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Could this be the game the Cowboys finally turn things around? The crew has varying opinions on just how close this game will be.

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The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clubs. Are you ready for a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Friday, October ninth, twenty twenty, season sixteen, episode number forty one. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

We've got so much to talk about today. We've got a little bit of news here heading into the show, so we're gonna spend quite a bit of time talking about Tyren Smith and what that means for the rest of this team for the rest of this season. We'll also get you guys ready for Cowboys versus Giants, will talk a little bit about the offense versus Giants defense, and also Cowboys defense versus the Giants offense, and then

we'll get to predictions. See how these guys think the game will play out this Sunday at three thirty at at and T Stadium. We got to start though with Tyren Smith during his press conference this morning. Mike McCarthy made it clear, I guess made the announcement that it is now official that Tyren Smith will have surgery on his neck and that means he will be lost for

the season. That now makes two offensive linemen Cowboys were expecting to have two of their better offensive linement they were expecting to have that are now out for the year. When you include Lyle Collins, if you want to go back to last year, three starters that are now no longer going to be on this team for the rest or at least playing for this team for the rest of the year, when you throw in Travis Frederick. That all being said, I want to get reactions to this news.

Let's start first with Unick. I hope he's okay. You know, I hope he's okay for not just not playing. But you know, this is he's at a point his career and that's a that's an injury that you don't want to mess around with. Of course, he's done everything that one individual can do. They haven't been to the Super Bowl, of course, but he's done as great as you know, He's had a phenomenal career. I'm not saying he's done.

I hope he's okay. I hope this is just a setback for this year to get back and get ready to go. Yes, they're gonna miss him, and let them talk about, you know how much he's gonna be missed. But I just for his sake, man, I hope, I hope he comebacks. Ope he can come back next year and this will be he'll be better for this surgery.

Amber Well, you know it's something serious when he gets to the point where they decide to get him to get surgery, because a guy like Tyrn, I mean, he's one of the toughest players I've ever seen in the time that I've been following football. I mean, it's amazing the things that he's been able to endure, endure and then go through. So I know that it must be pretty bad that to the point that it's gonna end the rest of the season for him being submitted to

a surgery. But like Nick said, I do hope that it's not something that it's completely just career ending. I know that this is something that Tyrant has been dealing with, not just the next but just his back in general. He's been dealing with for several years. So hopefully it's he's able to make it through and come back next year better Dave. In a weird way, I'm kind of relieved, and I don't I mean, obviously it sucks that Tyrn

can't play. It's going to be a challenge. You know, you got what two starts out of him, so you got to make your way through fourteen games without one of the best two or three left tackles in football.

But it's kind of a relief just that you know, hopefully he feels better, Hopefully he can get this taken care of and play a few more years where he's relatively healthy, because this guy has just been in pain for like five years, and you know, we're in the locker room, we're around the team like, I don't you know. It's Romo esque the way that this guy has just dealt with nagging problems and it's been five years at this point. So I'm relieved that he's gonna hopefully get

it taken care of the lineup. But in a weird way, it's kind of a relief on the Cowboys end that you know you're not gonna wake up on Sunday and be like, oh crap, it's flaring up on Tyron again, we're gonna have to downgrade him, and I you know, I'm not trying to talk trash on Tyront. I know he works as hard as he can to get in the lineup, but you just kind of have some certainty that he is down and not part of this season anymore, and you don't have that uncertainty. Let's talk about what

this means for this offense. We've looked at the Cowboys now through four games, and I think we all agree they are a high powered, very potent offense, and some of that they've had to do without Tyrant. The one thing I look at, though, is I think they've only and you guys may have a different difference of opinion here, but I think they face two premier pass rushers so far this year. Aaron Donald Miles Garrett. Both of them

had their way with this offensive line. They had moments in those games when they created problems for this offensive line. As you get farther into this season, you're gonna face some better defenses at times that pass rush. You can think what you want to think about Washington's defense, but

their pass rush is outstanding. They got some real good players up front that can rush the pass or you look at a defense is like Baltimore, and I think that they're gonna be some some challenges for this offense. How much do you guys think this changes how potent this offense can be with now the loss of Tyren Smith for the year, not just for a couple of games, not just for a half, but for the entire season.

Let's start first with you, Dave. I mean, they haven't They've had Tyrn for half of these games, and in the ones that they didn't have them, they still looked plenty of potent to me, And I mean, of course it's gonna be a problem. Of course, it's gonna suck. You know, they have played a couple of premier pass rushers, but they've also gotten a little bit lucky in the sense that Seattle in Atlanta don't. They don't have that. The Giants aren't going to have that on that level

this weekend. But let's talk after that Washington game. They've got about ninety five badass pass rushers, So yeah, there there's gonna be There's gonna be some rough patches for sure, but um, Dave at least shown that they can still put up yards and points without these guys in the lineup, So there's gonna be some moments that scare me and

should scare everybody, But I don't. I don't think it's gonna be so bad that they're going to revert to looking like, you know, like twenty eighteen prior to the Cooper trade. I think they can still you know, be efficient. Amber, I agree, We've seen it happened. I mean, we've seen a game where they had to play without tiring and

they've made it work. My only concern would be, just let the off clean up your game, clean it off from the beginning, to start moving the offense from the beginning of the game, and not wait until something that you mentioned Derek about a week ago. You know, the question is like, Okay, are they playing better maybe because the defense is starting to get tired a little bit and kind of loosening it up during the game. So

you cannot let that happen. You need to find a way to figure it out from the beginning of the game, first half of the game and get him moving because it's not always gonna work out. As we've seen, it doesn't matter how much they try to come back. It doesn't necessarily mean that you're gonna walk out of that game winning. But to go back to your question, we've seen it happen, so I do think that they're capable of making it work. Well. I think it's going to

be a problem in the run game. I mean just because and then it has been a problem. You can figure out a way to offset a pass rush and by just throwing the ball quickly and get it out of your hands and maybe help Chip and all that stuff. But when it comes to actually trying to run the ball people, you know, we forget that about Tyron Smith, not forget, but I think his his athletic ability for his size is something that we always talk about. But he's got power too, of course, and he helps in

that run game. And I think that they're just gonna miss that, you know, they're just like they miss lyall Collins is power as well. So that's where and that affects their balance. And we've talked about this before. And you get down in the red zone you have sometimes it's harder to run the ball in their short yardage. I think that's just they're going to continue to miss it.

And she just says clean it up. That sounds good, but you're talking about players that are now inexperience and their game isn't clean, you know, because they're young, they're really they just got they just got here. Um, you know, it sounds like they're gonna I don't know who's gonna start it this week, but it sounds like it could be a guy that you know, it's bounced around on practice squads that might be starting this week. Yeah, let's

before we get to that. I do want to talk about where we think this this thing falls as far as who's going to be playing at what position. But I do want to get opinions from Dave and Amber regarding which you just talked about, how much does this affect the running game? Which do you think is more affected by the loss of Tyren Smith for the season, the past game or the run game? Amber, I think

definitely the running game. I mean, we've seen them being able to get the passing game going, but as far as the running game, Ezekiel Elia hasn't been able to be as productive as he's been in previous years, and obviously that's something that they are lacking in himself too. Obviously, these errors where he gets the ball loose and all that I think that's something that he can clean up himself.

And then as far as the running game goes once I truly believe that once they solidify the offensive line, and I know that there are some inexperienced guys are just not the amount of experience as your previous starter

tackles that you had before. But sorry, I'm rambling a little bit basically what I'm trying to say, once you figure out and clean up the offensive line, solidify it, I do think that eventually it's gonna take a couple of weeks for Ezekiel Elio to be able to get his running game back into place and be able to be a little bit more productive than what we've seen so far. Dave, No, it's actually it's a really good point.

And I hadn't I hadn't considered it because I'm I just want to ring wing it around all the time. So yeah, it's it's probably gonna not be great. You're gonna miss that, but just throw the ball. Zeke's a great pass protector, so that should help you out in that regard. I mean, I have absolute faith that the passing game can still can still be viable. I'll be interested to see what the running game can get going with so many moving parts, I would expect it to

not look amazing. You know, I just thought of this. You might actually might help your running game just from the fact that you're going to help your tackle, whoever it is. I mean, I think Blake Bell's gonna get more snaps this week. You're gonna keep the tight ends in more. And by doing that, you might see more looks on your defensive front on the defense to run the ball, you know, and by doing that, because then

you're gonna have better blockers in place to help. But then you know, Dak might look out and go, we should just change this into a draw or run here, And so therefore you might see that because of the first personnel they're forced to play to help. Yeah, that could happen. The one part that I'm a little bit concerned about when it comes to all of this is I think the best thing that the Cowboys passing game

does is go down feel. That's the part that they can create these really big plays and they can quickly get back into a ball game that they fall behind him because they have that ability to go down feel. If teams look at this and say, hey, they don't have the time to be able to go downfield, or if we got a good enough pass rush to what we don't give them the time to go down feel.

What you do is neutralize what the Cowboys do best in their passing game, in my opinion, And if you do that, that makes it tough on you on both sides, because not only will you not be able to do what you do best in the passing game, but teams don't have to worry about the deep ball as much. That means they can bring that safety down. That means they can stop the run. They got an extra guy to stop the run. So I think all the way around,

that's what I'll be playing. I'll be looking at, is can the Cowboys keep that part of their off that's still flowing. Can they still go down feel and utilize a guy like Michael Gallop in those moments in games when they they're gonna go down feel? And if they can't do that consistently, I think that's gonna be one of the lynch pins that could really really hurt this offensive.

This offense. Let's let's talk a little bit about the offensive line and how you think it will be constructed, and I want to look at this from a couple of different perspectives. Obviously, this morning on the radio and one on five to out of three the fan here locally, Jerry mentioned something kind of hinting around at the possibility of Zach Martin moving to tackle. Let's talk about, first of all, what do you think the Cowboys will do?

Not necessarily what we what you want to see, what do you think the Cowboys will do for this week on the five positions on the offensive line. Let's start. Let's start first with you, Nick, since you're having so much consternation over there. I mean, it's really tough. The only thing I think you can just hang your hat on it is to say that Tyler Beyotest will be its center. Yeah, I mean, everything else is really up in the air. I think we know, though, I mean

I would guess I'll take a stab at it. I mean, I think it's going to be Brandon Knight left left tackle, Connor left guard, Beyodi at center, Zach at right guard, and then a right tackle. Let me get my coin out and flip here Senat maybe because because Jerry mentioned him on the radio, and I just think that they do watch tape and they see Steele. I just can't imagine Steel being the starter, but I think you will be. You think Still's gonna be the starter? Still Steel for now? Yeah,

I mean I don't love it. I mean, you know what I heard about Snat was like, man, he's a really good basketball player. And I'm like, well, you know, they're not playing the Mavericks this week. They're actually playing you know, the Giants. I don't know what that helps you, but but athletic. I get a Partnell type athletic, you know, good quick feet and all that kind of stuff. Amber,

what do you think the five this weekend? I mean I would agree with Nick and say the same thing I don't obviously want to put I don't want to put Steal out there. But as far as the other guys, you obviously the Cowboys are gonna know more than we do, but me personally, I don't. I can't speak much about the other guys that they brought in because I haven't seen any I haven't been able to see much from them,

So it's gonna be tough. I mean, do you go with the guy that you haven't really played just yet, or do you go back to what you already know? It's like pick pick with your poison. Which one do you prefer? Do you take a risk and plug the new guy in and just see how it works, or do you go back to the chance of hoping that Steel just plays a little bit better than he's done in the previous games. But as of right now, and

that's a tough question, I really don't know. I see every possibility as a something that could happen, because we've seen that McCarthy is not afraid to plug a guy in. And it doesn't matter if like, oh, this was the starter last week. He doesn't care. He's gonna suit it up if he needs too. Dave, don't sell yourself short Amber.

You like to think that the Cowboys know better than you, But everybody in America wanted Brandon Knight at right tackle last week, and they went with Terren Steele, and they admitted they were wrong after about fifteen snaps. I don't. I mean, it's impossible to predict who plays right tackle unless you're allowed at practice, which we are not. It'll be I think, I do think they're going to try to stick with an actual tackle at tackle for as long as possible. It might be Steel, it might be

Jordan Mills, it might be Greg snot. I I don't have a feeling. I know for a fact that they've tried all three, like all three of them are are getting reps. I think they're gonna try one of them, and Zach is going to be your your break glass in case of emergency. And if that happens, you probably plug Connor McGovern in at right guards since Joe Looney's hurt. So, I mean, I don't know who will get the start, but I would guess they're going to try to stick

with the tackle. It's amazing that you're going into this game and there's four legitimate options to play right tackle, three of them that day, you know, just mentioned and I didn't even throw Jordan Mills out there, who's played the most of anybody. He played for the Bills, and you know, he was actually here for like a few hours back. I don't remember what year. Nobody remembered him except for Rob Phillips, who remembers everything, and he did remember.

I think it was twenty fifteen, but yeah, yeah, which is the year that everyone tried to forget. But I just think that there's so many options there, and ye, Dave said it best. These are the three and then because it is a Rob Peter to pay Paul type situation, if you move Zach Martin out to tackle, and then you have the guard because now you're gonna put a guard in there that's never played. So yeah, I mean you look at Georgian question. But yeah, I was gonna

ask whatever happened to Ron Leary. I know he came in and was looked at and all that, but I never heard anything actually happening with that is them you know where. I know you weren't necessarily looking for a guard, but at the same time, if you think of moving side Martin maybe to the tackle position, maybe Leary is an option by guard. Yeah, I mean, I really don't know why it broke down. I don't know if it was money, if it was not a good fit, if

it wasn't in good shape. I might have just been time and they were like, right now, we'll hole still and we know that that's in our back pocket, and maybe now they got to go to their back Well, okay, they are going to do this, and this isn't their back pocket, this is a side pocket. I guess I don't know, but they're gonna bring Adam Redman, and I wish I could see the look I get Derek here. No, look yeah, side probably not. He's been here, he's easy,

he's played, he's played different positions. I think he's actually played some center. I think he's center guard. Yeah, so you know it's it's more of a backup. I mean, I think he's here. But of course, now you know you have to you have to be on the radar for two months before you can get something. I mean, no, it's six days. But I think I think he's going to be in the COVID protocol for to to get you know, take the test, so he can be ready,

ready to play. I mean at this point, when I look at this team, I'm I'm just like, Okay, you got a guy like Jordan Mills who has played a lot, Yeah, and on an offensive line where that's a premium. Right now,

I would personally say throw Jordan Mills out there. If you want to keep if you want to keep Zach where he is, and you don't want to create you want to create as little extra movement as possible, I think you go with Brandon Knight at left tackle, and I think you put Jordan Mills in there at right tackle and see how that goes. If something should fall apart and it doesn't work, then I would not have

a slightest hesitation in moving Zach Martin. And then let's see what this guy who you had a second round grade in com McGovern what can he do a guard? I just want to see you. I know that they may be seeing him every day in practice. I just want to see what can he do? Also real quick? I know we go to break, but cam Irving is also going to mix into this. Not this week, but it sounds like next week he could be there as well.

But again, again cam Irving, the same cam Irving who the Cowboys decided Terrence Steele should play out exactly right over him. Yeah, all right, so we're gonna take our first break. When we come back, let's talk about Cowboys versus Giants. Will hit the offense, we'll hit the defense. May even have a question on special teams. We'll talk about that when we come right back this Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. We're back in a tasty treat that's

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or shop dot Dallas Cowboys dot com. Welcome back at his the second segment of the show Life in the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star, we've talked about Tyren Smith in the offensive line and what that will mean for this offense. Now let's focus in a little bit on this upcoming game. Cowboys take on the Giants this Sunday three thirty at at and T Stadium. Let's first start by can I say something real quick about Tyren Smith. Sure never alluded to it, but I just

want to throw this point too. How great is he to be to need surgery? I mean, he needed if he needed it now, he needed it last week too. To need surgery on your neck would still play eighty two snaps And I don't remember really a problem from him in that game. And you know, Miles Garrett wasn't even sniff in that side of the field. He didn't have to, I mean, but still he didn't have any issues. He played eighty two snaps. He didn't feel good after

the game at all, Like you tell. I saw him actually walking into the slower than usual because Tyren's got that slow glidewalk anyways, but slower than usual. But he like, just to be able to play at that level and need next urgury, it's amazing. I mean, he he is by far. I mean, he could never play another snap and he'll be in the Ring of Honor and Hall of Fame. I think. I think hall of fame as a person who battled neck issues for a long time and then ultimately had to have neck surgery. I can

tell you it is the worst existence. Not possible, but it sucks because sleeping at night, which is the time you really need to recharge, that's a luxury when you got neck issues. And so if he's been dealing with this for years, my hat's off to him. And by the way, he's on top of that going out and getting into a car wreck every weekend. Basically that I respect every respect. Yeah, just not just every weekend, every

minute I heard. I mean, I herniated a disc in my back like three years ago, and anybody that knows me knows that I'd still whine about it, like like bending over to pick stuff up sucks. And he played he played football with that for months, for for months, during a several years stretch. The man went out there with that and had people, you know, yeah, getting into a car wreck every week. I mean, he's the toughest m effort I've ever spent time around in my life.

So the moral to this story is he is a bad dude, and we all respect what he's done. And hope, as you started this conversation with Nick, hope that this means that he has, first of all, that he has a better quality of life than what he's been experienced. These last few years. But on top of that, hopefully it means he can come back and he can continue his career and he can play well for the remainder of his career because he is an outstanding player and

a really tough seven straight Pro Bowls. Yep, it's gonna snap. Yep, it's gonna you know, it's gonna end obviously. All right, this game, let's jump into it. Let's talk Cowboys versus Giants. Let's start first with the Giant offense versus a Dallas defense. How concerned to you about Daniel Jones and his ability to scramble? Last year? He I mean last week he

was tied for most rushing yards on their team. I think with forty five he is Throughout his career, he's been a guy that certainly he can get out of the pocket, and he can he can make you pay a little bit. How concerned to you that about that? With this particular defense, Let's start first with you Amber. Look, last week, I was convinced. I was convinced that the Cowboys were gonna have a great game. I had my

hopes up. I believed. I thought, Man, this is gonna be the games where the defense is able to kind of start turning things around and play a little bit better. That obviously didn't happen. It was actually worse than what we've been seeing so this weekend, regardless of them playing the Giants and the Giants offense being absolutely terrible, I am worried about every aspect of the game. Doesn't matter

that it's the Giants. I do not trust the Cowboys defense, even though I still believe that they're gonna hopefully play better this weekend. They should Otherwise I'm just gonna I'll give up talking about the defense. But right now, any little thing so he's scrambling, yes, that's gonna be a problem. The Cowboys defense has had an issue with stopping the running game and trying to attack the pocket getting there

and attack the quarterback. So anything that they do, any little thing like that, any little scramble, yes, the Cowboys are gonna have to string scramble behind him and go after him. So yeah, it's gonna be a problem, all right, Dave, You know it really bums me out about Daniel Jones. I mean, yeah, like he's gonna be able to extend some plays and they're gonna have to account for that. Probably pick up a first down or two that you

would prefer he not. But what bums me out about Daniel Jones is early scouting report on him at this point in his career is that he's good for a handful of really dumb decisions per game. Like, you know, he doesn't have a lot of talent around him. He's athletic enough to extend plays and he's gonna try to force some things because he needs to. And what bums me out is that I just don't trust the Cowboys to take advantage of that, Like, why should we have

faith that they will? Like they don't get takeaways. They haven't this season, they haven't in seasons past. You know, we saw a lot out of Treyvon Diggs in training camp in terms of ball skills that hasn't translated to the season to this point, at least not as well as you would prefer. You know, I think he's had to drop picks, So it just sucks to think that he's probably gonna give you those opportunities. And I just

don't trust the Cowboys to take advantage of them. Yeah, nobody that's playing in the game has an interception for the Cowboys, right, I think she is the only one, and of course Trayvon Diggs did force that fumble. But yeah, I mean, I do think that that I think the Cowboys will get some turnovers in this game. I think that they will this will be their best defensive performance of the game, I mean, this season. But um, you know, I just really is concerned about this one at all.

I mean, I'm not. I just I don't think I heard, you know, I was told today on the radio one or five three that the Giants their vegas is saying that their point total will be what twenty one and over under. That shocks me that I getting twenty one points on the Cowboys. They're not. So I just think this is gonna this is not gonna be in a close game. I really don't. Why are you so sure about that? I just think that Giants are terrible, terrible, I really do. I think, but I think I think

that they're terrible. And I know what you're about to say. I mean, but I don't. I don't don't do anything really well, and they Cowboys do one thing really well. I think we'll see that. I think it's just gonna be a fight about who gets punched in the face first. And I think the Cowboys will well this game. They'll

do it. And if you do that to the Giants with the way their offense is set up, I think all I'm saying is the Cowboys are gonna strike first, strike first strike hard, no mercy, sir, you have no idea, just to make sure you were gonna oh really well score right, score the score on offense? They yeah, I mean they score, they throw the ball, they pass around, and I know that both tackles are out, but I

think that they'll ste that. I think they'll strike on the on the Giants first, and then I think that'll force Daniel Jones and them to kind of have to force the back in the game, and I don't think they will. I think the Cowboys win this one, probably by three touchdowns. All right, let me throw the set. You did that right now? Um, you got Jack Garrett

coming back to town. Obviously, the advantage of a guy like Jayson who's been here for so long is that, uh, he doesn't know the scheme necessarily, he's not a part of the coaching meetings and all. A lot of stuff changes. But what he doesn't know really well is the personnel. If you were Jason Garrett and you were coming back to play the Cowboys, what particular player or position do you think you would be looking at to say that's

the guy we need to exploit. Oh well, yeah, who is the guy that you're looking at right now saying this is the gap we're gonna go and exploit this week because we know that we can get him in these situations and we know we can take advantage of him. I'll start with you same answers last week, and it will be the same answer. I'm looking at five four every shot I get if I'm the opponent. He is the lynchpin of the defense. He in the run defense as well as in coverage. You got a super athletic

tight end. I don't think the Cowboys are crazy enough to try to cover Evan Ingram with Jalen Smith, but you should be able to take advantage of space in the middle of the field and try him in the right game see if he's up to it. Nope, he

was last week and until otherwise, until proven otherwise. I think of Jaylen Smith as like nick um, I didn't hear that last thing that Dave just said, but um, yeah, somebody somebody called me while I was in the middle of making my point, thank you State Farm Auto Insurance means you need to change airplane mode the guy I'm looking at. Sorry, oh man. I you know last week it was Treyvon Diggs, and I don't really know if

that if it matters. I mean, it's just whoever the Giant's best best matchup is, because there's not one guy that that does things exceptionally well right now. So I think it's just wherever the matchup goes, you know, I thought on hanging with the boys this week. Nate Newton had a great point. He said, Eric Polstra knows it knows exactly what Lebron James is, and he can't stop him. You know, so sometimes just knowing personnel doesn't always mean

that you can stop him. That makes sense when you're talking about Lebron James. They don't have any Lebron James on this defense. They don't. I don't know that there are guys on this team you're like on this defense. And that it was wow that that have shown that if you like, I know how to get that guy, I'm gonna take you out at this game that you all said you can't do it because he's just too good. We haven't seen that play. I don't have any Lebron

James on their side of the ball either. Maybe not not bad example. Sorry I was told this week sometimes my analogies are bad. Maybe if you flip the coin and you talked about Cowboys offense versus the Giants defense, maybe that's the that's a good analogy. Maybe I don't know, Amber, what do you think? I got nothing from from Nick's comment? Like, I don't even know what you said. What was your point? Everybody is wall sound like me. Now you're supposed to

sound better than me when when you speak. Look, but no, I honestly I have not been watching the Giants play this this year. I've seen some little highlights here and there, but overall, I don't I would assume that Jason Garrett is still the same Jason Garrett we've known for the past why ten years. So with the way that the Cowboys defense is playing, I think that there's nothing that scares me if I'm the opponent. There's no area that scares me from the Cowboys defense other than al Donna Smith.

Other than that, nobody else. So I think you just spake and choose your battle depending on the best player that you got on your offense and the area that you as an offense would rather try to exploit. Well, I will say this, the one thing that I think we learned from Jason Garrett during his time here is the whole concept of the nameless, faceless opponent. And if that's the case and they're not really looking for matchups to exploit, then that helps the Cowboys, I think. But

I agree with you, Dave. If there were one player, it was one player, and Jason was willing to have his offense kind of geared towards taking advantage of one player, I think you would probably look at it and even say, I know what teams did to us, and we can go back through a number of teams that tried and created opportunities for themselves to be able to isolate Jalen in coverage and when they did that a lot of

times they were successful. And so I do look at that matchup and that actually matches up with the one area, like Dave said, that's the one area that the Giants offense actually have A pretty good player like Evan Ingram is a good tight end and he's a very athletic

tight end. So if I'm the Giants and if I'm Jason Garrett, I'll go into this game thinking how can I create opportunities to isolate j Jalen where he's gonna have to cover him, and then try to take advantage of that matchup because I think that is their best matchup, the Giants offense versus the Cowboys defense. All right, we're gonna take our final break. When we come back, We're gonna flip and talk a little bit about the Giants defense versus the Cowboys offense before we end the show

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a very good I actually miss seeing Miss Price. Like every game, home game, I would walk down sideline, I'd run into Miss Price because she was always there. Now, what he wants to bring in the studio? Sure, why not? Let's see if Miss Price is available. Not. No, we can't bring her in here. No I can't do that. But no, I can't get them in here. Hey maybe, Hey, I'm with you. I always like seeing her if the

Cowboys won. If they didn't win, then it was kind of because she was sad and all that, she still was Miss Price when to lose, she still was Miss Price. She could be here without the microphone and you would hear her. Yes, he's absolutely all right, let's get back into it. Let's let's joined the virtual call. Oh, put it on. Yeah, we could. We could always get well, I don't know, we got to see if somebody's at

our house, second helper get on. I'm not sure she'll be able to get that technology, but well we could try it. Just stereotype in how do you know, I just know, dealing with my mom like sometimes it's a little bit of a challenge, so can get it done? All right, we'll see, we'll see. All right, Um, let's talk about this Giants defense versus the Cowboys offense. When you look at the and I asked Bucky a lot about this earlier this week, you look at the teams

that the Cowboys have played. Obviously they've been really good offensively statistically, but the one game when they were not was against the Rams. That defense, I think is ranked like tenth or eight somewhere in there in past defense. This is the first time since then that the Cowboys will be facing a past defense that is statistically ranked

that high. How much do you guys think that the value is the success that we've seen from the Cowboys offense in a lot of ways is about the defenses that they've played and the defense that they did play that was much better. They only scored seventeen points. Now they're entering a game. How much do you where that's the same case. How much do you think that that may be what plays out here? It'll start first with you. And that's a good point. I mean, the Rams obviously

have one or two really good players. You know, and I've made this point. You know that the Cowboys every game they face, they face somebody on the other side of the ball that's that you arguably the best at their position, and every game that they've faced, and the Rams defense had two of them in the Ramsey and Aaron Donald. The Cowboys don't really have that unless you say the best guard. But guards aren't game changing really. But I think I think you make it a good point,

but I don't I don't think. I think it's still early in the season. I think sample size is still low for that for rankings. I don't see that the Giants are going to be a team that the Cowboys can't move the ball, and I bet you the Cowboys

will will hurt the Giants ranking this week. You know the interesting part about that, before I get to David Amber, is if you look at that game last week the Giants and the Rams played, it was, in my my opinion, somewhat similar to what you saw Cowboys Rams, And that's what started making me think maybe that's a little bit more of what you can expect this weekend. Now. I think the Cowboys offense is superior than to the Giants offense, but I do think it's a similar kind of matchup

where you might see something a little bit different. Let's go to you Amber, what do you think. I hope that's not right as far as I mean, I know the statistics are statics is, but like Nick said, I hope that we're not just creating this vision of what the Cowboys offense might be based on this first month of the game, because then that's basically you're basically telling me that this offense might be worse than what we thought.

Because if they're they faced worst defenses passing defenses, why has it taken them so long to get the ball moving and start connecting. Why until the last quarter of the game base to start moving everything. So I would hope that that's not fully the case, and that there's a lot more. And I know the game cannot purely be judged based on statistics, but if that's the case, then crap. You made me more concerned. Now, you know, I will throw this out though, amber early in the games,

that's typically when the turnovers have been happening. So I do think that's a part of it why this offense has not gotten off some of those faster starts that you want them to get off too. But but again I still think that you know, you look at this offense overall, they have not played great defenses except for one or and that's not even a great defense. That's a good defense. We'll get to see this weekend. Dave, what do you think? I respect the question, but respectfully,

I don't give a damn about this sample size. It's four games game one. Game one was against Ben Roethlisberger, who was coming off a full year layoff when he had surgery on his arm. Game two was I believe True Bisky, which we know how that's going for him. The week three was Nick Nick Mullins, who threw for three fifty by the way, and then uh yeah, and then last week, you know, Jared Goff, Yeah, he had a pedestrian day. So what, I don't care. I think

Dak will be fine. If Dak's not fine, it's because they can't keep him clean. Like, if they can keep him relatively clean three sacks or less, he'll be absolutely fine. I'm not worried about it at all, to the tune of, do you think it'll be closer to what we've seen the final three games to weeks two, three, and four? Oh, just a week hopefully hopefully not like you should You should not be throwing for four hundred yards unless you're trying to dig yourself out of a hole or it's

just like an all time shootout like the Romo game. Um, I mean, hopefully hopefully it's not like that. But I mean, yeah, he'll somewhere between two seventy five and three three thirty something like. That's funny how he's, you know, statistically the best in the in the NFL right now and he doesn't have a three hundred yard passing game after four games, yeah, the two, but he doesn't have a three, you know,

which has always been like the standard of that. But I'll say this, I think the Cowboys offense, even though it's four games, I think they figured things out way better than the Rams game. I mean, I think that they they've understood how this offense works. They understand what CD's able to do. The understanding of the tight end can help him. You know. You know, Jarwin got hurt in that game and Schultz was trying to figure his way out. Schultz is showing, you know, to be a

little bit better or a lot better since then. So I just think that the offense has has really developed, and it's had to because they've been on the field for so long. But I think that they're a different offense than they were playing against the Rams. All right, let's flip over and I want to talk a little bit about special teams here. Earlier this week, John Fossil

had a comment about Tony Pollard. Last week, he had another misqe um, if you want to call it, that there was a ball he thought was going to come to the end zone. He was gonna, you know, basically just kind of fair catch it. But um, he let it go and it actually bounces in the field of play and he got to run and go grab it and try to return it. And Fossil's comment was he misread it. It's unfortunate because it was it was the ball that we were looking for with the return that

we called. We were aware that can't happen. Um. He's had some other miscues this season, particularly in kick return situations. Do you think it's time for the Cowboys to look at a different option for their kick returner Nick oh a different option for him Lasik? Seriously, he dropped that ball against Seattle. He dropped that ball in the game. That was a big play. And that and that Um in the game last week. You know, he had wide open space and dacked through the ball in the flat

and then of course he missed. How do he misread that that ball like that? I mean, honestly, I'm not trying to Joe Crown, but it could be it could be a situation for that, like maybe he needs to get his eyes checked. And I'm not I think he's I think he's a good young player. I think he's going to be good. But I mean these are three like elementary style plays that he hasn't made, and maybe

that is an issue. I mean because if you if you look at the ball and the kickoff and you think it's going to go into the end zone and it stops at like the eight, that's a pretty big difference of not being able to judge the ball amber. I'm not trying to be ignorant here, but whatever, I'm still gonna ask the question, why is it so hard to find a kick returner that can actually do well? Like the Cowboys? This has been an area where the

Cowboys have been struggling for several years. Why is it so complicated to find someone that can freaking make it work? And I'm being serious, I don't understand. It's especially frustrating because kick returns are almost obsolete, Like they don't they're not really a big factor in the modern NFL. So the fact that you can't figure out how to make it work better than they have, it's it's unbelievable. And I don't know not to jump in on ag, but yes,

I would give the job to Cedric Wilson. I love Tony Pollard, but I mean you're talking about like dozens and dozens of yards of field position that you've compromised. It gets lost because last week was such a dumpster fire. But Cedric made such a great play on that one punt that bounced and he snatched it right off the bounce. He got six yards and got out of bounds, Like

that's the epitome of hidden yardage. As soon as he made that play, I was like, give him the kick returner job, like, I trust his hands, I trust him to make it work. Like Cedric Wilson would be a okay with me. Yeah, that's a various dew point. I thought the same thing during the game, that that was a good that's understanding and having awareness on special teams as a return, which I don't know that they necessarily have with po He did the same thing later, but

then he kind of went backwards. Yeah, you know, Dave makes a good point. Now we gotta make picks here, but they makes a good point about usually the kick return is a part of the game that's been lost. I wonder after the Patriots game of what happened last year and seeing all the kickoffs and Tony Poler was a big part of that that maybe teams aren't deciding, you know what, let's do that pooch kick that goes to the five yard line or whatever, and let's try

to pen them down there. Hey, you can you know, maybe Poler doesn't make the right decision be they can have a block in the back. There's forty percent of all kickoff returns have blocks in the back, and so you could be starting at the seven or eight yard line. So I think the teams are maybe going and purposely doing that, not just giving Dak the ball to twenty five. Let's kick this thing up. We don't think Pauler will go to the house. We think there's a better shot

they'll start inside their ten. And that's happening. And this will be the week when Tony Poler takes it to the house bad. It'll be how it goes. Hey, Rico Dowlind, I like Cedric Wilson, but what about Rico Dabble. It's a running back. He's a big you know, he's kind of a thick guy. I mean, i'd like to see him. I'd like to see running backs in that because they have the vision for the holes and stuff like that. But somebody, I think it's time to make a change.

That I really do. All right, let's going to get a some picks here before we end the show. And we're gonna start with you today. Tell us what's going to happen is game final score? Well, if the Cowboys were playing another opponent, I would pick the other opponent because the Cowboys don't deserve my trust right now and in my faith, in my happiness. But because it is the Giants, I don't the Giants that even even worse. So I think the Cowboys do find a way to win.

I do think that their numbers statistically, as far as the passing game is not gonna look as good as we've been seeing in the past few games. I think that the Cowboys, regardless of the old line issues, I think the running game is gonna be able to get kick in this time and get going. So Zeke, I do see him having a better game in the Cowboys. It's just gonna come down to which team scores the

most points. It's gonna be a game between offense, which offense can score the most and that's for sure in my mind right now, can be the Cowboys. And final score. I think it might be like twenty fourteen, something like, all right, Dave, the Giants are terrible, but like we're not talking about you know, they're not that I don't think they're like oh and sixteen terrible, Like they're not like a wheel's off dumpster fire. I think there are

respect respectable kind of terrible. They've I mean they've been in every game that they've played. You know, the forty nine ers blew them out on the scoreboard, but that game was close until midway through the you know, early fourth quarter, midway through the third. So I just I expect to hate this game. I expect this to be a very fresh I mean, the Cowboys are going to continue to be sloppy in my opinion, until they get

some of these injuries taken care of. Um. But the Giants, I mean, the Giants offense can't keep up with them. I don't think that's not realistic. But I see, you know, I see Dad getting sacked a couple times, installing some drives. Maybe they have to settle for some field goals that they don't want to. So I think it's gonna be frustrating. But I'm thinking like a thirty and thirty to twenty one win that just nobody feels happy about. All right, No,

I disagree with that. With both those picks, I think the Cowboys will will blow them out. I think my prediction is that I'll get three text messages from people that say, why can't they just do this every game, which their answer is that the Giants aren't on the schedule every week. I don't. I think the offense is clicking to the point where they are going to be

too strong for the Giants to keep up with. Defensively, of course, offense will be trying it'll make the Cowboys defense look as good as it's been, which isn't really that hard to do, you know. I just think the Cowboys win this one handily. I think they win by twenty one. I'm gonna say thirty four thirteen, all right. I actually I'm a little torn on this game, just because the more I think about it, the more i'm the more I think that this Giant's defense is a

little bit better than everybody's given them credit for. I think, and I do think the way that the style of play off way that they will try to play the Cowboys will make it to where the Cowboys don't have an opportunity to just go all in. I don't think, you know, if Cowboys are in a closer game, they're probably not putting up all the yards and the points that they've put up in these other weeks either, and so I think it's going to be a game that's

more similar to what we saw the Week one. I do think the Cowboys win, though, and I think the Cowboys are the better team, so I think they'll get some I think they'll get more point production than what they got against the Rams, but I still think it'll be a relatively lower scoring game compared to the games that they've played in weeks two, three, and four. I think the Cowboys get the win, but I think it

is a twenty four to sixteen win. That is that's actually pretty non eventful, if that's a good way to put it. After you've been through all these other weeks of these big, high flying plays. I think it's gonna feel more like that Week one game where it just kind of plots along. Cowboys will do some things well, they'll do some things not so well. The Giants will play a little bit better offensively than they've played in the past because this Cowboys defense will give them opportunities

to do that. And again, I think Cowboys went twenty four sixteen. All right, we appreciate you join us. We're back on Monday, we'll tell you what went right and what went wrong to them for Nick Eatn, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia. I am Derek Eagles and this has been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. Hook Them. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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