Cowboys Break: Is Help on the Way?

from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We've got a lot of stuff to get into today. Yesterday was pretty explosive. Today may not be as explosive, but it'll be a day for some perspective. I think. I think today will be the day when, instead of jumping off the ledge, we will give you the reasons why maybe you shouldn't jump off the ledge and give some perspective to what you're seeing so far this season through five games where we export Oh, it was definitely, it was.

It was pretty It was definitely explosives. Talking cowboys. Cowboys. That's because we all like each other and we get along. Talking cowboys gets contentious about whether or not it's raining outside, Like that's that's nothing new. Like we we disagree, but we disagree friendly, like we we're friends. We can have a discussion that we disagree, Right, So let's get into it. Um. I guess the first thing I want to get to today is just talk a little bit about this NFC East.

I mentioned it yesterday, um and as and I know Dave doesn't like this conversation because as bad as the Cowboys are, I don't think you like even mentioning the

fact of where they sit in a bad division. But right now they are only half a game out of first place, UM in the NFC East right now watching US two and two after they get blasted last night, which I don't know that anybody couldn't have seen that coming to some degree when when Brady's I mean when when Breeze is going for this record and and they're at home in New Orleans, just everything about that, as they were talking about in the pregame, I'm like, this

has a beat down written all over it, and that's exactly what they got last night. But it was cool to see Drew Brees get that record. That was really cool. Yeah. No, I mean I covered the Cowboys. I don't really. I don't know very much about the Saints anymore, but you know, I turned it on and I grew up watching Drew Brees. It was super I mean I got a little emotional watching him do it was cool. Yeah, a little missed it. I mean, he's the most important athlete in New Orleans history.

And I know it's I said this on Twitter last night, like, I know it's cheesy, but he really does mean a lot to that city in a very non sports way. So yeah, it was cool. I mean it's weird to think that like one of the you know, handful of greatest quarterbacks ever to play is came from the Saints. I mean, we don't think of the Saints as a laughing stock anymore because of him, which we certainly did. We certainly they certainly were for a long time. So it was cool. The moment with his son at Sons,

I thought was pretty cool. That was that was pretty emotional, just having that that opportunity to see him with his sons during that time. But going back to the NFC, East Washington loses last night. They're two and two and two Cowboys at two and three are sitting in second place,

tied with the Eagles, but one game. I guess they have the tie break over them at this point because they did win one division game against the Giants, and nobody's any good I'm not trying to right, and then the Giants are at one and four laying I know. One point is that you know the two and three two into whatever, Like nobody's really running away with anybody. Like nobody looks to be explosive on any side of the ball. I think Washington's offense is Washington looks a

lot like Dallas to me with their offense. You know that they just don't have a lot of explosive players there. Their defense looks pretty aggressive, but they definitely got burned last night. But like you said, that was kind of a hornessness that they were walking into there. There was no way that Drew Brees and Sean Payton weren't going to get that job done. I don't know who number ten is, but he looks like he's gonna be a

problem for a while. Trey Kwon Smith or see from us you see f he's a third round pick, which third picks abounds doing third round picks don't make me. Hey, they don't have Drew Brees. I guarantee if Michael Gallup was streaping streaking down the sideline without a defender within twenty yards of thinking, that's a touchdown for him too. Oh my god, that was ridiculous. But you look at this entire division, it's pretty bad. I mean, you look

at this relative to the other division. It's the only division in football right now that doesn't have a team with a winning record. The top team in the division is at five hundred and uh and you look at just a total number of wins. I think they're two games, two wins less than the next closest team. Right now, the NFC East looks pretty bad. Yeah, I mean I think he's still got to worry about the Eagles. I mean they're gonna you know, Carson Wentz, he'll eventually I think,

be okay ast a running back season. Well okay, well the other three running backs they got a few, and you know, I think and sorry I did hear that room up? Go ahead, yeah, Nick, nick Foles. I mean, it's it's no different than anybody else. I mean, just like Dak and these other guys, these defensive cord I mean, they are what they are for a reason they can you know, hit, I can straight gold for a little bit and get hot and all that, But for the

most part of mean, he is what he is. And so I think Philadelphia Wentz they play with Wins, I think they'll be the team to beat. Here's one thing I do wonder though, and we've seen this happen before with this teaming with other teams. You change the coach, you change the guy who's making the calls, and sometimes things change up. Frank Ryk, who was calling their offensive plays last year now the head coach in the Indianapolis Colts. How much does that affect Wins and the monster run

he was on last year? How much does that affect him? I know Dave Peterson's I mean, I'm sorry David Doug Peterson really good coach and obviously a good offensive mind. But I wonder how much that can that can affect him. And don't forget either that the Filippo, the guy who calls the plays in Minnesota, now was his quarterbacks coach. So good point. Both of the guys that had their hands on him the most are gone. And I agree with Nick, I think Wins is going to be fine.

I would still give Philly the nod as the team to beat. But also, like, the thing that troubles me with them is not wins because he's coming back off in ACL. It's their defense. Honestly, that's classic Super Bowl hangover is you know, you let Vinnie Curry go, you let um Who else did they kick off of that line? I know they let I think two of them are

in Tampa now. I can't remember Vinny Curry's going. They did relace, Yeah, no, they did, but it new pieces and then Rodney McLoud goes down with an injury, and their secondary all of a sudden looks like it sucks. Jalen Mills is having his struggles. Malcolm Jenkins is a good player, but he can't do it all himself. So there appear to be some really serious flaws there. Like I would guess they'll probably get it together, but they've already lost as many games as they did all of

last season. And you know, the Giants are, uh, they're interesting because you know, they went to Carolina and they put up some points there late in the game of me lost pretty well three yard field goal. I mean, like, you know, they good enough to win, They've got issues in locker room obviously with with Odell and talking and all that kind of stuff. But I think they're gm. I mean, I think that the front office is starting to figure it out because they decided to part ways

with Eric Flower. So that makes me think that, you know what, they're actually getting it there, because I don't now they do think they can get a trade for it. No, I think they were just putting it out there like, hey, by the way, we're cutting this guy. Anybody wants him, I don't care if anybody wants him, just let us know. Otherwise we're cutting him. Yeah, who's gonna say, oh, I'll take that. Oh? I don't know, But I think that

was kind of there. That was kind of their last dit Jefford, just to say, yeah, we're making this move. If anybody should happen to want him, it's anyone jumping onto the mailbag with that, because any anybody that gets put out there, they say, hey, what about the Cowboys? Did anyone do that? But Brian was giving me crap about it this morning, like I'm not the mailbag guy anymore. Rob's been doing it this season, And Brian was like, you haven't even looked in the mail bag this year,

have you? And I was like, no, Rob's on top of it. Ware you go Rob so nice him And you came back and said, that's because I'm reading your st Yeah. I was like, I was like, I do plenty of stuff, Like I'm sorry that I'm not doing the mail bag. Brian just loves to find ways to needle me about things. One other questions about the East. You think any chance that the Redskins at the end of the season are going to be at the top

of this division? I mean the only team I don't think the Giants will be at the top of the division. Everybody else I could see, which it's weird. That's what I was gonna say is I got to readjust my mindset because from Okay, the Cowboys were great in OH seven, and then the Giants won the Super Bowl, and then the Giants were like pretty good in O eight, but

not as good as they should have been. Probably the same goes for the Cowboys, obviously, but then from like two thousand and nine to thirteen, you were just trading one team having decent season and everybody else kind of sucking. And then from eleven to thirteen it was everybody sucked I mean, this makes I said this last night on Twitter. It reminds me of twenty thirteen. Cowboys were trading wins and losses and they didn't look very good, but it

was like, well, who who else is any good? Like everybody else sucks too, so they're gonna beat each other up. Which but then from fourteen to seventeen it wasn't like that because the Cowboys were great in fourteen, they were terrible in fifteen, so we weren't even talking about this. They were great in sixteen, and the Eagles started nine and one last year, so you haven't had this problem where there wasn't a good team. But fifteen was very similar to this. As bad as the Cowboys were that year,

they weren't out of it. They weren't very end who won it and which, which I think they wanted at like nine and seven though, like they weren't great. I just looked at that, at that offense, I just I just don't see the guys there that all. You know, obviously they have holes in defense because they got you know, they got put up forty something points on them last night, But I just don't think their offense is going to

be good enough to like win a bunch of games. Um, you know, they don't really know what they're doing and running back seems like and think different guys and receivers. Nobody really scares you there, And I think I agree with you, but I'm not ready to rule them out. I mean, no, no, And they've you know, they beat the Packers, not in the Packers look surprisingly bad too, So maybe that's not this amazing win. But we'll see. These division games will come down and it'll be interesting.

There's a lot of Division football games to be played. I mean, am I wrong by saying that it's just Dallas and the Giants. Has anybody else played within the division? I don't think so. But I think Eagles and Me play the Giants on Thursday night. Thursday night. I mean, and I think when you when you break it down at the end of the year, I think the teams that are going to be the division that's going to be one of the best in football, I think is going to be the AFC South. I do think Jacksonville

will be there. Tennessee looks pretty good. They've kind of taken Aldle step back. Well, Houston's yeah, that's truly lost to the Bills in Houston. I think he's actually moving up'll do it, um, you know, I'm just saying. And they have faced them a lot. This division has faced that division a lot this first month. I think the NFCS North is going to be the toughest division when it's awesome. Thing. Wow, we all disagree. I think the

NFC North really yeah. I mean, the Bears are the hottest team in football, or well, the Chiefs, but the Bears are hot. The Packers have Rogers. I don't as long as they got them out. Yeah, and then the Vikings are stacked so and the and the Lions are not a pushover they never will be. I kind of agree with that. But I think just because the Browns are now actually playing decent football, I think you could say the same thing across the board about the AF.

The Bengals look really good. Wait, I mean really, is the the NFC East one of the two or three worst divisions of football? Maybe the worst? I mean, I'm having other than maybe if you want to put the NFC South in there. NFC South is having gets struggles. Outside of the Rams, they really got nothing. Sorry interesting West, I'm sorry NFC West. If unless other than the Rams. They really got nothing else on another team of the winning record that I would throw the AFC East in there.

They've been they have the best team in football, but they've been garbage for twenty years, Like that same team in that division is any good? And that's the thing about it is right now everybody can just get their ass kicked. Everybody can you who's the best team in football? The paid tricks is that? Who? Just? Well I meant over the last year and I agree with you one d percent. That's who I thought you were talking about.

Two the same team. They got wrecked by the Lions, and you know, and the Vikings look pretty good, but the Bills smashed them. And you know, everybody's kind of had one. And then is it this week that the Chiefs and Rams play? No, it's next month, next month. Oh that's in Mexico. Yeah, yep, I thought I just saw a promo for it. I didn't know if it

was this coming up or not. Unless you're a Chiefs, Rams or maybe Bengals fan, you don't have a And well, the Bears, because they've been they've played so much beingles are gonna disappoint. They're gonna disappoint them why. I mean, Andy Dalton is why he's playing great. Okay, I'm just saying they won. They've won that division like three out of the last five. It's the playoffs where they have

their struggles. They do something. They not saying they're gonna win a play about some things in a regular season. I agree with you on that. I just don't. You just don't like him. No, I don't dislike him. I just don't ahead he come from any get no, where'd he come from? Where did he come from? I think he's from Rockwall. No, where'd you go to college? I don't know. Not a fan. I think that has a little bit. I just know it doesn't that not that point Amber pointed this out last. I mean, you gotta

you can't. You can't use those preconceived notions in an NFL season because you said that about the Eagles last year and they went thirteen and three and won Super Bowl. Right, let's put it. Let's put it out there. What the Bengals, I mean, it's they're probably. I mean they already have four wins. They're a ten win team, and that's that'll get you to the playoffs. I don't know if that want, you just see what happens at that point, right, you

get to playoffs. Well, they be in the AFC Championship. I doubt it. I doubt it. But and that's just based on history sittings. That's just me taking the field, like, yeah, right, who the hell knows. But the thing about that is is that they they play in probably the most physical division. I mean, the Ravens, the Browns have gotten their defenses really well. Yeah, and the Steelers, of course, it is tough to to do anything really from that division just

because they be each other up. So I just history tells me that the Bengals probably won't sustain it. But we're gonna take our first break when we come back. We're gonna talk number one wide receiver Jerry and Stevens certainly have and they had some interesting things to say. We'll let when we come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. If you're like me and you love, I mean, if you have a thing, then cutting the

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studios at the Star. We're gonna talk a little bit about receivers. Number one wide receivers to be exact yesterday Nick, you had an interview that you did with Steven. We're gonna play a clip from that. But also this morning on one on five dot three of the fan here in Dallas, Jerry had his morning talk with the guys over there and they were asked and Jerry was talking about the wide receiver position and basically said, the Cowboys haven't had a number one receiver for a couple of years,

a few years. Let's listen to that quote that you and Steven had though, because I want to I want to dive into this conversation after we hear that there's not a silver bullet here. We've got to go to work. There's no number one receivers laying around on the street out there, so we've just got to get to work. And give us the context of that Nick you were

doing the interview I had asked him. I said, you know, we talked about number one receivers all off season and that the thought was that you could get this done by committee. After seeing the first five games and seeing what Houston's number one receiver did single handedly, do you still feel like you know that you don't have a number one you need one? And he basically said doesn't matter because there's not one out there. And I think

everybody knows exactly. I mean, if you're reading between the lines, everyone knows what that means and what he's saying. I don't even know your name, but they forgot it. I think they have forgotten his name now or they don't want to. I mean, basically, and let's go with what's what Jerry said too, I mean, and help us out with that. But I mean they're basically saying Dez Bryant is not going to fix this problem. He is not a number one receiver. So don't don't bring up that.

But do you have you have Jerry's quote written down? Um, I don't have the exact quote. It was Cowboys haven't had a true number one bide receiver in years. That was part of the quote. I actually, so that's you know, I mean that for them, that's the gist of it, Yeah,

saying he's talking about yeah, and here's the deal. And I went back and obviously you hear that, and at first you raise your eyebrows, but really, if you go back and you look at the numbers all the way back until probably twenty fourteen or not, probably two thousand and fourteen was the last time Dez had numbers that reflected a true number one wide receiver. I'm talking about in the top ten in categories. Did the math receiving and and and touchdowns and yards. I did the math

when I wrote the story about Jerry's comments. Over the three years after he signed his seventy million dollars deal after the fourteen season and the three years after that, he averaged fifty catches for six hundred and seventy eight yards and six touchdowns per year, which those are great numbers if you're not on a seventy million dollar contract. Yep.

So I mean that's I kind of look at it like, and you know, further, I would have loved to have seen them negotiate something with Dez where they brought his number down and kept him here. I think he would probably still be the best receiver on this offense. But yeah, that that it didn't raise my eyebrows that much because I was like, well, yeah, like, obviously they feel that way. They cut him when and his numbers bear it out too.

Were what year was it. We sat there and we did the interview in his in Jerry's office, and they signed him to the extension. When was that It was the summer of fifteen, Okay, the summer of fifteen, So fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen, yes, so he said for the last three years, so they he didn't specify years several years I was playing out. Those three years have been the three years that his numbers didn't reflect him being a number one receiver.

Then you know what, You know that they paid him the money to be an elite player, and you know they they've gotten in trouble with this way back in the late nineties of paying players for what they have done and not for what they were projected to do. And maybe they did project him to bed. No, I can't, I can't go there, I and I've I've said this before.

They signed Dez Bryant to a five year deal thinking that he'd play most of, if not all, of that with Tony Romo, and he played two more games with him, Like straight up, I mean, and I mean, there's no way to say this without sounding like yours bashing Dak, which that's not my intention, But I think des Bryant would probably still be on this team if Tony Romo was the quarterback. I think if you put Dez Bryant on a team like the Saints, he might not be.

He probably has dropped a couple notches from the Odell's and the Abs and the Julios of the world. But he would be a much more productive receiver with a quarterback like that who can do whatever he wants to than he would be on this team. And that's the point. That's, honestly, the point that I'm trying to I've been trying to make with regards to Dez Bryant is it's not that Dez is no longer can no longer be a productive player.

It's that under the current circumstance with the quarterback that you have, and what we've seen since he's been with that quarterback is he's not that elite kind of receiver. And guess what, the quarterback isn't going anywhere. So if you have him here, you're gonna be paying him elite money to give you pedestrian production. And it's not worth it. It's not worth having that guy in the building when

you're doing that. And I'm not trying to sound smartie, but I feel like we covered all of this in the offseason, like this isn't new information. And that's I hate it so much. But the phrase Dak friendly is basically Dez at this point last season had two hundred and something yards on like fifty targets. Like to get him involved the way you want to in this offense with this quarterback, you just got to target him fifteen times a game. And that's not in their best interests.

So they so they got rid of him, I mean basically. And I on it, like I said, I don't know that it was like this terrible blunder because I think if Dez Bryant was here, it would look awfully similar. Well, let me ask you this question. Go ahead. Well, I just think that it's hard to just go back and say we covered this in the off season because the offseason you expected, or at least you know, there was

some hope from this team that the receivers. Right now, after five games, it's like, well, now let's revisit this. How bad was it? Because these guys aren't aren't making plays for you either, you know, And so the negative plays that you saw from Dez last year, you know, drop passes that led to an interception in Denver and things like that. You saw that kind of stuff, and You're like, Wow, that's a that's that's not great. These guys are doing it here without really making some des

was making some plays for both teams. But I mean, like Deontay Thompsons is not making a play for you know, for the Cowboys at all. I'm not sure Deontay Thompsons the one that's kind of weird here because what is he He's a four two guy that can run. So when if we seen him run down the field, no, we see him run like I mean, passes over the middle and that Carolina, they put all of their eggs

in that basket. That he who hadn't practiced most training camp, and he got cut earlier and comes back and a fourth and ten or whatever runs an out that the timing is going to be perfect between him and I mean, and that lost the game for him or that was the last play there, and then he had a couple of I just don't understand why they're trying to make this guy into a wide receiver when he's never been. When he's never been, I mean, he's a speed guy

and they're not using them that way. They're trying to use him as a possession guy. And I think his hands are as good as ours well. But that's also the problem when you don't have when you're kind of throwing everybody into one mosh pit and saying we'll just kind of use them all rather than having guys like I got a guy that I know can stretch the field, I got a guy that I know runs great routes

that can move the chains. Like there, I don't think they have, or at least it doesn't seem like they may. It doesn't seem like they have really well defined roles on what guys do well and getting him in them in those situations most frequently. And that was fine in the spring. It was actually it was kind of exciting in the spring to be like, oh, like all ten of these guys are doing a little bit of everything, like they're really gonna try to see who does what

the best. But like we're still kind of doing that in October, which they've you know, they've tightened up the rotation a little bit. I would guess I don't have the snap counts in my head, but I think it's a little more defined than it was. But yeah, still like again for the like Alan Hearns seems like he would be your best possession receiver. They don't. They use him that way, but not enough in my opinion. They don't use Tavon to his strengths. They haven't been using

Deonte to his strengths. And you're quite frank the same thing with Cole Like, I don't think. I think that that when you're on that fourth and one, that third and one him on a flare route, you're probably going to have a good shot of completing that. I I know you guys Joe groan and called me the implier. I'm not implying anything here. I'm saying everything. I'm saying everything that I know. I think the Cowboys will get a wide receiver in here in the next Cup a

week or two that we have heard of. This won't be Dez Bryant, but it'll be somebody that they're going to try to bring in here. And that's all that I know would be available. I mean, I'm just saying there could be you could sign someone, you could try to trade for someone. I don't think it'll be anybody that's significant. I don't think anyone that will really really help. I do think they will try to do something. You can't keep going with this Again, I'm not implying that's

all that I know. That's what I think is going to happen in the next I would say week to ten days, I'd be kind of shocked because I think, well, if they bring in trying not get it, but if they're bringing in more of the same, it just clouds it even further. I would I would maybe go if I were them, I may go the route of saying, tighten up my rotation even more, figure out the guys that I really want to use on specific roles and focus on using them in that role versus bringing another

guy and throwing them in the mix. And I just got one more guy that's doing what everybody else is doing. If anybody, I'm sorry, anybody got kind of like excited about that comment that I just may just remember the last ten days, they also brought in a receiver that you've heard of before and he's done absolutely nothing, So that doesn't mean anything. They brought in Bryce Butler. I'm saying it could be something like that. Heck they need to use. If they're gonna do that, they probably do

better off just using Butler. If they're gonna bring somebody else in, that's probably the same ilk right. I don't know. If they want to give Bryce a shot, that would be great. Otherwise, like, if they're not gonna change anything, I would lean on Beasley. Hearns t well Tavon as the way Tavon should be used, not not sending him down the field to catch twenty yard routes like Tavon. Use Tavon the way that the Texans use Kiki qt like it. It doesn't seem like it should be that hard.

Um I was gonna say, Gallop, I don't love saying that because I mean, you want to go to bat for the draft pick. But he has done he has done something to indicate that he's not ready for this in basically every game. So maybe Bryce. Yeah, Um, I'm gonna I'm I need to ask around. I haven't, but we're getting We're coming up on when Noah Brown can start practicing, not playing, but after Actually I think maybe he could practice this week if they wanted him too.

I don't. I don't know, Like I said, I don't know if they have any intention of bringing him back. If you do that, that's one of your IR spots that you can't use anymore. So can I answer that question because I have asked around yeout that for the answer is yes, they are intending on bringing him back. Right there you go. I would love to see that another case for your pre show meetings. Dare mmm, No, I like we hash it out. Yeah, sure, bro's talking.

I mean, we don't say and talk about Noah Brown all the time, but ye had since it came up. I do. I do think that he's a guy that they are they would look to bring back here at some point. I would. I would love to see it. I was impressed with him as a rookie, and nobody else is making their case. So yeah, it's true. Noone's running away from Yeah you're not like, well, well let's give no a little more time, because these guys that's why to me, that's why Rico is here, you know,

none of the anything. Yeah, all right, we're gonna take our final break when come back, I'm gonna ask these guys the question is the threat of a guy at wide receiver that can make a big play just as good as the production, or at least comparable to the production, then when we come right back. This is Dallascowboys dot Com Radio. While a player can look good on paper, it's when he's out on the field that you really

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John dot Com Forward Slash Cowboys. Oh yeah, let's get into it underwear. I had a question for you guys right before the break. We're talking about the wide receiver position,

particularly talking about number one wide receivers. I had a fan on Twitter before the show bring up what I thought was a very valid point, or at least a point that was worth discussion, which is last year, despite what you thought about the production from Dez Bryant, despite what you thought about the production from from Jason Witten, the fact is, when Jason Witten and Des Bryan are on your offense, defenses have to account for them because if they don't account for them, they can make them

look silly. Right Is that a situation or should that be something that should be considered here when you talk about, hey, the Cowboys really don't need a number one. Does the threat of having a Dez Bryan out there, even if he's not a true number one, just the threat of the damage that he can do, is that enough to still need to have him on a team like this one.

I think there's there's a couple of ways to look at that one, like, yeah, yeah, they miss him in the sense that they are good veteran players who you can typically count on to do what they're supposed to, Like Jason Witten is gonna be there. He's gonna probably figure out a way to get open more often than not. Dez Bryant can still do des Bryant things. Nick brings up the slant against the Giants all the time. You

have to cover him. But to go back to Jerry Jones's point, it's been a long time since I remember, I think it was fourteen. The count went like first time we really thought those Cowboys were a good team. They smashed the Saints here in at and T like week four. I think like literally, the Saints put two corners on him, and I'm not talking about like rolling a guy over the top, like literally they had two guys. Yeah, and Dads was literally standing on the sideline like are

y'all kidding me right now? Or I mean not this. He was standing in place in the formation like okay, Like nobody was covering Dads like that in the last two years. So he's not to get that kind of a team. You got to account for him. And he has a track record that makes him more dangerous than any of these guys, but he's he's not He wasn't

that guy in recent memory. I mean, you know the thing about it is it reminds me of like the last You're probably too young for this, but you know the last I don't know, five or ten years of Mike Tyson. You know, it's like he wasn't what he was, but you're always worried about it. Why because he could. He could knock you out with punch. He's got that, And I think that's kind of what's happened here with

Dez in a little bit. It's like, yeah, you're not the same, and you don't have to cover him the same, but you got to be careful with that. And it's not just about Dez, it's about it's about Tavon as well. Look back to the first game or this last game. A couple of plays they had to touchdown and even the shovel pass that on third down that was important. It got him in there. Fake to Tavon, shovel to to Zeke, fake to Tavon and Zeke throw it to

Herns in the end zone. You can keep faking it all day, but at some point, you know, so the threat of not having the ball, it sounds good, but you do have to show him every once in a while. So, um, that's a good question. You do have to show him that we can hurt you and then use that against them. And honestly, that's the part I think that would hurt this argument is I don't think enough times last year

Dez actually hurt the opposing team. Now, there were a couple, but I don't think it happened frequently and frequently enough where teams wouldn't still walk into a game with the Cowboys this year and say the exact same thing they're saying right now, which is, if you're gonna beat this team. You gotta stop Zeke. Dez is one thing, and we'll deal with him. We could probably put one guy on him,

and we will. We will be okay if we let if he gets a big play on us, Like we're okay with the idea he might get a big play on us. Well, we can't let we can't let get off is Zeke. And I think that's that doesn't change. That doesn't change where the Dez is on the team or not. And that I mean, you know, I worry about sounding like a homer, but like we saw Dez do so much of the stuff we're seeing right now.

You brought up the Denver game, the Seattle game last Year's burned into my brain forever, like, and he made some play and he would probably still be the best receiver on this team if he was here, but he left a lot of stuff out there. I mean, you can blame Dak if you want to. I'm lean more toward thinking that if you make twelve million dollars a year to play receiver, you should have a DeAndre Hopkins. Those balls were not all accurate, and he mean, he's

got a fifty foot catch radius. It doesn't matter where it is he's going to bring it in. You know, that's what you're paying twelve million dollars a year for. Right. The thing about that is is that he keep going back to that statement that I agree with and Dave agrees because he just said it. I don't know if you do, but that Dez would be the best receiver

on the team if he was here. Think about any other football team in the league, and any other position other than maybe kicker, I don't know where else could you say if I signed this guy off the street, he would be better than anyone else that I have for all the problems of well, what he is in the locker room and all that. That's a that's a statement that's needs I think needs to be addressed like no one No other team can say that no other position.

You could say, there's nobody out there that would be the best of all of that, but he would be. My question back to you, when you're saying that, you're speaking purely from the point standpoint of just raw skill as a receiver. You're saying he'd be the best one. Now, let's factor in the other reasons, because there were other reasons why he's not on this team. When you factor in those other reasons, is his ability that much greater to where it's worth saying have him put him on

this team? That's the issue well ahead any other team in any For any other team they had, they'd have to deal with the part of Des learning the offense and all that. I mean, so you got a guy that would be talent wise, raw talent, like you said, better than anyone you have. It's got more experience in production than anyone else that you have. He's got an understanding of the offense. May not be better than anyone else you have, but he does have an understanding of

the offense. And you know, I but don't you think being cut and being on the street no one's signing you. I mean, do you think that would change anything? Humble him at all? Did not? I don't know. Do you think it doesn't feel like he doesn't seem like Twitter activity does not indicate that it has um which the other thing for me is okay, all of that is very all of that is very important, and for how

good his relationship with Jerry Jones is. I'm sure Des has burned several bridges in this building, in the locker room and out of the locker room. But my thing is,

what how big is the difference in production? Really? Like honestly, I mean that because like Dez would definitely be leading this team in catches and yards probably, I think he'd also be far and away leading in targets because we saw it last year's Like, even though he is a complimentary player in this offense, at this point in time, you have to plan for him, like he's a premier guy. Like that's what they did. He had forty targets through

four games. That's why they did this. Is that Michael Gallup isn't gonna say bup if he gets two targets in the game. He's a rookie. Deontay Thompson is not going to raise a stink about getting five targets in the game because that's probably a career high for it. They're getting there. One, there's one guy that's ye're saying, they're they're getting there because everybody, well, what they're what what it sounds like they're doing. It sounds like they're

just saying it's not us, that's that's what. It's not so much give me the ball as much as they're saying, hey, everybody out there is trying to point the finger at us. It ain't us. That's what I'm here rich from there. It's it is, but that's not. That's at least what I think they're saying is it's not it's everything. It's everything. It's everything talking great, but they're not getting open. But that's why I say yesterday, there's only one of all

that we're talking about. There's only one or two positions that our expectations were different than what we're seeing right now, and that's offensive line and running back. That's the we had high expectations for. It's as easily needs to be the number three receiver on this team, and he's not. He's the number one receiver, and that's the problem. He needs to be number three. He needs to be the

guy that's the mismatch guy. But if teams want to take him out of the game, they'll take him out of the game and then leaving you with what that's that's to me, that's I mean, that's what they've they've committed themselves to what we're gonna do when all else fails, we fall back on our running it. Yeah, that's what they've committed to. It's funny, because I mean, it's it's the it's a tale as old as time this league.

Every damn near every team in the league thinks it has a shot at the playoffs when the season starts. That's what's great about it. But so damn near every team in the league feels really good about what they did in the offseason, which in some cases it has worked out, Like the linebacker situation has worked out perfectly with the way they planned it out, even it hadn't been great. But safety has not sunk this team yet. You could say the same thing about their defensive front.

But having said all of that, they are currently getting a big f for how that they decided to approach wide receiver, like none of the stuff that they thought would happen, like we think we think Michael Gallup, we think Alan Hearns will do this with you know, Diante, he worked with sanjt Like none of it's working in we think he can be this and and doctorserve some blame in that too, for that matter, because these are supposed to be guys tailored to what he wants to

do and they might not be getting open. They certainly aren't getting open all the time, but he's missing throws as well when he's having those opportunities. I just thought about something, have you guys, Has anybody asked the question what happened to the whole concept of Tavon being a web back. I don't think I've seen him line up in the backfield at all. I don't like, I don't care where he lies. I'm what I take some offense to that because I've been yelling about it all season long.

They're not using him the way that he seems like he is screaming to be used. My point was that was what was said on draft Day, and that's what they talked about there at the beginning, is that you look at how the Rams were using him last year. Year. They lined him up in the backfield a lot. I mean, he was getting carries quite a bit, probably more of a ball carrier than just a receiver for the Rams

last year. So my expectation from what they said was that he was going to be a guy that was going to have the ball in his hands more frequently as a as a runner, just as a runner. So whether that's a bubble screen, whether that's a handoff, they were gonna find ways just get the ball in his hand. That's not necessarily as a receiver, because they made a

point of saying web back versus wide receiver. At what point did that change and if so, why are they not Did they decide to do that versus using him more in that role? I know my question. I don't care if he ever takes a single handoff out of the backfield. But Josh Norris, who's a fantasy football guru, I quote tweeted this last night. Key Key Qt's average depth of target of five yards is the lowest of any wide receiver in the league with twenty plus targets.

You can spend it in a positive way because he's got twenty two targets in just two games. Again, that's what I said when we were previewing him last week. He never touches the ball all more than five six yards down field. He's still a crucial component of their offense, which is my point. No, but I don't care if Tavon's lining up at running back. Just get him the ball in shallow space where he doesn't have to make

this amazing grab to get the ball. Same thing. Yeah, No, we are, we are, but it's something I've been harping on and will continue to harp on because I don't understand it right, and I would be interested to see what coaches have to say about that, seeing as though that seemed like that was the plan when he came in. Um and not to say this is the end all be all, but it was funny because even on like ESPN, on their fantasy game, he is listed as a running back,

not as a wide receiver. If I had to guess, they will give an answer that suggests that we're stupid for suggesting it. I know they suggested it. Like they'll say something that's like, well, you don't understand, but here's why that's I'll I'll try to get a question in for you. Let's see how goes. All right, appreciate you guys, Jonas. We'll back tomorrow. We're gonna get you guys ready for Cowboys versus Jaguars. I have this again tonight. Yeah yeah, you guys are in the area, come check us out.

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