Cowboys Break: Led By Zeke

number eighty two. Welcome to another edition of The Break, live from the s WBC Warriors Studios at the Star. It is a good Monday around here. Cowboys get a big win yesterday against the Atlanta Falcon. It's their second in a row on the road. They win twenty two nineteen, and we will tell tell you guys all about it today and what went right what went wrong for the Cowboys because there were some things they're still gonna have

to work on. And we have a short week. This Thursday, Cowboys are right back at it against the Washington Redskin and it will be victory Wednesday. This is pretty much like a Wednesday already we go with that um. But no, this game this week is going to be for the division. As of right now. Obviously it'll be for the lead in the division, very very important game, just as last week was a very important game, and just as a week before was a very important game. How's everybody doing

this morning? Great? Ready to jump right in? Yeah? Ready to ump them? Are important games, Yeah they are. You're right about that. All you spend too much time with broad us from coming from the Redskins. Win is the biggest game of the year because because of what you have afterward, and you know what the Saints are doing, and you know that that one's going to be really, really tough. You gotta win this one because if you go, you get swept by the Redskins, and then you're not

gonna do anything. And the pressure will mount with each win because at this point in the season, the Cowboys really don't have a lot of room for error. That is the situation that they've kind of painted themselves into, and so now they have no room for error. They've got to keep winning if they help expect to make the playoffs. Well, I said last week, if they beat the Falcons, they're gonna make it to the playoffs. Yeah, I did say that. Feel good about that. I feel

way better about it. Than I did. I was like that Dave sideboys, like they're gonna make it. But now I feel much better about it. The Eagles look like that they're they're they're struggling right now, yeah they are. And the Redskins are struggling as well. I mean the Redskins lost their quarterback. Um, I don't know if that's better or worse for them, but their offensive lines beat

up like it has been. Yeah, but you know, and I'm it's still This is as manageable a final stretch of the season as I can remember the Cowboys having. But at the same time, like the Colts look good all of a sudden four game win streak. Andrew Luck hasn't been sacked since like October fifth. The Giants have won what two or three in a row. At this I mean, it's will score thirty five points and yeah,

yeah they may not. It may not be enough to win, but they'll score and all of a sudden, Philadelphia will be healthy. The weak that they lay the Cowboys. I mean, there's just a lot of There's a lot of football left to be played, and you can't take a single a single team or a game for granted. If you're the Cowboys the week they gotta win. Love this dumb league. It's always entertained, always been changing, all right, So let's jump right in. I do want to talk first about

this offense. After only scoring three points in the first half, they were able to score four out of five of their final possessions in the second half, two touchdowns, two field goals. Let's start first with kind of why was there such a slow starter, or do you think that the slow start kind of affected them in any way, or what were you seeing different in the second half the first I'll say this, I think the Cowboys had a slow start because they wanted it to be slow.

They wanted I mean they obviously they want to score points, but they wanted to slow the game down. And there's no doubt about it. Look at those scoring drives. I mean they're running, running, running. That's why the game, you know, barely took three hours if that, I mean, it was a quick game. They wanted to keep Matt Ryan off the field, so that's part of it. But when you don't catch in when you get down there, then obviously

you're not going to score. But but the idea was to play that way and kind of grind it up, keep them off the field. So yeah, Stephen Jones said that after the game too, He's like, that was certainly part of the game plan. You know, it doesn't look as smarter pretty when you don't cash in. I mean,

Cole Beasley drops a touchdown. Obviously, they had plenty of They had plenty of sputtering drives and looking at it at it right now, I mean what they punted on two three, well two of their four yeah, well two of their three really, which that just I mean three possessions in the first half. That just goes to show you it looked. You know. The end result is what I thought it would be. They won, obviously, and they

put up some decent yards doing it. I thought, just based on the quality of the defense involved, I thought it would look a little more explosive than it did. But I think Nick's right that that was probably part of the game plan going in. Yeah, if you look at it, there were two drives at the Cowboys particularly did exactly that they had to drive. The first drive of the game. They had fifteen plays for eight yards and it took seven twenty three off the clock. That

was the game plan. And then the second half, they did the exact same thing. Actually was their first drive. I think it's spanned between the third and the fourth quarters, but it was a four team play drive for seventy five yards. Seven fifty three was a total possession time and they ended that one with a touchdown field goal on the first third. That was exactly that was exactly what the Cowboys needed to do and one to do

in that game will slow it down. And I'll tell you this, especially that team that they're going to play in two weeks, New Orleans Saints, that has to be the game plan. The more you can have those kinds of drives and keep their quarterback off the field and that explosive offense off the field, the better your chances are to win. They're gonna have to do that with a lot of teams. That is the philosophy of what they want to do. Right. You wanted to jump in

here just listening to you guys. No, no, I mean, clearly a big win for the Cowboys. One of the things that I'm still concerned and actually the whole red something you know, them scoring there, it's still a very grey area for them. And one of the things that did surprise me was Dak Prescott going into the end zone and keeping the ball himself, because that's something that we've seen in the past, but they kind of stopped

doing or using him. And as far as the running game when it comes to that area right there and clearly worked out. So they just need to keep doing

that and catching in on those. And now maybe I'm starting to change my opinion on the kicker maybe, but yeah, when you have the problems that the kicker is having now now now, then yes, it's very very important for you to be able to even if you were to convert it to like a two point, you know, if you can't trust him, but the having the ability to be able to do that and get that involved in that way and just get those extra points and however you can get points. I like that. But still we'll see.

I don't know about playoffs though, well, well there's some we're just jumping right to the playoffs. But looking at weeks left, uh no, I mean I always think that can run a little bit more often than he does. But I really did like the way they incorporated him. Obviously, the touchdown is huge. Brian made a really great point in his postgame notebook last night that he had four carries for five yards, but he did some crucial stuff like I mean, scoring a touchdown, picking up first downs

with his feet. Um. I would like to see more of it. But with the days Zeke had, I'm not gonna second guess that too much. I thought he was. He was phenomenal. And Zeke's um presence was the reason that that deck was able to get around there. I think it was Vic Beasley just shot down in there, and and you know Swain had a nice block. I thought Swain had a really good game. Um. But you know, just over all, I mean, you're right, it all starts with it does start there, and and he's two weeks

in a row now, he's just been phenomenal. Um, I don't know, I don't know if he's I mean, he's the best player on the field. But I mean there's a close second going on on that defense, and it's it was amazing. Just I know you're probably gonna get the defense here in a second, but it was just amazing. The irony if they don't take vander esh who who

the Cowboys should have taken? Everyone thinks it should be Ridley, and but just how ironic that Ridley drops the ball and it goes right to vander Esh and that really changed the whole game right there. Um, So it's pretty wild that that kid is playing at a high level to the point where I mean he is playing at a Pro Bowl level. There's no doubt about it. I really, I think he put himself in the Pro Bowl yesterday. I mean, I don't know what justifies me to say that,

but he just got off the ballot, so that helps. No, he's on the ballot. I mean, Cowboys fan base is gonna go nuts voting for this guy. He's playing great. He's a rookie. It's a great story. He plays for the Dallas Cowboys. I know that. I mean this was a regional game, it wasn't national, but he played the game of his life on national TV. Albert Breer featured him in his you know Monday Morning column today. He's I mean, he's blowing up. Obviously, he's got to keep

this going into into December when the voting ends. People love old school type players, and he is a throwback. You know, we sort of compared in my guests or he got comparisons to Brian Urlacher, which is like, whoa wall slow down. But that's exactly the type of way he's playing. He's playing at a level that I don't think we really saw a lot out of Shaun Lee. And I hate saying that because Saun Lee, no disrespect to him, but I think he is playing even above

that a little bit. In the passing game, it's really hard. Yeah, I think. I think it just depends on what year. I mean, Shaan Lee hasn't he hasn't made those plays in a while, but yeah, it's we're five years removed from when he had like five picks in a season. Like Sean Lee made those plays at one point in his career. But I guess and those he's on. I mean, he's on the downturn of his career though. There's no

doubt about that. Those of you that were watching the video of our show, Um, you just saw they show to play there in the red zone. It was a play that basically, um, he got a pass defense on the play, knock the ball down. It was literally in the receiver's hands and he was able to knock it, knock it out of the receiver's hands. It to me like those are kind of plays that you don't necessarily always see from linebackers. Linebackers typically they'll jar the ball

loose loose with a big hit. But usually most linebackers on athletic enough number one to be in the right position and number two to have the hand eye coordination to be able to quickly snap snap out a ball and knock it out of a receiver's pass too. I mean, I mean the ball just gets deflected right in there in his hand eye coordination just to catch it. And then when he catches it, he's going I mean, like he knows exactly what he's doing with it. He has

got he has got the freakiest reach I can. I mean, you know, you know, it's almost awkward to call him. We call him the wolf hunter. I think about this last night. He's more like a werewolf, like if you ever seen an American werewolf in London. I think where he transforms into the wolf and like his arms grow down to his shins, Like that's what it reminds me of. Like and I almost wonder, I'm not trying to take anything away from him, but I was thinking about this,

Yester Yere. I was like, maybe he's just such a good tackler because his arms are so damn long. Like your average player, you grab a guy, you grab him around the hips, and if you don't get it just right, maybe the guy squirts away from you. Like this dude can wrap his whole arms around whoever can reach out and get you. You You could be a couple of yards away and he still can reach out and get you.

It's like plastic I have. He's freaky. I have two really good friends that are high school coaches, and they both said to me yesterday they reached out and said, that play he made. They both comment on the same play, they're showing it right. There was that. Yeah it was he was blocked, but he made it. There's no reason to make that play. And if you are gonna make it, it'll be three to four yards. You kind of get dragged, but you finally he just like stonewalled the whole thing.

And that's a pretty good tackle in space. Matthews, Yeah, I mean he's done that two weeks in a row. He just figures out how to do that. I just think if if he plays at even a moderate level against Washington and New Orleans, that's it. He's in the Pro Bowl. That's I just that's what I think. And these interceptions certainly help. And anytime you can, I mean, that's all, that's all part of the highlights. They get onto Sports Center and that kind of thing, and they

help your building. I really don't think the Cowboys would have won this game had it not been for those two plays that he made, those two specific ones, the interception and then the one where he knocked the ball for where what he would have been a touchdown for the Falcons. Yep, all right, let's let's flip back over to the offense. Yeah, sorry, Ezekiel Elliott, you mentioned it, Dave. He had a monstrous game yesterday. He ran twenty three times for one hundred and twenty two yards five point

three average in a touchdown. Then he also had seven catches for seventy nine yards one hundred and I'm sorry, and then no touchdowns on passing, but totally he had thirty touches, two hundred and one total yards and a touchdown. Phenomenal day. But that's what has to happen if this team's going to be SUCCESSFU And I don't want to, I don't want to like say that this was all drawn up as some grand plan and the Cowboys are smarter than everybody, Like, obviously you're gonna take chunk touchdowns

if you can get them. You know, Dak took a shot to gallop on a double move like early and it didn't connect. But I really do to Nick's point, think that was part of the game plan. Is like I watched every I watched all of his touches back on a highlight video today, and they're all it seemed like they were all designed just to eat up short yardage, tire out the Atlanta defense, and keep the Cowboys offense

on the field. Seven catches, the vast majority of them, with the exception of It's yeah, no, but well he got drafted. We've been asking for it, we've been asking for it, and but these were it looked, you know, these were designed dump offs to you know, give him the ball four or five yards down the field and see what he can do with it. And I do think that plays into the idea that they didn't want Atlanta's offense on the field, Like they weren't necessarily trying

to score on every play. They were literally like, let's beat the crap out of these dudes and keep their off ens off the field. And that's what they did. Here's my favorite play of this for Zeke in the game, and you're not gonna see a highlight of it, and it was Amber knows probably what I'm about to say. The Falcons just scored nineteen nineteen. Crowd's going nuts. And here we are. We're standing down the sideline. You guys probably saw it too, and we're standing right by Maher like, Okay,

what's gonna happen here? Zeke walks over to him. He walks over to him. Of course it's loud. We don't know what he's saying, but we know what he's saying. You know, he's saying, Hey, he's pointing kind of we're gonna go down there and we're gonna go and we're gonna get arranged. And he's kind of hitting him on the chest. He's like, you're gonna make this kick. You know, he knows that he's been shaky. He knows how important

it is. And that's a guy. When you think about it, you could see easy to be focused on what your job is. He already knows I'm gonna we're gonna get down there and our kick is gonna make this kick. I don't think Ezekiel Elliott does that last year, two years ago, that he understanding. Garrett says, all time a guy loves football. Okay, that's cli, but that's what that is.

It's understanding the moment. Understanding, you know, not only I had my job to do, but I want to make sure our kicker he's ready to go and it gives him confidence. I'm not one hundred percent sure he knows his full name is Brett Maher, you know, but he knows, you know that he needed to go make that kick. And I thought that showed a sense of leadership and some maturity out of Zeke that we necessarily hadn't seen before.

And I even said, I think it was to you or Rob, I said, we're gonna we're gonna talk about that. He just gave him a pep talk. He's gonna go make this kick, and I'm gonna go say it on the air afterwards. You know. Really, the really cool thing to me is when you're able, as far as us as an observer to see those moments and notice that it's not like he's not doing it in front of a camera. He's not doing it for anybody to see

that or anything. He's doing it out in the corner by himself and is genuine, you know, and it's real and you appreciate that even more. And we also saw that when Xavier Sophila before he started his first game, he you would see him in the locker room off to the side. He would be sitting next to him talking to Xavier, talking all football or whatever. So it's really impressive to see the kinds of things he's doing now as far as a leader and just so much

mature and his body. Nick was I said, I was gonna bring this up to you know, we talked about the locker room stuff. Yes, he walked in the other day without a shirt and Nick, shoot, there he was drooling. He was like, he was like, he was like Dann damn, look at ze. Look at those apps. Shoot he looks good. Whoa should your wife be a work now? But the point is it's like, not only is he mentally healthy and as a character as a person, he is also

physically healthy. And it's noticed on the field how much different he looked in the movement and the pace and how fast he is. He don't look like that. I mean, I mean, that's that's what it is. He before. He's not making that he's not jumping over a quick person like that. He has got his body right. It's noticeable, you know, And that's what he's doing and I think, I mean, we all should be proud of the type of person and type of player he's kind of developed into.

He took a beating last year off the field. On the field, and he's playing with a ship on his shoulder, and he's really carrying this team. He's carrying this offense and he's making Dac better, he's making this line better. And so I just think it's more than just the stuff you see. It's those kind of things behind the

scenes a little. And when you talk about leadership, I think there have been two guys, him being one that I think have really stepped up this year and taking the mantle, and I think DeMarcus Lawrence is the other. So you got those two guys on the offense and the defense, to me, that are really being leaders for this team and leaders for a young team, which is

what you need. And you were kind of waiting to see who's going to develop into those roles because they lost a ton of leadership when Jason Witten left left the team. He makes Antoine Woods, Daniel Ross, Dawrence Armstrong, and I hate to say this in a bad way, but he makes them relevant even more more so. You know, they have a perfect DeMarcus, Yeah, DeMarcus Lawrence. I mean

that they are a group. They're the hot boys. You know that they all have the chains and they have the hats, and Dave had a hat too, And I'm Dave is an honorary hot boy. The highlight of my weekend. I just want I want one to keep instead of just have temporarily. And I'm sure you would wear it everywhere? Are you kidding me? Yeah? All? But but the fact is is that you know he's on a one year deal and but but he didn't care about all that. You know that he's a leader, and I think you're

right those two guys. And Dak has leadership skills too that you know naturally as a quarterback. But he's got him there talking. Sorry, I wasn't just gonna add to another guy. Also, Sean Lee, what's impressive to me And we've seen the kind of leadership he brings and how of like a coaching role that he has And to me, one of the things that it's amazing is just watching him teach Laton and just be part of it and

not see him as a threat. And he knows that he's kind of because of his injuries and probably his time is coming up and all that, but he's not leating that effect his relationship with this rookie and trying to help him out to do better and all those things. So I just love when there are guys like that, and it really creates a makes a big impact on the whole team. Layton actually said last night that they ran the play he got the pick on they ran

in the first half. It was the chunk game to Julio Jones play action and he got sucked up on it, and Sean Lee basically was like, do this next time, Like keep your feet moving and keep yourself active. So if you do, you know, if you bite on it, you can get back in time. And he like took that teaching point and fixed it in the second half and was in position to get the pick because of that. Another guy that's another guy that's doing a similar thing

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real quick. I do want to talk about the offensive line a bit. We've talked about Zeke and his performance and how well he performed, and I think that goes hand in hand with the ability of the offensive line to be able to get hold create holes for him. We saw a lot of situations yesterday where Zeke was getting past the h the first wave of defenders, and a lot of instances without being touched. To me, that is a great indication that the offensive line is doing

their jobs. What do you guys see yesterday from the offensive line overall? Well, I thought they did a pretty nice job. You know the fact that Zeke likes to be a patient runner, and you do that because you know that you have confidence in your offensive line. You know, you can't just you have to wait for it just

a second, It'll be there. I thought, I think Xavier Suaphilo is gonna end up being one of the better additions to this team when we go back they continue to make you know, strides here and maybe get into the playoffs. I think we're gonna come back to that moment and go, you know what, like that was a really good decision to put him in there. He adds strength, he's a smart guy, he's pretty, you know, he's he's agile. I just think he gives him a little bit more

of a push up there. Yeah. No, I mean they arguably looked the most like the unit where to seeing as they have all season. I mean even last week in Philly they gave up four sacks, gave up two yesterday. I don't remember both of them in vivid clarity right now, but I know one of them I would call a coverage sack. You know, Dak double clutched the ball it felt like three times and didn't have anywhere to go with it. So you know that that type of stuff's

going to happen. But they kept him clean. And obviously, you know, Zeke did Zeke stuff which people have been commenting on Twitter like ever since the game that that was as patient as Zeke has looked maybe ever, just you know, allowing things to develop for him. That's I mean, that's a byproduct of blocking. When you have time to let things develop and wait for the right opening, that's

because your guys are doing their job. And yeah, I mean, I don't want to speak for Jason Garrett, but I don't I don't think you go away from Xavier Suaphilo after these two games. Yeah, they've looked really impressive. And credit to Mark Colombo too. I mean, the lineups different, but I don't think you can deny the fact that they've looked a lot better in the three games since

he took over either. So honestly, the only like little struggle that I keep seeing it or that I saw this game was Lyle callins just little moments here and there, and even then it was still good enough to obviously allow them to keep moving the ball and move around the field. But other than that, they looked pretty clean. I think Vic Beasley had both of their sacks, and he had one coming into the game. He lines up

on the left side. That's I mean, it hasn't been an amazing season for Lyle by any stretch, although he did make the play of the game yesterday. If it's not gallop catch, it's that one, it's the it's not only him scooping up that fumble, but falling for that was huge, he said on the plane. I talked to him on the plane and he said, I didn't even know I got it first down. But he's still funny because he goes he's I have the stats. He's like,

do I get rushing yards for that? No, dude, you don't. Actually, he just recovered a fumble, recovered a fumble. We looked at it. It's like fumble recovery two yards, So you get two fumble recovery yards. And it was huge though to do that to because a lot of times you just kind of use your big body and fall on the ball, but I mean he kind of un scooped

it up. Brian made another great point in his notebook last night too, like these if you haven't ever looked like these guys, they taped the hell out of their hands and then they put like they're basically like lacrosse gloves. I don't know if anything like you know, they're yeah, they're like goalie gloves, like I mean, padding out to here, like they look like they're going to play lacrosse. And he picked up the ball and did something athletic with it,

which is pretty impressive. He probably hasn't touched a football since he was in junior high so when he was running back and quarterback. Yeah, exactly. I don't know if LC was ever, I don't know. All these guys are so athletically amazingly athletic that I wouldn't be surprised. So just just imagine, you know, just taping up your hands and then a little golf balls bouncing around. You got to pick it up, because that's pretty much what it

is for like, right, yeah, how much? How much do you want to attribute though, too, that those coaching changes that you've made versus the change in personnel. I'm talking specifically about Sue Philo. Do you think it kind of goes hand in hand or do you think one has more of an impact on how the offensive line has played these last couple of weeks. I'll say that I do think that he fits the style that they were talking about where we call Colombo was like, we're gonna

get back to what we do. We're gonna be more of an attacking, you know, punch first type thing instead of kind of weight. And I think Suephilo gives them that possibilities more than Connor Williams. I think Connor Williams is not not there yet. They're not going to give up on him at all. I mean, he's got he's got some skill, he's got a mean streak to him that is gonna fit on this line. You don't know exactly, you really know. You don't really know how the Cowboys are.

And I'm saying they've won two games with the Xavier on there. They're not changing that. They're super supers. What is it like superstitious. It's Jason Garrett. No, it's not even superstitious. It's like this case better. Yes, he's just better, but they are. They've been better. They are, But I'm just saying they've been better as an offensive line us as an offense. They've been better with him in the game. They I mean, you have to mention both. It can't

be all or one or the other. But I mean all all three four really of the veteran guys, I think they've played better too. And I think whether whether you know, I don't know if Colombo is like this Hall of Fame coach, but I think they're probably just it's like a burden off their shoulders, like they can forget that conflicting technique that they clearly didn't like. You know, it's a guy, like I said, it's a guy that

they like that they get along with. I think it probably just makes playing easier and more fun for them. Everybody's superstitious. There's a there's a guy. There's a guy up in the PR department. It's to go to one game of the year. He goes to Philly, they win. Guess what, he gets to go to Atlanta. He'll be in it, and I heard his boss telling him last night. Makes you get bags are packed because you're traveling. You're traveling. You guys know you guys know how I feel about that.

And I'm just like, man, y'all put a lot of time and effort and blood and sweat and tears into winning these football games. And to chalk it up to something as silly as who's on the trip? Oh you want to hear another one? It's insulting, honestly in my opinion, like what like give yourselves some credit rather than meaningless

like who wore what sock? Like stop stop Brian and I do our periscope on Wednesday, I too left because no, no, it's like we're always looking for the room where we're gonna go in and do our periscope if we win. If the Cowboys win that week, they're like, oh, let's go back to the winning room. If they lose, us like we need to change rooms again. I'm like, Brian, this has the game. It's so stupid. Sorry. I mean, what we do on this show and what we write

about it obviously motivates the coaching staff. I saw I saw your little exchange with GB after the game. It is not happy. No, I wouldn't be. Gary Brown likes to point out if you pick him to lose, and he doesn't really understand it. There's a psychological thing going on with all of us in our own picks, because it's like, well, I picked him here and I picked him here, so obviously I thought they could win. I

just didn't see it. I didn't expect them to win, to expect that defense to play like them picked up the Falcons to win. I mean, we're about to do the stand up. He comes over and says something about it. I have no problem with that. It's just that where are you in Tennessee? Where were you when we're about to shoot Tennessee and I said, y'all would win by two? Is having fun. There's other people that would not be.

But I think he's just having fun. I it's it's pretty one sided, and it sucks, like, yeah, come and find me and apologize when I picked you to win and you don't embarrass yourselves on national TV. It's not fair. One other thing I wanted to throw about at the offense yesterday. Dad gets another game winning drive there and it was interesting. After the game I heard Dak talk

about it. I heard Cole talk about it that he Ze talk about as well, But they talk about how the fact when they get the ball with those kind of situations. Right now, they're getting a point where they feel like they're gonna win. They fuck, They're at least

gonna have a shot to win. Are you guys starting to feel that same level of confidence, because I do believe when Tony was the quarterback of this team towards the end of his career, I felt like if the Cowboys got the ball with a minute and a half left and they needed a field goal to win, I felt very certain they were gonna win. If they need a touchdown, I felt maybe they're gonna do it. They're gonna definitely be a chance. He's gonna be throwing into the end zone at the end of the game. They'll

have a shot at it. Are you starting to get that level of confidence yet? With Dak in this offense really telling quote actually speaking of the offensive line. You know, I give Dak grief because he goes out of his way to be boring with the media more often than not. But a really telling answer from him because somebody asked him, like, are you more confident and have you been more confident these last few weeks than you were earlier in the season.

And he was like, yeah, I would say so, and he said and he said something like, I don't really know why. I can't put my finger on it. And then he stopped himself and he was like, the offensive line has a lot to do with it, Like their mindset right now and their confidence, Like everybody feeds off that. I think he's more confident that he's not going to get hit, He's more confident that they can open up the holes that they need to, and he's he's playing

like it. I sawt you know his Uh, he's completing sixty three percent these last two games. Obviously, his averages are way up. His rating is at like ninety five. He looks like the guy we remember. It's what I said on Twitter last night. I think having that offensive line playing at a high level probably has a lot to do with it. All goes back to the offensive line, huh. I mean we shouldn't be surprised. That's the blueprint for this team. I know we had this conversation about five weeks.

It looks good. Yeah, yeah, Can I piss off our fans real quick? Sure? Absolutely do it. The coaching staff out coached the Falcons in this game. They did they They did a really nice job in this game. And and I saw some things on Twitter about it. We'll wait till Garrett has a chance to manage the game, and we'll see what happens. He managed the game like you don't just manage a game when you lost. They did a nice job there at the end of the game. And I told you about it before we went on

the show. If you play it right, and the way that there's like a little sweet spot of time, you have three timeouts. The Cowboys had five timeouts because they made the Falcons have to call one. Then they got it, and then they were able to call timeouts. Atlanta's trying to call timeouts to stop the clock. And therefore that Cowboys don't have to do anything. They don't had They just run the ball, time out, calm down, and do everything. They managed it perfectly right there. I think you got

to give credit where credit is due. Absolutely, And people were tweeting me like they expected me to be mad because I was so mad about the way the Washington game ended. I don't see the similarity there at all. I thought I thought they played it beautifully. They clearly wanted Maher's kick to be the last play of the game. You can say what you will, regulation yeah, yeah, or regulation sorry. And that is a crucial point too. The game's tied. If you don't score, you're you're not done.

And the thing that pissed me off in Washington was you'd been outplayed. You had a chance to at least you had a chance to try to win, or at least make an easier kick. They settled for a ridiculously difficult kick. Um yea. So those are totally different things different they got. I mean, people are like, why would you put that on Brett Maher? You got to trust that your kicker can make a forty one yard kick.

If he can't, then you're having tryouts. Like if he had missed that kick and they lose that game, they're probably having tryouts this week weekend. They don't have tryouts right now. But they've got names, I mean, I mean, without it, probably every position they've got. Yeah, I don't think Brett Mohur will be the kicker at the end of the season. Really, Wow, it's a big sta't Nicholas with flame? Jeez? I think he's going to I mean you saw the kicks. I mean they're not just right

down the post. I mean he's spraying it all over the place. They got to figure this out. And and I know what you're about to say. I know who? Then who You're not gonna get anybody that's just like this great, awesome kicker. He wouldn't be on the street. But his kickoffs are shorter now he's just not striking the ball like he did. And so I'm just saying

there's a short leash if he loses a game. I I think they're going to be looking at here's the thing right now, I'm Brett Maher right now is ranked twenty third in the league as far as is make percentage. He's at eighty four twenty one of twenty five. He has missed a field goal or extra point in all the last four games. Missed the extra point yesterday mister forty two yard or at Philadelphia, miss a thirty eight yarder versus Tennessee, and then missed a fifty two yarder

at Washington there at the end of the game. Yep. So it's getting to a point now. And I said it during the game yesterday when he missed missed the extra point. I looked over at Amber and I was like, we ready yet? Should we be having this conversation yet? And really it is to me it was ready to time to have that conversation last week, because any kicker that's on the street, like you said, you're probably gonna

get the same kind of average. You might get a little better, but you're probably not gonna be much worse. And so it does get to a point that and I was really worried that I said this last week. My fear is that at some point when your kicker becomes unreliable to the point where your coach starts making different decisions based upon his fear that the kicker won't make makeable kicks. He obviously did and do that yesterday. So it doesn't look like Garrett's in that place yet.

But he certainly was in a position where you wouldn't have blamed him if he would have said, hey, guys, we really can't settle for a kick forty two yarder. We gotta keep driving and we gotta be a lot more aggressive than just running the ball. Here're not sure he wasn't in that position yesterday. I'll say this we get. It's the interception. They're up twelve to nine. He's just missed the extra point. I look over at you and I say, absolutely four down territory here, which I agree with.

You run the ball to Zeke for eight, run the ball to zek for twenty three. Okay, yeah, touchdown. But who's to say that they weren't playing a four down strategy of run, run run. My point already been in there. Yeah, but my point was more And on that final drive, they were running the ball there towards the end of that and managing the game well. And as Dave said, he was putting the game in the hands of his kicker.

If he didn't trust his kicker to make what would be a makeable kick forty two yards, then he probably would have been a lot more aggressive there, trying to get to the end zone or try to make it a much closer field goal. Instead, he trusted his kicker. So the point is, I don't think Garrett is there yet to say he's making decisions differently based upon the kicker.

I don't think you're gonna find an NFL coach who has so little faith in his kicker that he's going to try to score a touchdown in that situation unless unless don't know, unless the kicker had already had like an absolutely awful day, Like I'm talking like multiple misses. I mean, he did miss an extra point. He also hit a fifty yard field goal. And yes, Garrett has more confidence in Mahr than than anybody else probably. Um, So they were never going to try to get all

the way the end zone. And that's I don't I applaud their their decision making process. They got within very makeable range for an NFL kicker or some mechanics mechanics issues that maybe he can he can adjust a couple of things. Number One, he's made it clear he doesn't kick on the sidelines. He doesn't kick into a net um everybody else does. He doesn't do that. I'm not sure why, um, but maybe that's something he can he

can do on the sidelines. Also, on these extra points, you know, they line up kind of like far to the left hash you know, And maybe that's not the right way because he hooked that ball on the extra point, you know, I mean he's kicking it left, he's kicking it right. Maybe they should just line up right down the middle on these extra points. Now, he did say on the extra point it wasn't so much a situation of mechanics or the operation. It was more he just

will I guess that would be mechanics. But basically his foot just got caught in the turf, and you know, it's just kind of like that happens sometimes. You know, you're kicking and foot gets caught in the turf before it gets to the ball. Right, Well, that's that's over there.

It's pretty similar to the turf that's over on the sideline. Yeah, maybe we should but but but I think that was just one of the situations where if you if you listen to his explanation, then that's just one of those things that just kind of happens, right, I know, but you give him my point. He had a really funny line yesterday that was like, you know, what what do you do to bounce back from that? You know, like, what's your process to get yourself right when you miss

a kick like that? And he was like, He's like, I don't really want to get into this specifics, but I just have this process. And we're like, is it a physical process or a mental one? He's like, no, it's not physical. It's a mental So he's like, it's a it's a mental thing. I don't want to get into the specifics, so like he's got I just I want to know what his internal monologue is if he's got this like top secret mental process that he goes to. The thing about Garrett too, and how what people you

know don't really like about him. Lance Lenora makes a really dumb play yesterday that was bad, and then that affected Atlanta getting fifteen more yards and going down there, and some people say that might have been a little bit better because it gave the cowboys a little more time. Maybe I don't know that. That's kind of the second kind of thing. But let's not make dumb plays like that. But even if it worked out, that doesn't mean it's

smart to hit a three yards off Garrett. He comes over and Garrett kind of you know, hits him on the on the head and kind of says, all right, you know, it'll be all right. That's where I think a lot of fans want, you know, old school grabbed by the face mask and get into it like that. But the same mentality the Lance Leonore is not gonna make a lot of players the rest of the game. But he also goes over to Brett Maher after that and says, don't worry about that. We're gonna give you

more chances and you're gonna make it. Does that help him, I don't know, but I'm just saying it. That's kind of Garrett's a pro teck that and I think maybe it helped her a little bit there when you know it, you want him to be a little bit more of that fiery bear Bryant types. Although I will say this there if you if you notice, I don't know if you guys saw, we were right there on the sideline when he came off. Garrett gave him the pat and Keith O'Quinn grab Hi by the shoulder pats and said

come over here, and they had a little talk. So my assumption is he was corrected. It might not have been the head coach that was doing to him, but he certainly was corrected. And again I don't know what Keith was telling him, but he certainly was having a conversation with him. And I would have supposed it had something to do with let's not make bonehead decisions, figure out where you are, know where you are on the field,

and make good decisions. I can. I can come up with a million reasons to criticize Jason Garrett, but like people who want the fire and brums the stuff or just dumb and they're mad and just want an excuse to yell at somebody, because like NFL coaches don't do that anyway, and it wouldn't last very long if you were grabbing grown men and professionals by the face mask

in the first place. You know, people love Chris Richard because he's fiery, and he is and it's great, but even I mean, I think it was New York, like Cavon Frasier made a mistake and that they caught it on the miked up afterwards, like Chris Richard's over on the sideline gently telling him, like you don't do stuff like that, like you know better than that. This is what you got to do next time, play your game, like very gently offering him coaching points, and like five

minutes later he went and got a sack, Like that's coaching. Coaching. Yeah, coaching is very much like parenting. You can't do all of one or the other, Like you can't always be on them, but you also can never you can't be in a situation where you never get on them, so you just kind of have to play it both ways, right. That's I never I never understood that, no, no coach in the NFL is gonna last long. Treating professionals like that like that, it's not gonna work. We're gonna take

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from take on the game yesterday, and it's with the quarterback. Um. I don't know what it is about that, but he it seems like he make his throws harder than what they have to be. It's like he throws the ball and it takes the ball takes forever to get to the receiver because he never steps up in the pocket or clam the pocket and make the throw easier. He's always fading back or jumping off that one leg and

the balls it just stays in the air forever. Like two times yesterday, one true Front almost got but Mark Cooper made a hell of a catch on the sideline. He was late with the ball, but Maria Cooper came up with the ball. And on the opposite sideline, Gallup had a catch on the sideline where the defender almost undercut it and it barely missed his fingertips and it got to the receiver, but it seemed like it just

took a year to get to the receiver. And another thing with the secondary, I don't know what's cover just they're calling either it's man or Cover three or whatever, but it seems like it's always so much space in between the receiver and the d beings they always this, slants, always open, the digs, always olden, hold on, hold on real quick. I mean this Cowboys defense pretty much shut down the Falcons for most of the game. Nineteen points at home. I mean, don't you think that's nip picking

a little bit? That defense played a hell of a game. But it's a bit but don't break huh. They had a couple breaks with drops with with with with the tight end and and some of the receivers, it dropped some passes. Who is the better quarterback yesterday? Who was the better quarterback yesterday? I mean I would say pretty much even for real well, okay, I mean if that is even with Matt Ryan, I think Dad's doing some

good things. I'm not trying to say that You're not wrong with with some of those throws and and I don't think he wants to throw off his back foot and all that. I mean, but but I think he was still protecting the ball pretty well. Yeah, there's some places, but you know, you say almost this almost that they almost lost deck, almost lost the fumble. I mean, there's a lot of almost in this game that they That's the way that it is. I think for the most part,

Dad played a pretty good game exactly. But it's more often you're talking about what's what's happening with with Dad and his throws and his the basic quarterback and like the basic technique to step with a quarterback, it's he's he's. It seems like he's lack he lacked those basic and it's almost causing us. And I know, I guess a good defense was this what really wasn't a good defense, but a good defense are gonna take advantage of that.

I agree, I mean you're right about that. But just remember, like you're trying to compare him to these quarterbacks like a Drew Brees or whatever, or even a Matt Ryan. But when the Falcons get down to the three or four yard line, they can't run the read option with Matt Ryan to run over a linebacker and get into the end zone. They can't do that like that. That's

that's not part of his game. So for everything and all the little flaws that you might see out of Dack, he's got another element to him that that kind of I guess you could say, make up for it. I'm not trying to say that he's We've been We've talked about him a lot. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know what I want to say. I don't know what I want to say in response to that, because I agree with him to a degree, and I mean,

Dak is Dak is Dak. He's got He's got ten games of film that show you what he does well and what he doesn't do well. He forgets his mechanics at times, especially if he's not comfortable in the pocket. Um, he's not that accurate by NFL standards. Just I mean, he's not Drew Brees. He cannot put the ball literally wherever he wants it to go every time. He can't

do that. That's why he needed Amari Cooper. And clearly, I don't think it's a coincidence, even with the small stat sheet that Cooper put up, I don't think it's a coincidence that he's throwing the ball better having that guy there. He doesn't see the field that well at times, and that's just who he is. And if you're a Cowboys fan, you know, and I know, two wins aside, there's a lot of y'all that are convinced that Dak's

not the future of this team. And that's fine, but he he's going to be for the time being, and if you know, my advice to you would be appreciate what he does well and hope that he continues to grow as a passer, and I think there's plenty of evidence to suggest that he will. But getting mad about what he's not at this point in the season and at this point in his career, I just don't think it's just better win. I just yeah, yeah, I don't think it's worth the energy. And I can't I can't

go there with you. About the secondary, they gave up three explosive plays to this offense, which we spent all week worrying about. Julio Jones is gonna Julio Jones Like, I mean, maybe you don't want to hear that, but this isn't college, you know, Like when I watch LSU, I expect us to shut down the best guy because you can do that in college. But this is the pros. Julio's an alien. They held him to three explosives in one touchdown. I mean, what else do you want? And

go ahead? The D zone. We talked about how great they were in the red zone eighty eight percent and all that. I only got there once there once and down at the eleven and I firmly believe you get to first goal in the eleven, or first and tenth to eleven, or first and goal to ten nine with this Cowboys defense, like they really do a nice job of stopping them. When you get to that, everything gets, you know, shrinks down. And they did it again, and that was a big part in the game of stopping

them down there at the eleven yard line. And I actually disagree with him about the defense from the standpoint of just schematically what he's saying, I think it's actually inaccurate. I think that this defense, particularly, they challenge guys the line of scrimmage a lot more than defenses that the Cowboys have done in the last several years. You'll see them a lot more frequently getting up in guy's face

and affecting them off the line of scrimmage. And not only that, but I think when you look at the linebackers that they have, I think they feel comfortable with the idea that even if we give that cushion, our linebackers drop well, our linebackers also can lure hits, can bring hits. And so they look at in those kind of situations, particularly when they're in Cover three or they're they're in situations like that, and I think their goal is, even if he makes the catch, we want to get

up and we want to make the tackle quickly. If we give up five or six yards, that's our strap. That's okay because we feel like we could still make the stop on second or third down. That's how they played defense. That's the philosophy of the defense. They're not gonna give up the explosive play. They'll give up a little bit of yard, some yards here and there, and

and really throughout the game. If you notice a lot of teams this year that the Cowboys have played, they'll rack up yards on him, but when he gets down that red zone, they tighten up, and that's when they hold teams to field goals. That's how they play defense. If you don't like that, that's just a philosophical difference, but understand that's how they played defense. And you can't have one without the other if you want this good defense that has these kind of results, That's how they

play defense. They gave up. They gave up the touchdown to Julio, which I think was a thirty four yard game, and and then Julio had a pretty big chunk on him in the first half, like I think their first possession. Other than that, nobody on this offense had a game of longer than eighteen yards. And I mean Cheeto on that touchdown to Julio, that's I was so he was but he was great and he would have knocked that ball out of anybody because he saw him bad at

somebody else would have dropped that. It's a theme. It's a theme for the season. And I see people talking about that too. Is like it's who who was almost almost? Very church like Cheeto is almost there almost oh Man went five almost sex. I feel like six six weeks

in a row. You know, Detroit comes to mind. They have just been about six games where it's like, ah, like Cheeto's coverage was so good, but the ball was right, which you know at some point you'd like to see him make the play and win a couple of those. But like, I can't sit here and dog the guy like his coverage has been good. There's just some badass players in this league and he gets and they get

paid too. He gets put up against them from time to time, which I don't I can't find a ton of fault with forcing the Atlanta Falcons to four field goals in a touchdown at home. You know, you can call it an excuse or what I mean. They do have their front line defensive lineman they're playing, but you know they were without four guys inactive on that one position.

There's a reason why they make Antoine Woods a starter, and he plays, and Taco plays, and David Irving, you know, that would be nice to have him out there, you know as well. But Karen Reid steps in and when the first play the game should have forced an interception by Malik Collins. Get him on about that. That's why he's a three defensive line. Three sacks. Literally, we didn't know who was gonna play defensively. Marinelli and leon Lett worked out Damian Wilson at end before the game, I

just in case, and they got three sacks. Now, can I switch it back to Dak real quick? Let's do it. So, going back to his point and some of the things that we mentioned, it, I guess it doesn't to me. I wouldn't talk about it now because it's like when they win, you tend to okay whatever. They still one. But there were a couple of plays where Dak in this instance, and we've seen him have hesitation problems where he's just holding onto the ball and trying to figure

out what to do. In this couple of plays, he backed out of the pocket and throw the ball. One of them was too Amry Cooper. I forgot who the other one was too, But it looked like that's obviously the play that was designed, and that's exactly what he did. And he looked like a machine like, Okay, back out, I get the snap, but throw the ball, but it would be too further, too far ahead from the receiver to where it's like, okay, why are you making that

play though? Why are you throwing the ball at that moment when clearly the receiver isn't anywhere near the ball just yet. Whether that's the receiver that maybe took off took longer to get there, or whether you know it was between the battle between him and the defender and it just slowed him down a little bit. It's like, but and it makes me wonder, I mean, what do you do there? I don't know what too? Pinpoint is that like on Dak completely, what kind of adjustment do

you make that break? Because he just looked like a machine. That was the automatic move. I'm backing up. I'm throwing the ball right there no matter what. You know, he's not necessarily waiting to see what is exactly happening. If that's the moment to throw, that sounds like your third down play after Beasley dropped it on third end goal when he was just basically I think I think it was Cooper. He was just forcing it into Cooper. It wasn't really looking at anyone else, and it was incomplete.

I don't know if that's the player you're talking about, but there are some predetermined reads. It seems like where that's the throw, that's what we're doing, and you know he can do better job of looking, you know, looking somewhere else and then making that throw. But he gets closer to throwing interceptions of life don't five this year in ten games. He gets close to throwing some. But that's I mean Matt Ryan got close to throwing two

or three. I mean Jeff Heath, I mean Julio Jones been one of the best defensive plays of the game by knocking that pull out of Jeff Heath, and it's gotten him hurt. I've been thinking I've been thinking about a conversation we had during the summer a lot which was basically this, which is like, DA's not Aaron Rodgers, but this is what he does well, and this is

how you can win with him. And the first half of the season kind of torpedoed that because they were all so bad, I mean the whole obviously you saw the games, but whether it's you know, whether it's the fixes on the offensive line, whether it's Amari Cooper, this looks like the guy that I thought we'd see and and it's the same story, like he's not he's not all that polished. He's certainly not perfect. He's got a long way to go to win the way that a

Matt Ryan does. But the way this team's constructed, when he plays this way, you can win ball games multiple in a row. In fact, And one of the reasons why they don't throw the ball deep a lot, you know, it's because he's not very good at it, Like that's not his thing. He doesn't throw the ball deep that well. Um, And that was evident they did. They had a couple tries there with Gallup and wasn't really close. And Gallup didn't you know, it wasn't really able to go win

the ball or anything like that. It really wasn't a play that was that was even close to being complete. And I think if they were a little bit better

at that, we'd see more deep balls. And I'll say this too, on those deep balls, I think they're going to have to try how to find ways to give him enough time on those deep routes for the receiver to be able to make a second move, like a hesitation or something, because just running straight line speed, it doesn't seem like he has that ability to just outrun guys down the field, and I think that's why you end up in situations where there's really no separation, so

it's really a fifty fifty shot at best. Right, But we've seen him earlier this year. We've seen some plays where they have converted where he's gotten some separation, where he had time to make a hesitation move, the defender bites and now he's off, and that can get you some separation. I think Terrence Williams is a good example of that. Earlier in his career. That's one of the things we'd see from him often was it wasn't he

had burner speed. It was that he had the ability to kind of bait a guy, and when he bait him, he takes the bait. He's off and he can get you a play down field. They're gonna have to really give him time for that kind of stuff to develop to be able to connect like that downfield. But I think there's something there. I think they got that now part of the offense. They just got to start connecting

on him. I'd like to find I'd like to see them find ways to get the ball down the middle of the field more often, like and I'd a good tight end for that. That's a break tight end, tight end. You know, it seems like they never want to run crossing routes with anybody, but Beasley, I kind of missed that. That was a staple. If I'm remembering this correctly, that was a staple of Garrett's offense when he was calling

the place. It seemed like they were doing a lot of that kind And it's sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, but like it's it's probably fair to say there's more traffic in the middle of the field, you're more susceptible to throwing interceptions, and if you don't trust that to do that right now, then maybe you shouldn't. And again, he's not a perfect passer. He's got a long way to go, and that's a way you can

continue to develop. It's also a fifteen yard targeting penel any waiting to happen, because I mean, you can't hit anybody over the middle anymore like that. So unless you're Julio Jones, all right, guys, pretend you join us. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll get into the Washington offense. Dave will give us a scoutter report. Get you guys ready for that game on Thanksgiving Day. Till then for Nick

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