Cowboys Break: How to Win

We are live Nest WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We got a little bit of a shortened show today, but we're gonna try to get in a lot of stuff. We're gonna start first by catching up on some injuries. There were two guys that continue to miss practice to yesterday that it missed most all week, actually shun Lee Layton Vandersh. Yesterday, you guys said, I think Nick, you were saying you you fully expect that Shaun Lee will play. Are you changing? I think I think I'm sorry when

I still play, I lean toward thinking I'll play. Okay, honestly, so, even though he hasn't played practice this week, you still feel pretty good I mean, he definitely doesn't feel good, and you know that's that's football. But I mean, if if he can get himself right in time for Sunday afternoon, it's It's one of those things. I mean, he's one of those guys that can play without practice reps. He was out there today. He wasn't participating, but he's part

of it. He's working with the linebackers on on reps and things like that. So he's going to play. It's not ideal, but he will. He's going to try his ass off to play, which we'll see. Tell me, let's let's go the opposite side of that. Let's assume for a second that he doesn't play. How the cow Cowboys managed this from the standpoint of the linebacker position, knowing that Layton vandersh most likely is not going to play as well? This Ismith, that's one out of three. That's

what night Pro Bowl. So what are you doing the other two positions when you're in base? Who the other two linebackers that you have about that I'm talking right now about bodies and who's doing well? I know, I mean, I'm well aware, well aware of the linebackers. Luke sounds like a boy band does Justin and Luke and Joe. I'm well aware of the linebackers haven't played well, but this is why we bragged about their depth all year, I mean all through training camp. This I mean, Joe

Thomas will step in and start if Sean can't. And it's a hell of a place to be if your best or two of your top three linebackers are out and you can still start Joe Thomas, Like, that's not

a bad spot to not worried about Joe at all. Yeah, I start wondering once you get beyond that and having exposed these other guys, I mean, I know there were a lot of people that like Luke Gifford during training camp, but he just doesn't have a lot of experience, And so how do you feel about you know, who's going

to be out there? And let's let's also think of from this standpoint, even if Sean can go, what happens if you get into the first quarter and he can't go, right, you still got to have those guys in there playing. How comfortable do you feel with those guys that are farther down the depth chart now playing? We were always wondering why the Cowboys did not choose to put Lucifer under the injury reserve, then what was the point of that.

And now you come to a point in the season where okay, maybe you do need to utilize him, and if he's not ready, then that's on them. You know. They they kept him on the list on the roster for a reason and they know more than we do. But he's not here just to look good and walk around. You know, he ought to do something. So if you need him, go ahead. Yeah, that's okay. Now that's all sounds great and and and in theory, you're absolutely right.

I don't know that necessarily still means he can play, like we don't really know, and I don't know, you got options right now, that's on them. Yeah, you know, they had decisions to make, and if they thought he was good enough for for a reason or had the talent and motivation, I don't think that's necessarily on them. I mean, at this point we're talking talking about like your sixth linebacker, and I mean that's the nature of the NFL. Guys get hurt and this happens. But look

at the Eagles bride receiver position. Yeah, I mean that stuff like that's gonna happen. And Justin March is there as well. He's kind of forgotten man, more of a special teamer. He could he could step in and do that if he needs to. Uh yeah, they think the world of Luke Gifford. I've had people ask me about that. It's like, well, all you did all through training camp was brag about Louke Gifford when are were going to

see him? I'm like, do you not understand? Like again, these things right on a curve, Like I'm very impressed with Luke Gifford for being an undrafted free agent rookie and he made the team and they liked him enough not to put him on injured reserve. That doesn't mean he's gonna step on the field and just light it up from the get It's the I mean, it's the same thing with Donovan Wilson. There's levels to this stuff. Um. I do think he could play and might have to,

and we'll see how he does. Maybe he's a pleasant surprise, but I don't everyone needs to start though, you know, sure, but you have to saying like if he's if he if he struggles, I'm not just like, ah, he sucks and shame on the Cowboys for keeping out. That's that's not what I'm saying. I like Geffer and I'm I've been wanting to see him and what he can turn into.

But I'm saying, at one point you have to throw him in the field and let him get started and get rolled in and maybe this is you know, we're approaching maybe that time. Yeah, not a good time in the season. But again, this game doesn't matter. According to most people, it really matters. His name's Todd Gurley. Have fun. Yeah, that's the that's the part. I mean. You look at

this team that they're going to be playing. They got a lot of good athletic um skill players that you're going to have to make sure you're doing the technique techniques right in order to have a chance at being able to tackle them in open field spaces. And to me, that's you know, that's where you start wondering about guys that don't have the experience play less space. It's fine, Nickel, play less space, It'll be okay. Did you say they're using a lot more twelve weeks for sure? Which yea.

That helps you if you want to stay in base. No, if you want as opposed to them going three wide. Yeah, yeah, but but it could expose your expose your linebackers. Yeah, you don't want to be in base right now. What you're saying, you're saying you want to go more nickel. Yeah, I got you, But you know that it's December. Here we are. What are you gonna do? Yeah? Okay, so here's we're gonna do. I have two questions for you

guys that will talk about Cowboys versus Rams. Give people kind of an understanding what you guys think will be the storylines coming out of this game. The first question I have for you, and these questions are pretty much related. We're gonna look at offense and defense. But the player that you think is more likely to create problems for the Cowboys offense is I'll throw out Aaron Donald. I'll throw out Jalen Ramsey. If you have another, feel free

to throw it in. But what player on the Rams defense do you think is more likely to cause problems for the Cowboys other than Aaron Donald? I mean you could say Donald. I will say the last time they played Donald didn't get a sack. I don't think right, I'm gonna say I'll just say Michael Brockers because it's it was the tackle opposite Donald that wrecked everything last time, So maybe Brockers will pick up on that. I mean, Corey Littleton is a name that I brought up yesterday.

He's having a fantastic season. He's one of their main inside linebackers. Um, can't you just see Clay Matthews junior making a couple of plays? Can? Yeah? Is he a junior? Yeah? He is. You just called him junior? So awesome, I think I guess so, I don't know. They just kind of rolled off. Okay, is it right? Clay Matthews isn't he didn't he isn't there didn't he the son of like a but I didn't know his name was Clay Tarzan running around with that hair fabio. Now I'm doubting myself.

I don't think he's a junior, but Clay Matthews from whatever, long haired guy on the edge, he's gonna make problems or cause problems for Fowlers a junior who I think Fowler? Yeah, Fowler is a junior. Yeah, he's actually Clay Matthews the third. Now can we move on? Yuh sobriety show Taylor rap? How about that. That's another one. I mean, Zeke Elliott is probably gonna have a tough time running the ball. It's I mean, it hasn't been great for the run

game in recent weeks. Some of that is circumstanced. They've gotten down in games, but you know, he hasn't had a one hundred yard games since November the fourth. This is a team that's equipped a little limit. That I mentioned Littleton I meant obviously Donald obviously, I mean there's a lot of talent on the front, but then Littleton's having a great season behind that, and again Ramsey enables

rapped to freelance a little bit more. I would imagine he's going to spend him and Wettle both are probably going to spend a healthy amount of time near the box. That's never great for Zeke. So that's where it's where I look Garcia, I think, I mean, just a defensive line. That's what what's worrying me, aside from Aaron Donald, just everything that everyone else is doing on that line and what his own presence brings and creates opportunities for other guys.

Dak is going to have a really hard day. I just see him getting pressure so much and then, like we talked yesterday, the fact that he takes so much much time to get rid of the ball just because he's trying to find the best option on the field, that can't happen. He can allow himself to overthink things and just think too much. But then at the same time that concerns me about throwing some interceptions, you know. So it's just gonna be a really tough game for

the offense. All right, I'll just throw in just for kicks. I think it's Jalen Ramsey. Until until I see the Cowboys be able to move their offense when they have an opposing defense that has a really great cornerback. Until I see that consistently, I'm gonna assume that that's going to be a problem for them. And if Amar if if they travel Ramsey with Amari, then if Amari does what I think will probably happen, which is they don't

either they don't go to him very much. Because that does happen where they just won't go to him, or he has or he struggles, I think the offense gonna have a hard time moving the ball. So I think that's the lynchpin. That's the part that worries me the moment. I have this weird feeling like Mary's gonna play well. I'd love to see it, and I don't. I mean, I can't give you a great reason for it other than that. Again, like I think it's at home well,

I mean the home road splits. Everybody knows about him. It's crazy how much better he plays at at and T. I don't know why. I just again, I think Ramsey's confident enough in his ability that, like, you know, Cooper catching the ball, as long as you limit the big play,

you know, the house call. I think he's willing to let him do a little bit of work and you know you're not gonna I know Gilmour did, but typically you're not gonna shut out an NFL receiver with the with the way the rules are anyway, I just I think I think Coop. Not to say he's gonna blow up, but I think he could have eighty to one hundred yards and Ramsey will probably take that and be like, well, yeah, they scored seventeen points. I don't care if you had

a hundred yards. But I think Cooper could play well in this game. I will say this. I'm just as concerned that they just don't get him involved. And I think it's because the only thing I can point to is maybe if Dax's looking for the open guy and you got a really good corner and that guy doesn't look open very much, and so you just go away from him. And we know that that's happened this year, where he gets lost and they just don't find a

way to get him involved in games. And so that would be more of the concern, even more so then than Jalen being willing to concede some of that stuff. I just think his coverage will be good, and I think that might take a Maria away. Last time Ramsey was at the stadium, didn't the Cowboys score forty? Yeah? With the Jaguars. Yeah. I don't know what was happening that day, but I'll Beasley had a lot of catches over the middle. I mentioned that during the Bills was

he not him? Yeah? But I mean it's really funny I thought about that during the Bills game. The Jags dared Bees to just beat him man up on their slot corner, and he abused him, and then having known that he's capable of doing that, that's exactly how the Cowboys played him when the Bills came to down and it had the same result. I don't. I mean, it seems like an oversight, like you, of all people, should

know what Cole Beasley can do. Yeah, and maybe that means that the Cowboys are gonna have to use some of these other wide receivers this week. Problem has been just in most games this year, if a Maria isn't a part of it, then it's hard. Those other guys just don't seem to get going and the offense seems to be stagnant. They gotta run the ball. That's what

they have to do first. I mean, if they did not do that in the game against the Rams back in January, and you know, in fifty yards rushing, I mean, they've got to establish that. You can establish that, which I believe Zeke had a nice day against the Jaguars at least early on. You get that going, then they can change a lot of things. But if you can't run the ball, it doesn't really matter. It doesn't matter what happens in this game. I don't think the Cowboys

can win if they don't run at all. All Right, we're gonna take our first break and we come back, We're gonna flip that question. Ask you, guys, who do you think the biggest problem will be for the Cowboys on the offensive side of the ball. Do that when we come right back this Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. I'm Jay Nova Check, former tight end for the Dallas Cowboys. Back in the day, I was the guy who always got the tough yards and that's why I run with

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America's best wireless network. Best network based on GWS one score, September twenty nineteen. Back to the Break, Welcome back. At the second segment of The Break, last nest WBC Morgan Studios got that's the start, We got an interesting conversation.

We're not gonna take it to the air, but anyway, come all right now, we don't all right, all right, um, let's let's actually the I want to flip the question I ask you guys before the break, I want to ask you what player on the Rams offense do you think can be the biggest problem for the Dallas defense. Some of the names could be Todd Gurley, Robert Woods, Cooper Cup, you can even say golf if you choose. But but what player do you think would be will

be the biggest problem for the Cowboys this weekend? Cooper Cup and Tyler Higbee. Higbee, all right, but Cowboys aren't good at defending the middle of the field. Uh, you know, we just Cole Beasley torched him. Um, their linebackers haven't been good in coverage all year. Their best coverage linebacker hasn't played in three weeks. So those are guys that can exploit you. And Higbee can line up, you know, he can line up in line next to the tackle or he I mean they've put him out on the

numbers last week. He can do He can go where every once. So he's athletic enough to make those types of plays. And cup Is I mean Cup, we talked about it. He's six two, two hundred. I mean that's that's a big body for Jordan Lewis to have to defend. And that worries me, so those guys, I expect him to be making plays over the middle of the field. Hey gee, um, I'm gonna go with Golf. And here's why. The Cowboys. They face some other quarterbacks that aren't as

good as Golf. I see Golf of being better than some of those past quarterbacks, and I think that the Cowboys, if they are unable to pressure him and really get after him, I think they can make Golf look like a really, really good quarterback. And we've seen it happen this season, and I think it could happen again this Sunday. So I would go with him. Yeah, as it is, I mean, as it is with most quarterbacks. Pressure is something that definitely can get Golf his game off his game.

But when you're not pressuring him, Yeah, he's got the arms that bad. He's got the arm talent to get you Nick, and I don't really feel like messing around with games and stuff like that. I mean, Girly, I'm going with Donald. I'm going with Girly. I mean, those

are great points. I like it, but just since since he's still on the table, I'll take Quartly because you know, just kind of to that point if if um both Scarborough can have decent numbers and games and stuff like that, and some of these other backs that we've seen that have some success. You know, this is considered one of the best in the league when he's healthy, and you know, I think he's starting to round in the forum and so, you know, Dalvin Cook was was really dynamic and he

gave him all kinds of problems. I just feel like Girly's going to be able to do that. Like I said about the previous um about the Cowboys defense that you know you have or you have to run the ball in offense, same thing. If you don't stop the run, that you can't do anything. All those things that they're talking about play accent, it all starts with stopping a run. So Girly and it seems like they're I mean, I would assume they're going to try to run the ball.

They have been. That's how they set up there last time. You know, it was really one of Girly's first you know, coming out party games against the Cowboys. I mean passes over the middle, and I think he made Heath look pretty bad, you know, and everybody look bad. He was really he was really great in that game, So girly was be my answer. I went with Donald and Girly

all right, so fair. I mean you're not wrong. I do have one more question for you guys now thinking about the Cowboys players, and this can be offense, defense or special teams. If you had to identify one player on the Cowboys that needs a huge day, career day, big day in order for the Cowboys have their best chance to win? Who is that player? Nick Bullet Nick swiped. For those of you all that are watching, do you think it's Jaye? You said, yea, if Jayla has a

career day, you think Cowboys can win? Yeah, yeah, okay, because a career day would be like you can throw a sack in there. Give me ten tackles, good tackles, not tackles twenty yards you said the other day. Tackles. Now a couple four swipes, A couple of tackles, A couple of tackles for lost and they approved swipes, unproved swipes, approved swipes by Derek. Did we do that on the air? That wasn't on the air. You might not know what I'm talking about. I was having this conversation with somebody

the other day in the office. You know you have a get back coach. Yeah, we need to have a swipe coach. Like every time he does something he thinks is swipe worthy, somebody on the sideline says yes or no, and then he can swipe or not. That person does not need to be running his social media account, but because the same thing, right, because they don't. He does not have an interception in one in his career. It right,

so a career day, I think. I I agree, Like if he plays like an absolute badass, it gives him a great chance to win. Because if he plays like an absolute badass, then Girley's gonna be at least limited. Uh, you know, he'll he'll contribute to the pass rush if he gets a takeaway that speaks for itself. I mean I got yours because I wanted it was you. I was gonna be mine if you hadn't said it. I want to switch my all right, Switchers, he's been my guy and he's I need him to play well in

this game. Xavers to a philo like with Aaron Donaldson there, like he's messing up your reputation. No, I mean this is this is a big moment for him. You know him and Frederick and on those guys, but they really need to have their best game. So I'm gonna go with Suphilo since I should have approved. I approved your swife. There, all right, I can't pick one. Yeah, play the game. One guy can have a good game and it still won't matter. The Cowboys have bigger problems than just one guy.

I can. Okay, Honestly, if you just want to take the easy way out, like if Dak plays the best game of his life, they'll probably win fifty yard games, I'll tell you the person it is. Actually, actually it's an easy answer. Nick went easy with all the other ones and then this one he goes to a filo. But it really is Zeke. I mean you think about it. If Zeke has a career level day, that means they have the ball, they're possessing the ball, he's running well,

he's getting probably getting scores. Like everything about Zeke, and that's what this team is built around. Is I mean, how many times does Zeke had a great day and this team has not won any back Anybody's if your back. If your back has a great day, the likelihood is that you're going to win. It is that so they're built they're built around that. Can we make up our minds what they're built around? Because they were built around the pass for like three weeks and that's not working.

Built around the run. I think we found out is they they may have flirted with being built around the pass, but they weren't necessarily winning when they were built around or when they were passing the ball and not successfully running. Okay, they're built around the run. I choose one guy, and that's a coach. One guy because Jason Garrett has I don't even know how to quantify that. What's what's the best coached game of Jason Garrett's career? I'd have to

think about it. I mean, to his credit, he's definitely had some days where you were like, yeah, well, I mean Nick always says that, like you never get the good That's why it's hard to think about, but the bad ones, you're like, oh yeah, but unning them down things into the decision, Okay, are they choosing to keep running the ball if they're being if Zeke is doing a good job, because we've seen it in the past when k has been doing okay running the ball in

and all of a sudden they decide to switch it up and change it to the past. It's like they change things up when things are working, and then when things aren't working, they don't change it. You know. So if I had to pick a guy, yeah, give me the coach, make the right decisions in the game, and you will come out with the win. Well, speaking of coaching, this week, Jason Garrett did something that's getting some headlines around Cowboys reporters talking about the fact yeah, well he supposedly.

He showed the team these different clips of them playing at their best moments when they played at their best, trying to, I guess, get them to buy into the idea that you really are a great team. You really are a good team, You just need to play at

your best. And it made me start thinking as I was getting ready for the show last night, if this team were to play at its best, and I really started looking at it from player to player, position to position, what position would you say, And I won't make an individual player, but what position would you say? The delta between the best we've seen of them this year compared to the average of what they're doing, like this has

the biggest gap. Does that make sense? So where they're playing on average is down here, but where they've played at their very best is way up here. And if they can get back to being that, this team has a significant chance to be able to do something something because it have to be this season, Yes, Because here's the deal. You go back to last year, there are a lot of different variables that may have changed that

affect that. So I'd want to go with this year and what I've seen from because I think the offensive line, I'll give you an example. The offensive line, to me is a great example of this. I don't think any of them other than Lyle have played to the level that they've played in past years. But I think that there are reasons for that. I don't think buying large

most of the best offensive linemen are healthy. So going back and saying the best that they've been in past years, they're not gonn all of a sudden get health, right, I hear what you're saying. I know. I was just asking because I mean, from top to bottom, wherever you want to go, whoever you're disappointed with. Like the biggest gap between what we thought they could be in August

and what they've been is the line packer position. From in my opinion and the offensive line, you can mention them, that's but but they haven't played at that level all year round, right, That's what I'm saying. So, so, do you think that was an aberration last year because we haven't seen it this year? I don't know. I mean, it's too small of a sample size. Like I choose to believe that Jalen Smith, like Jalen Smith doesn't just suck like, I don't buy that. I don't think I

buy that. I think there's a lot of things that go into it, and I think it would be too quick to just write that off. Even if it has been a disappointing season. The defensive line needs to play their best game. I mean, and they we've seen some moments this year, and the Eagles game was one we you know, that's the one that that's the one position too. We talked about what player needs to play his best game. I mean if somebody like DeMarcus Lawrence played his best game,

you know, defensive ents can change games. I mean they can rate game. Yeah, I mean, what's the best game they've played? Probably Philly killed them, and part of that was the defensive line wrecked that thing from the start. They gave them fourteen points right off the bat, two short fields, and we've I mean, and we've seen that. We've seen games where they got five sacks. So them, I agree because because I don't think the linebacker play has been like great all year, whereas we have seen

great games from the past. Rush. You know, that's an interesting thing. You look at all the positions that you could possibly name to me, those defensive linemen and I'm talking specifically about the defensive ends and Tank Quinn and you can throw him ben it. There is no reason why they shouldn't be wrecking games like you. Just look at the talent level of those three players alone and

their abilities to get after the quarterback. There's no reason why we shouldn't be talking about them the way we talked about the Rams earlier this week. Having guys that are in the eight, nine, ten eleven range as far our sacks are concerned, there's no reason why we shouldn't be talking about them like that. But for some reason

it hasn't gotten going. And I think that if there is a position, I think they could get there if it just required them to just kind of maybe focus in a little bit more, maybe give a little more effort, whatever it is. I think that's a position where maybe you could turn it on and they could actually make a difference here down the stretch. There's always that, you know, chicken and egg theory about this pass rush helped secondary

player or a secondary help the pass rush. And I think in this case, when you look at the Rams, I think Ramsey has actually helped the Rams more than the other way around, because they were averaging two sacks a game in his first six games of the season. The last seven then he's been on the team, they're averaging four point one. So just a couple more seconds here and there of coverage has helped. So are you saying that there's an issue on the back of maybecause

just one example. I mean, I think I've always kind of thought that's more pass rush first, but that's just an example. Then now he has a really great corner, a great corner, and I don't know if the Cowboys have that guy that's kind of shutting him down for that long, but you know, you would like maybe one

more second there. But I think if they if they they need to be hot, you know, they claim that they are, they need to be you know, I've seen many times where the quarterback is just standing there forever. So it's like, even even if the corners are making some good coverage, it's like, Okay, at one point, you gotta go in there and get your guy because not everybody's getting doubled. That's the thing. Not everybody's getting doubled,

So beat your guy, you know. Yeah, And they should have the strength and the ability to do that, and we've seen it do it, and that's the thing. Like, to me, I really thought this defensive line after adding those two guys Bennett and Quinn, was really gonna be explosive, and it hasn't been that way. And it's really really disappointing because it's like, Okay, then what is it? What is it? Because clearly these guys have the size and the talent, so what's going on? And another guy was

Malie Collins, which was having a great training camp. And then because usually guys that go into their last year of their contract, they tend to spice up and play even better. And it hasn't been that way. I'm not saying he's played horribly or anything like that, but not what I thought he would be playing like this year, it's really like, it's a good point. Is I don't know individually Individually I look at all those guys and

I'm like, I like, not having a terrible season. Quinn speaks for himself, Malik had You're right, I mean, Malik's not setting the league on fire, but he's got like five sacks, Like, he's not having a terrible season. That Marcus clearly doesn't have the sacks, but he's a great, well rounded end. He's not having a bad season either. Michael Bennett has what three? And I mean he's he's made a difference for this team since they trade it

for him. All that sounds great individually, and you add it up and talk about the pass rush and you're like, they're they're not They're not special. Well, and that's weird though, and I'm not. I don't have an answer for it. I mean, we talked about it before the show. You know upstairs that Taco Charlton has more sacks than DeMarcus Lawrence. Did you Is that true? Yikes? Yeah, he's got five. One was against the Cowboys. Jacks aren't the only thing

that matters to defensive endplay. But that's fine, don't It's fine. I get it. Out. He's been out like he was a healthy scratch for them, you know, at least once. I don't know why. Yeah, I think it's it's to the point in the season. I will I will die on that hill that DeMarcus Lawrence is not playing poorly, but the contract dictates that you wreck games and he has not been doing that. I mean, that's fair to say, But I'll say this like that more than it being

an indictment on Tank. To me, it's more should the Cowboys have really made the move they did? Because for a guy that has five sex in Miami, you can't tell me that guy can't be a rotational guy for you. And you can say what you want about his attitude and all this other kind of stuff. I would argue there are other guys in that locker room, particular defensive line room, who may not have the greatest attitudes either, they may not be doing I want to see, I

want to go. I want to see the all twenty two of Tacos five sacks because I saw one against the Cowboys and it wasn't anything to get excited about. I get you. All I'm saying is in a league where pass rushers are at a premium. I just wonder, I just wonder if if that decision was a little bit hasty and and leaned a little bit too much on maybe the coaches saying he's not coachable or he's not whatever, as opposed to looking at him on film

and Sam and he's got something we can use. Maybe not perfect, but he's got something we can use as a situational pass Rusher. Well, I think with that, And I know I went down that road with talk, you know, mentioning that. But you know, Taco is, I guess an immature player, and when it comes to tweeting things about the team and I'm not going to play this week and stuff like that, making it at all about him, I think they were just tired of that. But you're right,

there's obviously some skill there. I mean, I don't see Dorn's armstrong lighten it up. It was just like, sometimes it's just not a good fit and it just doesn't work. You could be talented and stuff, and still it doesn't work out with the group of people that you're surrounded with. So absolutely got to move on. But if this team, if this, if the Cowboys, if the guys that made that decision Jerry and Jason and Will and then if they saw six and seven in their future, like they

saw that this year, they might not have done this. Yeah, because because like she just said, it's a good fit, okay, fit for who? Yeah? Who's the coaches next year? Who the defensive coaches? I also do kind of wonder if if that was if that was also their way of you know, sometimes coaches will use players to make statements to the locker room. I wonder if they felt like, well,

he's not gonna a great fit for us. Cutting him may also send them a message to other guys in the locker room that you need to be the right kind of guy. As we define the right kind of guy, I don't know. All I'm saying is follow in light of recent weeks. Well, that's also where I get back to. When you start talking about right kind of guy, are you sure you got the right kind of guys here? Like so so yeah, I just think the whole that whole thing to me is that's my point. That's where

I get That's where I get back to. That's where I get back to who's the right kind of guy? And what does that entail? Because for whatever reason, they're not winning number one, number two. I don't know that. Some of the things that we've seen here recently suggests that the right kind of guys are there in some instances. Yeah, I don't know. All right, real quick, before we end the show, let's go and get some picks. Let's start with Dave. Dave, tell me who you think is gonna

win this game? Give me a score. I'm pretty sure they're favored, by the way. Who the Cowboys really? Last time I checked? I believe. I'm dead serious. Actually, I think if they're not, then they opened as a favorite. And the money just came in hard on the Rams. One and a half for the Rams. Okay, it moved, I get I promise you it moves point I mean, broken record time. I still think that this is a talented team. I still do. They aren't playing like it, and I'm sure as hell not going to pick them.

They have not won since the beginning of the months, since the beginning of November. They didn't even look good doing that. Like they didn't look good against the Lions. They didn't look good when they beat the New York Giants way back on November fourth. Like the Giants are pitiful, and they kind of played around with them and finally put it away. Point being like, they really haven't played good football since like September. I get I've tweeted this

last night. I guess I knew this. I just hadn't thought about it in these terms, Like it sounds so crazy to say, like since they opened the season three and oh they're three and seven, and again that's obvious, but it just sounds it sounds different when you say it, right, they're not playing well. They haven't played well in the wins that they've gotten since Philly. Really that was the

last time they played well. That was October twentieth, and so I just I don't buy that they're gonna be yeah, yeah, well they played well against three bad teams at the start. Yeah, but it go back to it and they all had like slow starts and you started seeing those kind of the Absolutely, you're absolutely right, that's completely fair. Which point being there, I just don't buy that they're going to magically turn it on against the team that's fighting for

its playoff life. I got rams thirty to twenty four, right, Camber, Well, every week I get to this point and I can see it going down both ways to where I could see the Cowboys win and not be really surprised by it. But I am not making that mistake again. I am not picking them to win for the rest of the season, not even against the Redskins. But yes, Rams come out here. I think that the Rams are appointing their season where

they're really starting to click and figure things out. They're gonna come in here with a lot of energy and, like Dave said, fighting for their spot in the playoffs. So I think that team comes out with the win. Um, I would see like twenty four to seventeen something like that. Okay, yeah,

I've got twenty four to fourteen Rams. I just I'm not picking up I mean, I'm not go say I won't pick them again the rest of the season, but I'm not picking them in this game just because I just I don't think that they're better than them in any way. Really, um, I you know, sometimes you try to see how how is this gonna work? Well, I could see this happening, I really don't like. I don't see how it happens. I don't see him blocking that front, I don't see him running the ball consistently, and I

don't see special teams winning that battle. I don't see a lot of great, you know moments with to think, well, yeah, they're gonna win this game. So I hope I'm surprised it's true. Oh, I think four Bath will have a busy day. Our excellent producer Kyles. The Cowboys opened at three and a half point favorites and it shrank quick. Yeah, which makes for our money at that Um, I've said, I said it for the last couple of weeks. You

get to Thanksgiving, we know who you are. What this team has shown us so far doesn't mean they can't go against the trend. But what they've shown us so far is when you play a team that is worse record wise, typically you win. You play a team that's better record wise, you typically lose, and or you always in this case and this season, always have lost. So I can't in good faith pick the Cowboys to win

this game. This is a game where I think the Rams win it, and I think their best shot at it is next week against Philly and then finish up with a win against Washington, maybe you back into the playoffs. We ever had a unanimous slots call, Yeah, we passed. In other years, Okay, not this year, not this year. I mean they did you know, they did kick their ass in Hawaii. Yeah, there we go in the game.

Honestly that that was in San Francisco, damn it. But that that does factor back into this two a little bit. And back of my mind too, is the last time I saw these two teams match up, it wasn't even close, Like the Rams were clearly the best team. And so I can't shake that. On top of what I've seen this season, I just can't shake that that just the Cowboys not get me a reason to say that they're

gonna win it. Well, and at this point of the season, the Cowboys seem like they're going down heel and then the Rams this is where they're turning up, and they're going up right now. So it's difficult to put that right there though, is the one reason why it could happen? Because well, sure, and I don't think I don't know anybody else, No, yeah, I just if you know, they can they can come in the studio and crow at us about how we were wrong. If they want to, like,

good for you, you finally put it together. What do you want me to do? All I can do is judge what I watch? Yeah, and what how could you How could you pick a team that played the way they did in Chicago against a much better team? Yeah? Really, you go back the last few weeks. If you just talk about how the Cowboys have played here recently in the last several games, like, it's hard to say, and you look at the Rams and how they've played, it's hard to say you think the Cowboys are gonna be

able to get this win. That doesn't mean they can't, It just means it's hard to picture that. I do randomly think Amari Cooper is gonna have a hundred yard game. We will see it's I mean, not that anybody's gonna feel better about it because I think it'll be in a loss. But good for him. They've had plenty of good stats. You are right about that. All right, guys,

appreciate you. John Us we were back on Monday. We'll tell you what went right and what went wrong for the Cowboys toil then for Nick Even, Dave Helm and Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club