Cowboys Break: Keys to Victory

We are live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. We're gonna get you guys ready for this Cowboys versus Jets game. It kicks off at three thirty this Sunday in New York. I'm sorry in New Jersey. We sort we'll get you guys ready for this game. Um, how everybody feelings Friday morning? I feel fantastic, Derek Howard you go. I'm good. I'm feeling good. And are you good? I'm surviving. I'm good to have you back on the show. Nick, how you doing good? Good? Good? Good? Good? All right,

let's jump in. We got to talk about injuries. Man. It seems like you get familiar with what's happening on the field. And actually, as of yesterday when we did the show, it felt like from the injury standpoint, things were looking kind of positive for the Cowboys, and then we find out about another player that ended up on the injury report yesterday. Talk to me about Randall Cobb

and where he is not at practice. He actually he got out of stretch line or out of drills yesterday and had the trainers kind of stretching his back out, you know, you know, the hamstring stretches that you see athletes do, and then he left practice and showed up on the injury report. I guess he didn't come back. It's a it's a back. I didn't get to go to Jason garrets press conference today, so I don't know

a ton other than that. But he wasn't at practice today, which, as we always say, is not usually a good sign. And the other thing too is neither one of the offensive tackles was there again today, which that's why we always say, is like, you know, carry it all the way through till Friday. Because I've felt confident all week that Tyron would play in this game. I still think he will, but if he does, we were hearing that

he was going to practice today or do something. Yeah, and that's I mean, that's why you wait till Friday. If I had to say, I still kind of feel like he's going to play, but it'll be without practice, which is never a good thing. Jason Garrett said that he expects one of the two tackles to play, Jerry Jones or Jason Garrett. Jerry, Yeah, Jerry said that. Jerry

said that on the radio. He's like, well, we won't know till later today or maybe even as late as Saturday, but I expect one of the He's like, we'll have half of them back, is what he said. And I said on Twitter today, I think the smart bet is tyring just because he's further removed from his injury. You know, you just have conversations around here. I don't think there was ever a ton of realistic expectation that Lyle was going to play in this game. Has Lyle missed a

game ever? Um? A good question is I think I think he. I think they sat him down at the end of seventeen because he had a back injury, like for that Eagles game. Maybe I think he's missed at least I think seventeen is the is the year he actually played every snap. Dam I feel like his injury has I'll look this up. You were talking. You know. The interesting thing too, is if both guys missed the game, and then you wonder, what do they have enough guys that are healthy to just be activated. But I do

think that night and Camp Fleman would start. I guess uh Connor would be your backup rum swings and then and then Sepilo would would be a backup, and then Adam Redman would also probably be active if that happens. Well, he was on I R for most of sixteen with that toe injury. I forgot about that, but you're right he didn't mind sending games in seventeen. He has dealt

with plenty of injuries over that time span. Though. Yeah, it's you know, it's never good when you get to Friday and the guy that's been battling the injury isn't in practice. Like if if they can get out there and on Friday, you typically feel good about it. And the thing about Tyrant too is that usually you say, well, he's the kind of guy that could miss a week or miss practice and still play. But this is two

weeks now of practice. This is too you know, this is a you know, since that saints the injury, so it wouldn't. I mean, I still think he could do it. He's in that very special category of guys who I think could do it. It's just going to be a

wait and see. I mean, like I said, you know that the indication around here all week has been that they thought they could get him onto the field today, like Amber just said, So not a total curveball, because again he's he's only two weeks removed from that injury, but it is it is interesting, and so I think you got to prepare for a variety of options. It could be Tyrant and Cam Fleming. It could be Cam Fleming and Brandon Night. I don't I don't really buy

that Lyell as a realistic consideration though. Talk to me about Laton Vanderesh where he is in his recovery. He's out there that practice vertigo, which I've never had it, but I know people that have say it's very disconcerting. Yeah, I mean like nausea, like it, you know, make you throw up. Well, he was having issues with his ear, so you know that causes you to mess up your balance. You know, you I don't your equililibrium there we go

equilibrium something like that. It messes up. So it sounds like something that it's not really a big deal, but when you look at the effects of it and you having to play football, run and catch somebody and tackle somebody, then it might have a big effect. Then, you know, like, I don't know if it's the same exactly as a dog, but you know, wolves actually probably hear things a little bit different than than dogs and stuff like that, so you might it might be a situation like that where

he's hearing things that other people haven't heard. Wolf Hunter's right, it's possible he's a wolf hunter, not a wolf. I don't know how though. My first thing trying to draw wolves out when we heard that it was when we heard it was vertigo, I was like, maybe that's part of the reason why you kind of struggle on Sunday, did you. I mean, I mean, but we all probably thought that a little bit. He would probably heard that. But how hasn't he been struggled struggling prior to last

I mean, he hasn't. He had been great, He hadn't been great, But I don't last week with a whole different. He wasn't playing as poorly as yeah, but still the margin is not that far off. Knowing what I know about Vertigo, I don't think I believe that you could competently even get out there if you were really suffering from it, though you know what I mean, you wouldn't think so. So I assume it's like everything else, they are varying degrees of it. So, um, you know it's

been on how bad it is. It's funny because yesterday, you know, all we knew was that he had an illness and not you know, like, well, you can get IVS and they'll get you a Z pack and they'll get you right and flush your system out in time for the game. I don't know what you do to come bat vertigo, and I don't really know yeah how that works. But if he's at practice on Friday, I assume that means they feel good about his availability. One bit of good news for the Cowboys Antoine Woods practice

fully yesterday. Hopefully that means that he'd be back in the lineup. That can help. I know you guys have talked a lot this week about the fact you think that will really help the run defense going up against what many believe is one of the better running backs in the league department, regardless of what you think of their entire team, he has skill and so getting him back obviously makes a difference. YEPI too. He caught an onside kick today too. That was fun. Yep. They practice, well,

it's harsh, it's fun, not really practice. They would you call that practicing on side kicks? They just it's it's their fun Friday bid as they you know, Garrett picks two or three guys at random to come up and field and on side boys players either coaches, coches le say, has been done it? The linebackers, Ben Bloom, the linebackers coaches a pro, he's amazing at it. I think they've

they don't think they did that today. They didn't. He didn't do it today maybe the way but Antin they've been playing and yeah, focus, but Antoine goes out there and gets it. But yeah, it's different guys, security guys, scouts. So but you guys get out there one day. No, no, no, I'll catch it. Even if he just sit. Hey Dave, Dave, would you just turn and run? I wouldn't turn and run. I think I would freeze freeze, Yeah, like a deer in the headlights, Like here we go, we're rubbing the

eyebrows right now. We're just slack so past rubbing my eyebrows. I would have like an out of body experience. All right, So let's talk about it, actors um and I'm gonna I'm gonna pin you guys down a little bit on these injuries because that's gonna obviously factor into this. But let's walk through this. Do you guys think And I'm gonna throw out the names of the guys that are injuring you let me know whether you think that they're gonna play or not. Randall Cobb no, no, all right?

Uh Lyle Collins no, no all right? Uh Tyrn Smith yes? Or a half? What or a half? So he starts, yeah a little bit because he started that means he's got to be active. Amber. Uh. I don't. I don't like it, but you know it's probably a little bit. Okay, It's funny. I talk to somebody in the locker room. We were another media guy who were just talking about it, and he goes like, nah, there's no way not against

the Jets. And I was like, man, I said that about an hour ago on our show, and three people just were like, no, I can't say that they're three in two, But I still think that the Jets is part of it. If you feel like you can go win the game, you know you got an ego game coming up that's really, really, really important. I just get him, get him out there, score some points, pull him out.

You're good. I sent you my I sent you my gut feeling right before I came down to do the show, and I wrote this, and I believe it out behind quarterback, Like what apps is most likely to completely derail a football team, I think it's this team, probably really any team.

I think, like assuming that your tackle is good, I like not having good offensive tackles can also depends on how quarterback is, too, because I think there's some teams where the quarterback is so good that the losing the tackle may not be as as a drastic But you're right. On this team, yes, losing the left tackle is is a big deal. I think it's important that he plays if he can. Obvious, I mean, don't put him out

there if he can't do it. But if he can play, I think it's important that he does so we've got out of those three, you guys think maybe one plays Tyrant Layton. Yes, yeah, So you down to really two guys that are that are out due to injury. Any of the limited guys concern you, Amari Cooper, Zach Mardin, Tyrone Crawford, No, no, there, it'll be out there. So basically you're gonna fill in with the guys that are the typicals that will be missing games that have been

inactive for week games we every every week. Adam Redmond, I think, is active? Really? Why do you have to though, because you've got a wide receiver now that's probably not going to be active and you're not going to replace

him with a wide receiver. So if Amber said it, says, go out there, score some points, pull him out of the game, that sounds good, But you know, it isn't preseason where you have a lot of guys unless you put Adam Redmond active, because then now you're down to because you're saying both your tackles would be out in the second half of the game and then or whatever whatever happens, you're both year down to no tackles and then you got Connor Williams would have to come in

and you know then Redmond so well, but you got don't you have two other two guards centers that you could play, right, Okay, if Cobb's inactive, who's active now? Because somebody gets to be active, So who probably Devin Smith. Devin Smith's always act who wasn't active? Well, then Devin Smith then because that's good for your feature. Devin Smith was active last week. I'm every week at practice, we come up with what you know, just try to guess what we think it is. Today we came the list.

We came up with Cedric Wilson, Lyle Collins, Adam Redman, Joe Jackson, probably Tristan Hill again, Tyrone. If you get Antoine back, yeah, Antoine Woods is back, Luke Gifford and this one. I wonder about Donovan Wilson though, because it seems like he's doing a lot of special teams stuff. It makes sense, but it also and the thing that might happen is they would love to get Donovan Wilson up, But if Randall Copp can't play, then you probably don't

want too in active wide receivers. So if Randall Copp plays, then maybe Donovan Wilson gets up. But if he doesn't play, then I would say he probably sits. Ye. All right, let's go ahead and take our break, and when we come back, I do want to talk a little bit about the game itself. I'm gonna go around the table when I'm ask you guys each to give me one key, one key for the Cowboys to be able to get a win this week against the Jets. We'll talk about

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of you. Let's go around the table. I want you to just give me one thing, one thing alone that you think is a key, the biggest key in your mind for the Cowboys to get and win. Nick will start with first downs. You gotta get some yards on first downs. Go down, run a one yard run with Zeke, get about four or five yards, be you know, get some big plays, but don't get behind the chains. You can win this game up front if you. I mean

you can win this game on offense if you. This is the number one offense in the league going up against the worst offense in the league. So just act like it. Go out there, get some yards on first down, don't get behind the chains where you have to force it, and you should be able to score twenty eight thirty one, thirty five points. When you say don't get a one yard run from Zeke, are you saying you would opt

to not go with the run. Are you just saying they got to be better at block them, got knock them off the ball. I mean have success on first down. If you have success on first down, I think you'd play downhill and you'll kick their ass. Okay, that's what I believe. Amber Um, I pretty much agree with that. That's exactly kind of what I was going to say.

Go ahead and start off fast. Don't do what you've been doing, because even if you come back home with a win, let's say, scoring back to over thirty points doesn't matter. I mean, yes, it matters you won a game, but when you're about to face the Eagles and upcoming teams, I mean, that's the kind of problem I want to see them resolve this week. Saying first quarter, I'm saying first down, but yeah, first but if by you starting off and getting yards and so essentially, it's kind of

what you were saying too. So just go ahead and start off fast, don't wait until after the second half of the game to start scoring points and moving the chains. That's my biggest thing now. And then seeing what burmaher was, what he does in this game, him not missing anything. I regret not being here when you guys talked about him on the show because I was listening and I'm like cussing, Well, no, you know, I was just upset. But it's like I'm upset, but I'm not upset anymore

because they did that to themselves. So that's what you get. You know, when you don't bring a competition a training camp, that's what you get. I don't feel bad, even though it's upsetting, I don't feel bad anymore, or you know, even though that's a position that they say you can just bring in a guy and plug him. Writing, I don't care. You didn't bring competition. This is what you get, and I hope you learned from it. The lane sounds

like somebody's disappointed. Mom, Like, I'm not mad. I'm disappointed, right, yes, which is even worse? Yeah, oh, always, yeah, I'm I'm worried about them winning the line of scrimmage, specifically on the offensive side of the ball. The defense doesn't really worry me, you know, Antoine's back. I think the linebackers can't play much worse than they did against Green Bay, so they'll be better. The Jets offensive line is not

very good. I can't imagine them just absolutely getting gashed the way they did last week by this team, So that doesn't bother me. What worries me is, but you know, the Dallas offensive line, you might not have either starting tackle even if ty And gets out there, he's not going to be one hundred percent. They don't. The Jets don't get sacks, but they do have talent up there. We talked about that, you've got a good nose tackle who can clog things up. Leonard Williams is there. I

just worry about Dak not having time. I worry about Jamal Adams being in the box and mucking that up, and Zeke not being able to run the ball if they can win that consistently. Again, it's the run and the past. This game shouldn't be that stressful, but with the injuries, I worry that they won't be able to right. I would say, really, I think it's on defense this week.

It's all about them clearing up the problems that they've had in the past few weeks with regards to them getting in the right fits, making sure that they aren't getting out of position, that they're right where they're supposed to be. Because I think that I think by and large, the talents there, I think the calls are right. I think just what we've seen really and really more of this last game. I don't like packaging those two together because I think in the new Orleans game, they actually

played pretty well. The defense did, but I think in this last game we saw some cracks that we hadn't really seen. I hadn't really seen a lot this year where literally they're just not in the right place at the right time, and that's I think if they clean that up and they just play good sound football, I think they'll overwhelm this this Jet team, because I don't think that offense is a really good offense. I think there are ways for them to be able to shut

them down. If they can shut them down, then they're able to overcome what's happening on offense from the standpoint of guys being out with injuries. Even if they get out to a soul start again, the defense will be what holds them in this game, and then you you

kind of go from there. So I think, really this game is all about the defense and how well the defense plays and if they can get back on track to being what they were at saying in the New Orleans game, I think that would end up being against an offense like this. I think they hold this team to three or six points if they had that level

of effort that they had against the Saints. So is it cool to win by like a touch sign and a field goal when the NFL one point, when by one point, I don't, and honestly, I'm I'm never the person that's going to be like style points matter and in professional football they matter in college football because you still have to deal with poll In professional football, it does not matter. A win is a win. Loss is a loss. It's no different than saying, well, they don't

get credit because they played the Saints close. They lost. A loss is still a loss my opinion, and honestly, you know, it's debatable, but debatable it is here. It's funny for us, but not for the NFL. And how the NFL works, A wins, it wins a lot. Yeah, but when you talk about a team, okay, like the Jets, and again you can't you can't judge a team necessarily because they haven't won a single game. Things can happen in the NFL and NFL we've seen it happening happen,

But at the same time, it's the way they play. Okay, we come back here and start analyzing this whole team for a whole week and start debating whether they're good enough or not good enough, and then yeah, it matters how you win this game. Yeah for us, But that's what we're talking about. We're not talking about the standing. So because what if we just said, all right, welcome to the show, like, well they one, how it happens they won, I mean, you don't, yes, but that what

I guess the point. Maybe maybe I misunderstood the question. That doesn't matter in the grand scheme of how good this team is or how not good this team is. That matters just because it's a talking point. Right, We're gonna talk about it, and that's fine, and that's fine, and that's fine for us and fans and how we

feel about it. But at the end of the day, when it comes down to whether they're a good team or bad team, all you're gonna look at is wins and losses, right, And wins and losses will affect how you get in the playoffs, where you're seated in the playoffs, and then ultimately wins and losses determine who's going to

be the champion. Right. But okay, I think, but what we're saying is is that you win this game thirty four to seven, you go up and you play the Eagles, and you know, I think they're gonna be winning against the Eagles. You win this game twenty seven, twenty four and overtime, you're not expected to beat the Eagle. I mean like you're looking at it like how this team is playing and so yeah, it's still four and two, but at the same time, you're like, well, this is

not a good football team at all. This is a bad four and two football team. You know what's funny, though, is the ultimate example of me grading on a curve like Miami game. Absolutely, they needed to win that game by twenty plus for me to feel like they were good with the situation, with these tackles, it changes my expectation for what this game might look like completely, and I go, you know, home game against the Dolphins, I'm like, they need to win by thirty. Road game against the

Jets without maybe without hiring and Lyle Collins. I'm like, just just get through this thing, honestly, get through it and get people healthier, and I'll judge you guys getting hurt, and they will. I understand that, Like there's always going to be injuries, that's nothing new, but like maybe it's just PTSD from that twenty seventeen Atlanta game. But I'm just like, get get through this game however you can. I think they should still win pretty comfortably. But my

expectations are totally different than the Miami game. I guess I just look at it like they're they're always in the NFL, even in college football, they're always going to be weeks win teams just for whatever reason can't quite get going. And when you have those kind of situations, to me, what shows a really good team is those teams that even when it's not working out for them, like they are just they're beating their heads against a brick wall, they still find a way to win. And

that's why I'm I'm still a big believer. And if you get the win, honestly, it really doesn't matter at the end of the day. You found a way, even on a bad day, to get a win. It's the bad teams that on a bad day end up losing to a bad team, right. Yeah. I think what we're saying, or at least what I'm saying, is is that your expectations of this team and where they're gonna go can change on how they play the game. Yeah, that's so

we're kind of agreeing. Yeah, we're talking. We're probably talking semantic. Okay at the end of the day, Yes, but how did you get that win? Does for us? Not well? Sam Donald? Sam Donald? Sam Donald does what Aaron Rodgers did. I think everybody's going to be concerned about. Okay, this guy just you know, carved him up a little bit his defense. But have we seen enough of Donald to know what he is right now? I mean that we have. I mean he's a second third year player. I mean

that's the point. I mean, he hasn't played enough to be carving you up like that. He shouldn't, you know, for you, for you to be as good as this hot boys and all that stuff, and you know, and they're still saying but they're still doing stuff though. I mean they should, that should be suspended right now, but they're not. They're still doing boys for sure. And I'm just saying if if if Donald goes out there, and like, we're all going to be a little concerned by that,

because it's like it's Aaron Rodgers. He's a magician too. Honestly, I already am just a little bit concerned about that offense because I just don't know what to expect from them.

They have a running back that they haven't really been able to realize what he can be because he had they've had funk out there, Like they have not had a quarterback for these last few weeks, soa eight points when they had him and get it, say, I don't know, I don't know, And so for me, it makes me a little a little uneasy as to what they're gonna be. If like I'm I'll just give you my prediction, like I'm expecting kind of an ugly, sloppy like I think

Dack will make some plays. I think it's gonna be a grind it out type of running day. I think they'll pull away. I said twenty seven thirteen. I could see twenty seven ninees just kind of like a convincing win, but just kind of gross. But if I mean, I'm I agree with Nick that like that wouldn't bother me because I'm like, oh, you didn't have your tackles blah

blah blah blah blah. But like if they win thirty eight to thirty five and it's just offenses zipping up and down the field, then I'm concerned because this offense just should not be able to do that to this defense. If they're as good as they're supposed to be, okay, And I don't think that'll all right, and I have twenty eight thirteen, so I haven't. Maybe y'all given this point, now I got Brett Maher going two for two, maybe let's go. Maybe it's that you guys would give him

more credit to the defense than I am. Like right now, I don't know what this defense is. I don't know they're startingly that as good as they were last Yeah, but I don't know what they are. It's really more me saying I just don't think the Jets are worth a damn on offense. That's really all it is. Yeah, not I mean the defense. We'll see, we'll get a great look at what they are against Philly, But I just don't think the Jets should be able to do

that to him. When you start talking about which side of the ball is playing better or whatever, I still go back to that Saints game and what the Cowboys defense was able to do, containing them to only what was it, twelve points? So I mean that's why my main concern is still the offense and what they're doing the fact that my expectations, at least for last week having Michael Gallop back, I thought, okay, well, maybe he was a missing piece that was needed to make the

offense click again, and that didn't happen. And I understand Tyron wasn't a part of the old line and all that, but I don't know. I am concerned about the receivers a little bit. I think that they should rely on more. Huh. No, I don't know what I was thinking. I was thinking of the score in my mind. No, I'm just saying I think they should rely a little more on Zeke just because I don't feel that Michael Gallub is a hun just yet. And then played awesome last week. Where's

this hundred yards? But it's still it didn't seem it didn't seem like I've been watching him from the past, you know, like it just to me, it wasn't what I'm used to seeing from him. Respectfully, I disagree pretty hard like I thought. I think the passing game is the strength of this team right now. I mean, if not for turnovers. Well, it got to the fourth quarter for them to start doing something, but I mean that's the at the end of the day, that's the problem.

So real quick asking to answer this question, which one's been better. If you look at all five games, has often been better. The defense been better, offense, offense has been great. I think it's a no brain of the offense has offen times. You don't think so because we're we are using that comparing it when we talked about those three first games, and it's like, yeah, they did great,

but look at who they were playing. Yeah, but this last game, the offense had a slow start, but the offense still ended up at some point they got on a role. And I know that. I know you can say that the defense, that the Packers defense may have loosened up a little bit. I don't think they loosened up enough to just like they were scoring, scoring, scoring,

Like I just think the offense. Yeah, they played a bad first half, they came back around and that looked more like what we'd seen for most of the season defense. And we said this this week, the defense has not played a quarterback that has won a game this year, and they still haven't with it Sam Darnold. So I mean, well, beaten one, you mean because I haven't beaten Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

that's what that's one again. Yeah, I mean quarterback that Packers secondary was third in the league and yards allowed going into that game, and they put up any bad and the way and not even that. In the first half. They were making mistakes, but they were moving the ball. There was no doubt they were moving the ball. I mean, we were saying in the press box they basically can take whatever they want with the MARII like they couldn't hold him from the beginning of the game, Like he

was wide open. He was completely losing his guy almost every time you saw him downfield. So I don't think I think I think it's clear the offense has been better. I just think that, you know, I think I think the defense is not as good as it was last year. I'm still trying to question how good are they going to be. Are they going to grow into being closer to that or is it going to be closer to what which so far, To go back to my point, that's I'm like, get through this game, win it because

you need it in the standings, blah blah blah. However, you win it out whatever, get some guys healthy, and then we get another chance to see what they're really about against what I mean I think is always was a very good Eagles team. Like people are trying to overreact to a couple early season struggles from them, Like I don't think they're going anywhere, so big big test a week from now. I just I just want, just want to get this game out of the way, all right,

Assuming they win it, we will figure it. We don't want to come into work. If they don't do I have to be here on Monday. If they don't don't want to do it, that either. We'll be back on Monday to tell you guys what went right and what went wrong for the Cowboys is Sunday at three thirty they'll take on the New York Jets in New Jersey. Till then for Nick Eatman, Dave Helmet, Amergarcia, I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot

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