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Cowboys Break: Have Enough Tackles?

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The Cowboys are favored to beat the Jets, but it won't be that easy if both starting tackles are out. The crew talked about the status of Smith & Collins.

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The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, though David Hellman and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Thursy, October tenth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode number sixty one. Welcome to another edition of The Break.

We're live from s WBC Morges Studios at the Star. Got my crew with me. We're gonna talk from Cowboys football. We can get you guys ready for this Cowboys versus Jets game coming up on Sunday. That's at three thirty Central time. So I guess let's first jump been and get started talking about a couple of injuries. Three guys miss practice yesterday. Talk to me about Layton vandresh Dave.

You mentioned yesterday he wasn't at practice. We've learned more about why he wasn't at practice us a little bit about what's going on there. He's sick. He came in yesterday and was feeling under the weather, and they were like, let's hold you out. And Garrett said, this morning he feels better, but they're still holding them out. He came out to practice. He's not padded up, but he's out there. It looks like he's rehabbing with Britt Brown and then

training the athletic training staff. Does he also have an injury or is it just the illness that's well said an illness? No, no, and but I think you know, it's more like if you're not going to practice, at least get out there and get your wind up. Yeah. I you know, people brought this up like it looked at times like he was hobbled in a couple of these the Saints and Packers games. Specifically, he's not on the injury report with a physical ailment. Haven't heard anything

about it. Um, so it's not it's not related to that, you know, just Nixon knocks that happened during a football game. Yeah, I would expect he's gonna play in this game. It's just you know, illnesses. It's I said this on the fan earlier today, is like when you have a team of highly trained professionals helping you get over the flu or a cold or whatever. It seems like athletes kick it a lot quicker than the rest of us do. So, Yeah, talk to me about Lyle Collins and Tyron Smith. Well,

I think that Tyron Smith. They still saying that he is, uh it was promising to play, but he hasn't practiced yet. They're gonna try to get him out there Friday tomorrow to see if he can do something. Can I do my best Nick impression real quick? He's gonna play. He's gonna play. I don't think you don't think he's gonna play. I wouldn't say it like that. That does That's I'm just saying that's what you say. It's you typically say it about the other teams. Yes, you're like, he's gonna play,

he's Odell Beckham, he's Tyrant Smith. Though he's Tyron Smith, he's a mutant. But I don't do that as it's like I didn't do that. Boy Davante Adams like him. Yeah, you don't think he was gonna play? Yeah, but but I think that if I had to guess, I would say Tyre and plays Lyau doesn't. I agree with that, But it is the Jets, and I hope that doesn't factor into anything but okay, but see when you say it's the Jets, when you're arguing whether or not you

sit like you're running back. You know, like if Zeke had had knocked up ankle right now, you know, an ankle bruise, maybe you have that conversation because you have backups. But like, I don't want to send Dak out there against any NFL team without either of his tackles. That's a terrible idea. If the Cowboys were five and oh, then yeah, you can delimit things with well, it's the Jets like they're three and two right now. They need every game and and so for me, I don't I would.

I would look at it as he's able to play or is he not able to play? If he's not able to play us one thing. If he's able to play, then put him out there. I don't. I don't hold back just because of the opponent, in my opinion, not where they are right now, if it was. If it was, I think they do that. I mean, and I don't think it's as easy as saying black white, like he is able to play or he's not. Yeah, he's gonna play. He's probably gonna be limping around and if after the

Saints game, Danny, I'll let you answer this. At the Saints game, you saw that injury, you were like, he's gonna miss least one game, maybe two, And you're looking at it and you're like, well, Packers, you don't want to miss that one. But yeah, it's the Jets. You could probably miss that one getting ready for the Eagles. Yeah, but I don't think the Cowboys are in your position where they could use that as an excuse, Like Derek was saying like this that the Cowboys need to get

back to winning games. You don't want to start getting on this losing streak and lose to the Jets, who haven't won a game yet. You don't want to be that team and then you don't have momentum going forward, and then you start losing confidence. I agree. I don't think they're in a position where you can say, but there are the Jets. If he needs another week, that's fine, and they're not near their bye week. Can they win

without them? I see, But that's that's what it goes back, So you see it's I think it's I think it's different. Like if you told me Layton Vanderesh wasn't feeling great, But on Saturday, I'd be like, yeah, it's the Jets sid him. You got Shawn Lee, you got Joe Thomas. You can get through this game without Layton Vanderesha. Is that anything to do with how he played the last game a little bit? Yeah? I mean, like he's not playing that amazing. You know, you're missing a whole lot

Smith though. Tyron Smith is just a different story, not only because of how good he is at his position and what he does for like everything, but also again, I don't want my quarterback to get murder, and so if he's healthy enough to play, then I would play him. That's even in preseason games though, right, literally, you don't want to throw my quarterback out in the preseason in game,

in a game that legitimately didn't matter. Last year, preseason game, they sat Dak because Tyron couldn't go, and I mean Zach couldn't go either, and blah blah blah. You know, I think the hardest hit that Dak has taken since I remember any of these games since he's been here, I think was against the Saints a couple of weeks ago. He threw a pass. Remember that he threw that. He threw a pass kind to the right flat. Maybe in the first half he got smashed, like the one to

w Yeah on the on the right side. Life he hit Witten on the sideline. Was early in the game. Yeah, I don't remember. I think Cam Jordan, I think it was a combination. He got destroyed. I do remember what you're talking about. I mean, it happens. He takes hits, and but like we've said a couple of weeks ago, when when Cam was out there, I think he was rushing the ball and forcing it. I'm not saying that nobody can beat like the Jests can't win the game.

Not saying that, but I'm saying if he's not healthy and they're rushing him back, I don't know if you're rush him back for anyone, especially in a game like this, word they should be able to win. They should be able to win. I think we're kind of saying the same thing because I agree with you from the standpoint that I don't think you necessarily like rushing guys back. That's a that's a dicey thing. Rushing guys back if they can play and they can play reliably and they're

not going to cause increased damage to themselves. Then I'm all in. But I know in the NFL, and I know that look that you have David the NFL, like, yeah, they're probably guys to get back out there before their bodies are really ready to be back out there. Always um. But but I also don't think that you should make that decision based upon the opponent. Me personally, I think not.

Not when you're three and two team. If you're five an old team, yeah, I think you have some leeway to be able to say, you know, let's take a little chance here. We think we feel pretty good that we can win without him, so let's go ahead and take that chance. At three and two, you need every game, which means, in my opinion, you need all hands on deck, every player that is capable of playing, uh and and and not sitting anyone that that that's you know, it's

really don't have to. This is the difference between talk radio and like reality for what they say, because they don't even look at any of that stuff, or at least they don't say it publicly. Right, They're just gonna be like, well, if he's ready to play, he will play. If he's not ready to play. He won't play simple as that doesn't matter for playing the AFC Pro Bowl team.

Or we're playing the Jets and the gray happens in the room and then we're not Yeah, the door and they're like, can can we beat these guys behind closed doors? They absolutely say stuff that how good is he gonna be? Like? Can he run? Who's cam gonna have to face? Okay, all right, Jordan Jenkins, all right, cool? Yeah, if it was yeah, I can't even if it was a much more badass pass rusher. They're like tire and tyrant. Any chance you turn, maybe just get out there a little bit,

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Cowboys dot com to get your tickets today. Back to the break It is the second segment of Break Life Nest WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star and I just found out it's Fair day, so we need to finish this show really really quickly because for those of you who don't live in Texas, the Texas State Fair, when I tell you the food is just absolutely the best or what they do here at the Star is they started now doing a fair day here where we do those kinds of foods, like let's go to great it's

it's we work in the best place we do. It's awesome for free because I mean the fair is great, but it's not cheap. So the fact that we can get the same food up here for free. Thanks, I'll have his stomach cake by about be so great. But it's gonna be worth It's gonna be so worth it. All right, let's jump Backy and Dave. Are you ready to give us your New York Jet defense scouting report? Yes?

I can do that. Um, the New York Jets, it's honestly like they have I don't want to say an impressive amount of talent, but they have more talent than I think they do an offense just because they've invested resources there. Um, they're still playing. They're playing a three four under Greg Williams. M. Leonard Williams is still there. Arguably the top talent in the draft back in I want to say twenty fifteen. He's a three to four

in pass rusher, running stopper kind of guy. Um. Obviously the name the name to know if you know any name is Jim Jamal Adams. He's there, you know, kind of their their leader, their heartbeat, the top five pick. Actually Hebron's own Dallas fan, the Hebrew and Hammer right up the road here in the Carrollton area. Jamal Adams. They gave a bunch of money to Trumaine Johnson at cornerback. They gave a bunch of money to C. J. Mosley.

He's not going to play in this game. Good player though, Oh my gosh, he's great, Like that makes a world of beaver backers. That makes a world of difference. Came up from Baltimore. If he was playing in this game, I would be a decent bit more nervous about it. But the production hasn't. Really it's not let me let me change that. They're actually they're pretty good for what

they're dealing with. Like their thirteenth in total defense twenty first and pass yards per game not great, top ten against the run eighty eight yards per game twenty five, twenty fifth in points per game at twenty five points per game, which to me, like it kind of reminds me the twenty fifteen Cowboys. Honestly, because their defense is talented enough to keep up with some of these teams and they just wear down because their offense doesn't give him a ton of help. I will say the Patriots

kind of jumped out on him. Like the Patriots I think scored on their first two possessions, So like they're not this impenetrable unit, but they're good enough to hang with you. Like they're not just atrocious. I don't think they don't get sacks, though they do. That's the thing is, like they don't Going back to the conversation about the tackles, they don't really have a pass rusher, not one that just strikes fear into your heart. Jordan Jenkins is a

name that I think you should know. Third round pick out of Georgia. He's been there for a few years. He hasn't been amazing, but he will probably be going against the right tackle, which will probably be Cam Fleming or brand No. When I would say, well, I would say Cam Fleming or Lyle Collins. I don't think Lyle is going to play. But Jason Garrett said today if Tyrant plays, then Cam would probably move to right tackle. He's their swing tackles, so they expect him to be

able to do both. So I don't think it'll be Brandon Knight because I think Tyron will play. If Tyron doesn't play, then it would be either way. You're talking about probably a favorable or at least a compromised matchup for Jordan Jenkins. That's something to watch. Nathan Shepherd another good player. He's on a six game suspension, so he's not there, but they're leading Their leading guy right now is a guy by the name of Neville Hewitt with

two sacks. They don't get after the quarterback that well, So I feel like that's a break for what is a gimpy offensive line back has two sacks? He does, yeah, which I'm sure. What's the Cowboys leading three? Oh yeah, Quinnon. So I mean this early in the season, I get that, but you just don't see him, in my opinion, generate a ton of pressure. Another thing to watch. Brian actually wrote about this today. But Steve McClendon. They got him this year. He's new. He's their nose tackle. He's gonna

play head up on Travis Frederick. He's pretty good. I've never heard of him before I started watching him and kind of reading up on the Jets. But he's a he's a good player. Typical nose tackle like hard to move, trash can, full of dirt, but he gets a surprising amount of penetration since that's not necessarily what nose tackles do. I think that'll be a fun matchup for Travis Frederick,

see who gets the better of that. But they I think it helps that C. J. Mosley isn't gonna play, but like they could gunk this up for Zeke and at least you know it's not just going to be a breeze. I don't think I'll throw this. I was looking at there at the running game, and I saw what you just mentioned about them having the seventh best rush defense in the NFL. But if you go and look at the teams as they've played, haven't really to play teams that you would consider to be power running teams,

teams that are committed to the run. They have Buffalo and Week one, Devin Singletary rushed for seventy yards. He was at a leading rusher, but he did it only on four carry, so he had a big run. Broke one. Yeah, you had a Chubb. Against Cleveland, he had eighteen carres for sixty two yards or three point four average Rex Burkhart with New England, Chubb has been dynamic. No, no, no,

I get that. I'm not saying he wasn't. What I'm saying is they didn't really run a ton and I don't think you would consider them to be a team that's committed to the run, like you look at Dallas. Dallas as a team that's committed to the run. There are a few teams around the NFL that are committed to the run like that and have that kind of dynamic runner, and I don't know if they've played in them again, same thing for for Rex in New England,

same thing for Jordan Howard in Philadelphia. These are all guys that are kind of running back by committee. They run as necessary. They aren't really teams that are that you would consider to be running teams. All that being said, though the averages are pretty good. You look at Philadelphia, they average four point eight to carry New England four

point three. Obviously Philadelphia got them pretty good and got and like I, you know, to my amateur, I at least like I don't know how well disciplined they are, Like they seem like they get out of position a lot. Trumaine Johnson, we know him from the Rams. He's the guy that started that. He was one of the instigators of that brawl at training camp a few years ago. He feisty, he's aggressive, but like undisciplined. I feel like

you could use that against him. Marcus May. Their other safety was the guy if you remember the Jets game where O'Dell went like ninety three yards, everybody was making fun of him because he sort of like ran in a circle, like he got the lead blocker. He got so turned around by O'Dell that he basically ran in a circle. He looked like the pace car for Yeah, it was just kind of come on this way to the end zone and he like, I'm not going to try to tackle you. He's like, this is this is

the path coming with you. I don't I don't think they're well disciplined. I think play action screens and things of that natures doing that. No, well, I don't want to gush too much about Jamal Adams, but like you know where he went to school. I just he's so much fun to watch Hebren, You're right, and also Louisiana State El Presidente President Mall. He's so much fun to watch, Like I know, like you want the Cowboys to win. I get that, but like just keep an eye on

him because he's just the most fun Swiss arm knife. Like, yeah, he's a safety, but he's like the field general type of guy who's lining people up. His instincts are incredible. I actually the Jets put out a video with Adam Gase. I think it was the Cleveland game, but like Adams is down on the line, like pointing out the splits. He's like, this is what they're gonna do, and this is what I want y'all to do. And he just nice through the line and tackles Chubb like behind the line,

and Gas was like narrating it. He was like, he drives me crazy as an offensive play caller because when you see a safety doing that, like you failed because he diagnosed the whole thing before the ball was even snapped. And like he's just that smart. Like he drives me crazy in practice. That's what Gay said. He's like, he drives me crazy in practice because he does this three or four times a day. I would guess he's going to live in the box and try to make life

difficult on seek. So we know Jabal Adams is a guy that can change the game. Is there any other player on this defense that you would consider to be a dangerous player, Like if we come in here Monday morning, win or loss, we're saying, you know, that guy made it tough on the Dallas Cowboys to do what they wanted to do. I think it would be Adams because mostly is with hamstring. Yeah, well we know, we know Adam Adams. Is there anybody, I don't think there's one

that I would say. I think it is a major threat. Leonard Williams is probably better than he gets talked about. Four. But that's the position that he plays, you know, like it's a kind of a thankless position. Um. But again, like you're talking about it, like if they gunk up the run game, I think that could be why and and he could put some pressure again if you're you're talking about a compromised offensive line, and McLendon too for

that matter. I mean, if you know Frederick will see how he handles that, because like you don't see the center, I mean you don't see guys have one on one matchups that often like centers are typically available to help out with guys to either side of them. And I don't think that's gonna be the case this week. So I mean, that's that's the point in the game where you know, and we all know this, if if they don't run the ball, then you you're putting everything on

Dac and Dak at times can can do well. But if he's having depressed too much, like we saw last week, he could struggle. And when you look at the offensive line, Tyrant's banged up, he may not play. Lyle's banged up even more, he might not play as well. To Zack Martin has been dealing with back injury. Frederick. I think Frederick is back to one hundred percent, but we'll see against a match up like this, and Connor Williams I think is the weakest part of the line when they're

all healthy. He's had his moment. So when you look at the jet, you got McClendon, who you said is a you know, a good player in there. You got a first round pick, in top six pick I think in Leonard, and you got a top pick in Quinnin Williams, right, he's even mentioned Quin Williams. He's well, he's been hurt. He's limited, first round pick, top three pick, monster, yea monster. And then you know, and then you got something to watch. He's been on the injury report, not one hundred percent

sure if he's going to play. And then I don't know if that Anderson is it Henry Harry Anderson. Henry Anderson, the guy that had a shoulder. He's been a good player for them. He pull up the injury. He had eight sacks for them last year. So and he's a guy that that plays. They have a lot of games, an interior guy. Yeah, I think he's a tackle. I won't be surprised if running the ball is a challenge

for them in this game. It's like everything we just set about their front and then if there's a safety who can really limit what you do in the run game, Jamal Adams is one of them. Um. But this is huge for Gallup and Cooper because they can beat anybody off the line, and that's seen that I didn't have to just stretch it that way. And then I like that matchup. Like May Marcus May, the other safety. He was a second round pick. He hasn't really lived up to the hype of where he was drafted. And I

think Trummay Johnson's a pretty overrated player. I think there was like a There was a report that came out that, like, the Jets are concerned that he doesn't really care about football. This was like a month ago or something like that, which never something you want to hear about a guy that you gave a boatload of money to um. But yeah, it's I mean, I like that matchup for the receivers, which makes me feel better about the fact that it

might be a tough day for Zeke. It's a matter of not cheating yourself in the foot, which has been a problem for them, you know, because you're right and you say that, and that sounds very cliche, but it's not. You get a holding penalty. It's first and twenty Now. Now, running the ball a couple of times with Zeke is not favorable because even if he has four yards to carry, you're still looking at third and twelve, so you know,

you can't get behind the chains that way. I think that they're better equipped than they were last year to make that. I mean, had their first and twenty five and they got just throw a deep deep de Zeke here, you know, deep de Zeke right in front of Garrett kind of we thought that was gonna get him off the hook, but it didn't. We still talked about it. People started saying ball don't lie when that happened, and it made me laugh like Rashid Wallets. You know it's funny. Good.

Sorry but yeah, no, go ahead, sorry no, I was gonna say, apologizing. We'll take our final We'll take our final break here, we'll come back. Let's get some questions. Eight eight eight eight five two two ninety seven is the number again? Eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven. You can also hit me on Twitter. I've already gotten some questions rolling in there. Well that when we come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. Your new apartment's big. Such a great deal

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right sway night football. Yeah sure, after this game, we don't look past the Jets. Nick, take it you say in the Philadelphia games that game? Yeah, I don't think so. Well, No, I think it is to do this read single game tickets. I had to look ahead of that game the next time the Cowboys play at home, because you're gonna be watching this one. You're gonna be excited about what you see you're gonna Yeah, they're like, oh, they kick that

team in the greens, ass, let's do it again. Even though I don't think they're wearing green, I think the Jets wearing white. I believe Cowboys will be in blue again this way, and a lot of blue this year, eight games blue. I don't know if I've ever seen the cow Cowboys and Jets. I actually think it's white and blue like that. Maybe I think it's six games in blue and two games in color rush. Oh okay, I think yeah, sorry, did one color rush? Right? Yeah?

So Thanksgiving it will be the other US. So I think it's actually the Vikings. Really yeah, I think I don't look cool. Well, I don't know a lot of you know what's it's refreshing to me that you know, we'll see three different uniforms with regularity instead of fourteen games in the whites. I kind of wish you'd have more like I listen too, would just go the route of like college and give me a lot of different

variety of Oregon. Not that much variety. I'm gonna sound I'm gonna pound the drum for a royal blue Cowboys uniform until I get it. It would be look weird if it matched the other colors, right, unifor wouldn't that be crazy? Yet? That pretty pretty cool? All right, Let's get to us some calls, you guys, calls five, five, two, two nine seven. You can also end us on Twitter. You can hit me at Derek Eagleton. I will take your questions that way. We have a call first from

Pierre in Shreveport. Pierre, what up? Three one eight? Hey man? What's going on? You know? I'm okay, sir, I have a question about the coaching. Okay, okay, all we ever, everyone get us a coach. It's gonna go for blood. I mean the way that Garrett has told him our game, he's always happy about everything, and I'm just i just want to coach. It has a little bit more fire on him and that a hold of player accountable on television and not you know, second for him at the

press conference. Is this a recorded call? Like is this live? Or did you call last week? Because I mean I did not call. I mean, I'm just saying, of all the times to make that call, I wouldn't think it would be this week. Well, sir, I mean, I'm I'm just I'm a cowboy fan and I've been here to do and the bad. Do you watch the Packer game? Yes, sir, I watched the whole game. It was it was a

heart wrenching. Yeah. I mean, I hear what you're saying, and I know one game doesn't change everything and all that, but like, it's just funny that that that Garrett doesn't have the fire stuff would come out this week when he got a fifteen yard penalty for losing its basically losing a school and doing something. Now, I know that's not every game, but I'm just it just seems am not the only one that seems like I think people make a joke too. He's such a big clapper and

everyone likes We've covered that. Yeah, but that's doesn't mean he doesn't have passion and everything. As I've made this analogy before, like as somebody who doesn't outwardly emote very often. It drives me crazy that people think that that means you don't care. Like, it's just people react to things different ways. And you know, I mean, first of all, yeah, Garrett, it's it was really funny, like if a player had done that and cost the team fifteen yards, everyone would

have lost their mind and hated him forever. But Garrett emotes so rarely. Everyone was thrilled to see him get mad. Everyone a lot of here Freeport. Well, yeah, it's weird timing that this week of all weeks, like after he flipped out for the first time in his life, he

wants to see more. I don't I never understood that, which I have the privilege of seeing Jason Garrett every day, and I mean you can go watch All or Nothing and see what he's like behind the scenes, like that was such a great look, Like he isn't like that when he's actually coaching the team. He's just an even keel guy on game day. It's never bothered me. No, I mean, I respect the hell out of Chris Richard, but it doesn't seem like fans are into his passionate

routine right now because the defense is still struggling. And by the way, he called the whole defense up this last game and the game before and gave him a fiery speech, and guess what, they went back out there and they still give up more points. I mean, there is no right, no exact way that you have to coach. Like coaching is, you have to be true to who you are, because if you're not that's the other part. If you're not true to who you are, your players

are gonna look at you and role their eyes. Like, whoever Garrett is, he has to be true to that with his players. Whoever Rochard is, he has to be true to that to players. And guess what. There have been coaches in this league that have been very successful that are mile mannered. There have been some coaches that have sucked, that have been like fiery and always scowling and going off on the play it. There is no one way that's going to lead to successful a coach. Okay,

the accountability is the part that's important. I think he does all these players accountable. Tom Landry was not, like I was not even alive when he coached the Cowboys. But wasn't he like the most mild mannered He wore a suit on the sunny Dungee Tony Dungee because notorious for standing out and not really losing it, certainly not losing it. People are dismissed that part. Let's listen, miss but let's let now. We got a lot of people

that are listening. They're like, all right, well, here's the real problem, whether it's fiery or not, how about what is going on with this team and from what you can blame the coaching staff is is that for whatever the reason, they're not ready to play in the first quarter. They got by with it with the Dolphins, the Giants, the Redskins. They did not get by with it with the Saints, and sure it's hell didn't with the Green Bay.

So that is the problem right now. Is whether or not he needs to be throwing flags right before pregame, I don't know, but whatever it is, like, that's the issue. I don't know if it's if it's how mad you get on the sideline, but if we want to you know, put points and fingers to the coach and staff, is that these guys are not ready to play football for some reason and it's cost them the last two weeks.

I've actually, I've gone back and forth with that. I actually I asked Barry Church about it on cover for this week, where I was like, you know, every morning, every morning, and that you want to watch, thank you. It's I don't know exactly how to feel about that because it's like, well, they're not ready to play. That's on the coach and I agree with that to a degree. But then Dak throws a pass to a wide open to Marii Cooper and it bounces off his hands and

it's an interception. Like is that the coach's fault? Like because they zipped up and down the field throughout the first half, and like, what is Jason Garrett supposed to do about the fact that the player didn't catch the ball or the quarterback didn't see the safeties sitting on the throw. The coaches can only do so much about execution, which and I'm not trying to absolve Jason Garrett, but I really I am conflicted with that because I'm like, well,

the team wasn't ready to play. They fell into a seventeen nothing hole. That's on coaching. But then you're like, well, I can pick out about half a dozen reasons where the players just didn't execute something that would have worked otherwise. And I think it's a little bit of both. I mean, there's plenty of blame to go around. When you are down thirty one to three, there's no doubt, and that always becomes the argument. Even in situations where the players

should have executed. Then you say, well, why aren't the players executing. It still is the coach's responsibility. Well not even just that, but just it still is the coach's responsibility to get his team in a position where they can execute right, and yet they have to be accountable for executing and doing that. But at the end of the day, it still always goes back to the head coach. It begins and end with the head coach. So yeah,

I think those are all fair criticisms. I just get a little tired when people start going to the stuff that's off around that. That's not the stuff that's important. It's it's the team and how they're performing and whether the tea the coach is getting them ready to perform their best. I guess you know, that's a fair point because last week's probably not good to say that about the coaching staff or whatever. Aaron Rodgers goes out there

was it. I don't know if it was a three and out, but they punted quick, cowboys got the ball and it was three and now they got the ball, went down three or four plays. Cooper catches that ball. He's I don't know if he scores, but it's probably first in goal from the inside. That's what I'm saying. Is like, yeah, they actually yeah, and they it's not like they went three and out three times in a rotist which actually happened in the playoff game against the Packers.

Like they couldn't do anything at the start of that game. If you want to blame that on coaching, I'm listening. But like they literally they didn't play the right quarterback. Oh good god, I'm not kidding. But they moved the ball. They moved the ball at will at the start of this game, and to Danny's point, could not get out of their own way. I don't know how much of that lex on the coach, but he's still the coach, and if you want to criticize him, he's handsomely paid

to put up with that. Absolutely, thanks for the call, Pierre Reports. Not trying to kill you too much. I just I disagree with you, bro. All right, let's get a call. Actually, this a tweet from Brian stim He says, does Zeke look slower since his rookie year? And he makes references in fact, you don't see as many of those sixty yard bursts. You hadn't have those those big long runs. What do you guys think about him? And kind of where he is at this point his career.

I haven't seen that. It's true, we haven't seen that run um slower M. Maybe you know what he might be. It's okay to say that he might be. He's been hit a lot since his rookie year. Um, you find a lot of rookies, like a lot of running backs that way when you when you go and you look at them the rookie year and you come back and go, that's not the way they are anymore. I mean, it just kind of happens. Not an excuse, but uh, you don't have to be that guy that that makes all

those long runs. I mean, that's not exactly why they pay him, but it would be nice to break one every now and again. And how many I'm not I don't necessarily disagree. I know this, which I hope the Zeke is fat narrative is long dead. I see the guy in the locker room every day. He's not fat bad, He's in fantastic shape. So I'm just I'm legitimately trying to remember. I know, Week five, Cincinnati, twenty sixteen, he took it right up the gut, split the safety's sixty

yard touchdown. How many other genuine house calls did he make as a rookie. He wants to say Detroit or Tampa those games had a long one against Tampa. Yes, I think that's true. And he had the eighty nine yards screen against the Steelers. I don't ever think of that as just blazing speed. He was kind of bothered and with the next year with the screen pass for different because you're following blocks and yeah, but there still is an element of speed run since his rookie year.

I mean, I don't know off the top of my head neither why. I mean I would. He definitely did it a few times as a rookie. He hasn't done it as much since. Has he lost a step? Is that about an increased attention like tames come into games now saying we're not going to let him do that. I bet the longest run was the one he hurdled the guy in Philly, which would have been probably a thirty five yard touchdown. No, No, I would would have been. Yeah, yeah, maybe that's not as long as run. I will figure

it out. Yeah, I don't necessarily think it's wrong, but I all, I mean, he's still plenty father reason why he's he's he's leading the league in explosive runs, which coaches twenty plus, no twelve. That's the thing, is a coach's idea. You know, fans want to see forty and fifty yard runs and that's fun. But to a coach, it's twelve plus and it passes sixteen plus. And he's got a lot of those multiple sea this year or

since he's known just this season. I think he's got I haven't looked since the Packer game, but I think he's got fifteen or something like that. Like it's impressive. So I don't necessarily think it's wrong because he hasn't scored a touchdown from a long way away in a while. But I'm not worried about it either. Okay, I have a question for you, ays from Devin. Don't laugh at this. Think about it for a second before you answer. Are

we missing tackle at all? I mean, I don't if he was, if he was here, would he be active? I don't know. I'm gonna say no, I think so. I don't, Like, I don't think that like talent wasn't the whole story there, Like there was clearly a rift. He was clearly in the doghouse, and no It's cliche, but like I sometimes players just need a change of scenery and he like if he had a ten sacks season for Miami, I don't I feel like he wouldn't have done that here. You know, he were here, would

we be wanting to see him over Quinn? No, I don't think so. Absolutely not. Yeah, I mean that's what it and butt their guys. I mean, they wrote take their guys, so he would he would still probably still be inactive, just because for whatever reason. It's he had fallen out of favor with the coaching staff or at least the people that were making decisions as to how much he was going to play. And I think he probably was over them just as much as they were

over him. And I just I think that's part of it. Carry hiders played well. Doren's Armstrong had a sack last week. I mean, so you don't think the talented defensive end is the issue. They're just not getting sacks right now. There are other things that are caught right now. I don't know the last two weeks, I'm not super concerned about the pass rush. Like they got to Bridgewater five times.

Rogers is a different animal. They still got him twice, and there were another handful of plays where he had to do something miraculous to avoid a sack. Lawrence almost killed him on the shovel pass. Ye, So I think they're fine right now. Like set I mean, I know that wasn't super convincing, the seven seven sacks in the last two games, and Green Bay was bringing anybody and everybody that could help deal with Lawrence. They were using receivers,

they were using tight ends. That doesn't it doesn't worry me right now. I think that'll be okay, all right. Since his a key year seventeen, eighteen and nineteen, zekee zeke. How many rushers do you think he's had over thirty yards over thirty uh two years Memory had the suspension, and I'm gonna say three. I would guess over twenty over thirty thirty, I would guess eight five. Three nailed it. God, I'm good. Only three. That's he has not done it

a lot year. In seven twenty seventeen, member he missed six games. That was against the Redskins. Then he last year he had a forty seven at home against Philly. Don't remember that forty one against the Redskins. Also, he doesn't do it often, and like you know, it doesn't happen off and in the NFL either anyway. But like Nick Chopp just went eighty eight against Baltimore's I mean,

it would be fun to see that more often. But if he's leading the league in n explosive I mean twelve plus yard runs, it's not sexy, but it's it gets the job done. Like I'm not losing, and most coaches are probably rather have that than have a guy that gets you. Yeah, but every seven eight, But you could have both. But what's the what's the flip side? Right now, in five games, there's the only team in the league that's got two receivers averaging hundred yards a game,

and that's gallop in Cooper. So they're you know, yeah, he's not getting these big long runs because they're making sure of that. But on the on the other end, these receivers are I mean some of these passes to Cooper with him just being wide open with no safety help. I mean, that's just a great route runner who's got deceptive speed and once he gets by the corner, there's no one there. And the reason why there's no one there because Zeke's not getting the ball going sixty yards again.

You know, so there's good and bad to it. I mean, I get it, he might have lost the step a little bit, but I still think he's very, very productive. And I think that they're they're paid, they're taking advantage of it. Do you think that's problematic though, from the standpoint that they're able to do that in the passing game, but it's not really hurting teams to the point where they're beating them. And I mean those two last two

teams that are really good teams. Yeah, the Cowboys are saying, we will make you pay for having to do that, but it's not resulting in them getting enough to be able to get points. Do you think that that's a problem for Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's other issues there too. But and and there's a cycle of that, like Okay, Gallup and Cooper will continue to do that, and then teams will not let that happen, and then Zeke will

have a big run. But will they if it's not ending up in losses, then we'll teams say, hey, we'll we'll take the big plays by them, but we also think they'll make enough mistakes to where we still can beat them. We don't. We're still not gonna let Zeke get off, right, right, I mean, I think, I mean, I think it's going to take a long period of them killing teams with the past before they don't make Zeke their priority. I mean, the Saints game is so

weird because we just know how it is. I mean, Randall Cobb, Let's say that pass over the middle, you know, let's say there's no PI or whatever, and he gets ten more yards. They rush up there, they still spike it with one second, ten more yards. They're kicking a sixty yard field. I don't know if he makes it or not, but if they win, we're not talking about the same issues that we're still there from the defense, still there from the offense. You know, Jason Garrett is

a much different coach. If they make us, you know, it's always happens like that. So the Packer game was more troubling though, for sure. Ye all right, we appreciate you guys joining us. We are back tomorrow eleven forty five till then predict even Dave Hellman, Danny Serect, I'm Derek Eagleson. This has been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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