Cowboys Break: Interested in OBJ?

of The Break Life, s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, we're presented by mill of Light, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. We are. We've got Nick Eatman, We've got Isaiah stand Back here joining us today. It is not still our mix up week, so don't get that in your head. We just got a couple of people out. Brian nursing a lowell little head cole flu something like that. Not feeling great. Yeah it is. I know a lot of people who've had it and it don't sound like

as good. Like good luck trying to get into the doctor's office. Yeah, I know, yeah, you figured that out today, Like yeah, yeah, Amber's not out today. She's out today as well. Hopefully she'll be back tomorrow. I think Brian's actually out for two days. He'll be back on Wednesday. But we got Isaiah willing to jump in and I'm stilling for us and UH and so we got actually the day. I wanted to take some time to go back through. There were some things that we talked about

with my crew last week. I had Barry Church on with me, I had a see Ayisha Morrison on with me and UH and we did a lot of recapping of the first half, and I would be interested to hear some of the answers that you guys have to some similar questions. So we're gonna go through some of that stuff before we do that. Though I could play

a game too. I should be like, brought us play a game, even though if you got a game, I've talked to you six times this morning before, none of it about the show, and then I bring this on on that you got a game. No, I don't really have a game game, but like you say, you have a game because it's similar to a game. But whatever, it's not really a game, but it could be. It could be a game. You're all over the place all right, go with your welcome to me. I mean, like, no,

whatever saying I'm saying later on in the show. We could talk about it. We did on our website. We did like first half, best moment, worst moment, best is that what you have to It's on my rundown. It's something we might get to if we had some time left. Oka every mind, he's looking at his notes ship he's still in a test score. You should have brought that up somewhere. He's just gonna trust me to know to know. I got this, man, I got this. I've been doing

this for a long time. I got this, all right. I've been doing it a long time too. You know. Yeah, get your headphones, I have nothing. All right, let's actually let's get to some news. I do want to get your opinions. Uh. This weekend there was some news that that I don't know if you call it broke, but there was new news that people were talking about that

the Cowboys were firmly considering Odell Beckham junior Um. I didn't put much in to it because we know around here the Cowboys are as do a lot of teams. They're gonna do their due diligence they're gonna look at every option. And that's what it sounded more like to me than than maybe what was being reported in when the Cowboys aren't playing, you still want to see and figure out, if you're other news outlets, how you can get the Cowboys involved because it helps that. All being said,

what would you guys think of that? Like, are you guys in the camp of Hey, the Cowboys should really make an aggressive play to get an Odell Beckham Junior. No, not aggressive? No. So I like OBJ. I like him as a competitor, I like him as an effective football player. He is one of those generational guys. He's a specimen all those things. He overcame a lot in his career already. Um created, right, huh he said the other day by yea,

he's created, not born. Yeah, it's two different things. He's one of the guys that's in a good way to put it. Yeah, he's just who are we talking about the other day on on Hang with the Boys when you said that somebody's created full of guys that are like that, Yeah, I mean most guys are born. There's a handful of guys that just created. And OBJ is

one of those guys. I mean to come back from all, you know, to go through all the stuff he went through early in his career, okay, and then to overcome his injury right to come back from Aco and be effective, go out through win the Super Bowl, and unfortunately, you know, he's saying another one. He's going to come back. If he comes back healthy, he's going to help somebody. He's gonna help a team. He's gonna be come into the wide receiver room and be a valuable asset, be a

guy that you get depend on. Hopefully he gets us get hot going into the playoffs. That's why a team's gonna bring him in. What we do know about OBJ up to this point, all right, up to this point, is that he is a very passionate receiver. I put him in a passionate category. I don't call him a problem guy. You know, I've been with guys TiO, I've been with Moss. He's are passionate players. He wants the ball. He doesn't want to be just a guy that's president.

He doesn't want to be a guy that's just in the locker room, that is on the field being a decor. He wants to have an impact on the game. The thing is with certain individuals such as a OBJ, when they are so passionate and they don't get their fix, they can be a potential problem for you in the locker room. One of the issues I had with Dallas relieving themselves of a Marii Cooper was that you were letting a true leader go and you were hoping that

you would have somebody else step into that fold. And I don't think that somebody has stepped into that fold yet in all the areas in which they were hoping would be filled. Ob J doesn't help that solution. In that regard, he can potentially blow it up. And again that's us knowing what he's been to this date. We don't know how he would be coming off a second acl understanding what role he's coming in. Is he gonna be like a Jason Peters where I'm the veteran in

the room now, We don't know. But what we do know is he wants the ball, and I'm not sure that his leadership would be valued in this locker room. That's a tough one because everything you just said, like the first part of it, all the good stuff, was like, Okay, that's the stuff the Cowboys need. And then the so called negative stuff which is based off perception, and you're saying that based off of what we've seen, and he's had enough sample size to go this is kind of

who he is. But you know, like I look at it like is any of that a problem? Like I think, what, I'm not putting words in your mouth, but when I'm hearing from that is I look at it like maybe the Cowboys don't want to hurt CDs feelings or Michael gallups and maybe they need to be Maybe they need to be rough a little bit. This is what this team needs. You're saying a guy that could come help the room, be a veteran and wants the football and help this team. They're in playoff time and I could

see the good out of it. I just I don't think they'll do it. I really don't think they'll do it. But I'm not really opposed to it though if they If they do either, if it messes up the locker room, then then shame on Dak, Shame on Zeke, shame on Tank, Shamon Micah. If it meant if he messes up your locker room, then that's on you that I think. I don't think I think they've established enough where that's not going to happen. See the thing about it for me

is I hear what you guys are saying. Those aren't the things I most concerned about. And let me be clear, if the Cowboys wanted to do this, I'm not gonna be like old. This is horrible because because you don't know, you don't know. And that's really the part that worries me is you're talking about a guy that, now it's coming off his second a cl You're talking about a

guy that's not a young player in the NFL. You're talking about a player that at this point, the way I look at it, what is that time that it's going to take once he's healthy, that's the first hurdle then for him to get to a point where he's actually the freak that he was. And is that still attainable after two acls. I don't know. Maybe it is, maybe it's not. Is it still attainable this year? I don't need O'Dell to be good next year. I need O'Dell to walk in here immediately be good because he's

got to meet They need help now. And that's not something like the way I look at it is, he's got to ramp up. Let's say, for example, the Cowboys did this and he was ready to go within the next two to three weeks. I would need him ramped up and ready to go by end of season so that when we hit the playoffs, like he is not only past that hurdle of being healthy, he has resumed his explosiveness. He is on the same page as Dak. Dak is on the same page with him. All these

things have to happen in that month of time. So they're heading into the playoffs, You're getting the benefit of it. Otherwise it's not worth the move. And that's the part that I'm more concerned about, is can can he still do that? At this age with two acl service ken he still do that? I don't question his physicality just because of the standpoint. He's again he's he wasn't. He's not one of those athletes that's just all right. He's

a good athlete. He's a freaking He's a freak. Yeah, right, So you have to put him in a freak category. So you the expectations that you would have were the lack of confidence that you would have most players that come back from something like this. First of all, he's already showing you that he's overcame it first time. The first time, that's two. Absolutely, now it's two. But guess what for him, his understanding of what is going to

take to get back here's he's already done it. So as an athlete or the biggest portion of getting injured, trust me, I know, right, is can I get back to form? Can I get back to shape? Right? Once you sustain that injuries? Like crap? Am I ever going to be the same guy again? He had those question marks already and he overcame them. He came back, he was that same dude. He was that same as impactful as he had ever been in his career, and he

proved to himself and everybody else, Yeah, I could do this. Unfortunately, sustained it again. Guess what, I know what it takes to get back to where I was at before. But that being said, and I think this can sometimes be the biggest problem for athletes too, is their minds say one thing, but at some point your body's like, yeah, you think you can do this, you can't do this, Like you don't have the ability. And that's more what I'm concerned about this not necessarily him thinking he can

get back, and he might actually think he's back. I look at some of these and I'm not insane the names some of these guys that are older who are still putting out these videos showing themselves working out and all this stuff, and I'm like, yeah, they don't look great like anybody they in their minds, I still think they still think I look good enough to play, and I don't know that anybody else does. How many games would you need him to play? Honestly, if you to

sign a OBJ. He's not He's still not from what we understand, he's still not healthy until what next month. Well, I did see, I did see this morning. They said that it was I think it was Rappaport. Actually that was reporting. I think he's on TV right now. I think he was reporting that supposedly by the end of this week or next week, he would be medically cleared. Okay,

Now again, I don't know what that means. Does that mean he's He's just at the point where, now, okay, ob J, you can go and run like I don't know where he is in that recovery, right, and he gotta be careful cleared by who. Yeah, I mean, because when you get cleared by a team doctor, you know, let's say like let's say Michael Gallo, he gets cleared by the Cowboys doctor, like that's a big deal. He comes out, but if he doesn't perform well or if he has any kind of setback, that's huge to the

medical team. That's why that they're so cautious about it. So, but who's clearing him? What independent doctor or whatever is clearing him to play? Because what it's no skin off their back if he comes out and he's not ready to go. So that I mean, I'm not doctors or doctors, and you would like to think all of them are going to be honest and all that, but it's different when it's not a team doctor. So that's that's what

I could be wrong. I don't know who. I just want to know who's clearing them, because I mean, he I'm sure he has all the available resources. But like my question mark is like, Okay, yeah, even OBJ came back last year. I don't know how many games he played, Okay, but there he was effective. He played seven games with the Rams and he played another wait, six games with Cleveland. Okay, there you go. So started seven games. He actually played eight, but six with OA. So my outlook on OBJS, you're

probably asking him to play six games. Yes, and to play six games, you said, Derek, he said like, I just don't think it's worth it. I guess I just want to didn't I didn't say that. No, No, you said. The last thing you said was I don't know if it would be worth it. Yes, if if he can't get to the point where he's playing at the level he was playing before, Okay, by the time he hit the playoffs, it's not worth it. Yes, So worth worth

what though? Worth the time, worth the development of Jalen Tolbert or James Washington, Worth worth the money, worth the money worth because here's the deal. When you bring him in the door, it's saying something to everybody else in that wide receiver room. So wait, wait, wait, but but here's here's the problem. No, here's the problem with that. Sometimes sometimes I think guys tend to they tend to

reach for whatever they think is the opportunity. If you're telling if you bring him in that room, the opportunity for somebody like Noah Brown changes right what he what he was doing before. He doesn't have that same opportunity anymore. So maybe his game goes down a little bit because

he's reaching his opportunity just got cut. Do you want to really bring this guy in with the expectation to the room, Like, hey man, we just brought in Odell Beckham Junior, But Oldell Jack Beckham Junior ain't really the same obj that we knew he is. He's a he's

kind of a shell of that. And so that's why one of the things when the word dan Quinn and that name was being thrown around and potentially coming to Dallas Cowboys, I had already experienced him in Seattle, and I told everybody before he was ever a real candidate and got sign. I said, this, dude, if you bring him on, he will change the culture of this team because it would being a competitive nature. Is nobody's gonna just have secured spots, right, unless you're just a freak

guy like Michael Parts. Right, nobody just has their spots sold up. Okay, you're gonna have to compete for it every single play, and they're going to continue to bring talent in to challenge you and make you elevate your game. You either gonna elevate or you're gonna get out one or the two. Are you're seeing that on defense? Now you're seeing that on defense. Maybe just maybe their offense is like h that worked for them, Maybe we should

start doing the same thing. Right And if you don't have if you have those guys in the locker room that are unwilling, right or uncapable of stepping their game up to that level of competition, then get them out of here. Yeah. I get that, but right now, you got what you got and I don't trade that lines gone, Yeah, you got what you got, So you getting them out of here? That's the next year. That's not a this year.

And I don't think it's a I don't think it's a coincidence that we saw the best of Noah Brown when he was given the opportunity to step up and assume more. Now does that change when you bring in somebody like OBJ. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, And I must be fair to him. I mean, I think Noah Brown has had a really good year based off of expectations. To me, But the best of Noah Brown was five catches for seventy five yards against the Bengals, I mean, and that helped them win. I mean they had to

have that to win the game. I look back at the Eagles game or a playoff game later in the season and put him in the slot, and I just wonder what defenses view him. Yeah, Odell's he's been okay through a couple of games, series pretty good, had that one good game. Maybe he's not the same, but there he is in the slot on third and eight, as opposed to Noah Brown. Does it? Does it? Does it change thing? Does it? Does it free up CD more

or gallop on the other end? You know, I just I still think having him there, I guess I'm selling myself a little bit more. I was kind of on the fence when the starter, but I'm just doing this. I'm okay. I just don't see the risk reward being that big a deal. Now, this is what will happen though you play. Let's say they lose to the Titans. Okay, then Titans look pretty good on defense whatever. They should

have won that game last night. But stead they lose to the Titans and Obj gets one target, and you know there will be a headline on the website. Obj Colin. They're not using me like they should. And that's a story. You gotta deal with it and all that. They won't do that if Jalen Tilbert says it, or if Washington says it, they don't they'll do that for him, you know. And so you have to deal with that. You have

to deal with your fourth third or fourth receiver. If he's the squirrel boy, they'll find that, they'll go they'll get him. You know. Anybody else that doesn't do anything in a game wouldn't get talked to, but he would, and he might say something, and then there's a story, and you got to deal with that. That's my concerning Okay, and that's fair. We see my greatest concern with this. It's not his physicalist, not when he come back and be effective, it's what he can potentially do to this

locker room that doesn't have sound leadership in that room. Yeah, that's that's fair. And that's why over the years you had backup quarterbacks that or hit quarterbacks that weren't in the league. I'm not gonna name names, but there's quarterbacks out there or they should go get him. They should

go get him. Yeah. And the reason why you don't it's because now you've got the most popular backup quarterback in the world and he's getting talked to him for different reasons and all that kind of stuff, and it just creates a distraction because it's not good enough. You'll deal with distractions if they're catching ten passes for one hundred yards. Deal, You'll deal with that until they're not.

But y'all think OBJ, is that's still that player? You expect that he's ready to be that player right now. Not gonna say that he's that player, But does he give you an edge? Yes? Absolutely, he gives you an edge if he's even a shadow of what he was last year in years prior to that. Yes, he adds value because that's such an indicting statement on the rest of this wide receiver chord. It's not because exciting. That's

why we're talking about I mean, right, you're not. Who else are you putting a OBJ conversation from this lock from this receiving group? Well, I mean, how anybody? But but but that's also OBJ that we knew. I'm talking about OBJ from last year, even OJ last night, And if he's OBJ from last year, it is absolutely worth it. You go get him. My question is is he still that? That's that's that's the point. But that's the thing that every team in this league. He has all the leverage

right now. Because every team in this league that needs help at receiver is going to talk to options. It's not a lot of options. He has all the leverage right now, and he automatically gives you value because of what you're saying. You have to respect him obviously. Now all of a sudden, he comes in as your wide receiver, three, your your third best dB is facing OBJ. Yeah. I think I think the Cowboys would be his number one target.

I believe that. Yeah, I mean I agree, but I just think they the Cowboys have what he's looking for, what he should be. I would imagine what a chance to compete. They're top five team in the league right now, they're top five team, They're top five team that actually needs help at receiver. Um, he seems like I never met him, but I have met him in the Pro Bowls rookie year, but I haven't. I mean, he seems

like a guy that likes the limelight. He likes the attention, and you know what, this place that actually gives you that. So what is he like the money? Because I don't think the Cowboys will be the biggest spender. Nope, they won't. Greeny will so so will he be willing to take less money to come here? Yes? Do you think it depends on how much less? Yeah? Right, depends on how well we know about the Cowboys they like for they like. They often like to get deals, especially with these kind

of players. They'll invest if they think it's a longer term player. If they don't see him as a longer term player, I don't know. My question is like, are they are they gonna be willing to step up and spend as much as the next I think so. I think Dallas. I was disappointed at the trade. That line that Dallas didn't make any moves. Yeah, I was really disappointed.

We think we were talking about. But every other team, I'm gonna say every other team, a lot of other teams that plan on being in this playoff run that's coming up, made moves to make themselves too. They did it a week early, They did it the week early. Absolutely on defense, right, But that wasn't that was a gaping hole for you. But guess what, you need something else good, good, And you're getting to score points in

this in this in this conference, and this division. I can't be disappointed if I if I can't see what the trade was and I can't see what was the offer, because it sounds like they were they were trying. I mean if you look at reports, but the guys that were going after like like you let a guy go, No, we can't say no, we're still everybody what I'm saying, But you're gonna go up to somebody who's getting paid

the same amount? Like what why you're talking about Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, you don't say that's a perfect athlete, comes in, does his job, very dominant, doesn't talk, masks, doesn't get angry, just leading the room, and you let him go and then you go talk to somebody else who who works the same amount of money. Right, but I think you're trying to go back and change history like you're right, I mean, should have done. I think everybody has said

that was a baffling moment. I think everybody agrees with that that was a baffling twice. Now this is twice

that this team needs to look at it. And this is it starts with Jerry Stephen Will McClay because they were here for all of this that you go into twenty eighteen, thinking you don't need receiver help, and he end up trading the first round pick in the middle of year for him, and then you let him go and you go into the season thinking you got these guys and now you're over here trying to get so figure out that maybe your receiver position you need more

than you think you do, and you're in. And that's happened twice. Now where they they almost did that. You're right, they almost tried to get you know, guy from and you know what, glad they didn't. I'm glad they didn't need I'm glad they didn't because I have been about that based off of what we've seen. And I don't know if you can talk about the players, but everyone knows that who they tried to get, and he hadn't

played it down since. And I don't know if one I disagree with you guys on because I look, go look at his record. No matter what team he's been with, he's effective. But but so so if you gotta talk about if you're gonna talk about, hey, I'll go get OBJ because he's still gonna produce and he's still gonna be you rank him in that wide receiver room I think if you look at that guy and rank him in that wide receiver room, he's gonna be up there. But we talked about it earlier. You can't. I'm not

giving out awards for effort. Oh you get. And I'm not even talking about player. I'm talking about acquiring assets. You don't get any credit Dallas Cowboys or any other team, Green Bay, all the other teams that quote unquote try to acquire somebody. You don't get any paths on the

back for making a valiant effort. The reality is you're one injury away at the receiver position being a freaking glass brick scenario because the teams that you're going to be playing going towards us towards the end of the season, right, the Minnesota's right. You talk about the Philadelphias, those teams that really matter in your in your freaking conference, in

your division. Those are the teams that you got to put up points against, and they got multiple and they got They went out there and got more assets than they even need, right, more assets than they need. Right. They address problems that they need to address so that they can make sure that when when if something hit the fan, they were still in a good position if Dallas has one injury right now, receiver freaking a. Let's go to our four tight inset again. Yeah, and better

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make money. All right, let's get into our midyear review. Like I said, these are some of the questions I asked to Aisha and Barry. What that's a good idea? All right, I asked Aisha and Barry last week. But love to hear you guys thought on some of these topics. The first question I have for you is the player who you expect to add more to the defense down the stress stretch between Jonathan Hankins and Daman Clark. Jonathan Hankins Hankins Why uh? Daman Clark adds depth and potential,

explosiveness and a whole lot of upside. Right excited. I'm a demon Clark fan. But Hankins is addressing a problem. So you look, you can ask some addressing a problem versus potential just flash and you know, more depth and more you know whatever, more effectiveness. But Hankins is actually like your solution. And you saw that in the one game that he played. Obviously, they ran to I mean that's what they do, right, They run the ball really well. But the plays that he was in there, he was

very effective. Yeah, I agree. I think Also, I think you're gonna get a better and Neville Gallimore and a better bo Hannah because of that. I think he's he's here to help. Also, I don't think it's a coincidence. Terren Steel's played better with Jason Peters here, and and Tyler Smith's played better, and Connor McGovern when he came back, played better. I think I think Peters has helped. Also

think it's like we talked about with the receivers. I think it's raised the bar a little bit, like you better watch you better watch your your your back here because I watch your spot because here guy's coming to take it. So I think he address addresses the problem. I also think they're going to be better and deeper at defensive tackle because those guys are going to raise their game too. What do you guys think about bar what he's done so far a relative to Demon Clark.

As you said that Deman Clark adds depth. Do you think it's a situation where maybe Barr could end up losing playing time or maybe even his job as time goes on. I think for me, I think Anthony Barr. I still think they're trying to figure out where he goes, and I think it's I think it helps to have his versatility because you have Mica. I also think it hurts sometimes to have it, because if that makes any sense, I just feel like you're trying to figure out places

for him. And I never thought he was a linebacker at Minnesota. I always thought he was a pass rusher. Yeah he was, and he got Fouler, You've got Dren's you just got played, and you're trying to put him at linebacker. I don't think it is good there. This to me feels a little Keano neilish, like you're trying to figure out this spot for him. It was sure it would be nice if he could play it, but he's not a real linebacker. I think Demon Clark's a

real linebacker. Just looks like agree agree, he's big and as big as he is a freaking U bar is bigger. Yeah, So I'm excited about Damon Clark and what he can bring to that second level. I know he kind of got thrown into it in his first first appearance. He wasn't expecting to play that much. He obviously they're injury called, you know, to the bar allowed for him to step

into that fold. But Barr is serviceable. I don't think I think he's He's a guy that you want there because he's he makes a quiet place, right, he makes the tackles, all those things. But to your point, he's not a guy that you want lined up over over a running back and trying to you know, guard him the things that they're asking their linebackers to do along with vander Ish, Right, So vander Esh is the one

guy that's not gonna move. I think that you want a guy that's more agile, more explosive, a little bit faster to be able to go out there and make those plays, all right. Next question, who has been the bigger surprise? Tyler Smith, Terrence Steele or Noah Brown. Oh,

Tyler Smith for me? M yeah, yeah, I think I'm a little bit more surprised that he's locked it down over there because I had high expectations for Steel, and I think Noran Brown has been good, but they're obviously trying to trade for help around him to not make him at number three, make him a four or five, which also helps your special Did y'all not think that Tyler Smith could do what he's doing, because I mean, I think coming in, I think the expectation was that

he'd be a really good player. He was strong, but he had some issues with penalties. Let me ask you this, that's pretty much been what he's been right, ask you this, if you get a great report from Tyrant Smith, is are you putting Tyron Smith back at left tackle? We had this conversation, yes or no? I said no, I haven't I said no. I said no. That is the reason why Tyler Smith, to me, is the answer to

your question. Because if if back in training camp, if you're like, Tyran's gonna get hurt and when he comes back, I don't know if he's going to get his job back. Who was expecting that based off a guys can't even beat out Connormer Government guard just yet. I think that that would be a surprise. So the fact that we're even having this discussion about would Tyrant come back. That to me is the answer, because he has been phenomenal.

That's actually an interesting point too. And you said he couldn't even beat out Connor mcgovernor, and he didn't, and I know, I know he didn't, And that's why I'm a little bit baffled when I hear people say, when Tyron comes back, you plug in Tyron at left tackle and you move Tyler to guard. Well, Tyler couldn't beat out the guard. And by the way, Connor McGovern has shown you nothing that says he needs to be beat out. At this point. He's playing pretty good football. So I

don't see what that even works. You're basically you're saying all of none. Either you're going with Tyran and Tyler's going to the bench or maybe I mean, you can't move in the right side steals playing well, So either he's going to the bench or he's staying at his spot. And that's where I have a hard time sitting the rookie after what he's done so far. You sit the rickie, I mean until Tyr Tyrn right shows you that he can't.

You sit the ricky because he's your Hall of Fame left tackle who had a you know, obviously he's had injury in the past, right, but he had a you know, an injury in camp messed him up. Okay, you give him the chance. Out of respect, you give him the chance. It's more about a respect respect not necessarily what you're getting on the field. Absolutely, this is it's a respect thing. I mean, he's when he's on the field. Is he not one of the two most impactful players on your team? Well,

I used to be. I think it's more. I think it's more than that. I mean, it is about respect, but it's also about he has never proven when he's healthy, He's never proven to not be That's what I'm saying. Yeah, so maybe maybe that is what you're I mean, this isn't just one of those like back in the day when they used to start the guy. You know, like, this isn't a this isn't his play dropping off. You haven't seen the tire retyrant Smith's place are dropping off significant.

I think you can make the case that maybe that's what they're doing with Zeke over over Pollard, you know, like almost out of respect. I mean I think that's even more so. I don't but that's another that's another topic that's a whole different questions. But Tyrant, Tyrant is Tyrant right when healthy, you want him on your freaking

left side. Did you did you not see or did you see during camp any drop off in his play, because I think that was a conversation we had last week, is that during camp this year he didn't appear to be the same Tyrant who just whenever you took it for granted, like this has been for years now, you took it for granted. Whenever there's a rep where Tyrant is out there, whoever that defender is, he's gonna get up,

He's gonna do this. That means he lost, He's gonna go back to the side and the next guy's terrible. Was dominant? No, No, he just wasn't. He wasn't dominant Tyran. That that every time he was up that guy lost, right, and that is fairer. It also needs to be pointed out we have never seen him go up against the best pass rushing team in the league. True, I mean that that this team was we found out now we didn't. Really.

We did see him go up against a DeMarcus Ware regularly, right, and again, Marcus didn't make a habit of beating him, and there was some good pass rushings here for a few years. When you think about some of those guys that had some ability, he did that one year. He made it happen and we were like, oh man, this is a bad pick. And then it turns out Tyrant was great. That was just so he figured it out. Once he figured it out, he was like, all right,

young man, and sit out. But also talking about figuring it out, I mean, Tyler Smith kind of figured it out at left tackle on the fly. I think he can do guard as well. I don't think he's a guard. This is a It's a perfect example of not every offensive line position is the same. It's just not. It's just like every playing receiver on inside versus playing receiver and outside's two totally different monsters. Right, Yeah, you run routes.

Yeah you catch the ball. But if your perception is different, your outlooks different, you're spacing your you're you know, you're everything right, you're probably reception. All that stuff is different. He's not in the box guy, That's just what it is. Right from what we saw, We're like, okay, we can put him in. That's gonna be easier put him the left tackle to left guard. I was a culprit of that right. Same thing with Peters, he left tackle, put him in a guard, right, And I still stand behind

Peter's playing that guard. But it's still different. He's not as dominant as he is is when he's out there on the island by himself. You would think, okay, let's it's easier when you when you're kind of boxed in. Yeah, it's not for some guys, right. So for so Tyler Smith, kudos you bro for even bringing up this conversation in terms of your playing, because you've been effective as all get out out there on the left side and there

hasn't been no question mark. All the question marks are going into the season when when Tyring got hurt was all crap the backside of Dak Dak's coming back and crowd is we're gonna have some issues out there out there, Chip, We're gonna have to do it. It's been good, it's been good. But I think when Big Dog gets back, if he gets back, young fella, come sit down now is now? If he mess up enough, yeah, be ready say warm, yeah, stay war. They won't stay on the bike.

But sound like but I would say i'd be I'd be interested in seeing if he could play guard and Tyler Smith because what this team lacks to me is an inside push, and it's been the honest doesn't give it to you. I think Zach gives it to you for sure with leverage and all that. But Peters does in the ring game. Well, is he gonna be in there? I mean I'm talking about over McGovern, Are you gonna play Peters? Who? Who are we talking about here? I'm

just saying you're talking about guard? Now are you talking about Smith bumping in? Yeah? But I mean I haven't replaced McGovern. If Peters is in there, that's a whole new conversation. But the but he's avery, but he's on the debt chart there, I don't think. I think Tyler Smith automatically just goes goes to one B. I'd left tackle, Okay. That what I'm saying is is that I'd like to see maybe him play at left guard because I want

to see like that power. He's got power when he's when I look at Tennessee last night, when I look at what the Eagles have, and there's an Washington again, Washington that's always been a problem. I just look at strength and about to get back their best defensive play. Washington, they're an interesting team right now. I don't know if

you guys noticed yesterday. If Washington would have won that game, all three teams NFC East would have been in the playoffs as of yesterday, that's all four teams would have been in the playoffs. They would have been all those wild cards would have been NFC East teams. That's that that. I mean, Washington has put themselves right back into the They're in the conversation like they're sitting right outside the playoffs. It's actually a good thing because you know, they haven't

played the Giants yet. The Giants and Washington haven't played, so all this is going to kind of sort itself out at some point. But it's still interesting and I think it's way better than a couple of years ago when the NFC East was just like sit at the worst in the NFL. I made a statement last week and I said, you know, the toughest part of your schedule is behind you. That's not true. I mean, why don't you really look at it now and go okay, because Tennessee kind of snuck out, snuck upon me. I

didn't realize that they were as good. I mean, Minnesota, Minnesota is what it is. I mean, they're winning games. To say, with the Giants, you can say what you want, like I'm not worried about them, and you don't have to be worried about them. But they win games. Yep, they win. They figure out ways to win, and then they did. You thought Green Bay, you thought Indianapolis were

gonna be really good matchups. They are the ones you're least worried about at this point of these next several And I'll be honest with you, Jacksonville ain't a gimme game. Like Jacksonville used to be a gimme game. That ain't a gimme game anymore. That team, they play hard. They're like the Lions. They play hard. You catch them on the wrong weekend, they can beat you. I think NBC is trying to flex out of that game, which colts,

and that is around flex time, isn't it. They'll be flex knowing them, they'd be like, let's do a trade, Like we'll take that game back, We'll flex another cowboy. I was gonna say, let's be honest. Ain't nobody giving up a Cowboys. No, I don't care what the scenario is. Ain't nobody giving I'm saying they may want a trade or something like that, because anybody looks better than Cowboys Colts on a Sunday night. I mean even Cowboys Jacksonville

looks better than that Cowboys Vikings. They would love to flex that one, I'm sure, but they ain't giving up a Cowboy if they can't get another one back. Yeah, giving up a Cowboys game. All We're gonna take our final break. We'll come back. We got a couple more questions for these guys. We'll be back. Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. The season is finally here. For months, we've been gearing up to win. Now it's time for the

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S twenty five to get twenty five dollars off. That's x It's twenty five, all right, Welcome back, final segment of the Break Life and that's WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, we're presented by mill of like the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys Let's get a couple more questions here before we end the show. This question is one that stomped our guys last week. It's more important stomped them like they were like they took about what I say. Well, I thought you said stomped or stump.

You just say stump, But you said stump. I say stumped because you got the Kirk Franklin stomp stump. Okay, is it don't due them stomping or whatever? You yeah, that not right. I'll stretch up. You never see him getting more upset when we're gonna we're gonna move on. Let's here's the question. Here's the question off the hooks around Derek. Here's the question, here's the question more important to this team's success. Dak Prescott or dan Quinn? Dan Quinn? Easy,

that's not even a stumper or a stumper. A stomper stumper dan Quinn. If if you don't have this defense, where are you at? We know where you're at without Dak with this defense, with this defense. So why does he get hurt? I mean, what happens the quinns he gets sick? I mean what no, I'm saying, I'm just saying, Who's more important to the He's like, he's like, I

don't think we can lose him. Like I'm just I'm looking at it, like like you just said, let's say Cooper Russ has to play in the next six seven games, or Joe Joe Wit calls the plays. I think I'd rather Joe Wit calls the plays because you've seen it. Just run this, okay, thanks, all right, run this. Mike is still out there running around. I think I'm for that, and then I'll have Dak. I mean, so Mica is more important than Dan. Yes, Mica is the most important

player on the football team. Mike is the best player in the NFL. I agree with that. You don't think, Well, the reason why I say that, No, the reason the reason the reason why I say that is because I don't know if we actually know Michael Parsons in the way we know Michael Parsons without Dan Quinn. Okay, a lot of a lot of different layers through all this. Um, so you're choosing a Dack over over Quinn. That's what you're saying, Dack over Quinn. I think Joe Witt can

can take or whoever it is. I just just take the sheet and call it please and just run Michael over the place and let him play. No, Okay, I'm dan Quinn through and through Dak Prescott to me, and I've always stood by this. I think he's a good quarterback. I don't think he's a great quarterback. That's just been my opinion over the years. That's from velocity, that's from accuracy, that's from all those things. That has nothing to do with him as a person, has nothing to do with

his determination, his will to win, all those things. It's just from what I have seen. I don't put him in that elite conversation. Dan Quinn is an elite coach. There's that's just no if answer butts about it. What he's done for this defense, turning them around from the worst in the league to the best in the league shows you exactly what the heck is going on there. This offense, okay, was number one in the league last year, okay with Dak Prescott awesome. Okay, But all of a

sudden they're not at the top of the league. And obviously he's only been here for a couple of games. I get it, all right, People gonna throw shade, but Dak is not a guy that could just drop back and throw the ball at you. Dak Prescott is not as effective unless he has that running game. He's not going to throw the ball sixty eight times and get you a victory like dog On Mahomes did yesterday. Right, He's not that guy. He needs a running game. And and that's not a knock on him. That's just a

type of quarterback he has. And I think I will much rather have a dan Quinn that's changing the culture, that's putting guys in a position to be successful based upon their abilities that they have, then then a Dakota Prescott at quarterback. Yeah. I mean again, I don't really see the scenario this year of that happening. Now, you hope not next year. The saying, man, I'll say it, I don't want to live in a world without dan Quinn. Okay,

that's where I'm saying. Let's just say in some crazy scenario where he was going to be the head coach and he said I don't want this as my quarterback, that's a decision where you're like, wait a second, now you have to make a decision between the two. But right now, I mean as opposed to maybe like the worst flu bug. Ever, I don't think it might be that. It might be this flute thing is kind of crazy right now, so maybe it is drink drink days are blue.

Well that I can see that question definitely stomped me because I don't I see that that was a stomper. All right, guys, appreciate you join us. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll get into some other questions I have these guys. We'll also take some questions. It's Tuesday, so we'll get lots of questions from you guys. Whatever you guys want to talk about. It's a bye week, coming off a bye week, so we'll have some time to really be able to say back and answer some questions from you guys.

So till then, for Nick even Asia, see him back. I'm Derek Hilton. This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club