Cowboys Break: Has the Giants Offense Changed?

episode number thirty eight. Welcome to a very special edition of The Break, live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We got a good show lined up for you guys today. Got a lot to talk about. We're gonna get into these Giants days. Got a scouting report on the Giants offense, and we'll talk about some of their playmakers over there. A little bit of a different offense than what the Cowboys have been used to seeing when they face the Giants with the addition of

say Kwon Barkley. But I'm sure we'll get all into all of that. Before we do that, though, a few housekeeping things we need to catch up on. A players signed to the Cowboys yesterday, a guard by the name of Xavier Sue Filo, and they also released Kadeem Edwards. Talk to me about Sue Filo. Is he is he a guy that's that they're bringing in to just play guard? Can he play guard and center? Does he have even

more flex than that? What's his purpose here? Is he just kind of a backup body that they're just kind of just turning the bottom of the ross. I think he's definitely better than Kadem Edwards, obviously, that's why they did it. He started some games for Houston. I don't I don't know if this is a situation of do they want to get a better guard in here than what they had at left guard? I mean, I don't think that's the case. I don't think they're gonna pull

the plug on this with Connor Williams at all. But I'm just saying I think they just want to have a little bit more depth there at the guard position. It's the same thing and what they had in Parker Anger and Anger. I thank god I didn't have to figure out how to pronounce his name. At least we would have done that all season. Anger, Anger, whatever. He's a second round pick. Actually, I remember talking about him on the Draft show. He started a few years in Houston.

I think you would call his career disappointing to this point. But well, in the second round pick and he's not I mean only three or four years ago and he's not still with the team that drafted him. So not great. But Cowboys have Shona. That's what they like to do. Jonathan Cooper ring a bell um, bringing a talented guy. I think he gives you flex. He can play either guard spot. He's better than Kadeem Edwards. Theoretically he could push Connor Williams, but that's down the line. Like this

is and that's I said that on Twitter yesterday. This is not a reaction to Connor Williams having some struggles on Sunday. They worked him out last week. This this is I love this type of stuff, like the mechanics of how NFL teams used their roster. They needed a guy because anger was going on ir They worked him out, they liked him. But they can't ask a guy that they signed on Wednesday to play on Sunday if he hasn't been here. Kadeem was here for a few months.

You sign him, you get through the game with that, and then now you can go and get the guy that you wanted. Yeah, was Anger? Anger? Guy was Anger? The person I'm thinking about that had the position flex where he could play center, guard and even did somebody say maybe tackle in a pinch? Jerry said he could play all five spots. I think it was really more guard, center, well guard tack ar tack didn't have the center fleas. I think I think Jason Garrett told us that Sue

Philo could play center in a pinch. In a pinch, you don't probably want him to. And Adam Redmond is still here too, so um, but it's he's a guy that could guard. He gives you depth at two positions. Okay, got you a third? Got it? Um, Let's move on. Let's talk a little bit about injuries to watch this week. Cowboys. Still, their injury report is relatively small at this point, they haven't really had any major significant injuries. But tell us tell the fans which fan which players we need to

keep an eye on this week. With regards to the injury report, I would challenge that losing for Travis Frederick has been kind of major so far. Yeah, we'll see, but I'm just saying hopefully it's not a hopefully you don't know hopefully it's not forever. I mean, not for the season. I'm interesting, but it was more significant than I think we thought it was just by watching the game. I'll take one to watch it. Mean Xavier Woods, um didn't see him do a lot there. Um, I'm gonna

step on a limb. I think it's a sturdy limb. But I just I don't think Xavier Woods can go this week. That's really that's just my guess. It's Wednesday, I get it. But basing that on conversation with Jason Garrett, they don't expec him to play early in the weekend to get case and I'm sorry, thank you. Practice case

in point. Randy Gregory's the other guy to watch. Jason Garrett even said today he's like, while he's still in the protocol, he's got his knee, but we feel good that by the end of the week, you know, maybe he'll progress. You asked him about Xavier Woods, and it's kind of more like, uh, you know, he's still not

quite ready yet. We'll see about that. On top of that, eternal optimist Jerry Jones even said, I don't know if he'll be able to play this week, but he's getting closer to being able to play, So not a not a guarantee of anything. I said, I was stepping out on a limb, but I just I don't know that he's gonna be ready. It sounds like those are the two guys that are that are most important to watch this week, and it sounds like maybe one of them

is looking good. One. You have a little question about Randy's I mean, concussions are always it's different, you know. I mean, it sounds like if he didn't, if he wasn't in the protocol, I think he could maybe practice right now. But you gotta be careful with that stuff. So it's just they're just gonna have to watch him and see where he's at. Okay, all right, good, So

let's move on. Let's talk about this Giant's offense. And before we get to the scouting report, the one thing I want to point out, just kind of overall, when you look at this team is over the last six meetings, that's the last three years the Cowboys have played this team, you've seen basically offensively, at least, this is not a high powered offense, although they got some players that are

high powered, particularly O'Dell Beckham, junior. When you look at their passing game particularly, and then look at their running game, they haven't really put up a lot of yards. They can put up some points, they haven't in a lot of these games put up a ton of points. You guys expect that to be different now with the addition of se Quon Barkley. No, which why a question? Why do you think that is? Why do you think that?

Was not a statement, That was a question I was asking was do you think that I'm not making Why do you think that despite having arguably the best receiver in the league and in top five picket running back I get you, and an accomplished quarterback? Why do you think their offense isn't better? Maybe because the offensive line, Yeah, that's what I think. And it's still the same. Yeah, it's well, they got an older it's not the same,

but it's not better. At least the early returns aren't positive, and I think that that's going to be a factor for them. I think you know, Cowboys fans, y'all were here for more of it than I was. I really I got here when the offensive line got good. But you remember watching these Cowboys teams that had Tony Romo and Dez Bryant, and it was a struggle to do stuff a lot because you didn't have guys who could block everything. I think the jury is still out there.

I mean, Jacksville is probably the best defense in the NFL. And you know, their star receiver had eleven catches, their star running back is one of the well there's only four players in the NFL or that had one hundred yard game. He was one of them. And so they did their thing against a you know, pretty good, really

good defense. So I think I think they're excited to probably face the team defense is not as good and Dallas is definitely not as good as Jacksonville defensively, yeah, I think, And that's the part that you gotta be a little bit concerned about, is they've been able to h They've won three of the last six I think the Cowboys in and the Giants have split those and that's with them not having the kind of running game that that you would that that certainly that they have now.

I mean I look at I went back and looked at the running their rushing attack over the last uh six games, and they I think their best day was one hundred and thirty two yards. I was back in twenty fifteen at one hundred and thirty two yards in the game. There were one, two, three games. Half the games they didn't even get over one hundred yards. And this is totaling, is not one person is a total

rushing as a team. So they haven't traditionally in the last again, last three years, haven't run the ball particularly well against the Cowboys. And that's a position where you would say they've upgraded a bit, even if the offensive line is bad. A really good running back, Yeah, a really good running back makes a bad offensive line look pretty good, of course. Yeah. I mean no, I mean since Bradshaw and Brandon Jacob's left, they running the ball,

it's been an afterthought. It's been nothing dark or he had some plays in that twenty fifteen game he did. He did. That was the year when they had one hundred and thirty two. He had some plays, so they were shot. Uh, okay, since Jennings, I why don't you disagree with you, Dave? And just for the sake of the argument, you said it was such disdain in your boy for the sake of the argument. Now, I think I mean overall, if you look at overall as a team in the whole NFL, I wouldn't say, yes, there's

so much better than what they've been. But versus the Cowboys right now, which is the game that we're focused on at this point, I would say they are one. They have a running back that can run the ball, So do the Cowboys. Okay the old line. Yeah, it might not be the best or anything, but they can do it, can still make some damage. Now, they have a quarterback that can't get the ball out there a lot quicker than our quarterback, and they have a receiver that can catch the ball even a lot more than

what we have. So I'm saying when you start comparing the two teams right now offensively, I think that they can definitely put up a battle and score probably score more points than what we think the Cowboys can do at this point. So you're picking the Giants basically. The one thing to note though, is although we know Odell is a really really great talent and he's had some big time plays against the Cowboys, overall, he has been a Cowboy killer when it comes to just his overall

average in these six games. I mean, you're talking about a guy that has I think he's averaged seventy one yards per game in those six games. I mean, he's not really killed the Cowboys other than those big plays, like he had the slant route that he took quite away. There's that a touchdown even having touchdowns, and then obviously the play that set his career off against a Brandon Carr, which obviously was you know, that was just a spectacular catch. But he hadn't have had a lot of really great

games against the Cowboys. He hasn't been the killer of the Cowboys. Yeah, but what I guess where I'm getting at is they have at least three good elements working on kind of working on their favor you know, a good running back, a guy that can catch a ball, and then a guy that can throw the ball pretty quickly without having to be you know, running around and

getting pressure. He can make those kinds of decisions a lot faster than let's say, Dak So when you look at that versus what the Cowboys have at this point, the Cowboys only really have one I would say that can't work, which is Zee. We know he can't run the ball successfully, even if his little yard by little yard at the end of the game, it all adds up. So I think when when you start looking at those factors and comparing the two, I think, right now I'm

leaning more towards what the Giants offense can do. Alright, point Dave Gold and give us a scout report on these guys. What did you see as you started watching them? Well, we sort of touched on a lot of it, but it just ever, this whole conversation that y'all just finished just makes reaffirms my belief that for the Dallas defense, I think this whole game is going to come down to how well they tackle, Which is funny since they didn't tackle very well. Let's wrote that down. They got

a tackle will It's I mean, it sounds elementary. Obviously you have to you have to tackle football. But here's the thing. Okay, let's start with Sequon Barkley. He's a phenomenal talent. Everybody knows that. You saw his draft tape. I assume you saw his run against the Jaguars. If you didn't, you really should because it's real. It's just fun Like Beau, I mean, it was a broken play.

He goes up the middle, he squirts outside, breaks two tackles, breaks another tackle, beats another guy to the corner, tiptoes along the sideline for three yards, and then he's gone. I'm honestly, I think it's a little bit everything. It's more impressive than any touchdown Zeke has scored. I think probably I think do that. But the point being, he's got that game breaking type of talent. He's got insane balance, and we talked about it, you know, all through the

draft and leading up to this point. Like he's got these thick ass tree trunk thighs. That's what he can do with them. Like he is a hard guy to bring down, So I think they're that's scary, but there's a positive to that because I'm gonna read off, all right, Saquon Barkley ran a sixty eight yard touchdown. I'm gonna read off his other runs from the line of scrimmage on Sunday zero negative three ten five four negative four negative one one eight zero three two three one five

three sixty eight four and one. That's what he did. He had one run that you might qualify as a chunk play other than the touchdown, and you can't take that away. I hate people who do that. I get it, but look at the trend there that to me says your offensive line and your blocking is bad because he's getting swarmed within three yards of the line of scrimmage, damn near every time he touches the ball, and even on the play that he scored, that happened too. He

just he did some superhuman stuff. And that's what I mean when I say you've got to tackle well, because if you do, if you're wrapping up, and if five guys are flowing on the ball and you're gang tackling and getting hats on him, you can wrap him up. He ran seventeen times for thirty eight yards other than the touchdown, and again you can't take that away. I get it. But the trend is there that there should be plays to be made because the blocking is not

that good. Running backs can do crazy stuff, but if you just tackle well, then I'm not gonna say he doesn't scare me, but you can manage with that. Because go back and watch the tape. This Giant's offensive line is not very good. They added Nate solder Um, they drafted Will Hernandez. They have John Halapio, who's a journeyman who is kind of you know, he was with Halapio

h l a p Io, Um, how are you? Yeah, Well, he's a five year he's the typical like journeyman vet who finally caught on with the team exactly like he No, I mean, he's the HALOZ was a good good offensive line. He's he started seven times with the Giants after never starting in his career prior to that. Like whether it's their scheme or they don't have anybody better or whatever. Um,

they brought in Patrick a Mama from Jacksonville. And then the big one is Eric Flowers is still your starting right tackle and it sounds like he's going to be this week, even after he had a tripping penalty he had like he he had a holding in the end zone that was damn near a safety. Did you see the LA play? Yeah, just got. He's just not a good player, certainly not for a top fifteen draft pick laws on the left side exactly. And that's what I was gonna say, is we'll get to the Giants defense.

We'll get to the Giants defense tomorrow. But like they don't have the pass rushers that they've become known for right now, Olivier Vernon's hurt and they don't have another proven guy, so like he was getting his butt kicked by guys that are not as good as what the Cowboys can run out there on Sunday. So that's really encouraging.

And that goes back to my point that Barkley can he can make some things happen, but if you tackle well and get guys to him, I think you can limit what he's able to do, just because this blocking is not very good. The other thing too, I think it extends to the passing game because you have not just Odell Beckham, but Sterling Shepherd. And the thing is, I'll take it back to the blocking. Eli Manning is probably not going to have a ton of time, if I had to guess, and if he does, I don't

think he's that guy. You know. I think of Kirk Cousins. I know we like to criticize him, but Kirk Cousins just used to bomb away downfield on this team all the time. Any he would hit at least a few of them. Like, I don't think Eli is going to have that kind of time, and when he does, I don't trust him anyway. You watch the game back, Derek right, the cleanest pocket he had all day, he had Odell Beckham just screaming down the slot just three yards behind

everybody and just missed him. I mean, you can't have an easier touchdown. So he doesn't scare me in the sense of like an Aaron Rodgers who can just sit back there and pick you apart. Where he does scare me to Amber's point is that he's going to get the ball out quick, and he's got two receivers in O'Dell and Sterling Shepard, who are just as scary within ten yards of the line of scrimmage as they are downfield.

Because that's what I think Odell Beckham does maybe the best is he just presents himself as a target quickly and then he's gone. He's fast and he's sheds tackles. Um So you're talking turning six yards slants into sixty yard touchdowns like a couple of years ago in New York, or you know, running crossing routes. It seems like he runs sing route every other snap. So again that goes back to my point, gotta tackle well, you gotta keep it a sixteen yard game instead of a fifty eight

yard game. And that's going to be the challenge for this for the Stallas defense. I feel like on all fronts is limit They're gonna make their plays. You gotta limit it. When you can't, you can't let them break it. Well, I mean, it's just we've been talking for five years while Eli or ten years, Eli Manning gets the ball out quick and he's still it has been effective at times doing it. And it's like you just said, he's got playmaking you know, receivers that can get open quickly

and then do something with it. And so, I mean their offense is Eli friendly, it's Dak friendly, and this is not Dack friendly because they don't have He doesn't have players that. I mean, he can get the ball out quickly to who like who's open, you know, like right off the bat. So I know that there's the argument that this, you know, the receiver's got open some you know last week and all that, but they're not special.

You don't have you have special receivers over here. So you know, when Eli's career is kind of going down the way it is, you need to surround him with some special players. And I think that's one of the reasons why they're able to do it. I think he's got three special guys honestly. I mean, obviously Odell, I think Sterling Shepherd is a very underrated player. And then there's Evan Ingram too, who's basically a receiver. I mean, he hinders them in some ways because he's not a

good blocker. They have to I mean, they go, he added to an offensive line. It doesn't right, So I mean you and that again, that's part of the that's gonna be a problem for Barkley for the foreseeable future. I would guess they've got to bring in other tight ends and other offensive lineman. But yeah, I don't. I don't go ahead and say it like Cowboys got kind of lucky that Greg Olsen had to lose that game.

It certainly didn't leave not loose. It didn't seem like they had an answer for him during the time that he was there. And Evan Ingram is probably gonna be worse because he's twenty four and faster and leaner and easier to create separate And let's remember Xavier Woods doesn't play. Now, you got two box safeties that are now out there playing safety. Can either one of them be able to to cover him? There's no way that they can play another game where the safeties to play the whole game

and no backups play. I mean even on special teams. I mean I talked to Cavon Frasier Um just the other yesterday and he was like, I was dead on the plane. I mean, I couldn't move so tired. He played every snap on defense and special teams. Same with Jeff He and he was hot out there. That's hot. The other part to it, too, is really don't understand.

I just for the life of me, do not understand why you signed Ibraheim Campbell who's been in the league five years and he doesn't play a lot of defense, play some, but he's got to be a special teams got to be in the league five years. How can you not go in and play on special teams. I'll play Devil's advocate. Um, You're right, he's a veteran. It doesn't make a ton of sense. But he got here Sunday, he got here Monday. Really, he had twenty practices to

get up to speed. Maybe they just didn't trust them yet. I'd rather have reco active then. If you're going to have two safeties who aren't active, no, I mean they don't play, Yeah, just sitting out there. It doesn't make a ton of sense, but I would like to believe that in you know, this week, ye get them get a little more acclimated. My point though, about all the stuff that you're saying, the thing that's always been scary about Eli and the Giants is that they're always in

the game. You know, you're never gonna be that far ahead of them. They can score quickly. We've seen it. We've seen the Cowboys have two score leads on the Giants and think that it's over and it's not, and they win because they come back and score quick one. Get the ball again. That quick strike ability with those receivers and you know Swiss with a tight end, they can get back in the game quickly. So you gotta it's it's hard to kind of pull away from them,

or with this offense, that won't be pulling away from anybody. Yeah. The other thing to think about though there with that point you're making about the safeties, it could have been a situation where they got into that game and they realize, really, all we got to do is stop the run. Like they're not challenging us so much in the passing, I'm playing a lot Nickel m Yeah, Yeah, you're not in

a situation where you're really getting challenge a lot. And let's be honest, if you weren't going to be able to have safeties back, then we're gonna be able to take down Big Cam. Then it doesn't matter if they can cover or not. And so maybe they got into the game and they started seeing how the game was progressing and they were like, it's more important for us to have really two box safeties out there anyway, because they both can tackle, and we feel better about them

tackle than Mape tackling than maybe those other guys. True, my point is more on special teams. I'd like to get them some break on special teams and you know, play that way. I just I'm I'm encouraged by you know, well you mentioned Big Cam. They don't Eli Manning's not that and you know he's gonna opposite He's the guy that's gonna slide to get out of a sack or you know, throw the ball away going over. I mean, I you know, I counted it up. I think Will

Hernandez is probably gonna be a really good player. We all liked him coming out of the draft. Still a second game, Yeah, whilee Collins had a sack. We already talked about DeMarcus Lawrence. Nate Solder is the best of them, and still didn't look great. Albeit to Nick's point, it's maybe the best pass rush in the league, but this should be a good pass rush to it looked. They looked pretty good team. They looked pretty good because this team right nowadays, you would say, I mean, and they

gotta they gotta play well. And I thought they played pretty well last week, but they gotta play better because you gotta limit that stuff, and that's a great way to do it. We're gonna take our first break and really our only break. We kind of smooth went past that other one. But we'll go ahead and take this break. We'll come back and I won't get some questions. You guys, give us a call. The numbers eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven. Again it is eight

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our first call. We do have a call already lined up. I wanted to at least give you guys a chance to talk about this. Dave talked a lot about the ability of the Cowboys to tackle and that being very important in this game. Particularly. How concerned are you coming off the game that Sean Lee had when it comes to tackling, because he is kind of how this thing moves when it comes to tackling. That's his primary job, and it wasn't a great game for him in Carolina.

You think he bounced his back or you a little bit concerned about where he is at this point My thing with with Sean you know, with the season starting on Sunday night, I think he'll be able to go out there and you know, get all those preseason jitters out and he'll be ready to go. Yeah, he's definitely gonna bounce back, especially given the guy that he is. I mean, I'm sure there was no one more upset

than Shan Lee himself. So I'm sure he did everything he could throughout the week to make sure that he's gonna be playing better, better in this upcoming game. There's not I don't think there's another guy on this team that I believe more when he says something like that than Sean Lee. Because in the in the locker room afterwards, he was very upfront and against one of the reasons I respect him so much as a player is good game,

bad game. He was there to take the questions and always like he was like, look, I didn't play well, I didn't play well enough tonight. That'll get corrected. I'll go in this week, I'll get myself ready, I'll be better next week. And I believed him. And that's the thing about Sean is history says that yeah, he might have a bad game here or there, but he does correct the ship, and so I personally believe this is he's gonna be ready to go. It's something I get

into with fans all the time. It's like, you know, fans expect these players to just be agonized about it from the moment the game is over until the time the next game kicks off, and like you're not allowed to have any fun if you didn't play any well, like don't go to the Beyonce show, Like don't don't smile on Instagram, like you know, you know what I'm talking about, Like and that's ridiculous, like peep players or people too. Just because you had a bad game doesn't

mean you can't live your life. But Sean Lee is that player like Shaun Lee, won't be happy about anything. It's not a pleasant week in the Lee house. It's no I've actually I interviewed his wife a couple of years ago for a story I did when he was nominated for Walter Peyton Man of the Year, and she was like, weeks after losses or like bad games on his part, it's just it's just it's a dicey it's a dicey time in the household. Like he I mean,

he takes this stuff seriously. If you watched All or Nothing, I mean he's watching tape of bad plays like the day that of the exit interviews, Like he's that guy everybody else's going home. He is all he is all consumed and that's yeah. Like I'm not worried about him. He'll he'll bounce back. I need a way larger sample size of him playing poorly before I'm worried about it.

I'll tell you this about the defense though, my biggest concern, and if I had to pick one of the two, I think that our defense would be the Giants offense. I feel really positive about the defense that the Cowboys are building right now, But where my concern stars is how long is that defense gonna be playing out there for?

So that's the biggest thing. You keep the defense out there too long, That is just a ingredient for fatalu Although can I point this out, it'll be very different than last week from the standpoint that there won't be the humidity, there won't be the heat factor. They're playing indoors. That does have some bearing on it. I think I think last week you started seeing those defensive guys. I mean I thought it was about second quarter. But will

it be indoors? It's gonna be indoors? Are you sure because I will put on it that I wouldn't because NBC starts calling they want that aerial shot and have it open. It's happened too many times before if they do. If they do, I will be shocked, and maybe I will be shocked. I'm just saying it's based upon the humidity and galleries right this time of the year. I don't think it's even I don't think it would be

a chance that I would open that roof. I would my decision feel comfortable betting that the roof will be closed. The roof like they never open the roof anymore. Okay, But I'm just saying we have seen it so many times these Sunday night. ESPN wants it and Sunday I mean they paid billions of dollars to get what they want.

They open the roof. We've we've had this game a couple of times now early in the season where it's been really the network asking for is that the internally Jerry wants to see you, it's the network asking for it, and they remember the billion dollars that that we did in a deal like we get. We have played the Giants at AT and T in September almost every year that I've been here, I think the only time twenty fourteen, I think that we played them here in October. We

have the last three years. The roof has been closed every single time as far as I remember. Yeah, I just I don't see a scenario where they would do that to their own team, let alone, you know, just kind of. I just don't think it's. The weather's permitting at this time of the forecast accounts for a seventy three degrees I kick off, so it's a lot lower than I thought it is. Not That's not cool, No, not especially not in a stadium like that where it gets in and then it's kind of traps the heat

from all those bodies. I mean, that ain't cool. Seventy three yards certainly not hot. Like seventy three degrees is not cool for athletic weather, it's not I mean, for athletic performance, it's not. Okay, I agree with Derek, Okay, I mean the only thing about it is if it's gonna rain, it might rain, that would be one thing. But if it's seventy three degrees and opening. They're not opening for seventy three. Okay, Okay, they're gonna yeah, but

I think it is for your point. I mean, I think when I started seeing, you know, what's more important than the temperature in the stadium is if the Cowboys are getting first downs. That's what's way more important. That helps. They played a the defense played, all things considered, a pretty solid game in eighty five degrees in the humidity, and I'm sure it took a toll, but they still got the job done. I care a lot less about the temperature and a lot more about the Cowboys offense

not being terrible. But if they were able to do that in eighty five degree humid weather, what would they do in climate control seventy one? I mean, I think that's if they're losing much better, If they're losing time with possession, it's not gonna be good no matter what. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if that offense can really make them pay like that. I really don't The Giants, Yeah, I mean, we just talked about their offensive line. We

just talked about the quarterback. We looked at the history of what they've done, offensive talked about like you gotta be on your p's and ques to keep that guy. Well, if you're out there play series after series after series and not getting resting time, that's how eight yard curl routes turn into fifty yard touchdowns. I got you. But last week again eighty five degrees. Last week they give up sixteen points. Potato potito, This is not potato patalo.

All right, let's get to a phone call. Um, we do have a phone call here from stand in DC. Stand up, Hey, what's going on? Crewey? Hey? I think nixt right, Dave, I'm sorry. I think I go to the Cowboys game every year, Cowboy Giants game every year, and I could speak of at least two times. I know the roof has actually been open. What years? With that? I definitely know it was the year Romo one at the end of the game with Jason Winton. I can't

remember the other one. But it's been mentioned that we didn't have a we didn't have good luck with the roof open. But I've actually come away with two wins with the roof open. Hey, there you go, I remember that. I never remember we got hurt right, yeah, fifteen Yeah, before he got hurt a matter of fact, Des got hurt that season. That get a game, Yeah, that game. My key this week is I think we got to

get Dak's confidence rolling early. I think we got to do some of that RPO stuff early, like get him moving where he can get his confidence and also slowed down the Giants when they're not going to come as hard, because I noticed that's what we did with Cam last week. We came at Cam hard and in the second half when we kind of rushed in our lanes, we controlled them in that second half. But I think we got to get Dak on the move with some RPO, roll them out and gets a lot of these crossing routes

like Gallapad last week and Beasley. I think that that's how bread and butter to get them going early. Okay, all right, yeah, I mean I don't know that the Cowboys, you guys can answer this. The Cowboys. Have they really done a lot of RPO stuff with Dak. I haven't really seen a lot of that. I mean they've done some when he's been successful, they did a lot more movement and getting him out of the pocket. If that's what the call is saying, and I agree with that.

I think I've done in some ways to do that. It's it's probably a good thing. First of all. At this point, RPO has just like I mean, they were calling play action passes RPOs the other day. It's like, I mean, it's it's taken on a life of its own. It definitely has a place in the game, and I think most teams probably do it. I mean, I'm thinking right now, like one of Dak's best plays is a read option RPO with a slant to Beasley, and I think Beasley caught three touchdowns off that play last year.

They coming to my mind most notably is the Chiefs game. I think it was their first score and I was talking more about last week, Like I didn't I didn't seem to see much of that last No, I didn't either, But they do have it in their offices. Yeah, yeah, right. I think that they need to call more runs where Dak is running the ball, Like I mean that that is playing to his strength and that's what we saw at a CAM That's what makes him so effective. And and get get out of this mindset that this guy's

a pocket passer. I mean he's not. I mean he can he can make plays out of there every now and again, but I mean, get him on the move, get him running. That makes Zeke so much better if you do that. When you have that zone re kind of look, it forces the defense to split. It forces the defense to, hey, I gotta play my responsibilities, which means I can't help over there. I gotta make sure I'm handling this responsibility over here, and the same thing

on the other side. And so it does give you a few more opportunities that if Zeke can break a tackle, now he's off to the races. And that's what using Zach, I mean, start using a Dak Moore gives you that that kind of look. The thing that concerns me, and we talked about it when we were reviewing the game, is just they gotta they gotta find a way to mix it up enough to where teams don't necessarily see it coming. Because I asked Jason Garrett about it too.

Is you know those those waggles that they like to run. They love those plays where they get Dak moving out of the pocket and he's just got an easy throw right in front of them. The Panthers were all over that stuff on Sunday, like they had a guy in his face. The whole point of the play is that you have the option for the easy throw or you can run the ball, and that running option was taken

away immediately. And I think the answer to that is probably to make defenses stay honest by giving the ball to Zeke a little bit and by having again, however you want to scheme it up. I think Dak needs to be more of a threat as a runner to open that stuff. Here's where I don't understand is and again it's only been one game, but in the past we've seen how good Dak has been running the ball and just figuring out when it is the good time to run, and also making throwing a pass in the run.

So how do you go from having that and then it kind of disappeared? I mean I would be expecting it. You keep building up from that, and if anything, his confidence is just going to get better because he has already been doing that. So that's something that I'm still We'll see what happens in this upcoming game, But as far as that first game, I just I'm still trying to get my head around how that just basically just disappeared. Let's go to the phone line. To get another call.

This one's from Lynn in Oklahoma. Lynn, what up? How are you guys? That I'm doing great? I was just uh noticing on the game last week. Every time, well if the Snacks does what uh what's I lost a guy's name? The defensive tackle would always get into Williams

and push him straight back. Looney was always going mainly to the right, and he needs to kind of help out just the least the initial uh contact, to help Williams out a little bit on on that uh, because he's getting shoved right back into into Zack or Dack and uh. Uh. Also the second thing, I never saw him so one wheel route to to uh zeke or yeah, and everything was just in the flat. He never didn't get down field at all. And that was just two

observations that I had on the game. Uh, talk about that a little bit, all right, Thanks for the call. Coan short is who he's talking about, knocking Connor Williams back and Joe Looney helping him a little bit more. Yeah, that's that which you know he meant. He said Snacks at the start of the call like another tough challenge this week, although a different style of tackle and I am a team now right. I'm interested to see we

can get into that tomorrow. But it's a new scheme, so he's he's playing a bit of a different role, but going to be doing a lot of the same stuff. I mean, I don't know how many more times I can complain about not throwing the ball to Zeke enough and in enough creative ways. But it's definitely it's not something we've seen that's you're absolutely right to the caller's point, like, and what's frustrating is that you go back to training camp and you see Zeke doing some of that stuff.

I remember, you know they did they did a team that we're doing that all the time, and they exactly they did a team period where they threw the ball to Zeke three times in a row in three different manners, and all of it was stuff down the field, not yards downfield, but six seven, eight yards over the middle of the field, running across the formation. And you get to the game and it's all stopping the flat and look for the ball or a swing pass or just I don't know, just to be better. I don't know.

Like I said, I don't know how many more ways I can say it. Yeah, and it's simple better. It's I mean, honestly, at the end of the day, he's just he's got to be better. I think he's got to be better than he was last week, which I think he will be. He's just working himself into form. But they also got to find some ways, some more creative ways to get him involved in the offense. Um, all right, so let's go ahead and let's go and call it a show. We'll be back tomorrow at eleven.

I'm sorry, I'm not expecting that now. We'll be back at eleven forty five tomorrow. We'll get into the Giants defense versus the Cowboys offense. There's a lot to talk about there at defense is pretty pretty good, Jeff something, Yeah, I do, like right before, I guess is hanging with the Boys coming up next? Yes, it's coming up next. I just I just want to say, check out that show today because it'll be a different look than you've seen before and literally a lot more going on than

just football there. I tell you what's happening there with Shannon, Nate, Kurt and just the unity there is. It was I didn't want to get emotional about it, but it's pretty awesome. What's what's happening there again, we talked about football and RPOs and wheel routes and all that stuff, and that's what we do and that's it very very important, but sometimes it goes bigger than that. And so check out that their show. They've got a good thing going on

over there here. All right, we appreciate you guys joining us. We'll be back tomorrow till then for Nick even Dave Helmett and AMaGA. See. I'm Derek Eagles and this has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.