Cowboys Break: Going All In?

We are live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the start. Following a bye week, Cowboys are getting ready for their next division opponent, got the Giants coming up this Sunday in New York. I'm sorry, this Monday in New York. And before we get into all of that, we'll talk about that tomorrow row in on Thursday. But today we have to talk about signing Cowboys over the weekend.

Actually it was last Thursday, I think Thursday, even at about the time we were all settling into a nice by weekend that the Cowboys made the decision to trade for one Michael Bennett. They trade a seventh round pick that could become conditionally a sixth round pick. I want to get all of your opinions on what you thought when you first saw that the Cowboys made this move. Let's start with you, Nick. Well, you don't want to know what I first thought, but no, I really do

want to know what you first thought. Well, I was disappointed that, you know, we didn't kind of get more of a heads up on it. We felt like we had an opportunity to do that. But my first thought about the actual move that pertains to everyone else, just another guy that you know. Well, Actually, my first thoughts why do the Patriots don't want them? I mean, why does Bill Belichick, the best coach of all time not

want them? So that's my first thought. Really, but I feel like he'll help, you know, he'll help if they can rotate him the right way. He's probably does what Tyrone Crawford was doing his inside outside Flix guy, Dave, what do you sorry? I was waiting for the illustrious host. You needed me to say your name? Sorry? My first thought was, oh, bleep, bleep, bleep, putting the beer down. You put the beer down. I guess those plans are on hold. Bleep. Oh, Nick's calling me. I guess I

gotta write this story. Bleep bleep. I thought we were on a bye week. Welcome to the world of Dallas Cowboys dot Com pretty much. Yeah. Um, so we got all that taken care of. And then once I got over the initial shock of and I mean, you know, we're not we play some things close to the chest sometimes, like you know, we'll hear whispers that you know this is in the works, don't say anything or you're fired.

You know this might be coming down later today. This was not one of those though, Like I mean, we were completely blindsided by this, right, I hadn't heard anything about it from anybody. I left work on Thursday thinking that nothing interesting was going down down. Uh So kudos to them for playing that one really close. Um. Anyway, once I got over the shock of it, I think it's a great deal. I don't really worry about that

with you know, why doesn't Belichick want him? Because the Patriots scheme is so unlike what Bennett has experienced most of his success success doing. You know, everybody's already tied the parallel with Chris Rashard. Jason Garrett talked about how that was a big, a big selling point for why they were comfortable doing it. He can play in he can play tackle and nickel and rush situations. I think

it's a great, great trade. This is the type of trade I love to see because you're not mortgaging your future and you're getting a guy that can really help you right now. Um and you know he's he's a he's a an outspoken guy. He's got a reputation and a lot of people don't like him because of that. If it doesn't work out, it was a seventh round pick, Like I whatever, you can part ways with him for no real loss at all. I think it's a lot of upside with very little downside. I love it. Something

just doesn't feel right to me in a way. I'm like, there must be something else. I don't know, because it seems too good of a trade for it to happen. I just don't know. I can't pinpoint what it is, but it just seems one of those situations where it's too good to be true in a way. So I'm like, there has to be something that's up or wrong here, or maybe this guy is and all that that will plug The Cowboys can plug him in into the field in the line and him being effective for the Cowboys.

I don't know. Well, I think I think the most important thing is that he was out of well really, I don't want to say out of position, but the Patriots. What the Patriots do is not necessarily what he does. They are very they are not mostly in a four three front. They're not mostly in a four down line front. Right, and he's a defensive tackle slash defensive end, which means that it makes it tough for him to get onto

the field. Now, depending on how good bad he is, I probably I would venture to say he's not like a world beater. I he's thirty three years old, so there is a likelihood that he could be less of a player than he was a year before that. What I will say is twenty eighteen, this was a guy who had nine sacks last year, and that same year, DeMarcus Lawrence led the team the Cowboys with ten and a half sacks. Next closest guy had six in Gregory.

He's not here. So if you look at it from that standpoint, just what he was a year ago, this is a guy that was would have been the second highest I would have had the second highest sack total on this team. That to me, says, Okay, I'll take a chance on the fact that he was just not a guy that could fit into what the Patriots are trying to do. And worst case scenario, he's not that good. You didn't lose anything. You gave up a seventh round pick and maybe a six round How many times that

he bounced around this year? Well he went, he was with the Eagles. Eagles traded him to New England in the spring. Before that, he was, you know, he was one of the mainstays on that Seattle defense. I would be more concerned about why the Eagles let him go than why the Patriots let him go, because the Eagles do what the Cowboys do, and they decided, hey, you know, we're ready to move on from him. So that to me would be more of a concern than the Patriots.

But again, like I said, a guy that had nine and a a half sacks a year ago, take that chance. Like they didn't give up much to take that chance. It's not like a salary. He's that high, So go forward. Well, he's got some you know, he's got some baggage, I guess, and he's got some that might be an issue with the Cowboys. Now, I don't know if this has all been worked out. I was we were told that trade

came together quick. So you wonder if questions about his stance on the anthem, his stance on Jason Witten, his stand why he was suspended a game for the with an altercation with the coach for the Patriots. So you know, there are some issues here. And he's very, like Dave said, very outspoken. He's an author of a book. You know that's very outspoken. And you know it could it could be an issue if you know the leaders in the

locker room and and you know don't handle it. But um, it's not like he hasn't been an effective player where he's been And do see exactly fit what the Cowboys are going to be missing with Tyrone Crawford. If he plays like he's played, it's an upgrade. And and he does what Crawford does, but he's better at it in my opinion, Yeah, he's better at it. That's in a

perfect world. Yeah, I call that an upgrade. And I don't think I'm sorry, I don't think Michael Bennett has had the as good a pass rushers around him as he'll have here with Quinn and d law Um and even Hyder. You know, I mean it's I mean nothing against what what the Seahawks did back to him, because obviously they want to Super Bowl with great defense. They had about four really good rushers, right, Yeah, they didn't have they didn't have a stud. They just had five

really good. They had Avril, they had Bennett, they had Um, another dude whose name is escaping me. Clark didn't get there till letter. But I mean they had at their peak, they had about five that just kept coming, right, which is kind of what you're recreating here, I think, which you can't say that Bennett only cares about winning because he forced his way off the best team in the league. But I think he cares about winning and competing and having a role. He I've never met the guy, but

he seems like Alpha in the truest terms, you know. Yeah, Yeah, craziest player we've ever had. I think you think A b was the craziest player we've ever had. Don't call Anthony Brown like that, meant Antonio brian And was crazy. Well, what does the guy just stands on the sideline and all of a sudden just does a backflip just because I mean, he's just standing there. I'm kind of, you know,

up there, though Marty b is up there. I never dealt with Marty B. But I'm kind of surprised to hear that when you you know, I've heard some stories about Ratliffe. I've heard some stories about Mary and Barber. What's crazier him? Crazy's not the right word. No, it's not the right word. That's not the right interesting guys, interesting, yes, and he accentric yeah, And you know when he was gone,

he said what he said about Jason Witten. And you know, I think I think Bennett was in that interview with Michael Bennett. It was an ESPN the magazine profile. There was this whole thing about Jason Wayne Well. I mean Mark Martellis said that he respected Jason Witten as a player, but just didn't like him. And and I bet you it was mutual, just because you know that they have a different approach to the game. And I think you could say martellis Bennett. Um. I don't know if he

loved football. I think he loved what football gave him, because he always had interest in doing other things. I don't know if he was as interested about football, was just one thing. Yeah, that's the point. He may have loved it, but it was just one thing. I think that was also the point about about martellis that that made people look at him a little different, is because he did have a lot of different interests and they weren't the typical interests that you see from a six

foot five black guy. Like the things that he did. He was very interested in a lot of cerebral things, and I think people are like that it seems weird, like he's writing kids books and he loves technology, like there are all these things that that said, maybe this is a nerd, but he's in a football player's body. You remember when, so it just it seemed weird to remember when he got I forgot exactly what it was,

but he got us. He got fined by the Cowboys, and he did an apology, you know, and he wrapped his own apology. Yeah yeah, And I mean he's just he was just wrapped it out. It was kind of pretty good. I actually had a lot of respect from why to be from the standpoint of us, I had more respect for him after he finished playing, because I did see the fullness of the person that he was and all the different things he was interesting and I think he's good at a lot of those things as well.

I remember when I went to the Pro Bowl. I think it was fourteen Cowboys were coaching it and I was, you know, there to cover the Cowboys, and he had made the Pro Bowl with the Giants, I believe, maybe with the Bears. I can't remember. Maybe I think it was the Bears, and he was talking to the Giants people like, hey, how are you doing. Then he sees me and he was like, damn, I've been on a lot of teams man, you know, because he's like, I

know you too. So he had a good career. And I know we're getting away from things a little bit because there are different people. Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't really I don't care that much about Martellis Bennett's role in those whole thing. It's they're different guys. And but again, I mean that is that is something to watch. Michael Bennett is Again he's an outspoken guy. You can

talk about the anthem stuff. I think not maybe you know, I don't know if he's the author of any children's books, but I think he's another guy that is, you know, he's a little bit more three d than you know, he cares about stuff because the author of a little more controversial book and that I mean, but again exact title, but it's it's what makes white people uncomfortable or something. I didn't know that I heard you mentioned it before.

The author of the book. I mean, he has been at the forefront of this national anthem and and you know, okay, his brutality debate and all that type of stuff. Like about a month ago, we were talking about the dynamic with this group of guys in the locker room, how everything's so well, all these guys get along. The only one was talk on now his gun and then this guy coming in with this baggage with him? Does that all right? Hold on, I'm gonna pause you right there.

We're gonna take our break. When we come back, I want to talk about that. I want to talk about how he affects this locker room and can this locker room withstand a guy that's pretty outspoken, and we'll see how that how that plays out, we' talk about them, we'll come back. This is DLAs Cowboys dot Com Radio. Well a player can look good on paper, it's one he's out on the field that you really find out

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a part of that. Before the break, we started talking a little bit about how Michael Bennett will fit into this locker room, and and Amber you laid out the question. I'll throw it out to the group. How do you think he works in this locker room that seems to be pretty cohesive on the same page, a lot of seemingly similar type I would say similar type or at least meshing type personalities, not really liar type guys that kind of are very different in my opinion, What do

you guys think? I think it's it's the same conversation we've had on this show a dozen times at this point, is like at the end of the day, line one is always are you good at football? And if Michael Bennett can accomplish what they brought him in here to accomplish, which has helped them get sacked, I think the rest of it will take care of itself. To be honest, and like, he's not the only guy in that locker

room without spoken opinions or different interests besides football. He probably voices them a little bit more often than what we're used to seeing here with the Cowboys. I'm interested to see how that manifests itself. But again, if he if he is contributing and is part of a winning effort, I think the rest of it's going to take care

of himselves. I mean, we haven't talked about it a whole lot, but Robert Quinn had his own role in the national anthem protests as well, and that has hardly been mentioned since he got here, and it hasn't really shown itself on the field to this point either. So again, if if he's good at football and it's taking care of that aspect of it, I think the rest of

it will sort itself out. And that's kind of what I said at the top of the show too, is if it is this gigantic problem and he's and he just butts heads, then you didn't invest that much in this anyway, and it's not something that's hard to get away from, you know, if you really think about it. Though I said this before, and maybe I'll change, I'm going to change what I just said a few minutes ago, there really are a lot of different kinds of personalities

on this team. Because you think about a guy like Amari Cooper, who is very seemingly sometimes kind of to himself a very cerebral guy, loves to read. He's that kind of guy, right, And then you got a guy like Tank that's just like he'll say whatever comes to his mind and whatever way it comes to his mind, and he'll do it on camera. He doesn't mind getting out there and saying it the way he wants to say it. And then you got a guy like Robert Quinn who gets off the plane in his bathrobe and

you know, is heading to this car. Like there are a lot of different types of personalities, very very different types of personalities on this team. And maybe again, like Dave says, maybe it's all about if you can get them all to buy into this common theme of we want to win, then it really doesn't matter, right. I agree with that. And as he said, it's all about,

you know, how well you play football. You put up with a lot of stuff if guys are you know, playing football and not being a distraction as well, Because when we saw guys like Terrell Owens, I mean, you know, he was good at football, but he was it was too much of a distraction, not that good, I guess, and I like I said, I mean he was unhappy in the on the best roster in the league, or one of them at least. But again, I think the old best defense the opportunity to actually play a role

in winning games is I assume what he's after. And unfortunately, you know, because of this weird week, it's Tuesday afternoon and we haven't had a chance to talk to him yet. Hopefully that happens later today. But I don't know. I tend to think and maybe these will be famous last words,

but I think it's much ado about nothing. I don't remember anything about him being this colossal headache while he was in Philadelphia, not during the season last year at least then he which Seattle was a whole different animal, that whole team. It's amazing that they juggled the amount of personalities that they had in Seattle for as long as they did, anyway, and it just tore itself apart at some point. It was almost like you could just

see it. At some point, it just got to the point where it just seemed like everything was just tearing apart because maybe because all those personalities, at some point it just wasn't going to work anymore. But at the end of the day, I mean, he wants to play a role in winning football games for a good team, and if he's got that opportunity, then I think the rest of it will take care of itself. Has he ever had a shoulder injury? Are you referencing his non

existent shoulder pads? My god, I mean, like it's just like punters have bigger shoulder pads than that. Yeah. I wonder if it's ever been an issue. He's always done it, you know. Yeah, it's got like the minimum hasn't seemed like it's gotten in the way of him getting sixty five and a half. It doesn't happen here because these injuries with the Cowboys seem to be a trend. So it's definitely, yeah, it's just the Cowboys. Yeah, in my eyes, it's just a but I did have another bastion. But

I did have another question though on this. Do you guys think that this move was about Now we already talked a little bit about Tyrone Crawford, do you think it's also somewhat of an indictment on a guy like Tristan Hill, who they drafted in the second round, and you would think that maybe they would be looking for him to get an increased role when Crawford goes down,

especially at the defensive tackle position. Do you think that this move was more about that or more about the fact that, look, we're really replacing what Tyron Crawford did, and Tristan Hill is still going to be just Triston Hill, which means he's going to be an active So both. I mean, I think that the fact that when when Crawford went down, you were hoping that Tristan Hill would be ready to, you know, kind of step in, and

now he's probably going to be inactive again. So yeah, it's an indictment on the fact that he's not ready to contribute, not that he was ever going to be as good as Michael Bennett, I don't think, but I mean now, not now, but just saying I mean, yeah, you knew that, but I think that if he was a really good player, you know, that was playing at a starting level, no, you wouldn't feel the need to do that. But would you expect more or do you

expect more from a second round pick? Absolutely? Yes, now, I mean you know, yeah, I feel like people give us a hard time for like defending the pick simply because I mean, it's way too soon to call him a bust. I mean, that's a multiple year conversation, but fifty eighth overall pick. His role on this team is very, very disappointing. There's no way around it. I don't necessarily

think those things are connected. And I applaud the Cowboys because again, this is this is the exact type of trade that I love to see, where you're like, how can we aggressively make this team better without mortgaging something like a first round pick like the Coop. You know, it's they're not in two years. Nobody's gonna be like, oh my god, they don't have that seventh round pick. What are we gonna do? You know, like nobody's approaching it that way. So I applaud them for finding a

smart way to be aggressive. I think they might have done it if Tristan Hill was good. But at the same time, you know, it reminds me of kind of

Tony Pollard a little bit. When Zeke holds out, everybody's like, well, let's you know, we feel good about this Tony guy, Like let's see, let's see how much we're gonna miss Zeke during the preseason, And sure some of that was posturing, but like, you're not hearing any of that about Tristan Hill, like there's there's no positive hype about his performance to this point in the season on the field or even you know, not even like behind the scenes, like man,

he's he's really given the scout team fits though, or like he's given the starters fits on the scout team. Like you're not hearing any of that type of stuff, And that's disappointing for a guy that was drafted in the top sixty picks. And I'll say this though, I've I've heard from coaches just off camera and off the record type conversations where they're talking very highly of Tristan

Hill in his future. And I understand how fans can be upset of you know, they keep asking, oh, what's up with this draft pick and he's not being productive on the field, And yeah, that's kind of upsetting in a way. But at the same time, you got to look at the future and how what he can develop into. This guy, I've seen a lot of potential from him even just watching him I practice training camp, and what he's done just hit his drive. He gets up and

does it again and gets angry and keeps pushing. He's not the type of guy that's just kind of walking around with his head down, kicking his foot around. You know, he has Justin Hill. Yes, this is surprising to me because I've never heard anyone say that. I haven't seen that. I to the point where I was not to cut you off, but I was wondering, are we still talking

about Tristan Tristin Hill. Yes, I was well when I when I heard people talking highly of him, not necessarily for this year though, for the future and what he can turn into and what they see him becoming, not as of right now for this season. We actually talked about We did a draft show during the bye week and we talked about that with Tom Siskowski, which and I don't view it. How do I view it? It's I guess it is a little bit of an indictment.

I don't blame them, I guess is my point. But when you hear the cliche in the spring about best player available, remember this, because it's very obvious to me that they reached for a position that they thought they needed down the line. They thought, you know, they need a versatile tackle who they think can rush the passer. They love his traits, they do feel very good about

what he can become. But it's pretty obvious to me that they probably drafted him thinking that he might not have a huge role on this team, and that's a pick for the future, and they probably knew they couldn't get him at and I think they picked at ninety or ninety one, like he won't be there then and we need him, so we're drafted him early. And so I don't blame them for that because in the long run, I do think it's a smart call. But they reached for him. They just did an NFL Sorry, NFL teams

do that in the draft all the time. They don't want you to think that they do, but they do. And by the way, this is a team that traditionally the second round pick is a pick they are willing to take chances with. They say, hey, we'll draft a guy that's injured and know that we may not get much out of him the first year. We hope by the second, the third, the fourth year, we do. And they've had mixed success with it. There have been some guys that have panned out, there have been some guys

that have not. But the point is they love to take chances in the second round. I think it gets even hot more highlighted when they don't have a first round pick, because then your top pick is a guy that is a guy that's either boom or bust. Totally, that's it's unfair to Tristan that he, you know, I mean, he's being shouldered with first round expectations because he was

the first guy picked. If they had a first rounder playing great and starting every game and Tristan Hill wasn't doing much, I don't think I don't think that many people were seeing second rounders get hidden because they had two first round picks. Nobody really remembers Kevin Burnett, you know, in the second round of I know you do. He probably wasn't or the same mother. But I'm just saying, because you have two first round picks, it's like no

one's thinking about that. We haven't really talked about him because he's been hurt. But Connor McGovern I just said they reached for Hill. Connor McGovern was a true best player available pick, Like it was just so obvious that they should draft him that they did it. If he was healthy and inactive, nobody would care because they'd be like, well, yeah, like what's he supposed to do? Like there's pro bowlers and experienced starters at every position on the line, and

so it's just the circumstances that you're drafted into. But having said that, you should not be a healthy inactive if you're a top sixty pick. It's just not a good look. All right, we're gonna take our final break. When we come back, I want to talk about the trade deadline. It's happening today at four pm Eastern time. I want to ask you guys, if you think the Cowboys make a move, and if they do, what position would it be. Well, when we come right back, this

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Championship presented by Spire. Dave you play men, I dabble. I was actually at the risk of sounding like an old man, like it's so complex now, like there's all these skills and the player cards and you got to upgrade your players, and I just want to press the buttons. One time, Sean Alexander was on the cover kidding really yeah, I remember, do you playing back in the day? No, not that I like the college game. Oh that's what you can play college football on this year's copy. I

got a copy of it. Like they let you. We're getting into the weeds here, but you can play the college football playoff as one of like eight teams and where you play no nice and concise. She's like back to the Cowboys times, back to the Cowboy good. All right, yeah, all right. Let's the question I ask you guys before the break was about the trade deadline. Today. Jerry Jones was asked about that, ask whether they'd still be out in that market. He says, we're always looking, we're giving

a thought to that end. Anything as possible. That all being said, and knowing how everything transpired so quickly last Thursday to none of us that none of us expected. If the Cowboys were to make a move today, what position do you think it better be? Safety? I didn't even let me get that out safety safety? Is there

any other position? Because I made a case before we went on the air that I thought, if you can get yourself a blocking tight end, I'd be willing to get up a seventh round, sixth round pick something like that to get myself up. Speaking of blocking tight being up, are you ready to give up on Dalton Schultz as a player? Okay? Then yeah, I mean if you give me, if you told me I could have a really good blocking tight end that I could pair with Blake jarw

I went in and Jason Witten. I'm willing to say, Okay, I'm willing to call that a move forward because that's pretty significant and fourth round pick in the middle of a second year. I will keep saying the same thing that I've been saying, and I'm sorry if it goes against the constantly try to improve your roster, but like, I'm just not touching that until Jason Witten retires like again, and you know, I don't know off the top of my head what a snap count is, but he's going

to command a certain snap count. It's gonna be high. You want to develop Blake Jarwin, I get that. I get what you're saying, Like, yeah, that would be nice to have, but I'll just worry about it when Jason Witten finally calls it occurred. Have you seen any developing from Dalton Schultz. I know he hasn't gotten many chances, but still but again, like, okay, so you're gonna trade away an asset for a guy who's gonna get similarly

few chances. Well, but if he's blocking on the goal line down there, I mean, he could be better than what you have here. Let's just throw Jumbo Joe out there instead. Hey, I'm all in on that. And to me and Nick talked about that last week too, I'd be all in on that. But it was after that that last I think it was the last game. We what no what When I get rid of him? Situation no no, no, nor want to get him out touchdown dance would be It would be like break the internet, right,

I just like I said, like I said, it doesn't jive. Basically, I'm sitting here saying I know it's not good enough, and I'm still not going to do anything about it. It's just whatever. Like the minute, the minute Jason witt And decided to come out of retirement, I like that position just went into a holding pattern and just says

what it is. I just think right now, when you look around the NFC, I think the Cowboys are in a really interesting spot because if they really want, in my opinion, if they really want an opportunity to be able to get to the super Bowl, they may have to go and push all the chips in. And what I mean by that is they gotta go and get that one player that can get them over the hump.

I mean, if that's what we're talking about, that we're not talking about a block you're right, and you're right about talking about a guy who happens to live or come from a town right down the street here in DF. You know we're talking I know exactly what we're talking about. But that's the kind of to me when you look at these teams like we were talking at yesterday, he's actually he's from Beaumont, which you have nowhere near um No.

I mean, you look at at this team and you look at teams like the Packers, you look at teams like the Saints, you look at the forty nine ers. There are some teams up there right now that maybe Michael Thomas is the guy that gets you over the hump. Maybe he is maybe that gives you the kind of pass rush that you feel Michael Thomas, Michael Bnnet, But maybe Michael Bennet is that kind of guy that can

get you over the hump. I look back at those New York Giants teams that won the Super Bowl, and in both instance it was it because their defensive front was so stout they were able to get a pass rush and that's how they were able to beat the Ads twice. Maybe he's that kind of guy and can still give you that kind of pass rush. But if he's not, then I think you have to look at this and say, if you really want to compete this year for a championship, you might have to go all in.

And that might mean and this is the question for you, guys, are you willing to give up another first round pick to go and get an over the top type place. Well, if I know, you know, and they did a good job last year, or the foresight to go, Okay, there's not a lot of receivers or whatever, so in next year's draft and go ahead and get Amari Cooper if they can kind of do something similar and go all right, we're gonna be somewhere between sixteen and twenty five or

who knows. But is there going to be a game changing safety there? Because you need a safety, you need a draft to safety, and Jeff Heath is unrestricted, and you know they got to move on and get better at safety anyway. So maybe that's it would be hard to trade your first round pick two years in a row and be successful at it. But but you're getting a wide receiver who is twenty four years old, who will be here for eight to ten years, and and if you did, you maybe would get a safety in

the same boat. I will address the elephant in the room or the tiger in the room, as happens to be the case. I've already said I would do that deal. His name is Jamal Adams. He plays for the Jets. The thing is it would be completely different from Amari because you wouldn't have to turn around and pay him. He's got eight don't think, well, you're right, I mean, you could get in a situation where he does theoretically, like I want to hold out him moment, theoretically after

this year, you can negotiate with him. I do not think he is that astonishingly good that he would try to do that. So I think you would get eight years of this eight sorry, eight games of this year, one more very cheap rookie year, and then then he's still a fifth year option. Yes he does. He's a top ten pick, and so you could get a safety in the sixteen to twenty five range. Derwin James was drafted in that range, but why not just go get a guy who's drafted top five in his draft class

who would love to be here. The problem is, and you know, I'm not trying to get people excited, because that's I think the price at the end of the day. I just I think it would cost you more than a first round pick, because it's not just that he's a good player, it's that he's got all those years remaining. You're talking about a young piece, and that's why you know, the Jets aren't trying to ship off this disgruntled veteran

who doesn't have a future there. They want him to be a core piece of what they're trying to so they have to get the one to replace him, plus something else that makes it valuable because he is better than a first round pick right now, because you know what you're getting and already he's a commodity that already exists right The guys on one oh five through the Fan asked me about this, and I was like, I

would bet you any amount of money. The Cowboys have inquired about this, like they're not dumb, it's just are they willing to pay the price. And in a world where Jalen Ramsey fetches two firsts and a fourth, I don't know if Jamal Adams is worth that, but he's certainly worth a lot. And I just don't know if they're willing to pull the trigger off and to lose a first round pick. I think it was clear after you cut Deaz and didn't have anybody that could help.

I mean, you had to get a receiver next year. You knew that. Um, do they feel like they have to get a safety? Know that they don't think like that. Other positions, like let's say Witten doesn't come back, you might need to get a tied end in that range.

You might need to get a cornerback if Byron Jones doesn't come come back, and you might need to get that anyways, knowing that Cheeto and Jordan or will be in the last year of their deals, so there's other positions that you could say, we will probably need to do that. And I said that when you know the Giants trades of end, I mean Robert Quins a free agent.

Robert Quins a free agent for sure. Um. I said that about Leonard Williams yesterday, that you know the Giants traded for him for a third and a fifth, and that's all well and good. That's a cheap price. But the problem is, much like Cooper last year, you got to turn right back around and pay him. He doesn't even have an option year. He's done after this, so you know, hope, for the Giant's sake, I hope they're resigning him. I'm sure they have the cap space to

do it. But the Cowboys, you look at it, You're like, Okay, we can afford to pay all these guys, but at some point we got to have draft capital to place the guys we can afford. You're Damian Wilson's You're maybe you're Byron Jones, is you're I mean, I'm going back a couple of years. But Anthony Hitchins, like, you need draft picks to replace the guys that you can't afford to pet core players that are just kind of like you got, you got your big money guys. We all

know who they are. But then you need draft picks to replenish the rest of your roster and do it cheaply. So how many trades can you afford to make? That's if the Jets would give up Jamal Adams one, just a one for the player, bring it on all day. But if I'm all of a sudden packaging three picks across two different drafts and two of them are you know I can't give up two ones? No, I could do a one in a three. That's It's it's easy to say, like, oh, get them, Jerry, what are you doing?

But like what's the price? And you know at some point you have to draw a line. I would do a one in a two only if the two is the next year. I would do that one second. That's hard because you got all these guys whose contracts are about to be over, and next year this team might look very different than what it does now? Do you not want to just finally just finish going all in

this year and make it happen. See that's kind of my point, is I kind of go the route of I think they've got a lot of great parts right now, and I don't know what it's going to look like

next year when you have some of these unknowns. Right So, if I'm Jerry and I'm sitting there and I'm trying to think of where I am as a team and what it would cost me to do more, I think I'm at a point right now where I'm like, man, if I got that one guy that I think pushes me over, I'm gonna push it all in and I'm gonna say, let's see what happens. Because I do believe. I do believe the Eagles basically bought themselves a championship

because they went all in that year. And I think that, you know, I think the Cowboys have that kind of team where they have enough talent all the different positions that if you're willing to go all in, I think you got a pretty good shot. I would argue that, See, the Eagles gave up a lot to put themselves in position to get wins, and that was the catalyst for everything. But like, that's what I always said, is like none of those moves were just backbreakingly heavy investments like Jern

again was not this crazy investment. A Jay was not this crazy. You're not talking about giving up multiple first and second round picks, which again I got. I mean, and we don't know, but see what I got to know what the price is? Yah, see what they do because they know right now that they just played the game. They're not better than the Cowboys. They know that. I mean, are you what the Eagles? So watch what the Eagles see? I heard how cornerback that both that that that the

Eagles might be looking at who's the cornerback? Yeah, I think that at him? They're looking at Mike Yeah, But I mean that does mean these teams are ready that happen. I'm bummed at how poorly this segment is going to age because in two hours and forty five minutes, it's all it'll all be over. Which but but I love that about the NFL right now. I love the trade deadline is now matters because if many many years it did not, I will say this and you read Jerry's

quote from the fan. I don't know if they're going to do anything, but there's way more smoke than normal that they're interested in adding somebody like Jerry's on Jerry said today, he's like, we've got stuff in the mill. It was like, we're considering things. I was like, are you okay? And he said over the weekend, you know, they donated a million dollars to D I s D, which was really cool. He said at that event. Safety is something that we're interested in, and so I'm like,

Jerry's trying to give us a roadmap. I don't know if we're going to get there, but it's way more smoke than we're used to hearing around this time of year. And honestly, I don't know a lot of other safeties around the league that I would think are worthy of coming in and immediately jumping in and being better, like much better. The guy in the Guy in Miami comes to mind. Rashad Jones, but he's plan last night. I actually didn't watch the game, but I heard he made

a good play, pretty good. I would have done that too. I know m Jones's salary is pretty big, though, and that's so Yeah, I mean, there aren't a lot of There aren't a lot of great safeties on bad teams. Yeah, other than the ones mainly the one that we've talked about, So I don't know. We'll see, we shall see. Today is the deadline at four I guess four pm Eastern time, so three pm Central time. We'll see if the Cowboys make any moves, and we'll be back tomorrow talk about it,

see what happens. And then also we're gonna get into the Cowboys versus Giants, and I guess we're gonna have the Giants offensive breakdown tomorrow from Dave Till then for Nick even Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.