendly type of player, and that that he has bounced around a little bit and shined regardless who the quarterback is throwing them the ball. So I think that that's a good thing. That'll be a good fit and not at t Y Hilton come in, you know, like after Thanksgiving, Like this is a guy that could be here at training camp. So I like, I like that move. I think Gallop is going to be better for a whole year and he'll he'll have

some more repetition. What bothers me a little bit is that right now, I don't feel that there is enough competition like I would like to get into when we get to training camp. Well, these are the group of guys, and who who's gonna be the guy? I mean, you know you guys Ceee Lamb and you got Gallop, and you got Tolber that's supposed to come back in and see if he does anything this year, and the addition

of Cooks. But is there something you know, when you get out there, you feel like, oh, there's all this talent. Let's see how they compete out there for at least the third with somebody will though. I think somebody between Tolbert, Semi, Fihoko, Kvante Turpin, somebody will make that jump. And it probably comes down to who's working with Dac the most of this offseason, but I think I think somebody will make that. We've seen it with Cedric Wilson, We've seen it with

Noah Brown. We've seen them guys make a jump. But they need to make that jump into the third or fourth spot, not the spot. Yeah, all right, Well let's let's go ahead and talk about the old line and what we heard coming out of the owner's meeting basically saying that they're thinking or they're looking at you know, they're looking at all options, but one of the options is working Terrence Steele at guard and see how that works out and if it is a good fit to

put him there. What are your thoughts on this? That is a that is the complete opposite of a Jerry Jones theory that he has about offensive line play. It's a complete opposite Jerry Jones. The one thing that I know, working fourteen years with him on the scouting side and then now with you know and being around when with Dallas Cowboys dot Com, is that he believed And I don't know where he got this. It could have been from Bill Parcels. It could have been from John Madden

in the day. It could have been from al day, It could have been for somebody. Jerry Jones fundamentally believes in the front of the pocket. He believes in the depth of the pocket is set by the center and the two guards. The width of the pocket is by the offensive tackles. They keep people wide, you keep the front of the pocket solid. You step up. That's why he's made investments. That's why they had Ron Leary here, That's why they drafted Zack Martin. That's why they drafted

Travis Frederick. They've always tried to have powerful players in the front of the line. The one thing that we can say about Terrence Steele and listen, I've been the most critical guy of Terrence Steele as a player. Terrence Steele is an, in my opinion, an elite run blocker. When you start to talk about athletic ability and how he works with Zach Martin, I would say he's an average to below average pass blocker. And a lot of it has to do with his strength, the power, the base.

We've seen him. We've seen what it's like to have a power deficient left guard in Connor Williams. We've seen what that does for you. You know, you could be all you could be the best athlete in the world over there at guard, but if you play with a lack of power. Now every quarterback in the league is affected. They can handle the stuff that comes off the edges. It's the stuff in their face that they can't handle.

To me, if you told me, and I've seen some clips of Terrence Still looks really good moving around, you know, Duke Maryweather and those guys they've got, they've got him moving around pretty well, looks good, you know, Britt Brown, those guys. Everybody, to the kid's credit working art. But to me, if you don't have a bigger guy, and that's and that's the reason why this draft I think

is important. There's a couple of those bodies, those three hundred and twenty five pound guys that are athletic, that can plug in and play at that at that left guard spot. But this is this is fundamentally against everything that Jerry Jones believes when you start talking about the front of the pocket. And to be fair, Jerry Jones did not say Terrence Still would be a guard. He said he's a tackle. He did not say he's a guard.

He said that right now he sees him at a swing tackle with Tyrn and Tyler and then we'll see how it all shakes out. Mike McCarthy said, they're working out a guard a little bit. Stephen said, we'll see about the top five, top five players out there, you know all that. Personally, I think that the contract they gave Tyrann Smith was more playtime incentive and and if you're going to do that, then you've got to give him the opportunity to get it. Now, I think everybody

believes that it probably won't play seventeen games. He hasn't in six years. And even McCarthy says something very interesting. He said, we haven't had the same combination since I've been here, the same starting five week to week. That just doesn't happen. Doesn't happen at all. He goes, I'm tired of basically trying to get there. I'm now going to train ourselves on how to deal with it. So they've basically given up on this fingers cross hope that

we can have five continuity guys every week. Now they're just cross training everyone to play guard, tackle, center and you know, wing tackle fullback mc govern style and just say, hey, that's because this is a reality. Well in history shows that's a good idea, right. Well. Yeah, to Nick's point, into Mike's point as well, is that they've won twenty five games being able to miss mixmatch guys. We have Stephen Jones on on Fridays on one oh five three

the Fan. I've asked him the question because he always heard from him continuity, continuity, continuity, continuity. I said, how are you adapting to not having continuity? And he says, I really haven't. But that's what we are. That's the kind that's what we are right now as a team. And I think you have to in this day and age, you have to be able to mixmatch your guys and be able to win games. You can't sit there. This isn't nineteen seventy three with the same five guys played

together for eight ten years. It just doesn't happen anymore. Whether it's free agency, whether it's injury, you just don't have that. You don't have that luxury. And you know, I applaud them for being able to say, Okay, we can move guys around. The one that bothers me when you start talking moving guys around is I think that

Tyler Smith is your left tackle. So moving him to guard and moving him back and forth, that to me doesn't seem like he's the one guy that I would keep at left tackle and say, Okay, this is my future going forward. You know, I'll cross train everybody else to play positions, but you know, him maybe steal the same way. My question, is it? Sorry, I disagree with that, just because I think he's gonna have a ten year career and I'm not worried about the first couple of years,

just trying to get through this year. If if that is the five best, I mean, I get it, he's gonna play left tackle. That's a spot. But if if if I can't figure out my left guard and I've got him there and I've got a pretty good back up and I know he can play it, then I would I would consider it, but but not forever. You know, I think if Tyran was five years younger and then you've got three really good tackles, you got to figure

that out. But because it's like Tyler Tyrant is just kind of hanging on, I mean, I'd rather play them at left tackle, but and draft at left guard. That's what I want to do, right But if, if not, if your five best guys is it includes Tyler Smith playing left guard, I would be okay with it, knowing that it's not forever. Yeah. The thing the thing that I do know, and I think we all know, and

I think Cowboy fans know this too. You give them the opportunity to draft an offensive lineman late in a draft. It works out for them late in the first round, late in the first round, like the first round. It's a plug and play. I mean, it is an automatic plug and play for them, and it works out. It's one of the things that you know, you say, well, tell me about how the Cowboys draft. Get them picking twenty five to twenty eight and let them draft an

offensive lineman. That's sure of a thing that they have right now. So to me, they'll have that opportunity. They'll have that opportunity to say, you know what, we're gonna we're gonna help Dak Prescott because they've they've made it, they've made it a point to say offensive line first. They haven't you know, they haven't said, Hey Nick, we're gonna draft your wide receiver at twenty six. Hey Brian, we're gonna draft your running back at twenty six. They

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He spoke on just how the offense is gonna look not much different from what it's been, but also you are going to see some changes. So what are y'all expectations of what this actually gonna look like with Mike calling the plays? Now? You know, I think it's hard to say that right now, because you know, and Brian says this all the time, it's coaches, you've got to know your team. You've got to really know what you've

got so you can have a philosophy. You can say that this is going to be what I want to do. But let's see what happens in the draft. Let's see what they get. Let's they could say, we're going to have a ball control West Coast offense, passed short passing and all this stuff, and then you draft the three hundred and thirty pound left guard and then you pick another running back up who's two hundred and thirty pounds, and you're like, you know what, we might be a

different offense. And so I'm not trying to avoid the question, but I do think that the smartest coaches are the ones that fit their personnel into the scheme, or i'm sorry, fit the scheme around the personnel. And I we're still not all the way there yet, so I still think it's a work in progress. There's an old Bob Seger song and bar Way before Your Time. I've not even Bob Seger in the Silver Bullet Band. He had a line in the song he said, working on mysteries without

any clues. That was one of the lines of his songs.

And I think we're kind of there right now. I think we're working on mysteries without any clues and to me, it's you know, this is one of those things if you if we have to do June Radio where you know, you guys make predictions and tell me something that's gonna happen in this preseason, and and I would say week six, Mike McCarty, Week six, Brian Schottenheimer calls starts to call plays that would be one of my crazy throw it out their predictions, you know, like Nick loves it when

you throw out like a crazy prediction, like the ball is gonna bounce off someone's head and it's gonna catch it and they're gonna win the game, you know, and Nick loves that. I'm about, I'm about that's I'm about I'm one of them. Yeah. So see that's that's kind of where the June prediction for Brian Bross is that that by week six, Brian Schottenheimer's gonna take Why though, yeah why what what happens? You gotta wait till June to figure it out. But I'm just getting tell me

what happens in week five. Then I think week five is not going to be good. See That's what I'm saying. I think there's going to be some times where, like you know, all of a sudden, you know, they're they're going to maybe have a cup of rough patches, and there's gonna be a couple of games where we come on here and go, damn, we miss Kellen Moore here, don't we a little bit? You know, and you're just kind of throwing it because the defense plays its ass off and you lose a game. You lose a game

twenty four to twenty. Wanting to hear at this point, but that's what I'm saying. There's but see, there's there's so many questions. We don't know, we don't know what how much? What do you think Mike would struggle with the most as the play caller? I think I think when when you haven't done it for a while, there's a certain rhythm to a game, and maybe it's gonna take him some time to get in that rhythm of that game. He's also the head coach. I mean, there's

guys that are able to do this. I mean, there are some play callers, and I'd like to see the teams. You know, how how do teams that have the head coach as the primary play car how do they manage games? Are they a team that blows games? Because they don't they don't keep up with the situations in the game. I just think it's Mike McCarthy. He has so much faith in Brian Schottenheimer. And if you talk to people around the league, there's a lot of people that really

do respect Brian Schottenheimer. Really do I mean. And there's defensive players on this current team that respect Brian Schottenheimer because he was the guy in the Ben McAdoo role that was telling him, Hey, this week, you gotta watch what the Eagles do in this this RPO, Hey you gotta watch what the Commanders do when they get in this set. You know, there's defensive players that will tell you that Brian Schottenheimer was one of the reasons why

they played some better defense this year. So I'm okay. I just think there's going to be a time where Mike McCarthy is going to look at this and he's going to go, is some of my game management stuff slipping? And do I trust? Do I trust this guy to call the plays? I think that's it's gonna be one of those tipping points where maybe a game or two doesn't go their way, and it's something that he needed to be on top of you know, And that's a

good point too. And and we were both here in two thousand and three when when when but Parcels was here and Sean Payton was was you know, the quarterbacks coach and then you know, I guess offensive coordinator at some point, but no one knew who called the place. I mean really you didn't. And I think what was happening from what we kind of heard is that, yeah, call the play, but I want to run Marian Barber

here to the left side. So you got about four on your sheet, pick one, but you know, so who's calling the play as I mean, you were calling the play, you know, So that might be a situation too where McCarthy was just like, you know, let's let's run the ball four times and let's let's let you know, let's let Pollard have it or or whoever Ronald Jones or draft pick. Yeah you see, yeah, you know there this could be. This could be like riding a bike from

Mike McCarthy. You could absolutely do. I think though, that he's gonna have there's going to be a certain rhythm that they're going to have to and how much are you going to be a to get into a rhythm during these games in the preseason. You know, we're all terrified of injury. We all walk around in Oxnard and you know, in the beautiful weather, and then someone's laying on the field and we just immediately just all go,

oh no, the season's over, you know. And that's and that's where I think that's where I think Mike McCarthy helped Kellen Moore when Dak went down. I think I think Mike McCarthy said, listen, bro, we have to do something different here. All these things that you have on that left side of that call sheet of yours, you might want to think about the little right side a little bit, a little bit more, think about that. You know. I think there's some things, some suggestions and stuff that

Mike McCarthy gave. But there is a lot of confidence on the staff with Brian Schottenheimer, and you know, we

we've you know, we'll see, we'll see. We have memories of Brian Schottenheimer in Seattle and we think of his dad, Marty Schottenheimer, with Ladanian, Tomlinson and you know, Christian Nicoya and that just you know, running the ball with these mammoth but hemoth, you know backs, that's what we think about, right Nick, I mean, do you think of Marty shot and you know you think of the you think of the Cleveland Browns with you know, with big backs just

you know Ber yeah, Ernest Biner, yeah, Mac Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. We we don't we don't know right now. But there's a there's a there's a side of me that thinking week six, there's gonna be maybe two or weeks where something got away attention to detail, and now we need to focus back and then and Nick's point is who calls the plays? Whose lips are moving when you know the play goes in. You know, when you when you listen to everything, it's like you've

heard them say. You've heard McCarthy say this offseason, you know we're gonna run the ball a lot. You've heard heard him say it's all about pass protection. You're gonna throw it. Um, there's seventeen games in the season. There's gonna be a game where thirty five points won't win it. You've got to score points. There's gonna be game seventeen win it. We saw it last year. Every game takes on a life of its own, and you've got to

be able to win it certain ways. That's why I always say about the bus driver, I want Dak to be a bus driver. I want him to be a badass bus driver, though, I want to be a bus driver that can that can get it in the hov lane, then take off if you need to, but also go you know, go twenty when you when you need to as well. That's what a game manager is. Sometimes you have to step on the gas, sometimes you have to pull back, and I think you have to figure out

ways to win in multiple ways. And so that's you know, if it's just gonna be a running team, it's gonna be a passing team. Maybe, But I mean, nobody's ever won a game in March in the NFL or lost a game. So that's why you don't play games. Right now. You can say Terrence Steel's gonna do this and this and this, and at the end of the day, Terrence Steele's gonna play right tackle. That's what I believe. I think he's going to play tackle for the Cowboys. I

don't know right tackle, leftock, probably right tackle. But if he's healthy, he's playing because I think he's one of your five best. I guess we'll we'll see, we'll see. Yeah, no, yeah, that's a good thought, and I agree with However, I think I'm looking forward to seeing Mike McCarthy called in

place and seeing how that what that looks like. But I do think you're onto something about you know, you working It's just like working out a muscle or working out anything, anything that you haven't done in a while. Explaining that to maybe working out what is that. It's gonna take a little bit of time to kind of get the rhythm going. Let's take our final break. When we come back, we'll getting to the NFL rules and also the number change where players can know where zero.

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played twenty some odd straight songs. And if I always judge a concert, if you could go to it, you could sing eighteen of the twenty five songs that they play, if you can just just belt them out and be bad at it. Billy Joel did it that night form. You did it for the Backstreet Boy. I did. I did for the that the that the Miller lights that we were pounding that that No, that was a really fun.

That was fun. That was fun if you could go with a group of people and laugh at yourself for singing every I don't know the words of the song, but I was acting like I did. I think it was the Miller light that helped me that night. I was like, I don't know any Backfeet Boy song. Everyone was singing. That was fun. That was a good trip. All right, Well all right, Brian, real quick count count to three for me, Real quick count of three, one two, three,

count of three. One of those days. Okay, So that's my point. That's how you count. You count one, two and three. You don't count zero one two. I hate it, I absolutely I hate this change. But it's happening in basketball. It happened about I was wondering where you were going. Okay, I just think it's it's a zero. I told my son you you're not wearing zero for soccer. You're just not doing it. You wear any other number, there's not because that's a that's you're a zero. You're you're nothing.

I mean, what if your bank account was zero? Is that good? I mean, like zero. I just hate it as a number. I don't like it, but it's happening. Somebody's gonna do it for the Cowboys. Good fight between Micah Parsons and jay Ron Curse I saw on Twitter they're both kind of going at it. Um. I like Curse to win that one. Who's Yeah, who's Jersey Bill? We've seen there's a history of this whose Jersey Bill to pay off Micah? Micah by far right and he

doesn't have that second contract yet. That thing is that thing if Jalen Smith, if Jalen Smith Jersey Bill was well into six figures, what do you think Micah Parsons Jersey well is? I think it's you have to buy them all out right? Yeah? But but then again, I mean, let's be honest. You go to the games, you see a lot of Micah Parsons. His stuff's getting sold, right. The Cowboy's whipped on that one with with with Jaylen Smith. I mean, they just weren't buying his jersey. So there's

a lot more out there. But I still think there's I still think it's gonna be a hefty bill for Micah Parsons to do. I don't make more money off of Jalen by selling Yeah, I don't think that's happening. I mean I think it would be probably. I know j Ron Curse has been trying to get into single digits.

And you know what the rule changes did yesterday. It really helped out the equipment managers around the league because it was a big problem happening because everybody wants a single digit But they didn't change the quarterback or the kicker rule. So they didn't change quarterback either. But so from one to nineteen, you have to get your quarterbacks, you gotta get your kickers and punters, and then you

gotta get everyone else that wants these these numbers. And for the Cowboys it's even worse because eight and twelve are off the table, not happening offense or defense not happening. So they added a zero and then they and then I also said the kickers can now move up into the third up into forties and even in the nineties, which won't happen. So you can see a lot of kickers wearing like forty six. That's just the way it is. I remember, I remember, I remember going back way back

in the day, way back in the day. Is like Jim Otto with the Oakland Raiders. He was a Siner, so his name is O. T. T O. He wore double zero. You know. Jim Otto was like an All Pro center. Ken Burrow was a wide receiver with the Houston Oilers. He wore double zero. And then there was the change. They've had it those guys. I mean, I don't know, I don't know when the rule changed, but growing up as a kid, those guys wore double zero double I always have never had a zero right now,

I don't think so. But and I also remember, I also remember, like there was a punter named Walton that wore number thirty nine for the Steelers. So they've had the league has had numbers that don't that, don't you know, Mesh he probably played guard one time, right, but like I said, it was you know, they're they're they're foot like you see college kickers. A lot of these college kickers have ninety numbers, ninety nine, ninety eight, ninety seven.

You know that that's that's but those are primary numbers for your defensive linement. But then you got defensive lineman. I'm watching all this draft tape and I'm watching number twenty four twenty one. Is this twenty number stretched into this massive, you know, three hundred and twenty five pound guy. That's just you know, it's just like it's painted on him kind of the thing. But that's what it is.

I mean, these these these player there's these defensive linemen, they were like number five, number eight, you know, they were these crazy numbers. And you're like, no, that doesn't

that doesn't look right. And and that goes to show just when you're asking what happened at the owner's meetings, I mean, it's it's what everyone's talking about, and um, yeah, it's all over looks like my name, Um but um, but you know you're seeing all these all these you know, all these stories about the zero that that is not going to change the game at all, That doesn't affect

the game. There's nine rule changes, some of the will but the one that everyone is not going to make any difference in the game, which is which is good. I mean that just goes to show that well, there's not a lot of crazy rule changes. Yeah. The funny, Yeah, the owners had a good time there at the Biltmore, I think is what you're saying right there. The the thing about Dion Sanders said something pretty funny. He was talking about Jersey numbers and how you earn Jersey numbers

and were all the zeros and stuff like that. He goes, if you're a guy in college that used to have a double, if you were a double number guy like a double like you, you shared a number with somebody else. Yeah, yeah, you ain't playing right. You're you're a scrub. You ain't. I mean he didn't use the word scrub, but I mean you're you're not. If you had your number was with somebody else's number, you probably were the guy that wasn't gonna play. It happens here too, yeah, you know,

it happens with the Cowboys. Also. If they give you seventy four in training camp, not good. Yeah, yeah, not good. Well if you keep it, yeah, if you make the team, you're gonna wear Yeah, you're gonna end up getting another number for sure. But and you know what, are you surprised how quickly they gave away Zeke's number at twenty one lasted all of like it wasn't even it was still warm. I was surprised. I was surprised, not that

I didn't expected eventually, but how quake that happened. That thing went like, okay, well, let's clean out his locker there, you know, they're Bucky's boxing up everything, and the next thing you know, it's boom, here's a new twenty one. Yeah. And the reason why it goes back to the single digits. He wanted a single digit and it's like, we don't have anything yet. And then it was Cook's one of

a single digit curse wants a single digit. I think Nishan Wright wants a single day and it's like okay, you know. So so it was like I'll take twenty one, like okay, twenty one, and you know, and and then number three, I mean Anthony Brown, he's an unrestricted free agent. I guess he's he's definitely not coming back now. You know, they gave his number away, which that writing was on the wall there. They traded for Gilmore. He's he struggled the last year before his injury. Then he got hurt.

You know two things that was really wrong about last season was him having a breakout because I thought him and Armstrong were gonna be breakout guys. I thought I thought Anthony Brown was gonna be what dron Bland was this year for your team. Him and then the thing about Terrence Steele. You know those are the two ones. Those are those June all right, make a prediction things you know sure to go wrong. He said Door and Armstrong would have a breakout here. Yeah he was, Yeah,

he was one of the him. But I thought Brown, I thought round was going to be. I thought he was going to be Bland the interceptions and making plays and stuff like that. The thing about going back to let's go let's glass half full, the door's Armstrong. I mean, here's a guy that had eight eight sacks, blocked a punt, blocked a field goal. I mean there's no one in the league doing that, and that that goes the number one, that goes this guy can get to the quarterback and

make plays. Number two. He also is willing and good at special teams. You don't see a lot of guys getting eight sacks that are also like, yeah, coach, I'll put me in on special teams. Yeah. So that's that's a weapon right there, having a guy like that that can that can dip underneath and block punts and field goals and stuff like that and then also play on defense. Can I ask a real quick question, do you guys feel like that they're set at edge, that they're set

at defensive end? Because you know, in the draft, we're always talking about, oh, would they take yeah, you know, would they take Nolan Smith a defensive end from if he would if he were to fall. He's one of the best testing defensive ends. He's a really really good player. But would you do you think that they're set at defensive end to the point that they wouldn't draft one

at twenty six? I think teams I think that, and I think that when you look at like what the Giants did fifteen years ago, I don't think anyone is ever set at defensive end because if a pass rusher is there. I just remember the Giants going, yeah, we have Ocumanora, we have straight hand, we have Tuck and then you know Kiwanuka was there or whatever. They're like, take them, you know, or you know, or know the JPP was there and they're like, we're still we're going

to take him. You always will take more defensive. So I don't think teams would ever say they were set it. See I just wondered. But you know with Fouler, you know, coming back and then Armstrong and then you you know, you got all these get your deal for Fouler right right, Armstrong's done after this year, Parsons, So maybe maybe it's there. I feel like they're it's the same thing with the corner. It's the same way. That's what I was gonna say.

They're so I feel like there are several positions that we've talked of talk about on hearing. We're like take him, take him. But so I was gonna ask you guys real quick, what would be those main positions where you are like, definitely take the guy. Because we talked about I want guarden, I want a guarder tackle, I want another Tyler Smith and just so let keep giving me big guys in the front. That's what I want that.

I don't know if that will mess things up or make things better really, but I mean the guard makes a lot of sense. Yeah. The one thing I could said. I said very early in the show that you can let them draft a late round, first round offensive lineman. It's usually a plug and play guy and there and they have no problem with that. They have no problem with that. So if that's the thing, you know, take that position and then move on in the second round

and go from there. You know, start your draft off is something, you know, get a good, solid pick and

then and then do some damage from that point on. Yeah, and if and if if Tyran Smith stays healthy, and if Tyler Smith is good at left tackle and they have a guard steals healthy and all that, Terrence Steele is going to wear out the ref when he comes in every play he says, seventy eight is reporting eligible and that is your blocking tight end, and that you're just going to have six offensive linement and just steamroll people. That that's not the worst thing in the world. That

could happen too. So if you have this luxury of offensive linemen, then Terrence Steele can play play that. I would draft a guard just to keep Terrence Steele from having to play guard, because I think he's that good at tackle. I do too. But the top position, if still available, running back man don't get me started, because what happens is what happens. I get. I think Bjean Robertson, the running back from Texas, is one of the best players in the draft, regardless of position. I get in

discussions with folks about this all the time. You know, you can't take a running back. You can't take a running back running backs career, you can't take a running back. I think Steven Jones said it, well, there's a difference between taking a running back at four and taking one at twenty six. There is a difference there. I think you just take if that player right there, it's b Jean Robinson can help your team immensely. Now I will all say to say this, and we're about to do

the Draft show after this one. Rounds one through five. There are some quality running backs in this draft. So if you had the argument and you want to say, well, Brian, I don't need to take one in the first round, I would say, okay, fair too. And there's been some drafts where you can't say that, this one you can absolutely all right. And with that, I mean we didn't even get to the rules, but there's really not much going on there. The only one that was those fourth

down Yeah, I failed. Fourth down at tim is now reviewable by the officials up top, just like a scoring play or a touchdown. That that was kind of interesting. They did not they did not vote for the on side kick. UM had a good time there to build more, don't there? Yeah? Yeah, well I don't think so. I mean, I mean, let's this is Cowboys talk here and all that Cowboys break, uh, you know, Washington, Baltimore, Green Bay, Little those stories, storylines kind of took over everything else,

which is nice. It was good, all right, And with that we end the show. The cucumber water good, Nick, you try strawberry water or cucumber water. Oh yeah, yeah, camber water. That's right. Refreshing, It is very refreshing. Stake around the Draft show is coming up next, so stay tuned for Nicki Mint. Brian brought us a member Garcia. This has been the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.