Cowboys Break: Horse Play

The Break. We are alive from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star, and man, do we have a lot to talk about today. Cowboys take their first and really only beat down of the season yesterday at the hands of the lowly Denver Bronco, or at least lowly as of what we thought of them on Friday, very very different team showed up on Sunday. They beat the

Cowboys thirty to sixteen. We're gonna tell you what what our thoughts were on that game before we get to that real quick, Nick, give me a fifty six fifty six, Um, how about Eugene the hitting machine Lockhart. Here we go. That's a good could have used the hitting machine. Yesterday definitely could use a little hitting machine. Yeah, that was a that was a rough game, man. I just I don't think that any of us, I know, none of

us expected what we saw yesterday. Even if in some of some of your somewhere in your wild imagination you could have imagined that Cowboys were gonna lose that game, nobody thought it would be a beat down like that. Let's start first, though, I want to get a big picture storyline from each of you guys of what was yesterday. Dave, I see that look on your face. Let's start with you.

What was your big picture story you take from the big picture from yesterday or big picture because I gotta tell you a story from yesterday, Okay from Yester, Well, I think yesterday was just a classic example of what we mean when we say this is the NFL. Like that's why we throw that out there all the time. And people have been tweeting me for the last eighteen hours like, oh it was a trap game. They were

looking ahead. No, it's the NFL, and the gap between the good and the mediocre and the bad is shockingly small. And if you don't come with it, you're gonna get your ass kicked. That's my big picture takeaway, and that's why having had a chance to really think about it and look around the rest of the NFL. Do you want to lose No? Do you want to get embarrassed in your own house? No? But like I feel a lot better than I bet a lot of people do right now, because I'm just like, it's a weird league

for whatever reason. I don't think the Cowboys showed up thinking they needed to try yesterday and they got a harsh reminder and you pick up the pieces and move forward. Stuff happens during the course of a now seventeen game season, and I feel I'm sorry if I like a Homer. I feel pretty confident that it's more of a blip than some sort of crazy indicator that this team's actually bad. Amber I'm not worried. I wasn't even mad. I was like watching the game and just complete disbelief. You know,

when you're like, what the heck is happening? But at the same time, I know that that's not them, Like what happened yesterday is not really them. Despite all the mistakes that they've made throughout the season, I truly believe that they're gonna come back next week and play, and actually they can't get out. I thought we were gonna fight like all day today. I'm shocked to hear this coming out of your mouth. Was so I told it about this yesterday last night, and I was gonna look

it up, and I just completely forgot. But and I know this is a different team, different coaches and everything, But you guys remember several years ago when they played in Denver that they played pretty much saying makes that way. It was embarrassing and we didn't really know what the heck happened because every single player had a bad game that day. Do you guys remember how they came back and played the next few weeks? Not off the top of my head, to be honest with you, they went

nine and seven that year. I know that I wanted to look it up, but anyways, my point is, I think it was just that exact game that that you just don't really know what happened in all levels coaching the players on defense, on offense. And I'm sure we'll get into the whole thing, but at the end of the day, I'm really not that concerns. Yeah, I think that they can clean it up and come back and play better for another wind? Nick what Nick body language?

I'm curious. I think they I mean, you know, you guys said if they got outplayed out, hit out, block out, tackled out, coached out, cheered and verbroncos dot com, maybe they had a better day than as. I don't know. I'm just saying that every everything was better. Their stories were probably better. It's more fun. It's more fun to write about a dominant win than an ass kicking. Yeah, but they they I think they just underestimated them the whole game. And I think it starts with McCarthy. You know,

I don't. I don't. I don't blast this guy like like other people do. I give them the praise. I think coaches get praise when they win. And I think that, you know, I put it on them to start. I think I think going out the way they did and saying I thought, and I said this on the radio this morning, I thought they played the game like you would play Madden. You know, I'm gonna just I'm gonna score here. I'm not kicking a field goal. I'm just

gonna score your kid. Oh yeah, yeah, I didn't catch Okay, we didn't get it I'll get it the next time. We'll stop them, we'll get it the next time. And it just and they just kind of underestimated them. And you know, I didn't have a problem with the first fourth down. I had a problem with the second one. And you know, even though the even though they could

have got it, but they didn't. You know, I'm a little bit more concerned than you guys are, just because I like, well, we'll see, we'll see what they are. But if you put that on tape, now I know what you've got. Now, I know you can play like crap and you can get blown out at home to an average team with no star power. So it's a little bit concerning. Your eyes are open, like we'll see,

we'll see what happens this week. Yeah, you mentioned that those calls there at the beginning of the game, and I think that was actually a part of that thinking. Was a part of the reason why I think they got what they got is because to me, that signify the fact that in both those situations, you know, you got fourth and one at Denver thirty eight, you got fourth and two at Denver twenty Neither time did you try for field goal. You just say we're going to

go for it. And I kind of agree a little bit more with the fourth and one and thirty eight, that's a pretty long field goal. Give it a shot. Fourth and two with the twenty that's where and I didn't kill him. I'll be honest with you. I didn't kill him because I had the same mentality, which was, I'm not scared of this team. Worst case scenario. I think the defense is going to stop them from scoring more points in their offense is going to be able

to score. So take a shot, be aggressive. And I think that also is what bit him in the butt. I think they went into that game thinking we're just a better team, so we're gonna try some things, and I think they started pressing as the game went on. I think that's why guys were dropping balls. I think that's why guys were, you know, dak is overthrowing guys

that are open. I think it's because they felt like they were a better team and at some point their betterness was just going to take over, right And when it takes over, then we'll run away with this game. And I think it played out just the opposite because, as they said, Dave, this is the NFL and anybody can beat you any given week. I do agree with that, and I definitely I thought they pressed And yeah, I

mean that's such a great analogy. It reminded me of me trying to win the Heisman on NC DOUBLEA football. It's like, I gotta throw for four to fifty and five touchdowns if I'm going to stay in the race. And that's I thought Dak played that way. I thought everybody played that way. It was just like, yeah, I gotta I gotta get these stats up. We gotta remind people who we are, and you kind of lose sight

of the big picture, which is winning the game. Having said that, I don't have an issue with the aggressive play calling. To be honest with you, well you never do. Let's be honest. That's the way, right, But fifty five yard field goal, I mean, we've we've been I think we all agree with that. And then the second one, I mean, I can't believe. And who is a bigger

Dak homer than yours? Truly, I can't believe we're killing the decision Instead of the forty million dollar quarterback who biffed it to the Cedric Wilson's ankles complete the pass it wasn't tipped. Dak said it himself. Complete the easy past to Cedric Wilson and keep the chains moving the offense. Even still with how am surprised and impressed we are with the way the defense is played. The offense is your ticket. That's why you're gonna win games. That's why

you're gonna get where you want to go. Complete a very easy past to Cedric Wilson. Dak Prescott, I don't have a problem with it at all, but it's just it's a microcosm of everything they just they did. They didn't do anything right. You throw it at Cedric Wilson's ankles. Amari Cooper, I bet he saw like he saw that catch over the middle of the third and one that he dropped in his mind as the ball's coming at him, He's like, I'm gonna house this, We're gonna be it's

gonna beet nineteen to seven. Still got a chance. Yeah, then it's on the ground. And that's just at every aspect of the team. They just couldn't do anything right all day. And also bet that this morning when he woke up, he was still seeing that ball not going into his hands and hitting the ground. Like, how did that drop that pass? Because that's not a pass that he took. Somebody put out a graphic on Sunday night that was like, Amari Cooper's been targeted X amount of

times this season. Sunday night after the Vikings game, I'm sorry, you know, with the juggling catch and the game winner, and they were like, he hasn't dropped a target this year, and what are the odds that he finally has a drop and it is as wide open and easy as it's going to be for as good of a player

as he is. You guys mentioned earlier, nick I think you mentioned that you give a little you give someone the blame to Mike McCarthy here, and he even said after the game, he said, we got out coaching, we got out played. There was something though, he said after that that caught my attention, and nick I mentioned it

team last night. He said, maybe I over coached the penalties this week, and that jumped out at me because when you think about how the Cowboys played, they were they did seem to be a little bit they lost a little bit at edge that we've seen them play with. And when he said maybe I over coached penalties, this week. It made me think, was this a situation where he all week was harping on them, don't don't go to that edge, don't go there, like you gotta make sure

you're not getting these dumb penalties. And because of that, maybe they were a little more tentative, maybe they lost a little bit that age. What were your thoughts on that comment. That's interesting that he would say that, And you know, I don't know if it translates to that at all, but it felt like something they weren't tackling those guys and those running backs. You know, they were good backs, I guess, but but I mean they're not like you know, Jim Brown Walter Peyton, which they made

it out to be in that game. I mean, they just they didn't tackle. They didn't they didn't bring them to the ground. I thought they got beat on second down. I really did. I thought, because you get ten tackles for a loss, that is that is insane amount of tackles for loss. But how many times were the second and fourteen and then they'd get a run for twelve yards and announced third and two and then they would

convert it. So I don't I don't know if that was it or not, But I wouldn't worry about it for this game because it ain't happen in this game. I promise you their defensive coordinator knows who they're playing this game, and their guys are going to play to their level of their defensive coordinator, and the aggressiveness will definitely be there for this game. This is an entirely subjective way to look at it, and I don't like talking about fantasy football, but I have Melvin Gordon and

Javonte Williams on my team. I've they've been there and injuries have forced me to play these guys, and I like all week, I was like, those guys haven't done crap all year, and nobody knows that better than me. I was shocking to see the way that they broke contact. I mean, their their yak must have been it. I mean they ran for one ninety one and I like

two thirds of it must have been yak. It felt like they were slipping a tackle every time they touched the ball, do you think And I noticed this during the game a lot of times, where they ended up being broken tackles and guys kept getting more yards. It looked like the defenders were reaching for the ball, grabbing at the ball. Do you think that maybe they've kind of overcoached trying to get the turnover and not emphasize enough or one thing is get the guy down, mate,

that's pressing, like I said, the whole team. It's like, well, if we can strip this guy here, then then the offense has a short field and we can get back on track. We can make it thirteen to seven. And all of a sudden, you're not focusing on getting the guy down and he's got twelve yards when he should have had three. I just don't think how do you

blame that on over coaching? I mean, how do you take such a step backwards when they've been playing the way that they have, you know, like, it doesn't make sense to me. The one thing, and I get it, like if you emphasize something so much like hey, be careful, look for this, do that, do this, Yes, but that's just such a drastic change. So I would have to think that he had to come down with them maybe feeling a little over confident and thinking like you guys

were talking about, which again it's another thing. I'm like, Okay, where they have they been feeling kind of cocky. Have they been feeling kind of was that? Has that even been live? I'm glad you brought that. I mean, I'm glad you brought that up, because it's really all I've been thinking about. And we don't have as good of a sense of the vibe of the team as we used to. We don't see them nearly as often as

we would pre code. We're not in their locker room where you kind of hear those side conversations and see, yeah, and we're and you know, they bring four guys a day out here to talk to us in a very weird setting. It's just not the same. But and the big thing too, is you're never gonna get a guy to directly say like, yeah, we didn't take this team seriously. That's that's like a suicidal type of quote, right, That's just something that you're not going to get a guy

to say. But if you pass through the quotes, there were a couple Layton vander esh six different times he was like, I think we needed this. I you know, this is the type of thing that that can help us in the long run. And then Dak was asked directly if if you felt maybe you felt a little too high. Maybe you're a little too high on yourself. And it's a long quote. I'm not going to read the whole thing, but he said, with everything that went

wrong in this game, I would say maybe. And then he goes on and he says, when you win a game like we did last week on the road, in a tough environment, everything going against you, I think sometimes you think you can just roll out there and get it done. And again he goes on to say a lot more and he's like, there was not a point up until the last five six minutes of that game where we still didn't believe we could get it done.

And why not Minnesota, New England fifteen penalties, everything going against you, you you still find a way to get it done. And he said, when it finally sinks in that it's not going to happen, you're reminded that this is the NFL, this is a really tough business, and again, you're not gonna get it direct Like, yes, we didn't try as hard as we could have, but I just think there was an edge lacking. I think they probably thought, like, man,

who's gonna mess with us? If we can go do that in Minnesota with Cooper Rush, this is the mortalizing game. And you know, and we've felt it. I mean we've seen it on the road. We've seen the Cowboys. I mean, I guarantee the Chargers felt that way. You know, when they walk into their home stadium and they feel that way, and the Vikings maybe last week too. I mean, you know,

that's the nature of the league. That's what happens. And then you give them a lot of reasons to get loud and cheer and stuff like that, so then you know you had that going against you. And I mean, as a special teams player, all you want to do is block a punt. I mean that's all you want to do. That that that changes the game. And you can't even do that, right, I mean, you can't even do You can't even block a punt. Right. That's when you know it's not your day. When you block a punt,

you don't get the football. I mean, everything that and I know you're probably gonna talk about it, but everything that you when you come out of halftime, you were this is a third quarter team. We got to get a stop to get off the field. We gotta get and then they block a punt and you still don't get the football and the next thing you know, it's nineteen that it doesn't make sense age You can't you were you were watching like the Fox. What channel wasn't

on Fox? You were watching the TV broadcast? Right? Were the announcer's hip to what was going on immediately? No? Okay, because that's well to be fair, I had the English the Spanish broadcast, but people did not really know what was going on. I like, we always talk about you miss something by not having all of that information coming at you. You've kind of got to figure things out for yourself. In the press box, me and Nick were on the same page as like three plays kicked their ass,

blocked the punt. This is it's gonna be It's gonna be tight. But this is how it happens. And they go to commercial. The guy with the oven mittens down on the field with the neon orange of them, and you're like, okay, they're at commercial. The offense will be out, and then all of a sudden, the Denver offense is trotting out and you're it's dawning on you like, wait,

what what's going on? And then the ref makes his announcement like it hit me like a ton of bricks when I realized that the offense wasn't going to have the ball back because we had gotten no indication otherwise that that was going to happen. Yeah, that was It was huge, And you know it. You can argue all day long with it. And I mean, and I've already done that this morning, and it's it's a rule change that needs to be I mean, it's a change in the rules. I think that needs to happen. Um, it's

rare when this situation. My my take to the whole thing is if the result of the play does not result into a first down, then then it should be the Cowboys ball. That's the way I look at it. And maybe there's some nuances I don't I don't know of, But if if it's fourth and twelve and all this weird crap happens and they get seven yards with the ball, then that's where the ball should be. You did not get a first down. And I don't understand it. I don't.

I just I don't get it. It kind of makes my brain hurt thinking about it, to be on because I can imagine why it exists. Like I can think of a scenario where a guy gets a finger on it and it goes past the line of scrimmage and some wonky stuff happens. I'm sure you know the game can surprise you, right, like the more you watch, the

more new stuff you see. But yeah, I mean, that's that seems focused like you know what I don't understand, because in the same way, what I don't understand is why we haven't seen this play out more because we see times when a guy gets a fingertip on a punt and I'm surprised that that hasn't happened in a situation where the guy kind of, you know, fair catches it,

but he doesn't catch it. It It just kind of bounces and he goes down the and the the other team goes down and downs the ball that would be their ball. And I don't know that the guy back there getting the that's gonna catch the punt always knows that a fingertip actually one of his guys actually got a fingertip on it. I'm just surprised that this has never happened before and that I've seen it in football and this kind of scenario where a guy someone recovers just because

the ball was partially tipped or a distance. It was blocked, but it was even partially tipped. It's kind of surprising that this hasn't come up to where I've seen that type of scenario usually doesn't get hit right there at the line of scrimmage like that, you know. And I talked to Nashan right after the game, and you know, he was you know, he said that, you know, he knew that he's standing at the line of scrimmage and he's he's like, I know, the rule came at him fast. Yeah, yeah,

well and he's trying to make a play. I don't have any fault for him, and um, I can tell you more about that here after at the break. It's interesting. But yes, no, it's fine. I mean, it's got the tea. Well, yeah, I mean, it's it's fine. He you know, he did a good job. I applaud him, yeah, for for talking and and and saying what happened and given his take on it and given some quotes and all that. I applaud him for for standing there and doing it. It

is I mean, it's bizarre. Yeah, me neither. I can't wait to get to the break. But y'all know, oh okay, y'all know I'm watching the video over again, and uh, I mean, if he can corral that ball, he has at least an outside chance to score. Can you can advance a block punt, can't you? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's got the Uh, it's just okay, this is what avalanche of. This is what I hate about it. Like, you know how big I am on stats. I'm a

stat geek and all that. First time in the history of the NFL, there's a lot, a lot of the things have happened in NFL games. Malik Turner, I want to call him MALIEK. Cooker. Malik Turner would have been the first player in the history of the NFL to catch two touchdowns and block a punt in the game. But the NFL rules, the stats are not calling it a block punt. They just call it a two yard punt and a muff by Nishan. Right. I just watched it again. It hits him in the shoulder pad. That's

how different three or four inches can be. If he gets his hands over here and blocks, it goes backwards, they recover it. Maybe safety whatever, a safety probably would have been better than a touchdow. Yeah. Actually, honestly, just because the ball and that brives me. Somebody like Dwayne Harris wouldn't have done that at Saint. That goes back to how surprising all of this was, because I remember you talking about that. You were like, oh, like a

safety could have done this. And then you score and then or then you get the ball back and you have a chance to get nine a little bit, and then the refs are like Denver's keeping the ball, like when that never happened, Like, God, I see nothing before, just the worst afternoon ever. Yeah, And then there was times in the press box that long catch that Teyvron Diggs knocked it out, Treyvon Diggs, we need to talk about him. We're gonna get to him. He's streaking in

the wrong directly. But but that play that then they've written and reviewed it, they challenged it, and we're all in said the same thing, like, it doesn't seem like it would be a catch in a FuMB oh every day. Yeah, probably every fiber of me thought that they were going to give that the if you're the yeah, the contested catch that the day was going to. It was just kind of like, yeah, that's that just seems like it fits. We just felt like you were caught in an avalance.

That's the food good in the press. Body good. Weather was nice, yeah, very nice. Everything everybody got home, okay, yeah, everything other than other than the game itself was really good. Are we gonna take our first Broncos? Like going throughout the stadium that was I think they're still out there channing We're gonna take our first break when we come back. I do want to dive in a little bit more to this offense and talk about specifically what was happening

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read ready, Nick, You're on it today? Good? Uh, let's let's let's jump back in and I want to talk slaphically. I mean you're not violent. Uh okay, hold onto last night in the press box after you had left, because it was you know, it was really wow shot you leave like about an hour and a half after. Yeah, I'm not writing stories that. I actually surprised you stay

that long, honestly, honestly long because of the raff. Yeah, okay. Anyways, we're talking about something and and the fraternity comes out, remember somebody it's that or something that about I'm gonna throw up the hooks and I said, no, don't, don't do that. Me and Dave can can attest to that, like you could get the appreciated. That's a little different. That didn't have anything to do with regular like you. Is that what it's called seeing him Rick Flair chop

him in the in the chest. It's true that that he caught me by surprise. I wasn't expecting it. It It was just kind of out of the blue. It was actually my fault because he did the hooks the night before. I took the picture of it and then I showed you and then you hit him and you're like, what was that for it? And he was like laugh fair. They was like, yeah, it's true. Is that to me? Once? On my arm and it hurts. I did, what can we can we get back that? Right? What are we

doing here? Like the cow devastated cowboys trying to make sense of this loss? They were, well, the fine orange Okay, I mean, we don't need to do this, but I mean that's that's just the nature of this. By the way, it's gonna happen again in two weeks when I mean through the two weeks was three weeks. Whenever they whenever the Raiders come here, I guarantee you there's gonna be a lot of black and silver in the building again.

Because you're talking about as you as you guys always talk about when you're playing the AFC, you're playing in Division. You haven't played him at your house in eight years, which means they're fans who were in town are going to say, that's a destination game. That's an opportunity for me to go to a game. Combination, a combination of things too. It's not you gotta have. I mean, I don't think the New York Jets are bringing a ton

of fans. It's a fan base, very loyal fan base, and people say that like that they travel, well, I don't think so. I think there's a ton of different Ronco fans in the area. Although I will say this. I will say this. I had to travel Sunday coming back into Town Houston from Houston. When I was getting back, I was taking a shuttle to my car and the guy was driving a shuttle. He saw that I was that I had on like I pult already put on my credential and he was like, you're going to game dawn.

I was like yeah. He's like, man, I've seen a ton of people coming from Denver. And that was early in the morning. I took a seven o'clock flight ready. He was like, I've seen a lot of people flying in this weekend from Denver that we're coming in for the game. And I was like, wow, that's pretty interesting. I was. I thought it was like you, like a lot of people just live here, but maybe they do travel well. I love the well. Also, you got to think about geography too. I don't know why we need

to get into the weeds on this. No, I think this type of stuff fascinates me though. Look at a map, Denver is the only NFL city anywhere near like six different states. So like, if you live in Colorado, New Mexico, Wyoming, Nevada, the western part of like Kansas, Netta, like the Idaho Montana. Like there's just this huge geographic reason where it probably makes sense to be a Broncos fan. They've been good.

By the way, they do have a large following. When you look just around the league, who has what following on digital, They've got a largest Dallas is a super easy city to get to. It is a huge transplant city, so I'm sure there are a lot of people living here. But even if you don't, it costs like two hundred dollars to fly here on Southwest, and it's at and T Stadium. People want to see it. It's a popular place to go. Oh and by the way, they kick

the crap out of the Cowboys. Like if the Cowboys had done what we thought they were going to do, all that orange would have been gone by the end of the third and nobody would care. I mean it turnabouts fair play, right, Like it's cool when the Cowboys take over US Bank. Well, sometimes that's gonna happen when you play a big fan base. He's like, you've got these newer stadiums, just like for Cowboys fans that maybe

in the Minnesota area are close to it. It's an opportunity to go see a new stadium, so you also draw people out to go see their team in that stay. There's a financial component too. It's really expensive to go to NFL games. If you hold tickets to the Cowboys and you think, like, man, I can make a lot of my money back selling two or three of these. Let me sell some Broncos tickets and get my costs back. Feeling it's not gonna be that bad for the Raiders.

You don't, no, maybe not seeing it. Yeah, this is like this is where this will be their third Thanksgiving Day game at this stadium. That's rare. I mean yeah, I didn't know that. Well, something weird happened. I don't know why. With the Chiefs and the Raiders back right, nine and thirteen. Yeah, they played, they played, they didn't they did back to back. Yeah, they didn't flip. They

didn't flip. We played the Chiefs and O nine and in thirteen on the road and played the Raiders at nine and thirteen on both of them were Thanksgiving Day games. So did you say this? Okay, go ahead. I think it's stupid and sorry to put it that way, but very I mean, and I get a fan noise and all that, but at the end of the day, like it's it bothers me when people use that all there was a ton offense of the opposing team or whatever

taking over and all that. At the end of the day, it's not the fans fault, like, and I get it. It does mess with how you hear things and all that, but when you're focused on there or whatever, you're trained to do this kind of stuff. You know. I haven't been able to go to a practice, but we've seen it years after year how they practice and they make it as loud as possible. You can hear the noise through the windows. You don't even have to look outside,

you can just hear it. Yeah. Yeah, So I don't know, it's just like just play better. You should have no absolutely, And I don't think. I don't think any of this is an excuse. It's more just kind of an anecdotal funny thing. Well, I think I think it's more than that, but that's fine. I do. I do think it plays so psychologically with them as well. It's like being booed at home, you know, because because then it represents of why this is happening. We're here at home in this

place and and we're we're getting, we're getting. You know, this crowd is over shattering our crowds kind of like you get home from a bad day and your family's heckling you because you had a bad day, Like you're you're playing it just it represents that you're you're really focused. They weren't listening to that stuff. I've played soccer, I've been on fields, I've done performances, and it's weird what

your brain does and stuff. But if you're really focused, you don't hear anyone there is Tony Pollard, Amari Cooper, uh Ceedee Lamb, Dalton Schultz. I mean, they all, they all showed that they weren't focused at times. And then and then dak had I mean they weren't focused. And the difference of also, right, football is a little different

because you have these starts and stops. Right, if you're on the offense, while you're on the field, you're probably right, you're not noticing the crowd because you're into the game. When you go sit out on the sideline and you're sitting there, you're noticing everything, and it's probably even more appearing to you, like is that are they saying, let's

go Broncos? Like what are we doing us? Good? Play a better game and you won't like, No, one don't care they were about to talk about I was about to say, we can talk about something good, but I don't think we're gonna do it if we're gonna talk about the left tackle, because well, I was a bad day. Real what could we talk about that pertains to the Cowboys? That would be good? Right now? They they had I mean, they drafted the right guy, they drafted, they did this guy. Well, well,

here's the part I think we gotta. I don't want to overstate how he played because I do think some of the stuff that I saw in the run game, particularly, he wasn't great against the run yesterday. And by the way, there were some moments where there were lots of people having issues stopping the run and he was a part of that. So I don't want to overstated it like he had a phenomenal day. He did obviously show up

when he came to making tackles for lost. He had the sacks to an hour of sacks, so yes, give him the credit for that, But I don't think he had just a stellar day. This was not to be fair to Nicholas. All I said was did anything good happen? Good? Okay? Yeah, yeah, exactly all right. But at the same time, I mean, how can you be phenomenal or have a stellar day

when everybody else around you is playing like crap? You know, he can call the way, But at the same time, I think that it does affect you, like and we've talked about it, when everybody else's energy is up high and playing well, it just it's uh contagious. So I think that he did the best. Well I'm not gonna see the best best, but you know, out of everything that happened, he was the best one out there. And

that's and that is going to happen. You know, when when your defensive tackles are a little bit suspect at times. Any linebacker, I mean, ray lewis probably a garden center got to that next level and got to him. It pretty probably didn't win all of them and that and a lot of that was on him. You got to be able to fight fight that off. But I just I love the way that I love the way he's playing, and I think I think they've got something there now. I think I think they've figured it out. He's not

a pass rusher. He's a linebacker that can rush the passer um. I don't think he's an outside rusher or whatever. I don't think they would. He is like this. He is. This is exactly what I want him to be. A linebacker who can cover sideline to sideline, isn't a total liability in the passing game, and can get you one to three sacks in a game in game eight, eight or nine tackles for loss in a season is pretty

good for a linebacker. He's had seven and two games since they took the green dot off of him and let him go play and not call the place. He's had four last week at three this game tackles for as he's living back there, and that's not even counting the sacks and PF which I know, I know it's PF. But they credit him with twenty four pressures on the season, which is most among rookies, tied with a guy who plays defensive end. I think he's gonna win Rookie of

the Year. I do too. I don't think it's even in question. I mean, I think and don't get me wrong. I think he's having a phenomenal season, especially when you put in the context that he's a rookie. I think the amount of impact that he's having on this team is extremely special for it off ball linebacker. Now, like you don't see that like this is and I don't want to I don't want to say he's ray Lewis, but that's the kind of thing you saw from a

guy like that. We had such an impact that most middle linebackers just really don't have in a lot of different facets of how they play defense. He's having that kind of impact. I get that, but I think yesterday and then goes back to what Day was saying, I don't know that I can point out a single person that I thought had a really stellar day. And in a game like that, it's hard to have a stellar day across the board because the team is performing so poorly,

and NFL football is a team sport. Yeah, right, a league turner, I mean blocked a punt and he had two touchdowns there, And yeah, he didn't like we were talking to him. I tried to say the word garbage time, and he kind of cut me off in the middle of the where it said like it wasn't garbage time for us, and I was like, I'm sorry, Yeah, I guess. You know, it never is when you're the player on your Yeah, it's not. Ye's that's what he's been waiting for. And yeah he did a nice job. Yeah, and then

they made it respectable, I guess. But everyone knows that was a thirty to nine. Yeah, it won't when you go back and look at this season in years to come, if you happen to look at the scores, you won't look at that game and say it was as bad as it actually was. But we all know that was a That was a blowout. They got destroyed. I bristle and have for I've fought with people for years about whether or not Dak puts up stats in garbage time.

Leading a team back Atlanta Cleveland last year, starting the comeback when the third quarter starts, and battling all through the second half, that's not the same. This was garbage time. Yeah, this was the last two possessions of the game. The Broncos are trying to get the hell out of there. He had one hundred and twenty of his two hundred and thirty yards on the last Fantasy wise like he ended up with like twenty four. He saved my point,

he saved my day. He saved like Yeah. No, he wound up having a great and he had single digits, which is stupid. By the way, that's exactly right. I think they ought to have at They ought to have a number for quarterbacks for you to get some points, so you lose some points if you win or lose, like I think that matters too. But anyway, um, let's talk about the tackle, um, Terence steele Man. It's for the first time this year because we really haven't had

to talk about him negatively this season. Um, he didn't have a great game. There were lots of moments where he was getting beat and just wouldn't be able to hold up at the point of attack. That all being said, my question for you guys, do you think it was a bad decision decision for them to push him to left tackle rather than keep him on right and uh and then you know, obviously they put Collins back at the right tackle position, which is where he always was.

This would be a great opportunity to thump my chest and say told you so, because that's what I wanted. I wanted still to stay it right and Inseci and Collins to just fight it out at practice and see who looked better by the end of the week. It to a degree, it is hindsight, though, because again Lyle Collins hasn't played left tackle since he was in college twenty fourteen. He's been in the NFL for seven years. He's never done it, not even in practice or training camps.

So maybe maybe muscle memory is a degree of that. Maybe he's so used to playing it that he would have stepped in and been fine and played a lot better. I can't say that for sure, and I can't I can't say for sure that he wouldn't have struggled either, But for some reason, I just trust a Lyle to do that more than I trust a young guy who hasn't played as many games, who's not as used to the strength and speed of the NFL. And oh, by

the way, I do think that matters. Lyle played like three seasons at LSU at left tackle, and probably in high school as well. If I had to guess, and I do that many years of doing it over and over again, I feel like you don't lose it. He even said when they moved him to guard at practice. When he first came back, he was like, yeah, I played on the left side of my whole life. It's just it's ingrained in me. Um So I feel like he I feel like he might have handled it better,

but there's no way to know. Well. First thing I want to do is figure out what's going on with it with Tyrn Smith, Like do you need surgery? Like if he needs surgery, I would do it. I would have done it yesterday. I mean, do clean out the bones whatever it is. And yeah, you don't he is needed down the stretch. You don't have to fight through this thing. Yeah. Not lucky, but I mean they didn't really lose much in the division. I mean, the Giants won the Giants one, but but they they they jumped

in there. I mean, I mean that was that was kind of because if Philadelphia would have beaten the Chargers, Yeah, they're starting to kind of way more huge in my opinion, so they're three and a half game lead. Not that, but but I would I would get I'd figure that out with the left tackle spot with him, but I would have moved um Lyle. I think Lyle should should be should be moved over to the left tackle. I

mean Terrence Steele said it himself. I mean I asked him about out and he said, I would say it was a little harder than I thought would be moving to left. They have a good defense, good defensive ends, and they were giving me a challenge, and they traded von Miller. I mean, can you imagine what would have happen there? Yeah? Yeah. Now, now he didn't play in the Rams. I don't know what do you play, So

maybe he wouldn't have played either. Maybe I don't know, but you know, he's been doing good on the right side. Just probably so I'm watching the game, things start happening, I'm like, good. That's why you get because you you stand for you to show up. You stand up there during press conferences and talk about how important content, continuity, continuing, continuity, continuity is in the old line, and then you want to make that change. And and we we saw how

he was last year. We see a guy that's been doing well this year. Why mess it up? Why talk about keeping it consists in and not making as many moves as you know you don't need that. You got a guy like lel who's a veteran guy who has the experience. Yes, everything that Dave said, absolutely, but at the same time, I do trust Lyle to be better at that spot. Then you having to have Lyle back then move turn Steel to the other side. There's no need for that, and if there is, then just say it.

Don't be talking about keeping it consistent during the whole week and last week too. So when I watched it, yes, it sucked for the Cowboys. Well, my good, that's why you got You know. It's funny is we always talk about, well, you know, just move moves Ac Martin out there, just moves Ach Martin out to write tackle if you need to, you know, but like no one says he hasn't done that since college and all that. So and that's from

guard to tackle. So but yeah, because he's Ak Martin and everyone thinks he's great and he could do it, and he could he cast so that's why it's like, well, if he can do that, then I think I think Lyle could could move over to the left side. But but if he's not willing to do that for whatever the reason, then I think you need to open this up and maybe think maybe Tye and Secky's a better option here. He might be he might be a better

option than Terrence Stealing. I just wonder now if, like, are they kind of having these sort of panicky conversations as well, or is it do you just stay the course like you're only again kind of going back to last year, like you're only gonna get better doing it more? So I hope no, I hope they don't panic with anything like. That's the kind of game where you can't overdo it like you can. You can come out of that game and start thinking, oh, do we need to

do this week? So that's what I'm saying. I mean, I think this is a kind of game where you say, Okay, let's all take a breath. Okay, we didn't play our best football. There might be some tweaks you might need to make, But I wouldn't make any kind of major declarations coming out of that. I just thought of something too, you know, And they know more about what the timetable is for Tyrann Smith. But let's say that they didn't

do that. Let's say that they kept Steal on the right side and they put lyel over there on the left side, and what Tyrn comes back next week two weeks we don't know then what are you doing? Now? You gotta make the same decision again. Now are you down? Terrence Steele's played seven great games on the right side, Now you're moving him over there. Like maybe they looked at this, like we know Tyrant's coming back in a

couple and Lyle's going to be our right tackle. Let's get him in here and now now Terrence still will be the swing tackle. This may be open. Maybe it means that Tyrn Smith's not too far down the road here, right, And let's just McCarthy said he doesn't see it as

a long term issue. Called McCarthy lies to us all the time, But I gotta I can only go off of what he says, and I haven't heard anything privately that contradicts that, And so I don't know if that means he plays against Atlanta, But I would imagine the team doesn't think he's Like people know what you mean when you say that, Like would you say that about McCarthy, But that he lies to us, he's playing the game

that they can't play. If you follow the NFL closely enough to be listening to our podcast, you know that coaches lie about and they should. I don't. I get it. I don't. I don't expect him to. That's what I'm saying. And I hope because there's something, there's more to it than just like I just I do. I will say Garrett, Garrett just kind of hit everything behind this vague cloud and a smile. Fair McCarthy's a little McCarthy's a little more willing to just directly tell you something. That's the

opt I don't want to tell you that case. Yeah, And that's again, I don't blame him, I get it right, but I don't. I don't trust what he says as much as I might trust somebody else. But that's okay. Yeah. I think the thing also to consider here that we haven't really discussed is the fact that Terrence still is supposed to be your swing tackle. So if he's supposed to be your swing tackle, that means he should be

able to pop between the two. That doesn't mean he's gonna do it well, but that doesn't mean that's the role. That's what they think he is is a swing tackle for them, and so maybe what we're finding out is he's a pretty good right tackle and that's it. It's a period after that there is no. Maybe he's not a swing tackle. Maybe he's just a pretty good right tackle. They haven't had to deal with this yet, but if Tyron does come back, they might have to look at

this and go, we might need to keep four tackles active. Yeah, you know that's something. You know, maybe a right side guy. Maybe he and Lyle they're just right tackles, and maybe Zeki's your best left tackle if times out. That's not ideal at all. But then also that's where Lyle's versatility to play some guard could help true as well. I just want to say, and all of this is warranted, it's easy to beat up on the tackles because that's where it did. They did the shuffling. The whole line

kind of got bullied. I don't remember. I'd have to go back. Was running for his life a lot. Zack Martin got They got the better of him at least twice. I just remember a couple plays where they ran like a game and Zach is kind of catching up to get back in front of the guy. And if you remember that's I was like, well, Dak's calf is fine because he's had to bail and loop out of the pocket at least three times all throughout that game. He especially in the second half, and again like that they

were coming. I mean, he just was a beating across across the depth chart. Name your spot they got. I didn't whip see any limping. He looked pretty normal from that standpoint. The passes were off, though it looks like

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two yards, two touchdowns, one interception. My question for you guys is how much do you think that Dak being out for as long as he was, plus the fact that last week when he's coming back and able to practice fully, he doesn't have most of his receivers because they were also injured. And I think CD may have practiced Saturday, but most of the week they were not practicing.

How much do you think all of that combined was what we saw yesterday that they just went on you know, you have one guy that's out of practice, you kind of can they can jump back in and just kind of pick up where they left off. We have that much changed. See how much do you think that that was factor? I'm sure it did. And also you throw in the factor that the timing was was was messed up with. You know, there was a lot more pressure than we've seen before obviously with tyring now, so I

think you factor all of that in. It just looked like they were out of sync and they were the whole game. They just couldn't ever get on track. Nobody was getting on track at the same time. When Dac was hitting his guys, they were dropping it when they were open. He was missing throws he normally doesn't miss. It just wasn't just all together. They just were not on the same page. And Dad made sure in those quotes. He made sure to mention that a couple of times,

which I don't blame him for that. He was like, he said, I wasn't hitting some throws. We weren't passing and catching like we normally do. It was and it was all of it. It was all of it, was all. It wasn't just him, It was the other guy. There's more than enough blame to go around. It's the same thing I said about not playing with an edge like

a football. Players don't just want to be like, yeah, we were off, They're gonna they're gonna go back and forth and kind of talk out the side of their mouth and then eventually they'll say it and same CD. He was just like it was weird, man, I don't know, I don't know what happened. But then he then he gets more into it and he says, timing is everything, don't get me wrong. And throughout the week we didn't that we didn't get I do feel like that played

a part in it slightly. Then he goes on to say, but at the end of the day, we're out here doing what we love. We still have timing. We just wear in a groove today, which and that's yes, obviously that's part of it. It's also the epitome of excuse making. I mean, we can't sit here and glow about the dack yard and how many reps these guys have taken

and how seriously they take it. And then I'm just like, whoa, they didn't get a week of practice, no wonder they sucks, Like no, yeah, But I do think there's something to that from the standpoint that. Of course, we talk about it all the time when teams are rolling and then they get a bye and then they come back and you're like, how much will just that week of not being in the normal, of course and what they're doing of course them, you know, to quote Mike Tomlin, we

do not care. Absolutely, we could. They shouldn't care about Well, I don't care either. Okay, it's it's an excuse. Be better, you're the you're the CD lamb. How did the league let him fall to seventeen Dak Prescott fourty million dollar player? Like you still like, yes, there are reasons why these things happen. I don't care. Play better. Yeah, that's what it comes down to, right, But I think the point here is, and what we're trying to figure out is that is that what it is? I mean, is there

is there a reason for it. It's not an excuse. It's just like, Okay, there's a lot of things that are happening here. Is this going to be a trend towards Atlanta the Raiders? But and that's and that's when you say big picture, that's having we're getting into the weeds on everything that went wrong. But that's why I'm still I'm not overly concerned, because no, I don't. I don't think these are trends. We've got how what was that the eighth game? We've got seven games of evidence

that suggests that that's not the case. So we have not right now, this is the operation, right now right, But that's what he's trying to do. Like, I think you're talking about the both sides of your mouth. You're not even you're not meaning to, but you're like, but what we're trying to figure out is this, and you're not even worried. You're the one that says you're not worried about this because you think something's happened this week or something happened that is not the normal Cowboys. And

that's what we're trying to figure out. Is it? Was it practice? Was it sink? Was it dac out three weeks? Was it you know what I mean? Was it a little bit of every course? No? And I mean that's what you do in these shows, you recap what happened. And I absolutely think that not having the practice time Dak misses three weeks, only gets to practice two days, doesn't have his preferred receivers, and Mari's limited CD hurts his ankle in practice, all that plays into it. Yeah.

I do think that's why I just, number one, I don't care, and number two, there's enough evidence from the rest of the season that I just I don't worry that it's a trend. Yeah, I think I think everyone's hoping that there's something, you know, there's something that's not normal, and it's almost you're right, it's kind of hoping. It's like whatever we've seen, we're hoping that this week was just different because of this or this or this. But

that's not gonna what's gonna be what normally happens. But I do sorry, go ahead, I was there's evidence in an all great football team, super Bowl winning teams from with the Cowboys on with other teams. There's always I'll never forget that ninety four forty nine Ers team that was really good that when Dion was on and all that they won him. They lost forty to eight to the Eagles like a week four and the Eagles were like five win team. I mean, sometimes it just happened.

Happened just you just put up a stinkers. The Packers got like completely destroyed at the beginning of this season against New Orleans and we were all thinking, well, maybe no one's gonna be great. Saints figure them out, alright. I could probably go get that Rubik's cube off Kevin's desk over there and figure that out before I figured out the Saints. That crazy, my wonderful producer, our wonderful producer, Caden Gates. We're gonna use this, Okay. Well, he produces

most of the stuff I do. That's why, as he produces everybody else's stuff too. He's whatever. He's a man of the people's The thirteen Seahawks and the nineteen Chiefs are pretty much the only Super Bowl winners in modern memory who didn't get their asses absolutely kicked at least once. Yes, Buccaneers lost thirty eight to three to the Saints last year. Patriots in eighteen lost twenty six to ten to the Detroit Lions. Seventeen Eagles lost twenty four end to the Seahawks.

Sixteen Pats got shut out by the Bills. It goes on and on and on, and that's I guess, And you're right, I guess. I was kind of talking out of the side of my mouth a little bit. But you get on this role, you win six straight games, everything's beautiful and this is going to happen all the time, and then you have a bad day and everybody's like, see their frauds. I told you, And I think it's really just a defense mechanism because you don't want to get hurt. Yeah, but guess what you signed up for

this ride. You're on it now. Man, we're going That's exactly My best friend hit me yesterday. He was like, man, see, this is what I was fearing. I'm like, well, let's just slow down a bit. It was like, this is one game, and I don't think it necessarily necessarily right now is an indication of what they're going to be the rest of the season or what they've been at this point. They had a bad day, it happens in the NFL, right it's just the Falcons that will not

be sninking up on anybody this game. And that's that's the thing. I mean, they won, they won a game. They're playing okay, and you know they've got a quarterback that's won an MVP in the past. And I don't know who they're receivers are, but I'm just saying they're, um.

Dan Quinn will make sure that things are ready to go meantime you get fired by somebody like got also, which I agree that everything you just said, but that's It's something I've been talking about with fans too, is the idea that this is a trap game, And I say, I don't believe in that at all in the NFL.

I don't think that's a thing. And somebody just tweeted at me or like you, and that's what I was getting into is somebody was like, well, you just defined a trap game because the Cowboys didn't come with the necessary energy. I don't think that's the same thing. A trap game in college is like LSU sees Alabama on the horizon and they're so much more talented than Mississippi State or whoever. Usually probably just came off a big game.

So you got this one sandwich game between it's like and the thing and what makes it a trap game is in college you have the talent to win a game like that. Where Oklahoma did it to Kansas a few weeks ago. If you follow college football, God, they played awful and Kansas had a lead. I think they were up, remember they were up in the second half, and OU was just like, oh yeah, we've been at

the top of the recruiting rankings for a decade. We're just gonna pull ourselves together and we're gonna win the double digits. We just are. When I say trap games don't exist in the NFL, my point is even among the unless it's a rare example of like the very best team in the very worst. The talent levels just not that far apart, and so if you don't bring it, you can lose to anybody. And that's I think Nick's exactly right. The Falcons aren't sneaking up on this team.

The Falcons can still win that game. But what I am confident of is that the Cowboys won't just play that ridiculously poorly. But but not a guarantee of a win. But I do think maybe they weren't looking at something else. But I think the trap in this case, I think it was this one. The Broncos game was a trap game from the standpoint of kind of what we had said before about they were winning these games. They won with Cooper Russia on the road again against the Vikings,

they pulled out this game somehow. Against the Patriots. They were winning the six eight weeks in a row now without without a loss, and you're and you just feel like kind of invincible, and surely with that coming back at home, kind of roll this team. You're opening kickoff fifty yards, watch this see this is what we thought? Yeah, they all we thought they were. I absolutely think that

was the case. And maybe I'm just quibbling. I just when you say it's a trap, like this could have happened against any team, Like it's not because it was the Broncos or anything. You just if you just if you don't come ready, this will. I mean the Jags beat the Bills yesterday. I mean that happens is unbelievable. That's wild. Yeah, that offense, the Bills offense, which I think is up there with the best offense. I didn't watch that game, but I bet you it was something

similar in the Bills. I think they lost going into their by and they're like, all right, we're gonna this is We're gonna get right here today. Let's just bomb this thing away and we'll all be cracking beers by

the end of the third quarter. And that's just not the attitude you can have ever in the n And what was so interesting is that after the game, McCarthy said, we talked a lot this week about not eating the cheese, and there they were like, it's just they have been talking about this, they have been talking about this, and really he'd been trying to coach them to not buy into the idea that you're as great as everybody says you are but natural, just natural who we are as people.

This kind of thing happens. It's why after a game like that, we get to see was this an aberration? Because if it is, look out, Atlanta Falcons, you're probably gonna take a nice spank in this weekend. If it's not though. If it's not though, and they still think, if they think too much, that was an aberration and they think we'll do we'll kill them, then here we go and now you start taking that slide and then it becomes a situation. Can you figure out how to

foop that switch? You just got my homes coming up? Yeah, right, all right, we appreciate you guys joining us. We'll be back on tomorrow. We'll get into a little big picture around the NFL, see what's happening around some other teams in the NFC and then the NFC East. Until then. For Nick Eton, Dave helm and Ambergarcia. I am Derek Eagleton. This has been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. Oh. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.